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spark sinew
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it uses ifrit s2

sullen rover
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it might work but lol

sick basin
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Ceobe. You absolutely need ceobe

spark sinew
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the damage would be quite weaker without inspire though

glass monolith
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4 drone boxes, WHAT THE F HellaKek

sullen rover
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need is not really

sullen rover
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do you have a guide for T3

rose patrol
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I hate how ppl say ceobe is amazing in s-3 but she's being carried by suzu/saria/ifrit. Ofc she's going to be great smh

spark sinew
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i mean she is the best op to buff

waxen swan
# sullen rover do you have a guide for T3

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sullen rover
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literally put someone like exu there sees how that goes

spark sinew
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everyone else hits weaker

sullen rover
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or eyja or gg

glass monolith
sullen rover
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they will not do the same damage

waxen swan
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Kay is built difference

spark sinew
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but ye i agree, kay might be a bit overrated here

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the best option for burst? sure
"don't play without her"? ehhh

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what's the rest of the team

glass monolith
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Whoever said T-3 is easy - WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU DEPLOY YOUR SHIT THERE IS NO SPACE aaaaaaaa

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spark sinew
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you can use it as a reference if you want

plucky badge
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thanks

lofty scarab
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yo anyone with goldenglow s2 m3?

lapis hornet
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ok t3 done

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interesting map

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lin useful pogu

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even bust out th archetto lmao

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these t maps actually p interesting

vivid rain
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t-3 was silly

foggy grove
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lin can take a few beating from red seed

lapis hornet
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mixture of tryna kill and tryna survive rather than unga bunga everything

vivid rain
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should've brought jessalt s2 tbh

spark sinew
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i don't really get what was the theme for t2

vivid rain
spark sinew
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eugh, sorry

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t3

vivid rain
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yeah t3 theme is all over the place

glass monolith
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theme for T-3 is get f-

vivid rain
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i think HG themselves dont know either

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so they just used the most generic terrain possible (barrenland)

spark sinew
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like t1 just spams a lot of enemies and you need to deal with the hordes (while some of them explode on you, others are fairly tanky when not blocked)
t2 is 2 lanes, one with high def and one that wants stall (and are helped with ranged harassers and with debuffers)

glass monolith
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Chapter 12 drones
LE Crabs
LE AoE target 2 characters casters
Normal Drones
Smol Def Buff Drones
Bomb Drones
Chapter 7 jetpack joe crew
Chapter 7 Mortals

lapis hornet
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just mix of fliers and ground rush

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while being rly cramped for safe tiles

foggy grove
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ya i have no tile for mosti lol

brave sun
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very disappointing didnt manage to kill all enemies

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1/10

glass monolith
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And they REALLY piled up those casters

lapis hornet
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saria solo tanks everything as usual

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i tried exe and penance they suck smh

vivid rain
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tf you using exe there that stage is so art damage heavy i'd borrow NG if it wasnt a T stage

lapis hornet
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exe to camp left red box

foggy grove
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why bring ng

vivid rain
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a lot of things to bait

foggy grove
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caster doesn't have any hp

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i'm using living bait

vivid rain
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im insane you need to understand my logic

spark sinew
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reapers suck to use in blind hard content

vivid rain
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(there's none)

spark sinew
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very sad

vivid rain
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like half the threats in that stage deal art so exe is exceptionally fucked

spark sinew
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still better than current penance at least

timber river
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Is it physically possible for me to get Cardigan's skin from DOS when I don't have any E2 operators except Mrytle yet?

vivid rain
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show roster

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also no

spark sinew
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well DoS is still up for awhile

foggy grove
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uh though luck

spark sinew
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you can rush e2 very fast

vivid rain
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oh wow myrtle e2 that's cooked

spark sinew
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damn, that edit. Truly got baited

timber river
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mb 😅

vivid rain
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uh maybe ceobe borrow can do something idk

timber river
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I started playing just over a month ago

spark sinew
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splendid e1s
what have you done in DoS so far?

vivid rain
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ok i just checked, diagnosis is no chance

spark sinew
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or didn't try and wanted to know if you can clear until the cardi skin?

vivid rain
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unless the CN dalaos have alr cooked up a low end strat with reed or something

timber river
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didn't ever bother trying B3...

vivid rain
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this event is so poorly designed beginners cant even

foggy grove
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the t stage is kinda interesting but yeah definitely not intended for beginner

timber river
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I tried looking up low rarity guides and they straight up didn't exist so I figured I have no hope AmiyaCry

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I guess I'll try again in a year if it reruns?...

vivid rain
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i sure hope it doesnt rerun

timber river
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I just want the Cardi skin JessSob

vivid rain
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pray they add it to shop later

spark sinew
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can you try t-2

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and just see if your lisk can tank mortars

vivid rain
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in hindsight i shouldnt have trusted #help and buy saria

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or maybe i should? who knows

spark sinew
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it's deranged but if she does

vivid rain
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she can

spark sinew
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we can borrow...croissant

timber river
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Is there anyone like super meta coming up that I can buy with yellow certs? I have 178..

vivid rain
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mortar doesnt do that much damage so lol lmao

spark sinew
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well then they have T-2 in the bag

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but idr how much this gives

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for t-1 the stall options are indeed a bit lacking

vivid rain
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not enough for cardigan skin obv

spark sinew
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sure but event didn't end yet

vivid rain
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since you have to clear A-3 for it

foggy grove
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do you?

vivid rain
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i mean iirc yeah?

spark sinew
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clearing b-3 shouldn't be a problem eventually
so some part of A stages will fall eventually, probably

smoky halo
spark sinew
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they even have defenders raised

vivid rain
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much better than my account during cc12 for sure

timber river
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oooh ok almost cleared T-2 wave 2

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my friend's texalter wasn't quite enough but I think I can do it if I just play better 🗿

foggy grove
spark sinew
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put croissant in the middle

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put a healer

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put lisk last, adjacent to her

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spam s2

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could probably do something similar with other units but idr any combos now

vivid rain
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croissant is prob better since she isnt limited by block count

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oh well, not like any shifters are limited by block count

spark sinew
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other shifters can't shift both lanes

timber river
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I played defenderknights and got past wave 2

spark sinew
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croissant strat just stalls everyone forever btw, ez t-2 clear

timber river
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Idk if wave 3 is possible though the red mortar enemies are just way too strong AmiyaCry

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is croissant buyable with anything...

spark sinew
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just borrow

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ok just realized that borrowing croissant might be a problem

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you can ping some 5* nerds

timber river
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will saria blemishine nian or asbestos work or does it have to be croissant + SP battery because of her push

spark sinew
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the latter

timber river
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man

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that just gets me 1 crystalline circuit anyways so honestly I don't think it's worth the effort >.>

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maybe the next standard banner will have someone crazy for me to buy with yellow certs and I can come back

spark sinew
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that's the most expensive t5 mat afaik
but you have time to think about it

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oh it won't

timber river
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💀

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do super meta ops ever get put on kernal/standard?

spark sinew
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your base seems to be in order or it's a very good coincidence so there's just pushing the story and raising the ops

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eventually

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you shouldn't pull those usually though

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since the rates are dilluted

timber river
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yeah I was just gonna buy someone with certs

spark sinew
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i would be suprised if you won't be able to clear b3 until event ends though 🤔
roster seems to be okay

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do think twice about whether to buy someone or not, especially since your resources to invest into them are very limited for now

timber river
spark sinew
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my man did you level the office or not though

timber river
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I misclicked office when I wanted to level training room and now I have to live with the knowledge that my base will unoptimal for the rest of my life

spark sinew
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eh, rr2 or office2 is fine

timber river
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I RR3'd for Texas and that misclick was office 2 -> 3 because I leveled office 1 -> 2 like week 2 of playing the game...

spark sinew
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truly sad story welcome to MR club
what was your borrow for B stages

timber river
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I used my friend's lvl 90 S3M3 mod3 Texalter just to stall the defenders

spark sinew
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i wonder if ling or mlynar will be better

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especially with your roster

timber river
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that boss' mechanics broke my brain for a solid few runs ngl 💀

spark sinew
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texas doesn't do much i think

timber river
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I'll come back to it in like a week IstinaThink

spark sinew
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wait dos is up for another week?

lapis hornet
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2 weeks event

viral surge
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Anyone got any tips for Design of Strife A3?
I can kill the boss with some consistency (sometimes during second phase the boss just lines up poorly and nukes my entire setup) but I just haven't found any way to deal with the last Dublinn Elite that paths down and to the right blue box

Can provide roster and general strat I've tried if anyone wants but I'll avoid the textwall for now

sullen rover
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uh

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i did reedic sandwich and defenders

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for those guys

viral surge
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Should be doable, definitely have the roster for it, just haven't found the right setup to do so

noble pewter
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If sometime u being nuked maybe is u not luring away/destroying fireball in time or u letting his long range aoe arts in 2nd phase hitting ur important ops

viral surge
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when i get nuked it's usually when the boss is blocked during phase 2 and the fireball goes off basically instantly

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depending on mlynar timing

noble pewter
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Is it he is right on top of mlynar or u put mlynar too close to everyone PtiloThink

viral surge
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both

noble pewter
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Cause mlynar innate taunt, the fireball destination is mlynar, if boss right on top of mlynar it will auto explode ExuHyperStare n the radius is cross shape so if ur ranged op nearby they will die

viral surge
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I usually use ng doll to redirect but sometimes the boss is just in an awkward place

noble pewter
viral surge
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I can try grab a quick recording of a clear attempt

viral surge
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i've had mlynar on what i think is the saria tile in that and saria a tile below

noble pewter
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Hmm r ur op taking elemental dmg due to being to near fireball spawn pt maybe?

viral surge
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so if the boss is sat on saria the fireball can trigger basically instantly on saria

noble pewter
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As long ur cage is active the fireball won't target saria, unless mlynar dead PtiloThink

viral surge
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basically what i've run with so far and managed 10/11 runs

noble pewter
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Maybe if u have enuf dps u no need bring mlynar n can just throw all ur other unused units after setup as a NG cage

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Oh r u just relying on ines slow for the left side enemies? N hope to burst them b4 they run out of ur killzone?

viral surge
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yeah i've been bringing silverash to compensate for the fireballs since his s3 cleans them out and free's mlynar fast on imprison to nuke the boss asap

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means timing is super tight to drop surtr after

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since there's no slots to deploy left

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ines does help with the early dp gen to get things set up too so hard to find a way to replace

noble pewter
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hmm i try to see if i can make sth with ur roster n try make a strat or sth

viral surge
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I'll try grab a recording of what i do

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saying that

lapis hornet
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skipped eyjaberry?

viral surge
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i might have just cheesed it

viral surge
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same deal with typhon, -100 pulls for dupes

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I've got pretty terrible luck in this game

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ends up with this sort of thing as a regular occurance

lapis hornet
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rip

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jess should be able to tank no?

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i tanked with hoshi+ couple healers

viral surge
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I tried her a bit early on but she tended to fold a bit too quickly

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mostly a case of couldnt get her + ng + honeyberry down

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i could probably try her for the last set only thinking on it, but i'm pretty tight on units as is, would need to optimize a different unit out of the clear

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wow

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the moment i record it, it works

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very awkward

lapis hornet
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gg

viral surge
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I definitely appreciate the help nontheless, I think this was just weirdly one of those runs where all the rng lined up perfectly

vocal leaf
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you should have use saria s3 that helps killing the last guard

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i use something very similar

spark sinew
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honeyberry Bnuuy
s-3 time

viral surge
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with just honeyberry and ng saria can't live without s1, I tried

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punished for not being lucky on eyja banner

lapis hornet
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time for s3 now LeonhardtPog

viral surge
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i have the units for s3 so I'll probably try it

spark sinew
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idk why you were using honeyberry at all tbh, no other medics?

lapis hornet
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no eyja no ng

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honey has the range

viral surge
vocal leaf
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lumen JessNotLikeThis

lapis hornet
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sucks

viral surge
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planned to get eyja so had no need to build before and then when I didn't get eyja there was no content that I needed him for so he's just been stuck on the bench

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now that I don't have any short term pull plans to chase he'll probably get built

vivid summit
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Does nightingale on s3 fail to tank dos a3 below 50% health boss fireballs

peak cloak
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that fire ball deals a lots of damage i dont even think NG will helps almost everyone survive that.

vivid rain
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10k art damage is no joke

vocal leaf
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shamare doll can help to survive

heady sphinx
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even if we assume everyone has at minimum 10 res:
(Base res + NG talent ) * 1+s3 = 25*2.5=75. thats still 2.5k arts damage everyone has to tank

soft crystal
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Just dodge xD

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Dont have to eat 10k damage if you can dodge it ezzzzzz

vivid summit
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Quercus gets 100 res with nightingale right

heady sphinx
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pretty sure theres a res cap of 95

smoky halo
smoky halo
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the dmg formula simply means that even if ur res is above 95

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u still take 5% chip dmg

vivid summit
civic bear
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just get p2w p4 ng

vivid summit
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Surely quercus lives with 100 res

smoky halo
spark sinew
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you're better off just killing the fireballs

smoky halo
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but the fireball is aoe

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which is like

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goodluck to ur other units lmao

smoky halo
spark sinew
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can they be stunned, actually?

smoky halo
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or just bait into a corner with ng

spark sinew
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idr

vocal leaf
smoky halo
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huh theres 3 phases?

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is the air and ground different phases?

spark sinew
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well you can argue that second phase is both ground and air

glass monolith
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Flying and ground phase 2 use different bullshit

vivid summit
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Nightingale cages probably bait

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Can surtr kill ground phase

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2

spark sinew
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with a lot of buffs

vivid summit
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Probably with fire debuff

vocal leaf
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yes she can, i tanked him with amiya RedOmegaLul but you’re doing a3 right? i was referring to s3

civic bear
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we could pretend the hp bar for p2 is little and the fly to ground as phase transition and the boss would be 3 phase

vivid summit
smoky halo
civic bear
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it basicly is the same thing

vivid summit
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Surely

spark sinew
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go try i suppose

vivid summit
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Will tmw

spark sinew
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you don't really need to kill it fast though

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especially since you have NG

vivid summit
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Borrowing NG

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Idk how long her cages can tank fireballs

spark sinew
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would rather borrow dps

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and just kill fireballs

vivid summit
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Helps with tanking attacks from phase 3

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Ig

spark sinew
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you didn't share your team besides those 3, so what do i know

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maybe NG borrow is the way

vivid summit
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Hoshi stall mudrock boss stall texasyato weedy top stall

smoky halo
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what

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mudrock stall

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what

vocal leaf
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weedy stall sounds fun

vivid summit
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Phase 1

smoky halo
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she doesnt die?

vivid summit
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S3

heady sphinx
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Just looked up the actual stats of enemies in S-3.
Bladehelm Knightclub Elite: 30k HP 700 ATK
Bloodboil Knightclub elite: 70k HP 12k ATK 1.5k DEF
Gifts of Magnaimity 6k HP
Hateful Avengers: 60k HP 700 ATK 500 DEF 75 RES Atk buff 330%
HeartBillow 20k HP
Sarkaz Chain Caster Captains 35k HP 750 ATK
Sarkaz Wither Maws 70k HP
Taicauh Champion 60k HP
Trilby Asher 55k HP 700 DEF
Dublinn elite companion shadowblades 40k HP 700 ATK

vivid summit
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Shouldn’t die

spark sinew
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good skill

heady sphinx
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Unless the internet lied to me, but it would never do that

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no one would just post false information

spark sinew
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man those numbers don't look so bad in IS
ig the buffs on your ops go a long way

heady sphinx
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welp, time to do 3* only s-3

smoky halo
vivid summit
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Bonk so adorable

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I’m taking it home

civic bear
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the stat there is pre +60% hp

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prts map shows updated hp

smoky halo
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ah

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good

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dont need to do funny mafs now

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if only prts map works with IS diff modifiers

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so i dont need 1 tab for tomimi and another for prts map

heady sphinx
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1.35x atk and 1.5x hp iirc

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regardless, this is absolutely crazy stats.

smoky halo
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year 4 stage design

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🤩

heady sphinx
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melantha can take on the boss though

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got ansel and hibiscus to heal, so I'm good

vivid summit
heady sphinx
weak gazelle
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hmmm
new update at CN server
see some interesting thing thereMudrockNaruhodo

vivid summit
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Is cc2 still going

heady sphinx
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any update on tactician modules? who did they just announce it?

weak gazelle
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wait a week i guess
by that time we usually know more detail (numbers etc)

spark sinew
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too bad we don't have them now

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vigil would solo s-3

sly drift
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Yea. Bet it

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Vigil with module would summon collapsal

brave sun
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vigil gets +1000hp and +500 atk

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wolves still die anyway

vivid rain
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vigil wont be good until his wolves get more def per stack

heady sphinx
limpid siren
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I don’t think def per stack is the problem

heady sphinx
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1.1k hp is nothing

limpid siren
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Faster refresh rate might be a better buff

heady sphinx
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forgot about that. 25s respawn is awful

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beanstalks is what, 15s?

limpid siren
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Something like that

soft crystal
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Worst part of vigil wolves is that they need to take hits before they can hit back usually

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Needing to block sucks, if they worked like BN's pet it would be a lot better since they can shred stuff before being touched

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Increased range on wolves pls even a single tile helps a lot

spark sinew
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bigger range would be huge

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all while changing the def ignore and dmg amp thingy to make it work with it

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although no way they would do it

foggy grove
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zilch chance

soft crystal
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Why mumu despite having a hella squishy ranged ground pet

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Actually is strong af

spark sinew
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because it's ranged

soft crystal
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Shreds stuff before getting touch

limpid siren
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range really do be fixing most issues

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average tower defence moment

soft crystal
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I heard that vigil wolf doesnt even attack wraiths is this even true

halcyon adder
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Has any module changed range of ops?

celest bluff
thorn bluff
foggy grove
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caster

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aoe

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they got tiny 1 range on normal attack

spark sinew
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core caster got 2 tiles on her range

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she had 4 tiles total before, so it's huge!

scarlet fulcrum
weak gazelle
high warren
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ascalon!!!

dark violet
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I just e2 exusiai and.. is it weird that I find her underwhelming?

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She deals less damage than kroos alter

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and kroos has a bonkers talent

spark sinew
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maybe because you didn't mastery her

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so duh

dark violet
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wym

weak gazelle
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uhhh
y0 ops and marksman on a bad side now so yeah....

dark violet
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she has 100 less attack than kroos

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although I guess at e2 90 she has only 60 less or so

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with module, she has 590 atk and +8% atk

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I guess she barely goes over

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meanwhile kroos has 608 base attack, and her talent is just free 175% damage

foggy grove
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maf is not mafing

versed arrow
foggy grove
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540+90++41

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also kralter dmg is very backloaded

dark violet
foggy grove
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she has more total dmg but exu dish out all her dmg way faster

versed arrow
dark violet
weak gazelle
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huh?
krooster never beat exu in atk statCeobeConfused

foggy grove
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with how def works,she is walled less RedOmegaLul

soft crystal
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Psure even with s2 activated s3 exu still beats kroos on most scenarios

foggy grove
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exu will one cycle ufo,kroos will just scratch that

foggy grove
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ain't no way we are cooking kralter over exu RedOmegaLul

dark violet
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my exu has 5 trust, so that's 90 less atk for me

soft crystal
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Im opening up viktor labs

dark violet
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I'll have to see when she has more trust

outer sail
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Has anyone got a strat for LS-6 with fewer than 4 ops?

spark sinew
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how would you have 5 trust on exu as an older player Bnuuy

dark violet
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why would I have used her before

tame gate
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Do I ask strategy for DoS here?

dark violet
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I got her only recently

tame gate
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Or is there a thread or something

soft crystal
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You can

versed arrow
tame gate
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Yeah, not often around here so go figure

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Anyway, gonna ask some tips I guess

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So this is the furthest I can damage phase 2 of the boss

soft crystal
tame gate
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Wonder what other things could I do actually put it down

tame gate
spark sinew
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you should use saria

soft crystal
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Ceobe outdpses everyone

brave sun
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why aint noone shaming this guy for pulling on kernel

quick pecan
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really living in a world where someone thinks crit chance > higher consistent multipliers lol

brave sun
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nah you do you its fine

dark violet
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I got exu during Il siracusano

spark sinew
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it could've been top op

tame gate
spark sinew
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but yeah i wanted to shame him

dark violet
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so kinda late when I already had kroos alter maxed

spark sinew
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my guy it's been one year

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"got her recently"

brave sun
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exu has been dead for like 5 years tho

tame gate
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I guess I'll try replacing Reed for Ceobe even without cuz she still does better is it?

soft crystal
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I used exu in t 3

foggy grove
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okay grandpa

spark sinew
foggy grove
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why replace,just use both

tame gate
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I am, just used it to stall double axe

brave sun
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yeah exu used to be good back in my day in the 20th century......

foggy grove
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arts fragility from reed for ceobe dmg

tame gate
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I guess my now small issue is understanding

dark violet
little orchid
tame gate
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Does the phase 2 transition chain randomly or

quick pecan
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that’s not exactly how words work but alright

tame gate
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I know cage happens to those around the boss after dying phase 1

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IDK about the chains cuz I kept seeing chains during phase transition

dark violet
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I still haven't done poz yet, despite getting her on release

spark sinew
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he shouldn't chain anything during phase transition

dark violet
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and I didn't have any of that archetype

tame gate
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Yet my Suzuran, Mlynar, and Nightingale got chained

sullen rover
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you can abuse the chains on suzu and saria to get their skill back up

tame gate
sullen rover
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redeploy

soft crystal
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Phase 1 transition has chains around the boss

tame gate
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I know but need to destroy fireballs

sullen rover
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use mlynar

quick pecan
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in any case the reason ppl use kroos alt over exu is bc of her stuns

why else would people have shilled her to hell and back during is3

versed arrow
sullen rover
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or uh silverash works

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unironically

tame gate
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Hmm, is the duration long enough to also hurt the 1st life of phase 2 at m3

spark sinew
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no

tame gate
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Shucks

spark sinew
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i mean he won't do much regardless, and usually the boss is not in the range anyway

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oh your setup has him in range

versed arrow
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you use other ops to kill phase 2, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Oi2TrhwrtI I used this for reference

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spark sinew
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why won't you use saria though, especially with NG reedic

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so he won't leak

tame gate
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Timing and wanting open deploy for Texalter

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Cuz I got chained during phase transition for some reason

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Wish I had GG to help global chain destroying but alas

soft crystal
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Texalter kinda does nothing here tbh

sullen rover
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she uh res shreds i guess

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whos taking up all your deploy slots anyways?

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theres like 8?

tame gate
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She helps stall and breaks chains

soft crystal
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You can just assign typhon for that

versed arrow
tame gate
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Reed, Suzuran, Typhon, both Eyja, Nightingale

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And Mlynar

soft crystal
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The chains have high res and low def

sullen rover
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eyja? Bnuuy

tame gate
sullen rover
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people use s2 typhon here

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in s3

tame gate
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Hmm

spark sinew
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s3 can work

soft crystal
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Either works

tame gate
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I'll try S2 later and switch Reed to Ceobe for bottom

soft crystal
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S3 has more control and is better when multiple are chained

tame gate
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But then there's chance it'll then way miss the boss

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Then again I use S3 anyway

versed arrow
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So you dont plan to use mlynar for that job? he also clear the tomb thingy(the thing after you retreated with chain) while killing the fireball, most video do that

soft crystal
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Typhon doesnt need to hit the boss, it has like 3k def

sullen rover
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2k def
second phase can spawn a 6k def barrier

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either way just use your ceobe for the boss

soft crystal
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Peanuts compared to what ceobe is doing

tame gate
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Hmm, I'll try run it back

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Quite as too my LMD is onn4 digits again

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I hope lvl 7 is enough whilst the others are M3 at least

soft crystal
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Just borrow if need be

outer sail
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Gah, I always forget to remove Dorothy module on trust farms then wonder why it's unstable ;P

grave tinsel
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Did anyone do Battlefield S3 and if so how hard is it compared to A3

spark sinew
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it's way harder

dark violet
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it's not worth doing

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if that's your question

grave tinsel
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hmm

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i did A3 without guide maybe ill just lookup S3 lol

soft crystal
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Just redo it with

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Or better yet just use someone else

dark violet
#

all you'll get for that is pain and 50K lmd

grave tinsel
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Pain?

soft crystal
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Is fun

grave tinsel
soft crystal
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Cejobe is amazing

outer sail
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Crazy what some modules can do for some characters.

sullen rover
dark violet
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dorothy's module is just: lets make her do a shit ton more damage

dark violet
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still getting +20% damage and extra stats

outer sail
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Well, yes, that's fair, but it can make auto unstable sometimes ;P

sullen rover
#

what

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how

outer sail
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Crit mines might kill something where a non-crit won't.

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Which for some heavy enemies may cause aleak

smoky halo
sullen rover
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CeobeConfused the seeds are saved in autos

outer sail
#

oh... Weird, I have no idea why my auto was unstable then.

smoky halo
dark violet
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usually auto becomes unstable with frame speed

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when some events are really tight

sullen rover
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unless you already did the run modless and the auto equipped mod(if that even happens)
which should just applies to every module

smoky halo
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i cant belive AK is p2w need to pay for a good device to farm properly

outer sail
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Nah, I did the run with module, then tried to auto and it failed, then I did without module, then did auto and it was fine.

sullen rover
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frame drops

outer sail
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Probably just a timing thing, some mine might have been too close to an enemy stepping on the square or something

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So it failed in the auto to dropt he mine

dark violet
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yeah, and the frame change means it's not a valid tile

versed arrow
spark sinew
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a3 is pretty easy to even setup an afk setup for though, meanwhile s-3 felt much harder

smoky halo
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guro is just dalao

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he cant play anything thats too ez

spark sinew
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he even did this without gg s2m3!

smoky halo
#

🤩

sullen rover
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hauckindu do you think ash s1m3 is worthwhile

spark sinew
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for you, yes

cosmic thicket
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I heard s1m3 is a good afk skill

dark violet
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can't wait until we get sweep feature

spark sinew
#

who's the fastest afk farmer on 1-7

cosmic thicket
#

nobody

spark sinew
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is it exalter, or do we have some ranged ops that can clear it with bigger range

cosmic thicket
#

you can't leak every enemy 🚮

smoky halo
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all clears are afk since u do auto

spark sinew
#

maybe ros s1

dark violet
#

anyway, what's the subclass of the new CN op?

spark sinew
#

but for something like mag you need to redo her skill timings and summon deploys every time you change trust teams

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so this sucks

dark violet
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I saw it was a specialist, but I wonder if that means we got another broken executor

sullen rover
#

ambusher

foggy grove
#

ambusher

dark violet
#

huh

smoky halo
#

it cringe

spark sinew
#

hence the question

sullen rover
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i was thinking of odda the new guard subclass for some reason CeobeConfused

spark sinew
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i used blaze before, but exalter is just better

smoky halo
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can mizuki solo 1-7

foggy grove
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i have given up hope of any decent 5*

smoky halo
#

try mizu ig

sullen rover
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surely they cook this time

smoky halo
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like infront of the stun totem

dark violet
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and does it make ambusher worth using, or is it another SilenceSleepy

sullen rover
spark sinew
#

what?

sullen rover
spark sinew
#

all ambushers except one are worth using

smoky halo
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kirara gaming

foggy grove
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kirara for base

sullen rover
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also ambushers are fine
and subclass issues doesnt exist in 2024 Bnuuy

spark sinew
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shit in base as well

smoky halo
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wtf lmao that emote

spark sinew
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i'm not gonna run 4 gold factories just to make her better than 30% worker

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while forcing meh partners

foggy grove
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run 5 instead

dark violet
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right yeah, it's been too long since I used ethan

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trying manticore made me think the rest was garbage

smoky halo
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i just hope they make the new ambusher either cc oriented or dmg oriented anf not some halfbaked mixture of both

spark sinew
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it's probably your skill issue

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or sl1 manti Bnuuy

smoky halo
void terrace
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Cough mizuki

smoky halo
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shes for stalling

void terrace
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Trying to cope

sullen rover
void terrace
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His s2

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Is wild

dark violet
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manticore for stalling?

smoky halo
void terrace
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I mean I'm still debating raising him

cosmic thicket
#

cc12 says hi

dark violet
#

isn't she way worse than ethan for that

smoky halo
dark violet
#

I did

smoky halo
spark sinew
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did you use s2....

smoky halo
#

depends

cosmic thicket
#

Manti is more consistent whereas Ethan is more burst

void terrace
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She's far more consistent thant Ethan's rng bind

smoky halo
#

yes if u wanna perma stall with shifters

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manti is pretty good

cosmic thicket
#

usually ethan is fine but cc12 is a counterexample

void terrace
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She can be used in long drawn out stalls with shifters

sullen rover
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😂

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never drafting this fucker again

smoky halo
void terrace
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Manti is a far better general stalker

smoky halo
#

a good player will always land the bind smh

void terrace
#

Damn

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Mizuki s1 is so tempting but

spark sinew
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i mean the best general stalker is mizuki

void terrace
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I don't think I would ever use him

spark sinew
#

but 6*, go figure

smoky halo
dark violet
spark sinew
#

sl1 s2?

void terrace
#

I shall consider

dark violet
#

looking at M3 her s1 looks much better

void terrace
#

I mean mizuki s1 with skalter perhaps?

spark sinew
#

no

smoky halo
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why tho

void terrace
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DMG amp time

smoky halo
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he has high base atk already

dark violet
#

it combines with the module alright yeah

smoky halo
#

so skalter doesnt add much

void terrace
#

Hmmm true

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Perhaps stainless

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Long term atk buff SkadiDaijoubu

spark sinew
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or just use him solo

smoky halo
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🤩

dark violet
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I'll have to look back at her during trust squad one day

sullen rover
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goofy ahh mizuki buff

spark sinew
#

instead of doing suboptimal and outright bad combos Bnuuy

void terrace
#

But combos are love and life

sullen rover
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youd catch me with aak s3 + mizuki s2 then skalter mizuki s1

foggy grove
#

manti with module does -60 mspd

spark sinew
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combos should be better than 2 solo ops to be even worth considering

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which those aren't

smoky halo
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aak mizuki s3 is the real combo

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speedrun sepuku

void terrace
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Yeah now adays nothing beats the better end of ops

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I just want to make mizuki shine

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With a one or two buffers

sullen rover
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you can force him in

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just not

void terrace
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So he doesn't just flop and be useless in my team

sullen rover
#

skalter mizuki

spark sinew
#

so instead of having 1 non bis slot

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you have 2/3 shit slots

void terrace
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I mean Typhon mylnar. Chalter. They kind of invalidate the DMG of everyone else on the team

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So like having a mizuki that

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Deals somewhat better dmg

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Is nice

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I like seeing my ops useful

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Rather than having them able to be replaced with every other better op

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Mizuki s2 appeals for the short cycle bind

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S1 has decent afk dmg

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I don't want this to be swire all over again where she's just not impactful to the team

spark sinew
#

wasting another slot for a buffer is way worse than just running mizuki solo, no?

void terrace
#

Swire alter was pain

void terrace
#

If not I would just run my usual squad

spark sinew
#

he would work anyway

void terrace
#

But I would notice it a lot less I guess

#

Hmmm

spark sinew
#

if you add skalter or stainless you're dragging yourself down

void terrace
#

Eeh I'll wait for mod 3

void terrace
#

It's really not that big of a problem

#

I usually run abyssal core plus mylnar Ines chalter trexas

spark sinew
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it's not a problem but i don't really get the point

void terrace
#

So that leaves at least 4 spots for random ops

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I just want to make him the star of the show

spark sinew
#

"if i run mizuki my squad's power would be diminished"

void terrace
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If I use him

spark sinew
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"let me make my squad even shittier by running suboptimal buffers for him"

void terrace
#

Like the point is to have mizuki front and center dealing the key d∆s

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Dps

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If not I would just run mylnar no?

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I mean

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This is more of a boredom thing

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Oh I forgot to do blaze module

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I should probably invest in her rather than mizuki I guess

sullen rover
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if you think mlynar is ruining mizuki for some reason then dont run mly Bnuuy

void terrace
#

Exactly

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Hence the extra slots

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To be used on buffers

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I could pick shitter ops

sullen rover
void terrace
#

But eeh

#

I have options

spark sinew
#

you should pick up shittier ops

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because currently you're doing exactly that but convoluted

void terrace
#

I'll give it a go

sullen rover
#

start running like carne eunectes

spark sinew
#

by using ops suboptimally

sullen rover
#

mizuki will look good

spark sinew
#

do not badmouth carne

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she's better than stainless that's used on mizuki

void terrace
#

Perhaps I should do a run where I make 4 squads with no repeats

spark sinew
#

at least she has some utility

void terrace
#

Perhaps mizuki carne cycle binds

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But that needs aspd

sullen rover
#

the guy is still insisting on stainless mizuki? Bnuuy

void terrace
#

Once again the qiubai Perma bind is

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An option

sullen rover
#

whatever floats your boat bro

void terrace
#

Hmm maybe not stainless but shamare?

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Just someone to make him a little more useful

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That synergies with his s1

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My brain went to atk buffers since he has decent multipliers

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I mean ptilo is guaranteed

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But perhaps stainless s2 to spam his s1

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Might actually work

sullen rover
#

you can run spearhead squad

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free +15% atk for mizuki

void terrace
#

Eeh I've run worse with stainless s2 passenger plus mostima

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For very funny passenger spam outside of SSS and IS

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Is rosmontis module even viable?

sullen rover
#

mod1
upgrades are bad iirc (?)

spark sinew
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upgrades add a lot

sullen rover
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maybe i was thinking of greyter

spark sinew
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greyy mod2 is ok but yeah...

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not spectacular

limpid siren
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i'd just leave it at mod1 if you're a normal human being

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most players aren't deploying him for damage

spark sinew
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i feel like if you're deploying him at all

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you do care about the damage a bit

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shittiest way to tank steam knight

limpid siren
spark sinew
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yeah i'm not sold on noir s1 at all

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i thought maybe it's just s2 that sucked

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but it's just noir

limpid siren
orchid talon
#

Does anyone have a reedic s3m3 I could add?

lapis hornet
#

what's your ign?

spark sinew
#

and we never saw him again

empty hawk
#

any ideas for s3 LappDumb

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the elemental and art damage from the fireball kinda hurts but no nightingale SkadiDaijoubu

spark sinew
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how bad was rhe slow from mosti without the module

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i would add ifrit there for sure
not sure if frds are doing much

empty hawk
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they help with the chains at the start, also that guy that spawns a bunch of wooden stuff

dark glade
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looks like borrow eyjaberry angle

empty hawk
spark sinew
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also speaking of the ifrit, do change her from s1 default, ty

dark glade
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get the arts sred from ifrit s3

empty hawk
#

i guess i could get slows from.. angelina or mosti

spark sinew
#

ange is pretty damn bad there

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the only good thing about her usually is the fast cycle

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which works against her there

empty hawk
#

hm

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mosti is a bit expensive for start

outer sail
#

Yeah, I've had similar struggles with Typhon start

spark sinew
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why'd you start with them

outer sail
#

Who, me with Typhon or Tall with Mosti?

crisp bolt
#

mosti

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mosti start is just FiaDed

outer sail
#

Probably trying for ending 2?

empty hawk
empty hawk
crisp bolt
#

for S-3 yeah

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that's a borrow you can do

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not having module does suck though

empty hawk
#

that's why i borrowed suzu but then later on boss' fireball just passing through my unit hurts a lot

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im stuck between survivability or damage 🧍‍♂️

outer sail
empty hawk
polar steppe
#

the first elite enemy is the bane of my attempts, help

leaden kraken
lapis hornet
#

what are you looking for in particular

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gamepress has a tier list, a newbie tier list, and operator masteries are also rated, it's a decent look for new players

leaden kraken
glass monolith
#

One we using CeobeConfused

leaden kraken
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I was hopeing for something like this, but newer than 2021 🙂

empty hawk
#

finally beat the boss in s3.. but then there's still enemy JessNotLikeThis

spark sinew
orchid talon
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Dude fuck s3

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Idk wtf is happening randomly sometimes during phase transition my suzu will just get one shot for no reason

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Mlynar is baiting the fireballs I have 2 healers on her she’s just getting one shot

south bone
#

Didn't the fireballs explode on contact

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or did i misremember something

spark sinew
#

relatable

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do you have ng/eyja s3

spark sinew
#

i think she just dies from fire proc otherwise

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at least on e2 60 without mod

empty hawk
#

e2 60 with mods dies JessNotLikeThis i borrowed one

leaden kraken
#

I've tried every guide I've found for A-3, even with exact same operators, I still fail... So I gave up all together

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First event I've ever dropped

spark sinew
#

don't have a good tank + something like saria?

leaden kraken
#

I have saria, still no go. What I do not have is suzuran nor eyalter maxed

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Also, Saria is nit M3

orchid talon
#

Bruh

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I guess it’s literally just the geysers

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This is mission is so insane it’s literally 11 boss units

spark sinew
#

a3 doesn't need suzu

orchid talon
#

The amount of times I lost cuz I can’t kill trillby fast enough CementGremlin

leaden kraken
spark sinew
#

no aoe?

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i actually don't know if aa snipers prioritize it

leaden kraken
#

Same characters like he does, same skill levels, same modules

spark sinew
#

something like typhon also works

leaden kraken
#

Typhone not M3

scarlet mortar
#

special targeting overrides taunt

spark sinew
#

typhon barely gets anything from m3 anyway, sl7 is fine

empty hawk
leaden kraken
orchid talon
#

Trying to save it for a little later since boss wasn’t standing yet

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Even after activating NG, randomly she’ll just die during phase 2

spark sinew
#

I'm actually not familiar with their guides so can't help with that
show the team/levels, if you want?

orchid talon
#

It’s before half hp too so boss isn’t shooting the mega fireball yet

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It’s just so confusing where damage is coming from, I’m guessing it’s a mix of bad luck from geyser+boss damage at same time

spark sinew
#

it looks like a burn proc

orchid talon
#

Yeah ik that clip was a suzu burn proc

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But like what about this

spark sinew
#

with a geyser overlapping and also making suzu take more damage

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i mean it does a lot of damage

orchid talon
#

Like how the fuck is nightingale dying here

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There are 4 units healing her + her s3 is active like

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I mean I guess I can just drop cage at the start of phase 2 to be safe, just worried it won’t live long enough idk

lapis hornet
#

use cage to bait fireballs brah

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also i would yeet eyja and put surtr on geyser

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this way when boss fall down hell be blocked

orchid talon
#

I need to save Surtr for lizard later

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Eyja is for atk+ for ceobe + damage lizard more than for boss

lapis hornet
#

obviously it's going well

spark sinew
#

tbh idt you need eyja

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you also might want to kill phase 1 on the geyser

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so you can activate burst and your 2 amps sooner

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put on the eyja's tile facing right

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so fireballs will not go through her tile

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or something

leaden kraken
#

Arkchive's guide worked ❤️

spark sinew
#

oh no

leaden kraken
#

5th guide tried 😄

lapis hornet
#

arkchive goated youtuber

orchid talon
#

Holy fuck

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It’s over

lapis hornet
#

gg ez

orchid talon
#

Not sure what made the difference between NG surviving different eounds

spark sinew
#

see, easy stage

lapis hornet
#

m2 suzu m2 eyja rip

orchid talon
#

Tbh, felt kinda rng

empty hawk
#

gg.. if only i have at least nightingale or suzu i could complete it SkadiDaijoubu

orchid talon
#

I rolled suzu 4 days ago

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Super clutch pull

lapis hornet
#

it's not rng it's p deterministic

orchid talon
#

So her m3 is literally 6 hours away lool

lapis hornet
#

probs your timings

spark sinew
#

don't forget to say that we need harder event stages (if we'll have questionnaire)

orchid talon
#

It was just so painful to kill boss

spark sinew
#

you pulled suzu?
quite lucky

orchid talon
#

And watch trillby run me over

spark sinew
#

since idt she's on rateup

orchid talon
spark sinew
#

ah, nice

lapis hornet
#

honestly you'll be grateful for events.like these after too much easy stuff lul

leaden kraken
#

Miynar and Eyalter is the only two 6 star I do not have, yet nearly all guides use Miynar

vocal leaf
spark sinew
#

it's weird
like you always wish for harder stages

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...but then you actually play those harder stages

lapis hornet
#

i like this event

spark sinew
#

and i'm not sure if they're particularly enjoyable

lapis hornet
#

as a new player

orchid talon
#

Mlynar is the highest burst physical unit in game + he taunts to solve mechanics

#

This event is fun but idk how you do any clears without suzu+mlynar

lapis hornet
#

his taunt is 95% a minus lol

orchid talon
#

Those two units seem way too necessary

spark sinew
#

idt you even need ng

orchid talon
#

Not true, his taunt is really clutch on most super hard events

spark sinew
#

just don't put an operator in the line of fireballs

lapis hornet
#

you can do without mlynar some clears use qiubai

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mlynar is the easiest ya

spark sinew
#

you can do it without both ceobe and mly

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there's even 6 op without both

leaden kraken
#

Lol... every single guide for S-3 uses Miynar 😢

lapis hornet
#

if you're not worried about low op or anything think suzu is the hardest to replace

spark sinew
#

but yeah like every clear needs ceobe or qb (with usually +1 buffer) for the boss

lapis hornet
#

well

#

saria also clutch

orchid talon
#

For the s3 clear, Mlynar is just a fireball killer + baiter

lapis hornet
#

unless you're doing that exu clear lol

spark sinew
leaden kraken
#

I have line 0 of the new operators mastered tho. Sucks 😦

spark sinew
#

ifrit s2 qb
no mly no ceobe

lapis hornet
#

I'm told the qb 6 op is potgated

orchid talon
#

Also those clears prob require lvl 90 units

lapis hornet
#

but you can always add some units

orchid talon
#

Idk about you, but I’m level 97 with 0 lvl 90 ops

lapis hornet
#

I'm a new player only e2 is myrtle

leaden kraken
#

I wont have time to M3 Qubai and/or ceobe anyway, oh well

vocal leaf
spark sinew
#

it's about seeing how they do without mlynar for example

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and maybe take an "inspiration"

spark sinew
#

but then i remembered that every low op one just used ceobe or qb, so

#

you can use others, sure, but they won't be as effective

leaden kraken
#

I really do not like the new Eyalter... she is fairly new and nearly all guides use her instead of other healers....

spark sinew
#

because she's broken

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'member #help "she's just another healer, ez skip"? Bnuuy

leaden kraken
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And yet none of my friends share her, cant borrow M3

spark sinew
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gains on s1 are kinda bad

lapis hornet
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you don't need her rly tho

spark sinew
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i can share mine if you want

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well she certainly makes things easier

lapis hornet
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like she's nice but I've seen s3 with ptilo solo medic

orchid talon
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Kyostin guide doesn’t use eyjalter

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But honestly yea she helps a lot, throwing healing into the problem is a lot comfier

lapis hornet
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but this event p late game so can't expect guide makers to always stick to lowest common denominator

spark sinew
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i mean seeing it is one thing

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did you try to clear with ptilo as solo medic

lapis hornet
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think someone here did it

spark sinew
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i bet it would suck to replicate this if you were following a guide

orchid talon
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^

lapis hornet
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i don't have ptilo mod3 and never liked her much so

spark sinew
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mod3 ptilo Bnuuy

orchid talon
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Mod3 seems so unnecessary for her

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Like woo more stats lol

lapis hornet
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more stats is more stats

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it's like potgates

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v minimal paper dif that can be the difference between win and loss

leaden kraken
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Also, god I wish they put the M-level on the skill icon in the operator list...

vocal leaf
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why don’t watch other guides? i thought i was lost too when i saw most guides use ceobe to kill boss

spark sinew
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mix and match

orchid talon
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I will say, typhon in Kyos guide

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Does absolutely nothing lol

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He just uses her to break chains

spark sinew
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although more like, notice what they're using to answer some threats and see what ops you can get that do that

orchid talon
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You can use anyone for that, Texas, yato, etc

lapis hornet
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I hear it's just to clear coffins and fireballs

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I've seen chalter used for that

orchid talon
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Fireballs are solo’d by Mlynar

spark sinew
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i think kyo doesn't use typhon for anything except just breaking coffins

lapis hornet
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or sa like i did

spark sinew
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which is ehh, you can have a million ops for that

lapis hornet
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if you mlynar fireballs you can't mlynar p2

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see if you had mlynar clear the big fireball p2 might have been easier

spark sinew
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don't they have arts exodia for that

lapis hornet
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I'm just saying it's different options

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reedic also p good for clearing coffins tho

orchid talon
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Yeah reedic super good in this

leaden kraken
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Well, I've watched nearly every video I can find on youtube and all of them uses combinations of operators I've never cared about leveling....

orchid talon
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-30% arts fragility also strong

azure forge
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for p2 fireball SA or ines can deal with it?

orchid talon
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Prob not Ines

lapis hornet
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s3 uses p common units tho

leaden kraken
lapis hornet
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peepoweird

orchid talon
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My suzuran was m2 and spend the week leveling Ines and borrow Mlynar

spark sinew
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yeah s3 guides usually use exceptional ops

leaden kraken
orchid talon
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? Event is 2 weeks long that’s plenty of time to farm some materials

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You can also mix and match guides together, a lot of them use a similar core units

leaden kraken
orchid talon
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And boss lets you easily redeploy between phases

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I mean I have saria s3m2, and it worked fine, I had extra dps available

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I’m sure saria s3m1 is doable and should be enough

lapis hornet
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you do masteries for hard stages like these tho

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no?

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like why ng s2m3

leaden kraken
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ng?

orchid talon
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My NG is s3m2, honestly don’t think her skill level mattered that much

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Like my previous video, she died with it up either way, it’s more about timing and baiting correctly

lapis hornet
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it adds up you never know

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like I remember in poo saria mod1 to mod2 was the diff maker for me

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same in cc11

azure forge
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this happens when it comes to risk ~30

leaden kraken
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The amount of times I've seen NG S3 used in guides is like once before..... I generally use Kal or Shining, so why would I spend the huge amount of resources in M6ing NG? 😄

spark sinew
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why did you s2m3 her Bnuuy

orchid talon
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NG is more useful than shining 9/10 times