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smoky halo
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he has 18% shelter

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max trust lv 80 hoe can survive aak buff

stable jacinth
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Mine lvl 90 Trust 24% WPanic

smoky halo
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get more trust

latent monolith
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9k HP or smth right

stable jacinth
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I was curious how much ASPD he needed on his S2 to Stun lock Patriot

latent monolith
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actually over 10k

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Isn't pat stun immune

stable jacinth
civic bear
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U need 50 aspd

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Which even then isn't perma

stable jacinth
civic bear
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1f off each time

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So it slowly drifts

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No

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It's just cuz pat is 4s+1f so odd frames.
Hoe is 3s so u can only go faster thus need to atleast hit twice . 2 times something can't be odd

stable jacinth
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That 1f is the issue right ?

civic bear
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Ye

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Not hard to reset tho

stable jacinth
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Cuz like Mudrock and Golem their attack Animation is pretty slow that's why He can perma stun them both

civic bear
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Slow or fast animation doesn't matter

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With enough aspd (or lower) if the timing match it works

turbid badge
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shelter

civic bear
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Could slow down pat with saileach

stable jacinth
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So if Somehow I can hit Patriot 1f with Stun I basically can Perma stun Him ?

turbid badge
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or just give him a little bit of flat defense

stable jacinth
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Also not many Bosses that can get stunned recently so idk if it still Matters

civic bear
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Uhh the 1f is drift aways. So it works for first few hit and then this 1f builds up enough to go past patriot foreswing

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U could reset it by either sleep. Or stun the boss back swing so that it starts attacking a lil late so it goes back

stable jacinth
stable jacinth
civic bear
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Ye

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It's the same

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Weedy s1 golem isn't perma cuz it's 1f diff too.

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Fortunately golem has huge foreswing

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So it takes a while for it to drifts fully

stable jacinth
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I remember even like Angelina Passive can mess the timing of it right ?

civic bear
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Ye

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But with pot it works

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Basicly just the difference of where it drifts

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Could drift plus or minus (as in either ur stun becomes late to stop enemy foreswing, or ur stun becomes too early before enemy starts foreswing)

glass monolith
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All this talk of random differences give me ptsd of Stainless S2 sometimes taking longer than 3.5s to give that 1 SP NotLikeIfrit

stable jacinth
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Man I really wish I can get Hoerderer to Pot 3 but I can't pull anymore... That +250 HP will help him a Lot

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But the funny thing is cuz his 0 Defense I'm not afraid of using him even tho he got Corrosion effect WPanic

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Or got perma defense down debuff by anything

void terrace
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Does anyone know how the weakness scaling on necrosis works

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Does it decay from 50% to 0% over 15 seconds?

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Or is there some lower limit

glass monolith
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It decay?

void terrace
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Yeah unfortunately

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The translation is shit

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I don't know whether the enfeeble decays or the translation is just bad

glass monolith
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Uh... 1 LMD question - Can we give brain damage to stainless turret and observe it ATK stat?

void terrace
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I think they are immune to the necrosis dmg

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Let me check

glass monolith
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Oh right

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OUR necrosis dmg based on Arts damage we do and turrets take 0

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So unless war crime musician talent/S3 or whatever bypass it we won't even see it

dark violet
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why did I bother myself using operators, when I could just use skalter and dorothy mines

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ceobe is really a cheat code here though, killing all the amber so I just don't have to think about clearing things

dark violet
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lol, this is the hard map?

void terrace
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The flux casters are really anoying

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Pushing them out of the towers range is important

dark violet
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ah right, I can't kill those

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I'll send skalter on the bomb

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it should be good

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I thought I should be more careful but it looks like specter kills them fast enough.

vivid summit
dark violet
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were you using perfumer?

vivid summit
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no healers gladiia

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full abyssal hunter team though

dark violet
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losing the passive regen would break it then yeah

opal kiln
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Hi guys

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How to clear 13-15

dark violet
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ceobe

karmic glade
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like this

dapper hedge
dark violet
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waaa, you can pull through the towers?

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so they're not high ground, kinda feels like a bug

dapper hedge
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If you destroy the altar it just normal undeployeable tile

peak cloak
dark violet
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You can see clearly on the image the altar has a barrier just like the impassable block to its left.

regal pagoda
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https://imgur.com/a/BxDZwYP
Which lower level units should I build?
I've built all the cool guys like SilverAsh and stuff, but I've noticed I just lose before I can even deploy them, I'm struggling on 7-9 because dogs are faster than light and I just don't have DP
What units should I build, with lower DP cost, that can help me get to the point I can actually use my more powerful units?

smoky halo
glass monolith
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Oh boy, 7-9 get dogged, my favorite RedOmegaLul
Try starting with Vigna Siege/Courier on left to hold first dogs and then idk, medics, other stuff, retreat vigna when she is dying

regal pagoda
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I tried putting Vigna and then Courier on the right, but then I don't have enough DP for the left side, and when I do one dog gets past to the right

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I tried with Beagle on the left, dog to the right gets past

glass monolith
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S1 on Courier?

smoky halo
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wait he has siege

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i didnt see it

regal pagoda
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Yeah I put Siege and Courier/Elysium/Myrtle on the right too

glass monolith
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E1 max siege dies to dogs btw, don't know about e2

regal pagoda
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She does, yeah

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When I can get enough to cover both sides and put a medic, either she dies or a dog gets past

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It all comes down to not having enough DP AmiyaSad

glass monolith
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If only there was cantabile or something to get ez start dp. Okay let me cook

smoky halo
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wait e1 siege dies to dogs

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tf

regal pagoda
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I was going to E1 Myrtle but saw she gets up to 10 DP just like Elysium

glass monolith
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Myrtle has faster S1

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....

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You brought S2 Elysium aren't youy

regal pagoda
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Yeah

glass monolith
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It get dp out slower i think

smoky halo
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take ely s`1

remote perch
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Why not borrow mountain or something

glass monolith
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on m3 14 second wait after deploy (without bagpipe) and then 15 seconds to get 20
S1SL7 wait 17 seconds and get 18 DP in 8

smoky halo
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can siege hold right side

regal pagoda
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For a bit, but one dog gets past her at some point

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So I put the other vanguard behind her

smoky halo
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ur using s2?

regal pagoda
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Yeah

smoky halo
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how much dp does siege cost

regal pagoda
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13

glass monolith
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Sadly alot RedOmegaLul

smoky halo
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a lot

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siege left
then ely right
then specter right
then saria left

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try this ig

regal pagoda
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Right starts first

smoky halo
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oh oops

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i got left and right confused

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siege right
then ely left
then specter left
then saria right

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then uh help specter with other units

regal pagoda
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I'll give it a try

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Took a few tries and tweaks but I did it AmiyaCry

regal pagoda
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Nearl pulled her weight on the left side 🙏

glass monolith
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And my attempts to do it with 3* operators is: F that stage

regal pagoda
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The dogs are a pain

crude oak
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is it me, or has every operator after Typhon felt like garbage?

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Virtuosa will be a nice addition though

scarlet mortar
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"every op after typhon" isn't saying much for global

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for CN, ray's better in many cases than typhon tbh

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and she's just the start

crude oak
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well yeah, GL

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but Jessica Wick and Hoederer aren't really that impressive, and I guess Viviana isn't either

scarlet mortar
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mid 6*s are inevitable, i'd almost say a necessity

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unless you want to blow your wallet out every two weeks

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it's just like that sometimes

crude oak
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yeah, I got lucky for them both

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it feel like there's maybe 1 or 2 good 6* ops in between limited banners

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though that last one with Muelsyse was disappointing

glass monolith
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What if i skip Ray and pull Manticore 2.0 VermeilMhm

crude oak
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even Manticore 2.0 feels disappointing

glass monolith
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good

crude oak
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but time will tell for Ascalon

glass monolith
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I don't want OP AF Mlynar outdated stuff

crude oak
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I mean, I'm still using release ops to do AFK content

scarlet mortar
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yh it gets tiring if every op is a mlynar

glass monolith
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I want operators which don't make me feel bad for using thme HellaKek

scarlet mortar
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jess2 is officially on the good list for me though

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goated 12-17 AE main dps

lapis hornet
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salty i didn't get

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but can't spare more than 100 pulls with this schedule smh

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is okay shell spook soonge

glass monolith
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Are there any operator who fragile itself?

scarlet mortar
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not literally fragile, but quartz?

glass monolith
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Not entirely sure if that counts as fragile but will check on her too

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Oh and I guess I can proc red number on chapter 10 slimes

halcyon adder
glass monolith
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I wasted 51 pull, got Paprika, and found out she has range of AoE medic... For some unholy reason

halcyon adder
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She's hot

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Garbage

opal kiln
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Who are good ops to push the bomb

scarlet mortar
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pretty sure it's not fragile

civic bear
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None grant keyword

glass monolith
wary wing
lapis hornet
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anyone that does dmg smh

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good range is gud

glass monolith
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Chain casters

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So they chain on blood shits if they block push

cyan gorge
glass monolith
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Fuck that Aak S2 HP buff jumpscare

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Also i am not sure if silence alter brain lags to upgrade because it was 3 Aak shots between her values updating HellaKek

noble pewter
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CeobeConfused so.. what is the conclusion of this data?

glass monolith
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Yes, 10% DR. 3 shots. Updates to 14.2% DR which was how much DR it suppose to be at 78.9% hp
3 shots. Updates to 17.6% DR cuz 61.7%
3 shots. Updates to 20.4% DR cuz 47.6%...

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So far i find out Silence alter talent has delay on updating HellaKek

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And if you want to know what i was looking for...
Same CeobeConfused

limpid siren
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Pretty common not to check every single frame for these kinds of things

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Very rare for it to matter like this

glass monolith
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It can lead to fun case when you burst heal with something like Purestream S1 and tank huge hit before DR updates to fact that you healed up, making you have insane effective HP for like 1-2 frame

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assuming it don't update DR on heal

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what was red number condition? 150% attack scale?

limpid siren
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1.5* expected damage

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So just displayed atk vs enemy mitigation

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Atk_scale and dmg_scale are both the usual suspects for red numbers yea

glass monolith
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I want to get red number on chapter 10 slime. Am i fucked?

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True damage don't count, i want to specifically land red number on enemy with damage reduction

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I just messing around

limpid siren
glass monolith
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will try with Chen and 50% DR balls in DV event

limpid siren
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Probably cooked on ch10 slugs yea

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There’s probably a combo tho

glass monolith
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i need comparison between enemy with fragile and without

limpid siren
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Something like Ray and friends would swing it ig

glass monolith
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For no good reason

limpid siren
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Valid

glass monolith
peak cloak
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what i just saw?

glass monolith
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I assume someone was wondering where is their 0 DP Ines with S2 or something HellaKek

karmic glade
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Why can ines spawn sentry some of the time after 0 frame retreat, but not other times, it seems so random

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Can you see the video, it does not play for me LappDumb

glass monolith
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it doesn't for me either

karmic glade
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but when you download it, it works, weird discord

peak cloak
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the last two u sent, they played

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maybe retreat ines too fast?

glass monolith
weak gazelle
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oh god this took forever
seem H maps would be even worseReedBean

polar crane
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he kill your payload machine in H stage aware or he already does that in normal stage

glass monolith
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Phase 2 does that when you damage him with payload

smoky halo
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he doesnt hurt anyway

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so worse that happens is u stall

glass monolith
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Worse that happened for me was looking ON RED 39 NUMBER FOR 20 MINUTES

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I am doing mastery S2M3 on Puzzle right now btw HellaKek

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Dude literally 1 skill those taunt dudes

vocal leaf
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maleknights SkadiHug

glass monolith
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Where Humus DIE

vocal leaf
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not built yet HellaHands

regal pagoda
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Is there an unit that targets stealth? For 7-13 the invis dudes are getting away ChenMad

scarlet fulcrum
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totter

smoky halo
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totter is the only one

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if u mean invi reveal tho theres more options

scarlet fulcrum
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Or just reveal them

regal pagoda
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There's some dude with a shield taking aggro

halcyon adder
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Ines destorys

smoky halo
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ines sweep ya

glass monolith
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There.... is no invisible units in 7-13

halcyon adder
regal pagoda
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This guy isn't inv? then why aren't my units attacking him? (when he's not with the shield guy)

scarlet fulcrum
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Nope

glass monolith
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You literally trolled by shieldguard being taunt

regal pagoda
scarlet fulcrum
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Yeah its taunt from shield dude

glass monolith
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Because Blue Poison skills are multi target

vocal leaf
glass monolith
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There is only 1 shieldguard so target is someone else

regal pagoda
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I'll try again with another unit LappDumb

halcyon adder
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Wtf maleknights without best male

glass monolith
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Ambriel will attack those guys over shield guards, but i afraid she might attack normal enemies first too

regal pagoda
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Aight I put SilverAsh and he killed it LappDumb

halcyon adder
regal pagoda
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These stages have been easier overall thanks to switching Elysium s2 to s1

regal pagoda
smoky halo
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u swap ely skills based on the stage

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i suggested s1 specifically for that stage lmaocry

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doesnt mean u will always use s1 btw

regal pagoda
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I'll ask again once I'm struggling LappDumb

glass monolith
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Answer will most likely be surtr HellaKek

cosmic thicket
smoky halo
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ya i think i use s2 like uh 10% of the time

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when i want to debuff something

glass monolith
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I did S2M3 Elysium for EyjaBerry event so i could Kroos alter boss to afterlife DIE

cyan gorge
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Ely s2 to speed up Fia s3 is funni in birb shenanigans

glass monolith
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Days without silence alter: 0 DocSmile

dark violet
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some maps really get awkward when you clear the ambers too fast

glass monolith
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13-15 has fucking 1 op on normal difficulty NotLikeIfrit

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And i sit here on 3 ops like i did something

dark violet
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It's probably mwynar

glass monolith
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13-15, solo. Chapter 13 CARL. How the fuck one solo it with mlynar? HellaKek

dark violet
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idk, it's mwynerd

glass monolith
lost gale
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Is there an easy way to destory 9-19 without a low end squad (I have quite a few six stars) I keep getting crushed

scarlet mortar
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doesn't having many 6*s make it easier

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who do you have

glass monolith
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Stall out first phase of boss with someone who has alot of HP/Res with medics. Damage all damageable pillars. Drop all pillars on boss phase 2. Do like 4k damage which boss will have after all pillars

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At least how i did long time ago when stalling bosses was done not because i wanted, but because i had no alternative SkadiDaijoubu

dark violet
dark violet
latent monolith
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Eh mandragora is not very difficult with the stall cheese

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On 9-19 at least

dark violet
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what kind of stall can you do on a flying boss

latent monolith
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H9-6 obvi very different story

latent monolith
dark violet
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what if you don't have the dps

latent monolith
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You just save the pillars for it, and stall the first phase

dark violet
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in that map I guess

latent monolith
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You need to do 2k damage over like her entire path

dark violet
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but in general when the pillars aren't here

latent monolith
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Has she ever appeared without some pillars

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The TFN map had them too

dark violet
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trials

latent monolith
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But like we were talking about 9-19

latent monolith
dark violet
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2

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last I recall they didn't kill her

latent monolith
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I mean yeah but on TFN final wave if you don't actually have boss dps then mandragora is not going to be the only issue

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And again this particular person asked about 9-19

dark violet
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the thing is, her dps barrier is much higher than the median, is what I'm saying.

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A good amount of bosses can be done even with a bit subpar dps

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she's one the layer above

glass monolith
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Oh for love of god let me have tea and i will video stall her

dark violet
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thanks

heady sphinx
lost gale
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yeah I dont know why I fail so horribly ROFL

scarlet mortar
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oh this'll be quick

glass monolith
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Well it makes some of job easier to be as thorns OP AF there

lost gale
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in my attempts he has carried the whole of the left side of the map until mobs end the pillar next to him; that pillar dying is what killed me last time

scarlet mortar
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that would be mandra

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she's the only one that can knock down pillars in that stage

glass monolith
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Do you have NG by a chance in medics?

lost gale
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yep

latent monolith
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You'll want thorns to the lower right of the rightmost pillar

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Actually no the leftmost pillar

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The one on the middle of that lane

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And have him point up

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He solos that lane

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And mud on like the bottom right tile can almost solo that lane too?

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Although she does need a bit of help

lost gale
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i've been using SA/Surtr to fight the boss

latent monolith
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You'll want to drop a pillar on the boss before throwing your dps at her

dark violet
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interesting, skalter s3 alone is enough to kill ambers

latent monolith
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She has like 75% damage reduction or smth and dropping the pillar temporarily disables it

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On phase 2 it disables the flying too

scarlet mortar
dark violet
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Huh, 13-17 was scarier than 18. The bombs felt weirdly unguarded this time

glass monolith
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If they had 20 campers each bomb there would be no memorable maps

dark violet
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So I was just surprised at how effortless the bombs were sent to the altars and nothing else really happened

scarlet mortar
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ceobe wasn't needed, i just timed eyja late and she got pillar'd LappKek

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no mods

glass monolith
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@lost gale So there is overscuffed video. Thorns solo left as usual. Prepare pillars in advance. Avoid units in Pillar range unless used to - Stall boss with healthy unit (Skadi should do, easy if you have gladiia module stage 2+ on right side or something as boss all arts) and medics. Kill boss when ready to advance. RETREAT EVERYTHING which is inside pillar range, boss pillar flip global. Drop pillars on boss with gravels etc. Don't forget to do some damage because even if you drop all 4 pillars boss will have like 4000 remain. Side pillars can assist in killing flying things

vocal leaf
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hoederer can easily stall mandra ExeNaruhodo

glass monolith
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We don't even know if he has one

scarlet mortar
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boo stall

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just unga

scarlet mortar
glass monolith
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Dude f off that video mostly to CementGremlin at

scarlet mortar
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(ignore the part where i stall her for my auto)

glass monolith
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Ignore part where my auto kills her in red box with Kroos alter

scarlet mortar
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saria's SL7, everyone else M3

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add ch'en S3 if bag isn't M3 ig

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nbd

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plus a myrtle to make up for the diff

dark violet
glass monolith
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You responded to "stall cheese" which is use 0 pillars on phase 1 using stall

dark violet
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I was talking in general, outside of the map where the pillars just kill her

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the boss design itself

glass monolith
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Fair but dude come to ask for no brain 9-19 so who cares about h9-6 and TfN SkadiDaijoubu

dark violet
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yeah, I wasn't answering the person asking for help

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just commenting on the boss

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now I have to continue being depressed following Lettou

stable tangle
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Any thoughts on best way to level through IS tracks? Borrow Ling and do 2-3 floors as quick as possible and flop over or go for clears? Idk how the xp works

remote perch
stable tangle
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Nodes you pick effect rewards at the end not just how your run goes?

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Like emergency gives you more xp?

keen mountain
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How do I beat this? The shield fucker doesn't die

tidal sedge
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Drop the pillar on it

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For the big wave of them, use mines to kill a flamethrower and watch them all die to pillars

narrow patrol
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Any ideas for stage 5-3? Got no one who can kill the redeployed special ops caster leaders fast enough

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And most search results give me e1 lvl 80 units. Tried an e1 texalter and she can shred most of the ho but can’t do the job in one deployment

tidal sedge
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Skadi s2 works at e1, but it might be hard to find one

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Ntrk s2 should work similarly but longer redeploy

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Ntrk = Nearl the Radiant Knight in case you aren't familiar with acronyms

narrow patrol
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Ugh kinda hard since all my results give me mostly e1 units

tidal sedge
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I can loan mine after I prune some folks on my friend list

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Lurker#7756 is my ign if you care to send a request

lapis hornet
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yato works

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altho the one I find is pot3 idk if it makes a dif

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doesnt look that close tho

tidal sedge
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I should've remembered Yato

narrow patrol
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Ok I found a solution using e1 yato2 using the swords dance skill

tidal sedge
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Nice

narrow patrol
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This was exactly what I needed since the burst shreds most of their ho and 1 or two attacks murk em before she does and I can fully retreat

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And redeploy asap to murk the other spec ops caster leaders while the rest of my party chokes the enemy team

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Which skill is the demon swords dance for her again? S2? I think her s3 is that one pinwheel attack where she hits everyone a long range in front of her at using that rolling DS attack from MHW

tidal sedge
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Yes. Blade Dance is her s2

narrow patrol
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Thank you

lapis hornet
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whys 13 21 so annoying to afk WarPout

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time to cheat with kal

soft crystal
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Blade Dance S2

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Heavenly Blade Dance is s3

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Or Midair Spinning Blade Dance idk

plush wadi
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13-8 Adverse bans every tile I would use to push payload, and Boneguards' second form seems to be indestructible as long as the altar is there. Is there any way to push the payload without using global ranged units such as Ambriel?

cyan gorge
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snipers

south bone
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AA sniper exists

plush wadi
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somehow i didn't note that those right tiles were normal ranged. Thanks!

quick pecan
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the payload also has taunt so your ops will prioritize it over enemies

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someone with dot can be good to push for longer so you can focus more ops to cover blue box

void terrace
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Goldenglow global range ftw

river jungle
latent monolith
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It ticks really fast, can push through enemies that are attacking it fairly easily

remote perch
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I don't think hoe can reach the bomb in that map, they're banned tiles in adverse

latent monolith
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In that map yea I was talking about in general

limpid siren
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@tidal sedge looks like delphine talent works in her favour

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all three charges hit for 3,330 when the first two would have sent skullshatterer below 80% hp

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she's up on support if you wanted to muck around with her

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only 100 trust, mod1, and p1 atm though

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still not sure what to think about her

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i was going to skip mod levels, but i might get them now

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i think she got the better module variant for her, but i'm not too confident

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the dot kinda makes her hard to evaluate on paper

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cause she can generate quite a bit of extra damage from it in theory

turbid badge
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thats dalao

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shes still honestly kind of annoying to use

limpid siren
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there's something about her that i'm not in love with though

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yea

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like

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i think her cadence doesn't really fit in as a mystic

turbid badge
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her skill doesn't really help her get stacks idk

limpid siren
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she doesn't really care about charge management

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which is a good thing because she struggles to manage charges anyway

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but like

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she could just be any other archetype

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she doesn't feel like a mystic

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but she does have very cool animations

turbid badge
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her animations cool yea

blissful wren
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Which fiammeta module is better?

turbid badge
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second is more damage cuz atk%

blissful wren
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Over the def ignore?

turbid badge
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Igneous ya raised vendela

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I'm trying her out now in IS4

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Savage s2 offensive charge so bad

tidal sedge
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I wonder why her talent does that despite the paper theorizing. Maybe there's some sort of lock upon designating a target or its slow to check enemy hp? Not that I'm not complaining it works in this favorable way

limpid siren
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It might be like a snapshot of the target’s health when it starts calculating for all charges

turbid badge
#

How much damage is NTR per hit?

latent monolith
turbid badge
#

3

latent monolith
glass monolith
dark violet
#

I don't know why it never occured to me earlier, but the altars have a range. And I just need to kill them outside of the range...

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Oh, and ceobe's talent means she double hits the bombs CeobePat

latent monolith
#

Stuff like mlynar double hits the bombs too

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Eben with the necrosis mod probably gets a lot of hits?

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but idk

dark violet
#

yalter s2 for TexasHyper

latent monolith
#

yato S2 is overkill

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you insta stack it and then most of the skill is wasted

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because her talent counts as a double hit too

scarlet mortar
#

ya2 is pretty bad for pushing bc the payload loses stacks pretty quick

glass monolith
#

Puzzle S2 ticks on bomb for extra 16 seconds making it drive itself

scarlet mortar
#

you want to spread your hits out, ya2 does the exact opposite of that

glass monolith
#

Also makes me drive myself crazy because it makes me realize just HOW FUCKING SLOW IT MOVES ON MAX SPEED

dark violet
#

what about drone casters?

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Click s2 should make the drone keep attacking out of range right?

latent monolith
#

I just realised I got proviso on hoe banner

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Base unbricked fr?

#

Only took a year

dark violet
#

if i knew how strong she was I'd have reworked my base a long time ago

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she sat there since the event

latent monolith
#

Ngl I see people complaining about running out of xp but I always have so much more of it than lmd

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I don't think there was ever a point except maybe during like week 1 where I had more lmd than xp

dark violet
#

I was saying the same thing

#

not anymore

#

I ran out of the years of accumulated xp

#

proviso is scary

glass monolith
#

EXP is issue when you need to level up alot of characters, after 2 years of AK i just RosChill doing random modules, masteries, and still trying to do my dream of clearing red cert shop clean

dark violet
#

you haven't yet? I did that half a year ago

#

also got the 250 catalysts I needed

glass monolith
#

Every time i have sanity AP-5 is closed HellaKek

dapper hedge
#

It's the weekend in 2hours, soon brothers

glass monolith
#

8700 red certs to get all recruits before they add another 2 characters for another 4500, and uh.... oh i brought out tokens already

dark violet
celest bluff
#

End of beta RIIC when

dark violet
#

UUh, I guess there was info I should read to beat the boss. Even true damage doesn't work ExuHyperStare

glass monolith
#

Laugh in 90% DR

dark violet
#

at that point it's 100%

dapper hedge
#

Hit him with bomb

glass monolith
#

1000 DEF and 50 RES before aplication of 90% DR

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and 100k hp HellaKek

dark violet
#

true damage usually ignores the first part

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I didn't even see his bar go down

glass monolith
#

Because on 4th year of AK HG realized that they need to do damage reduction instead physical/arts damage reduction

dark violet
#

kek

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and yet it doesn't prevent debuff

celest bluff
#

"fuck true damage"

dark violet
#

ooh, so he's like mandra, but blockable

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limited pillars so don't fail the windows

glass monolith
#

You can summon another cart before he kill spawn point

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If you delay pushing it for 40 seconds so it recharge summon skill

dark violet
#

so this boss' first phase is pretty much ignored

celest solstice
#

will my team get nuked by the boss later if I have no healing for anyone there

dark violet
#

no healing? rip

celest bluff
#

I dont know man

#

Look like you gonna nuke the boss instead

celest solstice
#

I dont know if I should trust my 3 laneholders

#

technically 4

dark violet
#

considering it's a flying boss, most will be useless

celest bluff
#

Honestly I be damn if you didnt nuke the boss with that line up

celest solstice
#

oh boy mountain couldnt handle top

dark violet
#

I fear typhon will die before the boss reaches

celest solstice
#

repositioning him rn

celest solstice
dark violet
#

to the boss

#

mwynar aggro should get the aoe red bursts

#

I guess you'll be relying on mwynar alone

#

maybe he can carry enough if he can live

celest solstice
#

Ill revamp my setup, Ill go get reedic

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top died

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reedic should be enough

dark violet
#

I mean, try, it's not like the top line matter

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it sends to the middle

celest solstice
#

no, if top died, mlynar and typhon will die

dark violet
#

why

celest solstice
#

top casters

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aggro

dark violet
#

exu isn't enough?

celest solstice
#

getting disturbed by the ones going in mid

dark violet
#

not killing fast enough?

celest solstice
#

no, the fact that every time she shoots the attack is nullified

#

or dodged

dark violet
#

I meant penance reflect

celest solstice
#

mlynar aggro tho

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mlynar will die

dark violet
#

I thought he was invincible

#

anyway yeah, reedic should crumple that map

scarlet mortar
celest solstice
#

then mizuki will die lmao

#

literally going to target mizuki

dark violet
#

it's aoe

celest solstice
#

sad

celest bluff
#

I checking my line up and....

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Top side can be ignore

celest solstice
#

should be good enough

celest solstice
#

I have no healer at mid

dark violet
celest solstice
#

no facing right

#

mountain kept dying

celest bluff
dark violet
#

then you didn't really solve anything, no?

#

The boss is still going to wipe the middle

#

no mwynar, no blocks

celest solstice
#

its going to be fineeee

dark violet
#

worse, you don't even have exu anymore

celest solstice
dark violet
#

so you can't even hope to damage the boss

celest solstice
#

but typhon AmiyaSad

celest bluff
#

Having lappland would make your life easier because enemy cant dodge anymore

dark violet
#

typhon is going to be the second target of the aoe

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I mean, try

#

let us know how it goes

celest bluff
#

Which gonna solve the caster problem

dark violet
#

btw, which is placed first, your eyja or kal

celest solstice
#

eyja? why

dark violet
#

cause one of them is going to be perma stunned

celest solstice
#

by who-

dark violet
#

not like kal heals much anyway

dark violet
celest solstice
celest bluff
dark violet
#

I guess she won't

celest bluff
celest solstice
#

saga was for dp proc

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I have mud

dark violet
#

sounds fine then, kal gonna take nappy nap

#

she deserves it

celest bluff
#

Put typhoon up there so she can kill the casters

dark violet
#

maybe mwynar is going to become god and it'll be cleared easily

#

I don't know his strength

glass monolith
#

Typhoon hate people with weight issues and i think casters are less weight outside maybe most basic mobs

glass monolith
#

who has same targeting HellaKek

dark violet
celest bluff
celest solstice
#

wave 300

dark violet
#

nice

glass monolith
#

Well then my side commentary is done (leaves)

celest solstice
#

I mean 300 enemies killed

dark violet
#

I need to know how it goes

#

maybe I misjudged the strength of the boss and it's a joke

celest solstice
#

almost leaked while I was alt tabbing lmao

unkempt lintel
#

hello strategy peeps.... question....

if the box were destroyed, will all enemies up there take that path???

unkempt lintel
#

ok thats good to know... tnx

dark violet
#

I think a handful don't

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but not 100% sure

celest bluff
#

So quick update

scarlet mortar
#

damazti doesn't, basically everything else does i think

celest bluff
#

The annihilation clear from 3 weeks ago desync

remote perch
#

why are u running it manually?

dark violet
#

how can they desync

celest solstice
#

wahahahah

dark violet
#

we have PRTS

celest bluff
remote perch
dark violet
celest solstice
#

yeah Im going to do something more old fashioned

remote perch
#

probably you progress your account that it desync

celest bluff
#

Well not a big problem, I just prts it anyway

celest solstice
#

can Lin tank top?

dark violet
celest solstice
dark violet
#

I thought the boss is just dead now, with a yalter drop

#

oh

unkempt lintel
#

nvm some still take the path at the very top....

im thinking on funneling enemies below the top path coz only have one blocker....but ig ditch the plan and keep at least 1 box there

dark violet
#

yeah, damazti is a boss where you need many blockers

#

sustained ones too

unkempt lintel
#

my plan is to leave specter at the top lane... baby sitted with honey berry

while the rest in the bottom lanes

celest bluff
celest solstice
#

so can Lin tank the casters on top?

#

level 3 mod

celest bluff
#

I think I drop texalt a total of 5 times

ripe grail
#

I need some help with 10-11 adverse pls

unkempt lintel
# dark violet AH? mmh

yeap...

my problem is when the big drone comes... i can kill it ofc, but the aftermath is destroying the crates

dark violet
#

I don't remember the specifics for lanes, but AH can handle most of it, with Hberry and perfumer

unkempt lintel
#

but then again... i use typhon s3, so when the big drone comes near the crates... she also attack the crates DocSmile

remote perch
#

just don't use it

glass monolith
#

I did a little trolling at H12-4 with AH + Silence Alter S2M3 (her cycle is same as funny global drone BS) #strategy message

dark violet
#

looking at it, I guess I went fuck it and just destroyed the crates from the start

glass monolith
#

i wishc chapter 12 had more cases of crates shaping pathing in interesting ways

remote perch
#

reedic will be in shambles

glass monolith
#

Because 90% of crates are "Fuck you it is next to blue box

dark violet
#

my playstyle must trigger ptsd for afk players

celest solstice
#

this should do right?

dark violet
#

is lin the last one?

#

I guess her getting stunned doesn't matter though

celest solstice
#

no, mon3tr will be the last one

lapis hornet
#

yeah man I'm so triggered by your non afk playstyle WarPout

celest solstice
#

I can reposition it

glass monolith
dark violet
#

ah, then make sure mon3tr isn't without an adjacent one

celest solstice
#

mon3tr will have 3

#

I mean 2

dark violet
#

cause you don't want him stunned BlitzSmile

celest solstice
#

the most would be mizuki, which is 3

dark violet
glass monolith
dark violet
celest solstice
#

Lin should be last no?

glass monolith
#

I would try Zalak only if i had Dor

dark violet
#

when I get her pot 6 I'll probably make her my support

#

then you can get her too

celest solstice
#

I should be able to burst boss

#

right?

dark violet
#

mon3tr has no adjacent PerliStareYou

celest solstice
#

THE LAST I PLACED IS LIN

dark violet
#

alright

glass monolith
#

Damage 3x3 will target Mudrock and loner stun 3x3 will target Eyja or Lin

glass monolith
celest solstice
#

wont it be mizuki tho? its either mizuki or mudrock

dark violet
#

I wasn't sure after rereading, but yeah sounds like it

glass monolith
#

Mizuki has less likely to be attacked, if boss care about it then only Mudrock

dark violet
#

mizuki has lower targeting

celest solstice
#

oh right

dark violet
#

well, your medics should sustain

celest solstice
#

should

dark violet
#

if it's just the aoe it's fine, the boss will be busy

glass monolith
#

It is not that many damage, and if you kill boss you don't care

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Caster wave will engage Lin DIE

celest solstice
#

so many sp +2

glass monolith
#

I don't recall if they have ATK to break shield

celest solstice
#

to break shield, they need to have 1200 damage

#

physical

dark violet
celest solstice
#

cant remember arts

dark violet
#

this was my comp, and boss was sadge

celest solstice
#

I leaked someone near mudrock

#

grrr

#

mudrock not strong enough AmiyaSad

#

to be fair, I didnt touch mlynar the entire game

dark violet
#

with dorothy you can lane hold too BlitzSmile

celest solstice
#

touch deprived

celest solstice
celest bluff
#

I going in blind

dark violet
#

it's a reasonable solution

#

in this map though, you need blockers, even with doroth

#

unless you get warfarin for sp battery

dark violet
celest bluff
#

So Skalter in ch13 is the laneholder now

celest bluff
dark violet
#

oh I see

remote perch
dark violet
#

I forgot about that map

dark violet
celest bluff
celest bluff
dark violet
#

does she too?

#

I don't use her

remote perch
#

it would be faster to just rerun it again with a better strat than waiting 70 seconds for a batch clearing with skalter

dark violet
#

I forgot she had aoe strikes with s2

latent monolith
#

The best killers are prob like exalt and skalter since they're both true aoe

#

But skalter has a very long cycle

dark violet
#

she doesn't need cycle

#

just kill, and kill faster

celest bluff
dark violet
#

if you use ceobe from the start the worms just never pile up

#

she kinda dunks on the mechanic

remote perch
#

how is your skalter even dying with kalsit on there

celest bluff
remote perch
#

lol

celest bluff
#

Also

#

Kal is useless

#

I just deploy her just for the heal

dark violet
#

there's perfumer anyway

#

with perfumer skalter s3 doesn't need healing

remote perch
#

monst3r is kinda bad against swarm in the first place

celest bluff
#

Well I fumble that too

celest bluff
dark violet
#

kal as healer SkadiDaijoubu

#

I'd prefer ansel

celest bluff
remote perch
#

if your not using monst3r why bother using kalsit? she's worse than any medic if monst3r isn't there

her literally only redeeming quality is her range

dark violet
#

and ansel has that too

celest bluff
#

participation trophy for kal

dark violet
#

truly a doctor, overworking kal

#

no wonder she's always grumpy

remote perch
craggy turret
celest solstice
#

foolproof! I think

remote perch
#

surely

dark violet
craggy turret
dark violet
#

mwynar is going to die though, maybe

#

he's on first line for the drone attacks

celest solstice
#

I can ptilo skill 2

dark violet
remote perch
#

boss doesn't really hit that hard and he will probably kill it first

dark violet
#

ptilo has range up?

celest solstice
#

yes

remote perch
#

s2

dark violet
#

never used, nor upgraded her alas

#

perfumer too good

craggy turret
dark violet
#

I couldn't resist

craggy turret
#

CC10 comes to mind

dark violet
#

I was making joke

craggy turret
#
  • I don't own ntr so idk FiaDed
dark violet
#

she's kinda radiant

craggy turret
#

Shiny

celest solstice
#

wait mlynar did die

dark violet
celest solstice
#

wtf?

#

TO WHAT

#

ITS NOT EVEN THE BOSS

dark violet
#

the drone attacks no?

craggy turret
celest solstice
#

no

#

the drone didnt even come out

#

WTF?

dark violet
#

uuh

celest solstice
#

WHO KILLED IT

dark violet
#

he went to get a morning coffee

craggy turret
#

Went to go get today's newspaper

dark violet
#

and slipped on a banana peel

craggy turret
#

The one thing his skin robbed us of is no newspaper

craggy turret
dark violet
#

I know I heard some people complain about dorothy skin but I find it great

celest solstice
#

lets go

dark violet
#

active sprite has some gusto

craggy turret
dark violet
#

really?

craggy turret
#

Yea

dark violet
#

nice then

#

it was long overdue

craggy turret
#

Fia/bagpipe fans were the real winners of this update

dark violet
#

bagpipe?

craggy turret
#

Her en voice

scarlet mortar
celest solstice
#

alright I won

scarlet mortar
#

still bought it though

celest solstice
dark violet
#

ah. But yeah fia knight I had to get too

#

I don't have her

craggy turret
#

Fia got a skin and a new mod

celest solstice
#

whats the mod?

craggy turret
#

Atk 110% when attacking blocked enemies

dark violet
celest solstice
#

that doesnt sound that good

#

considering her range

craggy turret
celest solstice
lapis hornet
craggy turret
lapis hornet
#

lin s1 lmao idk if it did anything

celest solstice
celest bluff
celest solstice
#

time to auto it since I just came back and I have no tickets GoldenglowSad

celest bluff
#

Just take it

celest solstice
lapis hornet
#

idk too lazy to tap s3

dark violet
lapis hornet
#

but yeah penance sucks top swapping mud and pen better

celest solstice
#

said by the one who is triggered by a non-afk playstyle

craggy turret
celest solstice
dark violet
#

but road to pot 6 first

celest solstice
#

tfw I have dorothy, e2ed, but I have only probably used her at most, 20 times

craggy turret
#

I'm on team ela, sorry

dark violet
#

that's your mistake

#

not using both at once

#

they work tremendously well together

craggy turret
#

Was gonna pull her on rerun, then ela got announced

#

I only have so much originum...

celest solstice
dark violet
#

I need spark dusk first sadpeepo

craggy turret
dark violet
#

crying

#

and I need spark ash too

#

I'll get ela no doubt

craggy turret
#

Dusk curse

celest solstice
#

Also I just hate Ela design, not a big fan of r6siege either, so Im also going to be skipping that banner

craggy turret
#

Watch her steal my Shu pulls JessNotLikeThis

celest solstice
#

what are the chances auto fucks up when I go grab dinner

celest bluff
#

Do you like

craggy turret
#

Just auto lungmen

celest bluff
#

Is this emulator?

craggy turret
#

It gives 350

celest solstice
#

yes it is emulator

celest solstice
#

20*5 is 100, it makes a difference

#

do we not have an angry emoji

craggy turret
#

Suit yourself ChenShrug

celest bluff
celest solstice
craggy turret
celest bluff
dark violet
celest solstice
#

AHAH I FOUND WHO KILLED MLYNAR

#

its the fucking top lane

celest bluff
#

No shit Sherlock

dark violet
#

he died for your sins

#

I danced on his coffin

#

and then he killed the boss solo pe

celest solstice
lapis hornet
#

(possibly lvl gated idk)

dark violet
#

gg

lapis hornet
#

penance cringe couldn't full afk

dark violet
#

whoa, I just noticed we're a pawn in this game too

wooden blaze
#

Guys, any advice on this stage? I really don't want to borrow 6 star to complete this hard mode.

glass monolith
# wooden blaze

You can summon extra cars from targeted for destruction spawn thingies btw

scarlet mortar
# wooden blaze

you did fine for the most part, just kill the slugs away from the boss

glass monolith
#

Also 100% of enemies spawn during boss phase 1 so you can just wait with destruction of altar till everything is dead ChenShrug

scarlet mortar
#

his aura revives them

vital arrow
glass monolith
#

You can 1 block boss then all slugs move pass blocker

wooden blaze
#

Hmm

scarlet mortar
#

like that's basically the only part you're dying to

#

also if you can't tank ducale phase 2 bring a debuffer ig

#

or a stronger tank

#

there's no actual rush to kill him

dark violet
dark violet
#

not like it made a difference, I would destroy the worms

#

but for H that will be good

vital arrow
glass monolith
#

Franka should do with enough healing, just not having Nearl high behind her or she block blood shits in range of boss aura (Phase 2 auras itself/whoever blocks boss)

latent monolith
#

If lin shield is down on S3 and she kills an enemy does she get it back

glass monolith
#

I think she does just no shield explosion (as she has none to explode)

vital arrow
#

yes she does

latent monolith
#

what is the "blade signifier" midboss in IS4

#

Haven't grinded it much so first time seeing it

#

nvm done with the stage

#

2 lives lost because skill issue and leaked

bitter halo
#

didnt see the 4th tower RedOmegaLul

wooden blaze
remote perch
#

have fun

peak cloak
bitter halo
#

This looks pretty easy

#

does silence work on the thing that revives?

polar crane
#

no

bitter halo
#

okay, i thought i had an aha moment 😭

glass monolith
#

Silence work when hypergryph feels like it, which is not now

bitter halo
polar crane
#

you can check enemies info Okay
you can silence the guy that does aoe stun after a few attack

#

and the girl elite

dapper hedge
#

Yeah that one can be silenced too

pseudo cargo
#

LappDumb i've spend like 1 OP to replenish sanity... but still I can't do 7-18.... Any "AFK" guide for 7-18 Challenge AFK mode ?

polar crane
pseudo cargo
#

even 6,8,10,12,13 boss easier than patriot ....

spice fable
#

Side question: which stage do you get to convert Amiya into a vanguard?

smoky halo
spice fable
#

Ty

pseudo cargo
bitter halo
#

Dont use op

#

wdf

wooden blaze
peak cloak
#

cool 5* run

pseudo cargo
smoky halo
#

SoraWow gz

pseudo cargo
#

Actually I'm a bit sceptical with that Thorn and Sutr setup .. but ..

glass monolith
glass monolith
#

nvm

#

good job

pseudo cargo
#

LappDumb yeah..

narrow patrol
#

Any idea here. The ground area is so poorly set up I can’t set any proper defenses and while I can raise someone like shirayuki I lack proper defenders to hold the line when the enemies start getting overwhelming

noble pewter
ivory leaf
#

Is ambriel worth toE1 (if possible E2 as well)

ivory leaf
# narrow patrol

Lava can help the defender or any splash unit (just be sure to have a healer to keep the caster alive:)

noble pewter
# narrow patrol

the drones dont move very fast n they move past the middle a lot, giving u ample time shoot them down

noble pewter
#

spawn camp them with a sniper top facing down, then the middle u just heal n hold but maybe some aoe atker would help

narrow patrol
#

Honestly my issue with holding has to do with my tanks getting overwhelmed since I got spot and beagle at best

#

Nothing else

ivory leaf
#

Use a aoe caster

#

That should help

narrow patrol
#

I used a reedic and had my snipers facing inward

#

Was able to hold

#

Barely

noble pewter
#

yea cause u dont have aoe to kill the enemy n they piling up on ur defender maybe PtiloThink

ivory leaf
#

Yupp

narrow patrol
#

Not really a lot of good AoE options

ivory leaf
narrow patrol
#

Like lava?

ivory leaf
#

Yup yup

narrow patrol
#

And I did get her alter but no resources to build anyone

ivory leaf
#

Owhhh

noble pewter
#

i just did it blind with the full 3 star e1 team plus a ling borrow n i cleared it 1st try ReedBean

ivory leaf
#

Borrow:D

narrow patrol
#

I used redic

#

She’s pretty bullshit given the I attack and heal someone in my area

noble pewter
#

the normal 3 star lava is honestly not bad, her skill make her atk really fast is significant dmg

ivory leaf
narrow patrol
#

No fancy s2

#

S1

#

Can’t borrow e2 as all my results give e1’s at best

ivory leaf
#

Hmmm

narrow patrol
#

I already did it

#

Barely

#

Had Ines and Lapland quickly plugging gaps

ivory leaf
#

Das good

narrow patrol
#

At the end

#

I need better defenders too

ivory leaf
#

If you want the gold rocks be sure to bring a aoe deff

ivory leaf
#

Melantha

#

Wait Can melantha really do 3k damage?

glass monolith
# ivory leaf Is ambriel worth toE1 (if possible E2 as well)

I build her e2 just because global firing sniper sound funny to me. Deadeye archetype has ups and downs. Sometime she spend entire day shooting 0 DEF Barricade. Sometime she 420 no score chapter 7 buff dude. In chapter 13 she often end up focusing bomb (200 def). Unless ranged dude (150 def) or funny stun dude (100 def) exist.

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I'm bored anyways and do need a replacement for firewatch (just in case)

ivory leaf
glass monolith
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u dont even think before writing those words?

herself, cant. her max self dmg is around 1,2k-1,5k dmg at 0 def enemy and she is just a 3* after all. no idea about who gave u, the newbie, the information about 3k dmg melantha, already a misinfo.

with a buff and debuff team, can.

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My main team is starting to hit its limit and honestly I don’t have a lotta options

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Could use scavenger over fang tho

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Then again she’s kinda squishy

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