strategy

[somber falcon]

use mlynar and drop saria ig

[smoky laurel]

why saria

and where

[somber falcon]

so she could charge s3

below red box

[smoky laurel]

she'll be blocking the guy, won't she die from him?

[somber falcon]

what

she's way out of the way

[smoky laurel]

the one that comes after boss goes flying

[somber falcon]

oh

[smoky laurel]

you said below red box

[somber falcon]

hm

[smoky laurel]

also do i retreat surtr after boss dies?

[somber falcon]

leftt to hoshi can work ig

[smoky laurel]

saria can't tank these guys

she'll die

[somber falcon]

while chained, yeah

oh yeah fk new guy from there too huh

[scarlet mortar]

saria gets oneshot if helidropped on the dublinn guys

[smoky laurel]

yea lol

[somber falcon]

forgor 💀

[smoky laurel]

strongest arknights defender:

so what now

kill boss, mlynar skill for fireballs

and what to do when boss goes flying

when he lands, i can place surtr ig

[somber falcon]

Use ng s3 too if needed ig

[somber falcon]

Eyja

[smoky laurel]

she won't be able to kill it

how far does the boss fly?

4 tiles? 5 tiles?

[cyan gorge]

Until you get him to half hp

[somber falcon]

Could try saria below mlynar then for amp placement

[cyan gorge]

Or kill the summon

[smoky laurel]

what summon

[cyan gorge]

The dude that spawns on phase 2

[somber falcon]

Eyja and typhon should be able to make him half

[smoky laurel]

can saria tank him?

or does he has absurd damage too

[cyan gorge]

Yes but she’ll get stunned

[glass monolith]

He eat them for HP on 50%

[smoky laurel]

so thats a no then

[glass monolith]

And killing them can be too cancer to bother

[smoky laurel]

yea i never tried to kill him

[glass monolith]

I don't know how much stats those shits have, but in S-3 Ceobe S2 redirects on them if they reach you at which point you just accept that you F'd up

[scarlet mortar]

1.7k atk, not preferred even without the stun

[cyan gorge]

Are you borrowing anyone?

[smoky laurel]

nithingale

[cyan gorge]

I was gonna suggest my setup that doesn’t use NG

[smoky laurel]

i'm already mid game

i've been paused for over 10 mins now

lol

[somber falcon]

Just do it atp tbh

[smoky laurel]

so typhoon and eyja skill for when boss flies?

what about last phase

where he lands

[somber falcon]

Surtr

[smoky laurel]

do i place her before the boss gets blocked by her or can i drop her on top of him

reminder: my surtr isn't m3

[somber falcon]

Before ig

[scarlet mortar]

btw heads up

if you place her on the lava tile pointing up, she scorches the lane

[smoky laurel]

failed

[scarlet mortar]

hoshi might take some more damage

[smoky laurel]

all that afking for nothing

[scarlet mortar]

gg

[somber falcon]

Gg

What went wrong?

[smoky laurel]

boss flew too far

couldn't stop him anymore

typhoon targetted the little guy

instead of chains

[crisp bolt]

are you using s3 typhon?

[somber falcon]

[smoky laurel]

yes

[somber falcon]

Probably should've put her facing left above shining

[smoky laurel]

eyja can't take down the boss alone

i need at least 2

units

for the boss last phase

[crisp bolt]

I ran s2 typhon instead to also deal with the mooks

[smoky laurel]

what mooks

wdym

[crisp bolt]

the ones before the boss

aka the invis guy and the shielder

still did fine for deleting fireballs

[smoky laurel]

good news, my texas alt s2 can solo chains

[cyan gorge]

I had similar ops so if you want another idea:

[smoky laurel]

don't have archetto

or reed

if thats even her

[scarlet mortar]

that's A-2 doe

[glass monolith]

Why archetto even there

[cyan gorge]

Chetto is irrelevant, any sniper works

[crisp bolt]

cheeto

[cyan gorge]

Fireball duty

[cyan gorge]

The exact same thing worked on A3

[scarlet mortar]

pretty sure stat diff and stuff matters

they could probs borrow reed, still an uphill fight

[smoky laurel]

failed again

eyja can't get the boss half alone

i'm not even using skalter anymore so

buh bye

[vernal lion]

use ceobe

[smoky laurel]

she's e1 80

sl 6

skill level

[somber falcon]

try adding saria amp

[smoky laurel]

yes that would work but she dies from the fire

also thats not even the problem

eyja can't simply do enough damage to get the boss down

[somber falcon]

you don't reposition typhon?

[ivory nimbus]

Ceobe even E1 lv7 S2 should still be able to deal decent dmg, since her DPS will rely mostly on the enemy's Defense and how many shot she can land on them.

[smoky laurel]

eyja chain out of range

[somber falcon]

what

[somber falcon]

Wym out of range

[ivory nimbus]

Eyja out of range, not Typhon.

[somber falcon]

the plan is to kill boss left side

[somber falcon]

they're saying that typhon won't be able to shoot eyja's chain if she's in this position
which is

[ivory nimbus]

... wait, I skipped words again. He said Eyja chain.

I hate how my brain worked sometimes.

[ivory nimbus]

Nevermind, continue on.

[vernal lion]

I really like how they bring all kinds of annoying shits

[ivory nimbus]

I'll probably erased Sverdsmeltr out of my minds.

I don't like him.

[vernal lion]

brave croc, eater and assassin hatman must be the real threats

[ivory nimbus]

[smoky laurel]

boss doesn't use his chains in other phases?

[smoky laurel]

she's placed behind red box

top right of nithingale

didn't you see my screenshots?

[somber falcon]

Yes, and i was saying to move her on your next attempt

[somber falcon]

Because this way she's not targeting the construct

[glad sequoia]

i faced her left in case i had to place something I didn't want to kill my own unit

[noble pewter]

Man, how much dmg does lava tile do in dos? I think my nightingale keeps dying cause fireball proc 1200 arts dmg then lava tile burns

[flat sapphire]

Why r u tanking fireball with ng

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just in time, nice

[rare skiff]

Bye DOS

[rare skiff]

I done it a while ago actually

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh yea there is date on it

[rare skiff]

This event is hard

[scarlet fulcrum]

Too many check, hard for young rouster generally

tho the medal doesnt require s stage (only need to unlock)

[rare skiff]

Goodnight Emuach

[narrow patrol]

How do I even get to S stages in dos all I see are T stages

Yep I’ll have to give this event a pass

Don’t think I can do stuff like this till I’m at least a year in with a few more ops in the roster… e2 preferably

[ivory nimbus]

You can complete this event only a few months into the game... if you're willing to mald until your hair falls out.

[narrow patrol]

I’m only two weeks in so hell no imma pass

[sinful gull]

Impressive Results , Nice Clear 🔥

[scarlet fulcrum]

Few months is not new anymore tbh

[glass monolith]

Depends on number in those few and number of meta ops gained with totally legit amount of luck

[scarlet fulcrum]

welp yeah, inb4 they saved for sparks

[glass monolith]

Let's see how hard Vendela will step on my hopes to have pulls of collab banners

[narrow patrol]

I got a lotta cracked banners to pull on. Help

At the very least Virtuosa and shu have 24 free pulls each

[glass monolith]

24 pulls to bait you to spend pulls till first 6* at last day of banner to not waste 24/50 pity, but little you know, your first 6* will be on 70th pull

At least every other banner for me

[narrow patrol]

F

I got@lucky with Ines

I pray it holds@out

But knowing my luck

[glass monolith]

I offbanner into not x5 rosmontis when wanting Mumu, so not sure if i W or L but i am not trying to read that exodia base combo

[scarlet fulcrum]

Atleast pull wisely, dont be average gacha addict. Aim for gud ops only. Tho its ur game, ur choice ofc

Not like it affect much anyway

[narrow patrol]

I’m aiming for shu and degen first

[glass monolith]

Sure, of course (laughs in 111 pulls on Fia)

[scarlet fulcrum]

Shu and degen decent target yea

[narrow patrol]

Only using the free pulls from virtuosa given that the daily pulls do not stack and expire every server reset (for the 14 single pulls you get for two weeks) while we also get a free 10 pull for said event

[glass monolith]

Vendela -> Sample text -> Ash -> Other Ash

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can atleast aim for 1 6* on virtuosa banner, just hold ur pull until last day

(This is bait)

[narrow patrol]

Yeah no

I’ll aim for any six star on her banner using the 2r free pulls if I don’t get anyone good I’ll tough it out

But I’d kill for bagpipe… or mountain

Unless we can get offrate six stars limited as on any event banner too

[scarlet fulcrum]

Next notable 6* like uh, degen, ray, shu, zuo le, and maybe ella. If u are new reedic also gud choice. So save for them

[narrow patrol]

Yep

Not sure what’s rats kit

But isn’t zuo le also a siu like Shu?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Sui? Nope, but same banner

[narrow patrol]

Wait

Shu and zuo le come on the same banner?

D:

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah, the reason some ppl skipping arturia. But like if u confident sure, just dont be cursed

[narrow patrol]

Holy shit I saw zuo le’s kit that barrier is bullshit

[scarlet fulcrum]

[narrow patrol]

I take to it he can’t heal himself compared to other Musha guards tho

Ray isn’t limited at least .

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not that really matter since its exchanged to better thing. And his talent keeps going hard because of it

[narrow patrol]

That’s true

Damn

[craggy trench]

Hey, I need help for A2

Or well, A3

Give me a minute to send my ops

I manaed to get to the 2nd phase

But I can't really kill the companions of the boss in time to get him back on the ground

[tidal sedge]

Reforged Retinue?

[craggy trench]

Yep, that's the one

I don't exactly remember the name

[vocal leaf]

you dont need to kill the minion, it might be easier to focus on getting boss below 50%

[glass monolith]

Not sure about A-3, but on S those minions have even more DEF than boss so screw trying to kill them

[craggy trench]

How do I burst the boss below 50% in time then?

Actually, what is the minimum require for me to clear to get the skin

[jovial nest]

lvl 35 iirc

not high

[remote perch]

Ceobe + Saria + Suzu + Reedic

[jovial nest]

you can get most of your levels on the survive waves stages

[craggy trench]

Ah, shit, I forgot about Ceobe

[jovial nest]

easier than A-3/S-3 imo

[craggy trench]

Does it give enough for the skin?

[summer copper]

yes

do t1-5 and a2 with buff should be enough

[merry narwhal]

^this

try to get the skin, she's wielding a baguette and it's adorable

[noble pewter]

The fireball is moving across her, just the elemental dmg n dmg over time is killing her cause I not using any elemental healer maybe

[noble pewter]

Maybe u can borrow a mlynar n do a2 since u have nightingale for cage taunt n a shamare to reduce def, or a saria s3

[craggy trench]

How do I deal with his second stage?

[noble pewter]

U down him with ur eyja s2 or s3 n ntrk top, drop cage to right side so fireball don't kill mlynar who already prepared at the corner the whole time, when he down 1st phase u can coffin eyja n ntrk so u can redeploy them later, then when he gets up into flying form activate mlynar, it shud bring him down to 50% quite fast n he will walk, u can then throw down ntrk again n activate ur shamare doll etc, ur cuora shud be blocking the way n nightingale can use s3 n refresh cage taunt to left side if needed to mitigate dmg

[craggy trench]

Hold on, Mlynara in which corner?

[noble pewter]

https://youtu.be/wJGg9XlfN90?feature=shared u can do sth like this, u don't need Yalter cause all she doing is unbinding chains, n u have typhon who very good at that with s2

[craggy trench]

Imagine Kaltsi healing oher people

[noble pewter]

U can try put shamare at S, typhon at T

I not sure how tanky ur cuora is, but since u have typhon s2 n shamare pelting enemy u might able kill companion guard faster n prevent her from overrun typhon also 40% stun every shot, might help survive

[craggy trench]

This is only at A2, yeah?

[noble pewter]

Yes, if a3 u may need more firepower n the companion guards may hit even harder

But u can try this same strat at a3 if ur dmg n survival is enuf, as the mechanics not that different, just enemy stat more bloated

Typhon at T should not require any healing at all provided u never allow her be a target for chain or fireball to go near her as she is away from lava tiles deploy order may be important at start, but once u get mlynar down he will taunt all chains, then as long ur typhon n eyja keep releasing him, no one else can become target to be chained

[craggy trench]

So, Mlynar is last, yeah?

[noble pewter]

U can throw him down anytime actually, cause he has passive taunt u may want to let the 1st companion guard walk onto cuora tile b4 u put down cuora, that way u can take out both top n left mob with 1 activation of mlynar

So something like split box the 1st companion guard so he in range of mlynar later, then u throw down ur eyja n typhon afterwards

If u can't release shamare from chain it shud be fine, she not on lava tile n nightingale constant healing her, later typhon s2 can release her

[craggy trench]

Why did they make this skin so hard to get

[noble pewter]

So that victory will be all the sweeter

[craggy trench]

How do I coffin reliably?

[somber falcon]

either last deployed or be around boss when you beat p1

[noble pewter]

When boss gets downed 1st time n stab sword into grd, all 8 square around him will get chained , retreat then to make them go into coffin, if u accidentally destroyed the chain u will be unable to coffin urself

Other than that he will chain someone at fixed timed interval, being chained also prevent u sp gain so don't leave important op that need sp to charge skill be chained too long

[rose patrol]

what is this tankiness

[craggy trench]

I couldn't do it. It's 2.30 AM rn

I'm not getting the skin, rip

[summer copper]

dont worry
for global servers we still got 8 and half hours

u can still do the thing for an hour after u wake up

[noble pewter]

Make 12 attempts b4 u give up or sth what's going wrong in ur run anyways?

[summer copper]

timing of the lava is a big thing

also many ppl dont know reforged retinue's third attack stuns

and boss 2nd phase fireball every 4-5 hit or smth

failed to this a lot of times

[craggy trench]

I keep fucking up the timing

And every time I restart, I gradually lose my patience

[noble pewter]

Ya all the timing is what will make u reattempt

I take 12+ attempt to get it all down

Just one small mistake anywhere can f everything up

[summer copper]

maybe go find sm1 u trust and let them do it

[craggy trench]

Idk anyone irl who plays Arknights

[noble pewter]

U gotta ask urself how much u want the win, if u not really care then u can leave it alone or use buffs

[craggy trench]

I want that skin

[summer copper]

Me:

[noble pewter]

Yes exactly, record then u can replay n see what went wrong

[craggy trench]

The buffs don't seem that significant, frankly

[summer copper]

then do A1 no buff
should be enough too

[noble pewter]

It depends, if ur defender is dying to companion guard, try take hp n def buff, if is healer bot healing fast enuf, healer atk spd, if caster not enuf dmg, etc etc

[craggy trench]

A1 no buff is enough to get the skin?

[summer copper]

lemme see

hold on

ye its enough

but u need to do all T levels too

T1-5, C3+B3+A1 no buff is enough for u to reach more than level 35

[craggy trench]

Hey, what guard can hold the top lane?

[summer copper]

mlynar? idk gotta ask @noble pewter as i didnt do top lane

but mlynar should work tho
saw ppl using it on top lane

[noble pewter]

Ooh dang yea u didn't have any block 2 to hold the top after boss dies huh, use any good block 2+ n high res as the top enemy is arts dmg

Even a Shaw could work

[craggy trench]

It would be real nice if restarting takes less time

I just want a quick restart, man

Dur-nar possibly?

[noble pewter]

Yes she should work

[craggy trench]

What is another cheap, high res option

[noble pewter]

Amiya guard but she can only block 1 n I can't remember if 2 enemy will spawn later or just one, if they spawn 1 by 1 as long u kill fast shud be no problem

[ivory nimbus]

How do I beat Mandragora? (I already nuke her, but the run is a bit on the rough side. Too unstable for my liking.)

[noble pewter]

Ok ya for a2 shud only be one enemy spawn top later according to my replay, so amiya guard or lappland etc can do it

[summer copper]

just realised
thrm-ex got 50 res

[craggy trench]

I tried Lappland and she falls pretty easily

Hmm, maybe it's the timing

[noble pewter]

U may also try to keep stalling the enemy with gravel until mlynar charges back up n then he become the blocker

[craggy trench]

The giant burst of damage by the fireballs, maybe?

[noble pewter]

Yea make sure the fireball is not exploding near ur ops

Remember use the NG cages

[summer copper]

bait it with fast redeploy or just kill it

place fast redeploy far away from ur group

[craggy trench]

I'm getting close, I think

[summer copper]

nice

this skin is a must get
cardigan cute

[craggy trench]

Uhhhh

The timing for the fireballs is just ruthless

Forget about it 0.1 seconds and my entire team dies

[noble pewter]

u can just predrop the cages, they don't take lava dmg, only lose life from their own passive trait

Then drop another when it running out n try nuke boss as fast as can b4 all cage gone n mlynar in danger

[craggy trench]

Oh, they don't take lava damage?

I had no idea

[noble pewter]

Yep all summons don't take lava dmg

That's the beauty of it

[craggy trench]

That makes it much simpler

I was under the impression summons take lava damage

[noble pewter]

So don't be scared need lava timing, just drop cage down when boss about to spawn fireballs after he slam sword in grd when he get downed

[noble pewter]

Go watch my replay at the 4min mark n onwards see cage hp

[craggy trench]

I'm kind of sick of the fact I have to be booted out into the menu for every restart

I almost got it

[noble pewter]

Try visualise what u gonna have to do n prepare beforehand, pause game or slow mo it

[smoky halo]

is this for toplane A stages?

[craggy trench]

Fricked up again

Yeah

[smoky halo]

are you willing to invest in shaw s1m3

she has 23 res with mod

and she can push the invi dudes permanently

[craggy trench]

I wasn't aware she got that much res

[smoky halo]

her talent gives her res

and is enhanced by mod

its extremely funny

but well if u have other units that can just kill the enemies

just use that instead of investing in shaw

[craggy trench]

Alright, I think I jus need to move my placement of cages to delay it a bit longer

[noble pewter]

N if u lack just a bit push to kill boss faster than he kill u n u have free slot, just bring thrm ex, 20% fragile for 8 secs can help

Or amiya guard cause she boost everyone 8% stat n x2 on skill

Or lv up ur units so all their stats is rounded up to numbers divisible by 5

[craggy trench]

I'm out of EXP cards

I'll do it one more time

Otherwise, I'm sleeping

[noble pewter]

I live in Asia so it's 11am here for me

[summer copper]

i live in aus and its around 12:30 for me

[noble pewter]

Yea if u still have time to do after wake up, might as well get some rest

[fleet plinth]

D-does... anybody have a levelled ceobe or ebenholz i can borrow just for today.... none of my friends have one and it's my last chance of beating a3

[craggy trench]

I'm not getting the skin

Goodnigh

I deeply resent this game mode now

[noble pewter]

What part u failing at?

[sterile delta]

i do if you havent gotten someone already (ceobe e2 lvl60 s2m3 mod3, ebenholz e2 lvl 60 s3m3 modx1)

[noble pewter]

Ok I removed my modules n tried to do it with the most similar ops I could find, it shud be doable, but important u use shamare doll at key moments

If the opening is hard with the chains, use thrm ex to bait the 1st chain

Mlynar + doll shreds boss fast, eyja s2 might be better than s3 cause u can unchain mlynar faster n no need micromanage https://youtu.be/-lhmEHYKe10?feature=shared

[pseudo cargo]

I dont have mizuki. should I go for Aschalon ? or just stick with ethan and manticore instead ?

[soft crystal]

Ascalon seems like a slightly better Manticore upgrade

[summer copper]

Wait wha
u can bait fireballs with thrm ex?

[noble pewter]

No I mean the opening chains

[summer copper]

u can bait those?

[noble pewter]

Here I did it with even worse ops

[pseudo cargo]

Basically Fireballs aim for latest Deployed operator.

[summer copper]

Wait wait wait

[noble pewter]

The chains r always last deployed afterall

Using thrm ex he is destined to die, but chain help him refresh his long redeploy cooldown too

[summer copper]

Alr I thought thrm ex can't be targeted

Lemme try

[pseudo cargo]

oh... well I'll stick with Manticore instead then ...

[noble pewter]

u just need time him to not explode b4 he get chained

[summer copper]

O

[soft crystal]

Well

[summer copper]

Can't explode

That's kinda useless

[soft crystal]

Slightly better manticore is kinda downplaying it

[summer copper]

But ok

[soft crystal]

Shes a lot better manticore

[limpid siren]

manticore sucks

[summer copper]

Ethan god

[noble pewter]

No I mean he is going to explode, so make sure boss chain him b4 he explode n dissappear off the map then not targetable for boss

[summer copper]

Would be better if he can explode while chained
Isn't that awesome

[noble pewter]

See how thrm ex helps take out the early wave n returning to ur hand without cooldown just need to free him from coffin later

[noble pewter]

Yes bro he does

[summer copper]

Aiyo wait

WHAT

[noble pewter]

this is pro efficient play

[summer copper]

Alr got an idea for 5 6* ops

But certainly can't finish it

Can yostar extend the time

[turbid badge]

hoes kit looks fun but sticking w WC

[summer copper]

Yes

And

I just did smth that suit W perfectly

Just cooked some pineapple fried noodles

[turbid badge]

blogging

[noble pewter]

What's wc

[turbid badge]

guess

acronym

[noble pewter]

Ooh windchime

[turbid badge]

Ye

havent used her much

[ivory nimbus]

So, does anyone have advice on how to deal with the ch. 10 Londinium Artillery? Had an awful time trying to redirect it with Gravel, and it kept clipping my ranged ops.

[turbid badge]

why tf r u using gravel

[summer copper]

It targets who ever with highest block

[turbid badge]

gravel only one block

[ivory nimbus]

+block slugs.

[summer copper]

So a module 3 hoshiguma or S2 cuora can do the trick

[glass monolith]

ranged units are 1 block too, that shit respects taunts and last deployed (don't remember if we have ranged with taunt)

[summer copper]

u prob got smth with higher block

So just use hoshi or cuora

They can tank artillery

[glass monolith]

Also when you deploy operator there is few frames before they become legit target

[turbid badge]

do the dp refund trick

[ivory nimbus]

Wait, really? I thought it's a ton of True Damage.

[turbid badge]

refund before cannon hit

[summer copper]

I think hoshi can
Not sure if a E1 cuora can tho

[turbid badge]

3001 hp.

[glass monolith]

Hoshi can talent block it, e2 max Cuora just barely over 3k health.

[turbid badge]

alot of operators can casually tank the cannon now with module +hp and the introduction of more operators that increase max hp,

[summer copper]

So
When will thorns get mod

[turbid badge]

dreadknoughts, crushers etc are some operators that can tank at a fairly low level

bloated max hp

[glass monolith]

Nian/Hoshi/Heavyrain/Croissant/Matternhorn are defenders with high max hp i think

[ivory nimbus]

I have E2 lv40 Cuora.

[summer copper]

Once I'm a new player
And I was like
Aiyo blaze can tank artillery
But it can't it's her talent

[turbid badge]

You don't need to tank cannon honestly

In most maps for cannon i bring noir corne

To bait etc.

or Yato

[summer copper]

That's me lmao

[ivory nimbus]

They needs 3k+ HP to survive?

[turbid badge]

Yea

[glass monolith]

It does literally 3000 damage

[turbid badge]

teue damage

i dont think dr

works?

Well there is true damage dr

[glass monolith]

We don't have true DR as far as i know

[turbid badge]

but its only like guardian modules

[glass monolith]

Shelter specify Phys/Arts

Oh guardian module might be, don't know

Let me quickly cannon Saria

[turbid badge]

i cant think any other sources

[turbid badge]

maffs

[glass monolith]

Ok that module reduce true damage too

[turbid badge]

It does right

yea

[glass monolith]

Saria took 2550

[turbid badge]

Enemy iirc is kristen

For any other operators idk

So for newbies stick with noir corne, gravel, yato baiting for slugs

[ivory nimbus]

I think I'll just use Yato and Noir as bait. Can't really afford to max level Cuora right now.

[craggy trench]

Ah I think I misunderstood some of your instructions

[noble pewter]

Shamare doll very low cooldown u can use for extra survivability or to kill faster

https://youtu.be/ICC-_wlvAPA?feature=shared another clear same strat but with weaker ops, use ur stronger ops for easier clear I might have got lucky at that fireball when he btw mlynar n amiya though

[dense kayak]

How does Shining's defense boosts interact with targets? I was considering the likely terrible idea of getting Hoederer to use with Ines and W, probably to worse results overall, and thinking Shining boosting targets defense with passive + barrier could mitigate the goose egg he has for defense. But I never really leveled or used her, does the S2 defense boost also affect her passive def gifting, or would that be +50% of base 0 and just the flat 60-140 depending on module?

[pseudo cargo]

for SSS this is including clearing boss stages right ?

[glass monolith]

all stages

[pseudo cargo]

.... ah ok2 I'm a lappdumb anyway lol...

[noble pewter]

Ok u might want the boss to fly over mlynar b4 shredding him to death, cause if he blocked by mlynar n u have no cages he will spawn huge fireball right on top mlynar which instantly explode n kill everyone, if he fly pass mlynar n 1 tile below, the fireball need time travel n ur kroos/ash/typhon can hopefully kill the fireball cause it low def, otherwise u need pray nightingale 20% arts dodge work

In my clear I just noticed the 10k arts dmg fireball exploded, mlynar has high hp n 66 arts res, he took 3400dmg, while my ranged op all succeed their dodge which is crazy as 3 success in a row at 20% is like 8% chance of occurring

[pseudo cargo]

oh this quest as long I have kazimierz Operator it should be completed right ? I don't need to complete the stage

[glass monolith]

I have no fucking idea where fireballs spawns and where it reach and no intention to figure anything of that boss out

[summer copper]

u still got an hour and half

Just do A-1 with no buffs

Not hard

[foggy grove]

her talent add to the base stat yeah

[latent monolith]

Shining's talent def is added to the base, and it helps % buffs

[noble pewter]

Hmm it says complete an operation, I guess u can try go in n instant leave by pressing complete done, maybe will work, what have u got to lose

[craggy trench]

I did it. I'm so fucking close to the skin

I just need, I think, 90 points

[glass monolith]

Gonna go fast, faster faster faster

[craggy trench]

And I haven't done the wave 3s yet

Or T5

Which is easier

Trying to clear Wave 3 or clearing T5

I need 2 wave 3s

To get the skin

I think A3 is off the table?

I mean, I could try A3 with a tonne of buffs?

That's also an option

[glass monolith]

T5 is uh.... One where you need to bait bunch of shit i think?

[craggy trench]

T4 was pretty easy. I think I should just rely on Lappland

And who else has Silence?

Besides Lappland

I just bring her during those kinds of missions

[vivid rain]

You can also just ignore silence and kill slugs from range with typhon or some shit

[noble pewter]

I used texasalter n Yalter n just preemptively atk everything

[vivid rain]

Since there are too many slugs here

Also the main threats are the stun crossbow guys from the right so

[glass monolith]

T4 was easy. He need T5

[vivid rain]

T5 isnt even that hard just bring mlynar

[noble pewter]

Yes but might only give u x1 extra lv or so or if u feel u r strong enuf attempt with half buffs or how maybe x1 or 2 extra lv for battle pass?

[vivid rain]

And bait caster to death

[glass monolith]

T5 is Mlynar reflect showcase, also you need to kill bunch of shits and stall final wave

[vivid rain]

Ethan gaming fr

Ngl T5 is much easier than T4

[summer copper]

u can try A2 with full buffs while still get the skin

[glass monolith]

My T5 was Mizuki and Manticore chilling

Until bunch of bad guys beat shit out of their "50% dodge"

[latent monolith]

I did A3 with a couple buffs and it still gave me like 10 tiers of rewards

B and C are irrelevant

in comparision

actually wait that's just because I didn't do the lower difficulties first

don't mind me

[void terrace]

Hmm

Actually is using mizuki s2 to proc hoederers passive more consistently

Worth

I mean it isn't but

Hmmmmm

Are there better options for consistent bind

Yes I'm ignoring ethan

[limpid siren]

can we ignore mizuki too, then?

bind isn't the only condition anyway

you can spam stuns with a bunch of different idiots right?

[peak cloak]

@vernal lion hey Naga, can i borrow your saria s3 now?

[lapis hornet]

guys guys

why's ines so good I see ppl putting her in top 3/top5 strongest units

[sly pivot]

bagpipe of the new era

[lapis hornet]

[soft crystal]

Use Ines and W to be canonically accurate

[limpid siren]

It’s bait

Ines bad

Kermit told me

[sly pivot]

ines m9 worth

saria of the new gen

[limpid siren]

this weirdo named khant told me saria is a fraud

[sly pivot]

🤫

saria stocks at an all time low

[void terrace]

But like

Some enemies stun immune

Bind always works

I guess W with sp steroids would be super funny

Haven't used her in a while. Gonna ptilo stainless her and send the enemies straight to Bosnia

The key thing is I'll probably be using him to tank bosses who can't be stunned. So I might as well have mizuki there to help him bind bosses for some extra dmg

[soft crystal]

He has stun on himself too

[lapis hornet]

wdf wasn't kermit the dude who was hyping her for is

[vernal lion]

I set it, you can borrow her

[void terrace]

I mean saria s3 is epic in IS. She can heal all the way till the boss stage, then turn into a supporter

Someone need pot 6 saria

[sly pivot]

dead slot until ed3 stage 🫡

[lapis hornet]

brah

why you hating on saria now smh

[sly pivot]

its true

now i dont even draft saria

🥱

i just 2 cycle the boss and be over with it

well 4 cycle

[lapis hornet]

was she ever good in is tho

[sly pivot]

helps burst the boss but thats about it

[void terrace]

Saria reedic texalt is the way to go

Plus she can body block and heal

Better value than suzuran

Who is the only other real competition

Suzuran feels a bit too weak

[sly pivot]

skalter 🤫

broken on reedic

i rather draft saria late like right before boss

but then thats hoping for ticket rng

but drafting her earlier feels like a dead slot

[lapis hornet]

yeah I've always hated dead weight you take only for one boss stage

[sly pivot]

and her only real value is one cycling a phase for ed3 boss

[lapis hornet]

schwarz ptsd

[sly pivot]

i just accept that ill 2 cycle one phase

[lapis hornet]

i kid i kid cirno

[sly pivot]

and move on

🫡

it doesnt really change my plans

[craggy trench]

I won't get the skin

RIP

[sly pivot]

u can do it

🫡

last 10 min grind

[lapis hornet]

don't you need a2 with full buffs

go go

surely player from 2020 can do it

[sly pivot]

kyo low end will save you

https://youtu.be/7IMtHJfOHPM?si=zjjDTezc8eNypKCK

swallow ur pride

[lapis hornet]

5 minutes left wdf

[sly pivot]

why is ifrit e2 art here

🤨

[craggy trench]

I fucked up bros

[lapis hornet]

dem

khant didn't lend you his full power

[sly pivot]

its okay the skin doesnt even look good

[craggy trench]

Arggggggghhh

[sly pivot]

🫡

[lapis hornet]

wait did you fail t5 lol

it's the easiest map of the event

[craggy trench]

I started playing it lime half an hour ago

Like

[lapis hornet]

lol rip

[craggy trench]

Fucking hell

Fuck

I hope there's some way for me to redeem this skin later

Has there even been a skin that has only appeared once and never again?

I guess Cardi is still going to wear Christmas clothes

[lapis hornet]

utage pallas cardi skins not rerun so far

they might one day who knows

[sly pivot]

🤫

hibi skin reran

theres hope

[lapis hornet]

ya

[craggy trench]

Cardi-G, wait for me

My hubris

I tries doing A3

[lapis hornet]

maybe don't wait last 30 minutes next cc

[summer copper]

Ye and we forgot to tell u that u only need to do A1

[craggy trench]

I was spending like, 6 hours on this

[sly pivot]

me googling kyostinv 🫡

[craggy trench]

Oh well

[sly pivot]

swallow ur pride

[craggy trench]

It's just a skin

But how am I going to get an A+ in Arknights, which is a totally normal and valid thing to want

[sly pivot]

cheat

🫡

[craggy trench]

Nooooo, my pride as a student

[sly pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-with-butterfly-on-nose-dog-with-butterfly-butterfly-gif-13282441872748349107

me when i copy every available guide and play less arknights

[craggy trench]

Virgin Studies for the Test vs Chad cheats

[lapis hornet]

yeah how else I'm gonna have time for afk journey

[sly pivot]

have u heard my grave biome beats your team and massively buffs any grave related units by 23%

[ivory leaf]

Wow maintenance right after I'm gonna get an e2

[summer copper]

That means the server don't want u to e2

[ivory leaf]

I already spent 2 Emergency sanity boxes and 3 gold rocks just to get a maintenance

[summer copper]

Unlucky

[ivory leaf]

Yep

Time to wait for maintenance to be done

[peak cloak]

much thx, u can replace her now 👍

oh it's mt rn

[grave haven]

i saw a conversation about NTR, many agreed that she's one of the best boss killer but i don't understand that claim. Newer bosses tend to have 1shot mechanic or can't be blocked, and NTR has to block the boss by herself or by the light sword in order for her gimmick to work. I can't make her work and i rarely see people play her, so how do you make her do her job?

[civic bear]

Not all new boss are those mechanic that's why

If she doesn't work on the boss then she's simply elite dealer

Right tools for right enemies

[glass monolith]

You missed part of NTR S2 having 4 shield which makes slow attacking one shot bosses cry in corner, not to mention not consuming deployment slot on doing so

As for seeing people play her - Most videos are either low operator count and/or gimmick clear, or guides which support 1 6* to carry entire stage, which is 80% Mlynar/Ling/Surtr.

[civic bear]

Since guy specified boss killer. ntr works fine on most but not the best for all of them. And you'd preferably want ur boss carry to also be able to sweep the rest of the stage too so.

[grave haven]

that's why i questioned the claim, for bosses without gimmick, anyone can work fine but against bosses with gimmick she falls off the cliff, in order to be called "one of the best" one unit should be really good at doing their job. I m3 her s2 and use her as elite killer, but i never bring her to bosses

[civic bear]

She doesn't falls of the cliff tho

If boss one shots , other melee boss killer would likely die as fast too. Rather she should live longer than most. If enemy unlockable s3 still gives decent range and good atk buff

[grave haven]

um, i think most boss killer beside surtr want to hide behind a tank not directly confront the boss but ntr need to block the boss by herself or the light sword

[civic bear]

Well

You can have sword tank

So it's a bit of both

Not straight up as tanky as surtr. But it's pretty high up there

[lapis hornet]

what's a boss killer brah

if you're thinking of units as independent hypercarry in a vacuum like for is mode then she's not the best

[grave haven]

OPs with gimmick that help them deal with mega high hp, sustain in relatively short peroid of time

[scarlet mortar]

so eunectes

[halcyon adder]

Fr

[civic bear]

Highly specific

Barely anyone has that

[halcyon adder]

Eunectes fits thay description perfectly tbh

[civic bear]

Saria too

[halcyon adder]

[civic bear]

Well damage is a requirement too I'd presume

[scarlet mortar]

i mean that sounds more like a brick than a dps

99.9% of ops don't kill the boss while being unkillable for more than 5s

[civic bear]

Which if it's both combination of damage+sustain

Ntr is pretty high up there

Mainly cuz there's not much better

[scarlet mortar]

is that wiki.gg

[lapis hornet]

mlynar chen and poz have no sustain tho

[scarlet mortar]

ranged ops die to mechanics depending on HG's mood

[grave haven]

yes

[halcyon adder]

They did not say the op needs to have sustain

[scarlet mortar]

melee ops have varying sustain but none at the level of soloing

[lapis hornet]

if enemy/stage has specific mechanics then you pick the units best suited for those mechanics

[halcyon adder]

They said the operator will need to be able to deal with high HP and sustain in a small amount of time

[scarlet mortar]

at some point there's just not that much of a difference beyond "well just kill the boss faster then"

which like, forget sustain and bring mlynar ig

[civic bear]

It's all trade off

[lapis hornet]

for the hardest/most bloated stuff idt anyone will kill by themselves it's a team effort

[civic bear]

Boss killer isn't all 1 dimensional

[halcyon adder]

U guys read it wrong

[high warren]

They gonna make different kind of sheety bosses
Like that civilian one to make up for it

[grave haven]

techically anyone can kill boss even when they do 1dmg per attack if you can infinite tankdown

[civic bear]

Short sustain is still a sustain sir

[scarlet mortar]

"deal with high hp" i assume means dealing enough damage

[halcyon adder]

Yes

[scarlet mortar]

bc like.... does high hp matter if you live

so just bring mlynar

[scarlet mortar]

congratulations, you've solved POO

[halcyon adder]

I think they meant the boss having sustain not the operator

[grave haven]

but as the decripstion said, bosskillers are OPs can do it in short time

[halcyon adder]

So a buffed exu

[scarlet mortar]

there's basically no op that both has sustain and high damage

bc then they'd just be unanimously good

and the gacha game will be over

you'll have to settle, do you want tankiness or do you want damage

[grave haven]

when i typed sustain, i mean for the boss side, like mega high def or res or has a dmg reduction gimmick or evasion

[scarlet mortar]

so damage

[civic bear]

Well first of that description is fanmade so don't take it as a gospel by the dev in categorizing units. Boss killer can mean anything in many different ways

[halcyon adder]

Ya people are reading ur sentence wrong

[lapis hornet]

well

if they have evasion or dmg reduction good thing ntr has true dmg

[scarlet mortar]

yh like

[lapis hornet]

or if they have mega high def or res good thing ntr has true dmg

[scarlet mortar]

it's not kal but it's still a good amount of true damage

[halcyon adder]

It's more than kal

[grave haven]

that's why in the first comment i asked about how do you use her because i couldn't figure it out and i rarely see anyone play her

[scarlet mortar]

kinda finnicky though since the rougher mobs tend to delete her token quickly

[civic bear]

Put down and use skill on enemy

Idk . I slap her on boss and it just works

If it doesn't then slap more op

[scarlet mortar]

nobody plays ntrk bc she's a limited op and she doesn't shit out mlynar tier damage

[civic bear]

Limited the real reason

[lapis hornet]

rarely seeing ppl play her is because the content rarely warrants it tbh, she's more specialized than most generic dps units that are favored nowadays

[scarlet mortar]

old player check

[grave haven]

her true damage gimmick forces her to block by herself or the sword, against generic bosses, she work great but against bosses with 1shot gimmick like many recent bosses, she can't really do anything

[civic bear]

How old is this mf again

Guardknight use her all the time

[scarlet mortar]

shush n*che player

[lapis hornet]

if you mean you don't see guides use her then yeah guides will avoid limited units if possible I assume

[civic bear]

She's just one of the most versatile guard bro

[scarlet mortar]

she'll be more relevant in chapter 13 actually no

DR everywhere

[lapis hornet]

idk haven't played that

[civic bear]

Summon brick. Good damage. Decent range

Who else has that all in 1

[grave haven]

at this point, i don't even remember who is the limited and who isn't

[scarlet mortar]

the vampire boss is a big slug as well

[lapis hornet]

yeah but ppl just go mlynar lol! then they don't need other dmg

is the thought process I assume

[civic bear]

Yeah which is not wrong

That's why ntr is just one of the

Not the best

Top 10 at least

Which is pretty impressive if you ask me

[lapis hornet]

what you're seeing is more like

there's so much dmg nowadays

in 99% of content she's replaceable

🤷‍♀️

[scarlet mortar]

you said that as i went to check the guard record for 13-21

[lapis hornet]

until you hit stuff that wants a lot of true dmg/wants her 0 deploy

[civic bear]

Ntr is like 3 years old now right?

[lapis hornet]

idr at least 2+

[scarlet mortar]

who woke up and decided to give zuo a million damage on a 2s cycle anw

[grave haven]

1,5 year in global

[lapis hornet]

no way she's that new

lemme check

[civic bear]

Aintoway

[lapis hornet]

2 years on global

ak has had an accelerated powercreep spurt of late tho

[civic bear]

The good ol days 🧓

[lapis hornet]

yeah nowadays ppl don't even care about surtr

which I find kinda weird

maybe degen will change my mind idk but she's still bit away

[scarlet mortar]

either bosses instanuke her hp, stun/freeze her or just overstat her

or they fly over her

it is what it is

[lapis hornet]

if surtr gets oneshot/stunned/frozen/overstatted then anyone else would also be

bit of an exaggeration tbh

[scarlet mortar]

eh but she doesn't play as well as mlynar when it comes to static setups

regardless of whether she kills the boss/elite, she'll have to retreat

[halcyon adder]

Surtr still really good tho

Her DMG still great

[scarlet mortar]

this isn't to say that she's bad nowadays, but the convenience of being static kinda gets people

popularity isn't really based on performance

[halcyon adder]

I think she still belongs to my default squad

Altho default squad kinda stupid

[scarlet mortar]

if i had to give a single reason ig it'd be that she's an old op

people got bored of her

[halcyon adder]

Mlynar tho is infinitely superior no doubt

[lapis hornet]

in content where I need to squeeze dmg I tend to use both together, in content that doesn't I don't use either lul

think it's is that rly tilts the balance in mlynar's favor

altho idk I'm not even a big is player I don't draft him lul

[scarlet mortar]

all the new boss variety definitely hurt how she performs solo, but on top of that she isn't the most convenient op to use

hence i brought up the static setup

you often want to just hole up in a corner of a map anw, might as well draft mlynar so you can also station buffers close by

[halcyon adder]

Harder stuffs favour multiple skill activations and a static setup

[scarlet mortar]

maybe also add that elites aren't fodder nowadays too

[halcyon adder]

Cuz u are a new player

[lapis hornet]

ok boomer

[halcyon adder]

Wtf

[sly drift]

Imagine being old player

[glass monolith]

I play this shit for 27 months only to complain about DoS being hard, i am not sugarcoatingit

[latent monolith]

I spent like 30 mins following oyuki vid for A3 and ended up needing buffs

I think the bottleneck was barely not enough HP to survive

[cosmic thicket]

A-3 was fine S-3 was AAAAAAAA

[shell arch]

How hard was DoS S-3 buffless?

Like

R29 hard?

[glass monolith]

Well.... It wasn't 13 operator p6 e2 90 hell

But it was "have those specific 6/7 6*s or suffer"

[smoky halo]

chi said around r25 apparently

[glass monolith]

Don't have Mlynar? Good luck fucking with Chains
Don't have Ceobe with clown car of Suzu Reed Alter Saria Ifrit? Good luck somehow killing that shit it will just activate oven mode with 6000 def and walk away
Quibai can assist at killing boss.
Oh also because cancerous ranged tile position Eyja Berry, as other medics will lack heal and/or range while your entire team cooks alive because Boss phase 2 fireball just HAD to do elemental damage from just fucking traveling

[smoky halo]

the elem dmg is the least of ur concerns tbh

[glass monolith]

"Sorry your unit takes 1000 arts damage, all while boss farts IDK how much aoe damage, while vulcano farted another ~1500 arts damage"

Shall i mention RES DEBUFF FROM BURN?

[lapis hornet]

amigo don't tell me you didn't do s3 buffless

wdf

not rly comparable to old cc tbh

other than boss mobs weren't v dangerous

no deploy/slot limits

[glass monolith]

Yea just fucking 200 second if you retreat operator

[lapis hornet]

at first I thought it was around high-max week1 but actually think it was more like cc4 r23-24ish just dps check

you could game boss chains to redeploy instantly tho

hmm

but in cc4 you could just leak

so actually idk

[latent monolith]

Wait practice cc is gone now?

Did they remove it with dos

[polar crane]

ye

it gone forever now

[lapis hornet]

honestly s3 didn't feel harder for me than idk

day 1 600 in poo

[glass monolith]

Go make DoS 2 and marry it idk

[lapis hornet]

heard it was a cc replacement candidate

was kinda disappointed it didn't have anything above s3 honestly

but I get how it could be rly hard for ppl without all the units

[glass monolith]

"It is easy just have all units and copy youtube".
Fuck you

[lapis hornet]

brah why you so mad

I didn't even copy lul

[glass monolith]

HE, DoS, Vendela dodge

[lapis hornet]

but it was like v gated by your dps

[glass monolith]

Life cringe

[lapis hornet]

btw

which fia mod better?

[polar crane]

the new one better

[lapis hornet]

the 10% on blocked one?

[plucky osprey]

anyone I should replace? the non-level ones are what I'm using interchangably depending on the situation.

[lapis hornet]

you should use your ticket on lappland and slot her in

[plucky osprey]

I'm trying to keep my account as clean as possible

so no rolling or rerolling

not till end game or as far as I can anyways

[lapis hornet]

how'd you get suzu then

or flint

[plucky osprey]

beginner roll

that first 10 pull

[lapis hornet]

yeah so you rolled idk using ticket can't be worse right

but if you rly don't wanna uh

are you doing recruits or smth

[plucky osprey]

ok mr technicality

[lapis hornet]

?!?!

[plucky osprey]

lol

[plucky osprey]

oh nah

i wanna save that too

[plucky osprey]

i always use my first ever roll but nothing after that

so not technically a "no rolls" run

but eh

[polar crane]

ye that one

[lapis hornet]

[plucky osprey]

also I dont wanna mess my account up by doing rolls whenever I have enough

[lapis hornet]

idk your options extremely limited then

[plucky osprey]

6000 gems is hard to get iirc

[lapis hornet]

sounds like 3* with a couple high rarities

6000 gems is like two weeks lol

[plucky osprey]

and not 2 or 3 days? damn

that's 4 rolls a month lol

[lapis hornet]

no?

you get baseline 25 a month

realistically about 35 with events

[plucky osprey]

1 roll a week
~4 weeks a month
4 = rolls a month

[lapis hornet]

one roll is 600

then you get rolls from yellow certs

and free pulls from limited banners

[plucky osprey]

ok we are getting off track. who should i replace in my party?

[lapis hornet]

you don't rly a choice brah

[plucky osprey]

also iirc recruit doesn't give anything good

so why bother?

[plucky osprey]

yeah I do

look at all the choices

[lapis hornet]

idr if you get spot from story

if you do get him in your party

otherwise tank&spank the only thing you can do rly

[plucky osprey]

is gitano good? should Ibreplace bnuy with her?

[lapis hornet]

gitano lava kinda not that different tbh

sure youcould use her instead of lava

[cosmic thicket]

lava is enough usually

[lapis hornet]

nah

he doesn't wanna pull anything or recruit lol

[plucky osprey]

how about mr nothing?

[lapis hornet]

so gitano's bit better

[plucky osprey]

see? that's what I'm talking about

[lapis hornet]

nothing's okay but he drains dp which is gonna be a big problem for you

since you won't even have myrtle

[plucky osprey]

i just wanna know what is good fornwhat I have

i do use other people's myrtle kek

courier is decent for now

[lapis hornet]

wait

you have leon

[plucky osprey]

yeah

i got leon and cute smol fox mage in one roll

[lapis hornet]

yeah so probs don't need leon and another aoe together

[plucky osprey]

ah

what should i replace lava with?

i guess aoe nuker is slower but does more damage than regular aoe

[dark violet]

I'm dealing +60% arts damage with the new dorothy skin.

[jovial nest]

Very nostalgic to have the Sanguines and the artillery once again

[glass monolith]

Let's play a game called "what spawns there"

[rose patrol]

quite convoluted name for a bomb there, W

[void terrace]

Damn hoederer kinda

Ducks

Sucks

Well he's not bad just

He need healers to baby him

A lot

Looked away from my screen for 5 seconds and he died to some scrub

[cosmic thicket]

doesn't warf do pretty well

[rose patrol]

warf s1

[void terrace]

Yeah warf is super value on him

Been just using ptilo to reduce his downtime

Stainless is another epic pairing

With a turret he gets self sustain with no enemies and 20% physical reisist

Which is massive for someone with no defence

Stacks with his shelter too

[turbid badge]

no verdant but hoho

[glass monolith]

why there is lore and PV in tutorial stage

[dark violet]

didn't have enough space in the regular stages

[jovial nest]

Memetic gold

[turbid badge]

hoed acquired no cendela sad

[void terrace]

Ikr

Got baited

30 pulls

Got hoederer on FIRST PULL. Then no goddam vendela

For 30 pulls what tf

Did they mix up the rates lmao

They entered the wrong rates into hoederer and not gen

Ven

[turbid badge]

ig i wont use cendela

Vendela

[glass monolith]

51 pull, no vendela 🫂

[turbid badge]

i wanted her cuz cool mechanics

[glass monolith]

No 6* too so YOOooooooooooooooo Eaziest first pull Ray incoming

[foggy grove]

I have too many ven

Clearly the rate up is not a lie

[dark violet]

10 pulls and all I got was verdant

[tall sierra]

U guys go straight to adverse right?

When doin new campaign

[dark violet]

yeah

[glass monolith]

4 offbanners and Kafka, F you

[glass monolith]

Going normal stages and then adverse can give more content.... Don't care, going adverse

[turbid badge]

i got kafka to

[dark violet]

kafka dupe gang

[glass monolith]

At least i gained first Paprika

[void terrace]

I am increasingly certain

They entered the wrong rates for hoederer and ven

Like everyone doesn't have her

But it's raining hoes

[crisp bolt]

13-15 is pain to me

[void terrace]

13-5 was troll

Whelp it's getting late

Gonna bust vamp bitchs ass tomorrow

Hoederer is fun

But not the tank I was expecting

Stainless is insane with him though. That 20% phys resist is super value

[foggy grove]

It's just confirmation bias smh

[void terrace]

Stacking 2 medics like ptilo and eyja on him turns him into a very viable wall against bosses for the duration of his skill

[foggy grove]

[void terrace]

Ven or the hoederer thing HAHA

[dark violet]

3 people not getting her, that's a solid peer review study

[void terrace]

Definitely a confirmation bias

But eeh

1 pull

It's good

[crisp bolt]

man doing an auto of 13-15 is awful, I hope to never have to farm for that mat

[dark violet]

wel'l get enough of those from rewards

only madmen like me who try to mod 1 every op will ever care about getting more

[leaden kraken]

I HATE story 12....
The DP limit is the worst mechanic this far... means I cant play with anyone of the characters I like. Only low cost characters are valid.... GOD

[dark violet]

use dorothy

[crisp bolt]

commander isn't immune to stun

[lapis hornet]

how you guys alr at 13-15

[crisp bolt]

pots

[cosmic thicket]

sanity pot spam

[lapis hornet]

I'm outta energy after 13-3 lmao

[dark violet]

they don't read the story

[crisp bolt]

I didn't realize it but game put me back to normal so I had to redo everything from 13-12+ back in adverse again

[cosmic thicket]

lmao

[leaden kraken]

hates the DP cap enough to basically not continue the story :P

[dark violet]

I'm not joking btw, dorothy works extremely well in chapter 12

mine detection range and low max dp cost

[cosmic thicket]

so does the blue woman

[leaden kraken]

The point is, the characters I like all cost in the 30+ range.... There is not even a point in bringing mudrock. By the time you have enough to deploy her, the map is ended...

[dark violet]

yes

bring dorothy instead

[leaden kraken]

I dont like dorothy, in the slightest 😛

[dark violet]

skill issue I'm afraid

[cosmic thicket]

it's chapter 12, by the time you get there you should have plenty of options to use