strategy

[vital arrow]

S1

[spark sinew]

keep m3 only

[halcyon adder]

S2 has some rare use cases with reed but prob not worth for most

[spark sinew]

since you barely got resources for m3

[ivory leaf]

I'm very brok

[halcyon adder]

Ya comparing typhon to ray was very weird imo cuz typhon uses s2 90 percent of times

[spark sinew]

it's honestly hard to not see m9 as a waste for me

[west path]

Keeping op’s mastery at M1 or 2 feel a little bit odd to me

[spark sinew]

since most people that do that don't even have p5

or do IS

[ivory leaf]

I don't

[spark sinew]

counterpoint

[halcyon adder]

My only m9 is horn

And it was worth cuz is3

[spark sinew]

she barely uses other skills in is3 though?

you use s1 on ...one map?

[ivory leaf]

Wtf is IS?? (I'm confused)

[spark sinew]

s2 maybe on rat king stage

[halcyon adder]

You use s1 on most other stages outside is so

S2 quite a bit

[west path]

About to M9 skalter but after I saw CE s3 I don’t even bother to M3 her s1 anymore

[halcyon adder]

When u start with her

[spark sinew]

you use s3/don't use horn outside IS ye

[halcyon adder]

I have used her s1 more than s3 tbh

[vital arrow]

S1m3 skalter is like

[spark sinew]

sure but you start with e1

[vital arrow]

CC10 nightingale strat

[spark sinew]

so no access to masteries anyway

[halcyon adder]

One of my fav lazy skills that's actually good

[halcyon adder]

That's true

[spark sinew]

i vaguely remember skalter s1m1 being used and being enough

[halcyon adder]

Well rat king stage

And that stage with chap 10 enemies

[west path]

Skalter s1 comes in really handy to me

[spark sinew]

but it had some jank and i think it was NG pot locked

[west path]

M8-8 supporter only for example

[spark sinew]

every time i used horn s1 i was disapointed personally

it doesn't feel lacking only if you use it for very easy stage, like anni

but then sl7/m1 also works fine...

[halcyon adder]

Maybe u have different expectations

[west path]

My ifrit s2 is still at lv7

🐧

[spark sinew]

well i compare it with s3

[west path]

So as Saria’s skills

[halcyon adder]

I mean it's ab afk skill. Those r not designed for hard contents

[latent monolith]

I remember horn S1M3 being relevant for some stages on exalt event where M1 didn't one shot them so you saved a blocker

but it's of limited use

[summer copper]

integrated strategy
I didnt get to play is1 but its ceobe, is2 is phantom, is3 is mizuki, is4 is typhon, I think

[spice mortar]

Integrated strategy ...

[summer copper]

nvm

I studied too much geography this year

lmao

my brain is confused

[ivory leaf]

OWH THAT

Yeah idk how to play this sjit

[summer copper]

fairly easy
just spam typhon and ur good

[ivory leaf]

Don't hab

[summer copper]

borrow

you can add my tag if u need typhon

[deft badger]

typhon can handle is1-4

[summer copper]

fr

[deft badger]

xD

[summer copper]

its just that good

[narrow patrol]

So any help on Zt 10? Mlynar keeps getting ported out of position and that’s considering I deploy click and gummy immediately to draw the wk’s teleport move

[spice mortar]

Is low diff is incredibly easy and all u need to max rewards

[summer copper]

not for typhon one
I stucked on N0 for a long time and smashed through N7 after make N0

[narrow patrol]

He still picks Mlynar over that

[dapper hedge]

Mlynar has taunt, he pretty much gonna always get tp'ed lol

[spice mortar]

You just need to farm a little bit to get the upgrades, becomes easier after that

[soft crystal]

Just retreat mlynar if hes out of position

[summer copper]

thats true

[sullen rover]

just borrow yato alter

[summer copper]

fr just borrow sm1 else since u dont need auto zt-10 at all

[sullen rover]

what if you need to auto during the rerun for the first time rewards again 🧐

[scarlet fulcrum]

More like revenge with stacked roster

[summer copper]

then just do it manually again?

just 4 minute of ur life

[sullen rover]

nope

[summer copper]

yes

[spice mortar]

By the time event rerun surely you are stronger than now

[narrow patrol]

This one run got lucky

Thank you for giving Mlynar a free shot at you

Texalter was a borrow since there’s no point farming this boss stage

[modern copper]

LEVEL 7????????

[cyan gorge]

Level 7 is max skill level before masteries so yes

[dapper hedge]

e0 skills maxed at 4, e1 7, e2 m3

[astral cosmos]

I can't believe ZT-EX-1 is the most annoying to optimise

god I fucking hate this stage why the fuck is it so hard

[summer copper]

ye level 7 whats wrong with that

btw almost always the demos and setups sent here are at least level 7, if it's a 6* and it's above e2 lv60 then its guaranteed to be M3 on that skill

[astral cosmos]

I fucking hate this stage
this took all my drill plans to optimise

[spark sinew]

why the hell would you optimize it

[summer copper]

what challenge are we doing here

[astral cosmos]

frostleaf tower

I can't believe I'm already crossing out two medics

[summer copper]

wdym

[spark sinew]

do you really need two healers

can't you run a better dps

[summer copper]

like
whats the challenge rn

[spark sinew]

does the tower only start from ex

[astral cosmos]

I need to keep my dps for the later stages
I'm only at the first one grahhh

[spark sinew]

or did you already ban some stuff on normals

[astral cosmos]

no I'm redoing it for the EXs

[spark sinew]

weaksauce, do both at once

[summer copper]

oh thats what u mean for frost tower

[spark sinew]

tower "operator" is you can use only that operator in all states

stages

[astral cosmos]

wishing myself luck to use the remaining ops here for the EXs

[spark sinew]

every other op you can only use once

optimize regular one!

[astral cosmos]

it's already optimised

[spark sinew]

weird how you didn't use something like leon

although i assume you tried already

oh wait it's not cm

borrow reedic

[astral cosmos]

[spark sinew]

hm?

[astral cosmos]

eh no need

I usually try to avoid using leon/greyy2

[spark sinew]

ah, that's fair

[astral cosmos]

but greyy2 was the perfect ZT-6 optimiser so

[astral cosmos]

yes Shalem barely survives
these drum dudes and the tune node stealing mf deal so much damage it's absurd

[spark sinew]

ok i meant like

use better ops and less healers (can probably cut one op total)

although we have a lot of medics anyway i suppose

[astral cosmos]

I have 5.75 medics

[spark sinew]

what, how

[astral cosmos]

if i start burning my dps now i'll run out in later stages
especially that godforsaken ex 7

[astral cosmos]

0.25 for chestnut, 0.5 for nightmare

eh......ok

wanted to use Sesa later but whatever

[spark sinew]

see

[astral cosmos]

I feel like I'll cry and mald when I'll get to 7

meanwhile my ex 2 comp
ex 1 was a rough start

nvm ex 3 is even more annoying than 1

[spark sinew]

doing tower blind looks ???

you should clear it normally and note what you think you'll need to clear all those, no?

[astral cosmos]

I already cleared everything

[spark sinew]

[astral cosmos]

with meta obv

so none of the stages stood out during those clears

well apart from maybe ex 7

[astral cosmos]

yeah but I just spammed eyja exu mountain blaze so everything seemed easy and I couldn't assess the stages properly
now I'm seeing the real issues

[astral cosmos]

yeah alright ex 3 is really damn hard

[summer copper]

It is
Spent the whole 30 drill plan to figure out a typhon+texalter way for cm

[thin nova]

this man is a strategic menace

[latent halo]

using every op once for each ex

sounds fun

[flint berry]

where should i place a box

[glass monolith]

Top of blue box and down right (usual placement for this map). Use others as you see fit

[rich rune]

I use La Pluma to solo so many old resources stages. 1-7 for example.

[glass monolith]

Does AP-5 count as old resource stage?

[spark sinew]

mountain phantom duo it

[glass monolith]

I am Furry free (Mountainless too)

[scarlet mortar]

mud phantom duo it

[latent halo]

alt strats with reaper

[stable igloo]

hi guys, kinda new to being activ on discord,anyone with knowledge can help me make a more well rounded team on my alt please? (pointing what's missing or stuff to change) ty in advance

[latent halo]

sure ?

[stable igloo]

sent you a PM with my current team comp

[odd swallow]

"They gave me 30 drill plans, I'm gonna use all 30 drill plans"

[summer copper]

That's the purpose of drill plans isn't it

[odd swallow]

yup

I only use them now for CM modes tho

[neon lark]

need help clearing zt-4. this is my team (the drummers are wiping me)

[peak cloak]

did you skip the tutorial stage?

pls head back to this stage again and pay attention

[sullen rover]

something like this maybe
if those guys are not sl7 use more operators

also can you max level your kroos

[summer copper]

Try smth like this if the above one is too high for u
Note that only Kroos and adnachiel skill level need to be 7

[peak cloak]

just like i wrote, Tojyo, pls learn to use the mechanic, it's your best friend

[summer copper]

Am I not ur friend 😭

[neon lark]

i manage to clear it changing thorns position, thanks!

[peak cloak]

who wanted you to be my friend?

[summer copper]

Sad

[cursive basin]

i need help on anni 16 ill send my operator i use

if this good?

[peak cloak]

go ahead pls

[peak cloak]

who u are borrowing?

[cursive basin]

i dont know for sure im borrowing a operator are too strong

[peak cloak]

okay, borrow Eyja alter for easier clear

[cursive basin]

soo hard those character who mold

[peak cloak]

add me NikoRU#5710

[cursive basin]

thankss

i send it

[peak cloak]

wait a bit, i will ask u some questions later

[cursive basin]

ah sure

[peak cloak]

are u the KIM05 guy with surtr profile?

[cursive basin]

yeas

[peak cloak]

further more, send me your ops

looks like u have a stacked account

but what u are doing with those low level ops? trust farm perhaps?

[cursive basin]

y

[cursive basin]

i need silence

i stop 2 years ago

and i just returned

[peak cloak]

it's fine. i will reach u out soon.

[cursive basin]

thanks

i still not know everyy uh "thing" these uh very compilcated to understand power andit enemy

[peak cloak]

@cursive basin u can try it, further more u have like 2 free slots, do whatever u want with it

place mon3tr in front of Chen

face up

[cursive basin]

woaa how did you do that

sure

[peak cloak]

prts map

top search on browser

[cursive basin]

awsomee

[peak cloak]

https://map.ark-nights.com/map/

i assume your lappland is s2m3, then it'd be fine

[cursive basin]

m1

this all

[peak cloak]

u can get more members like, Skalter? or Nearl alter or Surtr and have fun there

[cursive basin]

thanks

how about the monster since im deploying kalsit

[peak cloak]

i gives u ideas, now u run the stage yourself

[peak cloak]

.

[cursive basin]

thanks

[peak cloak]

and face up

so that u can help specter just in case

@cursive basin lets me know if u needed help during the process

[steady patrol]

guys how do you beat the is3 jellyfish ending?

the stats of those jellyfish are so absurd

also the constant shockwave from the giant jellyfish only worsens it

[peak cloak]

#is-station those nerds are sure to help u with ease

[steady patrol]

thanks

[peak cloak]

btw, i will remove u after u finish this annihilation, need to maintain one free slot for whoever need my support units

[astral cosmos]

I have this uncanny feeling EX 5 will be an issue

[summer copper]

[glass monolith]

I try to play with minimum amount of 6* to flex skill (mostly to myself). And then EX-8 happened

[peak cloak]

what happened next?

[rustic spire]

how to beat zt 10

I tried to group top and use ping orb as guides do, but then boss teleported and disabled and then killed my backline

Purple is where he killed my backline

[thin nova]

Is this ex10?

[marsh sapphire]

Reran a few E2 supply state with M0 Virtuosa
Life got easy kek

[marsh sapphire]

Yes

Ah wait, thats E-10

Ex mode only have 8 stages

[rustic spire]

It isn't, my mistake

[vivid rain]

Wait a sec i have a 3 stars only guide

(More like sciel have it)

[summer copper]

bro might not have full pot castle-3

that one requires a full pot castle3

[vivid rain]

He has e2 amiya

Same shit

[rustic spire]

I don't have any castles

[summer copper]

its different
full pot castle gives 20% more melee dmg or sm shit

[vivid rain]

His units alone have 20% more melee damage than sciel’s team

[summer copper]

oh

thats true lmao

[vivid rain]

Imagine struggling to dps witch king with fucking typhon lmao

[rustic spire]

he disables her and kills her

where the heck am I supposed to put her

[summer copper]

deploy sm1 like gravel to get that disable bru

he always attack on the last deployed

or just go borrow a mlynar and let him take everything

[peak cloak]

@cursive basin how is it going?

[rustic spire]

I'm still waiting

[vivid rain]

Youtube

[vivid rain]

Wait it isnt sciel it was I love amiya

Dont blame me i dont watch AKYT

[rustic spire]

Why does it matter?

Witch king is getting hit by bubbles not by melee units, right?

[latent monolith]

Does exu 5 hit make the shooting thing go super fast

[deft badger]

is virtuosa up tomorrow the entire day or just till reset?

wanna reroll some accs xD

[latent monolith]

tomorrow the entire day

[glass monolith]

After reset is last day of banner

[latent monolith]

yea

next is the last free pull

do we have another event

[glass monolith]

26 hours of rolling. Summarize of my Dark Souls playthrought

[deft badger]

nothing announced yet, but S stages inc

[thin nova]

Borrow skadi, bonk boss whenever u want

Im not an abyssal simp wym

[astral cosmos]

my ass doing a frostleaf tower w/Forgottenknights and being stuck at EX 5:

[thin nova]

I beat the boss by just slamming skadi ntrk at him constantly atleast

[rustic spire]

I dont wanna borrow 1 broken 6* and do 3* clear with it
why the heck I upgraded all those "great units" just to never use them and borrow anyway

[thin nova]

Skadi isnt broken

Skadi is just a statstick

Dazwhy i like skadig

Simple bonk not elaborate bonk

Well in that case its just finding a way to kill his first phase fast so u can pepper his second phase with the pellet from stage

[glass monolith]

"It is just statstick"
Proceed to eat JT8-3 fire wave and survive, under Gladiia buff alone

[thin nova]

Exactly

Statstick of health and atk

She is great

[spark sinew]

i mean you have 13 slots

and if those "great units" don't make it into remaining 12 slots...yeah they probably suck

[summer copper]

the bubble convert op dmg into physical dmg
so more op dmg = more bubble dmg
and castle-3 increase melee op dmg and its a significant buff since it applies to all melee ops

just borrow those broken units stop have that mental barrier

[astral cosmos]

nvm it was fine, no medics needed

[timid schooner]

how to m8-8

burst medic or d i e

[astral cosmos]

alright now the biggest issue is ZT-EX-7

idrk how I can approach it

[timid schooner]

just mlynar and stall

[astral cosmos]

if only

maybe ayerscarpe can do something

[spark sinew]

saria exalter duo

[tall cairn]

Where ex2.

[spark sinew]

i mean i see saria

[tall cairn]

You mean Saria + ex2 duo the stage?

[deft badger]

ex2 + saria, ling + skalter, texas + yalter

m8-8

[spark sinew]

yes

it was even on cm wasn't it

[tall cairn]

ic.

[odd swallow]

oh wait so me using Typhon S3 on the bubbles wasn't a waste?

I really thought the bubbles have set damage so rapid fire ops are better

[civic bear]

It's kinda is but isnt

It has 0 def

So pure raw DPS is king

Typhon doesnt exactly have high raw dps

[astral cosmos]

idk if I'm right to use Beehunter S2 on them

[civic bear]

Yes

She good for it

[astral cosmos]

I'll be keeping her for EX 8 then

[rustic spire]

Are you sure about "more op damage = more bubble dmg"? It seems like Typhon s3 over bubble does jack shit in phase 2

[spark sinew]

i see no dps for ex8 for you

typhon s3 does have crappy damage

[summer copper]

I'm very sure
Literally explained in tutorial and description

[astral cosmos]

dw beehunter/aciddrop sweep
bubble makes everything easier anyway

[civic bear]

Typhon s3 is slow but high atk

[spark sinew]

does bubble even hit the boss

[civic bear]

It specialize on high def from def ignore

[astral cosmos]

EX 8 is gonna be a piece of cake just like ZT8 was

[spark sinew]

on ex8

[astral cosmos]

a lot

[civic bear]

If the enemy has 0 def then she basicly cut her kit in half

[summer copper]

It hit
But a slight delay after boss tp

[astral cosmos]

well for now I'm malding on EX 7

yay not enough healing

[odd swallow]

EX-7 is surpisingly tough

I would say tougher than the boss

[spark sinew]

4 and 5* versions of rosa don't do well vs def, right

[odd swallow]

the wat

[spark sinew]

yeah, so much happening in the middle

[spark sinew]

was related to rechord
was thinking to use Totter or Toddi

[astral cosmos]

yeah I'm tryna figure out something with valarqvin

[spark sinew]

but they probably scratch the enemies

[astral cosmos]

eh I've got none of them

raised I mean

[odd swallow]

I was trying to do off-meta 6 stars on EX-7 like I did in EX-1 to EX-6

had to bring out Mlynar and the executors to beat CM

[dapper hedge]

WK is barely a threat in ex8

[odd swallow]

WK's rng can literally make things worse for him lol

[astral cosmos]

was WK ever a threat

[odd swallow]

the real MVP enemies are the cellist with relfect and the dudes with the big a** clarinets

[odd swallow]

nah I'm more scared of his elites

Phase 2 WK is just annoying but no hard

[spark sinew]

eh WK basically removes 2 of your units

[astral cosmos]

oh shit oh god oh f

[spark sinew]

cool boss

[astral cosmos]

bottom fucked me up

[lethal dragon]

Fersangu alive

[dapper hedge]

Yeah but in ZT10 phase1 at least he's tp near you and attack, phase1 wk in ex8 does nothing

[spark sinew]

sorry i like specaster players more

weird how he's the only sniper one

[odd swallow]

bruh in ZT-10 he keeps removing my main dps while Fia and Iffy keeps on bullying him lol

[lethal dragon]

There are some in other brackets

[spark sinew]

which one was this

[odd swallow]

on EX-8 WK teleported my mudrock on the bottom lane which actually helped me

[spark sinew]

oh right they ban the ops that aren't out in TW server?

for en and cn

[odd swallow]

TW is like 4 months behine Global right?

[astral cosmos]

yeah he's alright

I think I might have to resort to tomimi

[glass monolith]

Resort to Lunacub

[astral cosmos]

don't have her raised

[spice mortar]

We don't either in your place

[deft badger]

so who do i do?

[astral cosmos]

virtuosa, jester

i guess

[glass monolith]

And that kids is why you don't whale in AK. Holy F how you have so many left over to build

[deft badger]

hahahaha, well a lot of them joined since i did have to pull a lot for virtuosa

[astral cosmos]

meanwhile me

[deft badger]

see he is even worst then me... but ok u are mainly playing 5 stars?

[astral cosmos]

I stopped building 6* last year yeah

[deft badger]

btw i got my self from the selector 😄

[glass monolith]

Meanwhile me have only Siege, Lumen, Virtuosa, Dogboy, Aak, Male Skadi not e2'd

[astral cosmos]

what a sane person would do

[spice mortar]

I have 20 6* now

With only the best of the best e2d

[smoky halo]

badknights specialist but vigil not raised

what a fruad

[astral cosmos]

too bad 6* are not included

[smoky halo]

oh u dont play 6star

[astral cosmos]

(don't think I would've raised Vigil either way, too expensive )

[smoky halo]

6star expensive ya

[ivory leaf]

What arts caster can I use to destroy this drunk elf's in aqua pits

[dapper hedge]

I mean what do you have, gg s2 are usually enough, optionally you can just lappland them

[remote perch]

i used GG for them

[ivory leaf]

Alright gg

[deft badger]

is viviana good for anything?

[glass monolith]

When Defender Medic Caster combo to deal with something is outside your coverage

[spark sinew]

[glass monolith]

I used her to 'solo' (with medic) funny set reed on fire dudes in elemental cancer SSS.
Then went into same tower on Hard and failed to draw Viviana so my entire map was on fucking burning reed

[deft badger]

here he is... 🖕

[foggy grove]

s2m3 her

[spark sinew]

yeah i go into this chat and only see bad decisions from you

[deft badger]

that means that u are just a bad sensei...

[void terrace]

Damn is it just me or is hoederer pretty cracked in is

I've been doing N9 runs for the ending medals

And hoederer absolutely destroys the first few stages with super inflated stats

[spark sinew]

you're a horrible listener more like

[spark sinew]

it's d9, there's no inflated stats

[void terrace]

As in hoederer

[deft badger]

i am just going to say, how can a student be successful if the quality of teaching is inadequate

[void terrace]

Like he has 8k hp base

Which is pretty funny

He has some pretty good value later on for duelling elites too

Anyone tried him on n15?

His 3 block aoe DMG start is pretty strong

[spark sinew]

so so

[void terrace]

Also Vivi has been helping my ending 3 runs a lot

Her being able to just nuke the ball from range

[deft badger]

hahahaha

[void terrace]

Is pretty funny

[deft badger]

how to trigger hauck, say that a trash op is useful

[void terrace]

Like my usual set up is saria S3, texalt S2 and reed S2 for reed sandwich

Vivi can sit one tile higher and contribute a large amount of dmg

And also contributes to holding the lane

Vivi is great with buffs her DMG output is really good on a low cycle

[deft badger]

now he is going to tell u that could have been done

[void terrace]

She's just screwed by her lack of res shred

[spark sinew]

you're missing the point

[deft badger]

by any other op as well xD

[void terrace]

Yeah been there friend

This place is going mad HAHA

[glass monolith]

And that's how to trigger me

[void terrace]

Yertus

H13 4 is

Pain peko

[spark sinew]

more like you cut vivi and nothing changes

[void terrace]

Nah I used ceobe but she's too squishy and always dies to the ball

[deft badger]

hahaha

[void terrace]

Vivi stabilised the DMG significantly

And consistently

Contributing heavily to the DMG output of Texas. Even when reed died

Vivi still managed to make up the dmg

Clearing the bosses second phase in one skill cycle

Too bad I didn't get a vid of it

She's not the best op

But she does do her job

She's super fun with buffs

[deft badger]

he wouldn't watch it anyway even if u are 100% right lol

[void terrace]

Yeah

Ikr

Eeh it be like that

No bad blood

I'm just here to find new dumb strats that work and the occasional nugget of insight

Which surprisingly comes more often than not

[spark sinew]

?

[deft badger]

instead u are getting trolled by hauck

[spark sinew]

I'm not joking, you can probably cut her, reedic texas should do fine on d9

[void terrace]

Usually

But when I get screwed my no medic vouchers or stuff

Or when the boss uses his field on a weird tile

Vivi makes the run much more stable

And guarantees the kill

With her surtr plus level dmg

Her extra tile range lets her sit at the top of the left path and hold lane while also contributing to the boss nuking

Just try it it's pretty fun

Or did she skip you in pulls T-T

I had way too few deployment slots for this but Vivi certainly pulled her weight

Didn't even manage to deploy reed the whole run

[spark sinew]

that's a wild deploy setup I won't lie

[tall cairn]

Strange ye.

[void terrace]

Heh

Livin dangerously

Hoederer was deployed a tile higher for most of the run

[spark sinew]

livin on d9

[void terrace]

It's enuf for the medals

I just want my squads page looking nice and shiny

I'm so pissed the ending 1 medal is silver while the rest are blue

I kept thinking I cleared it only on a lower difficulty

[spark sinew]

there's literally a medal for d10 isn't it

[void terrace]

Is it?

[spark sinew]

unless you gonna argue that trim doesn't count

[void terrace]

Oh nono

As in the ending clear medals

On each squad

They have diff colours up to N9 clears

[spark sinew]

oh yeah then there's d12 one

[tall cairn]

Ah yeah so err, there’s ye.

[void terrace]

Is there

Oh noes

[spark sinew]

yes

[void terrace]

There's a D12 oneeeeee

Fuck

[tall cairn]

After expansion.

[void terrace]

Oh well

[tall cairn]

It’ll appear.

[spark sinew]

but i mean d12 is still a cakewalk

go for it

[void terrace]

Ay

Time to bust out pot 6 mylnar and typhon

[spark sinew]

there's d15 badges as well

same with is3

[void terrace]

Fuck

No way

You kidding

[tall cairn]

Js the complete once and you’re done kind.

[void terrace]

I didn't see the diff on is 3

Oh

[spark sinew]

like game showing you your highest difficulty clear of a certain ending

[void terrace]

Ok

[spark sinew]

in navigator terminal

[void terrace]

Oh yeah have those

Phew

[spark sinew]

you do?

[void terrace]

Yeah

I've cleared d15 and n15

[spark sinew]

on ed4?

[void terrace]

Only first ending tho

[spark sinew]

yeah there's 4 separate ones

[void terrace]

Nope

[spark sinew]

for each ending

[void terrace]

Wait what

[tall cairn]

[void terrace]

Now your confusing me

[spark sinew]

there are

[tall cairn]

Get to work.

[void terrace]

Imma Google this shit

Somebody trollin

[spark sinew]

i always knew you weren't sincere

thanks for the confession

[tall cairn]

[void terrace]

These medals don't have difficulty

What d15 difficulty medals do you speak of?

Any screenshots imma actually not seen em

[peak cloak]

who is that madlad?

[void terrace]

Not me

[deft badger]

i am watching this since 5min xD

[void terrace]

Oh shit

[spark sinew]

not those

[tall cairn]

is4 has it too.

[void terrace]

Personal stats

[tall cairn]

ya.

[void terrace]

Heh

Time to go back to d 15

[spark sinew]

use vivi to carry!

[tall cairn]

[void terrace]

Lmao hauck you really are the worst

[spark sinew]

❤️

[tall cairn]

He’s just reminding you of greener pastures.

[spark sinew]

but this one is sincere

[tall cairn]

[void terrace]

Heh yeah

I mean

My roster is more than fine other than vivi

But spamming max pot mylnar and typhon

On everything gets booring

Maybe I will try it with vivi. Too bad she doesn't really counter the is 3 bosses

None of them have meele

And bypass her sheild

[spark sinew]

i mean, neither does she counter is4 bosses or mini bosses

[void terrace]

Other than being able to spam nuke on boss 3

[spark sinew]

"nuke"

[void terrace]

If I wanted a nuker

I mean

I could just pick someone

But Vivi is fun

I mean should I get pot 6 mylnar

[spark sinew]

i see only 3 options here

[void terrace]

Or pot 2 ines

[spark sinew]

even then ceobe is a bit wonky

[void terrace]

I regret not getting higher pots on her

[spark sinew]

just wait for logos or something

[void terrace]

Lmao hauck who do you even use

[spark sinew]

so really it's like 2 ops

[void terrace]

Just mylnar Typhon?

[spark sinew]

typhon is terrible for the boss

[void terrace]

The saddest arknights roster

[latent halo]

man that max pot mlynar and typhon

[spark sinew]

but i also just skipped her entirely

[thin nova]

Which IS we talking aboot

[void terrace]

It close enuf T-T

[spark sinew]

4

[void terrace]

Nono we just talking about Haucks allergy to anything that's non meta

[spark sinew]

i use probably more non meta than you

[thin nova]

Dawg i know a friend with only 2 limiteds in total at lvl 90

[void terrace]

Who

[spark sinew]

but i don't cope bad things being bad

my krooster is up to date

[void terrace]

Heh

[thin nova]

They missed out every single limited banner except yato and chongyue

[void terrace]

Damn

That fking rough

I didn't realise they were missing them

Soz if I hit a nerve

Not having ops is painful T-T

[void terrace]

What's your tag

Imma look up your krooster

Ooh I like that pallas S1m3

[astral cosmos]

argh EX 7 is awful

[void terrace]

Do you use her often?

She worth raising?

[steady shale]

I only just completed EX6 and this line scares me

[void terrace]

@spark sinew that hellagur and qiubai too

Damn

M9

[void terrace]

Rip

[astral cosmos]

it's ok if you aren't doing Forgottenknights Frostleaf tower
and have one medic and a half

[void terrace]

Is someone actually

Trying that

[astral cosmos]

yeah

hi

[void terrace]

Good luck

[steady shale]

Hope your sanity is still intact 😭

[void terrace]

What counts as forgotten knights

[astral cosmos]

it's not precisely forgottenknights
it's a mix between badknights and forgottenknights

[void terrace]

Ah yes

[astral cosmos]

I only have this left for EX 7 and 8

[steady shale]

I’ve had to use Texas Alter, Mlynar and Eyja Alter every time to stop myself from dying and yet I’m still coping with these stages

[deft badger]

is that a skin?

[void terrace]

I read your name as blacknight specialist

Damn dyslexia

Badknights makes more sense now

[void terrace]

Yeahh

[thin nova]

I got almost all limiteds except spalter and a few i skipped

Hard coping on that spalter, no nerves struck u good

[steady shale]

Wait is that even possible

[thin nova]

My friend is hardcoping tho

[astral cosmos]

it is, just tryna figure this out
EX 8 will use like 4 ops besides Frostleaf i reckon, this stage is very easy
EX 7 on the other hand

[glass monolith]

EX-7 CM is so cursed i broke my no 6* challenge on it

[steady shale]

RIP

[astral cosmos]

fortunately I am not doing CMs

[void terrace]

Aah meant to hauck but thank youuu

[void terrace]

That's mad

[spark sinew]

eh, not really
i used her on cn acc with much more limited roster on events/anni/ra2 and she's alright

but in your acc you basically won't ever feel the need to use her as bis

[void terrace]

Aurora

[spark sinew]

very strong vermeil factory worker though

[void terrace]

Is considered good?

[astral cosmos]

Aurora is

kinda sad

[void terrace]

Yeah but that's good for you

I mean badknights

[void terrace]

Ay makes sense

I remember the time she was hyped as bear killer in is2

I need to raise 5 stars

[cursive basin]

@Niko'RU | Seaborn racist. im already done it work soryy for late reply i was busy irl

[cursive basin]

@peak cloak

[peak cloak]

np, was it easy?

[cursive basin]

yes

it was perfect layout

no problem added

"check" it i used there, the X didnt use
the circle it was used bc too many uh enemy on the down one spawn then exit, it can be use afk farming plus trust farming

[peak cloak]

may i know what is the picture about? my internet is on her period

[glass monolith]

Something something. NTR in circle. Surtr April marked with X. Flagpipe Specter Skalter Lapp Saria Ifrit Chalter Kal "checked"

[astral cosmos]

im slowly losing my mind

[cursive basin]

my operator

im doing the rest avenue

[tidal sedge]

Any IS operators recommended here

Omg badknight specialist just like me fr

[astral cosmos]

[tidal sedge]

Pl

anyways badknight specialist do you have any recommendations

[astral cosmos]

i can only recommend 5* you won't have raised

[tidal sedge]

That’s so you

Lemme hear it

[astral cosmos]

eh well those are my usual picks

[tidal sedge]

Yyyyyeaaaa

What does dagda do

[astral cosmos]

she hits hard unless the target has a bit too much def

[tidal sedge]

Oh lmao

Who’s the girl to the right of blue poison

[astral cosmos]

nightmare

[tidal sedge]

Oh so she’s nightmare

Never seen her

[astral cosmos]

rightfully so

[tidal sedge]

What about the left of quercus i dunno how to spell

[deft badger]

who made that list... xD

[astral cosmos]

I did, because that's who I use

[astral cosmos]

Mint

[deft badger]

ahh ok that explains it...

[astral cosmos]

[tidal sedge]

I’m so confused

Is there an IS meta

There is isn’t there

[astral cosmos]

eh well, Reed/Jester starts are the most popular

soon Degen starts will flourish

[tidal sedge]

Who the hell is jester

[astral cosmos]

jessica alter

[tidal sedge]

LMAO

I see people using dagda sometimes maybe I should use her

[latent monolith]

Which IS

[tidal sedge]

Uh is there a general one

I mean the mizuki one I guess if there isn’t

[latent monolith]

There isn't a general one, meta options change between them

[astral cosmos]

krooster start ftw
we can hop in #is-station

[tidal sedge]

That’s so sad

[latent monolith]

Also depends somewhat on what difficulty you're playing at

[tidal sedge]

okay hopping in

Okay never mind back here

[latent monolith]

Like thorns is extremely nice and easy for normal IS2 but really sucks for IS3 (or 4) especially with some more difficulty added

[tidal sedge]

I’m playing on normal

[tidal sedge]

So right

Thing is I hate thorns (in general) and his first 2 skills

[latent monolith]

Ye in IS2 you can just get him to E2 for free with guard squad

[tidal sedge]

I like the female characters a lot more

[latent monolith]

Which doesn't really work in IS3 because they nerfed them

[tidal sedge]

What how

[tidal sedge]

Ew

[latent monolith]

In IS2 at the start you can pick squads, the default one is 4 temporary life points each stage

[tidal sedge]

Yeah

[latent monolith]

But there are some you can unlock which give you free E2s of two given classes

One of which is guards and vanguards

[tidal sedge]

I probably don’t have that unlocked

[latent monolith]

From IS3 onwards they're not a guaranteed E2

[tidal sedge]

If I need to complete an adventure to unlock it then

[latent monolith]

They reduce hope cost and rng E2

[tidal sedge]

Lemme go see or something

[latent monolith]

Ye but it can be unlocked on easy iirc

[tidal sedge]

Oh damn

Like calm seas easy

[latent monolith]

But for IS3 the general meta sqaud for dealing with most of ed1 is pozy mlynar texas alter horn

[tidal sedge]

GREAT

[latent monolith]

Gavial alter used to be the best starter option but now we have a F1 stage with air units

[tidal sedge]

I have all except pozy which is sad but yay

[latent monolith]

Kroos alter is generally what's taken at higher difficulties after expansion

[tidal sedge]

Oh damn I used to use gavial alter for all three IS and it worked but I dunno I just can’t finish it

Is kroosalter gettable in the invitation to wine thing

[latent monolith]

Not right now

[tidal sedge]

FFFFFFF

WHY

[latent monolith]

But given that she is a starter you can borrow her

[tidal sedge]

OH MY G

I was so looking forward to getting her

I can unlock things in calm seas

Am I right

[latent monolith]

Not a lot of things

It's generally not recommended to play on easy mode to grind rewards

You gain more from losing on normal mode

[tidal sedge]

What about the thorns e2 start?

[latent monolith]

Pretty sure you can unlock those playing on easy but it's not going to work that well in IS3 anyways

[tidal sedge]

Damn so I might as well just not use thorns

[latent monolith]

The problem is that there's a 1/3 chance that you can get a 6 star freely E2d and support 6 stars can never get it

[tidal sedge]

I see

[cursive basin]

is this good for anni 22

[vital arrow]

You cant

[cursive basin]

i dont have thornn

[tidal sedge]

I see

[vital arrow]

Whats anni 22

[latent monolith]

I do remember that I unlocked bsl by clearing is2 on easy

[cursive basin]

decaying wastes

[latent monolith]

So there are stuff you can unlock

[vital arrow]

It should only unlock on normal

Since easy mode doesnt unlock anything

[tidal sedge]

Is it the uh “complete an adventure with at least 5 vanguard or guards”

[vital arrow]

Yes

[tidal sedge]

I can’t even complete an adventure i just suck tbh

That or the operators I’m using are underleveled which they are

[astral cosmos]

æææææææ how am i supposed to manage both lanessssssss

[tidal sedge]

Mlynar in that fence in the middle

[astral cosmos]

I wish

[tidal sedge]

Oh yeah you’re a BADknights

Uh tequila LOL

[astral cosmos]

nah he ain't in it kekw

[foggy grove]

tequila isn't bad

[tidal sedge]

Okay sorry..😔

[latent monolith]

Prob both

[tidal sedge]

I’m bad for not being able to complete an IS run

[latent monolith]

Knowledge and skill tree go a long way

[tidal sedge]

LOL!

[latent monolith]

If you get used to how a map plays you can plan a lot better

[tidal sedge]

I just can’t decide who to level and not

[latent monolith]

And the skill tree buffs help a lot too

[tidal sedge]

Is it normal to just end the run at like stage 4

[vital arrow]

The best way to get good in IS is fuck around and find out

[tidal sedge]

By end I mean lose

[vital arrow]

Wdyn stage 4

[astral cosmos]

yeah I'm probably gonna need both greyy and earthspirit for bottom

[vital arrow]

Like 4th floor

[tidal sedge]

Like “raging billows” but after that

Yes

[vital arrow]

4th combat node

[tidal sedge]

No no not mode

[vital arrow]

Youre expected to fail

[tidal sedge]

Oh

[vital arrow]

It costs 0 sanity for a reason

[tidal sedge]

Whaaaatt??? Then how am I supposed to complete an adventure

What’s that mean????

[vital arrow]

Expected

Not supposed to

[tidal sedge]

wwwwhhhhhaaaa????

[vital arrow]

?

[tidal sedge]

That’s so crazy

[vital arrow]

Have you never played a roguelike

[tidal sedge]

IS has always been a pain

Yes

I’m new

[latent monolith]

No like any rougelike not IS

[wide sail]

why people hate thinking so much

[vital arrow]

Youre expected to fail because you know next to nothing

You fail

[latent monolith]

But ig yea you haven't

[vital arrow]

Then try again

[latent monolith]

You learn more with time

[tidal sedge]

I mean that’s

[latent monolith]

And the game does have a skill tree too

[vital arrow]

You do it over and over again

[tidal sedge]

what I’m trying to do here

[vital arrow]

Yes keep doing it

Thats what everyone does

[tidal sedge]

and I am thinking so um

[latent monolith]

A lot of it is map knowledge we can't really help that well here

[vital arrow]

They bang their head on the same wall until they get it

[latent monolith]

And just being used to playing it

[tidal sedge]

alright

🫡

[latent monolith]

I've lost most of my IS4 runs for example until very recently

Despite having a lot of the meta squad

Due to unfamiliar nodes and lack of skill tree buffs

[tidal sedge]

Hmm yeah

[vital arrow]

How many runs have you done in IS3

[wide sail]

if u want to win quickly google videos or streams of people playing with the same opener a bunch

[tidal sedge]

Who me?

[vital arrow]

Ye

[tidal sedge]

That’d be boring and I won’t be thinking if I do that

[wide sail]

yeah fair

[tidal sedge]

Barely I m at like 10 in the rewards

[vital arrow]

Thats rookie numbers

[tidal sedge]

I’m just wondering if it’s normal for me to lose every run

[vital arrow]

Youre not even like 10 runs in

[tidal sedge]

Dude I am literally a rookie

[vital arrow]

Yeah thats why youre expected to fail

You know nothing about the maps

You have no skill tree

[tidal sedge]

Yes that’s great that I learned that I thought others were just clearing it

First try

[vital arrow]

You keep doing it until you literally 'git gud'

[tidal sedge]

I see I’m glad I guessed right

Weight off my chest

[wide sail]

i cleared like 4000 nodes in is3 and lost a bajillion times at the start of is4 anyway

it hard

[foggy grove]

some people do get lucky and cleared blind first try

[tidal sedge]

Hmm better luck next time

[wide sail]

im pretty sure i died first node on beasts

[tidal sedge]

Okay hoe in 40 pulls not everyone’s like you okay smartypants kidding

[vital arrow]

I cleared is2 and is4 on first run

[latent monolith]

I think my first IS4 clear was second try

But then I lost like 6 in a row

[vital arrow]

Just the first run

[latent monolith]

At various points

[tidal sedge]

Wait so u guys DO clear it first few times

what’s real and what’s not now I dunno

[latent monolith]

Ye but we already know what the meta ops are and we have fully raised ops

[vital arrow]

I got lucky

[wide sail]

i think i lost more on easy mode more than all up to d14

[vital arrow]

And I have a full screen of meta ops

[latent monolith]

So we just got lucky and had enough ops to deal with anything

[tidal sedge]

Trues

I do nOT have any ops for IS

[latent monolith]

• likely being more experienced with the game overall

[tidal sedge]

Any suggestions for ops

[latent monolith]

Even without map knowledge it helps

[tidal sedge]

Like frostleaf is she good

[latent monolith]

No

[astral cosmos]

NO

[tidal sedge]

SHIT

WHY

[vital arrow]

Lmao frostleaf

[foggy grove]

frostleaf is member of badknight

[tidal sedge]

I like her

[leaden tide]

Every op is the same there is no one above all ;3

[foggy grove]

[tidal sedge]

no im leveling her

[astral cosmos]

||well I did frostleaf solo is3 but that's a tiny detail||

[wide sail]

shes famously the worst design op of all time

[tidal sedge]

I like her I’m a BADKNIGHTS SPECIALIST

what

[latent monolith]

Frostleaf is brawling with quartz for worst 4 star

[vital arrow]

Then uh

Good luck ig

Clearing IS with badknights

[tidal sedge]

Okay chill jeez

Getting so heated cuz of frostleaf my beloved damn

[astral cosmos]

I play both
I still find frostleaf worse

[tidal sedge]

Well then I guess you’re not that much of a badknights specialist

[astral cosmos]

(and I find beehunter even worse than frostleaf but that's another debate)

[tidal sedge]

What beehunter is bad

What about flint

[latent monolith]

Basically all the non 6 star fighters are just bad

[vital arrow]

More usable

[tidal sedge]

I’m not backing down for flint nor frostleaf I’m definitely leveling them

[vital arrow]

Still bad in the grad scheme of things

[astral cosmos]

flint iiiiiiis yeah kinda bad not worse though

[tidal sedge]

Fuck the hope system

[vital arrow]

Like any brawler other than mountain

[tidal sedge]

I hate you!

[vital arrow]

Is defective

[latent monolith]

CY

[astral cosmos]

welcome to my niche

[vital arrow]

Oh ye chungus exista

[latent monolith]

So yea the non 6 stars

[tidal sedge]

What then

[astral cosmos]

quercus

raise your quercus NOW!!!!

[tidal sedge]

So I just go with mudrock start like I always have then

I don’t even have her

[vital arrow]

Ew

Mud start is ass

[astral cosmos]

Mudrock start is

wild

[vital arrow]

36DP start

[tidal sedge]

IM NEW I DONT EVEN KNOW WHO AND WHAT TO USE

STOP OVERREACTING

[void terrace]

Who do you have

[spice mortar]

35 if shes pot4

[astral cosmos]

just go reedic start like I said earlier idk

[vital arrow]

Youre overreacting

[latent monolith]

Just do kroos
I can give you mine if nobody in your friends has her

[leaden tide]

Vanguards are a good early deployement like in every stage

[tidal sedge]

jessicalter start I heard someone say she’s good

[latent monolith]

IS3 not 4

[vital arrow]

Were just saying your starts are bad

[astral cosmos]

oh oops

krooster then yeah

[vital arrow]

Is3 is ling or gavialt start

[astral cosmos]

highmore start is also viable but falls off hard later

[latent monolith]

Ling is good too yea

[tidal sedge]

IS 2 discussion now chat

[spice mortar]

For is3 texalt will solo carry lower diff

[tidal sedge]

Who do I start

[vital arrow]

Same

Ling

[latent monolith]

Ye basically

[tidal sedge]

I don’t have her

[latent monolith]

Since you don't have thorns E2

[vital arrow]

Borrow

[tidal sedge]

I do

[latent monolith]

Borrow

[tidal sedge]

Oh

I didn’t even know I could do that

[spice mortar]

Isnt is2 easy enough to start with pretty much anyone

[vital arrow]

You just said you borrowed mud

[tidal sedge]

Oh no I don’t have thorns e2 in IS yeah you’re right

No I use mud

My own mud

Why’d I borrow I have my wife

[leaden tide]

That's a rock lover not a wzifu

[spice mortar]

Is this about mud or quercus then

[tidal sedge]

Probably but I’m very bad at the game hence I’m enquiring

[vital arrow]

Pozy start also great if you want a carry that can handle bosses

[tidal sedge]

It’s about que

[latent monolith]

[tidal sedge]

Someone said vanguard starts are good

[astral cosmos]

highmore start if you're broke

[vital arrow]

Vg start is ass

[tidal sedge]

I can’t use bagpipe nor ines they just

[latent monolith]

Bag is pretty useless in all of the IS

[leaden tide]

Myrtle godlike everywhere wdym

[vital arrow]

Shes not

[tidal sedge]

Okay chat which vanguard

[spice mortar]

Fang and an actual carry

[vital arrow]

Fang

[tidal sedge]

Ok true I do use fang

[vital arrow]

I mean

We literally told you ling/pozy/gavialt/exat strat

[tidal sedge]

Fang alter that is

[latent monolith]

The only vanguard that's actually good for IS is Ines, fang is good mostly for being cheap

[tidal sedge]

Okay I’ll use gavialt

Like I used to

But I got silly

[tidal sedge]

Pog

I’ll recruit Ines maybe

I have bad hope management tho

[latent monolith]

Ines is not really a good starter tho

[astral cosmos]

EX 7 is slowly driving me insaneeeeeeeeeee~

[tidal sedge]

Just use

Frostleaf

[astral cosmos]

it's a frostleaf tower anyway

[stable dune]

to this day idfk how to use pozy in is3

[nova wing]

2x holders. 2x medic. 2 aoe caster/sniper.

The rest would be ethan for damage for second for the orb

[timid nacelle]

what's frost doin exactly

[astral cosmos]

that's the issue...you don't have the context...

[smoky halo]

hes doing frostleaf tower

so uh

painge

theres a simple solution