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plucky osprey
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that's what I have been doing the past hour

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"borrow yalter"

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yeah ik mechs. He teleports in a clockwise pattern

peak cloak
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🧐i saw that

plucky osprey
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you hit the ball to kill the row of musical enemies

west path
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Even 3* can beat this stage

peak cloak
plucky osprey
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yeah I did

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he just wont die

west path
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Save the ball for the boss

plucky osprey
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the ball never stays where I want it to

plucky osprey
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he teleports every time I tried using it on him

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the ball also teleports whenever I wanna use it on him

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rn, ik this stage mechanics but I can't beat it cuz the damn ball wont stay in place

west path
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Then, just ignore it completely

plucky osprey
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i also tried that

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he wipes my team in a few shot

west path
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1P replay is a way to go

plucky osprey
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huh?

west path
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If there’s no op, he can’t kill any

plucky osprey
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1P replay???

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but how would i block incoming enemies?

west path
west path
plucky osprey
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then I fail the stage

west path
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Kill them before that

plucky osprey
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how?

west path
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Ehm,

plucky osprey
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yeah, exactly

west path
plucky osprey
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people never tell me HOW to use yato

west path
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Mostly you put her down and the boss health bar got depleted

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I guess you can’t borrow e2 since your ops are all e1

plucky osprey
west path
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Well, e2 your texas, I believe this event gives you enough mats

west path
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Hmm I will try with my e1 4*

plucky osprey
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this was my team

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the issue is that the boss teleports my operators

vivid rain
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He teleports the last deployed or ops with taunt

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That’s what gravel is for

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But he teleport two at once so you should bring another teleport bait

plucky osprey
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OHHHH

plucky osprey
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will try tomorrow

west path
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This map is funny

vivid rain
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Easiest map for no reason

west path
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Yeh

vivid rain
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Only bad thing about this map is how there are so many banned tiles

west path
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They just die for no reason

vivid rain
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Cant maximize spawncampinh

west path
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Don’t need to farm in this map anyway

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Supporters are so strong for no reason

summer copper
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just realised

modern copper
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Hey chat how do

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The loggers decimate everything in my set

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Which is bad

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And if I try to deploy more defenders I don't get enough points to defend the bug wave

near folio
modern copper
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Cross

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The bnuuy

near folio
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Also instead of spot you could bring in guys like Cuora or Beagle since they are more physically defensive than medic defenders

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And will be able to take logger hits better

modern copper
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Oh shat

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Beagle

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I forgot

modern copper
summer copper
modern copper
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I killed chat with my skibidi rizz

summer copper
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Her splash dmg is very good

modern copper
summer copper
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Ye u solo killed the chat

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Maybe u can try open spot skill when loggers come
he gives 25% dodge chance to ops he healed

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u won't need to auto ls-4 since ls-5 is better

modern copper
summer copper
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Used to deal with those dodge chance when I'm new

ivory leaf
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So is QB an option to E2 nowSkadiDaijoubu

summer copper
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Can be

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But not the best options cz many ppl dunno how to use

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Also it's very hard to pair her with 3* in most levels so I also don't have any plan to E2 her anytime soon either

near folio
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QB S2 probably gets more mileage in low rarity runs

summer copper
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Ye

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Extra range

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Slow

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Only 12 sp

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Dmg to all enemies after skill

ivory leaf
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Fair

summer copper
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Better than S3 in my opinion

ivory leaf
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Slow plus damage

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Great clear

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Alright I'll just E2 penance

summer copper
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Also cool skin

ivory leaf
summer copper
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Ye penance better lol

ivory leaf
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Cough E2 panance with S1

near folio
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I wonder if Flingers can bypass the directional barrier mechanic

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Since their attacks technically come from above

summer copper
near folio
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Time for CM

summer copper
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Ye it can't pass

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Checked with rosmontis

near folio
limpid siren
odd swallow
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Virtuosa isn't as good as she was as hyped to be

summer copper
foggy grove
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what kind of hype you are hearing lol

odd swallow
# summer copper How so

now this is what I am really not sure about

cuz I remember hype about here being am excellent wave clear with damage that is "technically similar to true damage" because no one in the game has elemental res yet

summer copper
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It is

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She is not good on dmg but rather elemental bar she gave

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Even S1 is not bad

odd swallow
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so is it better to use her to support my main dps? cuz I think I have the wrong idea that the hype around being the best aoe

summer copper
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On S3 is mainly aoe

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But S2 is better in my opinion

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Pair her with sm1 that has insane aspd

odd swallow
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but I think S3 AOE is not as strong as I expected it to be

vital arrow
odd swallow
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which skill should I rely on the most?

vital arrow
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Her damage has never been good

foggy grove
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i mean it's just 24k true aoe

vital arrow
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Her main point is to bypass def/res in a huge aoe

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People just hyped her up because shes a jailbroken npc

foggy grove
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it's nothing to be excited about

vital arrow
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People who said virtuosa is amazing/broken doesnt know how her elemental damage works

odd swallow
vital arrow
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I mean

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Shes a high end content operator

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You can count on one hand the amount of enemies that need some kind of true damage

foggy grove
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the content where she shines is the content that average people don't play anyhow

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like high risk cc etc

near folio
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You can also stack all 3 buffs from her S3 onto one operator as well

vital arrow
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Her buff is just 30%

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Thats pretty underwhelming

odd swallow
near folio
vital arrow
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She gives atk/def/hp buff to operators with the highest respective stat

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If theres only one op in range then that op gets all the buff

odd swallow
vital arrow
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Have you played CC before

odd swallow
vital arrow
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S3 procs necrosis in 5s

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S2 needs a partner for it to work effectively

odd swallow
vital arrow
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Then you havent seen the content where virtuosa shines

near folio
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She does see use in high risk CC1

vital arrow
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Shes really good when your ops have half their stat and enemies have triple their stat

near folio
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Im thinking of whether to get degen or virtuosa

vital arrow
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Degen is better in genersl

near folio
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I already have some hard hitters like Mlynar

vital arrow
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Arturia is a niche pick

odd swallow
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I'll see about that when the next CC comes to global

summer copper
near folio
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For laneholding its cope but I have Jessica alter

vital arrow
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No one uses degen for laneholding

near folio
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Should I be getting Virtuosa or Degen?

vital arrow
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Degen

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Like I said if youre not touching high risk CC

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Arturia gives you nothing

summer copper
near folio
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She is in the E2 60 group

odd swallow
near folio
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Logos waiting room

vital arrow
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If you want plain unadulterated damage

spark sinew
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congrats, now you know why virtuosa is whatever

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logos won't help this case

vital arrow
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Arturia isnt what you pick

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Shes terribad at damage

summer copper
vital arrow
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Her job is to bypass def and res

near folio
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Though the fact that Virtuosa can output 24k aoe "true" damage by herself is already pretty impressive

vital arrow
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Which 99% of genersl content dont need

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Do you know how necrosis fallout works?

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It deals 800 elemental damage per second for 15s

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It needs 15s to deal 12k damage

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Thats terrible

odd swallow
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now I'm starting to get

why Virtuosa is more end-game content

spark sinew
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depends on your definition of end game content

vital arrow
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You wont understand why shes good

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If you havent seen or played high risk CC

spark sinew
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like, are H stages in chapter end game content?

near folio
spark sinew
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(peak difficulty with rewards)
or is max risk CC is (the one that gives no material rewards)

odd swallow
spark sinew
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because virt is whatever in H stages

vital arrow
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H stages isnt that endgame

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Its still a statcheck

near folio
vital arrow
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Pretty sure theres a lot of variant for H stages

near folio
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Its like doing 3x more work with a silverash compared to using Mlynar

vital arrow
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Theyre still endgame

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But its the basic kind of endgame

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You get a harder stage than the boss stage of the chapter

near folio
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But yeah, ever since H8 you actually needed a built E2 roster

vital arrow
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But your ops still have all their stats

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I mean the 'you only need E1 to clear content'

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Is just a meme

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Like what kind of player gets into chapter 8 and have no E2

near folio
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It depends

vital arrow
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Those who intentionally dont do E2
Know what theyre getting into

near folio
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I bring E1 Suzuran into ZT-EX 8 CM and she gets one shot by the boss aoe

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Without Silence alter she cant survive

vital arrow
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Keyword

EX
CM

spark sinew
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what does e1 suzu even do anyway

odd swallow
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lol why would you bring an E1 unit (that is not particularly tanky) into an EX CM

vital arrow
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If I brought kroos to that stage

spark sinew
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seems like a dead weight

near folio
vital arrow
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I wouldnt even think of her surviving any kind of atk

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Suzu doesnt even heal

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You mean sussurro

near folio
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Oh wait wrong character

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Its sussuro

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Oops

odd swallow
scarlet fulcrum
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Sus

summer copper
spark sinew
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unavoidable aoe that is

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you can just bait his attacks

near folio
spark sinew
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ye, so you can just avoid it with positioning šŸ¤”

drowsy jewel
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I mean that's pretty easy to avoid

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Like put some defender or something

near folio
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But luckily Silence alter is a thing

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This was so close

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Few more seconds and my run is over

summer copper
west path
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With a lot of RNG

summer copper
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Walter is just comparatively more easier

spark sinew
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meanwhile walter

summer copper
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That's true

drowsy jewel
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I mean there's always yato

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using mom already

lone shell
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24k aoe is gud wdym

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Who mom?

deft badger
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who is that behind him?

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nvm monster i guess with a skin

peak cloak
tidal sedge
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Bruh

spark sinew
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yato true solo seems terrible to me

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way worse than most ops, actually

deft badger
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the hell is that h13-4, i can't get a good start without leaking xD

vital arrow
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Try borrowing a virtuosa or exalt

deft badger
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i have them but i don't see how they are going to stop them xD lets try anyway

glass monolith
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If you kill amber outside altar there will be no smiles on top. But you will have to cook on your own. I gave up and copied guide idea which use Surtr S3 to kill all amber so there is nothing to revive CeobeConfused

deft badger
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i have 1 leak -.-

west path
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Do you even need 2 medics

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I believe skalter will be more effective than lunmen

tidal sedge
# deft badger

You really need more DPS for sure. Do you have Surtr, Mudrock, ReedAlter?

deft badger
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dude spawns 1000x of those little dudes in the end lol

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i did have other ops with me but i need some more aoe dmg

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this isn't going to work this way lol

west path
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Can chalter do anything

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She’s mid but has decent AOE dmg

tidal sedge
vital arrow
deft badger
deft badger
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i need aoe dmg xD

vital arrow
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Just use arturia and exalt to work on the small stuff

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Like exalt can take care of toplane almost by himself

west path
tidal sedge
west path
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My ops are mid af

tidal sedge
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I only borrowed Surtr, rest I have them

deft badger
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the problem was the end

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skadi was holding him in place but he spawns way to many

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and i did remove typhon for eyja but she was't able to clean all of it

west path
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I won’t clear H stages with this

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Not time effective at all

deft badger
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i maybe bring chongus actually with me for the end

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there are so many of them he will stack up fast and i hope he can keep that place clean till the boss dies

west path
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He will die in an instant

deft badger
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too who

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there are just slugs and the boss

west path
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He only has 2.5k hp at e2 60šŸ’€

tidal sedge
west path
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I mean with Logos we don’t need to care to the slugs and ignore the game mechanic

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Isn’t that great

west path
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Kek

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May try to clear it after the daily mission reset

deft badger
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i failed on top now

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i think thats it...

tidal sedge
scarlet fulcrum
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flexing with skill issue units holy moly

summer copper
deft badger
scarlet fulcrum
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Congrats btw

deft badger
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the hell did i invest all the time and money if its not getting easier at the end of the day

scarlet fulcrum
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Just have fun

deft badger
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"fun" was thinking about leaving the game several times this week after rolling for virtuosa.. 281 pulls -.-

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now i can go ahead and pull +19 times and get my self a skalter still i am mad af

tidal sedge
scarlet fulcrum
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Damn luck issue on mid banner, atleast u could max pot sexas or smt

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Oh yeah u still dreaming for skalter

deft badger
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W, skalter, ntrk, rosmontis i think skalter is the best pick from those 4

odd swallow
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what are good operators to use with Virtuosa?

polar crane
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she's fine alone (not solo stage with her)

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if you really want just suzuran for the sp talent

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she wont buff the element damage

remote perch
# odd swallow what are good operators to use with Virtuosa?

unless you're using s2, she don't really have a good synergy with other units
since elemental dmg can't be increase by anyone atm so she don't really benefit that much from buffers nor debuffers

only her s2 can have some use with other units by allowing her to spread her necro to other enemies faster, good with aoe units

odd swallow
polar crane
odd swallow
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hmmm
not really impressed by her atm

polar crane
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she should impress you when cc1

odd swallow
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judging from what my friend said on anothee channel

her cc1.2 performance is because of certain circumstances that made her the only good option left

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btw if you can pm me a link to a video of her in cc1.2 I would be happy to watch it

west path
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How da f can newbie kill this thing

odd swallow
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throught waiting a long time till hp hit 0

west path
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I must wait for 4m with those ops šŸ’€

odd swallow
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send some bombs too then burst him while he is under effect

west path
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What bomb?

remote perch
west path
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We can do that?

dapper hedge
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Yes

west path
remote perch
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its literally in his description

summer copper
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Another example of not reading any mechanisms

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I thought newbies are more willing to look at the mechanisms before seeking for help?

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Since they don't have many strong ops

spark sinew
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although ig vitruosa is less bad than usual due to ch13

near folio
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Helping people classify mechanics into needed to be aware or not aware of it is important too

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Especially for newbies who have to do micro heavy runs if low rarity and levels

summer copper
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Oh ye
I forgot
They put a whole essay to describe smth like aspd+70

near folio
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Truly an arknights moment

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Even I myself question how newbies can beat Cliff from the jessica event in the EX stages

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Especially if they refuse to use support units

fading wagon
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anyone have strategy for Lungmen Downtown? This are my units but everything goes downhill after 350 mark.

near folio
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Even with a few good E2s one slip up and he can snowball and destroy your entire defense

spark sinew
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never understood refusing to use support units

near folio
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Its not easy to find a full afk setup by yourself

summer copper
fading wagon
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around the middle?

summer copper
near folio
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Either top or bottom facing up or down to cover the most space

fading wagon
near folio
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Make use of that 4x3 range to the fullest

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Usually I prefer covering Width rather than Length

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Since that maximises the range of my operators

fading wagon
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i see tq

ashen token
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Is it just me or did anyone else find this event CM easier than usual?

dapper hedge
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Ya, ex-8 feels like a joke tbh

ashen token
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i think if it was quicker with the last waves it could be a pretty decent stage

summer copper
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I saw u got silverash so I just used it

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since its easier to control than lapp s2

odd swallow
summer copper
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will be surprised if he did it in adverse

odd swallow
summer copper
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it is lmao

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keeps reviving

odd swallow
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keeps reviving

wait he does?

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or are you talking about the elites that are more annoying than him lol

summer copper
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no\

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the worms

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laggy

fading wagon
odd swallow
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oh the worms I didn't have a problem with

free health for exalter and free damage for reed alter lol

summer copper
odd swallow
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tbf Lungmen Downtown us kinda hard cuz there is no chokepoints

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by the time you reach 350+

all the drones go everywhere

fading wagon
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because exu gives buff to random unit

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so wanna give thorns that buff if possible

summer copper
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Cz that makes thorns hard to get sp

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Put exu down after thorn skill opens 2nd time

fading wagon
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kk

summer copper
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Most of the ops are replaceable fr
Except thorns

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@fading wagon

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It is fine if u leak the hammer guy on the upper most line at 356 kills
It will go to thorns
Anyways just ask anything if u don't understand

leaden raven
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whats the opp that does not consume deployment slots in a certain chapter?

summer copper
near folio
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Or are you talking about NTRK?

leaden raven
leaden raven
sly pivot
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its dagda

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🫔

leaden raven
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hmm im guessing it was for an earlier chapter then

leaden raven
sly pivot
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i mean morgan

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ā˜ ļøā˜ ļø

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the brown one

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but yea

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dagdas 11

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morgans 12

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heidis 10

summer copper
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Ye
Her 2nd talent

leaden raven
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does the caster from 13 have the same trait?

sly pivot
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no

leaden raven
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sad

sly pivot
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all the welfares have different chapter talents

leaden raven
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so she has a specialty in 13?

sly pivot
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morgan has 0 rdp, dagda has heal on hit heidi is sp recovery+

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yea delphines get an extra attack in ch13

leaden raven
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aight

sly pivot
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and deal more dmg or smth

fading wagon
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@summer copper thank you so much man, thx to you I did it but unfortunately i I fucked up 1 unit when placing down but still i can full clear it thanks to your strat

leaden raven
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i guess imma e2 her then

summer copper
sly pivot
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shes fine but not exactly a worthwhile raise 🫔

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well games easy as is

summer copper
sly pivot
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also delphine talent doesnt work in h stages

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just as a disclaimer

leaden raven
dapper hedge
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Morgan+siege good for base šŸ‘

leaden raven
summer copper
sly pivot
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i was also surprised when i saw that it didnt work in h stage

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maybe its fixed now i dunno

leaden raven
sly pivot
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is have alot of materials

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🫔

summer copper
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At least
Her E2 skin is cool af

summer copper
leaden raven
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i think is is the most grindy and repetitive thing in arknights, or i just havent played it right

summer copper
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Idk maybe

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I find it very interesting

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Play is in spare time if I'm not going to play other games

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But instantly rage quit when no typhon E2 at the start

leaden raven
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understandable, i wouldnt play without texalter or yatoalter anymore

west path
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One of the best stages in the game

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Hard but not annoying

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Completely contrast to H13-2

latent monolith
halcyon adder
modern copper
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Help for 3_4 the massive waves of the big guys with the axes decimate everything

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I'm not a cuora haver

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I can barely even start anymore

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The rush of enemies at the start kills my ponci

spark sinew
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get yourself some art damage dealers
like steward or amiya
you can remove one/2 of your 3 vanguards (and none of them are chargers)

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no Spot or other defender?

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oh ig bassline

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vanguards are actually not good to open stages with (not the ones you have), since they're fragile enough and won't print dp in time

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opening with like 2 snipers overlooking the lanes or something like beagle is better, depending

modern copper
modern copper
modern copper
spark sinew
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yeah click is great

narrow patrol
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Click is amazing. Especially@once at e1

scarlet fulcrum
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Cause most sarkaz and butcher weak to phys. tho doesnt mean arts doesnt work yeah

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Damn the wording weird whatever

spark sinew
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i figured that at such low levels your physical damage would be mediocre at best

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although yeah, pinecone is basically solo dps there and she also kills the slugs (which non aoe chars won't)

scarlet fulcrum
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The low lv use stall anyway, well pinecone exist now

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I think catapult version exist, tho catapult added on pool late

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Oh wait nvm she is same year

spark sinew
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yeah just deploying defenders + like aoe caster is insanely op in early chapters

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basically nothing can go through

scarlet fulcrum
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Should be fine yeah, they have enough phys anyway. The main problem is militant on early. even weak Arts good on them technically

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another option, just brainded borrow to unlock keel then focus on event

spark sinew
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true i just wanted a hands-on demonstration on why vanguards are bad

scarlet fulcrum
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DocSmile technically yeah, early chapter too lenient anyway (more like story mode in general). Corne the best vg fr

narrow patrol
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For progressing story t#you think I can replace Kroos with@May eventually or no need? (Chapter 5)

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Usually I got gravel in Myrtle’s stead for maps where I need her to bait something or Fang to help as an early tank

spark sinew
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no need

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i would rather level the rest of the squad

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(or use may as a third sniper but ehhh)

spice mortar
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Why use courier if you have ines?

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And myrtle

spark sinew
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yeah cut myrtle

narrow patrol
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Early game blocker

spice mortar
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Hm arent there better blockers than courier in that case?

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The dp gen is a bit overkill and there are other units with more suitable skills to be blockers

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Better stats too

spark sinew
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as long as those "better blockers" is not ponci

spice mortar
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Ponci wife

spark sinew
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sad

spice mortar
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Ponci is very useable

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But not early game friendly

spark sinew
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non 6* pioneers are about the same

halcyon adder
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No

spark sinew
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ponci doesn't get better later on

halcyon adder
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Ponci has ridiculously garbage dp gen

spice mortar
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I will m6 her and she will be used

halcyon adder
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Might as well use a defender

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Won't be any different

narrow patrol
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With gummy

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I’d probably put Mlynar in Myrtle’s slot once I do get him after arturia’s banner ends

spice mortar
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He has gummy in the roster

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Oh wait its you

narrow patrol
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I’ll

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Lol

spice mortar
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Fair

carmine cedar
spark sinew
narrow patrol
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Well cept I don’t have a lot of@good defenders aside from spot and beagle… and Gummy. The only other defenders I got aside from noire are Cement and Matterhorn

carmine cedar
# narrow patrol She*

I'm really glad you corrected the gender of a fictional character totally epic and valuable use of your time

narrow patrol
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No I do NOT have Cuora

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Was hoping cuora would come home from the free pulls for Arturia but no dice

deft badger
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what are u even doing?

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u have a e2 so u can just borrow till jt8

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and u can e2 chetto, click, ines, gummy for now, u could do couple of them now, clear that event shop and do IS monthly squads for the mats

spark sinew
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good to know

deft badger
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since u are here what do i do with her..

spark sinew
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hi, i'm new

deft badger
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i have to craft till it stack up but what do i do then?

glass monolith
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Then craft whatever you want to guarantee produce

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Chip converts / t4 material

deft badger
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ok ty, hauck useless like always...

glass monolith
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And if natural 10% byprod trigger then you keep stack which is awesome

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Like one of P2W consumeable items for crafting in shitty korean MMOs

spark sinew
deft badger
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hahahaha

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go away troll

modern copper
#

So the Gunners and the drones targeted my casters

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Which is bad

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And I couldn't really place silence in time to get heal

spark sinew
#

oh yeah that's a problem
i assume you used bushes for the snipers, so it's casters that are getting targetted

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you can go defender left side - pioneer (2 block vang right side) and deploy your dps/healers

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then when you're done, you deploy another defender

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so enemies in range of it would target it

modern copper
#

Oh that makes sense

turbid badge
wintry hinge
#

My 10-17 strategy idea
DocSmile BlitzSmile

pure pasture
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Does anything seem weird with this team. I've used it before for Annihilation but I don't remember using amiya on. I'm gonna use it for long spring waste

modern plover
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Is it the map with sandstorm?

latent anvil
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Ye

modern plover
#

Cmonbruh

pure pasture
wintry hinge
pure pasture
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U know what screw it amiya can just be there for now.

modern plover
modern plover
pure pasture
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@modern plover this was the original placement plan someone suggested to me.

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The image is small so sorry in advance

modern plover
# wintry hinge Why?

There is no reason to clump lumen, typhon, mountain, mlynar, and saria together
Kal placement is prob gonna kill her
Idk if mudrock can survive

wintry hinge
modern plover
pure pasture
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Well the guy who mentioned this setup said with the proper pluma I'd wipe like 80%

modern plover
glass monolith
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I am afraid typhon will screw you over by triggering stupid afterimage dude outside La Pluma S1 (It is S1, right?) range

pure pasture
modern plover
pure pasture
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@glass monolith this is pluma I'm using

wintry hinge
atomic mist
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ok so im completly new to this game and have no idea what im doing, and i am 100% unable to get past stage 2-3, what is the best lineup i can use? (Dont ask technical questions, i have no idea wht im doing)

wintry hinge
modern plover
#

Also which 3 block aggro the cannon? Mon3tr?

wintry hinge
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so shed get the most aggro

modern plover
#

Actual baller Bnuuy
I suppose your mud is e2 90

wintry hinge
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and get all module stages

modern plover
#

Means pretty brave
Cause thats where most enemy spawns
And she will get necrosis damage there as well

wintry hinge
spark sinew
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why would you do mud 90 just for it

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also isn't this a normal stage, not even adverse

wintry hinge
keen onyx
#

Any tips for pass ZT-EX-8?? ;; This is my team rn

spark sinew
#

idk, just do it
i think e2 90ing mud is overkill probably won't help as well

somber stone
wintry hinge
somber stone
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All the way back there?

spark sinew
wintry hinge
#

Does Saria lvl70 have +3100 hp?

spark sinew
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make sure to bait teleport

somber stone
#

I remember hearing yato s3 solo

spark sinew
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well lvl60 probably doesn't

somber stone
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60 survives

wintry hinge
spark sinew
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but yeah stage is very slow, the main issue arises if you can't teleport

somber stone
#

At least mine did

spark sinew
spare reef
plucky osprey
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i dunno how you guys do it but I still can't beat zt10

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I can beat his phase 1 but not 2

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2 is when he starts wiping my units like nothing

glass monolith
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Because he attacks globally and splash into 3x3

plucky osprey
glass monolith
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Also he take damage only from deployable thingy and butt stabs

plucky osprey
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this is the team I was working with

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I hit the ball on phase 2 like a mad man but my ops died one by one

glass monolith
#

Try medics
... You remember to remove his mark, right?

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Also on Zt-10 thingy which shoots after ball is hit don't look on boss like half of time

plucky osprey
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i followed this vid but idk what im doing different

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I deployed everyone with tight timing like the vid but idk, just not working

plucky osprey
#

third day of attempting zt 10

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but yeah, idk, starting to lose hope that ill beat this before event ends. I want the chair so bad

glass monolith
#

He nukes phase 2 boss by using music switch right before boss lock them to abuse like 20 seconds of hyper attack speed

wide sail
#

copying ILA is crazy

plucky osprey
#

dunno how ill do it

plucky osprey
thin nova
#

what units u got anyway gamer

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I love amiya = ILA

plucky osprey
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actually

thin nova
#

wat

thin nova
plucky osprey
#

updated

thin nova
#

phooh yeah

plucky osprey
thin nova
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okay so clear it by borrowing a bosskiller

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nearl the radiant knight/surtr/skadi

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skadi i'd prefer here in this case

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coz shorter respawn window

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so u can just slowly whittle him down

plucky osprey
#

i cant borrow e2 units btw

thin nova
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ah right

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oof

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i mean silence + ng is nice

plucky osprey
#

ppl seem to forgor that lol

thin nova
#

your only real bosskiller here is texas alter

plucky osprey
#

i think silence's s1 would work better here

thin nova
#

why not use both medics

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i always use 2 medics each run

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or 1 medic one bard

plucky osprey
#

nono i meant s1 vs s2

thin nova
#

ah

plucky osprey
#

for silence

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obv ill use both

wide sail
#

where do you die

plucky osprey
#

phase 2

thin nova
#

good question^ what is the reason you lose

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cant kill boss? or leaks?

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or does boss kill someone?

wide sail
#

do u kill the chain thing

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that the boss still spawns on ur units

plucky osprey
#

boss kills me. the moment he go to phase 2, I use bsll

plucky osprey
wide sail
#

if u burst the ball with all skills surely that shreds pretty hard

plucky osprey
#

ik i need low cost low cd units

wide sail
#

texas and some other can bait tp

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like vanguard or someone else useless

thin nova
#

phase 2 got that annoying shield

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so need to place someone behind

wide sail
#

ball avoids shield

thin nova
#

while boss also teleports them every x% of health lost

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ah right

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*ball

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can bait teleport with FRD

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it teleports the 2 last deployed units

plucky osprey
#

yeah that ik

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i spawn robots as bait

plucky osprey
summer copper
crimson wolf
#

Honestly, I build my Mlynar just because of ZT-10 xD

summer copper
#

Fr

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Very rare for me to feel a desperate need of mlynar in any levels

plucky osprey
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not even with 2 healers

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maybe i should give up on this event and hope for a rerun

peak cloak
#

man

worldly stirrup
#

Oh wait. Is this normal stage?
I thought it was EX

dark glade
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I see full e1

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I see full despairge

plucky osprey
worldly stirrup
tidal sedge
#

Hello

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I could use some help

odd swallow
# plucky osprey

I remembered fumbling on this boss fight and still winning because the boss mechanics were so wierd

cursive nebula
#

where should i put typhon here

rocky kelp
#

completely depends on how aggresively your other ops can kill the drones

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normally I have reedalt s3, mlynar, degen etc to murder all the drones, in which case you can place her facing the right to spawnkill the red box

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if you are relying on her to kill the drones tho, she is likely to die if you place her there, so instead I would place her higher up on either side and facing down

peak cloak
cursive nebula
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face right/left?

peak cloak
#

corner spots ,face down
mid high tiles, depend on where u put her

peak cloak
tidal sedge
#

I've been stuck on 2-10 for a while and I can't get past the flying enemies

peak cloak
#

and add a ? for the next time u ask.

tidal sedge
#

Mb

peak cloak
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2-10? show your ops

tidal sedge
#

I recently changed my team

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Original I had 3ranged

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And just one dps guy along with the triangle one

peak cloak
#

can you raise Kroos?

tidal sedge
#

She's already got her thing

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Most I had maxed

peak cloak
#

and Amiya caster?

tidal sedge
#

Oh

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Nope

peak cloak
#

@tidal sedge lastly, how about Fang and other medic?

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Chesnut is not needed so i recommend u dig him out

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replace him with either Ansel or Sussurro

near folio
tidal sedge
#

Ok :/

peak cloak
near folio
#

Nvm he has noir corne

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I assume noir is holding top right?

tidal sedge
#

What I've been doing

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Or at least tryna

near folio
#

You have 8 slots, 1 being used for caster lane, 3 for right side and 4 for left side

near folio
#

Also did u get a 6 star yet?

tidal sedge
#

I'm not able to check rn

near folio
tidal sedge
#

It might have

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As I said I'm unable to check rn

peak cloak
#

lets me know if u had dp issue

tidal sedge
#

What I've been doing for it, I place down one of my dps ops to stop some while I build my dp up then put range and defense but this seems more better, I have those ops too

peak cloak
tidal sedge
#

No I can't get on the game

old arch
#

Hi guys. Hmm.

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Does the Aspect of Creation have an attack speed cap?

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I guess what I mean is, if I have someone hit it really fast, would it shoot really fast too?

civic bear
#

it shots every 0.5s if it does take damage within those

old arch
#

Oh okay thank you!

civic bear
#

it just cumulate every damage it takes every 0.5s

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and turn it into 1 big hit

old arch
#

I'm wondering how to take down the Witch King's P2 on ZT-10.

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And I'm thinking of either hitting it really fast, or really hard...

civic bear
#

raw dps is king

old arch
#

Oh nono, but that's just a musing.

civic bear
#

cuz ith as 0 def

old arch
#

Yep.

civic bear
#

like exu hits 750~ per hit x5
so she's doing 4k within the timeframe so its a 4k shot

tidal sedge
modern copper
#

How am I even supposed to open off 3-5

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I don't get enough of a good choke point spot

tidal sedge
#

How good does Gnosis in a nutshell?

tidal sedge
#

Remove Shaw, you don't need Shaw in the team just yet

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And Jaye, don't bring Jaye just yet

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You need 1 or 2 more vanguards

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Raise their skills to level 7 but if you don't e1, level 4 still fine

tidal sedge
# modern copper

You also have to raise your casters and snipers since 3-5 is very crowded

old arch
#

Hmmm.

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ZT-10 makes me sad..

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How stallable is the boss?

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Meaning, like, will he do his explosion after all of the mobs have gone through?

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Or some time during. I'm wondering if I can just focus on keeping them off my objective first, and once it's 42/43, then I'll kill him with the Aspect.

tidal sedge
old arch
#

Yeah. I've accounted for that. FiaDed

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Hmm.

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Does he also do the teleportation in P2, 50%?

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Or only P1 50% and P1 -> P2.

tidal sedge
old arch
#

Oh god.

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No.

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That's fine.

tidal sedge
#

But it's just one time

old arch
#

My main issue atm is like.

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I want to focus enough damage on the Aspect.

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But all my ops lock in and it literally leaves me with no dps elsewhere...

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Hmm.

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But if I don't, then the Aspect doesn't do nearly enough damage.

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To kill P2.

tidal sedge
#

That's why fast redeploy exist, because the boss will always target the last ops placed

old arch
#

Nono.

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I mean, I want to kill the boss, but the thing is, all the enemies swarm my tank.

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My issue isn't the boss, but the mobs lol. I'm wondering how to balance killing mobs with taking the boss down via Aspect.

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So I was wondering how much time I had before the boss explodes.

old arch
#

Hmm.

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I did think about that but my only good one is aoe caster lol. FiaDed And these guys have decent res. Maybe I'll try again.

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Hmm.

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Maybe it'll be enough anyway actually.

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Okay sec.

tidal sedge
#

More snipers also a good idea

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Aoe guards also exist

summer copper
tidal sedge
#

Any strategy for defeating the boss in zt-10?

peak cloak
grave thistle
vague dock
#

Is the teleport of

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The boss on zt-ex-8 random

#

He keeps teleporting my guard even though he was the first on the map

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And there’s 2 ops aside from him on the map

glass monolith
#

Mlynar taunts

summer copper
#

But some ops get a status of "more likely to be attacked"

scarlet fulcrum
#

The said suspect must be mlynar

upbeat zephyr
upbeat zephyr
glass monolith
peak cloak
#

prts map, in short

merry narwhal
upbeat zephyr
peak cloak
#

that's lots of effort and the web is working so well for now, no needs.

vague dock
peak cloak
upbeat zephyr
#

And leave chrome and back game again

vital arrow
#

I mean most games dont do map simulations

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Because they want unexpected factors

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Thats why people make these sites

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For people who want to study the stage

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Not to mention you can like

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Pause the game

peak cloak
#

and to maintain the memory space that game takes...

smoky halo
#

@wicked viper leaking still counts for 400 YA

#

wait im in the wrong channel kekw

upbeat zephyr
vital arrow
#

Theres a map preview

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Thats enough for most players

upbeat zephyr
#

I know but it does nothing like classic

vital arrow
#

The map preview is enough for 5 years

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Adding more would just add clutter to the game

#

That no one would actually use

scarlet fulcrum
#

More than enough for normal human tbh, practice also exist

vital arrow
#

Also this ^

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You get 30 free trials per day

upbeat zephyr
vital arrow
#

Then youve played enough without it

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Adding it wouldnt change anything

upbeat zephyr
#

Yeah I imagined it wasn't pretty not useful wait we forgot something like the plans stage isn't? Lol I'm pretty stupid

vital arrow
#

?

scarlet fulcrum
#

Practice plans yea

upbeat zephyr
#

Yeah practice plans

latent monolith
#

Iirc from the walter event onwards CMs only cost 1 sanity on loss

#

Or was it just H stages

upbeat zephyr
#

Yeah I remember that event

vital arrow
#

CM

latent monolith
#

Or am I hallucinating

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ok good

vital arrow
#

Walter event isnt even here

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How do you remember that event

upbeat zephyr
#

I mean different events that cost 0 sanity stages

vital arrow
#

Only OF has that

latent monolith
#

That's not related to what I said

upbeat zephyr
#

Yeah OF

vital arrow
#

Also thats unrelated to what they said yeah

upbeat zephyr
#

Anyways guys have seen the spoiler of chapter 14?

latent monolith
#

You're not allowed to discuss it here

scarlet fulcrum
latent monolith
upbeat zephyr
vital arrow
#

Its unrelated to stage or gameplay

upbeat zephyr
#

Maybe

latent monolith
#

I mean if it's not over they can continue if it is over they can always make a part 4

#

This is already part 3

scarlet fulcrum
#

Still not here yes

latent monolith
#

Or is chapter 14 already a new "part"

#

I heard you can do it after chapter 3

vital arrow
upbeat zephyr
vital arrow
#

Chapter 1 is doable after 1-10

summer copper
latent monolith
#

Oh after 1

vital arrow
#

Only during event period

#

After its done

#

Only after chapter 13

latent monolith
#

That makes more sense

glass monolith
latent monolith
#

Are there any new materials in ch14

vital arrow
#

No

upbeat zephyr
deft badger
#

is it just a story entry? i didn't get any reward for that one

vital arrow
#

You get lore

bright stone
#

i have sniper, survival, debuff and dps tags, would it be better to go for jessica or go with the debuff tag?
my jessica is pot 5, meteor is pot 2, haze is pot 6, shamare is pot 1, and i dont have the rest

shell arch
#

Just get goldcert if possible

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Maxpot everyone

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It takes time

bright stone
#

aight, thanks

shell arch
#

Realistically, any of those dupes don't matter except for their goldcerts

#

Just don't skip non-obvious tags like supporter survival, defender survival, etc

scarlet fulcrum
#

Guard defense, aoe dps

bright stone
#

yep, im doing the ak toolbox thing every time lol

scarlet fulcrum
#

Respect

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My meele debuff only success once

glass monolith
deft badger
#

i didn't read it but nice to know lol

deft badger
#

how did they plan for us to get that one RedOmegaLul

ivory leaf
#

Is it worth to M3 virt S3?

#

(at M2 but kinda thinking if it's worth it cuz of the 6 bipolar wahahah)

deft badger
#

can do but its not a must
stats + duration... necrosis trigger is caped at 1000 and 2000 for bosses so nothing changes there

ivory leaf
#

Alright guess I'll just E2 penance

narrow patrol
#

This one went well…. Mlynar on bottom made all the difference for handling that one defense crusher that punches through Botlane once I had to evacuate Shaw

spark sinew
#

it's her best skill, so take that as you will

narrow patrol
#

That’s all 3 perma anni’s down….. maybe il slowly I clear the other anni’s once I get a few more e2’s might be able to e2 Ines but man I’m gonna take a hit to my LMD for it

ivory leaf
#

I'm too broke to afford 6

spark sinew
#

you didn't look it up before you decided to go for m3?

summer copper
vital arrow
#

It might be detrimental if youre against bosses

ivory leaf
summer copper
spark sinew
#

how so

summer copper
#

Why M3 virt in first place
She's not good even for some old players

spark sinew
#

faster proc = better

summer copper
spark sinew
#

i'd argue she's good for all old players as well

ivory leaf
#

Cough cough

spark sinew
#

people who can't afford 6 flakes aren't old šŸƒā€ā™‚ļø

vital arrow
#

So for bosses

#

She takes around 10 secs to proc necrosis

ivory leaf
#

Either way I'm still new so I still have a lot to learn

summer copper
spark sinew
#

cc1 says hello

vital arrow
#

Ig M2 still works since it goes to 9.09 from 9.75

spark sinew
#

how long is the necrosis fall off

vital arrow
#

15s

#

That is assuming max level arturia

deft badger
opal kiln
spark sinew
#

ah, so just the threshold for 2 procs

#

i don't really see how it's worse though, lemme check if duration of the skill increases

summer copper
vital arrow
#

It increases by 2s

spark sinew
#

fair concern then

#

although this also assume no attack debuff etc

vital arrow
#

Assumes max lv max trust arturia

#

Vs 2k necrosis bar

spark sinew
#

so say if you take -atk tag in cc, it's useless for example

#

cause you can't double proc during skill

vital arrow
#

Depends on the atk debuff

#

But yes you can go from 2 proc per skill to 1

#

In most high risk youre going to 1 proc per skill anyways

#

But it affects how fast it procs

spark sinew
#

or if you need to delay the skill activation to proc necrosis on another guy

#

i remember talk about arturia p5

vital arrow
#

Thats for s1m3

spark sinew
#

and this was the case in one of the CCs

#

no, like you needed to activate s3 later on so you will proc necrosis on the another enemy that will go into your range

vital arrow
#

Oh the skill timing

spark sinew
#

i figured i probably misremembered a bit i did

vital arrow
#

Oh the offskill one

#

Cursed

spark sinew
#

i wonder if even on pleb risk my lvl60 arturia can't double proc

#

ig i can raise her to 90 very quickly LappDumb

halcyon adder
#

I think ako undermines virtuosa a lot

spark sinew
#

ako undermines any new character

#

exec is just a "laneholder"
typhon was somehow compared to ray in attempt to undermine thorns 2.0
virtuosa is "irrelevant"
degen will be "chen 2.0, skip"

ivory leaf
#

Waht

#

Already M3 her

#

Joking alright

#

What about S2?