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jovial nest
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thus....NG

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or else Meltr's explosion will wipe anyone near

dark glade
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what

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it debuff

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ok that explain why my ceobe dmg sucks

karmic glade
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yeah, and it also stacks with saria and reedic

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it's a totally independent multiplier

signal lichen
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thats nice

neat skiff
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Boss is so overtuned people are legit overlapping 2-4 different buffs/debuffs at once.

signal lichen
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sounds balanced

thorn bluff
karmic glade
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I one tile melted the boss with saria S3 + reedic + suzu + volcano with ceobe

lapis hornet
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nothing new tbh

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just weird to see outside of cc

jovial nest
thorn bluff
karmic glade
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this is a candidate to replace CC, but it is even shittier than POO

jovial nest
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i mean

neat skiff
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Good news, it doesn't stick around 😄

jovial nest
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this was supposed to be the event's MAX risk.

signal lichen
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i'm not sure i am seeing it with this squad

jovial nest
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it's not even close to CC levels

signal lichen
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amyia s3 don't even have masteries

jovial nest
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its like a reverse CC concept

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pure vanilla is hardest

signal lichen
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and you don't have any of the e2's i have seen used

jovial nest
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so add your buffs and get minus score

dark glade
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i kinda hate the reward system

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you cant farm this like TFN right?

brave sun
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this is great event tho, its easier than CC

smoky halo
jovial nest
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lulz, farming TfN

neat skiff
brave sun
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but community hates it sadly

karmic glade
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speaking of bug is the Saga bug fixed in EN

smoky halo
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unironically i think shaw is the best pusher in toplane bc of her talent maybe weedy s2m3 is better

neat skiff
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Positive note. A3 + all T5 stages should put you at level 55. Level 56-65 are all 5k LMD.

dark glade
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locking reward behind giga inflated stats boss is just bad

jovial nest
brave sun
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thats a good point

smoky halo
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well the "buffs" are like +0.15sp ReedBean

jovial nest
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because NGL

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i looked at the Buffs

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they're shit

smoky halo
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feels very shit

neat skiff
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Plus the medals stop at A3 with no buffs.

smoky halo
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ya

karmic glade
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Saga used to be able to kill the boss when p1 die, and it make the boss trivial

smoky halo
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me when the buffs are useless anyway lmaocry

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maybe atkspd for medic is good

brave sun
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its very sad they didnt give this another try, with better buffs

smoky halo
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but like

jovial nest
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yeah you don't have to clear S stage for max medals

smoky halo
dark glade
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i look at the buff

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and like

jovial nest
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just that you might not get far in milestone rewards

dark glade
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'lava tile deal 50% less dmg'

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??? for what?

smoky halo
brave sun
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deals more dmg

signal lichen
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you will get far in the milestone rewards

brave sun
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yes sir 200 more hp gonna kill him

signal lichen
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the rewards trail off

brave sun
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its like killing cliff with vent dmg

smoky halo
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🤩

karmic glade
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after 55 they just decide to not think about reward and just give you pure lmd

smoky halo
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killing boss with lava dmg medal when

signal lichen
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25K total i think?

jovial nest
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this one's decent....but the only enemy that takes lava damage is Meltr

signal lichen
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less then half a days worth of lmd kek

smoky halo
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isnt it 50k?

karmic glade
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it almost seems like unfinished content HellaKek

smoky halo
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from lv55 to 65

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5k lmd each lv

signal lichen
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oh wait its 10 levels

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yeah your right

jovial nest
smoky halo
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ya useless

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1 day worth of base

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i sleepge

jovial nest
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POO and then DoS

neat skiff
jovial nest
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they went with the POO route which i like

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as long as they don't overinflate enemy HP

smoky halo
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they overinflate hp AND atk this time 🤩

neat skiff
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POO was honestly a good concept. Over 3 million health was not.

jovial nest
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yeah tell that to the new CC1 and CC2

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not much talk about it being toxic

smoky halo
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isnt poo just cc

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but reskinned ui

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or am i missing somthing

jovial nest
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it is but i like how you unlock risks and rewards

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plus

smoky halo
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isnt there unlocking in cc too?

karmic glade
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thank god there isn't a -90% or 1000% tag this time

smoky halo
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or no

neat skiff
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New CC is POO but like 6 months later.

dark glade
jovial nest
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POO's dailies are actually innovative and sometimes a LOT of fun

dark glade
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but is fun

jovial nest
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the concept of POO dailies having superbuffs and superrisks are nice

smoky halo
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IS is fun

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this shit isnt

karmic glade
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CC#2 is actually way easier, people can actually do max risk again

jovial nest
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speak for yourself

turbid badge
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Lol

smoky halo
jovial nest
karmic glade
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no, the highest is without the HP tag, because it is a independent multiplier

jovial nest
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ah

karmic glade
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but in CC#2 they changed it to additive

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for some reason

turbid badge
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amazi

signal lichen
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this is indeed a choice

dark glade
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lin shield still not breaking?

smoky halo
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lin shield wont brek

karmic glade
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there is a def- tag coming up, no one knows what stat would it have

jovial nest
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welp I'm going to do DoS when these releases. I'm finished for now since I cleared S-3

karmic glade
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if its like -200 than lin is dead

turbid badge
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yea

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LIK cooked

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Lin cooes

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Cooked

smoky halo
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shining lin tech time 🤩

dark glade
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supersonic cristmas tree on the loose :ya:

remote berry
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im stuck on a-3 everyones using goldenglow and spalter

fathom mesa
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Is gnosis going to be good in CC2

smoky halo
fathom mesa
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I saw him used in a few clears

jovial nest
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well his S3 does consistent freeze

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good way to remove dodge

karmic glade
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yeah, especially in guard specialist

dark violet
smoky halo
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use hool to silence 🤩

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dos wouldve been better if the buffs were impactful

jovial nest
smoky halo
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and not crumbs

jovial nest
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it's hilarious

smoky halo
jovial nest
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DoS in my experience is basically

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for best rewards and max clearing

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I ignore 1 and 2

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and ALL the buffs

dark violet
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yeah

jovial nest
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its like a speedrun

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it's VERY hilarious compared to how you use POO's systems and mechanics

dark violet
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it's like CC, but you don't unlock shit, just go straight to max risk and that's it

brave sun
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the problem is every one else does too

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even ppl who cant handle it lmao

jovial nest
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most people who don't read

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get to experience max risk versions of stages

lapis hornet
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po replaces what made cc fun with bloat tbh not rly my thing

jovial nest
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which will be a bad first impression

lapis hornet
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but ig you need bloat to justify increases dmg

jovial nest
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thats why new CC1 and CC2 use POO's mechanics

brave sun
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even if they do they are like pls i just need to clear 3

jovial nest
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except remove the bloat of MULTIPLE HP risks

brave sun
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and thats tragic

smoky halo
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i mean

jovial nest
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they have a good idea with POO. Just that they can't think of more risks other than more HP

smoky halo
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well true ig i went straight to a-3

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after being clapped for a few times i cleared a-2 first

jovial nest
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as for me who actually plan to clear the 3rd iteration of DoS stages...

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the issue is

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you REALLY will not bother with 1 and 2

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to avoid bad habits

brave sun
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that's fine by me

jovial nest
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and get to learn with the risks

dark violet
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yea

brave sun
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its for ppl to try things out like fib

jovial nest
dark violet
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the boss clapped me hard, I'll need to make an actual strategy later

jovial nest
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that's why I like POO (not max risk) and not DoS

smoky halo
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its for ppl with weak rosters

dark violet
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ceobe can still solo the first phase, but the mechanics require thinking

smoky halo
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getting clapped by the top diff

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i dont like how a-2 and a-3 gap is HUGE tho

lapis hornet
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what's the difference?

jovial nest
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thats why no one liked LE mechanics. One of the best ways to do that event is to not use lasers at all

brave sun
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i wonder who else did 2 difficulties

smoky halo
lapis hornet
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oh dang

smoky halo
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so i did a-2 in 1attempt

brave sun
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like he has to figure out what he needs to borrow

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instead of me who just want a 13th op

lapis hornet
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oyuki did guide for s2 he skipped s3 lol probs his viewers ain't gonna do it anyway

smoky halo
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i already knew who to borrow

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i saw high def

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CEOBE

jovial nest
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I'm just glad I got to clear A-3 without guide help

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S-3 made me look up one

signal lichen
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A 3 was a lot of fun without a guide for me

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even if it took forever

brave sun
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smh i cleared without guide

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go back and clear without guide nao

signal lichen
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S i am just like idt i care lol

smoky halo
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does watching silvergun's clear count as watching a guide MudrockNaruhodo

jovial nest
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yes

dark glade
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silvergun still malding at A

jovial nest
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any prior knowledge is a guide

smoky halo
jovial nest
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especially if you watched it 6 months ago

smoky halo
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he already did a-3 buffless

dark glade
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oh he done?

smoky halo
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he done in CN

signal lichen
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he plays cn

jovial nest
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has a video...

dark glade
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i watched the stream like 30 min ago

brave sun
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wait for real?

smoky halo
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he forgot how to recreate his clear DocSmile

dark violet
brave sun
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he baiting for views lmao

signal lichen
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if you forget how to do your own clear

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then do you use your video

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as a guide

dark glade
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its still A

smoky halo
jovial nest
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"it's not exactly looking up a guide if it's just me learning from my past self"

signal lichen
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exactly

smoky halo
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bc his cn clear was 13 ops

brave sun
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yeah thats true

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s3 clear is so far away

smoky halo
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s3 seems impossible for 4star only tbh

jovial nest
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i doubt you can do low rarity with S-3

smoky halo
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even with the "buffs"

vocal leaf
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can we get all rewards not clearing s-3? s-2 was the best i could do without half of the meta operators needed JessNotLikeThis

brave sun
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idk maybe 5 stars

jovial nest
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it's quite high up there in high risk CC comparisons imo

spark sinew
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he said s clear wasn't possible, no?

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without buffs

brave sun
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4 stars for sure not likely even with 1 6

signal lichen
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part of my problem then with this event or i suppose more so for new players is that they can't farm for rewards

brave sun
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but noone did a 5 star clear

signal lichen
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so there stuck fully missing out

spark sinew
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not like rewards are exceptional

smoky halo
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5k lmd 🤩

jovial nest
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i mean

neat skiff
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Even A3 buffless looks like micromanagement hell for 4 stars.

jovial nest
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compared to POO or CC

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yeah, not many avenues of getting more goods

spark sinew
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it's honestly better that people won't waste their time like with tfn

jovial nest
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since it's a milestone style

lapis hornet
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rewards suck anyway just get Cardi skin and bail

jovial nest
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instead of a mission-based style

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or shop style

dark glade
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next event is... anniv yes?

brave sun
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yo fib how's s1/s2/h12-4

jovial nest
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low rarity clears have always felt like micro hell ngl

dark glade
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i need cn farm sheet again

spark sinew
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there should be a d word probably

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since we preloaded some stuff

signal lichen
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ig i overly value the t5 mats

spark sinew
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oh wait it was awhile ago

dark violet
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I remember CC7 was one of my first events (third iirc), I couldn't even clear the dailies

signal lichen
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but its not that many

dark violet
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I did the strict minimum and bailed out, farming stuff

dark glade
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device and oriron pog

spark sinew
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anniversary is usually at the end? of april i thought

brave sun
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strict min? support squad and bail?

dark violet
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then anniv

smoky halo
dark glade
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is ch13 an event?

smoky halo
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s1 is uh

dark glade
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more like more dead week

spark sinew
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yes

smoky halo
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not going well

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i havent beaten phase 1 boss yet

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s1

spark sinew
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i mean recent new chapter events give a ton of stuff

jovial nest
spark sinew
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ch12 had 3mats/day thingy alongside pots etc

jovial nest
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nice amt of first clear rewards

dark violet
spark sinew
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this one has some missions

dark glade
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but do you farm mats in ch13?

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or just chip

jovial nest
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there's a new mat iirc

dark glade
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oh yea degen mats

jovial nest
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isn't it more like a new T4?

spark sinew
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1-7 or red certs or chips ye

jovial nest
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i forgot

spark sinew
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how big was degen module

glass monolith
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Are there some fucking RNG included in lava fissures? Why in half runs every live just fine and in half runs fissures damage start killing?

dark glade
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15% extra dmg iirc

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ask help

spark sinew
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you can probably just wait awhile for your own to get trust

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and borrow some whale one in the meantime

jovial nest
spark sinew
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too bad

jovial nest
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S-3's redep risk is really what made look up a solution. It's my kryptonite

signal lichen
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the neat trick is using the boss to do it for you

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thats a funny mechanic gotta say

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i love it tho

jovial nest
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That means killing the boss phase 1 well while killing the first 6 elites flawlessly

smoky halo
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oh yeah that mechanic was so useful

jovial nest
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I never ever considered to also let Maws eat Mlynar and Saria

smoky halo
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oh right u guys have mlynar lmaocry

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hes always targetted

signal lichen
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yes but no

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so

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you also have ng cages

dark glade
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its been like this from SL

neat skiff
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No doubt the boss is fully shift immune.

signal lichen
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its weight 8

smoky halo
jovial nest
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8 weight

signal lichen
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me seeing shaw get used on a3 4 stars clear

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with evrey enemy being omega weight

smoky halo
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have weight 2

jovial nest
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No wonder

smoky halo
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and do arts

signal lichen
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oh i thought they where way heavier

smoky halo
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shaw has 23 res from talent

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so unironically shaw is legit pick there

signal lichen
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i knew that he had good res

smoky halo
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even if ur not doing 4star only

jovial nest
signal lichen
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seems nice

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yeah all i saw was 8 weight boss

smoky halo
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yeah i copied that part of silvergun's clear lmaocry

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learning how to utilize shift properly is so hard

brave sun
deft badger
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@spark sinew sensei now u can be proud, QB in 12h s3m3 e2l80 LappDumb

sullen rover
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hauckindu is only proud of gg s2m3ers and eyjaberry s1m3ers

glass monolith
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Okay, I find out about funny effect from standing on funny tile LappDumb

sullen rover
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is he proud of ash s1m3ers too?

smoky halo
halcyon adder
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Easy when u copy

lapis hornet
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sapa dalao

deft badger
jovial nest
wide sail
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wait the ifrit beam kills ur own ops

sullen rover
deft badger
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yesss...

smoky halo
deft badger
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nope only she deserves m9

wide sail
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btw how do u survive the boss ranged attack without ng

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or killing the boss before it attacks

glass monolith
deft badger
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just destroy the balls

wide sail
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i mean the regular attack

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thge aoe fireball thingy

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after it eats the minion guys

jovial nest
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14 more days before I get Hoed

deft badger
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after he consumes his followers that ball gets even bigger

wide sail
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he has an autoattack too though right

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or am i tripping

jovial nest
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He does

deft badger
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yeah with his sword but doesn't do much

halcyon adder
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So any clear without ceobe?

wide sail
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it does alot to meSkadiDaijoubu

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idk stats but that shit 1 taps all my ranged ops

sullen rover
deft badger
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fireballs wipe everything not just ranged 😄

wide sail
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no i mean his other projectile attacik

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where he shoots a really fast ball

deft badger
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ahh ok saw him do once on a ranged op of mine, but thats just if there isn't something he can pull aggro on, melee ofc

signal lichen
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surely you have the pots and can copy the one on en rec BlitzSmile

wide sail
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i might use selector on shamare just to try tank with the atk debuff

vocal leaf
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this is good enough for me
i can’t do s-3 JessNotLikeThis

lapis hornet
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gg

lapis hornet
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i forgot to take aak but worked out anyway lol

karmic glade
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with your ops you can probably do S-3 if you borrow ceobe

lapis hornet
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no mlynar gone be tough for middle

signal lichen
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i think its possible for that account

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its gonna be extremely tight probably

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but possible

halcyon adder
lapis hornet
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I didn't ss end screen smh

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only one I have

limpid siren
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hi cake teach me how to play

lapis hornet
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ask sapa he taught me everything I know

limpid siren
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@halcyon adder teach me everything cake knows

halcyon adder
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He somehow used ifrit in this stage,too big of a dalao

halcyon adder
limpid siren
halcyon adder
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Also saga SagaHyperStare

modern plover
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Why saga RosThink

lethal dragon
limpid siren
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why not saga

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cake's old enough to not really give a shit about the meta people argue over every day

scarlet mortar
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did he try to pull off the phase 1 execution lmao

modern plover
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Did not think the bug will come to en lul

neat skiff
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Oh right, legit forgot Elysium also strips def.

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Elysium, Shamare and Skalter S3 mean Exu can kill Melta.

glass monolith
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Why fucking boss summons have more DEF than boss who known for having fuck ton of DEF already

modern copper
lapis hornet
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the what bug

modern copper
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Everything dies

lapis hornet
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i used saga to stall a couple units like red katana and croc

modern copper
timid nexus
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This stage was super hard jeez took me all day trying to get the last one

glass monolith
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I LOVE WHEN CHAIN SURVIVE ON 1 HP AND ENTIRE ROSTER FUCK OFF INSTEAD UNCHAIN HIM

neat skiff
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Yeah, I'm legit about ready to give up on arts and go physical. See how things go in like 27 hours after masteries are finished baking.

silent mica
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Can anyone cook me a squad for A-3

modern plover
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Any brick builded?

glass monolith
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I achieved nothing... Outside small shame after realizing I didn't equip Saria module

lapis hornet
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minus op

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friston carry fr

void terrace
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Yeetus

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This could have been 9 oped

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But I'm not optimizing this to sciels clear fml

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This felt reasonably comfortable, and mostima just slowing the nuclear orbs was very chill

sullen rover
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is the lowest possible op count for DOS potgated?

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only did an 8 op

lapis hornet
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you did?

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what a dalao

halcyon adder
sullen rover
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lowest is like 6 right?

lapis hornet
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doesn't sciel have everything pot6

void terrace
void terrace
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Need a vid of the clear?

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Just refer to sciels guide honestly

cosmic thicket
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6 for S-3 no buff

sullen rover
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im not sure if its potgated or not

cosmic thicket
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with buff there's a 5 op

void terrace
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I threw in saileach most and surtr for comfort

halcyon adder
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Nah just was wondering if I should give flags their mods

void terrace
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It's kinda bad

cosmic thicket
void terrace
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I use it for exealter

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And memes which require block counf

lapis hornet
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mod doesn't seem to do anything lmao

sullen rover
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8 ops basically required zero pots and no lvl 90s
but im not sure if 6 ops are different CeobeConfused

lapis hornet
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only units I don't even have mod1

void terrace
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Turns exealter into 3 block juggernaut with a loooooot of sustain

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3 enemies or 2 stainless tirrets

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Make his survivability spike through the roof

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I love making my enimities tanks

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Don't ask

lapis hornet
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sus

sullen rover
glass monolith
void terrace
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.

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Behold this monstrosity of a team that lets pennance tank h114 steam knight

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I am trying to make pennance tank h-12 4

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Soon

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Sooooon

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Eyja s1 isn't enough to deal with the ele dmg

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Perhaps eyja s2

celest bluff
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A disturbing lack of skalter def buff

dark violet
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I think I finally figured out a squad positioning that survives the first phase

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I still haven't figured how to kill the shieldguard sadly

spark sinew
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just point a marksmen on it

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(phase1)

dark violet
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wouldn't it deal nothing?

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too much defense

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woop, I instantly exploded after that

spark sinew
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i assume the problem were the whisps

ancient hearth
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A-3 really giving me that ptsd from d15 emergency deep cognition

dark violet
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instead of taxes

ancient hearth
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the fire wisps from his first stage transition are really weak, any good aa sniper will kill them

dark violet
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oh

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I'll try this then

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maybe I don't need warfarin

ancient hearth
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A-3 the real bosses are the 2 elite companion guards

dark violet
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yeah...

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I think I know what I'll do for that

ancient hearth
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hoshi....

dark violet
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the good old specter combo with gladiia

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no, hoshi folds

ancient hearth
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I had hoshi with module, still needs a lot of healing but will survive

neat skiff
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To hold the boss?

dark violet
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the guards

celest bluff
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The elite

ancient hearth
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no, the red companion guards

neat skiff
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Oh, yeah. they're spicy.

dark violet
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silence actually useful here? shocked

ancient hearth
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there are guides on yt for a-3 afk where hoshi can tank the companions

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so, there's proof that it works

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she'll need healing from at least one good single target source though

dark violet
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alright, kroos wasn't fast enough and it all blew up

dark violet
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mine barely survives one and still dies

ancient hearth
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.....you need something shooting it ofc

dark violet
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I'll keep with specter for that

ancient hearth
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normal would be something like typhon or rosa since they'll prioritize the companion

dark violet
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typhon just keeps attacking the boss

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she never targets the guard

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typhon s3 or s2?

ancient hearth
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s2

dark violet
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damnit

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the support uses s3

ancient hearth
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this is what I've seen as the typical stall strat

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gg S2 so it can reach over and hit the companion guard

dark violet
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no GG, no saria, no typhon I can use

ancient hearth
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saria last deploy

dark violet
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maybe I need to develop eyjalter too

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s1?

ancient hearth
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yes

dark violet
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guess I should mastery it

ancient hearth
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it's a stall, not a burst

versed arrow
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slvl7 works enough for this stage

ancient hearth
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any caster that can reach over and hit over hoshi is fine

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or something lik schwarz S3M3 that can punch through his defense

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you can replace saria with nearl, it just need to be a last deployed healing defender because they have innate res, makes stalling the shadow blades and boss phase 1 much easier

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and last deployed to get hit by the bosses bind

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and have some AoE op covering her but not in the surround 4 tiles

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to damage the boss and clear the bind at the same time

spark sinew
#

oh it's not afk

#

i was gonna ask if ng at sl7 was enough for afk

ancient hearth
#

S2?

dark violet
#

redeploy schwarz time

ancient hearth
#

probably? I just took S3 because that's what I had masteries for

#

But as long as you don't deploy in a roughly 2 square radius of your last deployed staller (in this case saria) you should be fine

#

because that's roughly the radius of the explosion

#

i honestly just brought schwarz to buff typhon

abstract zenith
#

Just finished s3 and I literally feel like I escaped a torture chamber

neat skiff
#

A3 with no buffs is the equivalent of risk 18. S3 is higher than that and your total reward is 50k LMD.

spark sinew
#

a3 felt way way harder than r18

ancient hearth
#

for those of us that played IS3 d15, this is normal floor 5/6 cbt session

#

a3 is literally deep cognition....but with only 2 companion guards

#

instead of like 125

spark sinew
#

deep cog you can just not block the guards and cycle blocks

little orchid
#

r18 sounds about right... the strat isn't too hard to figure, but i just keep missing one timing

abstract zenith
#

Depends on is3 d15 run, some runs with right relics I facerolled boss

spark sinew
#

they're also several times squishier in f15

ancient hearth
#

what's the defense on the damn thing?

#

I swear it has to be at least 2.5k or something, mlynar tickles it

#

before I decide to stall I was doing schwarz + mlynar + typhon S3 and the thing just refused to die

glass monolith
neat skiff
#

So, arts is better in basically every stage of this event.

ancient hearth
#

not really.....

neat skiff
#

Ceobe is basically god in it.

ancient hearth
#

Ceobe is good

trim flare
#

Does lappland silence the big shield guys in A3?

spark sinew
#

yeah it's an event to shill arts
also the lava pool even buffs it

ancient hearth
#

arts is a lot simpler, but the real need is a monstrous amount of stall power

#

either hoshi with a hospital ward behind her

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or ines/suzuran/and co

neat skiff
#

Gotta love S3. Goof'd up? Half your ops are now dead, the boss has 6k def and a 10k arts shield.

trim flare
#

My only stall is spalter, and that isnt enough either

#

maybe gavial alter, but dps check not enough

ancient hearth
#

S3 is an ines check

#

u no have ines?

#

suffer as this wither maw with an hp pool probably in the 100k range eats your units

trim flare
#

I quit like after reed alter, and came back this event so I missed alot of operators

glass monolith
#

She is not mandatory but most brain dead opening

ancient hearth
#

ines on banner atm

wide sail
#

bagpipe s3 +def op

neat skiff
#

Max Mlynar + Suzu S3 is enough for the maw dudes.

ancient hearth
#

too bad horn and stainless don't see any use this event

trim flare
glass monolith
#

I just slapped QB on top middle lane look donw at end to brrrrrrrrr phase 2 of boss and casters

trim flare
#

I beat A-1 and A-2, A-3 I die when the boss goes in second phase, my dps isnt enough even with typhon friend

dark violet
#

I'm starting to see a way

#

he's beginning to believe

ancient hearth
#

real boss of the events:
A-3: Comparion guards
S-3 that stupid bladehelm

dark violet
#

phase 2 KeiichiSweat

glass monolith
wide sail
#

what spalter for

trim flare
#

to stall with her skill

#

bandaid fix SkadiDaijoubu

dark violet
#

mmmh, not bad

wide sail
#

doesnt look like shes using her skill any time soonSkadiDaijoubu

ancient hearth
dark violet
#

maybe if I had m3 schwarz

wide sail
#

lvl90 mod3m3 typhon with xmod2 schwarz can 1 cycle phase 1 diablo

#

which is pretty nice

dark violet
#

I could undeploy splatter after that point actually

glass monolith
dark violet
#

dropping skadi earlier so ceobe doesn't die so fast

ancient hearth
wide sail
#

wait actuallky i forgot specter exist

glass monolith
wide sail
#

maybe i can use her to survive the vore phase

dark violet
#

for A3, splatter just survives the full force of phase transition while chained

neat skiff
#

Remember that vore = instant redeploy.

wide sail
#

the boss doesnt shoot fireball autoattack if blocked right

neat skiff
#

In phase 2 part 2, correct.

dark violet
#

oh wow, so dropping skadi would really solve the problems

#

I'll try that then

wide sail
#

maybe my brain is cooked but i might try tank fireballs with specter blockingBnuuy

dark violet
#

also swapping to schwarz mod y, didn't use redeploy

ancient hearth
#

10 once I finally get all the rocc for silence

trim flare
#

Is ptilo and warfarin enough for a-3 or should I be levelling different operators like shining?

dark violet
#

so far it looks like perfumer is enough HellaKek

neat skiff
#

Yup.

lapis hornet
#

exu for the 0 def dudes I assume?

neat skiff
#

Shamare isn't enough, but with Elysium and Skalter S3 she is the boss killer.

lapis hornet
#

oh

#

buff army

halcyon adder
#

Ya

#

Hyperbuffed exu

dark violet
#

I was lied to

#

the boss just exploded when blocked

neat skiff
#

good if you're one of those holdouts from 3 years ago that has only built physical ops and no arts ops.

neat skiff
#

2 different mechanics.

halcyon adder
#

It also doesn't use ng and ines

dark violet
#

might just be normal attack I guess

#

one shot everything though

lapis hornet
#

that's p sick ngl

neat skiff
#

One shot everything is not the auto attack. It's the phase 2 fireball.

lapis hornet
#

I thought exu wouldn't have the dmg to punch through the def

halcyon adder
#

Exu just said nah I'd win

orchid talon
#

Bro those last two adds on A-3 is fucked up

halcyon adder
#

Same

orchid talon
#

The ones that go to the right side

dark violet
halcyon adder
#

But with power of friendships

lapis hornet
#

lol

orchid talon
#

How do I stop these guys 💀

neat skiff
lapis hornet
#

ig news of exus death were greatly exaggerated

#

what does kaze do tho

neat skiff
#

Waifu.

halcyon adder
#

Kinda a dps

dark violet
#

I guess I should drop a vanguard bait first, then drop skadi

halcyon adder
#

A sa or quibai would be better there tho

dark violet
#

wait, better, let splatter until phase 2, then after the fireball drop skadi

neat skiff
#

The fireballs keep happening. It's why people kill the boss quickly.

dark violet
#

well that was my penultimate try

lapis hornet
#

maybe everyone in jp is kaze simp

#

look at oto

dark violet
#

but if I drop skadi later, it should work

neat skiff
#

Wait... Are you seriously relying on Perfumer regen to hold the boss and not a single other source of healing?

dark violet
#

yeah, it's enough

#

my only issue is getting one shot

neat skiff
#

You have an admirable amount of optimism.

dark violet
#

I mean, I was almost there

#

got the best charting for this part I think

#

only some details to solve for phase 2 and it should work

celest bluff
#

How marksman holding on now

dark violet
#

trapmaster gaming? is that a new op

neat skiff
#

Ela.

dark violet
#

which is

celest bluff
#

I will be damn if they start making air units with so much def that marksman can't do shits

neat skiff
#

Super limited coming in like 6 months.

dark violet
#

oh, so the name is just ela?

neat skiff
#

Yes.

dark violet
#

ela and dorothy squad letsgo

#

solving dorothy's weakness

celest bluff
dark violet
#

not having another dorothy

celest bluff
#

Okay fair

dark violet
#

also anti air

neat skiff
#

What weakness? Dorothy has binds or arts damage map wide.
Ela literally cannot do any damage outside of her autoattacks.

#

They do drastically different things.

celest bluff
#

Read the above

celest bluff
dark violet
#

I love dorothy, but her traps don't do shit against flying enemies

celest bluff
#

Oh but she do a lot of shit against flyer by herself

#

Not much, but it is possible

dark violet
#

ye, hence the first weakness

celest bluff
#

So HG boss trend from now on

#

Damage reduction

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CC effect immune

neat skiff
#

Ela mines also don't work on flying enemies.

#

Both need to rely on auto attacks.

dark violet
#

I need to read what she does

#

but if it's a new cn, we don't have a clean tl right?

#

alright, next step is going well

neat skiff
#

She debuffs enemies with her mines, that deal 0 damage, and has a crit chance talent.

#

They combine so Ela is like a marksman but doesn't prioritise air.

dark violet
#

mmmh, what went wrong was that the boss does an aoe attack before the fireball

#

also I needed to bait the aoe

#

if ceobe survives, it would be enough

raven agate
#

Are there any ops that can 1v1 mandragora on stage 9-19?

glass monolith
#

1v1 no, 1+harem of medics v 1 - yes

raven agate
fathom mesa
glass monolith
#

Well - pretty much anything which heals good

raven agate
#

Nevermind. I didnt know that.

little orchid
#

excuse me, what the fuck? are we supposed to fight in a tiny space like thisFiaStare

lapis hornet
#

kill them before they kill you

#

ez pz

neat skiff
#

Better hurry.

glass monolith
little orchid
#

this is gonna take some malding...

neat skiff
#

A-3 is the equivalent of risk 18. the S stages are all tuned above that.

glass monolith
#

Tier of mald : Try to find youtube video of S-3 WITHOUT Mlynar HellaKek

celest bluff
#

Watch clears from 3 years ago hit me with "damn, we have mlynar now"

dark violet
#

RingOfPainFrogChamp it's happening

#

I learned how to bait the attacks

#

sadly ceobe must die

#

YEEEES

#

perfumer carry baby

spark sinew
#

how long did it take

dark violet
#

everything

#

lol, I'd say maybe a few hours?

#

actually,mmh

#

around 2 hours

stray finch
#

Am I the only one who thinks that DoS A3 is fucking r*****ed as shit?

neat skiff
stray finch
#

Risk what?

glossy wolf
#

hmmmm

#

calculatable

#

old cc is dead ; new ccs uses point values for tags

#

comparable w/ POO tags

dark violet
neat skiff
#

POO 620 score.

dark violet
neat skiff
#

The point where any and all proper rewards stop and it's just a pittance of LMD.

stray finch
dark violet
#

I'll skip on the pain a bit

neat skiff
#

Level 55 should be A3 and all 5 T stages.

dark violet
#

oh

#

so S can be completely skipped

neat skiff
#

Level 56-65 is what S3 gives.

#

50k LMD and no medals.

dark violet
#

incredible

#

no more pain

#

I've been freed

#

perfumer saved me

glass monolith
neat skiff
#

No. you're stuck with the knowledge you took the "risk 19+" challenge because the devs poorly communicated what it meant.

glass monolith
#

Hey i took r22 cc9 and r27 cc11 and r25 cc12 on my free will HellaKek

#

cc10 was r18, because i didn't want to be near that cannon more than i need to

dark violet
#

then you took S3 on your free will too

glass monolith
#

S-3 was take youtube and then brute force circle into square hole

dark violet
#

S3 for me was:

spice quest
#

Uhhh, why is it targeting Ines instead of the shield ? I placed it before he casted the fireball. Is it different from Nightingale summons ?

neat skiff
#

The shield has no taunt.

spice quest
#

Really ?

neat skiff
#

Best it can do is last deployed.

dark violet
#

Or is it not the case

neat skiff
#

Wait, yeah. Fireball is operator with taunt > last placed op > blue box.

spark sinew
#

yeah shield has taunt

spice quest
#

I could have sworn I placed it at the right time

neat skiff
#

Because it's not her talents, skills or module.

heady sphinx
#

Literally right here

dark violet
#

only shown on the unit trait I guess

neat skiff
#

Fucking summon traits.

spice quest
heady sphinx
dark violet
#

oh, that's nice

spark sinew
#

i think all taunts are the same yeah

spice quest
dark violet
#

a new info for summons

spark sinew
#

at least for operators

neat skiff
#

But yeah, the game tells you it targets operators.

#

Not units.

dark violet
#

Yostar moment

spark sinew
#

oh? weird, i could swear everyone has the same taunt

neat skiff
#

Yeah, taunt is taunt. But taunt is lower than custom targeting.

#

Like marksman snipers can ignore enemy taunt to attack air targets, or deadeye ignore taunt to target lowest def.

#

Extinction (the fireball attack) ignores units and their taunt, and only cares about operators.

heady sphinx
#

Blocked unit > Special Priority > Taunt > Last deployed > Negative Taunt

grizzled gust
#

I didn't know that damn

dark violet
#

some abilities at least

neat skiff
#

Yup.

#

It's annoying and inconsistent.

dark violet
#

so it's more like Special Special Priority > Blocked unit > Special Priority > Taunt > Last deployed > Negative Taunt

heady sphinx
#

Only time that isn't the case is when ranged ally units are blocking

#

unless I'm forgetting some weird ability

dark violet
#

well, the recent example of fireball ability

neat skiff
#

Yeah, fireball/extinction only cares about operators.

grizzled gust
#

Would be nice if taunt worked also on melee enemy attacks

#

They just walk the whole map to get to the taunt

dark violet
#

was that the CC12 boss?

#

close, at least

#

in RA, mobs will do that to any op (with a radius)

grizzled gust
#

Idk if someone tried making the cc12 boss sprint around the map

novel robin
#

is there any other operator than lappy and s1 texalter that can disable enemy special ability

foggy sparrow
#

Anyone know how to deal with the flames sverdmeltr shits out when he hits phase 2? When that happens they just wipe my defense and I die. Not using any buffs btw.

foggy sparrow
dark violet
novel robin
dark violet
#

random splatter in the corner to get all the balls away

foggy sparrow
#

Do they only target last deployed?

dark violet
#

yes

foggy sparrow
#

HOLY SHIT!!!

#

I actually have spalter so I can do this too

dark violet
#

with perfumer (and gladiia ofc), she was able to tank the full barrage and survive

foggy sparrow
#

Im just gonna use her immortality

dark violet
#

that works too

#

I changed the flow so she wouldn't get chained as well, to redeploy easily later

foggy sparrow
#

Also I figured out you can wipe phase 1 with just ifrit cuora and a healer

dark violet
#

ceobe s2 does it too

foggy sparrow
#

I forgot about her

dark violet
#

ceobe is just cracked against the boss

foggy sparrow
#

She was my savior in pinchout

muted field
#

Not a single guide video helps me, I've already spent the whole day and almost half the night. How to get through A3?

foggy sparrow
dark violet
#

the shield, or invis

foggy sparrow
#

Shield

dark violet
dark violet
#

and perfumer for healing

#

and to kill them I went for schwarz s3

glossy wolf
#

it's painful if you don't have the ops in the guides.

#

they used it you don't have it . idk

#

you don't have reedic or ceobe

dark violet
#

my final clear of it. Typhon retargets to the shields when the boss goes away after phase 2 happens

azure forge
#

A-3 you dont really need reedic or ceobe

glossy wolf
#

were you trying to clear A3?

#

i thought you were doing s3

#

just tank them up. are you trying to brute force as well the dublin guard?

novel robin
glossy wolf
#

90k hp 2k def 70 res knock yourself out

dark violet
#

schwarz managed to brute force them fairly well.

glossy wolf
#

doyou have these ops

#

guess not.

dark violet
#

are you talking to me?

glossy wolf
#

no.

#

we global server players have the ability to foresee the future events. when new banner drops maybe it's better to check future events clear guide vids to see if these ops are used or not. then decide if you want to pull a certain op or not.

glass monolith
glossy wolf
#

It seems a bit double standard to me when someone didn't have said ops yet tries to follow a guide that uses exactly these ops. Oh but i don't have them rip.

foggy sparrow
#

The absolute state of arknights players

glossy wolf
#

or knock yourself out trying to figure out cc18 clear w/ whoever you have. i respect that.

glossy wolf
foggy sparrow
#

I havent

#

Not ONCE

glossy wolf
#

have you cleared s3

dark violet
foggy sparrow
#

Im on A3

glossy wolf
#

i respect that. but the process is painful and frustrating.

foggy sparrow
#

Your not even playing the game at that point if your just braindead following guides

#

Thats my philosophy

dark violet
#

I don't want to do it every event, but I love having that one map that makes me do a progressive clear

glossy wolf
#

disagree. i'm not forcing you to watch a guide

#

you're not converting me into never wanting to watch a guide ever again. fair game?

dark violet
#

like I did for A3, just throw the main squad at it, see what sticks, replace if things don't work, when there's a working principle appearing, refine it step by step if it seems doable, or throw it away

little orchid
foggy sparrow
#

Fair!

dark violet
#

and the culmination after 2 hours when you found a thin solution in the labyrinth of dead ends, finally performing it and winning

#

that's priceless

#

perfumer carry

glossy wolf
#

i do not enjoy the process when it doesn't give any positive feedback.

wide sail
#

watching guides is fair enough but u have to admit to yourself when you do that you have no interest in solving the problem whatsoever anymore

glossy wolf
#

makes me hate the mode; not everyone has the mental power to challenge top risk level cc.

foggy sparrow
muted field
# dark violet you'll have to explain what you tried, because just looking at what you have you...

Goldenglow support or Typhon.

If you mean my operators, Nightingale, Whisperain and Ptilopsis, Saria, Rosa, Saileach, Ines, various defenders and healers. (even tried to tank using Silverash)

Surtr. Yato to remove the debuff.

Kal'tsit, Hool'heyak, Ebenholz, Passenger deal little or insufficient damage to elite enemies.

Pramanix, Aak and Warfarin didn't help either. Nearl alter perform not bad, but I always fail to stop the elites in the end.

glossy wolf
#

as a student i copy other's solution. as a doctor i do the exact same thing.

dark violet
glossy wolf
#

i do not find that shameful.

dark violet
little orchid
#

jess2 s3 shield should tank the shield guys just fine, just kill them with ceobe then

foggy sparrow
dark violet
#

I know it'll go to the side of not being fun since it locks away too many strategies

#

all the intended content needs to be doable with solo perfumer

neat skiff
wide sail
#

the stats are a little crasy on this one but i still think its clearable with my squad

#

im too stupipd for this though

foggy sparrow
#

Atleast its not pinchout

#

That was the worst event arknights ever done by a long shot

neat skiff
#

Nah

trim flare
#

Do people use gg s2 or 3 in A3? I havent really noticed much impact with gg

neat skiff
#

To the point new CC is based on pinch out.

wide sail
#

pinch out wasnt that bad unless u were trying to clear insane risk

glossy wolf
#

1000% HP how do you like that

little orchid
#

i'm not sure why people say dos is easier than day1 POO, when dos is harder by like 5 risks

trim flare
#

I havent put any mastery in s2 damnit xD guess Ill have to

neat skiff
glossy wolf
#

idk. how much is 1000% hp worth?

foggy sparrow
# neat skiff Nah

I LOVE STALLING FOR 2 HOURS! I LOVE GLOBAL RANGE MULTI-HITTING ENEMIES WITH 10K HP AND RIDICULOUS ATTACK!!!!

trim flare
#

My reaction vs that stupid mage boss in is4

foggy sparrow
#

Actually it was more like 100k hp

glossy wolf
#

10K? it's 1.75M

foggy sparrow
neat skiff
#

Or are you just complaining because you saw a video of the handful of people who actually did it?

glossy wolf
#

he's being sarcastic .

dark violet
neat skiff
#

Even with stacking you could plan it out most of the risk is in enemies you leak.

dark violet
#

yea

neat skiff
#

All the common strats involved buffing the 2 mechs and then dealing with the stage, retreating everyone and leaking said mechs.

muted field
neat skiff
#

Followed by people still bitching about it to this day.

dark violet
#

I think what I did was just super buffing dorothy instead, and leaking her

#

having ceobe means the bots weren't as scary

neat skiff
#

Even though it was such a success it is the method future CC is using, just not as busted for max risk that less than 0.1% of players even attempt.

little orchid
#

my roster couldn't survive the attack risk, so i resorted to 1000% stalling. still, didn't take longer than 30 minutes to kill all three

dark violet
#

after PO, it just made us realize how barren CC was

#

even though CC was pretty nice already

foggy sparrow
#

Higher risks legit felt unbeatable with the gunner bots and those fucking dogs at the beginning.

dark violet
#

and DOS just confirms it, by having no interaction, needing to not use anything to clear it

foggy sparrow
#

This new event is much better compared to pinchout

foggy sparrow
#

The only ranged unit is the boss in its phase 2.5

dark violet
#

the boss has map wide abilities

#

in both phases

foggy sparrow
#

Phase 1 only has the bindings which are easy to deal with.

#

Lowish HP + low damage overtime

#

And theres a sizable delay between each one

dark violet
#

the problem is that you're comparing PO to A3, which isn't the final difficulty for DOS

#

I'd say clear S3 first to really know the difference

foggy sparrow
#

K then

muted cliff
#

poo was a lot harder in my experience

spark sinew
#

pinchout didn't have an enemy that sniped you at the start

#

unless you took a very optional risk

#

and even then the damage wasn't even that big i think

muted cliff
#

poo was more of a mlynar and sustain check

#

but some of the tags force to change ur strat

dark violet
#

the point of CC/PO risks is that you can choose which risk is too hard to deal with and NOT take it

muted cliff
#

dos is whole squad check

dark violet
#

DOS is just, max CC, you don't get a choice

muted cliff
#

s3 stage was more like a risk 27 but yeah

#

a3 can be quite painful but is around the risk 22 area

foggy sparrow
dark violet
#

and in this event, they also had S

foggy sparrow
dark violet
#

that's the reason I didn't take any of the range upgrades, and avoided too many atk upgrades

foggy sparrow
#

On low risk it wasnt an issue obviously but it made high risk absolutely painful.

dark violet
#

it makes no sense to complain about specific risks when you have the choice

turbid badge
#

Ceobe eats

#

Fav operators

#

ceobe suzu mostima qb eyja!

#

Reed too

#

ifrit

spark sinew
foggy sparrow
foggy sparrow
dark violet
#

even high risk has a decent amount of leeway

#

if you go for max risk, then it's your choice and not part of the intended content

stray finch
#

So correct me if I'm wrong, but...... without Shining and Nightingale (or Eyja Alt) it's impossible to clear a3, right?

#

Because not enough healing?

neat skiff
#

Warfarin S1 can do a lot of healing.

leaden root
#

Anyone have Qiubai Skill3 and m3 in support? I need to borrow her for DOS S3.

dark violet
#

just need a working strategy

neat skiff
dark violet
#

definitely yeah, exploit the tools

little orchid
neat skiff
#

If you have Lumen built he can also shit out a lot of healing.

#

Plus since it's all elemental damage and no status effects S3 is a perma boost.

#

I would say Quercus, but very few people have her built.

dark violet
#

I got to enjoy her a lot during her trust squad era

#

that was before the module too

#

hidden epic healer