strategy

[dark glade]

Because boss scale with risk

It still perma 95 res

Because healing is only -5 res

i hear this from twitch chatter please confirm

[vital arrow]

danger level is only for hp/atk/def

[scarlet fulcrum]

The sss scaling doesn't work like that

[vital arrow]

and it only applies for newly spawned mobs

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah like kerf said

[vital arrow]

it doesnt scale currently existing mobs

[dark glade]

Ooh

I still cant damage it unless i full charge mlynar

[vital arrow]

1950 def

[dark glade]

Gg and eyja also deal close to 0 dmg

[scarlet fulcrum]

The thing is boss has trash atk, so just stall if u want ignore mechanic

[vital arrow]

thats why you outheal the thingies

you get cleanse item

and you reduce their def/res

I just run eyjaberry anyways

[dark glade]

Yea i just run eyjaberry anyway

[scarlet fulcrum]

Cleanse item useful if no therapist or smt

[dark glade]

But compared to thomas, lighthouse is soooo sloooow

[scarlet fulcrum]

But like even without it, stalling is ez af

The mobs slow here yeah, maybe cause the elemental dmg mobs

[vital arrow]

the only tricky stage is

floor 5

[scarlet fulcrum]

So they went with gentle wave

[vital arrow]

because of the unblockable fucks

[deft badger]

don't be like naga its not xD

[foggy grove]

you can block the mud or just uh cc

[scarlet fulcrum]

Actually its easy if u go with three blocker

[vital arrow]

oh wait yeah yyou can run a melee op

[scarlet fulcrum]

Or CC device

[vital arrow]

I just handicapped myself and run a pure ranged comp

[ivory nimbus]

Can Irene function as a carry in SSS?

[spark sinew]

wtf

i just put some random 20 melee ops and first tried it
why do you guys hate yourself

[deft badger]

yes vs thomas

[spark sinew]

are you borrowing irene

there are better carries

[vital arrow]

just borrow a penance

give her like 1 defender/4 vanguard stack

[deft badger]

i wanna see how u done hard thomas with penance they are r- my penance

[spark sinew]

i just leaked it on cm

[ivory nimbus]

I mean, in general, which op are the consistent carry in SSS, as I can just ask someone to be a long-term friend.

[vital arrow]

mlynar

penance

[deft badger]

and not trolling right now btw i really wanna see it since seems i am to stupid for it... 😄

[vital arrow]

gavialt

exalt

[spark sinew]

because mlynar was at the bottom

stage is not threatening even if you're missing all your carries

[vital arrow]

mizuki

ironically

slap him with like 4-5 guard stacks

and he'll oneshot a lot of stuff

[ivory nimbus]

Exalter it is.

[spark sinew]

don't you have exalter

[deft badger]

u can do thomas hard and normal with irene she works even better then mlynar just camp mid block top and right side with 4 block spam the hell out of her

see born bring eyja alter with u and don't care about anything

[ivory nimbus]

No, lost to Saga.

[spark sinew]

yeah he's a good borrow

also even if you stack defender stacks on him, he greatly benefits

[dark glade]

I can support this

I just 4 stack defender 1 vg

[vital arrow]

I just slap exalt with 2defender/3vg

[turbid badge]

just use skalt

[deft badger]

ok, confirmed i am stupid ... 8 hours thomas hard for me, didn't have a solution
used mlynar in the end mid camp, to to use my penance or exec properly

[turbid badge]

I used suzu

[deft badger]

normal she did work well but hard, she was doing like nothing -.-

like most of my ops, done nothing on hard

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah suzu+dps works well even on CM

I mean emergency

[spark sinew]

what, why

[deft badger]

for me it just didn't work -.-

spend 8 hours on it like moron

[spark sinew]

what, how

you can even just leak the boss

[deft badger]

i don't know don't ask me... i was doing hard for 8+ hours

[spark sinew]

he doesn't really do that much damage

[deft badger]

they have been my biggest problem

that i didn't know how to hold right side properly and was trying and trying

slapped just mlynar in the middle at the end

and was spamming

when i see that and what they have been talking about 10min ago i have done probably something wrong as well since my mobs have been unkillable

[cyan gorge]

5 block Exealter goes hard on that map

[scarlet fulcrum]

I even forgor that mob exist lmao

[ivory nimbus]

Yeah, I don't know what the heck I'm doing in SSS.

[smoky halo]

stack 5vg on exec

press skill

ez

well for laterano themed sss u want 3vg 2def

[ivory nimbus]

Right, I'll wait for my Exalter friend, then I'll try figuring it out.

[turbid badge]

u can leak thomas?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea

[spark sinew]

yes

[smoky halo]

uh

a bit late

but do u need him

i have a free slot

[spark sinew]

i have a pleb one without pots

[ivory nimbus]

Already got an Exalter.

[smoky halo]

aight

[spark sinew]

although yeah, better add fibro

[ivory nimbus]

[smoky halo]

mine is just pot1 too

[spark sinew]

unless you're switching to 252

[smoky halo]

also just lv80

[spark sinew]

inb4 not mod3

[deft badger]

whats with u and pot0 ops all the time fibri... 😄

[smoky halo]

ofc its mod3

hes s3m3 mod3

[smoky halo]

im a new player

joined MH

[spark sinew]

amigo is on the way, fibri

[smoky halo]

[deft badger]

like someone cares about pots...

[spark sinew]

some pots are very impactful

still not impactful enough to sac 4 other new units obviously

but still

like bag back in the day

or mly

[ivory nimbus]

No, and I'm almost done with upgrading everything.

[spark sinew]

i know you're a lost case, dw

[deft badger]

like what pot 4 mlynar?

[spark sinew]

the atk thingy on him

[deft badger]

guess has something to do with his talent

but who the hell cares xD

[spark sinew]

yeah he scales insanely

[deft badger]

btw i meant i see only fibri talking about pots all the time 😄

[spark sinew]

especially in some events that also amplify the damage/smth similar

like eyjalter for example

[deft badger]

that's why i asked whats with him and pots

[spark sinew]

it's actually disgusting

[smoky halo]

pot0

[ivory nimbus]

Better reinforcing that understanding than let it get twisted up somewhere along the line.

[smoky halo]

just means i dont own the op

so when i say pot0 mlynar i mean i dont have mlynar

[deft badger]

ahhh ok... 😄

now it makes sense

saw u yesterday in help chat, say yeah tell him to use his pot0 typhon.. i was just confused 😄

[smoky halo]

well he was recommending them to use typhon

which they clearly do not own

[viscid mist]

Now that medic only achieved 305, every class has a cc2 clear for phase 1

Casters 695
Snipers 695
Specialist 655
Guards 645
Defender 625
Supporter 595
Vanguard 560
Medic 305

[glass monolith]

...

[cunning river]

Okay so my gut instinct is "EX 8 CM is impossible"

Also I didn't know Ethan could get killed at all

[glass monolith]

50% dodge is lie

After seeing Mizuki leaving field as fast as being deployed in IS it is something i know for sure

[cunning river]

So what am I supposed to do

[glass monolith]

Like uh.... Same thing. Just everything has +20% ATK so those skullshatters suddenly mean business

[cunning river]

Yeah I noticed

[glass monolith]

Right side is still joke which dies to chain casters

[cunning river]

So immediately I can't do the same thing

[smoky halo]

have you tried:
changing ur strat 🤩

[glass monolith]

I had first skullshatter vented by top left vent, so it was on 0 energy by time it walked to blue box so i beat shit out of it. For other 2 i had my best defender - Heavyrain with like 600 def with healing to stall till their energy decay

[cunning river]

I already had a rough time figuring out how to handle Cliff's bullshit

I have no idea what they want you to do here

[smoky halo]

do you know abt tactitian cheese?

[cyan gorge]

Vent abuse

[glass monolith]

Uh.... Suffer

[cunning river]

The vents are incredibly finnicky I find

[smoky halo]

do tactitian cheese

[cunning river]

What does that mean

[cyan gorge]

I just cheese through boss bs with Silence alter

[smoky halo]

boss skill resets if the target leves the field tactitian summoms dont leave the field when they die

so smthing like beanstalk can tank his skill

[cunning river]

Unfortunately I have no leveling mats

[smoky halo]

i used e0 lv1

[cunning river]

So I have to do with what I already have raised

[smoky halo]

its just grabel with extra steps

[cunning river]

In CM?

[smoky halo]

yes

shes just there for the summon to tank the boss

"tank"

[somber stone]

The summons will die anyway so why level

[smoky halo]

true

[glass monolith]

They need to survive till he start skill

[smoky halo]

position better idk

[viscid mist]

beanstalk s1 insta revive the summon

you need to be pretty bad to mess it up

[smoky halo]

phase 1 isnt an issue bc no skill reset on kill

[cunning river]

At that point I'm not worried about Cliff, I'm worried about every other mob

[smoky halo]

u can just use gravel to tank

[cunning river]

Seems like every mob this event has ranged attacks

[somber stone]

Stall cliff and kill everything else first

[smoky halo]

do u have penance or mudrocc

[cyan gorge]

Mud s3 solos left if you don’t completely forget about it

[smoky halo]

penance also solos left

[cunning river]

I have both, though I assume Mud S3 is really timing heavy

[smoky halo]

use penance s3 then

no need timing just active skill when ready

[cunning river]

Skalter was on this tile and I have no idea how she died

None

At all

[cyan gorge]

Snipers from left lane probably

[cyan gorge]

Not really

The worst part is making sure she isn’t hit by boss skill

[cunning river]

Okay now I have no idea either how you're even supposed to hold middle lane

[smoky halo]

i used dorothy

[cunning river]

Don't have her

[smoky halo]

sadge

[cyan gorge]

With cheese

[smoky halo]

im sure there are other options

[cunning river]

I don't have Mlynar, and I don't have Silence raised

[smoky halo]

like uh

damn was gonna say mlynar

[cyan gorge]

Mlynar is interchangeable with Typhon and Pozy

[cunning river]

I'm already borrowing Typhon

[smoky halo]

maween too strong

who do u even have

maybe show ur roster

[cyan gorge]

As long as they can kill boss with vent

[smoky halo]

[cunning river]

For example

[viscid mist]

can lin + shining tank p2 cliff

[cyan gorge]

I doubt it

[smoky halo]

kal can hold mid lane

[cunning river]

I somehow doubt it

[viscid mist]

why not borrow ceobe

[smoky halo]

try texas s2 btw

ceobe is good here ya

would suggest dropping thorns bc high def enemies

[viscid mist]

thorns does nothing this stage

[smoky halo]

unless vent activator duty

[cunning river]

Yeah now the middle lane units that are supposed to kill Cliff are just dying

[viscid mist]

maybe if you had stainless you could cope right side thorns s3 but then he gets killed

[cunning river]

God fucking dammit

[viscid mist]

when skullshatter wannabe goes there

i mean left side 👊

me and direction

[smoky halo]

cant u just burst

with borrow ceobe

[cunning river]

That's what I'm trying

[smoky halo]

[viscid mist]

ceobe destroy cliff by herself

[smoky halo]

typhon takes 3 years to unload all her smg

[cunning river]

I'm not even getting to the point where I can kill Cliff

[viscid mist]

your team is strong enough to clean the trash mobs

just sub thorns for beanstalk

[smoky halo]

u just said

[cunning river]

Sure doesn't feel like it

[smoky halo]

ur ops are dying to cliff

[cunning river]

Now they're dying to trash mobs

I hate this game

[smoky halo]

[spark sinew]

well, having actual art units would've been nice

[viscid mist]

I will go ahead and try to clear the stage with your units

[spark sinew]

but yeah it should still clear the mobs, despite all of them basically struggling vs non trash def

[cunning river]

They don't even get to clear cause they die first

[smoky halo]

i mean penance solo left
kal mid seems fine?

[cunning river]

I have no idea what's going on

I know enemies are buffed in CM, but this isn't what happened in normal

Fucking what

[smoky halo]

i mean 20% stats is pretty huge

[glass monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts2j6T5A-38 Every problem has a solution. Question is how cursed it is

[smoky halo]

esp since they gain extra stats on energy

which gets amplified by the extra stat from CM

[spark sinew]

the dr from turrets stacks with AH, right

[glass monolith]

Gladiia DR, Stainless S3 physical only DR and Shelter DR stack with each other

[smoky halo]

uh

[cunning river]

No

Fucking

Idea

What's going on

[smoky halo]

[spark sinew]

yeah i knew shelter stacks

although i'm not raising salter, so lemme forget this piece of info again

[cunning river]

9 tickets left

GOD THE FUCKING CHALLENGE PENALTY IS SO FUCKING STUPID

[crisp bolt]

then raise quercus

[glass monolith]

Here me cooking 1 year ago on chapter 11 boss #strategy message

[spark sinew]

already

well, in the process, i'm not rushing ig

[cunning river]

Penance doesn't even get to load her skill 3 before she dies

[smoky halo]

uh i let penance get hit by the vent for sp

maybe i shouldve specified that

[cunning river]

That sounds like a good way to get her killed

[crisp bolt]

vent does little damage in comparison

[glass monolith]

She need how many SP? 28? 28 * 200 arts damage?

[smoky halo]

vent is 200 dmg

thats barely anything

[glass monolith]

200 arts damage

[spark sinew]

pre res as well

[cunning river]

Sure doesn't feel like it

My units are melting in the vents

[smoky halo]

well depends on the unit

but penance is tanky

[spark sinew]

mod block gate is real
every single op in "to do list" is there because of the modules

[glass monolith]

You burn like 2/3rds of her S3 shield to regain S3

[viscid mist]

i'm impressed at how bad i played this

ceobe does make the stage a walk in the park

and then you just throw whatever to kill the trash mobs

[smoky halo]

thats still a profit of 1/3

[spark sinew]

oh i remember the convo yesterday about mud soloing left

lemme try

[viscid mist]

kal soloed left

[spark sinew]

maybe someone actually just joked and she doesn't actually do it

[smoky halo]

can kal solo mid?

[viscid mist]

idk didnt put her mid

she probably can

[smoky halo]

maybe kal is supposed to be on the far right tile

and monster near left

so that no one touches kal

[glass monolith]

I don't play CS. Where the hell is MID on that thing

[smoky halo]

the other lane

[viscid mist]

i assume he means this

[smoky halo]

thats not left

[cunning river]

My verdict so far is that Penance is shit (at least without M3)

[smoky halo]

its not right either

[smoky halo]

i was assuming u have m3

[cunning river]

I swear to fucking god

[spark sinew]

penance barely tanks shit with m3

[cunning river]

Okay, so Penance goes to my shit list

[viscid mist]

well penance was beyond useless for me the only thing she did was tank a cliff skill

🫡

[glass monolith]

God be like - Why there is Arknight players spam in my mail

[viscid mist]

and it didnt really matter

penance can solo left no

[smoky halo]

barely tanked means it worked tho

[cunning river]

How do I use her S3 here?

[cunning river]

No she can't

[viscid mist]

this sounds cooked

[smoky halo]

not on m0

ig

[viscid mist]

what even is sl7 s3

[smoky halo]

idk

[smoky halo]

uh

30% hp

[viscid mist]

theres certainly a difference but i dont think it matters for this specifically

[smoky halo]

pretty decent chunk

[spark sinew]

well i meant in general

but yeah, don't mind me

[viscid mist]

those snipers dont deal a lot of dmg against high defense

they are free s3 charge

[smoky halo]

well my s3m3 penance solo left was close

[viscid mist]

🤨

[smoky halo]

i tanked vent tho

[viscid mist]

well thats your issue then

🫡

[smoky halo]

idk all i saw was free sp

[glass monolith]

Morale of the story - Uh... Sample text. Use NG and Silence alter talents to buff Penance

[smoky halo]

it worked for me so uh yeah

[viscid mist]

you just said it barely worked bozo

👊

[crisp bolt]

wow CV-EX-5 is a weirdly annoying layout

[smoky halo]

barely worked = still worked

[smoky halo]

yeah it is

[spark sinew]

ok yeah i have no idea how people were saying that mud tanked

only reinforces my desire to not bother with juggs

[smoky halo]

[spark sinew]

bad class anyway

[smoky halo]

mud cant solo left?

[viscid mist]

your a hater

🥱

[cunning river]

Mudrock also can't hold left lane on her own

[deft badger]

she can

[viscid mist]

just use kal then

[cunning river]

Texalter is worse than useless this stage

[deft badger]

just put her on spawn

[viscid mist]

is your kal sl7 too

[deft badger]

same with penance

[viscid mist]

[cunning river]

Kal also can't hold this lane

[viscid mist]

??????????????????????

[spark sinew]

is your texalter sl7 as well

or e1

[smoky halo]

use s2

[cunning river]

No

She's M3

[viscid mist]

are all your ops sl7

texas kill all enemies this stage

[cunning river]

Pffft

[viscid mist]

unless youre using her when they are on charge

[cunning river]

No she doesn't

[viscid mist]

then you are just dumb

[cunning river]

She gets spawn killed

[viscid mist]

I literally cleared this stage 10 min ago and she did

[smoky halo]

spawnkilled

[viscid mist]

I don't know what to tell you

[smoky halo]

by what

[viscid mist]

Nothing in this stage spawnkill texas

[cunning river]

By everything?

[crisp bolt]

I actually failed the stage

[smoky halo]

she had dmg reduction talent

[viscid mist]

you must be playing dayknights

[smoky halo]

how is she dying

[cunning river]

Are you sure we're talking the same stage

[viscid mist]

I am

[smoky halo]

cliff:

[cunning river]

I am using S3 M3. She gets spawn killed by trash mobs

[deft badger]

bro no offense but kinder a lot of stuff doesn't work out for u the same way it does for us

[smoky halo]

if ur trying to kill the elites u can use s2 for more dmg idk

[cunning river]

That's why I'm frustratred

[deft badger]

and its fine, but don't try to convince people she cant if she can

[cunning river]

She can't for me and I have no idea why

[spark sinew]

don't try to kill skullshatter wannabees on full charge btw

[deft badger]

no need to be

[viscid mist]

? The point is that she works perfectly fine s3m3 as he said he has the operator

[deft badger]

u just started

[viscid mist]

The only answer is that he is using it incorretly

[smoky halo]

try modless

[viscid mist]

if they are on green bar texas wont do shit

[smoky halo]

he has no mod

[viscid mist]

Fine i will replay this stage without being a dumbass

do you have specter e2

?

[smoky halo]

wait is he trying to kill the enemies while charged

[cunning river]

Normal Specter?

Yes

[cyan gorge]

Kal is much easier to use for left, but sometimes if she's too low invested she won't survive

[viscid mist]

yes

[smoky halo]

breh

[cunning river]

Kal doesn't do too hot on left either

[crisp bolt]

there CV-EX-5 complete

[cyan gorge]

Mine does fine

[crisp bolt]

lin is very fun op

[smoky halo]

[viscid mist]

my kal don't even has panancea

[cyan gorge]

then again lvl 80 and mod-y 2

[viscid mist]

she did perfectly fine left

i would pro use s2 instead tho

s3 shit skill

🥱

[cunning river]

Yeah I don't have mods on her and lv70

[crisp bolt]

I'm legit going to run out of sanity before I can do ex-8

[smoky halo]

i will try to kal solo left with my pot0 kal

[glass monolith]

I still can't get over my POO experience - Wanted to do "10 hour stall" strategy, only to realize i can't afford needed sustain, only to somehow make weird AH + mlynar + Ceobe + Silence alter carry BS

[cunning river]

Okay last 3 tickets

[smoky halo]

3 ticket cm is cringe

[cunning river]

If someone has a really good idea saved up, now's the time

[cunning river]

It's really bad, yes

[viscid mist]

i don't believe texas pots will make nearly enough difference for this situation

but lets see

[cyan gorge]

why tex s3

[smoky halo]

schwarz is kinda dedge for dps against the boss

[viscid mist]

because it's good?

i didnt see a reason to use s2

[cyan gorge]

not for ex8

[cunning river]

That's what I'm using

[cyan gorge]

s2 actually kills things

[smoky halo]

borrow ceobe instread

she can 1 cycle

[cunning river]

I'm already borrowing Typhon

[smoky halo]

ceobe is better against the boss

[cunning river]

And that's about the only reliable way I could find to kill his phase 1

[void terrace]

Borrow mylnar and outrage clip

Or borrow nian and tank him

[deft badger]

btw don't u have eyja?

[cunning river]

Yes

[deft badger]

use eyja for left side s2

[cyan gorge]

Pozy outranges and kills too

[smoky halo]

mlynar does jackshit to 3.5k def

[deft badger]

or ifrit

[void terrace]

Vent or aak

[spark sinew]

jay can't relate, he has p5

[cyan gorge]

that's why you use vents

[crisp bolt]

aak

[smoky halo]

hes having a hard time using the vents

[void terrace]

I mean I cleared it with pennance

[cunning river]

Where? I don't see where she can hit Cliff from a distance

[smoky halo]

so i recommened ceobe who doesnt care abt vents

[cunning river]

Pozy, I mean

[void terrace]

But it was for the memes

[smoky halo]

same tile as schearz

[void terrace]

The easiest version of the clear was hunters with typhon

[cyan gorge]

if he can place Yato s2 on vent as it expires, he can easily solve vent issues against boss

[smoky halo]

u can outrange but her dmg sucks unless vent

[deft badger]

told u to do this

[cunning river]

Anything I put near a vent just dies

[void terrace]

Skadi just yawns at him. Use inses to bind as necessary if she's stunned

[cunning river]

Yeah, that doesn't happen

She maybe does like a third of the vent then dies

[void terrace]

Have you tried the other tile

[smoky halo]

are you tanking an elite or smthing?

[cyan gorge]

there are 2 sides to place tex on

[void terrace]

In front of the vent

[smoky halo]

tex doesnt die to any noncharged enemy

[cunning river]

I have no idea

[smoky halo]

except cliff ofc

green bar = bad

[cunning river]

She does jack shit against Cliff, I know

Then pretty sure I didn't

[smoky halo]

just dont interact with thr enemy if they have greenbar

[somber stone]

More yellow = bad

[deft badger]

then just bring typhon surtr chalter eyja in the fight u need one vent activation this way

[cunning river]

Pretty sure the enemies aren't even hit by the vents where I drop her

[smoky halo]

near full yellow = bad

well if theyre at 0 yellow they are weak asf

[cyan gorge]

Pozy + Warf/Suzu and vent also kills boss

[smoky halo]

sounds schizo

[cunning river]

Don't have either of those two raised

[smoky halo]

just use ceobe frfr

[cunning river]

But I need Typhon though

[smoky halo]

lemme try to find the ceo gif

[deft badger]

u have chalter, schwarz, surtr and u can borrow typhon

again ifrit should be ur schwarz xD

[cunning river]

They were saying to switch Schwarz with Pozy

[deft badger]

anything that helps u push him fast enough in to p1

so that he moves before the launcher spawns

[smoky halo]

i wouldnt use either

unless u plan to vent

[cunning river]

The other issue is that Surtr gets to do no hits on him

She gets stunned then dies super quick

Because every boss now has to have an anti-Surtr skill

[smoky halo]

yup thats expected

[deft badger]

mine hits him 5 times

and thats enough

[cunning river]

No idea how you make her do that

[deft badger]

and she is there anyway so that he doesn't hit chalter

[cunning river]

Pots?

[deft badger]

u can even bait the skill out on a other op

just place something in his face and recall insta

he will use the skill and she will atk more then 4-5 times

best tank that he cant one hit with the skill so that he doesn't blink

[smoky halo]

use beanstalk to tank

[deft badger]

just go and stall xD

at this point

[smoky halo]

idk i didnt stall

[deft badger]

borrow stainless with s3 have fun

[smoky halo]

i just need someone to eat 1 shot

[cunning river]

I have no idea how you're supposed to stall against this guy

[smoky halo]

beanstalk is the cheapest option

[deft badger]

he has ops to kill him on spawn literally

[smoky halo]

skadi with AH handbuff + stainless s3

[cunning river]

I fucking hate this game

[deft badger]

then regroup to def other lanes

[somber stone]

Phase one stall is just block him

[cunning river]

There go the last 3 tickets

[smoky halo]

phase 1 stall is ez btw

[glass monolith]

Ez outside part that stun is 6 second and shit start moving after 2 or so

[spark sinew]

you can literally just throw bodies at phase 1

[cunning river]

Yeah stall doesn't seem doable

[glass monolith]

Or status resistance

[cunning river]

Straight up

Fuck it someone give me a guide

I am fed up with this

Spent too much time already

[cyan gorge]

The only reliable strat I know is Silalter + Mlynar

[thorny silo]

Ceobe cheese

[cunning river]

Have neither so

And my Ceobe has no masteries

Or modules

[thorny silo]

Borrow one

[cunning river]

I'm already borrowing Typhon

[smoky halo]

bro do u know how def works

[cunning river]

Cause my Typhon also doesn't have masteries

[smoky halo]

chalter and poze do jackshit

if not vented

[deft badger]

at this point better borrow yalter

[smoky halo]

[deft badger]

and use ur typhon if u cant activet vent

[smoky halo]

for??

[deft badger]

there is no point to use typhon

[cunning river]

Then why the fuck people told me to use them I am so fucking mad

[smoky halo]

they expect u to vent

breh

ive been suggesting ceobe cause not being in vent benefits her

[thorny silo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP-xIIFJ_0w&t=196s
This is the video I use

I use my own Typhon with S2M1

no module

Typhon takes the left lane if she too weak, you can put a defender and a healer bottom left to stall the enemies

You gonna need a near max S2 Ceobe tho

[smoky halo]

who knew that caster that deals dmg based on enemy def melts a high def boss

[cunning river]

I have no idea how you're supposed to use the vents

[spark sinew]

suzu showcase again

[cunning river]

And I reiterate

Texalter sucks for this stage

[smoky halo]

use s2

[cunning river]

Pretty sure I don't have her on my list

Man there go 10 sanity

Man HG are geniuses

Masters of game design

[thorny silo]

Yeah...use the friend id channel to find one

[deft badger]

hahahahahhaa

[smoky halo]

pretty sure i told u texalt s2 does more dmg

[spark sinew]

you still have another day

[deft badger]

its about hits i think not dmg

when it comes to vents

[spark sinew]

idt they're using texas for the damage here though, looks like she just hits vent

[cunning river]

Fuck that, if I don't do it in the next 10 minutes I'm done with the event

[smoky halo]

bro he isnt trying to use the vent

why use vent when u can ceobe

[cunning river]

Arknights doesn't deserve that much of my time

[spark sinew]

he is using typhon...

[smoky halo]

realsies

[deft badger]

bro he isn't even using ceobe

[smoky halo]

i mean thats his problem now 🥱

[deft badger]

whats with u and ceobe xD

[smoky halo]

its a good op for this stage

[thorny silo]

Ceobe took me 3 tries

[cunning river]

Yeah I have no Ceobe on my list

[thorny silo]

After almost 6 hours of trying to stall

[cunning river]

And I don't have the patience to wait for someone with one to show up

[smoky halo]

he doesnt want vent
i suggest op that doesnt need vent
he doesnt want to use it and insists on typhon an op that wants vent

[cunning river]

How are you supposed to trigger the vents on time

[thorny silo]

It appears you are doing cm?

[cunning river]

Yes

[smoky halo]

each hit give vent 2 sp

[spark sinew]

by thinking ahead probably
like you hit them a bit so they would activate on time

[smoky halo]

vent need 50 sp to activate

[spark sinew]

for second phase afk guides usually just used ethan/thorns

[deft badger]

do u have BP btw? doesn't have to be built

[cunning river]

Ethan just fucking dies in this stage

[deft badger]

blue poison

[cunning river]

BP?

Yeah

[deft badger]

there u go

[thorny silo]

Guess can just chill for a while and wait for someone to add you

[deft badger]

plece her top left corner facing down

nvm

[cunning river]

Nah, in 20 minutes I either beat this or I'm done

[deft badger]

she isn't in range

forget that i thought its aligned with the first vent it doesn't

[glass monolith]

Ex-8 carl, top left do'n't even have vent attacking boss

[cunning river]

Touching the vents at all makes it so he's never on them too long

If someone can give me the exact timing, that'd be great

[ivory nimbus]

Gravel hit twice per attack interval? Pretty handy vent charger.

[cunning river]

Oh I haven't been this mad at the game in a while

[thorny silo]

I think Kirin just instantly charge it with S3

[cunning river]

This is one of the worst ones they've made fr fr

[ivory nimbus]

That's even better.

[ivory nimbus]

You aren't seen nothing yet.

[glass monolith]

Exact timing stuff is for those low op clears youtubers etc. Play as player. F- up and try to hotfix it mid run

[cunning river]

I mean, HG must be the only dev that their design just gets worse over time rather than imrove so

Not surprised

[deft badger]

u its literally active a vent win

[ivory nimbus]

Salty much?

[deft badger]

or borrow ceobe and try with her

don't know what to say anymore

[thorny silo]

I actually know someone who has a Ceobe
Regalia#6511

You can try adding him but not sure if he's online now

[deft badger]

Hauck has one for sure 😄

but he doesn't wanna get involved hahaha

[thorny silo]

Yeah he's online

Add him and he will accept you now

[cunning river]

Okay Texalter S2 charges like 2 pips of the vent before she dies

[deft badger]

then borrow yalter

u can even clap him with yalter texas on the way and kill him mid lane

[ivory nimbus]

It's not like this is Stultifera Navis and their Seaborn malarkey of dodge nonsense.

[thorny silo]

Let me know your uid I will tell him to accept you

[smoky halo]

i suggested texalt s2 for the enemies not vent if u gonna use for vent use s3

[cunning river]

She did about the same with S3 though

[somber stone]

If vent use gravel

[smoky halo]

how

s3 has more hits tho no?

[cunning river]

Cause she dies

[smoky halo]

or am i schizo

[cunning river]

Really quickly

She's shit for this stage

[smoky halo]

place left side of vent

[cunning river]

Yes

[somber stone]

S2 is 2 hit, no?

[cunning river]

I did that

[smoky halo]

doesnt s3 swords have faster interval

[cunning river]

Sure does

[smoky halo]

or uh

idk

[cunning river]

Don't mean much

[deft badger]

yess

[smoky halo]

i dont own texas

[cunning river]

If she pretty much gets spawn killed

[smoky halo]

[thorny silo]

Just use Ceobe...literally 3 attempts

[cunning river]

Lancer#8000

[smoky halo]

ive seen this before

[spark sinew]

how does texas get spawnkilled actually 🤔

[cunning river]

Do you have modules/pots on her?

[spark sinew]

doesn't she stun

[cunning river]

She's supposed to stun but it's not doing much

Stun was never super reliable

At least, your stun

I mean, that's normal stage

[cunning river]

There

I've added them

[thorny silo]

Yeah CM is different, as far as I know the second phase the boss is much tankier

[cunning river]

I mean I posted a lot of video by now

[smoky halo]

eberything is tankier on cm

[cunning river]

In all of them you can see Texas just get wrecked

[deft badger]

who tanky?

[thorny silo]

But not just 15% it's like almost 2x

[smoky halo]

pretty sure boss doesnt have a 2x stat buff on cm

[cunning river]

I should add that even on the vents he takes nowhere that amount of damage

Probably cause I don't have Warf raised

[thorny silo]

I think just def/hp

At least that's how it feels like

[cunning river]

Do I put Ceobe on the same spot I was putting Pozy?

[smoky halo]

well warf is like almost 2x dmg lol

[deft badger]

u can do him without warf i mean u have to ops for it

[cunning river]

Well there you go

[thorny silo]

Just copy the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP-xIIFJ_0w&t=196s

[smoky halo]

for typhon at lwast

[deft badger]

u just have to use that vents

[cunning river]

They're using both Typhon and Ceobe here

[deft badger]

vents lower 70% def

[smoky halo]

"how do i use the vents"
"u just have to use the vents"

[thorny silo]

Yeah you only need a half built Typhon

[viscid mist]

typhon is only a laneholder

You can just sub her by smth else

[thorny silo]

Even Ifrit will do the job

[smoky halo]

u have typhon right?

[deft badger]

told him already borrow yalter s2 and enjoy he has chalter skalter typhone surtr

[cunning river]

Yes

[smoky halo]

just use urs then

[cunning river]

Mine's not M3 on anything though

[smoky halo]

m0 mod0 works

shes e2 right?

[cunning river]

Yes

[spark sinew]

returns from masteries on s2 are shit

[thorny silo]

Yeah you dont need mastery or module on Typhon

[cunning river]

That's how I became broke lmao

[smoky halo]

if its not enough deploy sutur or texas or smthing

[thorny silo]

She just to hold left lane

[smoky halo]

or ntrk

[deft badger]

just skalter typhone and surtr with vent activation by yalter are going to kill him

[cunning river]

Having Suzurran seems pretty important here

[smoky halo]

by any chance do u have ling

[thorny silo]

Yeah Suzu helps

[deft badger]

use ur eyja on left side with s2

[cunning river]

Don't have her raised either

[viscid mist]

suzu makes it easier for cliff to stay in range

[deft badger]

just place like a gummy infront of her

[smoky halo]

[viscid mist]

but its not necessary

[thorny silo]

You can maybe try putting a Warfarin beside Ceobe

She got a 60% atk buff

[cunning river]

this is not going to work at all, is it?

Again

Warf not raised

[viscid mist]

you can use skalter s3

same thing

[cunning river]

Skalter only has her S2 M3

[viscid mist]

use s3 level 7

[thorny silo]

Hmm Warfarin only need e1lvl1

You just need her S2 at lvl7

[cunning river]

I should mention

I am completely broke

I doubt I have enough to raise anything

[smoky halo]

[viscid mist]

👊

[cunning river]

Unless skills don't take money

In which case, I forgot

[viscid mist]

skills dont cost lmd

lol

[deft badger]

they don't

[viscid mist]

only skill books and mats

[crisp bolt]

hope you have the mats

[cunning river]

Okay, at some point I took Warf to E1 lv40

Where do I put her

[thorny silo]

Right beside Ceobe

Use her S2 before you use Ceobe S2

[viscid mist]

without suzu you need something to hold cliff in place

like surtr or specter s2

or just burst him on his still spot

wont work if you try to do like the vid from spawn because hes just gonna leave her range

[thorny silo]

Just need to burst the boss down fast enough

Try it first

[cunning river]

Okay so Ceobe just gets destroyed by trash mobs

[viscid mist]

theres only 1 tile ceobe is not that strong

bro you obviously cant deploy ceobe when skullshatterer is there

shes just going to die

[thorny silo]

You need to wait until that bazooka thing leaves

[deft badger]

hahahahaha

[cunning river]

There's one of those around all the time

[viscid mist]

?

no

[cunning river]

What the fuck am I supposed to do

[thorny silo]

You put Ceobe in after the bazooka mob enter the stairs

[ivory nimbus]

Observe. Adapt. Overcome.

[smoky halo]

[thorny silo]

In phase 2 there will be another bazooka, for that you need a good healer to keep Ceobe alive

Shining will work

[cunning river]

Maybe mention that earlier jesus

[thorny silo]

It's in the video

[cunning river]

Ceobe did a lot

[glass monolith]

Seen. Brute forced. Kyo guided

[cunning river]

I'm being sarcastic, in case it wasn't obvious

[smoky halo]

sator literally told u that u need a blocker

since no suzu

[cunning river]

When did they mention a blocker

Also pretty sure that runs back into the problem that Cliff instakills everything on his path

[deft badger]

they told u use surtr to block

[cunning river]

My bad, I missed that

But still

Surtr isn't going to last long

[deft badger]

activate that skill of hers

so that she does

[thorny silo]

I think she has invincible after she dies

[cunning river]

Fuck it I guess I can use Lumen?

Maybe

[smoky halo]

have u tried uh deploying beanstalk summon to bait skill

[cunning river]

I have no idea

[smoky halo]

then a blocker

[cunning river]

In CM he does his skill way quicker

[smoky halo]

18s cooldown

ceobe does not take more than 18s

[ivory nimbus]

Ya just got to get the timing right. Only took me 2 hours and 8 attempts to beat CM.

[thorny silo]

Ceobe should do significantly more

Even if she dies

[cunning river]

Not the first time stuff doesn't work for me the same it does for others

[thorny silo]

Does Suzuran slow the boss even if the boss doesn't move?

[smoky halo]

huh?

[thorny silo]

Like it makes the boss stand still longer?

[smoky halo]

no

why wouldnt the boss move tho

[deft badger]

no

[smoky halo]

ceobe is in range of the boss by his first checkpoint

[thorny silo]

The boss stands still for a while when it first spawns

[smoky halo]

if the boss reaches that tile

ceobe is dead unless other blocker

[thorny silo]

Yeah Ceobe should normally almost kills the boss before the boss moves

Especially with Warfarin

[smoky halo]

i dont see how warf affects this

[deft badger]

lovely...❤️ let me try this 😄

[smoky halo]

since most of ceobe dmg shoyld be from her talent

which doesnt care abt her atk

[cunning river]

I think Warf buffed Texas instead of Ceobe because I fucked up there

[thorny silo]

Hmm I see

[smoky halo]

s2 texas to reduce res maybe

idk

[spark sinew]

each enemy has a certain path
when they reach a spot that need to wait for X second, they begin the waiting basically

you can't slow down that part

idk about cliff specifically though, just answering in general

[smoky halo]

me when i activate rosa skill too late

and now the stall brwaks

fak

cause they reached checkpoint

[spark sinew]

sometimes it's super janky (or maybe intended) and you can make the enemy "wait" in the spot while it phase transitions

which sucks in IS3 ed1 d15 for example

[viscid mist]

cliff has 5 still spots

he walks after he leaves the red box until his first still spot

[cunning river]

@thorny silo This time I got it 100%

This is how much Ceobe did before dying

[viscid mist]

looks right

surtr should be able to finsh the job

[spark sinew]

was skalter active by that time

[glass monolith]

Damn he take pauses to smoke as my grandpa used to

[spark sinew]

throw seaborn in the mix if she was

[smoky halo]

?

[cunning river]

breathes

[viscid mist]

🤨

[smoky halo]

maybe place sutur outside of cliff range

[cunning river]

I FUCKING HATE THIS FUCKING GAME

[viscid mist]

but how

[smoky halo]

bro

[cunning river]

That's what I did though?

That's 100% what I fucking did

[desert vine]

surtr on bot side facing up bro

[viscid mist]

how did she die then

[smoky halo]

how did she die

is ur sutur m0?

[thorny silo]

Does Skalter help? Since someone said increased atk doesnt work on Ceobe

[cunning river]

Her invul timed out cause she got stunned

[spark sinew]

if skalter wouldn't help, neither would warf
both 100% help

[smoky halo]

so shes in range of cliff

cause thats the only way to get stunned

[cunning river]

There's no place to put her where she can hit him and he won't eventually get on range

[smoky halo]

have u tried baiting with grvel

my guy ive been suggesting to use a different unit to bait

[cunning river]

I did with Texas which is about the same timer

[smoky halo]

so u baited the shot

[cunning river]

Yes

[thorny silo]

Maybe seaborn + Warfarin

[smoky halo]

then why did u place texas beside sutur?

[thorny silo]

Double atk buff

[smoky halo]

the stun is for the tile and 4 adjacent tiles

[cunning river]

??????

[smoky halo]

i mean how else is sutur getting stunned?

hes the only one with stun there

[cunning river]

Isn't the stun single target?

It's AoE?

[smoky halo]

no

[spark sinew]

no

[desert vine]

press f

[smoky halo]

do you not see the yellow tiles

[ivory nimbus]

[cunning river]

No?

What yellow tiles?

[smoky halo]

when he does his skill

the tiles blink yellow

indicating those ops will get stunnef

[cunning river]

If there's yellow tiles then they're very dim

[deft badger]

i guess ceobe works just with suzu?

[thorny silo]

I didn't know that either

[cunning river]

Jesus fucking christ HG

[ivory nimbus]

It's the op he's targeting and everyone in the 4 adjacent tiles.

[smoky halo]

what he said

those ops get stunned

[cunning river]

JUST FUCKING HIRE PEOPLE THAT CAN MAKE GAMES GODDAMMIT YOU HACK STUDIO

[fiery marsh]

You can stall cliff with hoshi and medics btw, with one begin the ones who half stun duration

[ivory nimbus]

[smoky halo]

not on phase 2

[thorny silo]

That's what I did for 6 hours, gave up

[fiery marsh]

Yesh but stalling only the first is enough

[smoky halo]

well u can but stalling phase 2 is schizo

[cunning river]

I'm just going to declare any stall strat a failure

He does too much damage to even consider

[fiery marsh]

Phase two is just burst when that isnt anything else to worry about

[smoky halo]

stall strat is for weak rosters

ur roster is strong enough

[ivory nimbus]

Cliff P2 will pretty one-shot anything but the highest calibers of defense.

[thorny silo]

I ended up ranging the boss down for both nm and cm

[spark sinew]

you do know you can also see his kit in the stage info, right
although part of it is badly translated

[glass monolith]

I will just leave it here #strategy message

[spark sinew]

but the part about stun is quite clear

[fiery marsh]

"Attacks penetrate"

[wary wing]

why aren't ppl using Jessica S3 shield Vs cliff?

[deft badger]

did try ceobe, warf, + eyja buff she wasn't even able to kill p1

[wary wing]

you know the shield has like 4k defense no?

[thorny silo]

Ceobe, Warf, seaborn, tried that?

[torn ice]

cause i found out he die when killed 💪

[smoky halo]

isnt this with mod?

[fiery marsh]

I did with it

[wary wing]

ok but
shining s3 wher

[spark sinew]

depends on your stall strat

[smoky halo]

[torn ice]

i used 0 defensive op ♿

[spark sinew]

like, AH tanking this shit and then you nuking with whatever ops you have is very easy

[glass monolith]

Let's be honest, if dying is issue - Just don't (Silence Alter S3)

[smoky halo]

non schizo stall strat then

[wary wing]

skadi?

[spark sinew]

and you can only do it with fairly advanced acc

[lethal dragon]

That's the way chads play AK

[glass monolith]

e2 90 - 3802 hp 755 def

[cunning river]

OKAY

I THINK I FINALLY GOT IT

[smoky halo]

[wary wing]

s3

[spark sinew]

damn, did HG learned how to make stages

[cunning river]

Holy shit they need to start signaling their shit better

[wary wing]

ok
3k Def
same shit

[cunning river]

This is really bad

[glass monolith]

+140% or something, still not quite 4k

[cunning river]

No they're still garbage, and are getting worse apparently

[smoky halo]

how

i found this event quite fun idk

[cunning river]

See

Most of the event is fun

Even good

It's just

That they specifically suck at making bosses

Like

[lethal dragon]

DW we going back to symmetrical shit soon

[smoky halo]

i hated ex5 more than ex8

[cunning river]

They're really really really bad at it

[crisp bolt]

I think the bosses are fine

[smoky halo]

goofy ahh map

[cunning river]

Hilariously bad at making bosses

[smoky halo]

the boss is fine for me bc i just kill via outrange kek

[spark sinew]

I was referencing the messages above but eh

[fiery marsh]

Nah i found it pretty fun and ok difficulty wise

[desert vine]

the only thing i see here is just skill issue

[glass monolith]

This event is easy for me due long experience with game BS and enemies being no difficulty when handled correctly.
If we want to talk about fucking bullshit events which make me want to uninstall game we can always backtrack to HE

[thorny silo]

Just need the right strat

[spark sinew]

boss is kinda cool yeah
extreme way of making sure you won't deploy where you don't need to

[cunning river]

There we go

[spark sinew]

reminded me of andoian a bit

[cunning river]

Fuck this stage holy shit

[ivory nimbus]

Mechanics is boring, enemies are mostly slightly revamped variants to fit the event, most EX stages are just boring aside from EX-8. I only liked it for the story.

[thorny silo]

You finished it?

[cunning river]

Yes

[spark sinew]

like you actually need to think about his pathing, and deploy stuff after he passed the tiles, for example

[thorny silo]

🥳 🥳 🥳

[cunning river]

This sucked

[glass monolith]

6 OUT OF 8 FUCKING CMS IS "VENT THIS" AND "VENT THAT"

[thorny silo]

Ceobe strat takes like 3 tries is what I said

[cunning river]

Nothing more to say

I'm drained

Probably going to take a long break of this game again

[glass monolith]

Let's go Helldivers 2