Costly. Only option I have really is Ines
#strategy
narrow patrol
I need more variety as it is and my roster is small
Better defenders for one thing
noble pewter
costly but will be worth it long run 
like.. rather than a variety of e1 which might not be good, might as well have a stable good e2 maybe
narrow patrol
And she can’t cover everything
noble pewter
but hmm yea i guess u could invest in some 4 star defender that r capable of being e2 as spot n beagle r indeed at their limit
narrow patrol
5-4 and 5-6 are examples of maps where she didn’t get to do much…. Again I DONT have any other defenders
I need more snipers and my only other options really are shirayuki and meteor
noble pewter
I need more snipers and my only other options really are shirayuki and meteor
why dont u just e2 the archetto..i dont think u need any other sniper if u have an e2 archetto unless the map has like 4 different flyer entry points or sth
narrow patrol
I meant for maps where 2 snipers don’t cut it
I struggled in 5-2 and 5-4 over lack of anti air aside from those two and I had to do a lot to keep em from dying as I was boned if I lost either
New doctor so I’m not sure I can e2 them
noble pewter
if u e2 archetto she does have s3 which incr her range n makes her atk 2 enemies at the same time though but yea just a thought
noble pewter
I struggled in 5-2 and 5-4 over lack of anti air aside from those two and I had ...
when u say lose the archer unit, 
r u implying they r being atked? if so it might mean u are deploying ur melee units first before the archers which cause them to take aggro
u can also try to deploy lighter melee unit hold line, deploy archer, then replace lighter melee with another to reapply aggro
if u let archers keep getting atked, it is burden for ur healer to heal as well as they need split heal btw melee n archer n archer take more dmg from the drones cause they have lower def
ivory leaf
What if you use bait? (Not really smart but what if?)
scarlet fulcrum
Oh this stage still having this feature 
narrow patrol
Gummy!
scarlet fulcrum
The runner will stop if u push to top, unique stage
ivory leaf
I’m really tempted to do a single 10 pull on how but
What are your units anyways
lethal dragon
latent anvil
ivory nimbus
merry narwhal
the Ebenholz map 🥹
ivory nimbus
Idk wtf am I looking at here. Couldn't guessed the enemies pathing with how convoluted it looked.
It look so weird.
merry narwhal
forgor the flyers, they go to the right blue box so your defender can just catch them
the flyers only spawn after the artillery is gone, so you can use the left highground lane to snipe them with Ebenholz
hasty heron
can someone give me a stage example where i would use jessicat's s2 instead of s3
im having a tough time figuring that one out
cyan gorge
I haven't used Jessicat that much outside IS4, I end up using s2 often there
tidal sedge
If tanking with dodge would be better than tanking with def
Oh. Stage example. Hmm.
In her own event, tanking Cliff's special attack would be more likely with s2 if her def is already gutted
cyan gorge
Flametail can do the same thing
tidal sedge
The rapid attacking during s2 could also be used for hit count mechanics ig
hasty heron
hmmm
i do have gravel for that, but i suppose it could work if it's just out of a normal range
cyan gorge
I would see it's use against a swarm of low def enemies that have ranged damage
wider range than s3
tidal sedge
When she gets her module her s2 range would be similarly nice for invis reveal
hasty heron
her module gives her invis reveal?
cyan gorge
it's fun to use her shield to redirect herself to target multiple lanes
tidal sedge
Yes.
cyan gorge
sentinel mods give invis reveal in range as base effect
scarlet mortar
beyond that, just a sturdier shield
scarlet mortar
can someone give me a stage example where i would use jessicat's s2 instead of s...
think i'm enjoying S2 more than S3 tbh
tidal sedge
Shield summon lasts longer and gets more stats
scarlet mortar
the SP gain's still there
tidal sedge
It doesn't affect that. That's probably what her eventual 2nd mod will do
scarlet mortar
yh that's for the other potential branch
scarlet mortar
think i'm enjoying S2 more than S3 tbh
S3 has tech but it's kinda sweaty
and idt just turning her into a dps op with autos is as fun
the cannon shots are extremely good if you can utilize them tbh, easily the better half of the skill
tidal sedge
She's a more fun op than I expected. Surprising amount of decision making with her
Using shield for tanking, sp, direction switch, s3 bombs, when to keep or retreat it for such purposes
S3 being ammo based makes it funny for certain tanking purposes too. Like facing her backwards to indefinitely soak bone throwers and the like
I should go for her on her rerun
fleet prism
hello i just max out my passenger what module you guys think is the best for him 
cyan gorge
Damage mod (Gold of Crowns) if you use him with sp batteries (Ptilo, Stainless s2), otherwise sp mod (Electromagnetic Regulator) is fine
tidal sedge
I seriously have to wait 40 seconds for another bomb in 13-15?
peak cloak
Skullshatterer destroys me at 2-10 with ranged aoe
dont clump your ops xD
modern copper
dont clump your ops xD
Don't huh?
tidal sedge
Okay. 13-15 is pretty fun now that I understand it
modern copper
Hey Sigma's which ones the best
I'm thinking breeze cus I have no multitarget healers
But you tell me
halcyon adder
Don't ever call us sigma
cosmic thicket
Anyway pick honeyberry
as much as i love honeyberry she is absolutely not the pick
wandering medics are situational QOL these days
waxen swan
Don't ever call us sigma
Fanum tax
Im just saying honey because he wanted medic
If he wanted what the best in red i would say ethan
cosmic thicket
honeyberry healing is also hot garbage
waxen swan
It wasn't back than 
cosmic thicket
like her hps is comparable to ansel iirc
yeah it's worse than ansel at similar levels of investment
waxen swan
south bone
It's wandering medic that's not eyjalter for god sake
their non-elemental healing is barely there
tidal sedge
Why not take Ethan?
hasty heron
something ive been wondering in that one annihilation
cant i just put chongyue there in place of blaze?
** **
cyan gorge
a lot of bullies run through that lane, so good luck blocking them with 1 block Chongyue
hasty heron
a defender in place of myrtle once i build enough dp, obviously
full finch
yeah blez is there for 3 block
1 defender isn't going to be enough unless you've got plenty of DPS aimed there, and are paying attention to activate them
remote perch
what if the snipers target chong
checkmate
scarlet fulcrum
That guy could borrow like GG mizuki or whatever arts dps is to help, surely just trivial, or just put block below him
Stunner as always, just bait
full finch
CC gone 
scarlet fulcrum
new season, u already bought all from shop i believe
full finch
can't remember, but I think I was sitting on like 5k cc currency lol
didn't think cc1 would be anytime soon
scarlet fulcrum
Most from perma shop related to medals except flags, the rest just pots tokens and rerun skins. So yeah i think u wont miss em
tidal sedge
Is JT8-2 the only good place to farm Coagulating Gel? I ran out of those
cyan gorge
Best stage for gel is 10-3 iirc
weak gazelle
i think yeah, idr tho
tidal sedge
I see
peak cloak
cc gone 😔
south bone
Hehe boi
waxen swan
Gimmick weird
undone crypt
for 9-19, is there any particular operators good for stalling mandragora that isnt a 6*? dont have a lotta good ops
weak gazelle
her atk are arts (so asbestos the best choice for that) and she go flying at p2
so the pillars is one of your best countermeasure
undone crypt
hmm, dont got asbestos
is the requirement that u need someone with 20 res?
weak gazelle
not really
depend on your roster first
maybe show it here can give us a better idea
undone crypt
sure, how many pics of it should i include? 2-3?
weak gazelle
1-2 enough
your main roster
undone crypt
weak gazelle
i see
guess borrow yatoalter would be nice choice
the idea is when boss reach p2 you try to drop pillar on her so she knocked down
within that time frame you burst it
full finch
ideas for JT8-3 four op?
hasty heron
kessoku bard
full finch
whisp mtn gladiia flametail failed
hasty heron
undone crypt
the idea is when boss reach p2 you try to drop pillar on her so she knocked down...
gotcha, guess i'll borrow then
is 9-19 particularly good for farming any mat?
scarlet fulcrum
Yes rma
full finch
rma is still 4-9
scarlet fulcrum
Nah 9-19 better
undone crypt
idk who to believe 
weak gazelle
uhh 4 op jt8-3
idk, xolli
really forgot how that map work
scarlet fulcrum
Believe in bot spam, thats what ppl do
scarlet fulcrum
idk dude my luck sail on 9-19. Sucks at other story node
But yeah just farm which best node u can auto. Or just dont at a
At all
Story node bad tbh
weak gazelle
guess that back to how fast to clear it right
the fastest the better
full finch
issue with whisp is that she dies in p2 when black snake detonates ignites
when overlapping with another detonate
weak gazelle
ignites can be resisted right?
full finch
yeah but black snake detonates right after ignite
scarlet fulcrum
When will we get rma events for the future? I cant rmb
weak gazelle
whisp mod1 in theory should be enough to cancel it
scarlet fulcrum
Oh wait shu event 💀 still long
weak gazelle
lol
uhh so placement is the thing to improve
full finch
I could move gladiia but idk if she survives firewaves with only 80% healing
worth a shot ig
weak gazelle
Oh wait shu event 💀 still long
i buy from store
and gladly no huge rma demand rn
scarlet fulcrum
Mine already on low number, this mat just pain even in events node
full finch
time to wait a while
weak gazelle
yes
this particular mats sometime got on my nerve
anyway why flametail?
for early rush?
weak gazelle
thinking ines would be better
weak gazelle
ohh nice
weak gazelle
lost the -atk debuff rng?
full finch
yeah probably bad rng
weak gazelle
good luck malding rng
full finch
might try someone else tbh
doubt hellagur would live
saria would easily work but damage wher
scarlet fulcrum
Eun? Spalter?
full finch
oh spalter would probably work
might even be able to live firewaves without retreating lol
scarlet fulcrum
Eun also works last time tried, gud for ballsac too
scarlet fulcrum
scarlet fulcrum
Thicc
full finch
a mere 10k HP
tidal sedge
I really wish when the boss has some kind of annoying global range skill there is some kind of visible meter or timer for it
full finch
would be pretty neat actually
strange fable
Whisperain skin 
limpid siren
wtf only p5
full finch
I used my 5⭐ selector from last anniv to p5 her 
ionic mortar
I have having trouble with 10-4
atomic monolith
Hmmm Catknights?
civic bear
Meow I guess?
void terrace
Is aak a feline?
peak cloak
his race is feline, u can find this information easily
heady osprey
Help please understand the mechanics, I do not understand what units to pump, how to put them, etc.
ivory nimbus
Help please understand the mechanics, I do not understand what units to pump, ho...
Can you explain what mechanics are you having trouble with?
marble nebula
I have having trouble with 10-4
this?
ionic mortar
It's done already
atomic monolith
celest solstice
short version - Rush bomb before being overwhelmed
yeah thats what I did
those mfers, HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KILL LIKE 8 OF THOSE MFERS IN 1 GO
glass monolith
Blood slimes or?
glass monolith
Blood whatever, i doubt someone purposefully remember second world
Reaper archetype. Spreadshooter archetype. Chain/Blast/Splash casters. Flingers.
All blood slimes revive on altar (exception boss fight) so they each time have to walk all that way so you can just gun them down
latent monolith
You really want some form of true aoe damage
Pinecone is more than enough
They're quite squishy, you don't have to block them to kill
glass monolith
Outside of maybe 13-20 where alter is located 2 tiles away from blue box 
Or which one has that funny altar
vital arrow
Mfw exalt exists
glass monolith
He isn't for my "no 6* gaming"
frigid spear
3- 3 I need a lil help
The ranged people that appear at the top left destroy same of my stuff
And drones get through
ivory nimbus
Pinecone is more than enough
Pinecone shred them in 2 shots, as demonstrated by Mr. Silvergun.
frigid spear
Also the boss does kill a few of my ops
ivory nimbus
You can hold them at the chokepoint bridge to and focus on mowing them down there. As for Crown Slayer, killing her is about as simple as placing a Pusher, and use their S2 to to push CS into a hole.
Oh, and they'll be 1 straggler Sniper at the end that'll break off from the bottom left enemy line and b-line to the top left blue box, so make sure to get someone to eliminate them.
dapper moat
Is my team good?
polar crane
for which stage
drowsy jewel
atomic monolith
So, I've already decided on getting Ascalon and Ella. What can be said about Shu, Zuo, Virtuoso, viviana and the 6* hunter to make me wanna pull?
polar crane
So, I've already decided on getting Ascalon and Ella. What can be said about Shu...
shu is good guardian, she make your team almost immortal.
arturia good in general 
, very nice range on s3 and 12k damage (or24k if you proc twice).
viviana bad lol, idk about zuole he is just another laneholder.
I dont have ray or build ela to give opinion 
atomic monolith
Damn thanks
Virtuosa is a def pull for me then, still on the ropes for Shu
And i have 6+ lane holders built
So Zuo Lee can suck it in the grass Fields
Ray.... low-key hating on her because people are saying she's replacing Pozëmka lol
And Ela is also a goal of mine along with Ascalon
peak cloak
Ray.... low-key hating on her because people are saying she's replacing Pozëmka ...
nothing stings badly like truth. Pozy can do what ray cant and vice versa and the help channel showed u that. did u read those messages carefully before "low key hating on her (Ray)", cuz it's making no sense.
no matter what, she ,Pozyomka is still in top of best snipers in Arknights
peak cloak
who next to?
quick pecan
people like to call out units shit once a unit they believe is always better comes out
atomic monolith
That dick ranged rabbit
peak cloak
excuse me, am i talking with a mindless pozy fan?
atomic monolith
quick pecan
i don’t know are you willing to explain why ray is seen as better instead of resorting to insults
clearly they’re asking why ray is better
cyan gorge
It's not like Pozy got any worse by Ray existing so why does it even matter
peak cloak
u dont have to quote me that, i have seen the whole thing.
and people in help already write that so i dont have to repeat again.
atomic monolith
Yeah it's alright lol
quick pecan
ray is closer to schwarz in design than pozy anyway
the difference being she has a better range than schwarz, cycles better, and is a better buff target.
pozy leans more into dps and total damage, ray leans more into dph + faster cycling.
atomic monolith
I somehow need to get it through my skull that Ray might be better than Pozëmka and me buying her from that 6* selector may have been a waste
peak cloak
drop your ego and hear me out.
it's not gonna a waste, tbh, and as i wrote, no matter what, Pozy is and will be one of the best snipers in the game. again, i'm not gonna bring "who is stronger" stuff in help to there cuz first, it's pointless, useless and second, things showed, opinions posted.
i'm here to chill u out before u started talking shits unnecessary.
quick pecan
people have this idea that the units we used before just die in viability the second a new unit comes out
atomic monolith
Ok, my mind is at ease. So I'm safe not pulling for Ray right? I don't need her
quick pecan
it’s honestly very weird
lapis hornet
you don't need anyone
cyan gorge
No one needs anything
peak cloak
so no need to full blow your anger toward Ray, bullshit after all
lapis hornet
weird question
quick pecan
like ppl clear a lot of these stages with nicheknights + low rarity so your slightly "worse" 6* is still better than a lot of that
at the end of the day opinions on powercreep can be misguided at best and baseless at worst
you can even see some people say degen > mlynar
when both are extremely strong units
yet their justification can lack practicality or nuance
lapis hornet
degen > mlynar
honestly tho just use what you want
ppl said blaze was dead back in 2021 including lot of ppl in this channel
and she's still one of my most used in 2024
that said ray and zuo look p good
limpid siren
maybe that's why you couldn't beat cv-ex-8
lapis hornet
ikr
lapis hornet
meta should be something just meant to guide new players
ppl get too wrapped up in it
cyan gorge
Meta is whatever kills the enemies before they kill you
lapis hornet
honestly tier list based on who shows up more often in yt guides probs more relevant for most ppl lmao
limpid siren
kinda true tho
glass monolith
Meta is winning majority of content with least brain power needed.
Or big braining win on content you not suppose to nuke and nuke it anyway
cosmic thicket
Meta is whatever kills the enemies before they kill you
meta is not playing AK because there are no enemies in the first place
glass monolith
meta is not playing AK because there are no enemies in the first place
Start up idea: "find yourself an enemy" app
cosmic thicket
~~Start up idea: "find yourself an enemy" app~~
that's called twitter
full finch
"meta" mainly consists of
- how often they are valuable
- how high their raw effectiveness is
rich rune
I just got Swire from recruitment. Is she worth building?
rich rune
she's garbage
As a Trashknigjts enthusiast, you had me there.
limpid siren
arknights is forced into the "most effective tactics available" definition
making the use of the term as like a singular thing less sensible
celest bluff
Whatever
limpid siren
fun stage
limpid siren
i didn't like ch12
full finch
which part
limpid siren
literally all of it
full finch
can't be worse than ch11 rocket cars right
celest bluff
What is ch12 again
limpid siren
can't be worse than ch11 rocket cars right <:ExuStare:642065770527850512>
it just blocks a bunch of units i enjoy using
full finch
at least I have enough rarity aboos for variety
sweet marlin
is4 starter recommendations?
limpid siren
generally just any trio that can dish out aoe damage and has some block count
reaper start is still decent as ever
full finch
I heard flameshadow popukar orchid was good
sweet marlin
i know for is2 thorns, ling and pozy are popular starters. texas for is3
so i was wondering whats good in is4
halcyon adder
For now reed popular orchid is the best starter
regal pagoda
turbid badge
i didn't find the chapter that hard
what was the strat
maiden spire
Is there a way to kill the new boss faster? Using gg, eyja s2, Kal S3, plus surtr/Texalter s2 alternately and it still takes forever to kill him 
am I doing something wrong or he's just that spongy?
remote perch
Use the bomb
glass monolith
You need to fail your safety exam and drive bomb into boss then press all your nukes
remote perch
Literally nuke it
tidal sedge
In phase 2 he has 90% phys/arts damage reduction until he's hit by a bomb
I just dropped Ntrk on him and spammed buffs and heals
maiden spire
Use the bomb
Oh, i mean the second phase, not first one, on the first one I used the bomb
tidal sedge
You still have bombs for 2nd phase
maiden spire
ooh, ok you were talking about second phase huh
I'll try again, didn't think I could use it against him
glass monolith
You have limited uses, as boss will kill bomb spawn after he is bombed from it. If you took your time (OR BECAUSE THEY MOVE 5 TILES PER 20 SECONDS) you can summon another one from spawner before boss kill it
glass monolith
On 4th year of AK Hypergryph realized they need to give bosses damage reduction which reduces true damage as well
tidal sedge
I'm glad he doesn't resist true damage. He's so obnoxious.
I'm sick of bosses with global range harassment skills
glass monolith
He isn't? I seen someone complain he does. And personally don't care, i abuse damage reduction of my own
limpid siren
what was the strat
hmm?
maiden spire
I'm glad he doesn't resist true damage. He's so obnoxious.
I used Kal and it still took a while to take him out
tidal sedge
He still has 100k hp
Plus he puts up that aspd debuff aura, it's not surprising it'd take multiple s3 uses
glass monolith
Damn i am curious now give me a moment i will true damage that ass
limpid siren
valarqvin on that 12k damage every 45s grindset
limpid siren
haven't really enjoyed a boss fight in a while tbh
tidal sedge
Change skill timings just a itty bitty bit and I eat stuns where other runs didn't have them.
glass monolith
Okay True damage works on boss who said me otherwise is goo goo ga ga, now i sleep because i am not using true damage on boss anyway
limpid siren
franka still gets stopped by DR
i still haven't done 13-21
farming funny red certs
the team i have will probably just stall
glass monolith
At least she is 1 block so no blood shits blocked in her face, also should have enough HP to be kept above dead
limpid siren
glass monolith
Boss and funny whip dude go brrrr highlight how great having 1 block is sometimes
limpid siren
yea
tidal sedge
Anyhow. Ntrk would not be doing this much damage if his damage reduction worked vs true damage
glass monolith
I was misinformed. Hypergryph still didn't learn to give boss true damage immunity when everyone has at least E2 Amiya at that point of game
tidal sedge
I think it's intentional in this case
The climatic fight is Logos and Amiya vs Sanguinarch
limpid siren
the rarity of true damage is also definitely intentional
tidal sedge
Makes sense to make her effective vs him
limpid siren
yea
patriot as a boss in 7-18 was perfectly set up for amiya s3 to dunk on him
like seriously tailor made
tidal sedge
Amiya doesn't have to worry about the aspd debuff either unlike Kal and Ntrk
Then again, she risks distracted targeting with all the spawn around
glass monolith
Amiya doesn't have to worry about the aspd debuff either unlike Kal and Ntrk
You doubt my ability to fuck up placement of ranged units against melee boss?
tidal sedge
So pick your poison ig
limpid siren
amiya needing ~2 cycles to down him would also feel grim
tidal sedge
Yeah, she's more supplemental damage. Or an out if your dps is so lacking you run out of bombs
tidal sedge
Stalling him is annoying because of the waves of spawns that pop out from him
limpid siren
yea most setups i've seen try to abuse a 1 block
glass monolith
Boss: Slaps for 2k damage
Me: 
with Quercus S1 and 2 medics
tidal sedge
It's why I opted to just buff spam ntrk and be done with it
limpid siren
sounds like 2 medics more than you need
tidal sedge
Though some stalling setups I've seen were funny
I saw a Flamebringer s1, Tuye s2, and Vendela setup that amused me
limpid siren
vendela is a funny creature
glass monolith
Tuye can be fun against bursts which drop operators low as he just set it back lmao
It is she isn't it...
limpid siren
yea
glass monolith
THIS FUCKING GAME
Anyway. S2M3 Puzzle done, S2M3 Firewhistle done... What else i can flip upside down during dead weeks... Time to E2 S2M3 Poncirus
tidal sedge
Hmm. 1 block staller.
I should try and see how Swire Alter holds vs him
Might be useful for H stages
glass monolith
H stages scare me.... Not with boss... But those whip bros
limpid siren
the real mfs in this event
not me mindlessly feeding them to max stacks and watching my blocker explode in like 3 hits
glass monolith
I have 1 of random stuff. I don't have 2 of random stuff. If i need to face 2 of those at once i will explode because no Utage/Astesia/Franka/Mousse
glass monolith
Texas alter rerun will make me pull out mine
"Phase 2 boss lose stun immunity" is best boss mechanic
tidal sedge
In 13-21 she killed all whips with just incidental healing from Saria. But H stages will probably put them in less isolated lanes
glass monolith
IS-S-5 CM being +100 ATK to boss phase 2 while i cheese it with stun
tidal sedge
But it is neat how duelists match up well vs them on paper. 1 block, high def, and no aoe to feed them
limpid siren
HG done pretty well to make 1 block a boon lately
tidal sedge
My only complaint is that I underestimated their def and had to grimly watch a low hp Hellagur s2 do nothing to one
glass monolith
Having fun with AE being +20% stats on top of fun base bs?
limpid siren
AE is normal mode tbh
whenever it's available, i see no point to even play the normal stage
glass monolith
For me whip bros even more dangerous on not AE, as i will end up killing nerfed HP blood ambers before killing whip bro
limpid siren
old arch
Oky so it took me a bit longer than 4 hours to beat JT8-3. But also, I wasn't like attempting it every day lol. But I finally did it today. And I tested it and it's auto-safe too.
I kept trying to fight TDBS like, as they were moving through all the random corridors, but eventually I tried fighting them like, at the end (before the protection point thing) and that made it so much easier.
Hmm I'm a bit confused. Is there an RNG element to JT8-3?
One auto-run worked, but the one after that failed.
Sec lemme do one more auto-run.
Hmm.
Okay so, first and third auto-runs (I just end the run right before it naturally finishes). It went exactly as the first manual run.
Second auto-run, for some reason, the Energy Aggregates seemed to spawn at a different time or something?
civic bear
boss can be rng
easily influenced by frames
so boss can use skill / do auto attack instead
it changes skill order
civic bear
ye
old arch
Hmm.
civic bear
mainly happens if u're block stalling the guy
old arch
Ah.
old arch
Hmm.
I see, thank you. Honestly if I have to do this again for whatever reason, I'll just manual it haha.
It's not too bad once you've beaten the map.
Extremely straightforward. Only sus part is the fireball part but it's just pre-timing Ptilopsis S2 to get me through it and in time for the next fireball stage.
wintry cargo
Need help with 9-19, trying to progress as fast as I can for the UI but im stuck on this stage and not even ling can help me for some reason.
I tried for a hour straight but I either ran into these problems
- I don't generate enough DPS to kill stage 1 of the boss and it demolishs everything
- I do enough dmg to get into 2nd stage but they do the weird snipe ability on a tower and it kills ling (using skill 2 NTR to get her into stage 2 for now)
- I somehow get through all of this but she ends up with a sliver of HP and after the last pillar she kills the last dragon in her way and flys away (and then kills ling)
glass monolith
"cheese" way to do 9-19 is stall phase 1 with medics and some healthy operator while dealing with normal enemies. As well as prepare all pillars (reduce them to 1 hit to be dropped). Then in phase 2 avoid having any operator in range of tower flip (Boss has that shit global). while flipping 4 pillars on her (bottom left pillar can be flipped using pillar flip item you have) which will leave her on like 4k hp at which point next to anything will kill her with attacking
2 pillars which can't be flipped on boss (left most and bottom right one) can be used to kill phase 2 flying golem things
outer trellis
any op that can hold the caster lane in 13-15?
my thorns gets overwhelmed at the end
glass monolith
There is no "holding" there is gonna go fast to destroy that shitty altar before they stack up
Or you can cheese it by pulling caster over altar which is a thing for some reason
outer trellis
ig I will try to rush killing the boneguards
wide sail
pretty sure mud s3 kills caster in blue box
weak gazelle
pull them to mid lane
so they cant revive infinitely
noble pewter
Need help with 9-19, trying to progress as fast as I can for the UI but im stuck...
Then maybe destroy the tower near ling so she don't get sniped in the 1st place ?
merry narwhal
Need help with 9-19, trying to progress as fast as I can for the UI but im stuck...
if you're doing it just for the ui, can't you leak the boss and continue from there?
scarlet mortar
Need help with 9-19, trying to progress as fast as I can for the UI but im stuck...
what's your roster?
scarlet mortar
what's your roster?
ok i gleaned your past ss, jess2 could solo left side while lapp + liskarm + silence handle right side. silence's drone heals jessica, then bring FRDs to help knock pillars down while ntrk handles mandra
the pillars + ntrk are enough to deal with mandra i think
dark violet
tried SSS and wow mulberry is garbage? Or maybe it's her s2 that is?
I should just swap to s1, because s2 is just killing me
scrambling
wide sail
eyjaberry the goat on this one
dark violet
I only have lumen and mulberry here
wide sail
i see people even borrow her here over dmg carries
dark violet
is there even a situation where I could win
I'm going to try going s1 for lumen and merry
wide sail
does lumen just lose his skill all the time from curing stun
thirster skill goes crazy
wide sail
i didnt even know lumen had mt skills
dark violet
his s2 is double target
but his s1 is the most interesting
heals target and surrounding ones for 5 seconds
mini eyjalter
wide sail
huh
vital arrow
thirster skill goes crazy
You use the crystals for the stun
vital arrow
You youre gonna have a bad time
dark violet
aint no way I can brute force it
vital arrow
It stuns your ops everytime the shield doesnt pop
And it has like 90 res
And a shit ton of def
dark violet
the damage goes insane when I have 5 shits dealing aoe to my ops
lapis hornet
kerf what's the sauce for abandoned lighthouse sss?
it's gonna work
lapis hornet
i heard lapp no good?
dark violet
vital arrow
Lapp no good
But then again I'm a masochist on SSS
Still trying to do emergency lighthouse
lapis hornet
wdym try just do it
wide sail
how hard is lighthouse compared to laterano em
dark violet
lapis hornet
ill do emergency next time lol
vital arrow
Ranged only emegency lighthouse
dark violet
how hard is lighthouse compared to laterano em
idk but so far it's a billion times harder
vital arrow
lapis hornet
sounds good
dark violet
laterano was a joke
alpine pewter
13-15 adverse help
vital arrow
Which one was that again
lapis hornet
is ground or range better?
vital arrow
Ground is better
lapis hornet
ty
alpine pewter
Which one was that again
ones with the fuckers on the bottom lane and 4 bloodcalling alters
alpine pewter
can't
i rush the bombs but bottom lane gets easily overwhelmed
not to mention the guys in the middle hit like a truck
i'd do the good ol
vital arrow
Botlane is just purple casters
alpine pewter
saria + blaze for it but then my deployment limit gets fucked
vital arrow
Also idk whats your squad
dark violet
ok fuck it, I'll have to restart
alpine pewter
spalter bp gladiia eyjaberry taxes typhone kirito blaze ines myrtle reedic saria fiammetta
vocal leaf
i rush the bombs but bottom lane gets easily overwhelmed
just pull or push the casters 
alpine pewter
i have gladiia on bottom lane
vital arrow
Get a blocker defender
alpine pewter
she makes is worse because she pulls them towards her, they take up her block, then she gets overwhelmed
vital arrow
Like hoshi
vocal leaf
she makes is worse because she pulls them towards her, they take up her block, t...
she should be in ranged tile
vital arrow
Borrow a reedic or surtr
alpine pewter
got reedic
but she's mainly for clearing the defenders + giving energy to the bombs
vital arrow
Why is she not in the squad is beyond me, shes amazin in ch13
dark violet
anyway, don't take mulberry she's terrible
vital arrow
Get reedic
alpine pewter
i do
vital arrow
Andd let her handle the top half
alpine pewter
i do
vital arrow
Yeah her alone is enough for the bombs
vocal leaf
bottom lane gets overwhelmed
just pull/push
vital arrow
?
vocal leaf
use gladiia to pull them
vital arrow
It is
vital arrow
I mean you've always been able to shift through walls
dark violet
THE ALTAR'S AN EMPTY TILE???
feels like a bug innit
vital arrow
Why is pushing past the altar a surprise
alpine pewter
thought it was a wall and that enemies couldn't go through it
vital arrow
Shift ignores wall if you have enough force
dark violet
Shift ignores wall if you have enough force
I never heard of shift being able to phase through solid blocks
vital arrow
4-4
dark violet
I'm talking about high ground tiles
vital arrow
Oh the high ground ones
dark violet
the altar has the same sprites as undeployable walls so most people expect it to be impassable
vital arrow
Destroying the altars is the intended way of doing it though
scarlet mortar
roadblocks have no shifting collision, the altars are similar but it's not really obvious
alpine pewter
thank god i have my enforcer leveled
vocal leaf
Destroying the altars is the intended way of doing it though
yeah but i think this intended as well, but for farming, since destroying altars take a lot of effort and time
scarlet mortar
generally if it's not taught to you i don't consider it intended
we just learn how the spaghetti logic works
dark violet
For non adverse you can spawncamp
for adverse too you can spawncamp
dark violet
well yeah, but that part is a formality
scarlet mortar
the extra altar top right makes it harder to spawncamp bot, since you're forced to kill very early or shift the guys back
vital arrow
You just cant spawncamp on adverse since the tile doesnt make it possible
You have to kill on the red box
remote perch
nice caster cluster
dark violet
she split the waves
lapis hornet
fuuuuuu couldn't do secret medal
shoulda looked up boss gimmick
instead of deploying his thing like a dumbass lmao
oh well next rotation
ivory nimbus
lungmen downtown
Most of them would get eliminated by her S3, with the exception of D and C rows which are outside of her blast radius. You need a line of Ground ops to tank ballista shots to ensure your ranged backline doesn't get hit. Aside from that, you need another ops to get rid of D and C rows enemies that Fia couldn't reach.
That's my opinion for now.
It may change based on further context.
hasty heron
yeah
just wondering if she can handle all the drones on the top lane by herself with it
hate them purple flying bastards
ivory nimbus
They're annoying, but by having Defender take on their laser, I'd surmised the brief pause during each attacks should delay them long enough for Fia to finish them off.
ivory nimbus
Let the meatshield line get punted in by their attacks, and let Fia mop them up while they're busy kicking your Frontline is what I meant.
hasty heron
ill just
ivory nimbus
S3 can clip the drones with her 3x3 blast radius.
hasty heron
do the setup i have in mind and you tell me if its gonna work
ivory nimbus
Sure.
hasty heron
jessicat s1, fia s3, ptilopsis s2, gummy s1, mizuki s3, mudrock s2, exusiai s1, silence s2, penance s1
hasty heron
he's mainly there for the last wave
scarlet mortar
terrible skill, just use S1
hasty heron
hasty heron
i thought of using a pusher since there's a hole there but i could just kill them instead
nope, mine
vital arrow
Can she kill the defense crushers
hasty heron
level 60, mod-X2
hasty heron
so mizuki s2 then
vital arrow
Even worse
hasty heron
waxen swan
Mizuki have one skill
ivory nimbus
You might want another Defender to tank for Fia so her health is top up, or switch to Jessi S2, push her one tile to the right, and start abusing her shield mechanics to selectively tank, block ballista for Fia, and kill the Jetpacks that'll sneak behind her.
vital arrow
With masteries?
hasty heron
hmmm
scarlet mortar
might as well use jess S2 i think
vital arrow
Actually idk how you havent celared anni 3 with that roster
waxen swan
Why u have good op and haven't done anni 3
scarlet mortar
jess S1 is eh
ivory nimbus
good idea actually
restive dawn
hi im new to the game should i E2 cutter or meteor
scarlet mortar
vital arrow
Idk how you havent cleared annin3 with that lineup
hasty heron
ive cleared it like months ago
problem is i used a support so i dont have autodeploy
vital arrow
You have enough stat to bullshit through it
ivory nimbus
hi im new to the game should i E2 cutter or meteor
Cutter, easily.
waxen swan
I cleared 3 with less
vital arrow
Just try doing it
hasty heron
okay, so i do this?
vital arrow
Its much easier than you expect
ivory nimbus
I cleared Anni3 with only Thorns and Typhon. 
scarlet mortar
zook S1
waxen swan
No jessis was already in the correct path
restive dawn
PR d2 is killing me
vital arrow
Just dont overthink anni 3
scarlet mortar
S2 has less damage
vital arrow
You have enough stat to bruteforce
hasty heron
yeah probably
vital arrow
Definitely
hasty heron
what's the reccomended level for it again?
hasty heron
waxen swan
Anni 3 is literally a launch map
scarlet mortar
stage is a ling ines duo
waxen swan
It's the first generation map they make
scarlet mortar
you have like 4x that kind of firepower
hasty heron
dont have stainless though...
hasty heron
not m3
hasty heron
oh well
vital arrow
Just force close if you fail
ivory nimbus
Shield has taunt. Make Jessi facing right so she's ready to pop S2 on drone as default, then use Shield to redirect dmg or change directions as needed.
hasty heron
ines/puzzle + stainless or flagpipe?
dark violet
hasty heron
stainless for the sake of having a target for ines' S1
scarlet mortar
why would you use ines S1 in the first place
vital arrow
More than 1 vg in anni is overkill
hasty heron
because i really really really really REALLY dont wanna build a flagbearer unless if i get saileach
vital arrow
I mean you can just use
alpine pewter
huh why not
cyan gorge
Stainless + turret is an extra 25 dp, why do that when you can use literally any other vg instead
alpine pewter
saga s3m3 has same dp gen as elysium iirc (but only for one cycle)
vital arrow
That sounds very wrong
hasty heron
literally one of the
vital arrow
Honestly idk why youre fussing about raising ely/myrtle when you M9d mizuki
lapis hornet
actually what does this sss boss do does he have global sanity dmg when he takes dmg or smth?
hasty heron
i do waifu over meta
lapis hornet
or is it on timer idk
ivory nimbus
literally one of the
This is overkill. 
hasty heron
its how im able to enjoy the game anyway
cyan gorge
Ines is the only vg you need anyways 95% of the time
hasty heron
ines when there's no enemies in sight
ivory nimbus
You only really need one of them on DP duty, and that's enough.
dark violet
actually what does this sss boss do does he have global sanity dmg when he takes...
the boss gives a thing every x time, and as long as it's not healed, it deals damage and elemental damage to every op
it cumulates
hasty heron
oh, exusiai buffed fia
lapis hornet
yeah that part is ez
hasty heron
yeah no its wraps
alpine pewter
That sounds very wrong
nope same
lapis hornet
but he also explodes no
cyan gorge
ines when there's no enemies in sight
But there eventually will be enemies
dark violet
idk
dark violet
I never survived the shits
alpine pewter
only for 1st use
lapis hornet
at the end my units kept getting stunned had to spam the rock things
alpine pewter
- i think it's with saga's pioneer module
wide sail
wow mlynar too busted
vital arrow
Then its still very wrong since ely cycles way faster
dark violet
I guess this time I will
lapis hornet
maybe ill use 2 berries next time
dark violet
huh?
dark violet
her s2 makes her unable to heal the things
lapis hornet
why u use s2
dark violet
because it's my first time using her
lapis hornet
also brought couple defenders but never used them smh
ivory leaf
Is pallas worth building?
lapis hornet
eh
alpine pewter
Is pallas worth building?
not for general use
lapis hornet
p mid nowadays
wide sail
i used chestnut instead of mulberry just cuz of like 2 dp
hasty heron
doesnt pallas self sustain
alpine pewter
elysium has lower starting sp though
cyan gorge
doesnt pallas self sustain
Yea but needs high module investment to be worth
vital arrow
Ely only needs 9s to start
alpine pewter
elysium needs 14 extra sp whilst saga needs 12
waxen swan
Everyone brings bag with ely
hasty heron
Yea but needs high module investment to be worth
i mean yeah but when you do make that investment...
dark violet
the boss is attacking me directly
cyan gorge
i mean yeah but when you *do* make that investment...
She’s ok but there are still stronger and more reliable options like Mountain
ivory nimbus
how much hp does the purple drones have
Somewhere around 3-5k HP. Maxed S2M3 Typhon either one shot with two arrows, or put them near death with one and the other split off, each dealing 2.3k~ dmg.
vital arrow
Since its her dp skill
alpine pewter
s1's not used much since myrtle can just do quick dp
his s2 is the most used when you pick ely
waxen swan
S2 have more utility
alpine pewter
and who on earth would use saga s1
vital arrow
I still use S1 when I want dp though
alpine pewter
u do u
vital arrow
I mean idk why the comparison is ely s2 vs saga s3 in the first place
alpine pewter
most utility
vital arrow
If its dp gen then use the dp gen skill
If you use ely s2 youre not using him for dp
alpine pewter
in terms of practical use including dp
vital arrow
Sure sure
alpine pewter
if you wanted dp you would bring myrtle
vital arrow
Then I'd just bring myrtle and not use ely or saga in the first place
alpine pewter
unless it was an arduously low dp gen map that happened to be long
thats the point???????
dark violet
ok, I just have to regard all those rocks as free specter skills
alpine pewter
what on earth are you on
ely and saga have very similar dp gen for their respective most used skills that are the most practical
making saga a good choice as a pioneer for someone who doesn't like flagbearers
that was my point
wide sail
what ec unit is this
alpine pewter
ok, I just have to regard all those rocks as free specter skills
pallas pog
alpine pewter
ely and saga have very similar dp gen for their respective most used skills that...
i was wrong on the same dp gen part, which i conceded and said mb, and
i happened to not hit reply on the dude who was saying he didn't want to build a flagbearer
learn to have reading comprehension dude
i'm done with this
lapis hornet
I love watching ppl fight over vgs this never gets old 
vital arrow
Its a daily schedule
dark violet
I love watching ppl fight over vgs this never gets old <:VermeilMhm:650829730441...
I don't need to fight, flags to the trash, bagpipe too 
vital arrow
Idk not hitting reply and not giving clarification in the first place doesnt sound like my reading comprehension issue
dark violet
anyway, I have no idea what you're supposed to do against that boss
the shield is just unbreakable
dark violet
also I didn't get the perfect because it crashed when starting the fourth map
vital arrow
It reduces boss def and res
lapis hornet
idk just tank and spank? no idea I just slowly killed it
dark violet
wide sail
mlynar 3 vg 2 guard almost 1 cycled for me
dark violet
It reduces boss def and res
when you heal it?
vital arrow
When it gets fully healed
lapis hornet
just not sure if doing too much dmg to it is bad or what but i cba finding out
cyan gorge
Vg buff on Mlynar
dark violet
so you're supposed to keep one and wait for the shield?
vital arrow
Vg buff on mlynar is great wdym
lapis hornet
coulda sworn chungus was making it proc faster smh
vital arrow
so you're supposed to keep one and wait for the shield?
No you just keep spawning the ghouls
wide sail
its bad cuz i had the 2sp heal thingy but i sdidnt really care
hasty heron
why tf was i stressing so much
vital arrow
And heal them
cyan gorge
Vg buff on mlynar is great wdym
Idk seems counterintuitive to his trait
dark violet
No you just keep spawning the ghouls
I don't get it, I was already doing that
didn't stop the boss from having unbreakable shield
vital arrow
Idk seems counterintuitive to his trait
The atk buff applies to his base atk, which also gets multiplied by trait
wide sail
it still gives 20% atk and he murks everything anyway
cyan gorge
Idk I don’t use Mlynar enough in SSS
vital arrow
Since you dont have to hit skill everytime its up
bold lance
5 vg stack is like 60 DP. 5 guard is 120. 
wide sail
i had 1 guard in deck
waxen swan
Who tf run 5 guard in sss
cyan gorge
I do
waxen swan
Weirdo
scarlet mortar
spec recycle
vital arrow
He hits 10k per S1
bold lance
I did for that one shit mission to recruit guards
vital arrow
If it sounds stupid but it works, its not stupid
wide sail
the recruit mission is total cancer
waxen swan
Of course it work it's nerf sss
dark violet
Oh, I see why it didn't work
dark violet
I was dealing too much damage due to healing the absorbers, so the boss went into shield right as it got defense back, so it was unbreakable and the cycle continued. Making each stun worse
so the answer was to not use all the absorbers
and wait for the shield
cyan gorge
If 5 caster Fia works on pre nerf, who says I can’t get away with it now
waxen swan
You can gg it not like she stop attacking
wide sail
can gg break 95 res shield
vital arrow
-15 res
vital arrow
You can still just heal the absorbers
dark violet
I should just have used NTR
vital arrow
Since the crystal nullifies the stun anyways
dark violet
s3 that shield up his
wide sail
just waiting out the stun isnt that bad either i felt
foggy grove
the res goes down
dark violet
anyway now I don't have to do the 10 caster/supporter thing, no more shit implement
vital arrow
I literally just outhealed every single absorber as it pops up
foggy grove
def and res goes down for each fully healed absorber
wide sail
idk how much def he has in em but i figure its easier to just kill him in first loop
dark violet
oh right, you can do that and not wait
wide sail
oh em only gives 5% def
civic bear
Vaguely I remember doing the math and found that mlynar does worse average DPS just in general the lower his stack. The benefit of 5 vg mlynar is simply that he does enough damage with higher uptime. Not better. Which I guess matters more in sss
limpid siren
Yea it’s just a combo of the vg stacks being “enough” in tandem with better uptime
Faster cycle isn’t always better, but SSS provides a good enough argument in its context
civic bear
Optimal to add more guard buff
limpid siren
When i play SSS i kinda just throw vg/guard buffs at tequila
Not very fussed about the ratio
civic bear
I ain't spamming button tho gl with that (I don't even play the mode)
tepid leaf
help..
