strategy

[civic bear]

and thorns

[bold lance]

Neither of which fit what I've described

[civic bear]

amiya

[bold lance]

Amiya can work

[civic bear]

bro dont have much

[tepid leaf]

surtr s2

[bold lance]

That does actually work

Surtr s2 isn't bad. It's just not S3.

[narrow patrol]

Mlynar can cheese ani2?

[civic bear]

anni2??

overkill

better off with more consistent dps

i swear the typhon borrow is only like 1 dps off

[tepid leaf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6G4m9lwyiU is this possible for me?

[peak cloak]

question, do u have ifrit?

she is the core one

if not then follow Kyo guide.
Ifrit and the stalling center.

[serene umbra]

hi, I got bassline today, he's good ? it's a defender

also viviana is worth to build ?

[polar crane]

nearl sidegrade
dont build if you have saria

[polar crane]

bad unit but you can build her if new

[serene umbra]

I don't have saria

oh

i play since two years

[polar crane]

ground unit that deal art is rare early

then you can ignore her

[serene umbra]

i thought viviana was strong rip

[polar crane]

or e2 for base/art like me

[serene umbra]

ooh

well her design is pretty

none of her skills are good ?

[polar crane]

s3 is the skill if you want to use her

just not good enough in the current meta

[serene umbra]

oh okay :0

[tepid leaf]

i can lend probably!

[vital arrow]

You mean borrow

[tepid leaf]

oh yeah borrow i mean

1 am brain

[neat skiff]

If Surtr didn't exist then Viviana would be considered pretty good. If her shields were less conditional then even better.
Sadly Surtr does exist and her shields do have the melee attack condition and a low proc chance off-skill.
Viviana can also be pretty good if you can deploy her behind a defender since her S1 and S3 both have range extensions.

Which in the current level of enemy stat creep enemies blocked by defenders with 1 or more healers is more and more common.

[neat skiff]

The biggest problem with the whole archetype is "I only have 1 tile attack range but do not want enemies to ever touch me". Surtr gets around that by literal godmode and Mousse has a hefty attack reduction.

Viviana gets around it by having a 3 tile attack range on 2 of her skills.

[wild quarry]

can virtuosa give herself the buffs on her s3 if there are no allies in range?

[neat skiff]

Nope. Gaslit myself for a sec when getting screenshots.

[verbal sparrow]

surtr s3 will always have a matter of downtime
which is not a very big downside because very rarely do we get constant high pressure maps (or multi-lane presure), but it does leave the tiniest bit of room for options that can offer more uptime
it would be very very situational to need vivi on top of surtr (no ranged tiles, surtr and texas alter already spent)

in fact if we combine surtr and texas alter, is there even any room left ?

[neat skiff]

Actually, using the Surtr example Vivi is more suited to situations where Surtr S2 would be good.

Range extension and is meant to stay on the field instead of "ton of damage then byebye"

If Vivi was around for dossoles holiday she would be considered a god.

[verbal sparrow]

Surtr S2 doesn't have as high dps as vivi s3, does it?

[neat skiff]

Nope.

[crisp bolt]

surtr s2

[neat skiff]

The joys of Surtr S3 being so cracked where her S2 that made arts fighters not named Amiya redundant already is "bad".

And even Amiya was "I'm here for the buff I give 85% of the time. I get deployed so I never even attack enemies".

50% uptime. Astesia and Sideroca wish they had that.

[heady sphinx]

I feel I should also point out that Surtr talent also gives her res ignore, so even if vivi can do damage equal to surtr || this is a hypotethical, I didn't run the numbers yet, don't crucify me|| she still can't compete with surtr because surtr will just do more damage then vivi when enemies have just a little bit of arts res.

Surtr really does just make everyone in her subclass irrelevant

[verbal sparrow]

eveyrone has been saying that
just give vivi res shred module

[neat skiff]

Surtr S3 does.

The main problem is "every new op needs to work alone." Like her showcases very rarely gave her a healer, she was lucky to get a healing tile. Then the range extension was barely used.

Blaze commonly operates over walls, Vivi has an even easier time with it.

Ahh well, it is what it is.

[serene umbra]

Ooh I see

I don't have Surtr but I can bring her as a support

[neat skiff]

You may as well try using her. Her S1 is pretty potent for early on. E0L50 S1L4 is 2 or 3 hits of 778 arts damage.

Though that is with trust.

[narrow patrol]

Viviana is decent early game at least

There’s not a lot of enemies that actually even resist arts

[lapis hornet]

she has the block 1 problem

I don't think she would be very good even without surtr

[neat skiff]

Her problem is her archetype.

Easiest way around it is to use the range extension on her S1 and S3. Lot of damage from behind a wall or a defender.

[lapis hornet]

archetype doesn't mean much you can compensate with kit

she feels like a souped up 5* kinda, like too honest a unit in a land of broken stuff

[narrow patrol]

Kinda wish she kept her nuke

[glass monolith]

1 block was blessing to stall those stoopid whip dudes of chapter 13 and viviana fits perfecly change my mind

[neat skiff]

All arts fighters are pretty meh except for "literal godmode and +330% atk". That is less "compensate with kit like Mountain" and more "throw enough stats until people don't care".

Same as duelist defenders.

[glass monolith]

I DON'T HAVE F- DP TO DUELIST THEM

My game style of who need optimization and planning cause me to bring CC tier of DP printer on half of chapter 13

[neat skiff]

But yeah, throw Viviana behind a wall or defender and use her 3 tile range to deal her high damage. Arts fighters suck at holding enemies still, fragile as hell and a medic is basically mandatory.

[lapis hornet]

she has defense mechanics

feels like she's meant to duel elites or smth

[neat skiff]

Her defense mechanics are too conditional and off skill very hard to generate.

[lapis hornet]

like if you gotta put someone behind a shield it's gotta be chungus/mlynar level of dps right, strictly comparing to what's out there

like ofc she's usable she's a 6*

feels like she's missing something is all

[neat skiff]

Res ignore.

She is a multi hit unit, even small amounts of res hurt.

[glass monolith]

If enemy has Res i have reason to use S2M3 Haze.

[neat skiff]

Vivi would love to deal her full 2686 dps (1567 x3 for 4701 every 1.75 seconds) but res causes it to plummet.

Wait, didn't count her talent.

Non elite is 1634 attack. 3 hits is 4902, dps is 2801
Elite 1686 atk, 3 hits is 5058, dps is 2890

[rocky kelp]

your math is wrong

her dps should be around 3.1k

[neat skiff]

Oh damnit. Her talent says +atk% but it's actually atk%

[rocky kelp]

its considered dmg aplification ye

[neat skiff]

Either way pretty good damage in an archetype known to be squishy and her ability to hold enemies have too many conditions attached to it.

[narrow patrol]

It is. Her conditionals@depend on her fighting elites 1v1…. Which while it does kinda suck in practice makes sense given her background as a competition knight

[neat skiff]

Given her background she is at her deadliest at range.

[lapis hornet]

her kit's just totally unexpected after her boss version

[neat skiff]

I can't wait to see peoples reaction to Harold.

[narrow patrol]

Which is a shame.
Kinda@wish@she kept her AoE Nuke

[rocky kelp]

i still think he is the hardest boss

event boss

[neat skiff]

Boss = phalanx that is cold focused with a TON of status effects.
Operator = wandering medic who heals elemental damage.

[vivid rain]

The witch king guy?

[rocky kelp]

no, harold

[neat skiff]

Harold.

Dude has some delightful mechanics that basically kills everyone deployed.

That he uses multiple times.

Also, it's a farming stage.

[vivid rain]

Ah

He truly harold’d all over the place

[neat skiff]

The event has a mechanic. When Harold does a specific big range attack, each mechanic not currently satisfied = another of the same attack right after.

Fully satisfied? 1 attack. Fully failed? 5 attacks.

[rocky kelp]

I veiw it like lone trail

except instead of needing to break the balls with texalt

you need 5 snipers

and they also need to stay on the map and take deployment space

[neat skiff]

Isn't the boss stage 2 of them are melee?

Yeah, 2 melee, 2 ranged.

[rocky kelp]

it doesnt matter if they are melee, because you want to be inside the range of one, and hit another from that range

so you need more range than most melee ops have

[neat skiff]

Either way it be spicy.

I can't wait.

[hidden light]

how to beat the witchking guy

the HH Boss in ZT-10 iirc

[scarlet mortar]

res isn't like def, multiple arts hits doesn't matter

look at eyja S3 and ceobe S2

it's just the numbers

[scarlet fulcrum]

Use ball machine on him, rapid fire ops gud for this

Or just any short interval ops tbh

[narrow patrol]

So machine gun him to death. Got it

[tribal verge]

Does anyone know of any super cool clears of the event boss?

Like using the teleport to your advantage

[rough wedge]

What happens when a Sarkaz Wither Devourer encounters Jessica's deployable shield?

[strange fable]

they eat the shield

it goes on the normal cooldown

its not gone forever, if thats what you were wondering

[remote perch]

what if the tactiacian summon

[strange fable]

idk lemme test

my prediction is that it just revives again later

yeah it just dies, but then comes back later

[remote perch]

[peak cloak]

@tepid leaf round 2?

[tepid leaf]

im not available rn sryy maybe in 4-5 hours?

[peak cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/burt-lancaster-salute-saluting-run-silent-run-deep-gif-26186364

[rough sigil]

So what's the easiest way to cheese ZT-10?

Typhon? Red woman?

[remote perch]

just borrow a mlynar to kill the waves then use the Aspect of Annihilation to kill the boss

[neat skiff]

Borrow a maxed out Exu and look up a guide. She deals with enemies and the boss about 85% on her own.

[peak cloak]

abuse the mechanic.

[neat skiff]

Yeah, the mechanic in the farming stages is "oh cool, it's a thing". In 10 it's "why is it dealing more damage than my ops?"

[peak cloak]

literally borrow pozy and lets her shoot the core lol, i found out that accidently

completely cheese Witch King

[neat skiff]

Attackers like Exu or blue woman dragon skill that deal many hits make it into a full auto rifle instead of a shot every couple seconds.

I haven't tried a DoT operator (all max trust) but that might be an option as well.

[peak cloak]

dont know why some players even tried so hard in zt 10 while u all have the mechanic to abuse XD

[neat skiff]

Because it's not explained that "lot of little attacks" work best. Especially if you're asking for help with 10 and therefore not in CH 13 yet.

Closest you would have access to is "Oh, stainless is a bad operator. I haven't raised him for his S3".

[glass monolith]

Game has some mechanic some other stuff and then there is me farming DP with Puzzle stabbing blacksound hole

[peak cloak]

perhaps try Tifon s3 in zt 10 🧐

[neat skiff]

Yeah, it's always full health so SP go brrr.

[astral cosmos]

doing Worthlessknights Frostleaf tower rn and im glad I made deviceless ZT-5 work with this
allows me to save so many ops for later

[hidden light]

I'm gonna try to set up chongyue and multiple healers

[halcyon adder]

Dagda is dying

[steady shale]

Honestly, SA/Mlynar, Surtr, NTRK, just place a boss killer behind the boss (his shield in phase 2 only faces to the left) and deal damage till he dies, other than that you just need good healers and landholders for the rest of the enemies and you’re settled, also that energy ball mechanic helps

The time limit is annoying though. Cost me a try before I could clear the stage so it has to be done within a short timeframe

[viscid raft]

Finally beat zt-10, even if you dont have good 6* u just need to shoot the cannon at the boss

[astral cosmos]

yeah, fortunately she's maxed so she can tank one hit from the buffed tuba guys
frostleaf s1 prevents the 1st one from hitting her, but then they can't deal with the last wave, so i had to use s2 to bind the last ones so snowsant could hook them away in time

[scarlet fulcrum]

No need multiple healer, just make sure u use bait for boss's shuffle, chong easily cover multiple lanes yes

[neat skiff]

Shuffle = last 2 deployed operators. Can make for some interesting things if you use executors since they are legit redeployed.

[ivory leaf]

Is caper worth investing?

[neat skiff]

If you're a 4 star player.

[ivory leaf]

Well is she?

[neat skiff]

She has a good archetype but is held back mostly by numbers.

[ivory leaf]

Fair enough I'm investing

[neat skiff]

She is a 4 star who only does damage. 5 and 6 stars will also have damage.

[ivory leaf]

Wait what

You mean she can damage allies?

No?

[neat skiff]

No.

Both her skills are damage only.

Think of her like 3 star Kroos.

[ivory leaf]

Alright

Also

Is the 5 star in red cert shop also a good invest?

Or pass?

Diamante

[neat skiff]

Pass, especially with Logos and his module.

[ivory leaf]

Alright I guess I'm gonna build durnar

[neat skiff]

Primal casters have the problem of they SUCK at applying the status, but they need the status for a significant chunk of their damage.

[ivory leaf]

Alright

[neat skiff]

Eben gets around it by sheer numbers. Ritualists can easily apply it, but already deal decent numbers. Primal are somewhere inbetween, meanwhile Logos has a module that takes his power and says "yes, you're good but what if you had the stuff a primal caster does but stronger".

[shrewd island]

3-8 is too easy with this team (borrowed mlynar lmao)

[merry narwhal]

Primalists are pay-off units. If you don't have anyone to apply the debuff for them, they do just average damage because you have to run their S1. At least Diamante isn't Warmy who doesn't even have a ritualist support to apply the debuff for her. They do "true damage" currently, so you can consider them against high res enemies, but you could also run res shred + regular caster instead

[ivory leaf]

my brain can't handle this much information

Okay nvm understand

[neat skiff]

At least Warmy has the advantage of her talent working with her S1.

[merry narwhal]

same goes for Diamante

[neat skiff]

Burn is 7000 elemental damage instantly then her talent does another hit of 1936. Every 10 seconds.

[merry narwhal]

S1 is when you want to use the unit but don't have a support who can apply the debuff for them. For Warmy this is forced because S2's condition is literally impossible to be met

[neat skiff]

Meanwhile Diamante gets +21% atk if someone already is in fallout.

That's it.

At least both primals + logos module love buffs since the elemental damage is all atk%

[merry narwhal]

once I have time I'll try to do some meming on the event boss with Valarqvin + Diamante

it sounds too fun not to do it, given that the boss has 80% magic resist

[vital arrow]

Eblana will be burn ritualist

[merry narwhal]

ah I forgot to mention that primalists' S1s suck against magic resist because their debuff application scales with post-mitigation damage

[vital arrow]

Trust

Warmy will be good

[merry narwhal]

i sure hope so

[glass monolith]

Summoner who summons Reeds which burn

[vital arrow]

She already has such a big part in the lore, and with that art there's no way shes not playable

[neat skiff]

The same way Viviana is all about fire and Harold is all about cold and freeze.

[merry narwhal]

Vivi is all fire to me 🔥

idk about Harryberry

[vital arrow]

Tbf viviana was stated to dabble in light based arts in NL

Idk why they made her boss play with fire

[neat skiff]

Oh, you will 😄

In CN it was the event after zwillingsturme. In global we will need to wait and see since we skipped il siracusano rerun.

[glass monolith]

Saves Flametail
Hardest opponent Nearl had to face
Follow morale compass over wealth

---

Because 6* Astesia

[neat skiff]

Flametail seems to constantly need saving.

Still my favourite part of the near light PV is when Platinum kicks the dodge queen in the face.

[glass monolith]

Fails to roll dodge every single time for entire plot

[glass monolith]

Also i think that part not even in NL plot at all.
Outside Flametail saying something like "Oh Nearl saved me the other day"

And then in Epilogue Nearl saves entire Pinus club so they make it to RI ship before we multitrack drift the hell away from Kazemier

[neat skiff]

https://youtu.be/K47elku8YdI?t=305 Timestamp.

[high kettle]

is it normal to not be able to get past floor 2 of IS

[glass monolith]

Depends on operators, greed, difficulty

Also meta progression

And a bit of luck

[high kettle]

im on normal diff, heck easy on is4

[high kettle]

think this is my problem i guess

playing on and off made my account hella stinky

i wonder if starting in a new account is probably better

[foggy grove]

what do you have anyhow

failing is normal on unfamiliar map

[glass monolith]

I tried to go for ed4 additional lore in IS3. Took degen curse ate dog and died. d0.

Need to transform to rarity abuse mind set

[high kettle]

#help message

[foggy grove]

lol rerolling is just massive L

just keep trying,borrow some opener if you want like reed

[high kettle]

reed the 5* vg?

[glass monolith]

He means medic 6*

[high kettle]

huh

oh she has a different version, man i missed a lot

[peak cloak]

lol, chat, even I love Amiya abuse the zt 10 mechanic. so yea. use it to walk through, ez.

[glass monolith]

Define abuse

Drop beat drop boss?

[waxen swan]

Beat ur ass ?

[high kettle]

ok found one, how do i use her

shes like, a caster??

[foggy grove]

ye

just fuck around,s2 can't hit air btw

[high kettle]

like drones?

or the upper tile operators

[foggy grove]

flier/drones/etc

[high kettle]

o i promoted her now

should i just use s3

[foggy grove]

up to you
both skill is good

[merry narwhal]

yes, it is normal. Once you learn the maps and see what works, it becomes considerably easier

Incantation medic opener is the goat

[dusty osprey]

Is boss in zt 10 will prioritize mlynar or just 2 last deployed operator?

[glass monolith]

Someone told me he respects targeting rules so focus taunts

[scarlet fulcrum]

Normal targetting

[neat skiff]

He obeys taunt.

Texalter and yalter were the last 2 deployed. Mlynar was 3rd last.

[tired grail]

any tips on how to beat last IS2 stage ? i always end up either leaking phantom or getting overwhelmed by 20+ enemis at one time

[wide sail]

pozy or schwarz eat him alive

[tired grail]

i had schwarz but she got killed before she could deal him dmg, is there a specific tile to place her on ?

[merry narwhal]

leak the first dog and set up a reaper right in front of the red boxes. You can then start setting up ranged dps for the dancers on the right. For Phantom you can bait his teleport with any cheap melee unit once he comes around the corner and used his skill. Then try to burst him down with other dps you set up around your reaper

[wide sail]

if u have crazy burst u can spawnkill him on the right otherwise u want to kill him on top left waitpoint usually

[merry narwhal]

and yes after the dps window in the mid lane you get another chance as he idles top left

he has dodge so Melanite, Pozy, or Kaltsit S3 destroy him

[wide sail]

if u dont have dodge ignore suzu mostima etc can stall him ages or splitbox him with 2 blockers

[tired grail]

kal'tsit is worth bringing? i usually pick up reed alter when i have hope for a 6* and medic voucher

[merry narwhal]

she eats phantom specifically

but other options also work, i used to do it with cAmiya

[wide sail]

i only tried kal once and the damage was pretty bad but it was chachek and 0 damage relics

[merry narwhal]

if you do the sandwich setup you can also burst him without dodge ignore

[tired grail]

my team was ines, kroos, mudrock, schwarz, texas alter, ifrit (no E2) , thorns, reed alter, eyja i think, had a crazy run but i just suck

[wide sail]

i hear mud s3 is good for phantom

[neat skiff]

Operators are like 1/3 of the power. It's mostly in the relics.

[wide sail]

its easier to just draft for something that works relicless or is atleast close

if u start pozy or schwarz thats super consistent usually

im guessing that mud s3 texas s2 reedic s2 sandwich would shred but i never tried

[merry narwhal]

this is the setup i remember doing

gravel is to bait teleport

the healing defender can be a fortress to help with singers if need be too

[wide sail]

wtf is that jieyun

[merry narwhal]

on a safe tile, you can also use the one to her left and put like Kroos2 there

Amiya is on S3

actually, I think I had Kroos2 above Jieyun for the flyers which I forgot

[tired grail]

Amiya+ cutter is enough to burst him down in one cycle?

[merry narwhal]

yes

there are many options nowadays, you can also remove cuora and gravel and kill him with more dps on his idle spot (above Honeyberry)

there's a good melanite/schwarz/pozy tile right below Honeyberry

[tired grail]

Damn bro I just think I've got skill issue

I am at candle light level 40, and I've still never cleared a single time

How to get better at not sucking at ak?

[tepid leaf]

@peak cloak u there?

[scarlet mortar]

every time a better player has a specific strat, copy them

then throw the strat at stages until you know how they work

rinse and repeat

[cosmic thicket]

play more and talk with people that play

[scarlet mortar]

good strats aren't born in a day, seeing how the experienced players do it is pretty helpful

[cosmic thicket]

also messing around is very useful

forcing myself to use only vigil for ch13 main stages made me appreciate how broken natural dp gen is

[scarlet mortar]

i went without vg's for maybe a year now and yh

even with DP down you can still make stuff work

considering that, 1 DP/s is a steal

[merry narwhal]

the most useful trick for the phantom stage is leaking the first wolf

imo it makes your setup so much better, ofc if you drafted a vanguard, you can use them too

[meager merlin]

Anyone here familiar with Theresa S1 vs Skalter S2? They look very similar on paper but I'm undecided if I wanna spark Skalter

[leaden kraken]

What do I do with "Tomorrow's Opus"? [The Ark Sets Sail]

[polar crane]

give it when an npc need it

you will find it eventually

[scarlet mortar]

imo only spark someone if you have a concrete goal in mind with them and/or personally like them

300 pulls is a lot

[meager merlin]

I have around 650 pulls saved, and I'm likely going to go to 300 on Arturia

[scarlet mortar]

with that said, skalter S2 provides def and atk plus can be used with her summon

[meager merlin]

But I'm mainly asking because Spalter and Skalter are the only limited operators that I really care about ATM

I have NTRK and Texalter

[scarlet mortar]

haven't calc'd for theresa S1 but it is reliant on her dust's range, not as convenient imo

otoh theresa is a welfare op

you get her by playing the game

[meager merlin]

And I know I'll have enough for Ash, Ela and Walter if I clear more stages

[scarlet mortar]

both theresa S1 and skalter S2 are qol even if they're comparable

if someone else has the numbers for theresa i'd wait for them, but yh that's all i'll say

[rocky kelp]

ive only bothered with her s2 so far

[meager merlin]

[rocky kelp]

35 sec perma bind is pretty good for someone who cost like 6dp

[scarlet mortar]

ok there were numbers in chat

i'm pretty sure that relies on the dust spawn patterns

which is... eh?

[meager merlin]

Low key frustrating how Walter is so good because we barely have gotten any showcase on Logos and Theresa

[neat skiff]

Logos has had a bunch of showcasing.

[scarlet mortar]

oh there's a wis'adel logos nightingale trio of H8-4

[neat skiff]

Dude is Eyjafjalla/GoldenGlow tier.

[rocky kelp]

there is literally a logos showcase stage in ch14

[scarlet mortar]

if that counts as a showcase

[neat skiff]

2 showcase stages.

S1 and S3.

[scarlet mortar]

logos is less flashy than wis'adel when it comes to damage is all

[rocky kelp]

his s3 is lame so i guess I ignored it

[scarlet mortar]

his S3 projectile wipe is pretty strong

[neat skiff]

It's also a lot of damage.

[scarlet mortar]

eyja-tier damage lmao

[meager merlin]

Logos vs Tallulah was hilarious

[neat skiff]

"Here is this new operator balanced in line with previous top tier casters"
"Here is their banner mate. They powercreep Londinium defense artillery"

At least bosses having lots of phys dodge is somewhat expected these days.

[scarlet mortar]

not that many bosses though

rn it's mostly DR

and the occasional invuln frames

[neat skiff]

Either way "pure physical damage is neutered".

[scarlet mortar]

wis'adel still punches enough to be a threat with DR ngl

unless you're kid named sanguinarch

[meager merlin]

Just double checking, Inspire gives all allies within range some of the Bard's stats

Aka, HP, DEF, ATTACK

[scarlet mortar]

yh correct

[meager merlin]

Ok

[vital arrow]

depends on the skill but yes

[meager merlin]

Skalter S2

[vital arrow]

like skalter s2 gives atk and def

[neat skiff]

Entirely depends on the skill.

[vital arrow]

s3 only gives atk

heidi s1 gives atk

s2 gives hp and def

[scarlet mortar]

yh which stats it gives is specified by the skill

[meager merlin]

I see

[meager merlin]

Didn't know that

[vital arrow]

like you can see what said inspiration gives

[scarlet mortar]

iirc only bards can give inspire effects?

[meager merlin]

Man, Buff math is annoying

[vital arrow]

so far yes

[scarlet mortar]

yh was abt to add that anyone that can give inspire can't receive them

so infinite buff looping isn't possible

the bards just have that as part of their trait

[meager merlin]

What is a good stage to test some Bard math, just needs to be long and easy to low operator

[vital arrow]

CE5, you can permastall there

just drop like a phalanx and a medic

and stall the last enemy

[meager merlin]

Ty

[neat skiff]

Heart of surging flame OF-1 is my go to. Costs 0 so you don't run out of practice tokens and is super easy since it's all slugs.

[scarlet mortar]

if you want a number to pop up you'll have to inflict fragile or sth though

[meager merlin]

I'm gonna test out Heidi/Skalter and see if I can apply the math to Theresa

[scarlet mortar]

if not then you're eyeballing hp bars

[neat skiff]

What math do you want done?

[vital arrow]

what math

like you can just napkin math it

[neat skiff]

Inspire are all flat buffs and we know stats.

[meager merlin]

How much stats Theresa adds to Hoshiguma for example

[rocky kelp]

399 atk

[vital arrow]

399 atk

[rocky kelp]

its always 399 atk

[scarlet mortar]

oh if it's just that then yh check numbers before and after

[meager merlin]

Yeah

That's all im doing

[vital arrow]

s2m3 gives 100% of her atk to allies

just math her atk

[turbid badge]

[neat skiff]

Civilight has 369 attack without trust. 399 with trust.

[vital arrow]

its flat buff so everyone gets the same amount

[meager merlin]

Oh, I'm just talking passively with just existing, no skills or just skill 1

[neat skiff]

0

[vital arrow]

she doesnt

[scarlet mortar]

passively bards don't give anything

[turbid badge]

Only healinf

[vital arrow]

bards only regen passively

[meager merlin]

Just HP's?

[turbid badge]

Regn*

[neat skiff]

Passively bards give regen that is 10% of their attack.

[meager merlin]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

[vital arrow]

it doesnt say anything about inspire offskill

[neat skiff]

Nothing else.

[vital arrow]

like you can just read their trait

does it say anything about them giving inspire

[rocky kelp]

read?

waddat?

[meager merlin]

I may be

[hearty dove]

Ik this is a really noob question but what is the strat for this stage? I want to get the max level up materials per run but I can't manage to beat the stage lol

[vital arrow]

use aoe dps

aoe casters

or spreadshooters

and stack defenders

its just tank and spank

[scarlet mortar]

aoe times a billion

[hearty dove]

makes sense lemme see what good AOE units i have

[scarlet mortar]

and then your best defender for the last mobs

probs two ops with decent attack speed for the wraiths though

[tepid leaf]

can mudrock stall jesselton p1 and p2 on anni 11 so ifrit can kill jesselton??

[scarlet mortar]

or crowd control ig

[hearty dove]

uh so should I put my aoe units up first or wait till I need the AOE?

[rocky kelp]

you can always hold dp

as long as you dont leak your fine

[hearty dove]

ah

[scarlet mortar]

vanguard, a marksman or sth with fast attacks and low DP, then aoe and a defender

[hearty dove]

alr I'll see what good AOE units I have then

[scarlet mortar]

that stage doesn't naturally gen DP so for an early squad you probs want a vg

[rocky kelp]

if you dont have any e2s yet, I recommend building pinecone she is a good early carry. shes 4*

[hearty dove]

Who out of these would be good? And I do have pinecone if I don't have any other good AOE units lmao

first one accidentally sent twice that's my bad

[vital arrow]

hoshi pinecone qiubai kroos fang

and add some medic

are you asking on how to beat LS4 or

[hearty dove]

Warfarin and sussurro would work yeah?

[vital arrow]

sure

[hearty dove]

Perfect ty

[vital arrow]

you should start raising your texalt too

[hearty dove]

i believe I can get them e1 rn with my materials

[merry narwhal]

raise 12F and Rangers

they are 2* who cost next to nothing to raise and do well in these early stages

12F isn't quite enough by himself for the AoE check

[scarlet mortar]

ok damn i'm pretty sure goldenglow and eyja delete like half the mobs lmao

warf gens SP for those two free of charge

fang kroos eyja goldenglow warf hoshiguma qiubai would basically do

try not to level ops to E2L90 btw, the last 30 levels have staggering costs for very little benefit

[neat skiff]

^

[scarlet mortar]

E2L40 is fine, E2L60 if it's a 6* and you want their mod

[narrow patrol]

Isn’t flag bearers required or recommended for annihilations given there’s no dp gen otherwise?

[neat skiff]

Mod = module.

[hearty dove]

Okk

[cosmic thicket]

pioneer gen is fine

anni maps are really slow and you'll have more than enough DP especially if your formation is quite static

[vital arrow]

you just want dp on skill

faster is better

but anni maps are long enough you can live with like

fang and courier

[scarlet mortar]

i mean the better pioneers can do sth other than gen DP

if you don't have half a squad of meta they aren't the worst thing

[hearty dove]

Dang lmao ls5 is so much harder than ls4 mapwise

Got like 4 entry points I gotta defend

[karmic glade]

guess why they give out 4 stars for free

[hearty dove]

sacrifices

[glass monolith]

IS6 - RA sized maps you need to protect

[hearty dove]

This stage is giving me brain aneurysms I can only imagine how much harder LS6 is

[glass monolith]

Oh you about Ls stages 6th stage was added much later into game so it expect you having enough bullshit to handle

[hearty dove]

Why is 5 so cancerous then

[glass monolith]

It is about 8% or so more sanity efficient but everyone build base for passive production

[glass monolith]

(shrugs)

[hearty dove]

I can't even get close to beating 5 lmao

[glass monolith]

Well those stages don't have linear increase in difficulty

[hearty dove]

[void terrace]

Damn virtuosa really takes the pressure off with that aoe necrosis

The weakness is insane

Too bad it decays fast

[turbid badge]

Loll

[tired grail]

okay, here's my best run so far in IS2, im just in front of the last stage (phantom boss), how would you guys play this comp? i'd really, really like to win a run at least once lmao

for collectibles i've just got stuff that gives attk when blocking only 1 and timer reduced for fast-redeploys, so texas alter on S2 seems like a banger to me to burst down phantom no ?

[remote perch]

Thorns and kal on the middle
Then like camp on the top left of the map where phantom will stay
Like place Schwartz on the middle back of the ranged tiles there and mlynar on the right side of the ranged tiles facing up then eyja beside the roadblock. When phantom is near just use their skill

Alternatively you can also bait phantom dodge with texalter and use monst3r to block with Kalsit s3

[tired grail]

u mean there ?

[remote perch]

Yee

[tired grail]

i dont find a good tile to place schwarz on

nor ifrit for that matter

[remote perch]

Huh
That's alot smaller than I remember lmao

Can u ss the whole map

[tired grail]

yeah nw lmao

[merry narwhal]

gimme a sec

[tired grail]

also i should mention, i gambled my life points with wine so im at 3 hps

[remote perch]

It is smaller than i remembered lmao

Anyhow

I'd probably do something like

Yellow Schwartz
Green Mlynar
Red Eyja
Orange Monst3r
Blue Kal
Pink Thorns
Purple Texas, this is to bait phantom dash, after dashing replacing her with a Ines to help monst3r against the boss

Once phantom use his dash spam all of your skill, if boss somehow doesn't die Schwartz will kill his remaining HP

[tired grail]

which direction for thorns ? up or right?

[merry narwhal]

Thorns + Kal should be enough for Phantom

[tired grail]

this stage is annoying because sometimes i burst down phantom and just get killed because i leak 2 wolfs when 20 come at once with the shield guys

[remote perch]

Up

[tired grail]

same for schwarz ig

[merry narwhal]

I'd rather use that tile for Kaltsit S3 because your Schwarz doesn't evne have module

she'll just miss all the time

Thorns can also hit Phantom on his chill spot

your squad is overkill no matter how I look at it

[tired grail]

yeah iv' just got one problem

huge skill issue

[merry narwhal]

activate mlynar when Phantom's in range because he also chills on G6 for a while

that might already kill him

if not you have Kal + Thorns to finish him off

only place Kal's summon after he walked past

[tired grail]

aight bursted him down, just gotta not leak shit in the last 20 enemies

yeepee

[merry narwhal]

actually, you have to bait the jump and replace monster because Kal doesn't gain SP when her pet isn't out

[tired grail]

[merry narwhal]

nice congrats

it's just the fliers that can kill you tbh if all the roadblocks are still intact

[undone crypt]

Whoops wrongpic

[astral cosmos]

urgh well I don't have that many ops left for ZT-10

[undone crypt]

Hey guys, trying to do 10-10 adverse without support and this is my squad, any tips?
I tried following the other guides, but they use blaze or mudrock, which i dont have

[turbid crow]

how do I know how much time is left before witch king kills everyone?

[merry narwhal]

there's a red aura thingy about 30s before he kills you and the timer resets when you enter p2

[turbid crow]

ok
damn, it's hard, I have, like, 10-15% success rate in training on that phase, can't properly time stuff

[narrow patrol]

So any idea how to kill the@witch@king? I’m getting creamed on Zt 10

Like I’m too busy holding off the enemies that approach to really use the mechanic

Or the turret is always at the wrong spot for me to use it to kill hom

Like I can use the turret to thin out the crowd of enemies by the entrance but he’s never in position for me to use the mechanic to hurt him

[turbid crow]

I'm using guide from here #media-content message
My operators rn can't properly handle even onslaught from regular enemies, let alone kill the king, but with this strat I've just cleared it

[narrow patrol]

I’m gonna need a Mlynar

I’m just tempted to get him from the selector and raise him asap

Because I’m not seeing any decent ones to borrow

[remote perch]

Add the ones with a decent Mlynar

[narrow patrol]

The only one showing up now@is a e1 lvl 80. I found a few but those runs went poorly

[remote perch]

Does your team currently have a e2 on it?

[narrow patrol]

Yep

I actually used a few e2 mlynars but again failed attempts. Got close to p2 but not quite

Yndumbass thought you just needed an e2 in your account. I see what you mean now

[remote perch]

Supports scale to the highest promotion in the current squad you are borrowing on

[narrow patrol]

Good news I made it to p2

Bad news the fucker teleported Mlynar to a position in his crowd that got him killed

[peak cloak]

it was 4 am

[narrow patrol]

I see

I think I’ll just raid Mlynar. I dunno I’d like to be able to have the support freed up for another slot or something

[viscid raft]

honestly i would retry if one of your key units get tp'd

[narrow patrol]

Feels a little ring reliant if you can’t time the teleport

[viscid raft]

For my run I just redeployed them later

For the second phase of the boss theres 2 ways to go about it. You either use multiple units on the orb to beat the boss or place someone directly behind them

I used Kaze behind the boss and she didnt really get hit in her paper form. Just needed one of silence's drones

[scarlet mortar]

mlynar eats the tp almost for certain so like

either you sack him, bring two more ops with taunt (why), acquire funny heavyrain camo (most people don't go for this) or use someone else

[viscid raft]

Do you use mylnar for the orb hitting

[scarlet mortar]

mlynar's kinda eh with the portal

it keeps tp'ing around, he'll waste like half the skill and then sit there

[viscid raft]

I used lapp facing bottom to hit both devices since I didnt have mlynar

and the orb in the second lane between the devices to also be hit by lapp

[narrow patrol]

I’m trying to experiment with archetto/kroos thing is the swamps tend to mess their targeting

Tho if@I say use Lapland for the devices and orbs I may be able to free Mlynar and position him for dealing with the boss

[verbal sparrow]

someone mentioned a nice wishlist for vivi module
every shield that breaks will explode and shred enemy RES
surely they will give her something good

[rapid void]

Other than using the practice of stages and videos, any advice on passing stages? I’m kinda confused on characters to use and the enemies on each stage.

[verbal sparrow]

as with any thinking game, you will naturally learn and gain experience as you play
if you are stuck watch youtube guides like kyostinV
maybe also watch other people's clears for fun
eventually you will notice the patterns of what to do

[rapid void]

Alrighty! It’s my first time playing this genre of game so I’m just lost. Thank you!

[verbal sparrow]

no problem. this is probably the best gacha game in terms of thinking and solving puzzles. lots of content for you to chew through

[rapid void]

Most definitely, I just likely have better characters than the 3 stars that I just really want to use.

[ivory leaf]

Who has Lin I can borrow

[final ginkgo]

Still need?

[ivory leaf]

Yup

[final ginkgo]

My ID is RiddleRosehearts#3976

Il change my support to her rn

[ivory leaf]

Gotxhu

Added

[molten temple]

Convinced this is impossible

Need help

[ivory leaf]

Can change S1?

(I forgot what her S1 is wahh)

[peak cloak]

use roadblocks, make the stage becomes a one lane fight

[molten temple]

Which lane

[final ginkgo]

Done but I have no masteries on her s1

[ivory leaf]

Just need slow huhu

[remote perch]

3

[molten temple]

This my team

[peak cloak]

and remember to add 1-2 casters 😉

[remote perch]

Place the roadblocks there

[molten temple]

Oh

[remote perch]

Then just dump your defenders and dps on the right side

[peak cloak]

yea, it just as simple as that

there are more stages that u can use roadblocks and take advantages from this mechanic. 4-4 for example

[ivory leaf]

Thanks for the Lin!

[final ginkgo]

Yw! Feel free to dm if u need other ops

[undone crypt]

Just got to the last stage of is2, someone plz help, dont wanna fuck this up lol

[ivory leaf]

I was gonna say you can unfriend me now but I do kinda need ops huhu thanks for the help:)

[neat spade]

looks like a good enough team to beat it, you just need to be familiar with how the stage works to navigate it so lucian doesn't surprise you

[undone crypt]

what ops should i use/replace? thinking i need eyja and lappland, but idk who to replace

[neat spade]

replace beagle with lapp and melantha with eyja

you have more than enough blockers

I only really blocked in one place at the map anyways, you dont need many blocks, you need damage to kill lucian

are you going in blind?

[undone crypt]

not really i guess, looked at a video/guide on the boss
but just reeeeally want to get it right, this is gonna be the first time i beat a boss in any IS lol

[neat spade]

should be fine really

lucian will just be jumping around so focus on when he stops to kill him with mlynar/mon3ter

reed s3 even without masteries could work great at the middle

[undone crypt]

sure thing, i'll switch over to s3

[neat spade]

I find s2 to be more specific when you can sandwich a boss between 2 melee units

you probably wont get much value out of it in this stage

[undone crypt]

question, should i use exu or reed alt to clear right side?

[neat spade]

I would go with reed s3

she should blow them all up as they're all clumping together

[cobalt eagle]

Is Arutia worth picking in IS gamemodes ? (3,4 with high difficulty)
Currently been trying to beat is3 ED4 with ascension 15. Would like some advices from gameplay Gods

[fair jewel]

who is a good starter operator for is 4?

[neat spade]

imo reed alter is probably the best one

[cobalt eagle]

Kroos alter spot strat doesn't even work anymore in ascension 15 they get recked if there's an emergency stage

And that is symbiosis

[silver thorn]

any tips for ZT-9? following kyostinV's low rarity guide and i keep dying at the end https://youtu.be/mgIl67rRGiE?t=1867 (timestamp accurate)

[cyan gorge]

If you're dying then that means your levels or your trust are probably not maxed

[silver thorn]

wonderful

popukar, melantha, gummy/spot, midnight... they're all maxed (except for spot)

no max trust

https://krooster.com/u/notasaint

[neat spade]

I think max stats is at 100 anyways

[silver thorn]

yeah... no max trust

[neat spade]

are you following the guide 1:1 or trying to sub in the "classes" for better ops that you own?

[silver thorn]

i started 1:1 at first, still died w/ spot so i decided "why not sub in gummy"

[neat spade]

because Thorns even E1 might outdo midnight in that spot

[silver thorn]

i could get lappland e1

i don't think i can get thorns e1

[neat spade]

oh yeah lapp e1 might be even better she's a beast

[silver thorn]

when is lapp better than thorns?

[neat spade]

at e1 she is

[silver thorn]

nice

[neat spade]

at E2 he's a lot better because destreza >>

but she's still the queen of silence

[silver thorn]

wait

gummy S1 scales off atk right?

[neat spade]

I would use cuora on spot's place

with 2 medics healing her + her own skill, no way she dies

[silver thorn]

i would've, too, except my 1 braincell thought "maybe i do need healer tank"

because my DPS die next

[neat spade]

healer tank are a lot more fragile than real tanks

[silver thorn]

should i E1 lappland or E1 silence to sub in

[neat spade]

when there's not too much damage you can do without them

lappland

[silver thorn]

maybe this is a #help question, but what's the general value on these?

honestly at this point i'd rather whale because running out of LMD this early sucks dick

[neat spade]

theres 700k in the event shop though

[silver thorn]

700k who? (not to be rude)

[neat spade]

lmao yeah its the first thing I buy as well

to be honest, dont give in to FOMO lmao just wait til your base produces more

[neat spade]

also try getting everyone to sl7

you'll still be using them forever because IS is a thing, so its never wasted

[silver thorn]

should i E2 cuora

i had started planning to do it because she's my best tank so far but idk now seeing that i need really rare materials and

[neat spade]

are you trying to clear to setup an auto or just to clear it?

[silver thorn]

60k LMD

[silver thorn]

both

[neat spade]

if you wanna E2 someone for an easy shortcut into borrowing E2 supports I'd advise myrtle first

but cuora is cool

the main thing is that you dont have sussurro

[silver thorn]

i mean, banner loli good but i have actually yet to touch her

[neat spade]

you're gonna be using her forever

theres no escaping myrtle

[cyan gorge]

Me who hasn't brought Myrtle in a very long time

[neat spade]

I try not to because its more fun

but sometimessssss... myrtles just too good

[silver thorn]

where to see base trading info

[neat spade]

control center

[silver thorn]

so... observations: no healer tank means that dreadnought dies and i don't have the DPS or sustain afterwards to survive the last wave

....

[meager merlin]

Ines + Bagpipe has replaced my FlagPipe setup

[high kettle]

help

tried following kyo's afk strat but with worse op and lower levels

main problem is probably no nightingale kek

[neat spade]

yeah the guide kinda relies on the healing of sussurro

kyo is kinda used to her because he's been using her for ages

[silver thorn]

can silence replace sussurro?

[neat spade]

to be honest no lmao sussurros skill is like the biggest burst healing in the game

[silver thorn]

so which healers should i build?

[high kettle]

but mud almost die a few times and perfumer helped avoid

[silver thorn]

...WHEN DID I GET SUSSURRO

[neat spade]

oh you have her lol

[silver thorn]

will E0 sussurro suffice, or?

[cyan gorge]

e1 max

[neat spade]

better to E1 max and s7

[silver thorn]

🅱️roke doctor problems

[neat spade]

just keep farming zt-8 for the time being, you'll need a lot of devices anyways

[high kettle]

I wonder if i can auto this anni

[neat spade]

I was looking at that pic you sent

and trying to remember that anni

[high kettle]

Its 21? I think

[neat spade]

is angelina subbing for skalter

[high kettle]

When cars hit mud + crocs flood ange help

wonder if w would be better

[neat spade]

no eyja alter I suppose

[high kettle]

nope

my ops #help message

[neat spade]

you're not gonna farm this anyway right

are you using support already?

[high kettle]

nope

i wanted to see if i can auto so i can use the device thingy

proxy or whatever

[cyan gorge]

that won't work on any but the featured anni

[high kettle]

yeah

[cyan gorge]

so not using a support is pointless

[neat spade]

I dont even know if thats the latest anni

[high kettle]

so i wanted to be able to auto this one

[cyan gorge]

I forgot it was still current

for 2 days tho

so not even worth autoing

[high kettle]

yea but i havent done any anni this week

[cyan gorge]

we had a whole dead week right?

[high kettle]

i just got back

to ak

[neat spade]

fuck??

didnt know we were getting a new anni next week

nvm 22 looks easy

[high kettle]

oh can i use the proxies on the kazimierz one? has dumbbell logos

[cyan gorge]

I have yet to meet an anni where Fia doesn't kill everything

[neat spade]

annis are like fias/w/thorns best stages

[high kettle]

anni has always been rough for me

no blaze thorns

[neat spade]

have you seen other guides on it

[cyan gorge]

No

[neat spade]

theres a lot of ways to clear it tbh

if you're leaking at the last wave maaaaybe virtuosa S3 on support should do it

[cyan gorge]

My clear abused Horn to kill 80% of the mobs

[neat spade]

I think I just copied dr leon's guide 1:1

[meager merlin]

How many free pulls do we have left

10?

[high kettle]

even more impossible for me, no mountain blaze gg thorns nightingale

[verbal sparrow]

h13-4 was quite something

well I just brute-forced it though

reed and mlynar pulling their weights

[tepid leaf]

ah

[tidal sedge]

Vendela you shouldn't be capable of this.

[gusty depot]

https://youtu.be/TPe5as0zVxM?si=i-Q8NSha98zSxOEK

[turbid badge]

Whats

Healing backwards?

[tidal sedge]

Vendela can attack enemy she's blocking outside of her range. Ranged ops cannot normally do that.

[civic bear]

Try swapping her placement with hibi. Does it still work

[cosmic thicket]

are you sure the enemy on vendela isn't splitboxed

[tidal sedge]

If she was, then Hibi would be able to attack them too

[cosmic thicket]

no like from initial deployment

[civic bear]

Nah that looks like indeed is vendela

The more you know

[tidal sedge]

I know what you mean, but if that was the case then the enemy would be split boxed into Hibi's range too

[civic bear]

Code jank

[cosmic thicket]

vendela W

AK should add challenge editor like in btd6

[turbid badge]

Vendela W

[cosmic thicket]

we can show off random bullshit like this

[turbid badge]

Her anims o

Op

[limpid siren]

the fuck

why would vendela have block priority

[tidal sedge]

A theory I saw was she was initially designed as a melee op and they forgot to adjust block priority trait after changing her to incantation medic

[limpid siren]

an upsetting theory to consider

[civic bear]

Sounds like made up theory

[limpid siren]

as it implies that whatever makes ranged units incapable of targeting blocked units outside their range is separate from being a ranged unit

i feel like it's more likely that whoever was responsible for vendela simply stepped on the coding equivalent of a flower and mucked something up

[civic bear]

P much

Is just diff coding guy

[limpid siren]

not the first time tbh

[civic bear]

The hood classic

[limpid siren]

mousse my beloved

negative buff

[tidal sedge]

I think similarly personally, as the theory is a touch convoluted for me to think it's actually what happened. But it amused me nonetheless.

[limpid siren]

yea it's worth a laugh at least

how did you even discover this btw

[tidal sedge]

I didn't trip it myself this time. I was looking for Vendela fanart on Twitter and saw an mp4 about it.

[turbid badge]

[limpid siren]

i almost don't believe you

with how often you run into weird shit

[tidal sedge]

Unfortunately I am not goofy enough to have ranged ops block backwards on CE maps.

[civic bear]

Medic facing backward is a pretty good staller..

0dps

[tidal sedge]

Well, I guess that's theoretically plausible on the IS2 CE style stage with the drones. But I haven't touched IS2 in forever.

[glass monolith]

I just woke up. Another soul figured out ranged units don't have melee attack?

[civic bear]

No

Vendela can melee atk

For some reason

Another jank added to the list

[tidal sedge]

No. I knew that. What is weird is that Vendela disobeys that rule.

[glass monolith]

AND I STILL MISSING HER

[limpid siren]

more details when meow finishes his rant in ten years

[elder flume]

Thats not long

[tidal sedge]

Lmao. Now this makes me wonder if Blem prioritizing sleep over block is indicative of such too.

[limpid siren]

He gave that as an example yea

[turbid badge]

RAINCHAN

[limpid siren]

What a wonderful day to discover a new example of HG doing things the hard way

[glass monolith]

Content Creator we all needed

[summer bridge]

Hi guys, for long spring wastes annihilation. What can I use to replace Blaze?

If I can't find Blaze, what are the alternatives that I can get to replace her?

[glass monolith]

La Pluma, Humus, Pinecone, Chalter. More the merrier i guess. If it AoEs it assists

[summer bridge]

If it Chalter, put it here facing left, right?

[tidal sedge]

Yep

[glass monolith]

Yea, With S1 to not bother with activations

[summer bridge]

Um, my Chalter's S1 is M0 tho

[glass monolith]

S3 screwed me over once because i triggered phantom dude outside everyone range

[tidal sedge]

Not a big deal

[glass monolith]

You not always need mastery for it to work. It is just skill you don't have to click every 5 seconds

[summer bridge]

Ahhhhhh I see

[summer bridge]

Oh, so Chalter's S1, even with no mastery is still more consistent. Got it!

Is deployment order important?

*Sorry, left out "order"

[glass monolith]

There will be ranged enemies passing on left. Better not deploy her last unless you have medics reaching her

[summer bridge]

Ahhhhh right, enemies target the last deployed character

Can't find Blaze, what is a good unit in that spot? Does Mountain work?

Or is Cuora better?

[smoky halo]

exec

[summer bridge]

Executor?

[smoky halo]

yes

executor guard

[vivid rain]

Executor alt yea

[smoky halo]

not the sniper

[summer bridge]

Oh, didn't have him.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Tbh assuming u have ifrit in your home u can do whatever

[summer bridge]

Wait, FOUND HIM!

[vivid rain]

If you dont have him then uh actually anyone with aoe dps works there

[summer bridge]

I have ifrit xD

[scarlet fulcrum]

even better

[smoky halo]

mizuki was pretty fire in this anhil

[vivid rain]

Literally just aoe check

[summer bridge]

Gotcha! Is Blaze facing left better than up in that picture?

[vivid rain]

It doesnt really matters that much, the mobs from that lane have low hp but are quite crowded so if you have sufficient aoe dps you can face her up

[summer bridge]

Oh, the left side needs more AOE firepower. Gotcha

[lapis hornet]

blaze isn't good there

ain't no way that pic clears wdf

[vivid rain]

No that anni is just that easy

Ifrit literally trivializes everything

[lapis hornet]

you try it brah

blaze will be perma frozen

[vivid rain]

I’d try it if i had pratice tickets for anni

[lapis hornet]

there's a 0% chance that setup works lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not like they ignore 6 deploy slots remaining

[glass monolith]

I found find something. IF FUCKING YOUTUBE HAD FUCKING SEARCH FUNCTION WORKING

[vivid rain]

But last time i tried it wasnt that hard

Anyway i found the yt video

https://youtu.be/LOMS4eu9dN0?si=mIBVF8UKVA9zb-T1

Pot 1 ifrit so it’s the same vid lmfao

[scarlet fulcrum]

In ak thats called pot 2, but whatever ik what u meant

[summer copper]

I thought it's p0-p5

But ok

[scarlet fulcrum]

So

P6 doesnt exist

[lapis hornet]

ain't no way

[scarlet fulcrum]

And big number written there doesnt exist

[lapis hornet]

how this thing works

[scarlet fulcrum]

Can u see the big number?

[summer copper]

Isn't that big number means what u get after use token?

[lapis hornet]

I'll try it after I'm done farming e7

[summer copper]

Cz like
There is never smth called 6 potential even after use all token
The biggest is 5

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nah potential is not dupe, just operator potential. Well they are same in sense but different meaning

[summer copper]

Alr bet
Will use this way then

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not really forced, just rule of thumb in ak

U can call it however u like tbh

[summer copper]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just have fun all that matter

[lapis hornet]

pot 6 they call pot max in game now

[scarlet fulcrum]

Sure

[lapis hornet]

(i think)

[summer bridge]

Hey guys, the anni missions all have 2 days left. Does that mean 2 days later these missions will be replaced by another set?

[vivid rain]

Correct

[summer bridge]

Ooh, there are quite a lot of annis available this rotation huh

[summer copper]

Nope

There is like

15

Not much

In total

They are just rotating smth like half of them every time

[glass monolith]

3 permament - 1 current - 5 "practice" to claim 400/400 reward from currents you missed
Sometimes we have event when you can start ANY old annihilation. Not sure if we still get it, because we already over 20+ annihilations

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah so no need to rush, u can revenge later if still having technical issue

[summer copper]

Do we get free extra old annis?

[glass monolith]

There was event when you have ALL annihilation in practice at once, i just quit paying attention to it after finishing all old annihilations

[scarlet fulcrum]

There is time like that yea, all open rotation

[summer copper]

Never saw that before
Might be I'm not paying any attention

[glass monolith]

I think it was happening during CC event after celebration limited on global (Or you know. Anniv/x.5 limiteds on CN)

[scarlet fulcrum]

In the future maybe it will changed to few wave with short time cycle

[glass monolith]

I looked up. Aquapit is 21th annihilation. We get 22th next week

Back when i started it was 9th

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah current one almost over

[civic crown]

1th

[scarlet fulcrum]

st*

[timid acorn]

Logos' numbers again. I fixed a mistake I made when calculating S3 due to a bad machine translation and added his second skill. His average total and DPS should be accurate now. I also left a comparison to Ceobe and Eyjafjalla since those are the Casters best single/multi-target bursts currently available.

Even ignoring his utilities he definitly looks like a caster that shouldn't be skipped

[karmic glade]

why is the data discrete

[timid acorn]

uncharacteristically good considering what HG usually does to Casters

[timid acorn]

with increasing res values he loses elemental damage procs

and I calculate the damage based on the hits he does

[scarlet fulcrum]

normal arts just pleb in 95 res moment

[karmic glade]

still isn't as good as ceobe under CC level 3 atk- tags, but is still the best support for ceobe, both RES reduction and fixed art damage that can proc twice with ceobe

[glass monolith]

Wait for them to do another chapter 10 slimes CC where Logos S1 will be must

[peak cloak]

want to do that soon? i have 4h of free time before i bring myself to my comfy bed.

[tepid leaf]

2 sanity

but what are u planning on to do?

[peak cloak]

L

[tepid leaf]

i tried like 4 youtube videos

[peak cloak]

it will be the last try from me

looks, we almost cooked with that strat

just need better timing

[tepid leaf]

okioki

still typhon?

[peak cloak]

yea, still Tifon.

[tepid leaf]

oki ill tag you when my sanity hits 25

shouldnt be too long

[peak cloak]

shouldnt be too long 2h and half

https://tenor.com/view/po-dies-dies-of-death-teletubbies-gif-23885910

[scarlet fulcrum]

I thought u did it

[tepid leaf]

oh is it

one originium is worth it i think

gimme 5 mins, clearing things out

[summer bridge]

Ahhhhhhhh I see

[peak cloak]

u get 10 per hours

[tepid leaf]

naur

[peak cloak]

25 = 10+10+5
so 1h + 1h + 30mins

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[scarlet fulcrum]

Wait i gonna stalk ur ops and try few stuff

[tepid leaf]

i have

130 sanity now

lets go

[scarlet fulcrum]

I will just slap u the vid ig, my phone dying rn, cany try train setup in my mind

[tepid leaf]

anyone with typhon wanna add me

[tepid leaf]

please do

[scarlet fulcrum]

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1PY411b7tE different setup from what i thought but if u want consider it

[peak cloak]

about to have a meal, maybe 1h later

bro use op to fill up san, rip

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its still there for few days anyway

[tepid leaf]

ah okay

[tepid leaf]

oki np

whos that texas-like skill caster btw

[scarlet fulcrum]

Assenger

[tepid leaf]

i tried ifrit strats earlier, and only problem i had is on wave 376

[tepid leaf]

im considering other annis actually

[scarlet fulcrum]

Cant believe i recommend assenger, but yeah his kit just match the stage rush

Ifrit strat also easier

[tepid leaf]

ya i agree, but just that 376 waves, where suddenly they are all red even when the big guy hasnt hit anything

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh yeah after i stalked ur ops, for ifrit strats all u need is dump all arts on mid top, also unless u can deal with unchained mobs/elite. U better not killing jessleton p1 until the end

[tepid leaf]

who should i use on bottom to be precise?

i used to place ifrit on bot, along with mud, and jesselton died

[scarlet fulcrum]

just blocker for sniper

Ifrit facing bottom on top

[tepid leaf]

i tried this too, then the spear guy killed her

on wave 300+ ish couldnt remember

wasnt red (free) btw

[scarlet fulcrum]

Sniper top only 350ish

Taunt issue, or just use flashlight

[tepid leaf]

ah oki oki

[scarlet fulcrum]

Or other possibility is, u killed jest then the caster slapping u

But U can kill jess at the right timing, tho just play safe for now

Just in case to prevent jess from taking too much dmg since he is fragile af, retreat 1 blocker then let him walk out of ifrit range. Maybe during that time most enemies already on flashlight range too

He will perform catwalk once btw, also few restpoints so,this boss beyond saving

[tepid leaf]

can i do this WITHOUT the sniper in the middle?

[scarlet fulcrum]

yes

Just focus on top

[peak cloak]

@tepid leaf :) i'm up

[tepid leaf]

3 mins please haha

[tepid leaf]

oki what should we do

[peak cloak]

delete the game?

dont do that

if u could livestream pls do, otherwise wait a bit

[tepid leaf]

[peak cloak]

does Typhone survive that spot last time? i dont remember

[tepid leaf]

💻 💥 ❌

[tepid leaf]

actually i forgot too, lemme retry

[wintry spruce]

is bassline good?

and how to use him?

[peak cloak]

no need then i will research via discord message history

[scarlet fulcrum]

9%, almost arrive at home

[tepid leaf]

||im in ur closet||