Perhaps, but she is just not cute
#strategy
leaden kraken
crisp bolt
I used gnosis for ch12
leaden kraken
Gnosis is boy, not cute ๐
leaden kraken
The point is, its yet another part that is basically unplayable if you do not play soley on meta...
dark violet
meta? 
leaden kraken
The highest cost operator usabel in this part of the game is 20
dark violet
I mean, I'd be glad dorothy be meta, but that's not the case sadly
halcyon adder
This boss was so easy wtf I just bruteforced
dark violet
This boss was so easy wtf I just bruteforced
damn, now that's a meta squad
who isn't meta in here
halcyon adder
Eyja
leaden kraken
I just want mudrock, rosmontis and fiametta, all is unusable for the entierty of ch 12
halcyon adder
Boss doesn't have much gimmicks just kill
cosmic thicket
The point is, its yet another part that is basically unplayable if you do not pl...
lol what
crisp bolt
gnosis is definitely not meta
lapis hornet
Boss doesn't have much gimmicks just kill
ok boomer not everyone's an old player with bruteforce account 
cosmic thicket
like the only "meta" op that does disproportionately well in ch12 is like mountain but i did perfectly fine without him
leaden kraken
I'm steamrolling the entierty of ch12 with kyostinv guides, do not feel like playing if I cant pick whoever I want ๐
dark violet
like the only "meta" op that does disproportionately well in ch12 is like mounta...
you forgot ines, but yeah
lapis hornet
I played ch12 without ines p sure
cosmic thicket
Ines does well literally everywhere so
dark violet
ye, but she was introduced in chap 12 so she's worth a mention
halcyon adder
Ines is like only vg u need
lapis hornet
man
foggy grove
Vanilla best
leaden kraken
Ines is like only vg u need
Lies.... Flagpipe need
cosmic thicket
ines bagpipe yum
dark violet
I still only used flametail
ines is a good support pick for hard stages I can't clear alone
lapis hornet
can yall explain why everyone loves ines so much lol
halcyon adder
Bagpipe is dead
dark violet
she's broken
halcyon adder
Role compression
dark violet
slow, invis reveal, fast redeploy, damage, dp gen
lapis hornet
isn't she like canta with bit more utility
dark violet
all of the utility
halcyon adder
Some stages with and without ines feels very different
lapis hornet
like she does a bit of many things but you usually don't rly need the extra no
dark violet
shows you haven't used her
leaden kraken
Bagpipe is dead
Bagpipe + Myrtle still used by guides for initial DP gen.
halcyon adder
No but it helps
lapis hornet
I don't dislike her but when I play her I rarely feel like "wow this unit so gud!!" kinda
cosmic thicket
Bagpipe + Myrtle still used by guides for initial DP gen.
yes because afk/high end guides favour ops that people have
ines is much better but being a more recent op fewer people might have her
halcyon adder
She shines in hard content like is4 high d maps
lapis hornet
is it some is thing again
cosmic thicket
so if guidemakers use her you have 50 iq players yelling in the comments section "can i replace ines with myrtle??????????"
lapis hornet
nah
halcyon adder
I mean is is the only true content
lapis hornet
ines actually not that great if you just want some dp to deploy your afk
halcyon adder
Afk runs feels harder to me to replicate without guides
cosmic thicket
afk guides are also not a valid way to play the game but that's something else entirely
lapis hornet
afk's easy it's only hard when you tryna low step/low op
it's like 1p it looks harder than it is
halcyon adder
Ok but flags are not afk. Checkmate
lapis hornet
lol
idc about vgs either way agents or flags
it's the other dude who brought up myrtle lul
halcyon adder
What kinds squad kyo uses for his high end ones?
lapis hornet
no idea
cosmic thicket
afk skills
lapis hornet
afk shouldn't use vgs tho no?
dark violet
afk is about not playing the game
cosmic thicket
no they use flagpipe to set up
lapis hornet
afk's a self limiting genre that's as valid as anything else
wdf using flag for afk lame af
cosmic thicket
lowstep and low op are cool
but guides that prioritize stability instead of intentional decision making aren't
halcyon adder
Just use texas s1 if afk
lapis hornet
just don't use vgs smh
halcyon adder
Afk guides use units like hoshi shining skalter a lot
cosmic thicket
yeah honestly i might slim down my vg usage from now on
im literally only using vigil as a vanguard
it's working out pretty ok
crisp bolt
I don't sleep on hoshi
lapis hornet
but not like bottom bottom
leaden kraken
wdf using flag for afk lame af
because, afk guides try to place all units as soon as possible so you can ignore the game for the rest of the map. Hence flagpipe for faster dp gen to get more 6
deployed faster
And, other than inital dp, vanguards is pretty useless most of the time ๐
lapis hornet
most stages short enough as is honestly doesn't make a huge dif
like for anni maps sure
cosmic thicket
yeah vanguards are really easy to optimize out
halcyon adder
Chap 13 favours aoe a lot
leaden kraken
Heck, before the dp limit, you could often just wait for mudrock deployment initially. myrtle, then wait for 35, place mudrock, afk (if single exit)
lapis hornet
man do I speedrun ch13 instead of playing afk journey
halcyon adder
Is afk journey the child of afk arena?
lapis hornet
I didn't find dp limit to be very debilitating but I have a wider pool of units than most ppl ig so not rly a good judge
same company yeah idk friend of mine was yapping about it so I'm trying it out lol
halcyon adder
Btw can I add u cake? I need more friends
tidal sedge
leaden kraken
I still have not made it to the end even once ๐
lapis hornet
Btw can I add u cake? I need more friends
what in ak?
tidal sedge
that's difficulty 3 ๐
leaden kraken
I fail like 1 or two combat nodes after the first boss ๐
halcyon adder
what in ak?
Ya
leaden kraken
Kyostinv guide for 12-8, thorns, mountain and saria.... ๐
halcyon adder
Ping me if u can thnx
lapis hornet
sent you dm lul
halcyon adder
Thnx 
glass monolith
13-13 once again shows that best way to introduce player to something is brutally murder them with it
scarlet mortar
they should keep doing that
glass monolith
Wait medic who is little late can't be blocked? fuck 
Wonder how long it will take till i will have "Payload killed" moment
limpid siren
Btw can I add u cake? I need more friends
borrow my 5*s
glass monolith
This fucking "reduce attack speed" taunt is so cancer
turbid badge
3.5k wow
deft badger
whats the fastest way to do story, havent done it for a long time 
in to advance and just do them?
craggy turret
in to advance and just do them?
You have to finish normal then adverse
Adverse only unlocks after finishing normal
glass monolith
Not having built Cement and Aurora really hurts my no 6* attempts right now 
foggy sparrow
isn't this what juggernaut defenders are suppose to be
aswell as muesha and reapers
kal'sit too
pure pasture
So having some serious trouble on the annihilation mission lungmen downtown. Could someone maybe take a look at my ops and gives some team ideas. Or at least positions where to maybe place em
turbid badge
delta mod out
peak cloak
So having some serious trouble on the annihilation mission lungmen downtown. Cou...
pls show your ops then
pure pasture
Are u able to vc? @peak cloak I found a way to get arknights on my laptop. I can show em better that way
peak cloak
Are u able to vc? <@703245554074779668> I found a way to get arknights on my lap...
russian microphone, u wont hear anything
pure pasture
rip
peak cloak
so pls send some images
pure pasture
ok might take a bit then, standby
peak cloak
gotcha
pure pasture
One of these might be a double by mistake so heads up
ive been mostly trying with a low level squad but at this point i might need a little more firepower
pure pasture
yaaaaaa again mostly been using a low squad lately
peak cloak
that's what i'm gonna ask you when looking at your rosters
are u some kind of try hard person? just asking
pure pasture
This was my roster during my last attempt along with a support silverash. And trust me I'm no try hard I prefer casual gaming even in this game
lapis hornet
casual gaming and 3* don't rly go together man
pure pasture
yaa tbh i probably should stop using kyostinv so much
thats where these squads are coming from
peak cloak
u should, man, at some points
lapis hornet
kyo never said to build 3* only tho he says you can replace with higher rarity in every video
(I think)
pure pasture
dont remember
lapis hornet
3* anni 3 is uh very difficult ik you have some 4 stars in there but
actually idk if purely 3* has been done I remember 3* + dobberman but that's mald city stuff
pure pasture
then forget the 3 stars lets go big. 4 5 and 6* teams
lapis hornet
with a borrow it seems v doable the only concern I have is your medics
cause idk if ansel and hibi are enough
pure pasture
i also have ones like myrrh perfumer and others
lapis hornet
are they leveled?
pure pasture
currently working on that right now. tho I cant do any promoting atm since the node isnt open
copper sun
So is it thought Hoederer isnโta good pull?
pure pasture
@lapis hornet so myrrh currently is e1 at least
lapis hornet
you alr have silence no need to level myrrh but okay
peak cloak
can you:
e1 Horn
e2 Typhon
ivory leaf
Guys on 5-5 do I really need a catapult operator??
ivory leaf
I don't have artillery operators that are high level besides low level ones
glass monolith
What you need one for and can you gravel bait or normal sniper whatever is going on?
ivory leaf
What you need one for and can you gravel bait or normal sniper whatever is going...
Waht
Yes I can gravel bait?
peak cloak
bait the drone that bombing your ops
glass monolith
You still don't answer why you need Catapult 
There are no adjusted melee tiles because fun tiles, you can't pile up enemies to catapult them, and if you catapult bomb drones - why just not bait?
peak cloak
if your squad members are low level, most likely die within one bomb
ivory leaf
You still don't answer why you need Catapult <:CeobeConfused:1151875108844097606...
Kyo said it-
glass monolith
Okay he uses Catapult - What for? What prevents you from using operators you have leveled to do them? Do you have some high rarity operator who will just clap everything without need to drop 4 more operators to hold line?
pure pasture
@lapis hornet is that a support thorns?
peak cloak
can kroos tank those arrows?
lapis hornet
kroos might die but it doesn't matter
ivory leaf
Okay he uses Catapult - What for? What prevents you from using operators you hav...
Don't think so-
lapis hornet
just give your silence some levels
kroos legit there to kill one drone that sneaks bottom around 200-300ish iirc
thorns will clap the rest
peak cloak
and pls switch silence to s2 too
pure pasture
As for typhons e2. I would need some extremely rare drops
lapis hornet
you craft t4/t5 mats you don't rely on drops
glass monolith
Kyo said it-
Oh god i open that video with auto subs on and it just printed his entire speech on 00:00
lapis hornet
but you can do it with e1 p sure
my only concern is whether you'll leak a drone top lol
also remember to bring castle/friston to bait bombs if you have them
turbid badge
hi cake
lapis hornet
otherwise do the kyo thing and switch lapp with a defender
glass monolith
Kyo just use Catapult for damage, you might get away with using just any other sniper
lapis hornet
I meant for anni3 I have nfi what 5-5 is
glass monolith
Use practice plans if you not sure for win
glass monolith
I meant for anni3 I have nfi what 5-5 is
Funny stage which always desyncs for me causing auto to finish faster than my original clear which triggers me
lapis hornet
if you need a friend thorns ping me with your game id and I'll add you etc
oh this one
think I have a 2 op with archetto lol
catapult is just a generic aoe dmg dealer
ivory leaf
Kyo just use Catapult for damage, you might get away with using just any other s...
Alrighty
scarlet fulcrum
2020 Grabel showcase
glass monolith
2020 Grabel showcase
scarlet fulcrum
crisp bolt
rat gaming
obsidian swift
alright, stuck on 9-19. Anyone mind helping me strategize?
https://krooster.com/u/Grembo
tropic valve
playing chapter 13, why are the blood ambers so frail, only 3000 DEF 
glass monolith
Finally some content to clown around instead 6* abuse
ancient hearth
playing chapter 13, why are the blood ambers so frail, only 3000 DEF <:SchwarzBl...
me, watching the reedic explosions
glass monolith
why u hate 6*
Everyone can just Mlynar it. I can say "I did it, without Mlynar"
And i will do it again 
ancient hearth
is it really my fault, when the shield dudes on 13-21 are arranged in a mlynar shaped pattern?
or is the game's fault for tempting me?
glass monolith
Astgenne chain pattern
ancient hearth
also, ngl, 13-21 is gonna punish a lot of people for not reading
glass monolith
I need to M3 Puzzle
ancient hearth
unfortunately though, some people will just toss surtr at him and wonder y health bar not go down
ancient hearth
there is the "90% damage reduction" part of his character description that people might not be reading
lapis hornet
I dun read I just fk around and find out
crisp bolt
so you're supposed to burst on impact 
I legit just spammed all the carts at once and then bursted the boss when I ran out of carts 
ivory leaf
Are they usable? (Didn't got u-official simp sadge)
crisp bolt
penance is usable
ancient hearth
penance yes (with conditions)
ivory leaf
The other two is stock?
ancient hearth
flint is a 5 star of a defective archtype, vendela is pretty mid
ivory leaf
Alright I'll just use penance
ancient hearth
penance really needs to be on the field early and get fed mobs to build barrier, you really want a good vanguard lineup to use her
ancient hearth
or sp support like blemi or chen so she can spam her s3 faster
myrtle + canti is usually enough
ivory leaf
About the skill, what Skill should I use?
ancient hearth
if you don't have sp support, then you just have to get her out early
ancient hearth
without sp support she still should be enough for most maps with masteries
ivory leaf
Gotchu thanks for your time and help
ancient hearth
sp support or getting her out early is mainly for her to stack barrier either through kills or S3 skill
dark glade
Wait h-13 already out?
ancient hearth
she's unhealable so that's the only way for her to survive
H stages are next week
dark glade
or isit just youtube baiting me
ancient hearth
baiting you with CN server replays?
rocky anvil
Does the nuke gets affected by Taunt or does it still prioritize highest block count?
lapis hornet
huh why's ch13 all ch10 redux so far?
ancient hearth
Does the nuke gets affected by Taunt or does it still prioritize highest block c...
the artillery? yes
you can see it with mlynar
lapis hornet
I thought it had new mechanics
ancient hearth
um, you'll see the new mechanics very soon if you go through the stages
lapis hornet
does the ch10 cannon stay or
turbid badge
im gonna play 13 when i e2 hoed and querc
rocky anvil
oh damn the taunt only affects the nuke when Mlynar's skill is active
halcyon adder
borrow my 5*s
Will borrow ur Delphine 
maiden spire
Good combinations for Vendela?
cyan gorge
Has anyone else gotten Fiaโs second mod? I think itโs miles better than her first one
vital arrow
Yes its way better than the 1st one
signal lichen
speaking of mods does ebens 3rd mod make him usable? or should we wait for a 4th
cyan gorge
He was always usable
cyan gorge
Yes its way better than the 1st one
Seeing her 2nd mod made me realize how cope I was trying to justify +10 aspd
ancient hearth
eben is usable, just hyperspecialized in a role that the power dps ops are usually already good enough at
I honestly would be tempted by the mod if we weren't geting arturia
signal lichen
maybe i should have not used the word useable
ik he was always usable pre mod even
cuz his dps is high enough
signal lichen
idk maybe i just missing the point of all these mods stacked on him
ancient hearth
trying to fix an inherently somewhat defective caster archetype
like the passenger saga
tidal sedge
Is this ch13 stuff? I've been seeing a lot of these type of screenshots but idk what they are
vivid rain
Yeah adverse buff is just hp increase for enemy so prob not
smoky halo
which doesnt look like it
tidal sedge
Fib how did those extra Ines rolls we told you to do go
smoky halo
Fib how did those extra Ines rolls we told you to do go
i didnt roll
tidal sedge
tidal sedge
Inesless IS, rough
smoky halo
good enough
tidal sedge
I can't even get past diff 3 so lol
smoky halo
rip
vivid rain
Mfw i had to slog through d15 with my borrow and yalter doing all the works
Jk the real mvp was kroos
smoky halo
Mfw i had to slog through d15 with my borrow and yalter doing all the works
same ๐ฅฑ
reedic yato carry frfr
old arch
Hi guys. So... 
I'm attempting the fun that is JT8-3.
I'm doing this unspoiled btw.
Hmm. JT8-2 wasn't too bad because I just brute forced it with Amiya S3 and big ranged dps (Platinum).
Hmm. Is it just me (overthinking) or like.. is JT8-3 way harder.
cyan gorge
Itโs only hard if you have under built medics
peak cloak
hey adam :)
old arch
Hello Niko!!
TDBS' defense is lower so it suggests to me that I should run physical.
But their routing/movement is so weird and they have a P2.. which I haven't gotten to yet lol. xd
Okay tl;dr. Is the stage actually deceptively easy and I just have to Doktah harder, or is it legitimately hard.
peak cloak
hard stuck jt 8-2?
old arch
JT8-3*
peak cloak
e2 amiya yet?
ah, jt 8-3
yea, it is a big challenge, hmm lets see, a well built Tifon can defeat Talulah black snake with ease
u want to try out?
old arch
Oh god it's actually a challenge.
Hmm. I'd like to run without any supports first!
I'll ask you if it turns out I can't if you're cool with that haha.
old arch
Hmm..
How would that work?
The true damage.
Will shred through me.
So it seems incredibly hard to stall.
cyan gorge
If you donโt own Nightingale, bringing multiple burst medics is recommended
old arch
If you donโt own Nightingale, bringing multiple burst medics is recommended
So like, would some combination of Ptilopsis/Myrrh/Gavial/Silence work? ๐ญ
old arch
Um?
cyan gorge
Thatโs good enough
old arch
Wait who's Sus LOL.
peak cloak
๐ท๏ธ
old arch
So hmm. I'm thinking that that since they're high enough level, three will suffice?
I also guess that for burst healing, Gavial is better than Myrrh.
cyan gorge
Oh yeah thisโll be easy
old arch
So I'll do Ptilopsis/Gavial/Silence.
old arch
Oh yeah thisโll be easy
Easy? ๐
Wait srs.
Also no spoilers, but this reassures me. So thank you
cyan gorge
I will say since you donโt have a therapist medic raised, itโs even more imperative to bring fast redeploy baits
Youโll see why
weak raven
lol how was i allowed to post this
cyan gorge
As long as you can deploy them every 20 seconds, they will work
limpid siren
Will borrow ur Delphine <:ExuHeart:673512491304747018>
๐
limpid siren
Good combinations for Vendela?
Honestly any strong defender will do, bonus points for having their own reflect already
You could also pick one of the liberators
I think sheโs more limited by how often ranged enemies canโt be killed by more traditional means than anything else
shell arch
lean obsidian
What would happen if these "imposter" civilians got into the blue box without being unidentified?
scarlet mortar
-1hp
clear pier
who is goated for ch 13?
jovial nest
I love that ch13's main gimmick is a payload objective
and good to know damage is what counts in the bomb's speed of movement instead of number of attacks
a good damage maxes the meter asap (used Ya2's S3 for experimenting)
scarlet mortar
it's hitcount based no
yh hitcount based
ya2 does two hits every 0.3 tiles or sth as she runs through it
scarlet mortar
instant max stacks lmao
full finch
it's a circle so offcentered enemies will get hit fewer times
scarlet mortar
if you make her travel in the same direction as the payload you're guaranteed 5x2 hits though
scarlet mortar
yh you want to constantly push rather than just max it once
...while also keeping enemies away
limpid siren
DoTs on top again
delphine probably the most appropriate chapter welfare since heidi
dagda and morgan interacting with their chapter be like 
tidal sedge
Dagda could duel dogs on-skill but that was about it
glass monolith
dogs solo gladdia skadi so pog
tidal sedge
The green number healing was useful to nullify dog DoT
limpid siren
ch11 was just a straight up brawl
and ch10/13 have very defined mechanics to interact with
tidal sedge
She was just hyper specialized to kill trash spam and dogs.
limpid siren
that is fair
tidal sedge
I guess self sustain is arguably okay for busting twigs?
limpid siren
so now we just dunk on morgan
tidal sedge
Yeah Morgan was strange. She couldn't duel ch 12 elites head on
Closest thing I can think of for a use is being warm 1 block body for Damazti stall if your deploy limit is stretched thin
turbid badge
Dr and shelter stack multiplic?
glass monolith
Yes. Gladiia buff, S3 Stainless with itself included if you summon 2 S3, Shelter each stack with multiplication
tidal sedge
Hmm.
If Stainless 2nd mod allows for 3 devices on map. That'd be almost 50% phys damage reduction
From Stainless alone I mean. Would cost a lot of dp though
glass monolith
And alot of space needed, S3 is melee tile only after all
2 S3 and Quercus (S1 ftw) is already 46%
tidal sedge
Better res shred ops when
void terrace
Ifrit be like
44 flat res reduction plus a res shred
If you can get the enemy on that one tile 
tidal sedge
With Arts/Phys Fragile being a thing, I wonder if we could see hexers that specialize in them
turbid badge
the less res , easier eben is to proq circle
limpid siren
they're quite shy about releasing more dedicated debuff/amp
tidal sedge
Unfortunately thats the case
void terrace
I mean we are still in a world that exu can destroy anything with enough support
limpid siren
5* still completely lack proper amp support
which is funny given how the rarity is the poster boy for "a tool for every job"
tidal sedge
Though for res shred we'll probably get more burn element soon
void terrace
I mean shamare was broken enough for phys. But yeah arts shamare when
limpid siren
void terrace
Paraminxs freeze module
limpid siren
shamare's strength isn't her -def anyway
void terrace
Gives me hope for freeze silverash one day
tidal sedge
If Amiya is getting class change in ch 14, I'm hoping she gets hexer or is burn ritualist
limpid siren
the -def is just incidentally cracked on top of what she already offers
void terrace
shamare's strength isn't her -def anyway
Yeah her atk down is the ultimate kicker. Just neuters any threat
glass monolith
5* still completely lack proper amp support
We need to go lower - Haze 
limpid siren
isn't haze shred
tidal sedge
Yes. 30% at most with module
void terrace
Whelp I guess it's time to waste all my remaining blocks on gay goat bois module
glass monolith
Shreding RES is amp of kind as long as enemy has any left
void terrace
See y'all in a bit guys 
glass monolith
I still rememeber when Shelter was named Sanctuary so like whatever, it was never clear
glass monolith
tidal sedge
Shelter was fan tl name iirc. But it being the first name it stuck
limpid siren
yea it's like old subclass names sticking around
ivory nimbus
limpid siren
i like broomstick better
tidal sedge
Have we gotten a spreadshooter since Chalter?
limpid siren
no
void terrace
Burninator casters
tidal sedge
I remember when Pinecone was hyped.
void terrace
Have we gotten a spreadshooter since Chalter?
Shotguns got passed to executor lmao
tidal sedge
I guess reapers cut into their usage
void terrace
Who isn't an executor. He is infact a reaper โ ๏ธ
limpid siren
reapers kinda do just do it better
turbid badge
the true aoe job?
void terrace
Pinecone is really good for 4 star DMG tho
limpid siren
yea
limpid siren
honestly
executor damage is solid
dude just has bum cycles
or at least that was true before la pluma
now pluma stomps him in both areas
aosta has his funny bleed/bind gimmick at least
glass monolith
dude just has bum cycles
i heard he has funny when mastery increase skill duration but he don't do another attack because attack speed?
limpid siren
but yea, both really suffer for stinker cycles
glass monolith
Could be confusing with someone else
limpid siren
i heard he has funny when mastery increase skill duration but he don't do anothe...
yea he can't use the extra duration properly iirc
but
this is assuming he's always attacking
which is not always true
glass monolith
fair, still sounds funny
limpid siren
i usually run s1 anyway though, so the quirk on s2 is kinda whatever to me
tidal sedge
I think a new spreadshooter could be neat but it's tough to think of how they could compete with reapers without needing 6* power budget
limpid siren
it's kinda map layout dependant at that point
if you remember west armory
that was a rare map where exec had a better tile than pluma
ivory nimbus
Pinecone is really good for 4 star DMG tho
As a Dokuta with max Pinecone, I can confirm, she shred most enemies with her nailgun. 
What? You're taking your Pinecone to kill boss or something? 
heady hedge
yes pinecone to kill d15 tlk
limpid siren
from memory this map had some iterations with shieldguards pushed forward to the 9 column
tidal sedge
Oh. That West Armory
tidal sedge
I confused it for jammer daily
halcyon adder
Cringe ass map
limpid siren
wasn't its nickname west armory
ivory nimbus
yes pinecone to kill d15 tlk
limpid siren
because it replaced east armory
heady hedge
oh
glass monolith
from memory this map had some iterations with shieldguards pushed forward to the...
Hey it is olny map where i used S2 Nearl and it was for reason
tidal sedge
My memory must have jumbled up the names
limpid siren
it's all a lifetime ago at this point
but i think if executor module has leizi tier sp gen tied to it
or even half that
then he's infinitely easier to slot
tidal sedge
I don't see them being that generous unfortunately. But I'd like to hope.
limpid siren
he'll probably just get some lame damage boost yea
ivory nimbus
yes pinecone to kill d15 tlk
Take your blue woman and get the hell out of here.
ivory nimbus
Wet blue woman.
heady hedge
who using chalter on tlk
ivory nimbus
Who care, figure it out.
heady hedge
no you figure it out
ivory nimbus
No you.
heady hedge
nuh uh
ivory nimbus
Yeah no.
limpid siren
void terrace
Wait necrosis reduces enemy atk by 50%???
That insane. Even if ebon doesn't kill the boss he can still massively reduce incoming DMG and cycle with shamare
glass monolith
won't stack with Shamare, i am sure they speedrun removing that iteraction on CN
void terrace
But they can cycle
glass monolith
void terrace
And it becomes permenant 50% atk down
glass monolith
Ebenless anyway 
glass monolith
But being Vendelaless hurts more
How long will i need to wait for another 5* waifu material
scarlet mortar
won't stack with Shamare, i am sure they speedrun removing that iteraction on CN
it stacks
multiplicatively though, so -75%
void terrace
But being Vendelaless hurts more
Same
glass monolith
Wait no, 6-16 - Partial Necrosis
Her Defense stat is joke. Gravel can stall her for some time as she shouldn't oneshot her
Where the f are you 6-16 is "Black Rabbit White Rabbit"
regal pagoda
~~Her Defense stat is joke. Gravel can stall her for some time as she shouldn't ...
Yeah that one
glass monolith
oh it is name of chapter 6
regal pagoda
I had two "main theme", Stormwatch and Partial Necrosis
scarlet mortar
if you're speedrunning to chapter 13, you can skip act 1 btw
if not then carry on
glass monolith
Her defense stat is bad. Friedn support of Exu, Kroos alter, Pozy, etc etc. Can set up some damage dealers to camp her on top left ladder like Tequila, Mlynar, Specter S2...
regal pagoda
I kill her but then she spawns again and throws that ice-thing and kills everyone on the way
glass monolith
Ice thing is on timer she always do them
scarlet mortar
bringing mlynar to FN is like bringing a railgun to a knife fight
glass monolith
hey since when #strategy is chat which don't bring railgun to boss stages?
And nobody cancel tile ban RNG murdering him
scarlet mortar
if you're bringing mlynar anw might as well cancel both phases with him
he should one-cycle
regal pagoda
These are my usual bunch
scarlet mortar
regal pagoda
I don't have Mlynar, but maybe some of my three friends have
scarlet mortar
i uh
glass monolith
HOW SHE IS ALIVE
scarlet mortar
yh
glass monolith
Just Phantom S2 her ass
heady hedge
bro uh
6-16 is fn right
just drop surtr?? or smth idfk
regal pagoda
I kill her but then she spawns again and throws that ice-thing and kills everyon...
But this
scarlet mortar
i was expecting an E1 squad or sth with a single E1L60 6*
heady hedge
drop operators again bro
scarlet mortar
that squad is just bullying
regal pagoda
I haven't played in years and it shows 
glass monolith
In FN case she just gain range increase and AoE move, compared to other bosses growing +1000 def out of their spine she is as hard to kill as phase 1
scarlet mortar
schwarz cancels her, surtr cancels her, SA cancels her, suzu keeps her in place
like
FN ownage montage
regal pagoda
Aight I'll try to see where she spawns and drop everyone on her
heady hedge
also
hoshi s2 pls
regal pagoda
S2?
scarlet mortar
SA phase 1 and schwarz phase 2 ig
heady hedge
ur mom
limpid siren
shell arch
Without me
glass monolith
ATK based DoT is based on ATK? 
glass monolith
oh... what was module again?
limpid siren
limpid siren
glass monolith
shell arch
Ignyus how's vendela?
glass monolith
HE HAS VENDELA 
shell arch
limpid siren
probably funny to pair with units that already have their own reflect
she let 5* only do 6-5 cm duo though
stuff like that is pretty much her entire usage
void terrace
Damn hoederer really is pretty ass
Like if you build your team around him he basically is unkillable but damn do you have to build your team around him
He needs at least 2 medics and stainless at the minimum
Stainless solves his defence issues somewhat
glass monolith
Laughs in Quercus Silence Alter
void terrace
Yes I have them but shelter doesn't stack
And hoederer has shelter
Only highest shelter buff applies
void terrace
18%
Silence still works
But querc suffers a little
Stacks with stainless turret tho
Plus he can hit the turret for guaranteed healing
He's somewhat of a substitute defender with a high hp wall and scales off the number of medics to hospital him. Skalter is a no brain pairing too. His 70s skill duration is the real kicker allowing him to really just face off against threats and hold the line while still contributing to DMG unlike nian
But then again it's another jack of all trades situation
karmic glade
holy, this emergency map is so hard, there are some high quality mob swarm at the end
void terrace
Fun unit tho but needs to be babied like hell. I started with him in IS and am suffering like mad from dogs
karmic glade
need to bring mlynar next time
glass monolith
holy, this emergency map is so hard, there are some high quality mob swarm at th...
Damage reduction when not blocked is mistake and should not exist
expecially with that enemy line up
karmic glade
the boss is not hard, melted with 5 caster chalter
but other enemies are so tough, when chalter is off skill I just died
this would be so easy with degen
glass monolith
13-18 don't looks so bad
Casters leave into top left box
YOU WHAT
lapis hornet
okay finally
looks like no more ch10 cannons that thing the most annoying mechanics lul
it's just the altar that res the worms?
leaden topaz
Any idea how to clear 13-21 standard environment with these 6โ ? Most of tutorial vids use 6โ ops that i don't have and the stage is adverse, have different map layout
5โ and 4โ i up
glass monolith
Ahahaha i love this shit
crisp bolt
glass monolith
You know why 13-19 has those Punishers? So your Ambriel/Lunacub couldn't push payload
crisp bolt
honestly I hate 13-15 the most
13-21 would've been a lot easier for me if I didn't try to speedrun breaking the alter
smoky halo
Any idea how to clear 13-21 standard environment with these 6โ
? Most of tutorial...
are you willing to borrow?
cause if so u can just copy this ling solo
halcyon adder
Any idea how to clear 13-21 standard environment with these 6โ
? Most of tutorial...
What problem u are facing? U have everything needed
leaden topaz
are you willing to borrow?
If can, I want to unlock the auto deploy
halcyon adder
Kalsit s3 will eat the boss,u have enough sustain and dps
leaden topaz
What problem u are facing? U have everything needed
Operator placement, I try to copy oyuki strat, but oyuki play in adverse and the terrain is different, I play in standard
halcyon adder
Then play in adverse?
Basically block with ur defenders,make ifrit lane,put some healers,use gg to hit the bomb constantly
Texas surtr for emergency
smoky halo
If can, I want to unlock the auto deploy
rip cant help u cause i own like almsot none of ur ops sorry
halcyon adder
Gimme some time I will clear it with ur ops
lapis hornet
๐
what a dalao
try dis maybe
just use shining instead
or add a medic if not enough idk
wait nvm
no lee I saw furry but that was aak
jovial nest
Let's see who wins this war of attrition. This 6 ops attempt purely for trust farming.
glass monolith
I love when you spawn so many blood whatever then altar just give up trying to spawn all at once
jovial nest
yeah i lost
the range reaches the entire range
so i can't isolate those guys
I'll have to bring someone who can reach the payload
glass monolith
Ambriel
hushed rivet
Old player who just returned to this game here
Can I ask advice on how to clear 12-17 CM?
The floaty thing has been killing me too much
I ended up busting out myrtle after not using her for awhile but the DP gen is still awful
scarlet mortar
who d'you have
ivory leaf
Is spuria usable?
hushed rivet
If it's help I'm missing some meta shit like horn or Typhon
scarlet mortar
you'll probs want a defender imo, just to tank all the seeds without hassle
two if you're needy
fiery marsh
You mean the drones? Aoe healling is better against then
scarlet mortar
thorns is ass
hushed rivet
Nearl then?
scarlet mortar
You mean the drones? Aoe healling is better against then
ST
fiery marsh
My case perfurmer + pto worked fine
hushed rivet
The seed hits so hard in adverse
scarlet mortar
try to bring a bait op like gravel
hushed rivet
Oh gravel is a good call
She should tank few of those seed
I have no problems with the stage aside from seed really so I'm gonna try this again
scarlet mortar
ah fug i deleted my 12-17 endscreen
lapis hornet
wdf 13-8 took 10 tries shit game
scarlet mortar
it was a 4op with skalter jess2 bag mlynar iirc
hushed rivet
Bagpipe?
scarlet mortar
yh, just used her to break a box for free
glass monolith
wdf 13-8 took 10 tries shit game
All i can say - 13-15. Good luck
scarlet mortar
laneholders are kinda eh in 12-17, there's barely any ground enemies and the caster is just a biiit too annoying to afk
with your squad i'd keep myrtle bag blue poison exu cexas lumen
and ines ig
find a defender or two + gravel
the entire stage boils down to btfo'ing the drones
scarlet mortar
jess2 S2 is a menace on this stage
deals good damage against practically anything, good cycles, plus she gets dodge so she ain't dying ever
also the shield prints free SP from the seeds
jovial nest
LMAO, Almond's paradox is just doing the hilarity that was done in Il Siracusano. Simulating crossing the streets and cars
and the guy is blocking the road
the paradox wasn't challenging
it was more of HG just wanting to have fun with making stories out of maps. Like what they did with Eureka's maps
austere sandal
is there any hope in hell that I can beat 9-19, I will level up literally anything at this point to get by the level even under 3 star clear
Im too new and too dumb to clear even following guides
jovial nest
why do you wanna rush so badly anyways?
torn ice
tactical support event
spark sinew
man that's a high level amiya
austere sandal
that and the limited background that me in a year will hate me now for not getting
jovial nest
i can't imagine that team tackling further chapters but it will be quite the struggle. Who do you usually borrow?
spark sinew
i was gonna say just borrow ling, but she doesn't solo the stage apparently
jovial nest
Ling ain't built for Mandragora killing
you're better off borrowing Tex2 or Ya2 for pillar destruction and constant pressure
austere sandal
I tried borrowing a bunch of diff ops but none of them were working too well, I heard guardmiya is good but I tried borrowing and it didnt work
so even tho my amiya is level 80 e2 idk if its worth getting my own rn im on 6-11 there
spark sinew
guardamiya is not good compared to 6* yeah
what are you struggling with can this roster stall phase 1?
austere sandal
I made it past the stall once then my left side took too much damage and died off fast, one side is always left too weak it seems
spark sinew
phase 2 you can just drop the pillars on i believe (with like a bit of external damage)
the problem would be to not deploy in pillar path
vocal leaf
guardamiya is not good compared to 6* yeah
what are you struggling with ~~can th...
i used guardmiya to tank mandrogora and manfred, even on h stages, sheโs pretty nice
austere sandal
it wasnt the boss in the 2nd phase, I was dropping pillars and my left side lane holders died off despite following the guide and using the same ops as kyos guide for that run
marble nebula
errr about that...... it needs healing i think
austere sandal
I have eyja alter e1 80 is it worth getting e2 for global heal? I dont know how it works but I heard its her best skill
jovial nest
it wasnt the boss in the 2nd phase, I was dropping pillars and my left side lane...
are we considering the same promotions, same levels, same 100% trust on everyone, same potential masteries
you might be skipping some details
I doubt Kyo would only use E2 Ceo E2 Amiya
and everything else is E1...
spark sinew
i used guardmiya to tank mandrogora and manfred, even on h stages, sheโs pretty ...
as a borrow in this team though? looks like a bad choice to me
austere sandal
he was holding left side lane with spot and midnight, I have both at e1 55 lvl 7 talents, would the trust really be a deciding factor on that side getting completely railed?
fallen yew
I'd say hold off a few days and e2 one or two more units
austere sandal
anyone you think would benefit from e2 most?
fallen yew
Have you got all rewards from IS monthlies/challenges?
jovial nest
the thing is, i don't see an operator they have that can be an easy E2 savior
fallen yew
There are lots of "free" upgrade materials and lmd
jovial nest
Even E2 Ines has her limits. She accelerates everything and is a good laner
but she ain't helping against Mandra
austere sandal
as long as Im not missing any challenges I dont see in is, ive done the monthlies in is4
vocal leaf
as a borrow in this team though? looks like a bad choice to me
i didnt mean to borrow, we all have our own after chapter 8, i kinda forgot how exactly we get her
spark sinew
yeah but guy is at ch6
vocal leaf
oh why trying ch9 now then 
spark sinew
i doubt they can breeze through to guaramiya anyway also let's be honest, investment is a bit wasted anyway already
jovial nest
at least you get one boss/elite killer
spark sinew
to unlock 10 11 12 13 i assume
jovial nest
the rest i don't see any
austere sandal
I HAVE 10 SNIPER TOKENS LEFTOVER FROM GETTING MEDIC TOKENS FOR E2 EYJA, IS THE MIDRIFF MY SAVIOR?
fallen yew
Wait ppl can speedrun ch9 now?
spark sinew
it's unlocked after ch4
glass monolith
Me on original Mandra clear - 20 minutes stall
Me now -
spark sinew
ngl i'm curious why do you have so many maxed 3* but i might know the answer
fallen yew
Also link the guide you're referencing from
austere sandal
I was told they are cheap and good for early game and I also was following guides for my first event
vocal leaf
Me on original Mandra clear - 20 minutes stall
Me now -
i remember spawn camp left side with bibeak, she used to be my only way to stop those flying guys
jovial nest
I was told they are cheap and good for early game and I also was following guide...
problem with low rarity guides are...
it's a goddamn newbie trap
to anyone who don't want to try it on their own
and just want to copy
austere sandal
I guess I will e2 schwarz and if I cant beat it I reap what I sow saving 300 pulls and skipping so many banners 
jovial nest
capping 3* is still cheap....but not cheap in early game
spark sinew
they're bad if you try to copy them, but they're fine
CCs should explain more clearly how to use guides
fallen yew
This guide?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g-kZeyfAA8
jovial nest
strictly speaking there weren't any insane ops to get in the latest banners so far
austere sandal
This guide?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g-kZeyfAA8
ye that is the guide ive tried like 10 times, ive tried others too but this got me farthest
jovial nest
your roster is good
a lot of room still for some more boss killers
glass monolith
Future BS is more BS than current BS
spark sinew
and
we literally have degen ray coming up
there's no real reason to pull for other ones
fallen yew
ye that is the guide ive tried like 10 times, ive tried others too but this got ...
When does it fail?
jovial nest
ok so this is the thing...
glass monolith
Incoming Ray in 1 (51/50 current pity)
jovial nest
they want the UI, right?
spark sinew
cool but pulling won't help there
jovial nest
the UI requires a 13-11 clear....
austere sandal
When does it fail?
first couple times failed at holding then after I upgraded healers my left side dies when the boss is walking down the midlane
jovial nest
my dude, that's a LOT of ch10-13 to clear
and those are not easy
not for your status
we're talking sanguine artillery
spark sinew
and it's not the roster itself that's a problem here (not the ops availability)
jovial nest
nachzerer dogs and army
fallen yew
100% trust max em
jovial nest
ops devourers
spark sinew
i feel like we're talking about different points
fallen yew
And watch out for skill timing
jovial nest
it ain't unlocking shit...
spark sinew
it unlocks next stages
glass monolith
I love those whip dudes in chapter 13 because i don't have 4*-5* which could no brain them
jovial nest
does this matter btw?
spark sinew
first couple times failed at holding then after I upgraded healers my left side ...
tried adding more ops?
kyo also uses perfurmer
and you don't
austere sandal
does perfumer cover something eyja or warfarin would be worse at?
jovial nest
global HoT
so if Kyo is using isolated operators from medics
Perfumer heals them a bit
tall cairn
Oh hi qb.
austere sandal
ok thank you my friends, I will try to e2 shwarz and level my perfumer, I appreaciate all the help
get trust on midnight and spot too
spark sinew
what are you borrowing here
austere sandal
I borrowed saria for good result at stalling
spark sinew
i wouldn't bother with perfurmer tbh
and maybe borrow texas alter
chip the boss, chip the pillars, help left/right side
tall cairn
fixing it and dipping
jovial nest
ok thank you my friends, I will try to e2 shwarz and level my perfumer, I apprea...
ok one tip
you have 2 medics raised already
spark sinew
you can go cosplay too
jovial nest
the last thing you need in your sitaution
is a 3rd...
you're better off finalizing your main squad
and E2ing everyone in that squad
SL7ing everyone in that squad
spark sinew
yeah, i just mentioned perfurmer as the reason why your left side probably dies, despite the guide being fine
tall cairn
Thatโs true, but where else to get maintenance posts?
spark sinew
it's better to use other stuff to fix it
fallen yew
Also if your goal is the UI, raise your good units
austere sandal
I have a level 90 ticket im saving for skadi corrupting heart, would level 90 schwarz help enough to justify using it before I want to?
fallen yew
3/4*s can only get you so far
spark sinew
level 90 mountain maybe helps
schwarz technically would, but...
jovial nest
I have a level 90 ticket im saving for skadi corrupting heart, would level 90 sc...
skalter....well you do you...
fallen yew
Max lvl E1s are bad too
jovial nest
Max lvl E1s are bad too
theyre new
fallen yew
If you can't/don't intend to E2 them right away
jovial nest
oh you're right on that one
like E1 55
and only go up if they can promote e2
all the way to e2 40
newer players have the potential thinking that leveling from E2 is expensive
nah....
it resets the inflation
so E2 1 to E2 40 is cheaper
fallen yew
theyre new
I know, I just want to let them know how to use lmd/exp effectively since their time is running out
jovial nest
than you capping it to E1
austere sandal
I started leaving them at e1 40, e1 55 better?
fallen yew
I started leaving them at e1 40, e1 55 better?
Can you post your roster again, sorted by rarity?
spark sinew
Thatโs true, but where else to get maintenance posts? <:JessNotLikeThis:12149495...
do they matter
austere sandal
spark sinew
leave them at whatever threshold you prefer
it doesn't really matter
just don't max without the very fast e2
tall cairn
~~do they matter~~
๐ฑ true. Okay Iโm dipping.
fallen yew
I'd work on E2ing Bagpepe first
jovial nest
why....
fallen yew
With a healing defender like Gummy behind, BP can take care of left side I think
jovial nest
they need elite/boss killers imo
Schwarz is the play here
Bagpipe S3 sure can kill elites and maybe some bosses
but they need someone with more punch
fallen yew
They said they struggled with left side
jovial nest
Mountain too passive of a choice?
fallen yew
I don't know what they used
spark sinew
i would go schwarz/mountain yeah
dark glade
Does lin dies to cannon?
Wait the chapter mechanic is not cannon anymore later right
Why there is a cannon
austere sandal
I was told to level ops to e2 that used s3, I thought mountain s2 and bagpipe s2 were the main skills?
spark sinew
there are problems with schwarz though
bag s2 sucks
jovial nest
Why there is a cannon
Sanguine enemies are the common theme in ch10 and ch13
spark sinew
but yeah generally not a bad idea
jovial nest
you'll have to tolerate some ch10 artillery early on
fallen yew
BP s3 is her best skill, and since she's already at e1 max, might as well
jovial nest
soon they'll change gimmick to payload transporting
austere sandal
if bagpipe and schwarz will both help with it im good e2ing both, I have 13 days, that should be more than enough to get them both to e2
fallen yew
You sure you've got all these free stuff from IS2?
dark glade
soon they'll change gimmick to payload transporting
Eeeew
spark sinew
screenshot your defenders actually
sacred harbor
I was told to level ops to e2 that used s3, I thought mountain s2 and bagpipe s2...
I'd say bagpipe s3 is the better skill outside of afk stuff, but not every 6 star's main skill is s3
spark sinew
although yeah i think Schwarz is the play here
and for stages just borrow ling
dark glade
Everytime 'transport' mentioned i have genshin baloon ptsd
dark glade
Must be something i need to babysit and explode midway
jovial nest
so i can't say I'm going 100% full power on these stages so far
austere sandal
You sure you've got all these free stuff from IS2?
I have been doing is4, I dont see all the options you have on is2 and some of them are locked, i I havent tried is2 yet at all
jovial nest
Must be something i need to babysit and explode midway
the bomb is tanky af. you only need to keep attacking it to move fast
fallen yew
I have been doing is4, I dont see all the options you have on is2 and some of th...
Try a regular run first
sacred harbor
You attack it to charge up the transporter and make it move, but enemy attacks can decrease the charge and slow it down/stop it. If it loses all its hp it gets destroyed and you have to summon a new one
jovial nest
while enemy attacks damage it minutely but the goal is it slows it down
there's no reverse
it only moves forward
or complete stop
sacred harbor
Or dies lol
jovial nest
AoEs here are perfect
the bomb's tanky af
unless you really let that bomb sit there for minutes
sacred harbor
I didn't have any die at all yeah
spark sinew
doesn't dot work
jovial nest
getting harassed
sacred harbor
It does
modern plover
I have been doing is4, I dont see all the options you have on is2 and some of th...
May have to win a run first time
spark sinew
although idk just use double executors
jovial nest
also
spark sinew
as per usual
jovial nest
the speed of the bomb transport
sacred harbor
So someone with high aspd or dot works well
jovial nest
depends on the damage too
dark glade
doesn't dot work
so i use kafka here
jovial nest
you can nuke it
and it goes to max acceleration
but it needs constant nudging (attacking/damaging) since it loses speed after some movement
fallen yew
You'll then gain access to the IS2 monthlies and challenges. There are 8 monthlies, each can be done in like 10-15 mins
jovial nest
So someone with high aspd or dot works well
I just do it with Tex2 S3 and Ya2 S3. Unique cases of ground tile bans make me use some trust farm ranged ops
waxen swan
Boss kinda gimmicky ngl
spark sinew
well you can still ignore the gimmick
jovial nest
You'll then gain access to the IS2 monthlies and challenges. There are 8 monthli...
btw think about it a bit
with his collection/roster
spark sinew
he's pretty easy to stall, unfortunately
fallen yew
That's a lot of resource to jumpstart your E2ing
spark sinew
jusan please
waxen swan
Yeah his strength is just stun and it's kinda whatever
fallen yew
You only need to reach f3, and they give you 3 raised units