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Timing is tight if you follow it
Exu have pots but this is “low” op so lol lmao
Almost didn't finish part 1
It’s just pot 3 anyway
pot4
as expected
she need that +27 atk
Idk anyone else that do it with exu
Oh but you can prob overcome pots with rng
Since skalter doesnt have exu buff
when exu was bursting down the boss
ohh exu buff didnt fall to skalter
i tho it was
But then again it wasnt even close lmfao exu could simply face backward
She quite literally just kill boss with less than half a tile of range
And if you want you can bring justice knight
Or thermal
both are fragile
They need to name it something different

Oh then justice knight wont work either
Welp guess i’ll just have to raise pramanix then
add schwarz not jk or thermal if wanna buff exu further
based 
More def debuff grahh
Thank god It's over. I got lvl 39 for now. and I'm sorry I just got confused about the boss.
pro
so uh.. any Ascalon Review ?
pretty bad damage, has good slow
ugh.. not sure getting her or not then
Mizuki upgrade
Ig turning an op from usable to pretty ok is busted enough
Puts her back in the laneholder show
I can comfortably start with her on IS
Which is usually something I've only been able to do with gavalter
Like blaze gavalter together in a team is just a really funny concept
Even funnier if it's gavalter in front of blsze
As in after I get her promotion by floor 2
Even with bad draws she holds out surprisingly ok even on nature 9 and aboge
Above
Just glad to have another brainless guard pick.
Well I've been using her mostly on 9 to get the ending mini medals on the starting ones
12 is where it picks up
And she's tearing through defenders and champions easily
9 is pretty tame
Even popukar is fine on 11
Just glad to have the ol firecat kicking
I just find the concept of blaze behind gavail to be hillarious
Also gives me a reason to use saga again to charge blaze
Wow 💀
D12+ annoyed me. It's not fun to have less index and thus do less stuff in a run
I cleared N15 once on ending one
Never touching it
Again
Just going to N9 and get all the opening squad ending medals. It feels so much better than is2 which I did a while back
Less rng on your ending choice
Is3 is somewhat ok too but ending 4 can still escape from you if you have bad rng
my is2 on d12
any opinions on whats priority for clearing S-3?, Ines s2m3 or Ceobe s2m3?, I only have enough time to get 1 or the other
I did with friend support Ines be SL7 (no friend bozo). ez Ceobe for damage if you ask me 
ceobe wants mod most of all, s2m3 good too
I have the module maxed, just havent m3'd her or ines yet
@tidal sedge jesus vendela numbers are so depressing
even in comparison to hibis alt
like this through and through feels like a waifu pick 😭 if i raise her
What's the enemy atk interval you're assuming for calculating reflect
i am simply not assuming
bc s1 does more than s2 before reflect
with more uptime
and is less conditional
brawler enemies it’s definitely better
and will probably scale better into multiple enemies
but uhh
just so much variance in performance
Ignoring a big part of the skill doesn't make for accurate comparisons.
i’m not really ignoring it persay
i acknowledge that it is a contribution
but the variance is dependent on enemies
which doesn’t make for a consistent option
number of enemies + enemy atk interval
I think she's overall worse than Hibifier too. But I've yet to take a calculator to her output to ascertain how much
the plan seems to be just camp with a defender or anyone with high block and capitalize off multiple enemies reflecting but man
i think her talent is good actually
but i think it would be better if she was a regular medic with normal medic skills
i’m still pulling the banner bc of hoederer
What's appealing to me about her is that her skill sticks to healing target so I likely won't run into situations with Hibifier where I pop s2 and it only lasts 2 seconds because it locks onto half-dead trash
and it’s not like i dislike hibis alt i actually enjoy using her
maybe s2 will see use for 5* only against seaborn spitters
or other enemies that attack from afar
but that’s all i can think of
Also from what little I've used of Hibifier s1, her s1 blows because it's cycle isn't suited to most map wave rhythms as solo healer. I expect Vendela s1 to suffer similarly even if it's paper numbers are better than her s2
I mean Hibifier has an offense buff talent
the offensive nature also covers the defensive nature of the kit because of how incantations work
Vendela's goes pure healing, but damage = healing so Hibifier isn't that far behind
Yeah exactly
it just feels like failed design
It'd have maybe been more interesting if the talent was much stronger
But Vendela's buffs all healing onto highest hp op in her range, so maybe they though adding a secondary healer made it more even
maybe ig
Just give me Vendela if you don't need her 
Though players desire self sufficiency so it's a mismatch between player expectations and designer perspective
i will probably still raise her
after all there are bad ops that in practice can still clear a stage
but it just doesn’t bode well for her use cases
As long as she's more convenient vs mobs than Hibi I'm happy enough.
Though if the game had better QoL for seeing enemy hp bars I'd probably think more similarly to you
i’m trying to find use cases
and like her healing bonus is to a target not just to her healing directly
so i think ok maybe i put her with a healing defender who has higher hp and will have their own healing benefit as well
but i question if thats any better than just a regular medic
The funnier cope is that Hibifier s2 has fixed and unchangeable interval, so Vendela is better in IS if you get stuff like chalice 
is i mostly allow myself to use 6* so tbh neither get picked over reed 
but yeah aspd relics will make vendela look better
roster for sayuna's guide of a2 (my version)
vanguards: myrtle, plume
medics: hibiscus/myrrh, ptilopsis, lancet-2, sussurro
defenders: cuora, cardigan/gummy
caster: click/kjera
specialists: gravel plus other fast redeployers (for bait)
support: typhon s2
I'm having trouble with SSS, Alsterii in Emergency mode.
Anyone got a recommendation of what units and module to use?
My usualy go to of several snipers, to boost GG and Suzuran, isn't holding back the flood gates, and the silly train
is it possible to clear s3 without Suzuran mlynar ines shining Surtr? (can pick one of them from supports)
Possible? Probably. Buffless and without some crazy mald strategy? Probably not
yeah i mean buffless
ines and shining isn't that much needed
i meant nightingale my bad
Suzu and Mlynar are huge QoL in killing boss and mobs
And Mlynar remove need to do anything about chains attacking other operators as long as you unchain him
i have no idea how to kill bosses and mobs in time, they oneshot me and even my monster s3 or Near alt s3 take hours to kill them
idk if they have just loads of hp or high res/def
That's the issue of event, S-3 is just peak of not fun amount of enemy stats
who do you have anyway
i was trying an arts dmg strat using the event "mechanic" of the fire to make enemies take more arts dmg, but i can only use 1 lane because the other one oneshots the ally on opposite side, and even then, stuff like ejya s3 barely removes half their hp
of the "meta" ones, Ejya, GG, ceobe, Typhoon, ejyalt, texalt & yato, nearl, kal, mountain, Reed
and then Irene, Sash, Qiubai, Schwarz, Spalter, Aak
and other random 5* but i just lack dps, and nothing can block the enemies and i dont have slowers except saria s3 :/
can you screenshot your ops?
sorted by lvl
looks doable
with what
you can capitalize on arts, you have a lot of them
qb+saria+borrowed suzu should be able to deal with a lot of the enemies, along with ceobe, typhon, reedic and eyja
boss p1 should be doable with them as well, add ifrit s3 and try to burst him on lava tile on p2 for extra res shred
i can't place everything in time before the first 2 enemies start doing 50000 dmg
pretty sure avengers only tickles you on full health 
what? they oneshot my 4k hp nearl
Literally can't kill Cantabile when not on 50% health
the entire s3 nearl buffed by aak and he leaked with 30% hp killing nearl... that's just insane
it just means you have dps to kill them quick
You miss part "They won't kill you and can be blocked while above 50%". Sure "Meta" way is just suzu + mlynar them after stalling first before second in range
what am i doing wrong if it is shotting me?
thing did 3.6k in 1 hit and you re telling me cantabile can block him
above 50%
that one has less than that there
The weeb is below 50%, that’s your issue 
Who? nearl?
The enemy
so basically the idea is just stall them for a bit with, idk, myrtle and sail for example, and just setup the dmg dealer while they're doing that
Will adding a mastery 1 on my Saria S3 can change the gameplay even a little bit or am I coping since I still can't beat the stage A-3 in DoS?
i thought they d do that after x times of attacking bruhh 💀
The latter is far easier btw
so i can just stall while i setup the stuff
and activate everything once the other enemies come so they die too
What do you guys think?
well it'll help if you're using arts
I didn’t use S3 Saria on A3 
you don't have true aoe, don't wait for other enemies 
Does Ceobe counts?
Yes
what about carnelian 😂
btw if i kill the guy that spawns a lot of things, reed s3 should delete anything near them
probably only the furnitures, but yes
ramp up dmg 
maybe it can work, but personally I won't even try her out
Okay
Make sure have or borrow a mlynar, then setup at top at the intersection, then some 3 block defender high phy def to block in front of mlynar n to the right can use juggernaut like penance etc
ill just try this and spam typhoon s3 surtr and redeploys on the boss
u don't want ur ranged op adjacent to ur blocker if possible to prevent possible splash dmg from the big sword guy
Ignore my placement, follow the color letter placement, as long mlynar covering the top he can kill drones that u can use to buff ur defender n juggler so u can reduce boss icecream
Try time icecream reduction to 0 to happen at mlynar so u can do s3 on him for big dmg when he get stunned n fragile
U can also give defender block+1 stack to ur blockers so they can passively reduce train as well as incr survivability
but doesn't the train remove the block when he runs through?
Yes but he will keep respawn drone on ur ranged units which u can kill n u just repeat the process, until his stack run out then he get stunned in front ur blocker, hopefully near mlynar then let him do dmg
If u use defender stack on a blocker u can make them permanent +1 block too
Also note the drones r tanky n will likely aggro ur ranged units preventing them doing dmg to the mobs which will cause u to be overrun, thats why u want mlynar who is true aoe pure dmg n can cover lanes as well ur ranged tiles, active him when enemy start piling up on ur defender
It is better to clear mob than save for boss as well, as u can leak boss n still win if have full life, but if ur game plan is sound, it shud be no problem n boss shud die in 2 cycle of being stunned n atked by mlynar
If u see bully run past right, don't panic, they will try go up n exit thru top left box, so ur defender n mlynar still can catch them afterwards
Damn
Blazes status resist is putting in work
I forgot she had it till the running shaman couldn't freeze her on floor 3
does anyone know how to stop the a-3 boss from aoe one shotting everyone
By killing the ball he fires
Also does hand of outburst work on bosses? I know the previous two iterations didnt
you need to kill the enemy that appears in the top right red box quickly
he makes all spies unable to be blocked
what ball
I meant in his second stage when he reaches <50% hp
When he targets an op he sends a small ball towards them
If you slow and kill the ball
It doesn't explode and kill everyone
Same as his transformation from phase 1 to 2
wait i thought he only sent those during his transformation stage
fml
lmao yeah i had trouble for so long not realizing that was the issue
It does. IS3 Hand of Choker also worked on bosses
I'm on A3 and I can typically get to phase 2 but get wrecked by the fire orbs. Why can't I taunt them with nightengale cages like I could the ones while he's transitioning phases?
u can?
Yeah you can
I try dropping them right before he revives but the orbs keep targeting my defender
Yeah he goes flying, I drop him, then put down a cage and when he comes back up the first fireball he casts ignores the cage on the other side of the map and just goes straight for my defender which wipes my team
maybe it’s because cage is too far and it doesn’t count as last deployed?
I thought the ability had infinite range and the cage wast my most recently deployed object
i think it does have infinity range but he’s ignoring the cage because it’s not an operator
@polar crane
3-8?
that's why I'm confused though since the orbs in his transition phase do go for the cage
;-;?
No wait it's 2-3
that's chapter 2
but ok let me look at the stage
use the roadblocks to block 3 tiles next to blue box
you can put the roadblock under the blue box
Just drop it before he dies
so they all go into the same path
hmm extinction skill is only for operator, gotta add something to destroy the fireballs, something like reed or eyja, sa…
Where?
I have ejya, gg (s3 to burst him down while flying) and typhon (s2) set up, but they can't kill the orbs in time
Like around the blue box
Just leave the right side open
the 6 o'clock
You can block the rest
I got your 6 
The defense tower i put there?
the roadblock
The balls have high res but low def
What defense tower 
tower defense game have defense tower 
I did put roadblocks on top and left, but the bottom is nightmare
Put a roadblock there too
You have 3 roadblocks
you can put road block outside of the arrow btw
oh you should have eyja s3 for last phase, you don’t have saria/suzu to help? is that or add someone for the second phase
it just a suggestion not a must
Here, visual aid
Wait a min... Then what is the one light is guiding me for...? ;-;
suggestion
Suggestion
it just a suggestion not a must
My iq is killing me ;-;
Well thx for the information ;-;
I have both, I'm using saria, haven't been using suzu because of limited space. Or do you mean using saria S3? She's on s1 just for healing. I've mosly been trying to adapt the kyo guide, since I have all the ops for that except for hoshi so I've just been using a 90 one from a non-friend support.
use saria s3 idk why people use s1 in that stage, maybe the lack of other source of healing
you shouldn’t need hoshi either, one tank is enough imo, i borrow mylnar here to bait boss skills
@summer copper I sorry that I got back to you so late
But I straight up can't follow it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shw-1YZU6sw
Like my units just can't keep up with yours for one reason and the other
I suspect my Typhon not being M3 might be part of the problem
Also it breaks cause I need to adjust cause I can't get Texalter out as fast as you do
oh thank god I beat it. I'm not gonna bother with S
Anyone else got ideas for A3?
I got mine done with Kyo's strat
From experience Kyo's guides are kinda unreliable
i just post a clip above, try watching more on youtube, there should be many clears
I mean that clip you're using like 4 units I don't have a direct replacement for
Same thing happens with youtube clears
how he literally gives you the answer just copy him
Dunno, everytime I've tried his strats they don't work
yeah some units are really hard to replace, but you can also combine ideas, i use amiya as replacement for surtr in s3 for example
Kinda struggling at A3 with this roster. This account doesn't have Suzuran, Reedalter, Ceobe, Skalter, Typhon. It has some other units raised though, these are just some notable ones
From what I've seen it seems those are the key units you need to have to clear this lol
If I play for sustaining the boss phase 2, I don't have enough damage. If I go for damage, my units get obliterated
Like the most I've gotten to is taking the boss phase 2 with Okuyi's guide
But um
Kinda runs into the same issue where shit just breaks if you don't have the right masteries or units
that team is capable to make it, just borrow reed or suzu, suzu might be better
borrow ceobe
I feel bad cause W put toghether that clear but my units just can't keep up with his
ceobe borrow + surtr s3, eyja caster buff goes hard
Hmm
ur trying to destroy boss last phase as fast as ucan
It's the truth though
Surtr is for boss phase 2 when it's down
let me see if yt verified me
I assume that's what they meant
Yeah issue is shooting him down at all though
how is your A3 journey Lancer?
i have no idea if the other guy did it yet
really??
But it's no good still
W's strategy broke from like moment zero cause my Myrtle is S7
then borrow suzu and use saria s3, just eyja s3 can destroy boss in few seconds
i think borrowing another dps like ceob is faster
Eyja S3 is not good at handling the chains though
but suzu slow is nice
Which if you don't ends with your whole team locked up
Also as an aside I had forgotten but
There's no slot on this team Surtr
I need Typhon S2 in her place lol
What's Texalter for?
probably chains?
Yea
use s2 
Just let the casters handle chains I think
That way you save 1 deployment slot
I'll try my run with borrowed GG s2m3
Can't wait until I friend someone with Ceobe/Suzu
why people borrowing hoshi, mylnar could be a more offensive choice
ok
then might try play on pc emulator for faster clicks and stuff
this is fun
I was lmao
Oh okay
ok wat now help
Now the Okuyi strat is working for some reason
Well that was fucking anticlimactic
Last time Saria's S3 was nowhere enough to get phase 2 below 50%
Not sure what changed
Does someone have a really easy to follow guide
Or should I not even bother
I'll be honest I just don't have the patience anymore
bro just beat a-3 
Wanna blame anything, blame challenge mode for incentivizing this type of behaviour lol
I actually like this type of challenge
I mean
as an old player, if the activities are all just so easy then I would feel like I played the game for nothing
only things like cc and this can remind me im an old player
Oh I meant like challenge mode in events
This type of stuff is brutal but eh
They let you try out stuff without penalty, which is all I'm asking
o
You have to let it sit for a few minutes to process
ah
anyways
you really want to nuke the last phase
i use skalter to tank
but u can just hit ng s3 & eyja s3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbptRC2k7qc
why nuke while u can easily do constant dmg
Art damage with out caster
definitely very easy

didnt feel like dealing with fireball
Cuz mlynar
but if your not using him u can obv bait yea
with these kinda clears you just put together strategies and implement with what you have



design of pain
but i dont
Whelmore


but still i managed 6 6*

not having saria is the real L tbh
shes the versatile one here
relies on another debuffer like suzu
/slower
dos has me questioning my life frfr is cuora really compulsory have liskarm matterhorn beagle spot as alternatives? stuck on t1 last wave, t5 n a2 
breh i gave up on buffless s3 is just impossible without mlynar or suzu, i need both
its crazy Silver ash and qiubai together aren't enough to replace a single mlynar, he cycles faster with more dmg...
there is qiubai version tho idk if it's potgated
the qiubai version still has mlynar in the squad
oh nvm
rip bozo
eh i don't need ng
on my clear i could have used ptilo and the result won't be any diff
i do cause i need to hold and stall the first 4 guys til the other 2 guys come
cause silver ash can skill once for every 3 mlynar skills
If not stupid +100% redeploy time this stage would be much more copeable
cuz why not lets give everyone +500% redeployment time
exactly
as if mylnar wasn't powercreeping everything already
my ejya and sash are useless
i can use them like
once
without that i could place Saria s3 at the start and then again to kill the boss
dos also known as design of struggle 
show me the vid
i can't understand how he cleared with just these 6
bruh I can't open this
vpn
literally the first thing he places also its a different squad tf
his ifrit looks like a mlynar
are we seeing diff vids?
You open literally different video
dude i literally just clicked the link idk wtf happened on that chinese thing
I think this is the best I can do 😭
either way I'm gonna try this
yes u did well 
will it work without m3 suzuran
Saria block first blade weeb, Eyja alter, QB to block second blade weeb
after QB is chained by boss, Reed alter -> Suzu, After Suzu is chained
Ifrit to break chains, Retreat QB to redeploy her behind Saria
Combo wombo - Saria gets eaten for redeploy, QB gets chained after combo wombo for redeploy
Phase 1 die on lava tile without use of QB skill - Suzu, Reed, Saria in coffins
QB skill right before boss enters phase 2 to break reed out
Combo wombo barely (e2 90 everyone btw) kills boss before he walks out of range of QB and Ifrit. Final like 10% of boss being done with off skill QB
well i assume everything is pot6
cuz my qiubai got deleted before he placed suzu and reed
at least there s free spots for other ops i guess
Are you sure you not activating QB skill on first deploy to not lower HP of avenger?
(edit)
Oh sorry it don't display pots if you friend support in squad menu
Yes he friend supported pot 6
100% sure, Ejya just didnt have enough healing
for Saria and qiubaj
and they re e90 mod3 :/
well almost e90
More string request - (no Mlynar etc), more BS are clear
More stringent the request, more bullshit the clear?
yea I think the lvs, modules n mastery might be necessary, need as much stats as possible to get the most out of them, but maybe if just add 2 more ops everything might be easier hmm
It's not a bad plan, maybe I could do it, but to invest more in op just for a return rate of 5k lmd? Don't think I wanna
this run gets more and more bullshit the more i try to do it, his saria got killed by the 2 dudes at the end so he got redeploy, my saria got oneshot by the other guy first, the one that gets angry when 50% hp. his one got vaporised
Maybe it was the eyjaberry healing n max hp buff etc keeping them alive, n very timely suzu heal activations
N high dmg Reed n heal n dmg reduction etc
hi guys just posting here in case anyone needs some help passing through t5, this guide helped me out a lot i just added another heal at the bottom next to the healer (had some trouble with kyo n sayunas)
nah its impossible without pots even with full squad, the boss leaked with 40% hp and i did his exsct things
???
if boss leaking just block, even amiya can tank but i recommend using shamare
shamare prevents anyone from dying
can you even block the boss when its flying
oh i thought last phase was the problem
yes last phase the boss is flying
no, only middle one, last form is ground again
anyways his fireballs are reaching my qiubai
try reed? she helps destroying them and healing allies
S3M1 Saria and Therm-Ex combo with Ceobe truly is the way, thank you again, @deft badger for the guide and advice
did it with typhoon s2, but ...
i dont have dps
for when he resurrects
i bring him down to 50% gp
hp
and he oneshots everything
and is still flying
and doesn't get blocked
i see he goes on the ground but he just flies again?
well there you can see amiya is blocking him
Yes but mine is flying
no, he’s fully melee
Get dunked by fireball
he still shits fireballs even after he resurrects?
that’s where shamare doll save you
you might need ng or shamare to survive
Entire gimmick of phase 2 is "I cast fireball in closed space in D&D" instead chains
thats him after i brought him down to 50% hp btw, he started flying and got full hp again
He is ground, he healed from killing his summons
i dont have neither of them
who are you borrowing?
suzuran
i see 
Nah no way
cant stop him from refilling hp in 2nd phase
and he s just gonna oneshot whatever i put to block him
you generally can't prevent the refill since that requires you to kill the two small dudes he summons at the start of phase 2
and yh after reaching 50% he becomes a ground enemy and will keep tossing aoe at you
plus the occasional 10k arts fireball
i just don't understand how this guy instantly deletes 2nd phase boss ho
hp
with not even the full qiubai skill
i timed 2nd phase vs full uptime qiubai reed Sara and suzuran, with the last 4 arrows of typhoon s3, and he s running away with 70% hp?
does pot6 make this massive difference?
res shred + arts amp + arts fragility + fragile
Of course i am using his same strat
with maxed ops
with typhoon on top of it
and texas s2
it just doesn't die
same strat
timing diff
that vid might've been half a second off everyone exploding
hard to say
what?
???
he took 100% of the damage he could have got
- typhoon s3
i mean, sometimes the stat diff changes when you kill
your strat isn't quite the same anw so i can't be more specific than that
oh yh qb got debuffed here
and typhoon to kill fireballs after 1st phase cuz my qiubai ain't pot6 and doesn't lock all the balls
Thats long after she finished her skill...
everyone died because i put hoshi to block him after i saw he s still with a ton of hp, and everyone blow up
put the fireball bait op far away
it has global range and nukes your squad for 10k
i dont have any fireball bait
they die after 1 fireball
so i can't block him
cause units have 5 hours redeploy
Fireball bait for phase 2?
and next fireball is gonna nuke hoshi + team
i mean you kinda can't block him unless you planned for someone to survive that fireball
Use a robot or sth if you have spare slot
if you can't kill him in time then the fireball bait is prio
Wlel i didnt because i expected him to die since i saw that strat of the boss getting erased
can you just send a recording so i don't have to guess why you died
anyways i "blocked" him but he killed hoshi in 2 hits so its useless either way
(i baited the first fireball, hoshi dead even before the next )
the aoe's aren't the fireball skill i mentioned btw
those are just his autos which also hurt quite a bit
(which are also extremely hard to tank)
So i can't block his second phase..
AH could do it if you have them
Pray Hoshi resists his attack
another option would be silence alter 
i doubt AH has 5000 healing per second
no but they have DR
https://youtu.be/Y3pDoI_LzmI?t=340
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quercus doing numbers though
DR, santuary and 10k hp
gaming
how easier a-2 is from a-3
a-3 has 35% more atk and def from a-2
all the enemies
wait actually im not sure abt the 2 trash mobs
but the a-3 elites and boss have 35% more atk and def from a-2
shouldve baited the atk with hoshi and pray for resist 
suzu and saria would ve blown up anyways
Yato s3 unable to do pixel dmg to a boss, whatever
QB buff army?
a-3 boss is simply too strong for me
my units are weak
they all die
even with buffs
most balanced arknights event:

Dalaobow
next time im gonna buy Suzuran from cert shop 💀💀💀
What did hoshi do? Tank early wave?
Tank 1st boss phase
not enough dp to replace saria again
Why not use a surtr or sth to do that
?
N the borrowed suzu won't have mastery
?
the only suzu i found
Unpopular opinion but blaze S1 is actually pretty good in IS openings
Floor 1 at least

I mean blaze s2 does nothing in short IS stages, if you re drafting blaze then yea
you can stop it from existing
have to kill it fast
do it with physical damage, they have low def
how do i kill it within 2 tiles
what unit has so much damage that its killed this fast
Can you just send us a clip of your playthrough to see what's wrong? We've been trying to help you for the last few days now, to no avail.
i did send 2 videos
Where?
bait the fireball away
the targeting is global
ah right you were using mlynar
half the deal is breaking the chains asap ngl
if you don't have a marksman then your ranged ops will target the chains instead of the fireball
which is fatal
How u deal with early weeb? Didn't u say keep dying?
Faces Spalter left to avoid debuffing boss because only noobs using mechanics which assist them 
honestly typhoon slows down the boss more than saria
she... slows exactly once though
When damaging an enemy for the first time while a skill is active, ATK increases to 170% (+10%) and Slows targets for 3 seconds
how come she slows every shot for me then?
maybe thats the stun
Stuns from S2/S3?
oh the boss is stun immune
and that's like the only other cc effect she has
heres another
https://streamable.com/wd9xtt
One advice for this though, you don't need to waste DP on Młynar every time he's chained, just wait until his skills is almost ready, then pop the chain and let him rip. I'll go watch the rest.
ah yh so that was when the boss threw the 10k arts fireball which burned all the ops nearby and then blew mlynar up
"Slows for 3 seconds on first time damaging with skill"
Or what is topic of clip right now?
Also if you deploy Hoshi on head of first guard then Mlynar be hitting him on S3
the topic is that they're dying to phase 3
typhon slowing the boss was a tangential comment
what is ng
Well for typhon slow topic in this clip she attacked boss only once
ng -> nitingale
bait the cages to a corner
bait the fireballs using cages to a corner
Yeah, I noticed that too, just deploying Hoshi a second later would have split box the Dublinn and let Młynar hit them.
they used both cages rip
i cannot english
using that for the first fireballs
bet
where do i even place the cages 3rd phase
top left
don't they hit operators that are in the way?
just place it where theres no ops nearby
bot right's gonna burn through all the ops
isnt top left not enough space
Bottom right is the farthest. Give you plenty of time to pop the balls.
i sent videos. don't you see my placement?
maweeen will die
i saw
thats why i was asking him
so wdym top left if i'm holding the line top left
Shouldn't be enough dmg to kill anyone if you have a bunch of Medics.
i only have nithingale and shining
That's plenty enough.
that why i was telling him that top left is not enough space #strategy message
the setup's pretty cursed tbh, by that point left side's gonna explode anw
he didnt kill the elite left side on wave 1 too
aint no way hoshi is tanking 2 of them
might be able to copy sarkaz hw if they kill that defender tbh
Pop one of their skill, and then cycle another after the previous one end to keep the pressure down if you're still having trouble.
how am i supposed to kill quite literally a 2nd boss
if you don't you'll die so like
you can't put that off
shining has shield for hoshi
A-3 spawns two more of those fucks on the last wave
Split box, deploy Hoshi when Defemder Dublinn entered her tile a teeny bit.
That'll let Młynar Młynar'ed the Dublinn.
keeping hoshi alive against three dudes with 2.7k phys is..... not doable
even with shining
i uh nuked them with ceobe lappland
One of them died to Młynar, no need or less need for Shining's Shield.
failed, mlynar died cause he got chained
well yh prevent that
i don't have 3/4th of meta units
i don't know how to prevent that
this was my clear 
told you
Your team is already full of meta. 
yeah our ops are too far apart
time the kill better so the boss doesn't phase when mlynar is chained
i don't have enforcer built, perfumer built, bison built, rosa built, pozemka built, and i don't have golden glow at all

that's more doable than [needs more meta ops]
my clear is kinda schizo anyway
and everyone still die and can't kill any enemies, crazy innit
I cleared the stage by timing everything in the milliseconds. Imagine staring at the screen for min and a half straight to eyeballs the boss's HP bar until its 10-25%~ left. 
And that's only P1.
the 2nd one is part of the 3rd one
least scizo clear
its not even fun atp, its just annoying and boring
repeating same shit over and over again
just to fail and fail at the same exact moment
does texas not 1cycle the chains
8k hp surprisingly
Is she even good for operations
8k hp
I wanted whisperain

couldnt find the stats on prts wiki
cexas basically does no phys damage to them i think
phys?
for me no
they leave the chains at low hp
if she's on S3
damn unfortuante
if it's S2 she deletes the chains
what are the defensive stats of the chains anyway
750 def
you tell me how to get rid of the left guy
You either give her everything she needs, lv, E2, mastery, mod, and all, or you don't.
tripled for the coffin iirc
eyja + monster should be able to handle that
So she is a decent unit to have?
then just stall the boss for a while ig
what about right guy
he's gonna come out soon
maween deals with right guy
Quercus worked, but God, does she needs a lot to be decent.
they have low def
right guy dies to just abt anything
low def low res
first time hearing of this "maween"
its fine
mlynar
Oh well to the deck she goes
he gets chained as he approaches him
what now then?
probs better to just use cexas S2
or maybe just use texalt s2
there's not much to use S3 for
ya was just gonna suggest that
She is okay-ish. Drawback is need to wait out for S1 to activate heal. Damage reduction only on high % hp operators.
S2 can be combined with Aak/Fiametta to activate their skills faster.
got rid of both, what now
nothing worked so far except this
asking step by step what to do
lmao

burst boss with surtr and typhon?
probably just stall the boss at hoshi tile
then slowly kill
release all ur burst at phase 2
how
hosh shining perma stalls
wdym "burst"
like eyja s3 sutur s3, typh s3, saria s3
Yea, damage reduction is not something you can just utilize from very early as you need both operator providing it and operator receiving it and justification of kind "Just leveling defender won't get this stall done" 
like unload all ur dmg
shouldn't i keep mlynar skill for fireballs?
killing p1 at hoshi will just blast your entire team
well yes mlynar isnt for the boss
yea exactly
yeah save mlynar skill
phase 2 fireball disables operator targeted by fireball
boss flies over hoshi = gg
yeah thats why u need to burst with eyja typh
how
then sutur once the boss lands
Time to grind back what I wasted😀
everyone gonna get chained
you want me to kill his flying phase?
Thanks
mlynar breaks free
what
i'm so confused
mlynar should be able to break the chains tho no?
of others yes, of himself no
yes
you sure he's not in range?
shouldn't i replace eyja then if you want me to hold boss at hoshi tile?
wasn't like 1.7 tile or smth
yeah u can reposition eyja
hoshi + shining should be able to permastall phase 1
will hoshi be able to tank the boss 1st phase?
with shining and ng as medics yes
what about that one dude that leaves from the red zone where boss came from
if u kill the boss flying phase
that guy gets absorbed by the boss
then the boss becomes ground
most strats ignore that guy
doesn't he go to the right zone?
you want to burst p2 anw, the guy won't even leave the bot right corner
so what should be the placement here
eyja beside hoshi
typh on top right of ng facing down
facing up? down?
facing down
behind red zone or to the right of it
ya
looks fine to me
now start suturing the boss ig
hm actually maybe setup skalter first?
where
left side below lava tile
behind or on top of hoshi
can she sustain the lava dmg?
no lol
on top
rough
in front of her right? not in front of mlynar
ya
when the boss dies
and does the chains atk
retreat sutur
so she ends up as a tomb
then mlynar kills the tomb so u can redeploy sutur
looks good ya
she can't tank him
her s3 is helidropable anyway so dont need to prepare
also get a cage out
well ya sutur should be tanking
do i kill 1st phase with eyja + surtr or keep eyja for flying phase
how do i kill the boss now
as dumb as it sounds, she's not m3
i can place skalter between nithingale and typhoon so she boosts surtr
hm sure
nvm i can't
mlynar gets chained and i have no way of destroying the chains
i need to have 1 deployment slot
to destroy chains with yato and texas
what do i do once the boss dies
now i'm sure surtr can kill it
by herself
i have texas s3
no one told me that
to use her s2
er
instead
take s2
too late, i'm mid fight
so what now
.
is yato with s3 or s2?
s2
you can just drop yato and quickly swap after her s2 is done then
cant u just uh deploy yato then retreat then tex
yea thats what i've been doing to destroy the chains
takes too long probs
if you're doing it the moment he chains
in terms of one chains yes
the chain is uh
in terms of multiple, no
30 s cooldown
he only does 1 chain atk tho?
the phase change chain atk should be dealt by mlynar
i remember earlier, the boss going 2nd phase, chained 2 units
oh thought this was abt the phase transition chains
he only does 1 chain atk
if u dont break the chains
he chains everyone in a 1.7 tile radius the moment he phases
then he targets a 2nd one
i did break the chains tho
and when entering the 2nd phase
he chained eyja and surtr for example
oh when entering phase 2
or eyja and mlynar
he chains everything nearby him
yea exactly
he is
and in range of ur other ops
i'm sure
so he can break the chains
ya that looks fine
it's not just 2
huh its not affected by taunt
surtr was placed last so surtr most likely
he'll chain everyone
he wont chain mlynar
if there's 8 ops, he'll chain all 8
the phase transition chain is aoe
theres 4
he will chain literally everyone near him
just activate mlynar skill to break the chains
i mean i said it like 3 times
same
he can only destroy 3
eyja still chained
if he goes 2nd phase
typhon can deal with that tbh
so do i kill the boss now?
the phase transition should be long enough for typhon to break eyja's chains
surtr could kill him without a skill rn lol
yeah go kill


