strategy

[civic bear]

but leak

[cinder vector]

what if i beat it with 2 star

and call it a day

[civic bear]

brah ur so close

[vital arrow]

That doesnt sound like beating it

[civic bear]

actually i think u have a way to have mlynar lives

even without cage

[vital arrow]

Did mlynar get eaten or did he get nuked by drones

[civic bear]

have ines hit bottom damazti. and then use s2 so ines hit the top one

nuke by the global st target by 4 damazti

[vital arrow]

Ah

[civic bear]

if ines hits 2 damazti it steals 90 atk from each

should let mlynar live

[cinder vector]

this is what i have

who do i replace myrtle with?

[latent monolith]

does ines atk steal disappear when she retreats

[civic bear]

it does

[vital arrow]

Reedic on S2

[cinder vector]

where do i put her

and shouldnt 2 healer be enuff

[civic bear]

the heal is enough

[vital arrow]

Shes a dps

[civic bear]

the problem isnt the heal

its mlynar straight up

getting one shot

no heals is gnna save that

[cinder vector]

i havent raised silencealt

so

what do

[civic bear]

u can use shamare

[vital arrow]

My lineup is similar to yours

[civic bear]

just to atk down

[vital arrow]

Idk where it went wrong

[cinder vector]

shamare wil defenitely die to the cross explosion

no?

[vital arrow]

Does s1m3 eyjaberry make that much of a difference

[civic bear]

deploy her only for the last few part

[cinder vector]

eyja increase hp cap

i believe so yes

she also has like twice lumen hps

[civic bear]

wait actually

reed works cuz she reduce boss attack

[vital arrow]

I guess that makes sense

[civic bear]

but boss is invul when casting the skill tho

[cinder vector]

where do i put her

[civic bear]

so kinad doesnt matter

[cinder vector]

this will work?

[vital arrow]

Mine is above NG, facing down

I wouldnt actually use SA there

[cinder vector]

sa is to kill the two drone spawners

[vital arrow]

I'd just use S2 if I do use him

[cinder vector]

idk how else

[vital arrow]

Mlynar does it

[cinder vector]

after the drone spawner theres the hat things

[civic bear]

id assume mlynar is working on the opener

[cinder vector]

coming in pairs

[civic bear]

so its a bit hard to

[cinder vector]

i use mlynar ther

[civic bear]

have him kill drone

[vital arrow]

Yeah mlynar and reedic does those too

[cinder vector]

??

how is mlynar doing both

[vital arrow]

My opener was reedic ines mountain

Ig you can work with SA S3 or S2

[civic bear]

no bro

[cinder vector]

i definitely dont want even some balls coming so i always spawn kill the drone things

do i replace mlynar?

sorry sa

if so with who

wait shamare has 33 res

[vital arrow]

By hat youre referring to trilby ashers right

[cinder vector]

the thing that dash after some hits

[vital arrow]

Yeh

They stand still for a while

[cinder vector]

maybe shamare can survive cross explosion

no like

after the drone spawners spawn

they come in pairs

like 2 every 15 sec

[civic bear]

shamare doll doesnt apply when enemy invul unfortunately

[vital arrow]

You can replace yato with exy

[civic bear]

so kinda the same still

i think the previous squad can win

its just execution really

[vital arrow]

And use exy just for the drone spawners

[cinder vector]

like this?

where do i put reedic?

[vital arrow]

Mine is above NG facing down

Just so she can S2 on your 2 blockers

[cinder vector]

but wont that have both ng and reedic die

in the cross explosion

[vital arrow]

Yeah I dont use NG in my case

So you can reedic on the right tile

[civic bear]

it should be fine

[vital arrow]

Facing left

[civic bear]

you pop reedic s2

when drone about to spawn

reed will heal real quick

[vital arrow]

Also idi but I used kal S3

Not S2

[cinder vector]

??

[civic bear]

doesnt work here

[cinder vector]

how is kal s3 tanking top alone

[civic bear]

he's using kal as primary staller

only s2 works

[vital arrow]

Oh its stalling

[cinder vector]

i dont have murdock or something

or mountain

[civic bear]

mud wouldnt work anyway

nor mountain

[cinder vector]

so i use kal s2 for top

[civic bear]

kal is the best solo staller

[cinder vector]

starting is a bit tuff without myrtle

but i think i can try

[civic bear]

just do the same thing and reed should carry the missing damage.
ideally keep a cage. if you have to use double cage beforehand, just redeploy NG early, you'll get extra cage thus u have 3 cage total

this 1 cage makes a huge diff for mlynar

[cinder vector]

i have no clue when it activates

the st skill

[civic bear]

like

after the boss goes invul

and u see 4th boss

spawns

just drop cage

straight up

[cinder vector]

alright

[civic bear]

use mlynar immediately after p2 starts (and boss invul down) so his skill comes back up faster too

[cinder vector]

i failed again

boss ate kal

i was 1 dp short from deploying ely

[next frost]

Is that H13-3 or something else?

[cinder vector]

h12-4

im gonna try replacing sa with gravel

wait, gladdiia is a good solo tanker

ill try that

[next frost]

I can't seem to beat it with this team. The boss kills my medics too fast.

[cinder vector]

ptilo and perf will die

[next frost]

Gonna switch out Perfumer for my own Kal once I built her and use the friend slot for NG.

[indigo carbon]

Have you tried with skalter?

[smoky halo]

dont let the boss hit ur medic

[next frost]

There's Mlynar. But the phase 2.5 with drones makes me cry.

[smoky halo]

drones?

[next frost]

Those hands.

[smoky halo]

i thought ur talking abt h13-3

[civic bear]

can u

roughly draw out your placement

during the drone part

or raather the p2 stall

i do see that kaltsit is on s3

[cinder vector]

@civic bear this is phase 2

do i put cage now

and where

[civic bear]

after u see 4th body spawns

deploy anywhere really

[next frost]

Mine is almost something like this

[civic bear]

put top left of ng

also saves ur reed skill slightly later

like

after u see cage dies

(it probably dies)

wait like 5s or smth

[cinder vector]

things aint looking good

[civic bear]

to make sure the boss gets affected by reed attack down

nah thats fine

retreat texalt ines

[cinder vector]

ok

[civic bear]

prepare blaze for top

[next frost]

Might try to switch Ya2 for Shamare S2.

[civic bear]

wait no

gladiia better

[civic bear]

should tank the 2 fairly ok

[cinder vector]

thats what i brought her for

[civic bear]

yeah

win brah

[cinder vector]

this is the third time i used her

[civic bear]

mlynar reed bout to sweep

[cinder vector]

since i did m3

[civic bear]

you can yato

to kill the tophat

[cinder vector]

on bottom?

[civic bear]

starting now

bottom mlynar should kill

mlynar is getting there

[cinder vector]

ill wait a bit

[civic bear]

yeah

[cinder vector]

gladiia is dying

should i replace with blaze

[civic bear]

yes

if she almost dies

make sure retreat

so u dont lose dp

[cinder vector]

what now

[civic bear]

mlynar skill whenver u can

hmm reed skill is down a little bit worrying

[cinder vector]

OUG@OUHPPIHFOWIHEP

[civic bear]

cuz attack down is gone

[cinder vector]

why is he so lo

[civic bear]

oh he lives

thats intended

he lives with 1 hp

cuz reed attack down

[cinder vector]

texalt bottom or top

[civic bear]

boss should die really soon

is blaze immortality turned on?

[cinder vector]

NO THEY CROSS EXPLOSION

[civic bear]

its ok

as long as boss dies

killing the tophat is frd able

[cinder vector]

reedic skill is on

[civic bear]

retreat blaze

i think u can let

top boss

walk in

or you cna keep her

up to you

[cinder vector]

ok boss is dead

but no frd

[civic bear]

mon3ter is back up right

mon3ter for the tophat

[civic bear]

kaltsit s2 kills them

[cinder vector]

if she doesnt die to drone

[civic bear]

🙏

[cinder vector]

WHY DOES THIS DRONE NOT DIE WITH BOSS

[civic bear]

u have ines

in 10s

[cinder vector]

NO

wait

[civic bear]

ines s2 kills tophat (as long as she doesnt get hit)

[cinder vector]

i think

i might have fucked up

1.4 sec

[next frost]

Top lane?

[civic bear]

thats fine

texalt s3

right

[cinder vector]

YES

[civic bear]

texalt s3 on the corner so it cover more

[civic bear]

ez

[acoustic slate]

How much damage does boss do in h13-4? Should be 2400 huh? Second phase

[civic bear]

win

[next frost]

Nice.

[civic bear]

should be like

15s

[cinder vector]

no no no

[civic bear]

before the last top tophat walks

so u cna yato once again

[cinder vector]

top hat

on top

can texalt kill

or gladdiaa

i put monster on the wrong spot

[civic bear]

deploy both

[next frost]

Retreat some of your bottom ones

[civic bear]

retreat kaltsit

deploy both

[cinder vector]

yes

GG

YES

GG

[civic bear]

[cinder vector]

it took 43 tries

[acoustic slate]

Damn nice

[cinder vector]

plus some more when h12 just dropped

[cinder vector]

ghank u so much

[vivid rain]

Haha

[civic bear]

yeah shamare s2 would be p good

might not want to replace yato for her tho.

[next frost]

Who else should I replace?

Gonna switch Mountain with Gladiia for top

[civic bear]

i feel one of the healer getting replace is better. so perfurmer

perfurmer is good heal but the problem is shes e2 1 so she herself is squishy

getting kaltsit s2 borrow would be great too

[next frost]

I see. Does she need to be M3 I have my own Kal and I'm thinking of building her soon.

[civic bear]

ideally so. and modded if u want her to perma stall

[next frost]

Mod Y?

[civic bear]

yeah

mod1 works

but might as well borrow

[next frost]

Guess I'll wait until I build her. I might need the friend slot for NG/Spalter

[vital arrow]

Honestly youre better off borrowing eyjaberry

Than those 2

[civic bear]

^ at that point yeah

reduce the healing pressure

[vital arrow]

And you can just remove the medics from yout squad

[civic bear]

so you can bring stronger op

[next frost]

Should I place her on the bottom or right side?

[civic bear]

either works. her range is massive, whichever suits your other op placement

[vital arrow]

Mine is on the right side but whichever works for you

[next frost]

Guess I'll try that in the future. Thanks.

[tepid leaf]

im on my last ticket and sanity, may someone explain me how this stage will go?

[remote perch]

there are basically big bomb drones all over the map and you're playing a escort quest with tulula

[tepid leaf]

how much drones?

[vital arrow]

5

[remote perch]

iirc theres 4 on each corner
2 on the middle
and 1 that will spawn in the bottom right later

[vital arrow]

Well no, 7

[remote perch]

so 7

[vital arrow]

Honestly this stage is just

Borrow GG or texalt

[remote perch]

ye GG makes this a cakewalk

[smoky halo]

texalt/yato/ines solos this stage

[remote perch]

just need someone to break the box later

[vital arrow]

Just borrow either one

And fill the rest with fodders to destroy boxes and tank drones

[ivory leaf]

I can't choose on which module I should get first

[vital arrow]

Amulet

The 4 block rarely comes up

[scarlet fulcrum]

First? Its like u want unlock all? Just pick top one and stop

[ivory leaf]

Why not go for both

[scarlet fulcrum]

Sure

[ivory leaf]

I mean I can't use two mods in the same time but who knows the other might come in handy

[scarlet fulcrum]

I even mod6 my ange

[vital arrow]

Sure then

I did both

But never actually used the other one

[ivory leaf]

So who do I get first

Top or bot

[vital arrow]

Amulet

[scarlet fulcrum]

Top

[vital arrow]

Like we said before

[ivory leaf]

Alright

I'll do bot later

Time to just grind cesh

And oh right

Who should I E2

I could either go Qb or horn

[vital arrow]

Horn

[dark glade]

Why e2 qb looking like a real option huh

[vital arrow]

Is your SA S3M3

[dark glade]

Also btw

Level your e2

[scarlet fulcrum]

Horn qb and canta maybe

[dark glade]

Dont leave them at lvl 1

[ivory leaf]

I'm broke

And I will level them up after I'm done E2 my units

:DD

[ivory leaf]

Nope not yet

Haven't started on that

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ur base built?

[ivory leaf]

Uhm kinda mid

35-40k

[dark glade]

Lvl 30-40 is cheap and give good amount of stats

[scarlet fulcrum]

Looks fine for early

[ivory leaf]

Yup yup I'm also focusing on there skills

[dark glade]

dont tell me its not lvl 7

[ivory leaf]

It's level 6 chill

[dark glade]

[ivory leaf]

It's just one level missing

[vital arrow]

I'd do mastery first before module

SA is practicslly defective before M3

[scarlet fulcrum]

tbh u should worry about hoshit module later, not really prio there

[ivory leaf]

Okeh

[tiny talon]

guys is there any low end guide to clear m8 8 cm with 1 6 star or smth cuz i keep dying from mephisto DOT

[lament forum]

I need help for h13-2

[tiny talon]

what 6 stars u got

[vital arrow]

Whats M8-8 again

Lugia?

[tiny talon]

yes

[tiny talon]

for cm its lugia dot deals more dmg

[vital arrow]

Control your damage

You want to do it slowly

[tiny talon]

or should i wait until the 1st wave clear then burst it down with smth

i cna borrow surtr

[vital arrow]

Do it slowly

[tiny talon]

but the stage is divided depending on lugia phase

enemies wont spawn after 23 kills until phase 1 is down

would thorns s3m3 work in killing the peons?

?

[vital arrow]

Sure

[vital arrow]

It doesmt matter

You just make sure you dont die to the poison

Thats it

[tiny talon]

k

welp time to use 3 4 star ops or guardmiya to deal with lugia

[vital arrow]

Dont you have like

[tiny talon]

does guardmiya do too much dmg?

[vital arrow]

Better options

[tiny talon]

yeea...

[vital arrow]

Poison is every 20% HP

[paper fern]

[tiny talon]

how much dmg does poison do in cm

[vital arrow]

70/s per layer

[paper fern]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1yw411C7iy/
Try borrowing mlynar

[celest bluff]

I gonna do h13

I think I will take skalter s3

[tepid leaf]

whos GG

[glass monolith]

Goldenglow

[celest bluff]

Playing IS
Need a guard? Amiya
Need a caster? Amiya
Need a medic? Amiya

[solid dew]

cant wait for amiyaknights

[celest bluff]

Cant wait for amiya to switch class mid battle

[solid dew]

solo patriot when

[glass monolith]

If new mods still do their work sometimes then that topic is bonkable outside #cn-lounge or any specialized channel if they run any till they announce it isn't about 1 hour after stream ends

[celest bluff]

They never in this channel

[glass monolith]

Just because Thanik no longer jumpscare this chat, doesn't mean we completely safe

[celest bluff]

Place your bets

Who gonna become the next bullshit specialist

[smoky spade]

Fang 💯

[noble pewter]

medic? this is something in the future?

[latent monolith]

5th anni

Medic Amiya announced

[sharp sun]

I just wanna ask

Who do you guys consider as Meta operators and why?

[high warren]

Cn have medic amiya?
Nvm I see

[smoky halo]

mlynar yato texas degen reedic

they have big dmg

[wicked viper]

relicless is a proof of concept

Since if you can clear without relic, you can do the same but with relic

[smoky halo]

i think u sent this to the wrong channel

[wicked viper]

ye

discord randomly jump it

idk

but you can see the topic

[sharp sun]

Does having a broken support like Skalter and Suzuran make them also meta?

[sullen rover]

nope aspd relics fucks mr nothing

[smoky halo]

what

theyre meta without supports

[wicked viper]

support are not meta

[smoky halo]

supporters by nature arent "meta"

[wicked viper]

because you still need the actual buff target to buff

[smoky halo]

bc u need to support something to do anything

[wicked viper]

for example

stainless

if you dont have anyone to buff

[tired lotus]

13-5 is so easy with just penance

[vivid rain]

13-5 is just easy

[sharp sun]

So Meta is basically the operators that are good on most stages

I see

[vivid rain]

meta means most effective tactic available

so the operators that make those tactic available are meta

[rich rune]

Gentlemen, I have an idea.
I'll use Absinthe's skill 2 to get enemies to 50% HP, then use La Pluma's skill 2 to shred them with the bonus damage she gets to enemies below 50% HP.

[celest bluff]

What you gonna do? Beat LS-4 slug?

[merry narwhal]

Absinthe also has an execute, so that doesn't even work. Did you mean Delphine/Andreana?

[civic bear]

absinthe s2 only hits below 50% tho no?

[merry narwhal]

yes

[turbid badge]

yu

lol they

[rich rune]

Wait, shit you right.

[cosmic thicket]

think you might want andreana S2 instead?

oh d00m already mentioned that lol

[celest bluff]

W alter
Flinger sniper....

I not sure how to feel about this

At least they don't make flying boss

Nah they definitely did

But not a lot

[sweet marlin]

just finished anni 1, 2 and 3. whats the next easiest anni from the current batch?

[merry narwhal]

the seaborn one is super easy if you have E2 Lappland

[sweet marlin]

e1 not enough?

[merry narwhal]

e2 increases the silence to 6 seconds, but it can work even at e1, you have to try

[sweet marlin]

no e2 yet

i don't think the seaborn one is up

[merry narwhal]

Anni6 can also be cheesed if you don't destroy the bottom roadblocks

[glass monolith]

UT anni or SN anni? SN need 100% uptime which e1 don't have

[sweet marlin]

any other recommendation?

[merry narwhal]

anni 6 is the ursus one, I forgot its exact name

"Abandoned Mine"

[sweet marlin]

also not open now

[merry narwhal]

which ones are open, I cannot check rn?

[sweet marlin]

and this one

[merry narwhal]

Long Spring Wastes is extremely easy

any reaper (La Pluma, Highmore, Exec2) destroys it

[sweet marlin]

i got pretty close but at the end the bowgun dudes around the 380 kill break the wall and i lose

[merry narwhal]

you can use a puller to bring them closer into the grinder

[sweet marlin]

i tried killim them with fast redeploys before they break but not enough dmg

[merry narwhal]

I'd do something like this

a stronger ranged guard in place of Rope works too

it's almost fully AFK

[civic bear]

just need to care when the -aspd slug comes to lapluma lane

[merry narwhal]

that's what the spreadshooter is there for yeah

[civic bear]

pinecone should kill it in a few hits if afk

[merry narwhal]

reapers just almost solo the entire stage

[sweet marlin]

my problem was here

but because i had pinecone in the other tile

and other melee units in that row

[merry narwhal]

ah those snipers at the end. I just ignored them but that's because my units were maxed, so I didn't need the extra lane

you can use ifrit on that lane too, because the snipers enter the block as they attack it which gets them killed by Ifrit

[sweet marlin]

i'll try something similar to your formation and ignore that row thanks

[civic bear]

as long as u strengthen the mound they wont attack ur units so u can just let it walk in and then block them

cover for all sides

[limpid siren]

old anni

[valid crow]

How do I clear muelsyse paradox

[halcyon adder]

Not as old as u

[valid crow]

Currently starting with clone saria and placing ifrit down before swapping the clone to the chain caster and replacing ifrit with said chain caster once the drones spawn

I leak to the horde that follows the drones

Am I copying the wrong operators or is my skill timing just off

[cyan gorge]

Copy melee for first wave, recopy for a ranged clone (Dorothy is recommended) for the drone waves

[scarlet mortar]

chain casters are pretty bad to copy bc the clone doesn't have the chaining trait

so they'd just be left with a long-ass atk interval and mid atk

[valid crow]

Bet thanks

[turbid badge]

astegenne momenty

[white prairie]

I'm still stuck in h13-4 (I know, skill issue) and I'm using this squad, is there something that could be changed to be able to kill the red blobs that the sanguinarch throws every few seconds?

[somber stone]

Ifrit?

[white prairie]

Oh

OHHHH

Yeah, that could work

Time to try it with ifrit but without suzurran

[somber stone]

Maybe kaltsit to remove boss so no more red

[white prairie]

I thought that too but the level needs a lot of AOE

If ifrit can cover the lanes fine then I bring Kal'tsit and gg

[merry flint]

Could use something like gravel and a bomb to bait the puddles

[remote perch]

If only if it were that easy

[grizzled otter]

monster is getting nuked

[hasty heron]

to kill jesselton in south prison annihilation...

cant i just

[glass monolith]

No one stops you

Just mind other spawns, if you free 4 casters and I lost count archers you will have bad time

[hasty heron]

but can she deal with him

[wicked viper]

she should

[glass monolith]

He spend LONG time there

[wicked viper]

jesselton only has like 1200 def ish on phase 2

and barely any def on phase 1

[hasty heron]

lvl60 modx3 s3m3

[wicked viper]

tbh

he is not even the problem for this anni

its the chain ball guys

[hasty heron]

i dont have schwarz and i need to use the support slot for ifrit

[wicked viper]

isnt it easy to borrow typhon

while those guys technically have high def low res

[hasty heron]

then how am i going to deal with this lane

[wicked viper]

for bottom lane a lot can works no?

[hasty heron]

hnnnnng

[wicked viper]

its mainly sniper

[hasty heron]

[wicked viper]

or fia prob nuke the snipers anyway

top lane is the high pressure onee

[hasty heron]

fia's s3 has a deceptive range

its like lin range

[wicked viper]

personally

[glass monolith]

If you have Ptilo + Firewatch s2 you can literally nuke 90% of archers on bot

[wicked viper]

i prob put fia 2 tile to the left

and typhon on the tile of fia

since fia has longer range

[hasty heron]

[wicked viper]

jesselton camp on e11

[hasty heron]

now that you mention it, it does open some possibilities

fia does hit G10 right there

and the other tile below her range

[wicked viper]

wait no he camp on e12

[hasty heron]

question is if she can handle absolutely everyone there

i do have enough defenders

[wicked viper]

for general strat of killing them before they break free

[glass monolith]

And top lane can go F itself. I had no casters when that Anni was current and was balled hard

[wicked viper]

you prob can borrow eyja s2 too

[hasty heron]

💡

[wicked viper]

i used ling on reroll account

[hasty heron]

i figured it out

[wicked viper]

she works

but very tedious

[hasty heron]

fia has less dps on g10 and c10 so i put some dps oriented defenders there

ptilopsis cant stay there though.... argh

[bold lance]

Bad things will happen in those two top lanes

[wicked viper]

the mudrock lane is the tank but no dmg dude

[glass monolith]

Chain dude will break and then brazil

[hasty heron]

i never liked this annihilation

[wicked viper]

the cuora lane is the boxer and chain ball

way more dangerous

[hasty heron]

wouldnt it have been better if we gave all the inmates death penalty instead of incarcerating them then i wouldnt have to deal with this

[fickle zephyr]

if you phase transition jesselton without killing most of the casters you're going to have a not fun time

[wicked viper]

there are 3 way out of jesselton

[bold lance]

I don't think there was any problem with Fia on E8

[wicked viper]

kill all caster

[remote perch]

can't u just kill jess fast enough before the casters came out

[wicked viper]

or dont kill him, just let him pass and kill caster before him

or just

use the light

[hasty heron]

this is why i hate kernel

so many good operators i could use but are locked behind a whole other currency

[wicked viper]

dont worry about it

[hasty heron]

nop i will worry about it

where is my own ifrit

[remote perch]

in recruit

waiting for you

[hasty heron]

higher chance of me getting another thorns from recruit than getting her with top op caster

[bold lance]

In the Y1 trash box, where she belongs.

[fickle zephyr]

i chose not to get ifrit and gamble instead my last top op

[hasty heron]

if the deployment limit was at least 9, i could place horn on top lane to help

ill figure this out later

[white prairie]

Thanks to the guy who reccomended me ifrit (I needed to use a guide yet to know how the waves function but overall the ifrit recommendation saved this run)

[craggy trench]

9-14, I know how to funnel almost all of the enemies through the middle but I'm somewhat unsure what to do about the Golems. Do I try to drop the pillars on them at the outside? Seems a bit finicky to do

Or do I try to explode a guy from the outside?

So the pillar falls into the middle?

[craggy trench]

Still haven't figured how to do 9-14

[summer copper]

Challenge mode?

[cyan gorge]

My replay of the map funneled everything to left side and bombarded everything with Fiammetta

[craggy trench]

Normal mode

[craggy trench]

You didn't use the pillars?

[cyan gorge]

Not for the gargoyles

Fia killed literally everything

[craggy trench]

Huh, alright

Is it really feasible to just kill the Gargoyles if I'm not using very meta units?

[summer copper]

Anyways

I remembered u got typhon
3 op

This is emergency mode so u can apply it to normal too

[craggy trench]

Right, I see

The problem is that I was trying to do it with ops that are E1

[summer copper]

Should say it earlier

[craggy trench]

Well, I'm telling you now then

[cyan gorge]

Do you have any e2 ops?

[craggy trench]

Though, I guess it's more of a mental barrier than anything

[summer copper]

Get rid of mental barrier 💀

[craggy trench]

I do have a few but I tend to try to complete the level using the level recommendation

[cyan gorge]

So basically you’re doing a pointless self challenge

[summer copper]

Alr
I can try 3 star squad

Not guaranteed for emergency

[craggy trench]

Hmm, I didn't wan it to be phrased that way but yeah

[craggy trench]

It's fine. You don't have to do it

[summer copper]

Alr
Can only get 40 kill with 3 star

Pillars are not enough lmao

[craggy trench]

Don't quite know what the pillars on the side is for if it's so hard to trigger them in the first place

Seems a bit pointless

In any case, guess I'll just unga-bunga it

[summer copper]

I used them to block the way

So enemy's can only enter from the top

[craggy trench]

Well the ones near the left of the screen

[summer copper]

Easier to kill

[merry flint]

Doing h13-4 and managed to get to 60/75

Leaked one early on though

How can I tighten things up?

[cyan gorge]

Hard to tell without seeing what the map looked like when the leak happened

Without context, try to bring ops that can attack all blocked or have more aoe in your opening

[turbid badge]

how much dp does yato mod refund

also do pots affect?

[cyan gorge]

Logically it should

My pot 2 Yato (9 dp) refunded 7 dp upon retreat

[merry flint]

80%

Judging by zenith's comment rounded down

[worn rampart]

I want to upgrade a skill once on chen guard and a module which ones should I get?

[cyan gorge]

S3 and mod x

[summer copper]

If u can M3 the skill then it's def better

[merry flint]

It was a blood worm that I couldn't block in time around when the first heirbearer scourge was out

[worn rampart]

Thanks

[merry flint]

I'll try to get a recording

Though comp suggestions would be helpful

[mellow kindle]

How do you beat the boss stage of phantom solitaire with this team( help ahahah

(´°̥̥̥ω°̥̥̥｀)

[smoky halo]

er

do u know his mechanics

[mellow kindle]

His what?

[smoky halo]

mechanics

like what he does

[mellow kindle]

Like the stage or the operator?

[smoky halo]

the boss

do u know what the boss does

[mellow kindle]

Ish , I didn’t really get to

I’ll go look it up

[vivid rain]

Which boss are we talking

[smoky halo]

ed1

prolly

also s1m1 mlynar is krazy

[mellow kindle]

Lucian

[mellow kindle]

Yeah I’m too broke to upgrade him more

Clicked the wrong thing too

[smoky halo]

basically boss has 40% dodge while not blocked
he can also phase thru his blocker every 15s so the strat is to bait the tp skill, block with someone else then kill him

[mellow kindle]

Oh eugh

What’s his block count?

[smoky halo]

1

[mellow kindle]

Cute

Lemme go check my collectibles

They are pretty trash this time I think it’s cuz of free Murdock

Yeah…( ´Д`)y━･~~

[stable tangle]

guide for bald rocks tee says the next wave shouldnt spawn if he doesnt move past that tile hes on, but they spawn anyways. is that outdated and patched or am i just not killing it in time?

oh yah im seeing lots of youtube comment saying the adds still spawn for them. must be fixed

guess ill just borrow a surtr and call it a day

[mellow kindle]

Urm question

Does silence work on Lucian?

[tidal sedge]

No

[mellow kindle]

Damn

[tidal sedge]

For the record: if an ability an enemy has can be silenced, it'll have an X to the left of it's description instead of a bullet point.

[mellow kindle]

I see I see thank u :3

[summer copper]

Penance solos

[stable tangle]

Surtr did fine

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[summer copper]

Bet

[stable tangle]

Ty tho

[summer copper]

Typhon+mountain can beat emergency

[stable tangle]

Got neither of those so I'll have to try something else when I go back to try that :p

[summer copper]

Bet

[stable tangle]

I've got decent e2s I'm sure I'll figure something out

[worn rampart]

what module should i use for chen guard someone said x but there not called that

[vivid rain]

the name of the module is different but on display it's module X

[vivid rain]

in game it's called Rhodes Island Standard Combat Sword

[worn rampart]

ty

[merry flint]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pVCm4BmWTU

the yalter deploy at 2:30 was definitely a blunder

but this is my overall strat

any tips?

[celest bluff]

What is texalt for

[merry flint]

had her on s2 for picks before, but decided to use s3 for aoe

[cyan gorge]

Bag feels like a wasted slot imo, you can easily adjust for the extra 6 less initial dp from what I saw

[stable tangle]

LOL I THOUGHT YOU MEANT SOLOS THE BOSS.
i just looked up a video cuz i was curius. she literally solos the stage god damn you go girl

[scarlet fulcrum]

Kill or distract enemies by block in top before cart goes there, thats wasted effort for cart there

[celest bluff]

I wonder

now with texalt how chapter 8 clear will look like

[scarlet fulcrum]

Spamming texalt surely

[pliant furnace]

can someone tell me hhow tf this boss works
why is it so tanky

and why tf does it kill my spalter and surtr like wtf

[cyan gorge]

Boss phase 1 respawns infinitely until alter is bombed, phase 2 has 90% damage reduction unless bombed

what stage are you doing?

[pliant furnace]

H3

Also why tf does this thing just die

[remote perch]

boss delete the bomb spawner if u hit it with a bomb during p2

[cyan gorge]

Conditon for H13-3 is all ops below 25% hp are instant retreated

when boss is in phase 2

[pliant furnace]

ohhhhh

i popped spalter skill and she just disapeared lol

[cyan gorge]

anti immortality tech be like

[pliant furnace]

so if i bomb the boss once its already good right

i dont need to bomb it again

[cyan gorge]

the stagger duration is very very short

then goes right back to 90% reduction

[pliant furnace]

so i need to burst it down right after i bomb it?

[somber falcon]

Yeah
Iirc 10s on normal and 5s on h stages

[remote perch]

15 on all
h4 is 10

[pliant furnace]

does true dmg work

[remote perch]

true dmg does bypass his dr, yes

[noble pewter]

For the opening don't need use surtr do bottom, can save for top whip earlier use, then u can have her earlier for 2nd whip, one texasalter s3 opening when leech come near deploy middle all shield guard n leech will die

[noble pewter]

Also use Yalter s3, is better than s2 cause u can poke 2 square away, cause u r using s2 near whip dude n retreating her, the whip get +15% hp heal n more atk everytime u retreat ops near him, u r healing more than dmging him if use Yalter s2

With Yalter s3, she has iframe n u can kill the row of leeches b4 they get near the whip dude, cause in ur attempt u let the leeches line up in front hoshi near the whip dude, that's why he get strong as ur ifrit kill all the leeches near him

Also the bomb u moved it timing bad cause u let it near whip dude n just stop there, cause boss cast blood mist on it n it reawaken all the undestroyed crystals nearby, giving more bodies for whip dude

[glass monolith]

I had case when he dropped me from 69% max hp to 24% max hp... Piece of sh- boss

[raven wraith]

Is there any Strat for h13-4 without Mylnar or Reed alter(or just need one of them from the friend support)

[glass monolith]

I used Surtr Suzu Mlynar video i found on youtube as core of my clear

First time i used Surtr since forever

[noble pewter]

Kyo guide uses mlynar n no Reed, eyjaberry can be replaced by nightingale n suzu position shifted behind

[worn rampart]

WHAT SKILL ON guard chen should i upgrade

[scarlet fulcrum]

S3 and sp mod3 preferred, tho she is just not preferred in general

So just save for better unit

[halcyon adder]

I have chen fully masteried and mod3ed. And she still fells pathetic unless u buff her

[merry narwhal]

what are they talking about, doesn't Yato2 also just die in 1 or 2 hits?

[civic bear]

s3 spam till she dies

[foggy grove]

that's more like hit and run
what is 1 vs 1 anyhow

[celest bluff]

Should I throw 350k on nightingale rn

I have a squad that just said kill

[civic bear]

1v1 doesnt have to be manfight brah

[jagged wadi]

Isn’t Yato a two star operator?

What am I missing.

[celest bluff]

How long you did not playing

[jagged wadi]

I just got into this game about a year ago.

Not even.

[smoky halo]

when ppl talk abt yato its mostly yalter

if theyre talking abt 2star yato they usually specify it

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yato and yato2*

[celest bluff]

yato and yalter

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yato is yato

[celest bluff]

[ivory leaf]

Any suggestions?

I wanna E1-2 someone cuz I'm bored

(besides horn)

[cyan gorge]

Qiubai

[ivory leaf]

Okay I'll list that

Anything else?

[cyan gorge]

Personal bias, but Quercus and Ethan (just for module access)

[cosmic thicket]

e1 base slaves (perfumer, vermeil, roberta, frostleaf when you get her)

I do second the qiubai pick

[signal lichen]

i have a techncical question about damazti cluster and how its possible to skip his 4th clone. I seen a few different clears now on en rec but not really understanding the skip

[cosmic thicket]

basically when the cluster is casting its "drone on ops" attack, it's basically 8-9 seconds of the boss not being able to do anything else
so if you go from 51% HP to 0% HP in that window you skip the 4th clone

[limpid pumice]

how do people clear this map om

[cyan gorge]

With pain and suffering

[limpid pumice]

time to look up guides...

[cosmic thicket]

exec helps a lot, myrtle kinda does nothing here I feel

same with bag actually

[limpid pumice]

picked her as support for fast gen at the start

[cosmic thicket]

I used ines s2 and canta s1 for my vanguards

[signal lichen]

ah life line burst

[vivid rain]

damazti busting all over my ops

[signal lichen]

so true

[cosmic thicket]

this + yato alt S3 was my squad that cleared, goldenglow was just a cart slave

[limpid pumice]

my saria isnt e2 😭

for now

[cyan gorge]

This was my clear squad

[cosmic thicket]

u just need a tank for the guy's 2nd phase

[limpid pumice]

oh he doesnt 1shot ur ops?

[cosmic thicket]

no

[limpid pumice]

i guess that was a buff for 13-3

[cosmic thicket]

it's just for H13-3 yeah

but saria under NG survives that too

25 res and 15% DR goes hard

[limpid pumice]

btw does the mobs after 50 spawn when you clear like everything on the maps? or is it only after u reach phase 2 boss

[signal lichen]

at 25% hp or below he ohkos

on 13-3

actually its "forcible retreat" so i think that removes even stuff like dolls

[cyan gorge]

Yeah it bypasses immortality

[signal lichen]

when they realize they gave us to many immortal ops

so they do this

[glass monolith]

And i respond like this

[signal lichen]

real

[limpid pumice]

my ass keeps putting mylnar facing top instead of right 😭

[signal lichen]

i ended up just ambusher cc nuking him in the top lane

[limpid pumice]

@*'!'@$#$(

[tepid leaf]

where does the instigator come from in 12-19?

[cyan gorge]

one on bottom right, another on top left

[tepid leaf]

how am i supposed to kill the top left..

i even lost a point from somewhere i dont even know

can ling solo?

[cyan gorge]

If you can both block civis and kill drones then you can attempt

[tepid leaf]

civis?

[cyan gorge]

the civilians you need to reveal

on top of other mobs

I parked Fartooth top left to kill both drones and the instigator, and Kyato for the bottom right one

[smoky halo]

marksman

they have shit low def

[limpid pumice]

IM FREE

[tepid leaf]

oh oki will try

[turbid badge]

phonor o look op

frfr

[celest bluff]

roberta,

Just a 25%

[merry flint]

Finally

[celest bluff]

Okay

How I gonna do H13 2-4 without squad like you guys

[merry flint]

This was my team

[celest bluff]

My caster department is.. lacking

[halcyon adder]

Casters not needed

U do need pretty strong dps tho

[celest bluff]

I pretty sure Ifrit is for debuff

[halcyon adder]

She helps a bit

[merry flint]

Ifrit is for blood amber

Not debuff

But yea, without her, you need more aoe for blood amber

[glass monolith]

I did H13-2/3 without "squad like you guys"
And H13-4... Sadly i have tough week and not enough free time to continue malding that shit

[celest bluff]

You using 5* only arent you

[merry flint]

What's your roster?

[halcyon adder]

I tried using pozy in chap 13 and was disappointed

[glass monolith]

Me coping H13-2: #strategy message
Me coping H13-3: #strategy message
Me accepting that i succ and rarity abusing H13-4: #strategy message

[fiery marsh]

Just found time to do H and did 13-21 yesterday
Now i need to do h3 and 4 but probally will be tomorrow, dont have a single idea what is begin considered "meta" here tho

[glass monolith]

Starts on M ends on lynar

[fiery marsh]

And i leveled irene just because found her cool and she ended begin pretty good in H2.
Not that what she did couldnt be done by othet units

[fiery marsh]

Oh yeah that one cannot be ignored

[merry flint]

Mlynar, suzu, reed alter, ifrit, surtr, eyja

Some meat shields and a strong healer

True damage is good for emergency in p2

[lethal dragon]

Ifrit gaming

Stronk

[narrow patrol]

I take to it this roster simy@wont cut it for this stage?

Got no reliable way to murk the sarkaz casters which allows the units to flood past my defender

S4-10

[plush widget]

Do you want some quick tips

Lvl up one of your four stars to e2

Then just borrow a texalter support

Stall with tanks and healer

[narrow patrol]

Trying to do it without support so I can farm

Also I can try to e2 click but they need those man games ecrystals

And farming them is a bitch

Manganese those stupid purple things that are rare

The problem is on the lower lane the tank gets hit by the caster and the units overwhelm the relatively weak back line

And I can’t have my defenders tank the casters since they have no res

Can only farm em reliably@in 4-7 and even then it’s not exactly guranteed

[plush widget]

Rip

[ivory nimbus]

Have you tried spawn killing them with Jaye or anyone with Silence? It will crippled them of their very annoying ability.

[narrow patrol]

I can’t spawn kill em that’s the thing especially the ones that spawn on the upper right lane

I need more unit variety at the moment as I have a pitifully small roster as a new doctor

I’m gonna need 30 of those crystals for click and my plans to e2 Mylnar once I buy the six star selector too and stage 4-7 is really the only place I can farm those things at the moment and@it’s not a guranteed drop

Nor samity@efficient (been dumping a lot@of sanity here for the last few days and a turnout of 1 to 2 crystals is eh)

[latent monolith]

I don't think S4-10 is worth farming for any material tho?

[narrow patrol]

My only real options are s1 Jaye and Lapland

[ivory nimbus]

Can you show me your roster? (Even better with a Krooster account.)

[narrow patrol]

I got no krooster

[narrow patrol]

Only@place I can farm coolant get.

[plush widget]

Bugsks

[narrow patrol]

All I got sorted by class… so yeah@not a lot@of options

[latent monolith]

Why not try and go for S5-7 if that's an option

[narrow patrol]

I’ll just farm more manganese ore for now

I can’t

[latent monolith]

If you don't need gel immediately

[narrow patrol]

Access yet to s5-7

I’m struggling too much@with chapter 5 and need more units

For@example I’d want@cuora for an overall better defender

So I’m just@farming what@I can and trying to see who I can e2

Most@likely gonna go for@click and cutter…….. then Ines and Mylnar

[ivory nimbus]

Okay, I think I know what to do with those Caster.

Use bait.

[narrow patrol]

Problem is

Well I can’t exactly spawn kill the one that pops up on the upper right

And ground unit placement on the narrow lanes is pretty bad

[ivory nimbus]

You can use someone as a sacrificial pawn right at the entrance to tank the Caster skill while the enemies slipping past get shredded.

Yato will do.

Even.

Once that skill pop, they're easy game.

[narrow patrol]

For click well

I need manganese crystals

Lots of em

And I feel like this stage@isn’t worth the farm as I just get 2 or 3 a day after dumping a lot of sanity on it

God dammit

I also need those things to make the manganese cubes for incandescent allloy for Mylnar

I’m boned XD

[remote perch]

why do u not want to use support? not like your farming s4-10

[latent monolith]

The next event shop in a couple days has 15 gel

You can just grind a few low lvl stages when the event drops and get it

[rare skiff]

My first time here, i need help...
With this i can just let the enemy in and sleep right? But how about Elite/Bosses would it work?

[narrow patrol]

Because the intent is to farm s4-10 for coolant

Kinda need it for something Ines needs for e2

And cutter

And then there’s the manganese ore

Damn looks like my plan to e2 Mylnar early is gonna have to go out the window

[latent monolith]

What is Ines E2 mat again

Next event shop might have that too

[remote perch]

i mean, letting enemies in is bad idea cuz ur just increasing your collapse lol, and your hp is way too low

[latent monolith]

It does have the tier 4 gel tho

I would suggest farming chips or smth with your sanity if you haven't already in the meantime

Or maybe base materials

Because the event is going to be quite good

[rare skiff]

But does it work or nah?

[remote perch]

you mean letting the elite/boss leak? ofc it will

[remote perch]

https://youtu.be/UMlmWNrF0bU?si=AOlo7ABW6W7lJebW

can't u like just search for a guide at this point

[ivory nimbus]

Have you tried turning 4-7 into a firing hell and just eliminating everything from a distance? Aside from the spiders at the entrance, which you can quickly dispose of them with Jaye and Lappland, everything else is relatively squishy, and the one that's dangerous can be tank by your Defender with some healing.

[rare skiff]

"Strategy" 100

Ok seap0rn

[remote perch]

i mean i can just copy the vid and sent my "clear" here for him to copy and it will still result in the same shit

[rare skiff]

Bro better get out of here

[narrow patrol]

For the dual chips I got 8 vanguard chip packs

And enough of the stuff to craft em in workshop

[noble pewter]

3000 dmg is not a lot, especially if high diff or emotional entity, unless u have infinite life pts

[remote perch]

i mean aren't u the one who's supposed to get out of here
#is-station exist for your newbie IS question

[narrow patrol]

Kinda wanted to e2 Ines early and Mylnar

[latent monolith]

Next event shop has 15 gel should be enough for both

[rare skiff]

We discuss strategies big and small, not copying YouTube links

[narrow patrol]

Does it have manganese ore

[latent monolith]

Yes

15 of that too

[narrow patrol]

Because holy shit I’m gonna need that. And incandescent alloy and d32 steel

[rare skiff]

Thanks, Finally someone to exchange information that is actually useful love you

[narrow patrol]

Guess imma farm some guard packs first

[latent monolith]

You can get 1 d32

Not sure about alloy since I don't know the crafting materials for that

[noble pewter]

Do I spy a golden chalice n 50 ingots, why would u even want leak anything

[latent monolith]

But seems to be no

[remote perch]

[latent monolith]

Btw the event shop also has poly prep so you may have been able to save materials there

If you're a new player (or even old player tbh) it's wise to check upcoming event rewards before farming stuff

[narrow patrol]

Gonna need a few for@cutter as I got the 8 packs on hand mainly for Mylnar

[rare skiff]

Just in case

[narrow patrol]

I got the poly prep for Ines ready but I’ll probably buy that stuff anyway@for another e2

Hmmmmm gonna need more manganese ore

Ok I need 4 d32 steel

Aaand okay turns out I can save up all that manganese for click and cutter

[ivory leaf]

Is Aosta worth the drag?

[limpid siren]

Worth the drag? Like raising?

I’d avoid him if that’s what you’re asking

[ivory leaf]

Yup yup

[limpid siren]

Stunted range makes his gimmick annoying to work with, and his sp cost is too high for what the skills offer

[ivory leaf]

Why am I getting trashy five stars😔

I mean not trashy

[limpid siren]

There’s a lot of 5*s and many of them will feel under budget for power

[ivory leaf]

Welp Welp time to save up again and do another for kaltsit

[limpid siren]

[ivory leaf]

Must get wifey

[next cradle]

Any advice for H8-4? It’s the last mission before I’ve full cleared everything, regular and challenge, through Ep 8.

[smoky halo]

bring ng

[cyan gorge]

bring 3 blockers, borrow a Nightingale, and a bunch of bodies to break crystals/block fireballs

[next cradle]

Fair, medics are definitely where I’m weakest unfortunately. My only 6* is Kal’tsit who’s not really applicable here and my only good 5* is Warfarin.

[celest bluff]

Chances of rng fucking me over?

[peak cloak]

what for?
Waai fu?

[celest bluff]

ye

[peak cloak]

Specialist debuff or frd debuff is enough

[celest bluff]

The slight chance of the god to drop one tag

[peak cloak]

and pray :D

[tidal sedge]

I'll never understand why I keep becoming victim to some of the weirdest shit this game has to offer.

[celest bluff]

I just plop lappland at that place

You mean the bug?