strategy

[astral cosmos]

I have only those left for EX 7 and 8

[smoky halo]

borrow mlynar

[timid nacelle]

how do you even make her do anything even the slow seems useless

[astral cosmos]

she did something in some stages

I'm mainly using her for her advantageous range allowing her to reach tuning nodes a normal lord couldn't reach

[timid nacelle]

we have other bad ops no ?

[astral cosmos]

we do

I just don't have them raised

[timid nacelle]

sideroca

[astral cosmos]

god she sucks

[nova wing]

Oh my bad. I thought it was the current event

[astral cosmos]

it is the current event

[timid nacelle]

u think u can adjust the clears at ex-1/2/3 to get some of the uh "better" bad ops to be at ex-7/8

[astral cosmos]

they shrimply had to make EX 7 abominably hard and EX 8 a cakewalk

[nova wing]

Here's my squad for ex7

[timid nacelle]

he is doing a "tower run"

[smoky halo]

it is current event

do u know what a tower is?

[timid nacelle]

basically usin a squad that revolves around 1 unit

for all the stages

[astral cosmos]

I've already optimised 1~6

[timid nacelle]

and as his name suggests he plays bad units niche

[astral cosmos]

not exactly

but ye

[halcyon adder]

I refuse to believe there's no more badknights units

[timid nacelle]

and bro picked frostleaf for the tower

[smoky halo]

he doesnt have them raised

[timid nacelle]

so you can imagine the pain

[smoky halo]

or theyre 6stars

[timid nacelle]

[nova wing]

Ah I can't help much..

[smoky halo]

blud is basically playing 5star only

but the bad 5stars

[astral cosmos]

4/5 only

[timid nacelle]

ouch

[timid nacelle]

that's just 5*s

[astral cosmos]

picking 3* and such would be too cheesy

[smoky halo]

well ya technically u can use lower rarity in 5star only clears

at least thats how it works for arkrec

[timid nacelle]

[timid nacelle]

?

the what

[smoky halo]

~~well ya 3stars are just too good ~~

[smoky halo]

you can

in arkrec

[timid nacelle]

kroos crits doin more dps than your greythroat

isn't she considered bad or something

[timid nacelle]

weird ass site

[halcyon adder]

Heidi not a badknights unit 😭

[astral cosmos]

i love heidi

(she's forgottenknights)

[timid nacelle]

also proviso in bad knights

girl is S+

[astral cosmos]

she's also forgottenknights

[timid nacelle]

in base

[astral cosmos]

e2 lv1 for base, never in gameplay

[timid nacelle]

can't be forgotten

[astral cosmos]

[timid nacelle]

[astral cosmos]

AIACOAGYOFAYOCSYOCUOSVUOCEYOGOECYOH3HUPEHOUG9SGOYJQO'MD'FLBIGUZHUPAJIBijijz

ALMOSTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

i swear to god i hate this stage

[timid nacelle]

oh ye don't you use sora

[astral cosmos]

don't have her raised

[timid nacelle]

[high kettle]

Whoops

My borrowed thorns couldnt finish boss cause distracted by other mobs cuz my other ops are ass

[foggy grove]

can't you just typhon or something

[glass monolith]

Bro forgot to drop pillar on cat

[high kettle]

i dont have typhon

[foggy grove]

i mean borrow her since she is basically thorns 2.0 but eh you can just revise your strat

[high kettle]

my borrow is thorns

is typhon better?

[foggy grove]

yes?

[high kettle]

where do i place her

[astral cosmos]

I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel to find the remnants of fucking sanity i have left

[solemn gust]

Thank you goldenglow

[thin nova]

I remember struggling with that stage

Ah the memories

[solemn gust]

I impressively passed the first time, almost all my operators were level 1 xd

[thin nova]

Virtuosa gg moment

When i did it the only 6 star i had was skadi 💀

[solemn gust]

My healers performed miracles because there came a time when my operators almost took a hit kill

[astral cosmos]

FUCKING FINALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

i'm never doing this stage ever again.

[tired grail]

Le fishe au chocolat

[thin nova]

Challengemode clear when

[astral cosmos]

CM can go fuck itself

I can't believe I needed to go this far just for a regular stage
bullshit

[astral cosmos]

now EX 8 with what's left

I have no defenders and no aoe I think I played myself

[spark sinew]

||borrow yato, do yato solo||

[merry narwhal]

you have Roberta 🥹

[astral cosmos]

[merry narwhal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879667304718282805/1239612729858195526/BlueStacks_App_Player_4_2024-05-13_18-15-58.mp4?ex=66438ed1&is=66423d51&hm=636d0fea175a014fe169a25d28e0b3e530eb8af4b7a2172bf8162c66feead181&

the elites in this event are no match for the event mechanic

[astral cosmos]

oh god yeah I think I'm fucked

this is going to take a while to figure out

LMAO THE ODDS

[glass monolith]

I find it funny they made stupid direction based shield
And then that shit just don't block DoTs

[astral cosmos]

WK teleported spuria and beehunter exactly where they were standing

[astral cosmos]

EX 8 is about to be an rng fest

[thin nova]

for a boss named WK he sure does fumble alot

[crimson wolf]

JT 8-3 really kicking my ass, can't keep my units alive through the first firestorm lmao.

[timid nacelle]

the trick is to just retreat durin Firestorm

and use helidrop things on uh

the dogs

[spark sinew]

walter tanks firestorm
if you have a free sup slot, you can NG it

[dapper hedge]

Logos s3 ez

[timid nacelle]

can also do the ng does s3 so firestorm doesn't deal dmg bit ig ye

[crimson wolf]

Yeah been doing that, I just end up with nothing to deal with the boss xP

[timid nacelle]

saria or something

she just tanks the boss till the end of time

[crimson wolf]

Don't have Saria :c

[timid nacelle]

defender + medic ?

actually what are you usin

[crimson wolf]

Been using Viv, who survives decently, it's just the storm that wipes everything, need something tanky for the second part

[timid nacelle]

well the key in jt-8-3 is patience

tankin talu at the last blue box she's in with defender+ medic and just killin her after dealing with everything else then dropping frds for the rest of the dogs which's like 4 dogs per storm ?

[spark sinew]

vivi actually seems good here
are you using her to tank storm?

you only really need to cover 2/3 tiles

so vivi can tank one of them

[timid nacelle]

pe but your healing sources must be strong and not in storm's path

[soft crystal]

Need to use vivi s3 during storm

[crimson wolf]

So close, one of those damn spearman made it through so no 3* x.x

[spice mortar]

Any advice for this stage

[radiant dune]

I borrowed a mizuki and he really helped kill the lil shits

[glass monolith]

Step 1. La Pluma.
Step 2. Make sure your device is not on flammable surface

[spice mortar]

Would blaze work as aoe

Dont have la pluma

[glass monolith]

My personal preference at reinforced pillars. Pillar above chalter will break freeing 1 more ranged spot later

[radiant dune]

Blaze can only attack 3 enemies at a time, not true aoe like reaper guards

[spice mortar]

Ah

[spice mortar]

Thorns pointed up?

[glass monolith]

Blaze S2 can be used to hold pillars on right or to caught leaks in front of left box

[spice mortar]

Also do the pillars on the ground cover ranged tiles

[glass monolith]

There is like 15 enemies or so which will come directly into those 2 pillars. If both pillars fall it will be next to impossible to hold with melee units because wind and snipers which nuke operators in wind

[spark sinew]

use exec alter 🏃‍♂️

or like humus or whatever

[spice mortar]

Thoughts on lineup

[glass monolith]

There is also Ifrit strat or something but like. My playstile is focused around other geometrical shapes

[spark sinew]

overkill

also exec s3 is good but like

not auto skill

[spice mortar]

Id have to @ angle

[spark sinew]

oh that's why his level is shit

do you have me added

[spice mortar]

Nop

I sent a request though

[radiant dune]

In theory wouldn’t warfarin talent be great in that stage, so many lil things to kill for sp

[spark sinew]

in practice for the hardest part

you have very limited tiles

[glass monolith]

Not sure if Typhon is play on that map. Because this shit exists and i don't know how it will interact with it

[spark sinew]

(or ig you could manually drop a nuker for the guys)

[spice mortar]

Fuck those guys

That stage in is is annoying asf

[radiant dune]

Typhon prios the clones from what I’ve experienced

[spark sinew]

so you basically have those tiles only

i think i saw the middle strat, where you just hold the middle and use a little more of ranged tiles

but it's got issues as well

[radiant dune]

Yeah when I did this I used the middle tiles, mainly holding at the top left choke

Ngl only cleared cuz overleveled, didn’t realize the sandstorm could go up and down lol

[spice mortar]

Oh thats annoying

[spark sinew]

so plan around 1 healer (or 0) and 1 dps (or 2)

[spice mortar]

Eyjaberry can probably solo heal right

[spark sinew]

do you have like surtr or helidrops

[spice mortar]

With mud too

[spice mortar]

Ive got vivi 😄

[spark sinew]

so no

[spice mortar]

But no not really

[radiant dune]

Yato carried my ass for killing the stealth sniper

[spice mortar]

Swalter

Xd

[spark sinew]

care to show the rest of the roster

[spark sinew]

ethan is pgood

[radiant dune]

How much health do the tumors have

[spark sinew]

i can see swire for dropping on top with s3 but i didn't try

[radiant dune]

Cuz s1 could actually be a play if they’re squishy enough

[spice mortar]

I can give it a shot tbh

[spark sinew]

also ros> typhon probably

[deep frigate]

Anti Ethan club here

[spice mortar]

Yeah, which skill though? They all seem kinda good here

S3 probably safest option

But s2 big aoe

[spark sinew]

is your m9
i'm honestly not sure it's anni so maybe s1 works

[spice mortar]

Nope sl7 all

[spark sinew]

do s1, swap later if not good ig

would sl7 exec be fine

[radiant dune]

Ngl e2 poncirus is kinda wild, never seen someone build her before

[spark sinew]

oh actually

[spice mortar]

Ponc ❤️

[spark sinew]

maybe chongyue is the play

[merry narwhal]

no ponci slander allowed

[radiant dune]

I got s3m3 chongus if u need

[spice mortar]

Ill try if this doesnt work

Ive got angle so nw

[spark sinew]

exec s1 added

take your pick

defective unit with no mod

[spice mortar]

Ty

[spark sinew]

or defective unit with sl7

[merry narwhal]

are you doing OD anni?

[spice mortar]

Placement ok? Virt above ros later, feel like shell help

[merry narwhal]

Ros can sometimes hit one of the snipers with her splash damage which can cause a leak if you don't have skills up

a spreadshooter is really optimal on that tile

[spice mortar]

I dont have one

[merry narwhal]

i'd put Exec2 one tile above

and put on his original tile a 4 block defender if you have one

[spice mortar]

Ive got cuora

[merry narwhal]

definitely works

[cunning river]

How are you supposed to do EX3 CM?

[spark sinew]

winning works 🫡
there are only 2 tiles to hold

easy way is to charge devices with like texas

[radiant dune]

Make sure to use the orb

[spark sinew]

so you immediately change the music

then everyone just kinda dies

[cunning river]

Yeah but everywhere on the map gets hit by the mobs when they're buffed

[spark sinew]

that's why you change the music

[cunning river]

Yeah but you can't do that

Texas gets instakilled

[spark sinew]

also not everywhere (my texas is not maxed)

[cunning river]

Surtr as well

[radiant dune]

I think I used horn and she helped out a ton

[spark sinew]

eh she lasts a long time

[cunning river]

Not really though

She gets OTKd

[spark sinew]

ok you have like

all the time in the world

[quick pecan]

i will always slander her

she sucks

[spark sinew]

use yato s3 to proc the bottom safely if you want

[cunning river]

This is challenge mode, also

[spark sinew]

or anything with 3 tile range

ok sure, lemme boot the challenge this is also my trust farm so this is sl6 e2 1 vivi

[cunning river]

So even just sitting down and trying to hold the lane ends awfully cause those mobs hit incredibly hard

[radiant dune]

I just verified u can beat the stage with horn a healer and yato

[spark sinew]

???

doesn't look like instakill to me

[cunning river]

Yeah that doesn't happen for me

Might be cause the buffs went up just at that moment

[spark sinew]

just spam aspect of annihilation

texalter also isn't oneshot unless you deploy het into charged enemies

[cunning river]

Yeah she gets instakilled when the buff is on

[spark sinew]

but yeah she's pbad on cm

duh

you can probably exalter yato it

or maybe solo yato

[spark sinew]

with key being this

[cunning river]

But also as soon as the buff goes up I can no longer hold that lane

[spark sinew]

how so

no one hits left side

[cunning river]

Cause everything dies?

And they're ranged?

[spark sinew]

i literally send you screenshots

[spark sinew]

nothing dies, they don't have the range

[cunning river]

I have no idea what you're talking about

They start going to the gate pretty early on

So you have to hold that lane

And they just hit too hard

[radiant dune]

Do u have horn or yato by any chance

[cunning river]

Nope

[spark sinew]

it's 15/27 and they didn't

[radiant dune]

Do u have texalter

[cunning river]

I resent how more and more the game wants you to have specific high rarity units

[spark sinew]

exec procs the devices by himself by thaat time

not really, anything works here

[radiant dune]

I’m just tryna give u like a very specific easy clear rn, you don’t need em

[cunning river]

Yes, but she's not doing great

[radiant dune]

If u gimme like 5 min I’ll show ya somethin

[cunning river]

Can get to one of the towers, but by the second the buff is already up

[spark sinew]

too bad arkrec is dead i'm sure someone made exalter solo/duo

[spice mortar]

No issues

[cunning river]

That's not true though?

[spark sinew]

i literally

played the stage

[cunning river]

Unless you're saying that Executor alter kills them that fast

[spark sinew]

no one went to the exit

[cunning river]

??????

[spark sinew]

obviously, he holds left side easily

[cunning river]

What are you talking about? I feel we're talking past each other

They do head towards the exit

[spark sinew]

but also you have 6/8 tiles here

to deploy whatever you want

[cunning river]

Yeah and everything there gets killed

[spark sinew]

well left side you can kill because you have 6 tiles to deploy shit
right side doesn't go to the exit

[spark sinew]

show me here

where are they getting killed

[cunning river]

I put Skalter, Thorns and Saria there

They all get killed really quickly

[merry narwhal]

chat's moving too fast. Someone asked earlier and the setup I remembered really is the best

[spark sinew]

joke of a map

[merry narwhal]

true AoE is king for that anni

[spark sinew]

where

[cunning river]

On those six tiles

[spark sinew]

are you getting killed by melees?

put saria on s3 and use something with aoe

[cunning river]

I think so?

[spark sinew]

i thought you were complaining about rangeds, my bad

[spark sinew]

but idt you can exec solo

[cunning river]

See, I don't have Executor

[spark sinew]

mlynar qb whatever else

any burst

[cunning river]

Or Mlynar

[spark sinew]

eyja probably works

[cunning river]

Or Qb

[spark sinew]

i mean literally every burst unit clears it, but it's hard to guess wtf you have

[north jungle]

Is it worth using all supporters as the ranged units for a team to make use of Suzuran's talents? Now that I have almost every top tier one I'm considering it but dunno if it works well

[spark sinew]

supporters either don't really care about sp that much, they suck or both

but generally they already have decent sp costs

for suzu it's better to either pair her with some damage to burst tanky enemies, or to use her to slow enemies down and whittle them with basic attacks/weak skills

trying passenger

inb4 "i don't have pass"

ok i think yato pass duo clear

[cunning river]

I have Passenger but unraised

God this is so unreliable

[spark sinew]

could've posted your roster 10 times over

[cunning river]

On trial I could do it, but now doing the same thing it fails

God this sucks

[spark sinew]

it's just the matter of knowing the mechanics

[cunning river]

I think my Krooster is still up, but last time I checked I couldn't access it/find it

[spark sinew]

or in this case, just using the device and saving burst for melee waves

[north jungle]

True, I guess Fragile is wasted on Virtuosa's effect? I suddenly got her, Gnosis, and am strongly considering picking up bard Skadi so swimming in new strong supporters all of a sudden haha

[spark sinew]

how close are you to 300 pulls

[latent halo]

Hi

[cunning river]

Incredibly

[north jungle]

Just reached 300! Picking between skadi and spectre alter

[spark sinew]

i feel like with Civilight eterna skadi lost some of her edge

[latent halo]

Is Texas available

Take texas

[spark sinew]

outside of like super lazy clears

[north jungle]

I already have Texas with a pot upgrade 🙂

[spark sinew]

i would probably go spalter

[latent halo]

Take skadi

[north jungle]

What's Civilight eterna?

[spark sinew]

6* bard

[latent halo]

Spec usage is like 0

[spark sinew]

IS brainrot smh

[latent halo]

?

Can u find specter usage then

[spark sinew]

you have eyja and chalter, is that not enough

[spark sinew]

i assume you have a timeframe in mind so i can't try and say cc12

[latent halo]

Better take Texas pot

Or

[cunning river]

Haven't tested them yet

[latent halo]

Take skadi

Specter is like the worst choice there

[cunning river]

But with how quick they come Chalter might be too expensive

[solemn gust]

First day of account

[latent halo]

Nice start ig

[spark sinew]

do dots ignore shields

[merry narwhal]

start like this, then place Horn/Firewhistle one tile to the left of Ethan and you're done

yes they do

[spark sinew]

that's so dumb...

[glass monolith]

Cope drop

[spark sinew]

use vangs

you have flagpipe...

[merry narwhal]

put down Ethan again after he died but it's not necessary, any decent marksman will solo that lane

[cunning river]

I'm already using Elysium

It's barely enough

[merry narwhal]

you can bring gravel to kill the top device and use Ethan for the one on the bottom if you don't have built BP

[cunning river]

I can't do that though, cause once the buff goes up anything I put near those devices gets instakilled

Even with Eyjalter S3 on

[merry narwhal]

your task is to flip both devices ASAP

after that you just keep it that way and it's super easy

ofc you can also use execalter and flip the top device with gravel

Ethan flips bottom

the enemies at the lower right idle forever, so any Fortress will destroy them but there are other options too

[cunning river]

From experience with the Jessica event Ethan's dodge isn't that reliable

[merry narwhal]

the dodge doesn't matter

you run S1 and he's only deployed to flip the device, then you retreat him

[cunning river]

Okay, Red gets instakilled with buff the turned off

[merry narwhal]

even level 1 is enough for that task

[cunning river]

Nice to know that was a waste of time

[spark sinew]

what are you using red for...

[cunning river]

To fliip the device on

[spark sinew]

as i said before, god gave you this

[merry narwhal]

you don't even need that device

[cunning river]

Yeah that doesn't do enough fast enough

[spark sinew]

you don't actually care about the devices with your roster, you can just nuke waves with chalter

[merry narwhal]

can you show your roster

[cunning river]

Already did above

[latent halo]

Above

[cunning river]

And I'm wasting so much sanity, greeeeeeeeeat

[spark sinew]

event doesn't close tomorrow btw

go do non cm stages, you still have a week afaik?

[cunning river]

Why would I do that

[radiant dune]

Okay I got like a really cursed clear if u want but it works with only horn borrow

[pale orchid]

what stage is lancer stuck on?

[spark sinew]

what stage isn't

now i'm curious

do only dots ignore the shield

like can qb extra attack proc through the shield for example

[spice mortar]

I can test that if you want

[spark sinew]

on it

my last plans

[spice mortar]

Ah ok

[radiant dune]

I’m ass at this game but like, the stage is not too bad, can def not wait as long if u bring like any other op I just threw this shit at it

[spice mortar]

Ypu are right that is cursed

[spark sinew]

it does not

[spice mortar]

Rip

[spark sinew]

it seems like the shield blocks the "origin"

[radiant dune]

Silver ash is the only op I had in common with them lol

[spark sinew]

so that's why pass here won't ever activate it for example

but some dots don't have that "origin"

[cunning river]

Yeah I have no idea what the fuck to do

[spice mortar]

So fiametta wouldnt work either

[cunning river]

What skills am I using here

Tried and Fiammetta doesn't work, no

[spark sinew]

as long as she faces the shield, no

man the stage is so sad my qb s1 accidentally clears it, wtf

[radiant dune]

Wait I forgot about texalter that woulda been so much easier lmao

[merry narwhal]

Archetto S2 instead of BP. Gravel S2, W is S2 but bring Typhon too because W sucks and can't solo. Ethan is S1

[spice mortar]

How are you struggling

[cunning river]

Dunno watch the video

[cunning river]

Wait no, this wouldn't work though

Cause the shield is right in front of Ethan

[radiant dune]

Just wanna let u know that if there’s an enemy and the orb in something’s range then ops prioritize the orb, so if a massive wave of enemies come don’t place an orb otherwise ur ranged ops target the orb and do Jack shit

[cunning river]

I know that

[glass monolith]

So have this chat discovered deployable attack hole thingy or what?

[merry narwhal]

come again?

[cunning river]

How the fuck

Why?

[merry narwhal]

S1

[spice mortar]

Dot

[glass monolith]

Shield block attack. S1 DoT still being applied

[cunning river]

But you guys just said DoT still doesn't work?

[spice mortar]

When did anyone say this

[merry narwhal]

you don't have to comprehend, just copy

activate both devices + click one of them before the song starts and you can do what you want

enemies are super slow and useless

you can set up all of your fancy stuff afterwards

[spark sinew]

||tbh idt using dot is intended ||

sure makes it easier ig

[merry narwhal]

people said the same during IW

DoTs just have this property

[spark sinew]

i think the enemies are supposed to just zone you out

[spice mortar]

If their test team is so incompetent to not even try dots idk

[merry narwhal]

they have no source, they are a debuff, so they don't care about direction

[spark sinew]

that's why they don't spawncamp all your tiles

[merry narwhal]

yes exactly, this map has hidden banned tiles

[spark sinew]

and you can slowly but surely activate the devices with the aspect of annihilation

[cunning river]

Okay you were right about Chalter, but I still crumple by the end through the right gate

[spark sinew]

you can either do like Doom said and activate devices, or you can borrow yato s3 and kill them (start deploying early, you have bag + flags so dp is fine)

[spice mortar]

Literally silverash solos

[spark sinew]

either one should work

[cunning river]

Tried the same thing on challenge proper, immediately goes wrong

I fucking hate this tame

[merry narwhal]

I'm out of practice plans, but this is the opener (works on CM too)

set up borrowed Horn to the left of Ethan, facing right, and you're done

[cunning river]

Don't even have a Horn on my list

[merry narwhal]

then place down W and Typhon and whatnot

[spark sinew]

btw how's your anni

[merry narwhal]

you ahve all the time in the world if you just do the opener right

this event is dominated by ranged ops so abuse them

[spice mortar]

Cleared first try

[spark sinew]

this event is dominated by yato alter
nice

time to put good units in sup

[spice mortar]

Xd

[cunning river]

I hate it

[merry narwhal]

bro, you're not listening at all

[cunning river]

I did exactly what you told me

[merry narwhal]

no you didn't

[cunning river]

You said as long as I got the opening right

And even trying to do the opening doesn't work out

[merry narwhal]

the bar at the top of the screen is yellow

[spice mortar]

Is my eyesight bad or does that horn look like thorns

[merry narwhal]

which means you didn't activate the devices

[cunning river]

Yes

Cause both died before they could get them up

[spark sinew]

how did you damage top device at all

[spice mortar]

Texalt i think he used

[cunning river]

Deployment of Gravel

Ethan on the lower one

Like you told me

[merry narwhal]

that's correct, you need a cheap unit before doing that and i suggested Archetto

who you have built

[cunning river]

What?

I think I missed that

But how would Archetto change anything here?

[merry narwhal]

check the video again

place her where I placed BluePoison

and let her kill the first few enemies

then immediately set up Gravel and Ethan

you have to be fast

if you deploy all these expensive units first you run out of time before the song starts

[spice mortar]

Scientist trying to get the chimp to place the cube in the square hole vibes

[cunning river]

No need to be rude

[spice mortar]

No there isnt

[cunning river]

Had to deploy Texalter to even kill that enemy, and it still wasn't enough

[merry narwhal]

you almost got it actually

[cunning river]

No?

Ethan got nuked out of existence

[merry narwhal]

did you deploy him second?

you should have enough time

[spark sinew]

just borrow yato s3

[cunning river]

And enemies are already coming by that lane

Look at my DP

I don't have time

[spark sinew]

deploy yato there and you're done

[merry narwhal]

you already lost at this point

[spark sinew]

also for the love of god just use bagpipe

[cunning river]

What's Bagpipe going to change here

[spark sinew]

mind you yato s3 also just kills all those enemies early on

she only fails on the second wave

[spark sinew]

give you dp to deploy yato

[cunning river]

Okay Ethan/Gravel isn't working

[latent halo]

W sa Texas and fia is enough for this stage no ?

[merry narwhal]

i can't find archetto to record it

[cunning river]

The issue is RNG not screwing up your opening

Cause that's the only reason I can imagine that trying the same steps can give out different results

[spark sinew]

what rng

[merry narwhal]

you can use Yato S2 instead of Gravel t oo

[spark sinew]

||or just use s3 yato||

[cunning river]

Straight up no fucking idea

I feel like borrwing Yato right now would be giving up

[nova wing]

Yato S3. Texalter s3. Horn. GG

[merry narwhal]

try again tomorrow with more practice plans

[nova wing]

Get flagpipes. Or myrtle/Ely + texas S2M3 for quick early dp

[echo herald]

[glass monolith]

Flagpipes are dead. Long live Agent streamline.

[nova wing]

You don't need chen alter for this map. You just need fast redeploy and long range/ global range.

[nova wing]

That would work too if you have ines. (and if she survives from being nuked

[cunning river]

Chalter is the one that's worked out the best for me

[wide sail]

horn smokes everything on this map

[cunning river]

Also don't have Ines

[nova wing]

Do you have any of these 4?

[cunning river]

Only Texas and she kinda sucks for this

Cause she's incredibly squishy

[nova wing]

Texas S3 could work but she can only land when 3 or lesser casters are there

[crimson wolf]

Oh that mission... Mlynar kind of just made holding left side easy and Texalter cleared the stuff on the right side.

[nova wing]

So yato S3 helps alot too

[cunning river]

Yeah that's the issue, there's always more than three casters everywhere

Also don't have Mlynar

Feel like my roster has been completely powercrept and it fucking sucks

[crimson wolf]

Discount Mlynar? (SilverAsh?)

[nova wing]

I don't have chen alter, but I used eyja s2

[wide sail]

u can probably clear this with horn and 4* only

[cunning river]

Fucking finally

[nova wing]

There you go.

The orb also helps abit. Just spam at thorns

[glass monolith]

Why not Thorns on right side after left side is dealt with and music changed to cringe

[cunning river]

Didn't think of that and also wasn't needed

[glass monolith]

When we get fucked by S stages? in 0.5 hour or 24.5 hours?

[radiant dune]

24.5

[summer copper]

texalter solo right side lol

[pale orchid]

i thought you didnt want to borrow frd

🗿

[cunning river]

I didn't though

[cunning river]

Okay I need help with EX 7 now

Upper lane holder get stunned every time

[cyan gorge]

Try to change music to orange early

[nova wing]

You'd need double aoe if you want to clear the mob fast

And pay attention to the enemies head color

They'd tell you which color buffs them

Spam the orb. It also helps

[cunning river]

I'm trying but there's constantly one of those that drains the devices aroun

And helidropping them isn't working

[summer copper]

what ops u got again?

[cunning river]

These

There seems to be nothing I can do

This is insane

[summer copper]

um

I got a method that does texalter+mlynar+typhon

maybe u can optimise it

[cunning river]

Sure I got nothing else

[summer copper]

https://youtu.be/wEgaRWFjwiw

[cunning river]

Don't have any of those modules

[summer copper]

u can try optimise it

its just a method

[cunning river]

I don't see how

What the fuck is this stage

I assume they want you to use the black holes, but they also give you zero time to do that

[summer copper]

idk

I think u dont need texalter if you got a good enough shield in buttom tile

[rich rune]

Using the cosmic alignment of this traffic cone I stole and that cat, I have a solution.

Specialistknights.

[radiant dune]

just borrow yato alter s3, kinda just annihiliates half the stage

[rich rune]

Precisely.

[radiant dune]

that or horn, i'm still gonna advise that cuz she can just blitz the entire center of the stage

[cunning river]

I'll be 100% if the only solution is "have X units or get fucked" then we're getting into SN levels of shit design

Cause I have no fucking idea what they want me to do here

[radiant dune]

its not the only solution its mainly just idk what else u want people to tell ya

just because theres an easy way with X units doesn't mean ur fucked without em

[cunning river]

I've tried pretty much everything, what the fuck

Every guide I can find has Mlynar

So really feeling that "this is impossible without certain units"

And I'm not even at challenge

[radiant dune]

tbf a lot of guides are like that cuz it's efficient and reduces the amount of ops needed for people without certain 6 stars

[cunning river]

Yes, but with my roster I should have been able to figure something out at this point

[vivid rain]

mlynar isnt even essential

you are supposed to snipe the caster from behind with black hole

from there it's free since you can access tuners

[cunning river]

I don't what you're talking about

I am doing that with the black holes and devices are always off regardless

[vivid rain]

just time the sentry?

[scarlet mortar]

example
https://youtu.be/DslX15iUHmk

[dapper hedge]

Horn is rly good this event tbh

[north jungle]

Is NTR still meta, and if so with S2 or S3? How does she compared to Skadi Alter and Spectre Alter?

[vital arrow]

Eh shes not really that meta

Even on release

Her use case now is pretty much just s2

Also NTR spalter and skalter all have different uses idk how you would compare them

[north jungle]

Well just the fact that they're all ranked S+ on some tier lists and I have to choose between them from rolling 300 times on the current banner

[vital arrow]

Tierlists are ass without context

Also I wouldnt consider any of them S+

Theyre A at best

Have you rolled 300 or are you considering rolling 300

[north jungle]

I have 300

have texas already

[vital arrow]

If you want a helidrop duelist pick NTR
If you like afk support then pick skalter
If you want a generalist or you wanna play AH, pick spalter

[north jungle]

From what I recall Skadi alter doesn't count as an AH, but still buffs it and would want to be included in an AH team, right?

[vital arrow]

No

Shes just a normal afk support

She doesnt need AH

Unless you really value like extra 6% atk for her

[north jungle]

I recall 2 years ago when I started and relied on Ling, she was considered good with her, and NTR had S2 to not take up deployment slot, although almost all supports put her on S3. Now though I have almost all the top units

[vital arrow]

Yes because skalter can heal summons

Just pick whoever you like more

Also NTR S3 is like useless nowadays

[north jungle]

yeah figures

[vital arrow]

She only deals true damage only if the enemy is blocked by the summon or herself

[north jungle]

There's no CN bard to powercreep skadi at her job yet right? Seems bigger gap here compared to other classes

[ornate pond]

if you have most top units i lowkey would just go for spalter

[vital arrow]

And they dont have the stats to block said enemies

[ornate pond]

theres CE, but shes not exactly powercreeping skadi

[vital arrow]

Civilight eterna

Shes a sidegrade

Also free welfare

[north jungle]

Ah right, does she also heal unhealables like summon/mudrock?

[ornate pond]

all bards do

[somber stone]

All passive healing does

[vital arrow]

Any non green number heal can heal enmities or summons

[north jungle]

Ah thanks, didn't know she was a Bard

Guess probably specalter then, thanks

[ornate pond]

idk why you pulled 300 on virt when the next 7 months is all stacked

[vital arrow]

Maybe theyre a whale

[smoky halo]

nothing cant fix

[west path]

Nah, I’d go for skalter

Spalter is useless w/o AH

[ornate pond]

???

AH is useless without spalter

you only need spalter to complete AH

since gladiia is already free

[vital arrow]

AH is pretty much just spalter and gladiia

[north jungle]

1. I got Pot 5 vivianna before finally pulling Virt on pull 250
2. The old featured limited units on the Shu/zuole banner was very unappealing for me since I have Ling already and don't care for Dusk or Chongyue

Although I don't know what's in future shops for 300, does it show on gamepress/other sites?

[vital arrow]

The others are just

Embellishments

[ornate pond]

theres walter banner for next spark

[neat skiff]

Civilight has 2 skills that are all about healing. Then her S2M3 gives 399 attack to all ops in range during skill activation.
Her S1 and S3 only boost regen and S3 gives health points. No other stat boost.
Skalter S3M3 gives 460 attack, S2M3 gives 251 attack and defense.

[west path]

I don’t think so, AH can do just fine without spalter. Meanwhile, Skalter can go with a wide range of squad and improve the power of some certain ops significantly

[vital arrow]

AH is defective without spalter

Spalter is their body

[ornate pond]

lmao

[vital arrow]

And +0.5sp/s

Her and gladiia are the backbone of AH

[modern plover]

AH is not AH without gladiia mod3
Spalter can work alone just fine with modx lv3

[vital arrow]

Spalter with modx lv2 and s2m3 works alone anyways

Please dont cope skadi as AH's body

She has terrible S3 cycle

Especially without spalter

[vital arrow]

Idk why this proves anything

[west path]

I play AH too and don’t use spalter that much

[vital arrow]

Ah yes AH

With texalt

And mlynar

[ornate pond]

then your not playing AH

[vital arrow]

And chalter

And yato

The AH members are just embellishments

[west path]

That squad still has AH body tho

[neat skiff]

At least Andreana is there...

[vital arrow]

I can replace any of them with any other operator

And it wont change a thing

Because theyre just a body

If youre running pure AH then thats another thing

[ornate pond]

try doing any hard maps with just and,glad,guard specter and skadi

spalter as a core is what makes these solo AH clears possible

outside of that its just really mediocre

[west path]

If you run pure AH, skalter isn’t relevant tho

[vital arrow]

Shes not

Idk why skalter is here in the first place

[ornate pond]

skalter isnt even AH

[neat skiff]

That's what they just said...

[west path]

She’s not AH…… but the game still count her as one 🐧

[neat skiff]

?

Andreana is absolutely abyssal hunter.

[west path]

I don’t think other AHs know who she is

[ornate pond]

what? im responding to this, of course skalter isnt relevant to pure AH because shes not even classified as AH nor does her kit directly tie into AH like the others

[marble nebula]

andreana aspd good is errrr

decent?

[vital arrow]

The other AH doesnt know she is one because shes an illegal experiment by iberia trying to make their own AH

[marble nebula]

does errr

andreana has

impact on abysfartsquad

[vital arrow]

20 aspd

[neat skiff]

Yes.

[vital arrow]

Which if youre running pure AH

Pretty good

[neat skiff]

She gives them 20 aspd and she gets all their buffs.

[vocal leaf]

imagine when ulpi join AH squad

[neat skiff]

Probably what earthshaker is going to be since crusher was basically dead on arrival.

[vocal leaf]

hoederer is good tho

[tidal sedge]

Honestly that would be a shame since crusher statline would be funny with AH buffs

[somber stone]

30% dr anyway

[neat skiff]

Hoederer is a 6 star that basically pulled a Mountain.

[tidal sedge]

Max hp based regen, big damage reduction

[vital arrow]

Except hes not nearly as good as mountain

[neat skiff]

Hoed and Mount do very different things.

[vital arrow]

They do

But mountain is generally more applicable and is regarded more highly upon release

[scarlet fulcrum]

S2 has small gain iirc

[neat skiff]

Mountain on release was... something.

On paper he looked pretty bad, then you get into "ew a furry" with one side being "I hope he isn't meta because furries are gross" and the other being "I hope he is meta because your 12 waifu team will be ruined and I want salt".

It's a shame to, furryknights players haven't gotten a new member in over 2 years.

Lee was the newest Jan 2022 for CN or Sep 2022 for global.

[scarlet fulcrum]

trc not counted ig?

[neat skiff]

trc?

[vital arrow]

Terra research commission

[scarlet fulcrum]

Flinger collab

[neat skiff]

Haha, funny beastiality joke.

[vocal leaf]

they do but it’s better to use him against bosses or elite enemies

[vocal leaf]

you mean hoed s2? it can be very nice in IS with cc or spd relics, today i found out he’s very good stalling the knight in d15

[scarlet fulcrum]

sure

[turbid badge]

Oh exalted mark is global

Lol

I just murked a add

It went past my exalter lane but got hit once

[smoky laurel]

zt ex 8 is impossible with this, gg, i give up

unless anyone has any other ideas

[foggy grove]

i haven't touched ex
is it that bad lol

[glass monolith]

Nah he just being filtered by boss. Just like i was

[timid nacelle]

uh tried usin the ball when the thing that shoots is alligned with the boss ?

[rancid grotto]

Look for Excuteralter guide

[timid nacelle]

it's quite easy that way

[scarlet fulcrum]

Balls machine carry hard on there, the annoying enemies doesnt even moving

[timid nacelle]

u only need dps to kill the trash mobs basically

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats it

[rancid grotto]

Problem is only stupid teleport

[scarlet fulcrum]

I think with stacked roster+mlynar even easier to disrespect taunt

[cosmic thicket]

yato alter solos by herself (but probably needs max level and pots) but you have 11 other operators that easily make up for that

[timid nacelle]

u don't need most of the slots
just to play two random units at the end

[smoky laurel]

yes and my other units got teleported on the other end of the map and died

i have no time for a setup cause then he tps to my units and kills them all

[cosmic thicket]

yeah, also i have 0 idea what you need mudrock penance AND thorns for

[timid nacelle]

uh who did you deploy last ?

[smoky laurel]

defense cause others just die

[cosmic thicket]

the TP is linked to the boss getting damaged

[smoky laurel]

my units tend to die when they stub their toe

[cosmic thicket]

iirc it's 50% thresholds? don't remember

[smoky laurel]

he tps himself too

[cosmic thicket]

yeah and

[timid nacelle]

U have 2 medics and skalter

how r u dyin

the hell

[smoky laurel]

and he tps so close to my units he kills them

[cosmic thicket]

mudrock and penance also can't be healed with medics...

[rancid grotto]

50% tp, first phase kill tp., another 50% tp

[smoky laurel]

because these 2 are getting chained, stunned and i have no place to do anything there

[smoky laurel]

but if i'd place mountain there for example, he'd die

[timid nacelle]

ely alone isn't enough to get your set up in time ?

I am confused

[smoky laurel]

no

lol

[timid nacelle]

how

[smoky laurel]

no mastery

that's how

[cosmic thicket]

never dealt with that part bc I bursted phase 1 with reedalt and chongyue but I'm pretty sure mlynar outranges phase 1
just make sure to deploy someone else to bait the teleport

[smoky laurel]

he's e1

[timid nacelle]

sl7 should be enough

[smoky laurel]

mlynar gets tpd out cause of taunt

[rancid grotto]

Also you need someone to take dmg at 2nd phase like healer tank or something

[cosmic thicket]

I'm also pretty sure you can just use yato alter to chip health

[smoky laurel]

so unless i get really lucky and he's gonna be replaced in range, the stage is over

[cosmic thicket]

retreat and redeploy
??

[smoky laurel]

then the boss tps to my units and kills them all anyway

[timid nacelle]

pretty sure you only need to use the ball thing on the boss to kill him

[cosmic thicket]

the boss is on a 10 min timer iirc

[smoky laurel]

if i won't kill the boss before he gets close to my units, the stage is over for me

[cosmic thicket]

you literally have yato alter s3 removing like what 5% of his HP every time?

[timid nacelle]

would like you to post a video of how you actually clear

[cosmic thicket]

• the ball exists

[timid nacelle]

so I can understand the problem

[cosmic thicket]

I feel like a part of it is static laneholder brainrot

[timid nacelle]

well ye u only need like

6 ops to clear + 2 for bait

4 free slots

and 6 is for afk comfort

[rancid grotto]

https://youtu.be/yF5BL3p45xk?si=HvJY4fM_ReY_yNVS
This guide is one of the best to teach you how Boss works

[smoky laurel]

so i need to kill the boss with 3 units? not possible with mine operators that are underleveled

[timid nacelle]

?

1 unit

[cosmic thicket]

???

[timid nacelle]

let the unit shoot the ball

when the thing is alligned with the boss

[smoky laurel]

there is no one that can kill the boss effectively by themselves

[timid nacelle]

kills him quite fast

[smoky laurel]

unless typhoon can target it

[timid nacelle]

?

[cosmic thicket]

????????

[timid nacelle]

dude do you read what am I sayin

[cosmic thicket]

also, the yato alter solo:

[timid nacelle]

use any sniper on the ball

[smoky laurel]

i used warfarin with exusiai, it kinda worked

[timid nacelle]

when the boss is alligned with the "phenomenon" that shoots

[cosmic thicket]

ok serious question

how much are you deploying yato alter and texas alter

[smoky laurel]

to destroy the chains and to bait the tp

[timid nacelle]

wdy need exu warf for when exu shootin the ball is already enough to kill the boss

[cosmic thicket]

lmao that's like barely enough

yato s3 and texas s2 can do massive chip to the boss

[smoky laurel]

i don't have dp or patience to deal with redeploying these 2 over and over

[cosmic thicket]

yes because you have two 36 DP bricks on your team

[timid nacelle]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dmg accumulated cap every 0.5s so rapid fire like uxe should have enough dmg for each balls

[timid nacelle]

go watch kyo guide

[smoky laurel]

because if i had anyone else, they would die

[timid nacelle]

pretty sure buddy uses blaze

[smoky laurel]

mudrock and penance are the only ones surviving all attacks

[cosmic thicket]

lol?

I literally brought neither of them

[timid nacelle]

what attacks

[smoky laurel]

i just said all

[cosmic thicket]

the problem is you're letting witch king phase 1 survive for too long

[smoky laurel]

everything

[scarlet fulcrum]

Phase2 atk global iirc

[timid nacelle]

it's like the boss deals high dmg or something

[smoky laurel]

cause it does

3 shots and my lumen is dead

2 and skadi alter dead

4 and penance is dead

[cosmic thicket]

which using the ball and bursting with texalter and yato alter helps immensely with

[timid nacelle]

if it takes more than 1 on a medic or a supporter then it's not high dmg

switch to an aoe medic

[cosmic thicket]

the attack interval is also slow af

[smoky laurel]

ptilopsis underleveled, she'll die even faster

[rancid grotto]

You need tank to take his shots like Saria or Mudrock

[timid nacelle]

[rancid grotto]

You don't need medic honestly

[timid nacelle]

dude u have all those e2s u aren't new

[scarlet fulcrum]

U probably forgor to destroy disarm thingy then ded

[cosmic thicket]

ok no you're probably intentionally refusing our advice im out

[timid nacelle]

ak bosses aren't threatening enough

[cosmic thicket]

we gave you several solutions but you're using lame excuses for every one

[timid nacelle]

just watch a guide at this rate

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its literally written there, if thing not destroyed the rip

[timid nacelle]

pretty sure you have replacements

anyways just put the ball in exu range when the "phenomenon" is alligned with the boss
and deploy exu like 30 secs into the game

[smoky laurel]

you also don't believe that my units are dying in seconds

[timid nacelle]

they can't be is why

unless your placement doesn't make any sense

also how is usin two enmity defenders a good idea

when you have 2 medics

[rancid grotto]

You just need to work on timing, when boss use tp

[timid nacelle]

use normal or healing defenders

that way they can synergise

ex7 is harder than 8

if u cleared that then it should be a piece of cake for you

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its based on hit count so unit like gravel gud to kill this thing

[smoky laurel]

then i won't have damage and there will be too many enemies and they will go through the block limit

[rancid grotto]

https://youtu.be/cHvi00-rwhM?si=RqTQPmh00GT-LvGd
Mlynar guide

[timid nacelle]

omfg

send him the kyo afk guide and let's be done with it

[smoky laurel]

bet i won't have like half the units from that lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

There is not too many enemies, u kill em with balls

[timid nacelle]

u do

exu skal is there

blaze = aoe guard

it's like 8 ops

https://youtu.be/ZOLu8ng8MgU?si=2us5bMe1evlHwacM

@smoky laurel just go to the last section of the video

the clear is on cm

and the strat works for both cm and normal

deploy units > deploy ball > deploy more ball

[smoky laurel]

told you

i don't have nithing gale, i don't have texas built, i don't have red build, i don't have myrtle built

[timid nacelle]

myrtle= Elysium

texas = anything

that gives dp

red = yato

see the guide before talkin

it's like u want to fail the stage

[rancid grotto]

You don't need to go 1 to 1, when using the guide

[smoky laurel]

still, i don't have nithingale

[timid nacelle]

ng = aoe medic

[rancid grotto]

Guide should teach u where to deploy unit and how stage mechanic works

[smoky laurel]

i don't have ptilopsis built

[timid nacelle]

borrow one

damn this is annoying

[smoky laurel]

https://streamable.com/s42ggh

[scarlet fulcrum]

They have gud medics i think

[timid nacelle]

they r processing?

[vocal leaf]

you can also use a bait, gummy and healer can totally work, just deploy her far away

[smoky laurel]

yea

[timid nacelle]

how long that lasts

[smoky laurel]

give it a sec

[smoky laurel]

https://streamable.com/s42ggh

there

[ornate pond]

why are you using a level 1 lumen

and why are you using skadi

[smoky laurel]

no materials to upgrade

[smoky laurel]

i had one free slot left and i had no idea who to pick and i trust her

[ornate pond]

show your box

[neat skiff]

Legit double take to process that, so thank you.

[rancid grotto]

Wtf, use yato alter and kill 11 units on top, then you have time to deploy other units

A lot of time

[vocal leaf]

use more fast aspd units to hit the ball, that help beating the boss faster
if you have issues with dp you can use puzzle e1

[smoky laurel]

they're left with 1 hp

[rancid grotto]

U have texas alter also

[smoky laurel]

and no dp

[rancid grotto]

Use both of them

[smoky laurel]

i place one, i'm out of dp immediately

[vocal leaf]

do you have puzzle?

[rancid grotto]

Don't deploy anything before that kill 11 unit on top

[timid nacelle]

dude

u r kiddin me

go watch the kyo guide

go

[timid nacelle]

tf is warf exu supposed to do

[smoky laurel]

kill the boss

[ornate pond]

why the fuck are you just redirecting people to other guides that dont apply to them lmfao

[timid nacelle]

?

[timid nacelle]

u were hittin the ball with warf exu right ?

[vocal leaf]

use him, try him even at sl4 with s1 you can generate dp quite fast hitting the ball

[glass monolith]

Ballz placeable SUMMARIZE all damage done to it within short span of time and fire it all at once. Boss literally stay on its way

[smoky laurel]

yes

[ornate pond]

i guarantee you kyo is not using a underleveled medic and skadi

[timid nacelle]

uh buddy

[ornate pond]

send your box so its better to get context of what else you have

[timid nacelle]

he has the same units with an easier strat and less slots

[glass monolith]

I still laught at Kyo for using moduled NTR in his H10-3 guide BEFORE NTR module released

[smoky laurel]

wdym box

what is that

[timid nacelle]

don't tap in like a white knight

[ornate pond]

your units

[timid nacelle]

just change the way you are doin this

[ornate pond]

lmao, atp your just baiting

[scarlet fulcrum]

Match box

[timid nacelle]

the placement is all over the place

also why deploy mountain there

[smoky halo]

damn what's cooking

[ornate pond]

wtf are you doing here if your just gonna say "go watch this video that uses totally diffrent units"

[smoky laurel]

#strategy message

[timid nacelle]

hey how about u stfu ?

[peak cloak]

shut up

[smoky halo]

🔥

[ornate pond]

???

[peak cloak]

both shut up now

[rancid grotto]

?

[timid nacelle]

it's literally faster for him to use the video then listen to us because we were givin him advice for 20 mins bedore you came

now onto what I was goin to say about mountain

[ornate pond]

why arent you using mlynar

[timid nacelle]

mountain shouldn't be there

[ornate pond]

great advice because clearly hes using a e2 lvl 1 lumen and fucking skadi

[smoky laurel]

cause he's just gonna get tpd out and be unavaible for a minute and during that minute guess what, everyone die to the boss cause he got too close

[vocal leaf]

omg saria is your perfect bait for boss atks, just brinf fast aspd units and hit the ball, use low dp units, you don’t need mud or penance

[timid nacelle]

if he listened he wouldn't have used them but cleaely you are no better so you aren't either

[smoky laurel]

how do i kill other enemies then? there's no one as durable as them and as high in attack as them

[rancid grotto]

Just watch some guides and borrow unit if you need

[ornate pond]

mlynar has aggro, it doesnt matter if he gets tped away because your gonna just be putting dmg on the item that will redirect dmg to boss

[timid nacelle]

anyways stop puttin ur defenders before your dmg/medics

don't deploy exu warf in that useless spot

[smoky laurel]

they're gonna die anywhere else

[timid nacelle]

put them where they need to dmg the boss

and the enemies

[rancid grotto]

Just use this guide
Ez as fuck
@smoky laurel

[vocal leaf]

well i can tell mountain sa and thorns can kill them easily, most of them will die from hitting ball

[timid nacelle]

that spot they dmg none

either way just trust me and watch the kyo guide it's perfect for you

also get another vg

u clearly have dp management issues

[smoky laurel]

show me how then cause i can't understand how a thing that switches between only 2 spots every century can kill enemies over the entire stage

[timid nacelle]

something like ely+literally a random pioneer

[timid nacelle]

most of the elites in ex-8 stay in the path of the thing that spawns every century

and stay there for a while

u just keep deployin the ball infront of your units