strategy

[deft badger]

its just put everything on spawn points

[smoky halo]

after u get ur dps

[deft badger]

and press skills till end

[trim flare]

I've tried using her as a sterter but its awful : P

[trim flare]

I see, thank you

[smoky halo]

she sucks as a starter

[astral cosmos]

hopefully levels and masteries don't matter...right?

right?

[smoky halo]

same with mlynar he sucks as a starter

[deft badger]

at his clear i don't think so

[astral cosmos]

mlynar start is wild

[trim flare]

Someone told in help a while ago Ines was amazing as a starter, so I treated their words as gospel

[deft badger]

most of the ops he used is just hold till chalter and mlynar can go brttt

[smoky halo]

she is amazing the same way mlynar is amazing just not as a starter

[neat skiff]

What vaguely derogatory term should I address you with? Like a sarcastic gurl/boi?

You have Eyjaberry S1 + skalter.

[astral cosmos]

just call me an idiot, it works

[neat skiff]

And a maxed out Quercus.

[astral cosmos]

yeah, they couldn't sustain blaze
then again that wasn't a viable strat because of my levels

[neat skiff]

Get Hoshi to SL7.

[astral cosmos]

no

im too poor

[neat skiff]

Suffer in mediocrity.

Blaze is not a staller.

You have a maxed out Bison (peak based), as well as Hoshi and Saria.

[astral cosmos]

sighhhhhh I'll pass
I'm already farming rocks for coldshot e2
no thanks

[neat skiff]

A) Valid.
B) Unfathomably based.

[deft badger]

maybe u should even skip on mlynar not sure and borrow kal

for top

[astral cosmos]

thing is, I don't really know how to start if I'm using mlynar
mountain was incredibly useful because he could hold off the sarkaz by himself

but without him...

[deft badger]

u have SA

for drones

[neat skiff]

So, may I ask why you're worrying about the boss stage?

[astral cosmos]

drones are fine

i think...

[deft badger]

mlynar does them thats what i mention drones

and kills boss

[neat skiff]

You have raised a lot of ops because you like them.

[deft badger]

but u can skip on mlynar borrow kal top top, use chalter surtr and sa

to kill boss then

texas for 🎈

sa for 2nd wave

3rd wave texas again

[smoky halo]

texas kills the drones?

[deft badger]

let chalter deal with boss and surtr

[neat skiff]

S3 might.

[deft badger]

yes she does and they lose hp anyway

[smoky halo]

they seem pretty tanky so was wondering

[deft badger]

the cc is important 😄

[astral cosmos]

I just need to see how I can start
just mlynar right as the stage starts and immediate skill ig

[deft badger]

well myrtle

and u have to destroy one of the boxes

[neat skiff]

So. I would like to point out that to unlock chatper 13 you only need to beat the boss on story mode. Not normal or hard.

[smoky halo]

u wanna beat norm for the rewards anyway

[deft badger]

place saria, right side, sucks that ur ines is e0

[smoky halo]

but ya story is ok

[deft badger]

but u have bag

[smoky halo]

hes doing H stage meaning adverse is done

[deft badger]

go in with bag and myrtle

[astral cosmos]

doubt bag can do much

[deft badger]

she does the same thing my ines does in my clear

and hits even harder

[astral cosmos]

so s3

[pseudo cargo]

it worked thank god

[deft badger]

yes

[astral cosmos]

I just hope she can charge her skill in time

[astral cosmos]

nice, gg

[deft badger]

she has enough of time i mean if u want watch my clear

replace gladiia with saria, spalter with kal

[astral cosmos]

I mean mine is modless sl7
so hopefully that works too

[deft badger]

then u have to figure out the rest on the right side on ur own u will need one more dd there

and u don't have to stall

just chalter the hell out of the boss with surtr and sa

use NG doll when last clone spawns

so that non of ur ops dies to that proc atk

[smoky halo]

who is modless?

[deft badger]

bag

i guess

[smoky halo]

[neat skiff]

Do you want to see if maxed out Ling plus your E2L60 Skalter works?

[deft badger]

doesn't even matter she there to generate and they are not like tanky

the guys who spawn on the start

[neat skiff]

12-20?

[astral cosmos]

h12-4

[smoky halo]

isnt ling open in h12 4 pot gated

or am i misremembering

[neat skiff]

I didn't scroll far enough. My bad.

Yeah good luck. Y'all gon need it.

[deft badger]

[smoky halo]

h12-4 is one of the stages of all time

[astral cosmos]

lmao not enough dp for saria

pain

I'll just use hung ez

[smoky halo]

so true

[deft badger]

just start myrtle bag

[neat skiff]

I love that you raised and mastered ops you want instead of the meta ops.

[deft badger]

and destroy one of the boxes

u have enough

[smoky halo]

read his username kek

[neat skiff]

But H12-4?

[astral cosmos]

yeah I do myrtle bag
it's just that
21 dp saria

too wary of deploying texas on box eh, i'll just use hung

[deft badger]

not one of the boxes the box to the right side 😄

[neat skiff]

I play on iOS. I cannot help in any way other than, you go idiot (affectionate).

[smoky halo]

i would personallu just permastall phase 2

since it seemed like u didnt havw enough dps to burst

tho rotating tanks is quite dp expensive

[astral cosmos]

lmao bag is so sad

[neat skiff]

Even welfare knights is like

[astral cosmos]

eh well i need to deploy sa early

[smoky halo]

surprised bison isnt used

ig it kinda sucks when corrosion is perma def reduc

[neat skiff]

Because not even a maxed out eyjaberry can outheal the elemental damage from H12-4.

[smoky halo]

i heard it can but its potgated and u need mul

[deft badger]

no, u have to deploy him after that guy spawns u have to block left side... 2nd one

when he dies u place sa on drone spawn

use doll to let little drones hit it

sa does brt brt drones down u recall him

bag should be able to handle right side

[astral cosmos]

I'm still lingering on the start
maybe i could use surtr to start instead

[deft badger]

but yes u need one more dd there

[astral cosmos]

dd?

[deft badger]

do u have chong

[astral cosmos]

e0

[deft badger]

bruhh.. xD

[smoky halo]

based

[neat skiff]

Positive note. Depending on who you ask Hoederer is a bad operator and he doesn't give a shit about corrosion.

[astral cosmos]

welcome to my roster

[neat skiff]

0 - 100 = 0.

[smoky halo]

he isnt bad tho

[deft badger]

then use thorns... xD

[neat skiff]

Depending on who you ask

[smoky halo]

[astral cosmos]

thorns can't start...

by the time he charges up the main issue is gone lmao

[smoky halo]

thongs bad op frfr

[neat skiff]

Hoed is an E2L90 S1M3 S2M3 for me. for other people apparently Degenbrecher is the second coming of whatever diety you believe in.

[smoky halo]

huh isnt s3 his best skill?

[deft badger]

myrtle bag, destroy box with something - use gravel

[smoky halo]

or am i misremembering

[deft badger]

place saria

use bag skill place thorns, dorp texas

then u have to close top with kal

and u do have enough

[neat skiff]

Best dps skill. For me personally I can't find a reason to bring his S3 into my very well built squad. His S1 yes, his S2 less than S1 but I'll still use it.

[deft badger]

i am eating btw let me finish it i will test it but i am sure u have enough

[smoky halo]

[neat skiff]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/khold90

"Oh wow, you have thousands of physical damage and a piddly little true damage DoT. Let me look at what else I have."

[astral cosmos]

lmfao thorns doesn't do shit

[neat skiff]

Of course not.

[deft badger]

thorns does enough xD

[astral cosmos]

he can't charge in time
sarkaz are already leaking

[deft badger]

u have to drop 2 times texas there

[smoky halo]

yo fellow m6 enforcer user

[deft badger]

till he did charge up

[neat skiff]

It's chapter 12. they are peak "mixed damage is ass and we spam enemies".

[neat skiff]

After Hoed and before Shu I'm raising flags and maleknights.

[smoky halo]

m6 ur ely

[neat skiff]

I literally am.

M5 right now, M6 cooking.

[smoky halo]

ah

peak performance e2 lv1 m6

[neat skiff]

Quite literally.

[smoky halo]

[astral cosmos]

hm texas s3 doesn't look like she does anything to the drones

[neat skiff]

Because it's Yato alter S3 that deals with drones.

Texalter can, Yatoalter does.

Or Virtuosa that people seem to have an issue with for some reason.

[cosmic thicket]

what's happening

[deft badger]

which drones are u atk with her_

its just to stall and for 🎈

[neat skiff]

Those big tall things.

[deft badger]

u do the big one with sa

[astral cosmos]

her blades on deploy proc before the small ones can hit?

[neat skiff]

That spawn the spinny hurt balls.

[deft badger]

let me upload the video btw, i did try it with bag as well it works but u have to bring something to destroy that stupid box

[neat skiff]

Most clears use a E2L60 or above Mlynar to deal with them.

[cosmic thicket]

SA works fine for one yeah

can handle both if they're in range but when i did it he only handled top, mlynar killed bottom

[neat skiff]

2 spawn. At the same time.

[deft badger]

and place that doll when u place sa when they spawn

drop it to the right somewhere

i would bring gravel btw if she is e2

to do box and stall the dude u have to block

black guy don't know the name of the op

but if u don't block him u leak civs

[astral cosmos]

she's e1

[deft badger]

or how they are called

[astral cosmos]

but she manages to clear the box just in time

[cosmic thicket]

wait what's ur squad

[deft badger]

box has to die faster

[neat skiff]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/ReChord

[deft badger]

did try e1 gravel takes her way to long lol

[astral cosmos]

I deploy her immediately as the stage starts

manage to put saria just in time

[deft badger]

btw don't s- on me for not using bag i don't own her or kal i just wanted to know if i can place kal in time and yes i can

but at least u can see my opener

i mean u can even put ur team somewhere lower mine camps at the blue box

[cosmic thicket]

this is what i used for H12-4 but could cut out shamare, texalter, and castle (and swap myrtle for ely)

[deft badger]

was just to test, place saria, thorns, kal in time...
https://youtu.be/WlH9aMmkOEQ?si=ie-tBopQEbxkn-mO

[neat skiff]

Bag right now is basically "have her in your squad for her talent, unless you have her max module at which point you can deploy her for like 2-5 S3 autos before retreating or she dies".

[astral cosmos]

yeah, only issue being that I can't have both kal and mly

[deft badger]

ignore other ops i am to lazy to move them... xD

[neat skiff]

The fight is just rough.

[cosmic thicket]

hmmm

[deft badger]

and ines is ur bag...

i did test it with sl7 bag as well u make enough dp

to place kal in time

but i don't know how u are going to do the box fast enough

[cosmic thicket]

how did u handle top lane

or is that what ur struggling with

[neat skiff]

Kal + sacrificial ops that can survive with only E2L60 S3M3 Lumen.

[cosmic thicket]

im asking rechord

[neat skiff]

As well as some "well top lane went to shit, but bottom lane had enough dps to kill the sentient slime so I'm gucci".

[astral cosmos]

im just handling it with kal rn

[crisp bolt]

with lumen?

[deft badger]

borrow kal not mlynar

[cosmic thicket]

ic

[astral cosmos]

lemme try that

[crisp bolt]

I could handle top lane with just kal and sacrificial op

[deft badger]

kal for top

[crisp bolt]

no other healer needed

[deft badger]

sa can take mlynar spot

[neat skiff]

Do you have a maxed out Kal to borrow?

[deft badger]

use chalter for boss and surtr

[astral cosmos]

figured
hopefully he does enough damage

[cosmic thicket]

for the record pozy can open

[astral cosmos]

ye dw

[astral cosmos]

modless?

[cosmic thicket]

idk let me see

[deft badger]

for drones he does, just place him the moment i did mine and use NG doll

my mlynar dies there 😄

i am not sure if u should run only ng without eyja2

since i did run only ng

in my first clear and lumen who was doing mostly nothing

[cosmic thicket]

this good enough?

went ely -> pozy

[deft badger]

my stupid lumen was healing gladiia and spalter xD

[neat skiff]

Uhh...

Only Spalter and Gladiia are in his range.

[deft badger]

that was the point of it anyway others survive with just ng but spalter was needing heals so yeah 😄

[glass monolith]

[deft badger]

that was my solution let him face blue box hahaha

[neat skiff]

Just spalter needing heals face him left.

Mlynar and Nightingale will already handle some of the healing.

[cosmic thicket]

with just pozy

mine is level 90 but idt it matters

[astral cosmos]

wait where is ng cage supposed to be

[deft badger]

i did work in the end

but w8 till u see this...

[neat skiff]

No, wait til you see H13-4.

[cosmic thicket]

allegedly it's easier idk

[astral cosmos]

cuz uhhhhhh ng cage behind sa doesn't prevent him from getting ohko
top maybe?

[neat skiff]

All the videos I've seen make it seem that way.

[cosmic thicket]

record is also 2 ops instead of 3

[deft badger]

i did place it top to the right of him

[astral cosmos]

hm

[deft badger]

but 3 drones still hit him

[astral cosmos]

lemme try...

[deft badger]

and 3 go on the cage

[neat skiff]

H13-4 is like "remember Puzzle? His S2 is way more helpful than you think".

[astral cosmos]

he's dying so hard lmao

[deft badger]

ofc he is when 6 drones hit him in to the face lol

[neat skiff]

H12-4 is "hope you have like 22 block for 4 lanes".

[astral cosmos]

I guess I should wait until the drones hit before activating skill
but will he make it in time

[glass monolith]

It is 3 lanes if you don't greed eating that one DP cap increase box

[deft badger]

i was asking couple min ago how ep13 boss looks like i just got a i don't know...

minus in to what did naga change his name_

i wanna see his camp the spawn setup

[glass monolith]

How the fuck i suppose to know and who are you anyway?

[deft badger]

bruh lol

hhaahhaa

[neat skiff]

Read the blue name. That is who we're like "well yes having a tooth pulled will be less painful, but we're trying to keep positive for a painful stage".

[deft badger]

really? xD

[glass monolith]

Okay i clicked your name so i know you are Unknown, but still it is your issue guys that you have creativity to make new server names

[deft badger]

10 days later dude asking me who are u

i was bored...

[neat skiff]

You should at least have vaguely unpleasant memories of me.

[deft badger]

i know naga changed his in to something new

-.-

cant find him

[glass monolith]

I recall when i joined this server and there was like 4 people named Surtr with different Surtr pfp

[deft badger]

hahhaha

[neat skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/leslie-jordan-leslie-belly-dancing-belly-dance-dancing-gif-2633688578400556476

But yeah. Puzzle S2. 16 second DoT = CH13 mechanic is less painful.

[glass monolith]

Imagine payload just leaves his range while you charging S2

[deft badger]

i kinda don't wanna scroll back when dos started since that was the last time he wrote something

april 1st

[glass monolith]

If he pinged you you always can try "mentions: yourname" bullshit search

before:/after: to pin date

[neat skiff]

Zero issues there. The stupid vase is actually a sieve the way it loses charge and decides to stop moving.

[deft badger]

he didn't

[astral cosmos]

even with the cage on top right sa still dies

[deft badger]

place him one tile in the back

and place cage infront of him

[neat skiff]

Y'all remember when H9-4 was the worst thing ever?

[astral cosmos]

thought of this

[remote perch]

Good times

[cosmic thicket]

H9-4??

[astral cosmos]

looks like it's the only way

[remote perch]

Mandroga

[glass monolith]

She is h9-6

[cosmic thicket]

you're thinking of H9-6

[remote perch]

Oh right

Wait

What does 4 do

[neat skiff]

Right, H9-6 because consistency is not Hg strong suit.

[glass monolith]

Switch to grenade in Counter Strike

[cosmic thicket]

H9-4 is some random stage with jetpacks and tombkeepers

[remote perch]

Ooo i remember now

[neat skiff]

H9-6 = hope you like tanks with hybrid defenses. H10-3 cannon time bitches.

[cosmic thicket]

I still feel like H9-6 is the hardest H stage before chapter 12

either that or H8-4

[neat skiff]

Agreed.

[glass monolith]

H9-6 has like worst stage opening in AK stages
OUTSIDE OF THAT ONE SN-S STAGE

[neat skiff]

New CC2?

[remote perch]

Dunno
I still fuckin hate that h10-1

[cosmic thicket]

oh H10-1 is top 3 fs

[glass monolith]

Did you knew H10-2 has blind spots because boss have no range? I didn't

[neat skiff]

We play on global, of course we did.

[lapis hornet]

h10-1 was the hardest h stage for me since like idk

think it was tougher than h6-4 or h8-4 lol

[glass monolith]

How about uh... h11-1

Or was it h12-1. Which is chain caster hell?

[cosmic thicket]

H11-1

[neat skiff]

12

Wait no it was 11.

My bad.

[glass monolith]

Which fucking chapter are chain casters i don't remember either

[cosmic thicket]

H11 stages don't feel like actual H stages lmao

[astral cosmos]

nope my SA doesn't kill
lemme see if I can use April shenanigans to finish them off since I opened with her

[neat skiff]

Chain casters on defeat spawn blood suckers that increase block.

[lapis hornet]

i have no recollection of h11-1 lmao I had to look it up on yt

[astral cosmos]

nah I can't

[cosmic thicket]

enemy spam

[neat skiff]

Mood.

[astral cosmos]

[lapis hornet]

think I just bruteforced with rarity abuse

[glass monolith]

I did bullshit abuse on H11-2/4

[turbid badge]

oh the one with 3 lanes?

[cosmic thicket]

H11-4 was like "do you have an infinite stall"

[glass monolith]

Dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog

[remote perch]

2
Bottom and top, cuz u can just pillar the 3rd lane to make it 2

[neat skiff]

Thanks to Lumen and Quercus, yes.

[turbid badge]

huh

[glass monolith]

He pings my message where i refer to SN-S-4

[turbid badge]

For that map originally i used fucking Eunectus and blemishine to hold a lane

[neat skiff]

Well, Lumen, Quercus and a borrowed max Skadi.

[astral cosmos]

well fuck that h12-4 strat didn't work
idek anymore

[remote perch]

Oh lol

[turbid badge]

h11-1 i AH abuse

normally you would Use ur burst

Like artillery snipers

[neat skiff]

It's pain, even with 10 6 stars.

[remote perch]

Give up

[turbid badge]

spreadhsppters at the front

[astral cosmos]

i NEED that last Morgan pot

[turbid badge]

whats morgan Total dps

During skill

[neat skiff]

So, you can keep your niche of "badknights" but for highest of the hell stages raise some meta ops.

[deft badger]

found it now have his brain to understand the hell he did here 😄

[astral cosmos]

I just hope yato isn't core

[deft badger]

nah sa and chalter are

[astral cosmos]

(and since my SA can't kill...)

[glass monolith]

Or just have flat brain surface and entire AH squad #strategy message

[deft badger]

i guess he started by destroying boxes

[astral cosmos]

I already have a flat brain
just not the ops

[glass monolith]

Feesl bad. You can always return to this shit later

[astral cosmos]

my roster won't improve by then

[glass monolith]

I ignored some of H stages for over year before doing them

[deft badger]

has ops but didn't e2 them

do u have mlynar btw_

[astral cosmos]

nah

[deft badger]

i hope u don't say yes but e0 xD

[astral cosmos]

but if I get him i'll s1m3 him

[glass monolith]

If you exist, you improve roster... Unless you 1-7 grind boy who trades for orundum

[astral cosmos]

I don't improve roster

I build ops that add nothing to it

[deft badger]

ah yes degen... 😂

[turbid badge]

I saw on saltmiesp

[astral cosmos]

if I get degen
she'll join the rejects gang

unless she has a skill that's not worth m3ing?

degen s3 this s3 that
but wb the other skills 🤔

[deft badger]

degen skill needs reapers(OW) ulty voice line

[cosmic thicket]

why is lin in rejects

[deft badger]

and she would be perfect, fits her...

[cosmic thicket]

she's so fun to use

[astral cosmos]

rejects are just 6* i won't raise cuz too poor

[neat skiff]

Lin needs T3 module.

No module = garbage.

[astral cosmos]

I only raise 6* on very special occasions (once every few months )
last one I built was eyjaberry cuz simp
before that, texalter (because i was struggling in is3)
and before texas...last one i'd raised was fia

[deft badger]

how can u reject degen

https://tenor.com/view/die-reaper-spinning-rotate-overwatch-gif-17444526

[astral cosmos]

i'll prolly skip her

[neat skiff]

Easy.

[astral cosmos]

just how i skipped yato

[neat skiff]

She is an upgraded Irene. When was the last time you used Irene?

[deft badger]

never?

did try her actually one time and she did die in like 2 hits

[cosmic thicket]

im skipping degen bc i hate her

[deft badger]

gave up on that op to squishy

[neat skiff]

An upgrade that is marginally better than an op I already don't use?

"God tier, must pull" apparently.

[deft badger]

yeah but degen is like 5x irene 😄

[astral cosmos]

but my being poor doesn't mean i hate them...some of em i actually kinda wanna raise
if i could raise one 6* in here it'd be Eunectes or Ho'ol

[cosmic thicket]

fuck HG for making her s3 auto recovery btw

[neat skiff]

Ho'ol is another T3 module operator.

[astral cosmos]

it's fine

[cosmic thicket]

??

[neat skiff]

Specifically the module that just released in CN so we will get it in 7 months.

[cosmic thicket]

it's too early to say how good the mod is lol

[astral cosmos]

she'll initiate my Blepknights niche I wanted to build

👍

[cosmic thicket]

or what stage is needed

[neat skiff]

It's better than her current module by a pretty wide margin.

[astral cosmos]

ughhh i still wanna build Qknights and Blepknights
but Qiubai and Ho'ol are so expensive ehhhhhh

[cosmic thicket]

it's obviously better but jury's still out on whether it's "get T3 because it's actually really good"

[neat skiff]

"Well, the new module leans into her being a utility caster so it's something for the top tier design".

She is still waifu only, but it's something?

[astral cosmos]

or Blepknights!

:D

[cosmic thicket]

tf is blepknights

[astral cosmos]

operators who blep

literally just this

[neat skiff]

Do you see the operators tongue?

Blepknights.

[cosmic thicket]

what ok

[astral cosmos]

i so so wanna build this someday

[neat skiff]

Ho'ol is peak waifu reasons.

Hence why she is currently number 7 in line to be raised. Specifically for her S2.

[deft badger]

bruh why is that wind e2l80 lol

[astral cosmos]

[neat skiff]

Are you a not straight male or female?

[cosmic thicket]

windflit is gaming

[deft badger]

i don't get it... xD

what's that question about

[neat skiff]

Windflit is about as good as us maleknights enjoyers have gotten in a while, aesthetics wise.

[astral cosmos]

aesthetics wise

[deft badger]

hahahaha

[neat skiff]

Laugh all the way to realising we have no 6 star snipers or defenders.

[deft badger]

every tier list i saw, ranks him and vigil in the same rank so i just trust on that since he sitting next to vigil

[astral cosmos]

tbf I have him on s2 permanently on support cuz some guy was desperately searching for a maxed mod3 s2m3 windflit for oneshot comps

[neat skiff]

Before Lumen the exclusive medic we had was Ansel.

[deft badger]

well i ain't playing for that long

[neat skiff]

Then Harold comes along as premium phalanx caster who dealt with cold/freeze and instead he becomes a welfare Mulberry?

[astral cosmos]

wellllll anyway...i guess i'll put h12-4 on hold for now

I'm likely to build hoe so maybe i can come back to it later

[deft badger]

when i joined got surtr eyja thorns mud spalter gnosis in the first week so... yeah i am not familiar with struggles of the past

[neat skiff]

Take some advice from nicheknights players. Some stages either require literal 3 digit hours to work or "just use some meta ops and pretend the stage doesn't exist after the clear".

[astral cosmos]

struggles of the past are my burden
ran on 153 during my entire first year cuz i didn't know u could swap facilities

[deft badger]

i think u don't wanna see my base

[astral cosmos]

i have lv3 office

[deft badger]

those struggles are still my present

[neat skiff]

Meanwhile I'm here like "I have a 243 because my base being maxed out is more important to me than peak efficiency".

[astral cosmos]

urgh well

i'll go attempt another tomimi is3 solo

[astral cosmos]

hopefully the game doesn't fucking crash on highmore again

[deft badger]

my base didn't get better since then

[deft badger]

and i still ignore all suggestions to build base slaves

[astral cosmos]

same

i almost have no base slaves

[neat skiff]

Best bit, I've organised it so 1 floor is LMD and 1 floor is EXP.

Zero thinking.

[astral cosmos]

anyway back to tomimi is3 solo
hopefully it goes well

[neat skiff]

Enjoy your suffering ❤️

[astral cosmos]

it didn't last long

sniper squad 1st stage

[neat skiff]

\o/

[turbid badge]

why tomimi

shes not really good in any maps

I liked her in is2

[astral cosmos]

it's a tomimi solo
because I alr did frostleaf solo and wanna extend it to another funny op

tomimi makes it harder than fl tho for a variety of reasons
stars gotta align better

still tho

[glass monolith]

"Shhhh-, Pompei don't like Gavial"

[neat skiff]

Welcome to Tomimi.

"Wait, wtf she can do that?" combined with "please do that awesome thing I saw that one time".

[astral cosmos]

"please do something"

[waxen swan]

"Just look pretty in the corner"

[empty hawk]

s2 is so much easier than s3.. the difficulty spike is crazy. guess im not clearing s3 no more

[vernal lion]

it's just "some weird shit worked" thingy

[smoky laurel]

gotta love how a3 is even more balanced with 3 bosses

can't kill anything in time

[smoky halo]

huh?

theres only 1 boss

[smoky laurel]

how come the other 2 guys have more hp than terraria bosses then

the left one isn't bothered by anything i throw at him, the left one i have no damage for cause boss binds everyone and main boss is even more careless about things i use

[turbid badge]

utilize reed alter s2, ceobe, mlynar

if your new utilize buffs

and please bring slower/decel binder for boss

[smoky halo]

left side has high def and res

but u can silence their res

i used ceobe + lapp to nuke it

yeah they have decently high hp like uh 90k

[turbid badge]

mhm

[smoky laurel]

i don't have reed and ceboe is chillin at e1 80

just managed to defeat first phase

everyone died right after

[turbid badge]

the stage honestly isn't that bad

show your roster

[smoky laurel]

and good to knw 2nd phase is flying lol

[turbid badge]

mhm

[smoky laurel]

balanced as always

[turbid badge]

utilize slows or kill phase 1 earlier so he stands at the checkmark at the top and u have time to chip him when hes there for like 20 seconds

[smoky laurel]

@turbid badge

squad is different

[turbid badge]

oh nice roster

should be doable for sure

[smoky halo]

are you just aiming for the cardi skin?

[turbid badge]

alright ill bring along exusiai for phase 2 fireballs

[smoky laurel]

then tell me how cause so far everything i tried failed

[smoky halo]

or are you aiming for the medal?

[smoky laurel]

i guess

[smoky laurel]

no idc bout medals

[smoky halo]

just do A-2 since its WAAAY easier than a-3

[smoky laurel]

i wanna be the guy tho

at least a-3 completed

[smoky halo]

ah

[smoky laurel]

doubt i'll bother with the next one

[smoky halo]

S-3 is

[smoky laurel]

S is the last one right

[smoky halo]

yup

i gave up on s-3 too

[smoky laurel]

yea, not gonna bother with it either

[turbid badge]

mlynar,
lumen, kaltits,
( monster is effective for right side arts blade guy , or just to chip the left guy aswell )
bring two vanguards at the start
ely & sail are nice too bring
borrow a cobe mod 3 V
bring eyja texas & surtr
hoshi to tank i guess is fine too

USE SARIA S3
you can also use lappy for left guy silence

for phase 2 instantly deploy exu , but a little far so she doesnt get spawncamped by fireball

[smoky laurel]

i remember the easy days

place surtr with skadi and gg

[turbid badge]

oh you have Gg?

even better

[smoky laurel]

no

[turbid badge]

oh

[smoky laurel]

gg i meant good game

lol

[turbid badge]

yeah i realized

[cosmic thicket]

S-2 is much easier

[smoky laurel]

that the boss was straight up smoked

[cosmic thicket]

i think i spent like 50+ attempts on S-3 with no success, S-2 with the same strategy i literally got 2nd try

[turbid badge]

i Had placed exusiai behind gg during Phase w

two

deals with all the fireballs

in s3

[smoky laurel]

i don't have suzuran and the other vanguard

oh and bagpipe

no can do

[turbid badge]

Yeah i know im just Showing placements

Exusiai steamrolls phase 2

You will need some more dps than just meeween so ill reccomend borrowing ceobe or Suzuran

[smoky halo]

i cant beat s-2 too

i kinda lack dps

no mlynar reed ceobe
no debuffers like suzu

[smoky laurel]

can i see full squad

[smoky halo]

or sarai

[cosmic thicket]

what do u have in ur acc again

oh

[turbid badge]

for whom?

[cosmic thicket]

what do u have then

[smoky laurel]

from you, one you just used

[smoky halo]

its not looking too good

[turbid badge]

you wanna use buffs or nah

[cosmic thicket]

with all due respect how the fuck did u beat a-3

[turbid badge]

i think you can do without buffs

[smoky halo]

https://streamable.com/5i8qav

my winning attempt was just setting up the shift stall top properly

[smoky laurel]

also i'm pretty sure thats eyja alt

[cosmic thicket]

oh top lane shift stall

[smoky laurel]

which i don't have either

might be wrong

[cosmic thicket]

is the shift stall hard to pull off?

[turbid badge]

you don't need carbon copy you have meeween and surtr

ill show u how easy it is' Brb

ew

none my friends have mwynee

support

i hav to use defectuve

[smoky halo]

once u proeprly align the two enemies it should be fine

this is the first time at attempting shift stalling so it took me quite a few attempts

[turbid badge]

hmm

start could be rough

flags not me

m3

[smoky laurel]

wdym flags

[turbid badge]

flagbearer

[smoky laurel]

none of those are m3 for me

no vanguard has any mastery

and saileach is e1 80

so i really don't know what i do here

went with myrtle cause shes cheaper ig

and brings dp faster a little?

[turbid badge]

yes good call

yatos not gonna do much here honestly

[smoky laurel]

she helps with binds

for me at least

she's an emergency card for me usually

so is texas alt

i can swap her for lappy though

for the left guy

[turbid badge]

alright

[smoky laurel]

or something

[smoky laurel]

which phase is which tho, i can't tell

which image is 1st phase and which is 2nd

wait how do you kill 2nd phase if it flies over everything

[turbid badge]

saria s3

[smoky laurel]

and which unit do i use for that

ceobe? eyja?

[turbid badge]

both

[smoky laurel]

alright

imma hold top left then and see how it goes

what skill for kal tsit

[turbid badge]

s2 s3 fine

chains always on mlynar

aw fuck

how much dp is lumen

[smoky halo]

20

at max pot

[smoky laurel]

monster died

[turbid badge]

yeah ima use silence

[smoky halo]

why s2 kal wouldnt s3 be better for increased def and true dmg

[smoky laurel]

didn't even scratch the mf

[smoky halo]

left side has 2k def

[smoky laurel]

hoshi worked better against him with shining

[smoky halo]

well yeah he has 2.7k dph

hoshi would tank better than monster

[turbid badge]

you can obv Time better but yea

utilized ceobe and saria skill

and solence drone

plume to bait first chain

fang -> myrtle -> silence -> cobe -> saria than u can meeween for the right guy

i don;'t think hoshi's needed with 3 medics

saria tanks fine

yea

tanks fine

now i stall

[smoky laurel]

good to know mlynars taunt doesn't work on the boss

[turbid badge]

it does

[smoky laurel]

how come he still binded eyja and surtr

then

nvm, i just remembered he was still binded

thats probably why

[turbid badge]

Yea

u need to pre deploy exu

because of that

holy crap surtrs cracked

silence too

[smoky laurel]

what skill

do i use

[turbid badge]

s3 ofc

[void terrace]

Damn I just realised how ridiculously high gladiias base atk is. It's 200 higher than thorns

Her module gives plus 70 atk

[split umbra]

God I hope this is the right channel for this question

I'm planning on preparing to run "Suiknights" when Shu rolls up
What skill should I run for each of them? I'm especially uncertain when it comes to Ling and her skill options

[void terrace]

Oh it's 130 higher than thorns at level 80, then plus 70 from the module

[void terrace]

Chong is S3, dusk is S1 for being eyja knock off or S3 for wave holding, nian is just S2 for being a brick. Shu is S3 for heals. Ling is just S3 for the dragons

[split umbra]

Thanks very much
So S3 across the board except for Nian (S2) and Dusk (situational)?

[void terrace]

Pretty much

[split umbra]

Again, thanks

[smoky laurel]

everyone keep on dying

guess i'm gonna spam this squad until something changes

[void terrace]

What is the point of mudrock in T -5 trauma intervention

[turbid badge]

i have a video

[void terrace]

She doesn't even do anything before the stage times out

[turbid badge]

for the start

im compressing

[void terrace]

You need more flowers honestly

[turbid badge]

this boss is just nuke tf out of

[void terrace]

That's all this tram is missing

It should be good enough

[turbid badge]

hoshi becomes redudant with 3 healers

https://streamable.com/7uze0s

i tried to stimulate

sl7 myrtle

😂

[smoky laurel]

i'm sorry but there's no space for a 3rd one

i need texas alt and yato alt to destroy chains from mlynar

[turbid badge]

ceobe can do it herself lol

[smoky laurel]

so you want me to yeet eyja out

[turbid badge]

watch the vdeo

get inspired idk

my ceob omly mod 2

sl7 mlynar

[smoky laurel]

since when does mlynars skill matter if he's there just to be a shield

[turbid badge]

huh

he does damag

[smoky laurel]

well thats how i used him at least

[turbid badge]

than u cook the last phases with everybody else

i'll head out now hopefully you can clear it, if not try using buffs

[smoky laurel]

i don't have proviso and whisperian isn't built

[turbid badge]

lumen and any random slower works lol

[smoky laurel]

i don't have any

i would use suzuran if i did

[turbid badge]

u hve suzu

[smoky laurel]

yea not built

[turbid badge]

my prov lvl 1 on s1

anyways uhh

to make phase 2 easier

when mly gets chains retreat him and deploy exu

[smoky laurel]

but she's e2

[ivory nimbus]

Yo, how's your run? Clear B-3 yet?

[turbid badge]

than the fireballs will head to exu instead and exu has enough time to kill

wiht just autos

[smoky laurel]

yes i did. without much problem ceobe smoked the boss

[ivory nimbus]

Nice.

[smoky laurel]

i love how theres an event and every single one, a different unit is meta used

legit everyone "ooo, bring ceobe" while she was useless for a year

lol

[turbid badge]

[smoky laurel]

ain't no one tellin me not a single living soul said her name through past 6 months

literally these units are only popular for a day when they're released and then thrown back into the trash and everyone go back to stalling with push, slow and pulling units

[ivory nimbus]

Ceobe inherently is best at dealing with High Def, low RES enemies. It isn't until recently that HG decided instead of gimmicks, they will give bloated stats instead, which played heavily into her favour. Different units are good at different things, but that doesn't mean the stage design will always accommodate to the unit's advantages.

[turbid badge]

ceobe module gave her something unique

theres that

with the increasing defense in boss enemies like RA, SSS, and gamemodes

[ivory nimbus]

It make her even better at Defense-Eating. Like the buff is maddeningly strong.

[turbid badge]

just look how lin module has also improved her immensley

[void terrace]

Infinite scaling be like

[smoky laurel]

in my opinion, all stages should be doable with all units without much problem. i get that one unit will be better than the other but that doesn't should inflict stages themselves

[ivory nimbus]

All units are viable, even if they're weaker at certain stages. It simply depends on how much self-inflicted malding you want by playing those units.

[turbid badge]

exactly

if your having trouble theres buffs aswell

they don;t even affect ur rewards that much

[smoky laurel]

if i had aak, i would've done it long ago

warfarin + aak

boss dead

[turbid badge]

the stage buffs?

[smoky laurel]

don't they lower rewards?

[turbid badge]

are u really gonna cry missing 30k lmd

[ivory nimbus]

That's just asking for trouble. These stages where they have bloated stats, plus gimmicks as well, every drop of stats mattered, using Warf and Aak will 100 and 10% kill your team.

[smoky laurel]

wouldn't surtr survive that? i saw many units surviving it

not while boss is on the unit obviously

[ivory nimbus]

Imagine your Defender is already near death, and you activate Aak or Warf.

[smoky laurel]

thats why i activate it before boss approach

[void terrace]

You can buff army exu s3

S3 is funny

[ivory nimbus]

Nah, 8 seconds immortality is not enough when the mobs have the HP bar of a regular boss themselves.

[alpine pumice]

Aak is useable in S3 for sure. There are very few clears with him though

[smoky laurel]

would that be better

or similiar

[ivory nimbus]

Suzuran or Shamare debuff I'd say is better, because they don't drain HP like Warf or Aak.

[turbid badge]

s2??

[smoky laurel]

but imagine combining all of those

[smoky laurel]

you said "any slow"

[turbid badge]

im referring to myrtle lol

anyways keep trying

i believe in you ;p

[ivory nimbus]

Oh yeah, wtf?

[smoky laurel]

i noticed that

too

just now

[ivory nimbus]

[alpine pumice]

Suzuran is used in almost every S3 clear but aak or shamare are super rare

[smoky laurel]

i like big damage numbers

[turbid badge]

than raise your suzuran

can u e2 her yer

[smoky laurel]

i want to

[turbid badge]

if you can the stage becomes 5x easier

[smoky laurel]

but every new banner, theres something interesting

and i'm out of sanity potions to grind 24/7

[ivory nimbus]

I should raise my Shamare and Warf at some point, might needs them for Pyrolysis.

[smoky laurel]

lol

[ivory nimbus]

An optimal base setup should be able to output 180k in 3-4 days, or even less. Proviso is beyond cracked.

[smoky laurel]

i just recently came back after months of not playing

wait no

not months

when was the jessica alt event

[turbid badge]

last event

[ivory nimbus]

Ended 2~ weeks ago, I supposed.

[smoky laurel]

yea i did all main stages and dipped

got some head hunting permits and left

[ivory nimbus]

Not even the LMD?

[smoky laurel]

i had no more of the certificates

or whatever

the currency

[smoky laurel]

also where do i even place suzuran

[turbid badge]

help slow boss in phase 2 so

anywhere that can hit

[smoky laurel]

everyone died yet again cause hoshi decided to die

also theres no space to place my medics

where do i place others

first phase btw

surtr goes up there for right guy

i need place for silence and eyja

[ivory nimbus]

Tried this one.

[smoky laurel]

what about eyja

and do i really have to bring exusiai for the fire orbs

i don't wanna bother with thinking on how to time it

[ivory nimbus]

You can place her beside the tile I located, or next to Lumen. Her wide range should be able to cover most of your team.

[smoky laurel]

how to time her skill with the balls releasing

[smoky laurel]

i wanted to place suzuran there, sry didn't mention

[ivory nimbus]

Which Exu skill are you using?

[smoky laurel]

s3 cause

@ teta said its good

feeling like s2 would be more useful

its almost the same right

[ivory nimbus]

With S2, you needs timing, and with S3, you needs the exact timing even harder. That's the problem with auto proc skills.

[smoky laurel]

s2 isn't auto?

yea its not

i can activate it by myself

i can bring typhoon ig

she has good range

right?

[ivory nimbus]

Yes.

[smoky laurel]

i won't believe if she's that bad to even not take out the orbs

[ivory nimbus]

Besieger range is huge.

[smoky laurel]

who do i swap then

[ivory nimbus]

What are you using to take out the fireballs? They're squishy as mochi balls.

[smoky laurel]

i didn't even get to cause everyone died in the explosions so far

[ivory nimbus]

Do you not have anyone to bait the fireballs?

[smoky laurel]

i always kill the boss like right here

[smoky laurel]

mlynar

taunt still works on those right

[ivory nimbus]

Place him far away, or don't place him down at all, since if he's in range to hit the boss, the distance might not be enough to pop them balls. Use someone else as bait on the farthest tiles from discount Sauron.

As long as they don't explode, or not near your ops, you should be in the clear.

[smoky laurel]

where do i place him then if the boss dies in this area

[smoky laurel]

and he's surrounded like this

i guess i could withdraw hoshi after boss dies and place mlynar down the road

he's flying anyway

[ivory nimbus]

I don't see any good placement with your setup. Anywhere in Medic range is too close.

[smoky laurel]

idk how else to do it then

i guess its just not possible then

[ivory nimbus]

Myrtle spot should be good. Use your spare to bait the fireballs there. Młynar can be place down after phase transition if you use Suzu to slow him down enough.

[smoky laurel]

if i'm gonna use bottom right, shining gets hit

or ceobe

[ivory nimbus]

Try to kill him further up, top tiles if possible. The only one that should get clipped by that angle is Kay and maybe Shining, your Medics should be able to heal the dmg inflicted. If you survived two balls, you're in the clear to burst down Phase 2.

[smoky laurel]

if thats so then i can just put mlynar on the other side of the road

and let exusiai do her thing

[ivory nimbus]

Alright, you can try that first, then go back here if there's any problems with those modifications, and we go from there.

[smoky laurel]

i don't feel like using suzuran honestly if i have saria for the slow

if thats even enough

also, wow first gemstone in 3 stages of 4-8

lol

[ivory nimbus]

Suzuran's Fragile is incredibly important if you want those absurd stats. Either that, or get another debuffer that will accomplish the same role.

[smoky laurel]

i don't have another

[ivory nimbus]

Then you're out of luck. The best we can do is trial and errors our way with those you have.

[smoky laurel]

legit who do i use

[ivory nimbus]

From a glance, nah, aren't anything better than the setup you have now.

[smoky laurel]

also suzuran doesn't even apply fragile below e2 so whats the point

[ivory nimbus]

[smoky laurel]

i have saria for slow

if thats even enough

[dense compass]

try to utilize skalter s1 maybe it'll allow for a smooth phase 4 burst if your having trouble there ( which i had )

[smoky laurel]

i'm having trouble with orbs and the guys from left and right

thats it

[dense compass]

orbs is ez

just use exusiai or mlynar skill

[smoky laurel]

what about the other 2 dudes

and 2nd phase boss

[dense compass]

saria + eyja

destroys 3rd phase

than u surtr last phase with cobe

:p

and than use skalter seaborne on s1 so everyone lives

would replace suzu

[smoky laurel]

you want to tell me he has 3 lives?

[dense compass]

mhm

well the second is just a phase change

[smoky laurel]

easiest arknights boss:

💀

[dense compass]

he goes from flying to ground

in phase 4

but the transformation damage hurts

alot

it should kill ur entire roster

without NG/ Eyja s3

[smoky laurel]

can you show placements

[ivory nimbus]

At half HP, he will absorb the retinue and land on the ground, recovering some HP.

[smoky laurel]

thats what i've been going with so far

[dense compass]

i have saria where hoshi is and due to eyjas huge range on s3 under lumen works

[smoky laurel]

who do i place under lumen

eyja?

[ivory nimbus]

Yes.

[smoky laurel]

i guess hoshi an emergency tank then

or do i swap

[dense compass]

yk u can also use these tiles?

[smoky laurel]

they die too fast

my lumen is e2 1

[dense compass]

give him some levels lol

[smoky laurel]

no money

or the uh

things

to level up

[dense compass]

[smoky laurel]

i got absolutely 0 resources

cause once i e2 a unit

its another month of grinding for another e2

i can only afford 1 e2 per month

cause thats how long grinding takes

[dense compass]

i would try to also use skalter for the last phase

[smoky laurel]

i don't wanna bother with her tbh

[dense compass]

it'll nuke ur entire roster except surtr

[smoky laurel]

how will skalter s1 help

[dense compass]

have u ever used it?

[smoky laurel]

if she has even less hp

[smoky laurel]

once and she died right after

she's straight up weak for me

[ivory nimbus]

I didn't even realize he nuke when landing, Reedic healed way too fast.

[smoky laurel]

i only got her so mudrock can have regen

and everyone used her back then

now suddenly she's out of meta

[ivory nimbus]

Any passive heal can regen Mud. Skalter wouldn't be used if that's all she can do.

[smoky laurel]

doesn't change the fact that she always dies

no matter the placements or the order

she

always

dies

[dense compass]

i usually undeploy mlynar

at phase 2

[ivory nimbus]

You know, while I'm trying to be polite, but I have to say it, your lack of nuanced response really grinds my gears. But no matter, let's get back to this.

[dense compass]

for buffs i recc vg sp +

[ivory nimbus]

VG sp+?

Can you elaborate?

[dense compass]

[smoky laurel]

well atp, i keep repeating myself that no matter what i do, my units just get one shot and no one believes me. what else do you want me to say? zeus striked my units out of nowhere?

[ivory nimbus]

You could analyze and explain what, how, when, and where kill your ops, the information would be helpful. Simply complaining that they just die wouldn't help yourself or anyone in bringing you closer to victory.

[smoky laurel]

they all die at once in spots i marked earlier

the red circle is where hoshi is standing

[ivory nimbus]

Yes, that's why I'm helping you with the information you have provided me. But your choice of words doesn't exactly inspire confidence in me that you are really putting your minds to beating it.

[smoky laurel]

i try everything i can. nothing works and everyone telling me i need 3 different units i can't afford discourages me

[ivory nimbus]

Mug, can you explain what you mean by VG sp+?

[smoky halo]

the sp gen buff

[smoky laurel]

gonna swap myrtle for elyssium

[smoky halo]

for vg

[smoky laurel]

see if that helps

[smoky halo]

can you e2 s2m3 mod3 ur ceobe rn?

or are you broke

theres a ceobe reed lappland ptlopsis clear

[ivory nimbus]

Have you think about what those units they recommend you don't have do, and what units you have can supplement their purposes?

[smoky halo]

and then everything else is 4star and below

[smoky laurel]

i don't have anything

no resources

[smoky halo]

damn unfortunate

wish i could help but dont got like 90% of the units ur using

so cant test shit

[smoky laurel]

yes i know what they do better but there isn't much of a replacement other than weak 4 stars that will do the thing and die right after rendering half of my squad useless once the endgame comes

[ivory nimbus]

He just got back to the game during CV, so not exactly rich in mats to spare right now.

[smoky laurel]

and as i said, with the sanity i usually have, i can only afford 1 e2 per month and like 1 major material for that unit per 2 days

something around that

[turbid badge]

aw man

killed too slow

But yeah

generally should be going something like this

[ivory nimbus]

I can elaborate on the strat I use to win A-3, and you can try to take it apart and see what you can integrate with it? This is the only thing left I can help for your situation, since I can't exactly test your comp with my roster.

[smoky laurel]

sure ig, doubt i'll find much replacement

[turbid badge]

this is how i get guy low in P1

[dense compass]

i kill will monster s3 on top

[ivory nimbus]

This, plus Reed Alter.

[smoky laurel]

i'm more bothered by how do i survive the orbs

[smoky halo]

[smoky halo]

ceo and reed are hard to replace lol

well ig ceo is replacable by 2 casters

[turbid badge]

what orbs

all dead mate

[smoky halo]

but he has only 1

[smoky halo]

exu on s1 should kill them tho

[smoky laurel]

don't they hit ceobe

[smoky halo]

just make sure its targeting something decently far

so exu has time

[turbid badge]

Yea

but she gets chained and i get her back for free

Gg

[smoky laurel]

i'm so damn confused

how if mlynar is placed

mlynar is placed meaning orbs go to him

so how is she getting chained

[turbid badge]

She just dies to the irbs

and comes back into my inv

Without redeploy timer

[smoky laurel]

that makes no sense

[turbid badge]

i think its because mlynar already chained

well i didn't mechanics too indepth but

[smoky halo]

during the phase transition the boss chains all units around him in a 1.7 tiel radius

maybe its that atk?