it's why Penance is such a great SSS carry
#strategy
jovial nest
jovial nest
any off rec monsters usually balanced by off rec slowness can shine here
foggy grove
i just throw whatever comes first
lapis hornet
ya
foggy grove
guard/vg
lapis hornet
spec also good they give aspd
multiplicative with atk so could be better value cba doing the math it works anyway
jovial nest
you call it restrictive. I call it way easier to use. My squad consists of Carries, multiple VGs, multiple snipers, and supporters (to keep cycling while being great skill carries like Skalter or Suzuran or even temp summons)
foggy grove
maybe i should try that,my spec is usually to cycle stack or for oops moment
i have only 1 on deck usually,it's gladiia
lapis hornet
I pick glad spec, maybe weedy
shifters kinda cool since they can go both ranged and ground
but idr low cost shifter smh
tiny tree
What should I do for this one
jovial nest
well i guess this is good for Mlynar. Still prefer the Oscillator Gnosis 5x sniper
jovial nest
well, so far these 2 new SSS are more formidable ngl
laterano at least is a bit straightforward
lighthouse requires some wandering medics to be brought
foggy grove
the sn theme boss has 95? res
jovial nest
cause that unique lighthouse device ain't carrying your ele healing
foggy grove
other than that you can caster it away
cosmic thicket
really? I think 5x spec B is better because he goes through his ammo faster
jovial nest
depends what you really want on your squad
i like VG's ATK and SP
works well with my favorites
cosmic thicket
lighthouse requires some wandering medics to be brought
eyja alter + skalter were my only healers and it worked fine so lol lmao
jovial nest
like Galter, Penance, and soon, Degen
cosmic thicket
i run a mix of VG A and spec B
jovial nest
eyja alter + skalter were my only healers and it worked fine so lol lmao
Eyja alter is enough
she's basically the GOD of ele dmg heals
cosmic thicket
for mlynar/chongyue
jovial nest
her being there heals ele dmg without her doing anything
cosmic thicket
yeah
the boss being a 2 life point boss makes me feel like the emergency tower is doable with low end again
jovial nest
what's emer tower?
cosmic thicket
emergency is more stats + flashbangs
jovial nest
I do love that they give a lot of deployment limits in some of these. Allows me to just drop vanilla Suzu
cosmic thicket
I haven't actually tried that tower yet
jovial nest
Skalter's pretty mandatory for any SSS map without medics needed
oh, when you meant emer, it's SSS hard mode
gotcha
already done with those. I'm just doing the missions
lapis hornet
I bring horn mud penance usually anyway
foggy grove
ya i just use those
lapis hornet
okay I have free time lets get the medals so I dun have to think about sss for the next months
jovial nest
how bad is the laterano tower i hear people complaining about it
hard mode is difficult for me just because of the sheer bulk of the enemies in the boss map. And add to the fact the roadblock DP inflation you have to solve which makes stuff slower.
I only have to do 14 more Medic recruitments and I can forget SSS again until the next batch of new SSS maps
the mission conditions are pretty easy this time around for me
jovial nest
haha. me raising a lot of medics to E2 is really helping fuel the mission
the more operators you've raised to e2, the better the class spread on the SSS recruiting during the run
good to know
jovial nest
Welp, finally done. I'll touch SSS only after 18 weeks from now.
somber stone
Wait Thomas can be blocked
timid schooner
jovial nest
Wait Thomas can be blocked
you have to kill its ice cream charges
once it's out, it becomes fragile and blocked
somber stone
Dorothy s2 brainrot 
hardy fog
vital arrow
is this really the place for this
foggy grove
wrong channel blud
deft badger
the hell are u eating
glass monolith
Some twitter F- necroposted chocolate pasta event from year ago and he spread it on all servers i share with him
deft badger
feels even wrong looking at it
any ideas how to deal with those running guys on f5 d14 they kinda hit like a truck ๐
glass monolith
Can't help because i die to them on d0 
turbid badge
yea..?
vocal leaf
why you still using spot in f5?
turbid badge
for rralso
shell arch
Anyone knows whether or not we're getting new info about deeznuts destiny 2 collab?
sullen rover
bungie called taiwan a country or something
idt were gonna get a destiny 2 collab
flint laurel
Anyone knows whether or not we're getting new info about ~~deeznuts~~ destiny 2 ...
destiny 2 have internal problem so it's hard to say
old arch
Hmm hi guys.
So I'm having just a bit of trouble with M8-8. 
So I uh, do know about the secret so... I think I get it?
So I assume that means he won't take my hp away right.
scarlet mortar
he will
old arch
Oh.
scarlet mortar
you need to do the stage twice if you want the secret ending
old arch
I see.
Hmm. And here's my second question.
It's not necessarily that everything's hard; I've managed to handle it up to P2 and I believe I can take him out in time.
The thing is his toxic dust.
So I'd like to ask regarding most Doctors.
Would that necessitate 2 AOE healers?
Or is only 1 enough, and I'm just not braining hard enough.
Like all the throwers and other enemies are manageable, but the dust is killing me even when there's no one around.
scarlet mortar
you don't want too many ops on the field
old arch
So the counter to the dust is... fewer operators?
scarlet mortar
assuming a balanced roster with zero carry ops, the strat is to space his mist procs out so they don't all stack and kill you
old arch
Wait what.
weak gazelle
yeah less ops on field or lot of medic
lapis hornet
ptilo s2 can solo heal in normal as long as you don't have tooo many units out there
scarlet mortar
assuming you have a hypercarry, you can kind of burst p2 fast enough that he dies and cancels the mist
lapis hornet
in cm you probs want 2 aoe yeah
old arch
No, I have no hypercarry haha.
lapis hornet
unless you're going with low op strat
if you have other healers like saria nearl etc they help
or self healers like mountain etc
old arch
I see. Hmm. So what I'm thinking then is...
lapis hornet
st medics aren't super useful tho from memory
lapis hornet
you can always borrow a carry though that said
scarlet mortar
too much damage and you'll have to burst heal
bc his mist stacks like five times worst case scenario
old arch
Yeah. It stacked quite a lot.
silent warren
thats what burst heal skills are for ๐คฏ๐คฏ๐คฏ
old arch
Hmmm. Damn that's so hard.
scarlet mortar
(it's true damage and currently no medic solo heals that much)
old arch
That's what killed me, I see.
scarlet mortar
you're looking at two aoe burst medics even if you're allowing two
lapis hornet
do you have ptilo
wait she's blue summon only now right? damn new players actually cucked
old arch
I do have Ptilo.
lapis hornet
e1 70 sl7 worked for me from memory
old arch
I wonder how I can kill him slowly while uh.
Making sure I do actually kill him in time.
Since he'll teleport, presumably, behind my team.
lapis hornet
he takes a long while to get to blue box
use texas/yato or smth
ppl used jaye on him before
scarlet mortar
jaye's pretty dang good against birbphisto bc he alleviates the mist damage on himself
old arch
who's your dps tho
Platinum/Amiya S2.
lapis hornet
are you deadset on not borrowing
scarlet mortar
wait just send your roster again
lapis hornet
that's not a lot of damage
old arch
are you deadset on not borrowing
Nono I can borrow if I have to haha. I'm just trying to do this clear solo first.
old arch
wait just send your roster again
I changed Estelle for Platinum here.
Because in conjunction with Meteor she did a lot of damage to Mephisto.
lapis hornet
oh 5* player
scarlet mortar
roster as in who else you've levelled
lapis hornet
wait
old arch
Oh.
lapis hornet
why siege
lapis hornet
I'm not sure what's the niche here ngl lol
think 5* players use fw or smth
lapluma
old arch
roster as in who else you've levelled
Okay gimme a sec.
scarlet mortar
I'm not sure what's the niche here ngl lol
i mean probs just everyone they like
old arch
Yes LOL.
lapis hornet
who likes courier tho
scarlet mortar
yes people can play the game with ops they like
weak gazelle
ohh not using gamiya instead
old arch
scarlet mortar
they're only on M8-8 lmao
scarlet mortar
wait you have eun
scarlet mortar
time to cook
old arch
I made an exception because I really like her tail.
weak gazelle
ohh mb
keep forgetting
mephisto map is before talu one
old arch
Wait wait.
I don't want to use Eunectes yet (sorry if this makes things hard LOL).
Because I did it on a whim but like.
I will use her and borrow.
Later.
scarlet mortar
would be a pain to charge
ngl she has enough stats to just sit there and chunk him on S1
old arch
Right now I'm trying to utilize my comp that I've had so far.
Anyway, honestly, I have an idea.
scarlet mortar
people keep forgetting duelist defenders have 1k+ atk raw
old arch
I'll save Ptilo S2 for his P2, and I'll look at moving my ops around.
Hmm. Actually...
Yeah.
I do have an idea. I could always deploy Eunectes where he teleports behind my team.
By that point, he's at 50% and she should kill him.
lapis hornet
you can ptilo p1 and have it back for p2
scarlet mortar
for a non-meme strat eun's better coupled with a defender for bot lane
old arch
Oh.
scarlet mortar
then you can just ignore everything there and focus on birbphisto
old arch
you can ptilo p1 and have it back for p2
Oh okay!
old arch
for a non-meme strat eun's better coupled with a defender for bot lane
Hmmm. I see, that makes sense. I'm new to Eunectes so I haven't utilized her much, but uhh. This is how I was doing it earlier.
scarlet mortar
literally eun + cuora solves bot, so plus the medic you have 9 slots left
or even gummy tbh
you've got too many people built lmao i can only come up with meme strats at this point
old arch
Wait wait before that, lemme ask something really quickly haha.
This is the comp I had down there.
Astesia built up massive ASPD because I deployed her early, so she was able to clear the first group of mobs.
Obviously Gummy + Myrrh weren't enough to save me through the dust.
So hmm.
I'm replacing Myrrh with Silence. I also... may or may not keep Blue Poison depending on how that plan goes.
However I'm new to Eunectes, so like. She only charges when she blocks enemies.
That means if I put Eunectes where Astesia is, she won't get any SP?
lapis hornet
she will
old arch
Oh.
Oh hmm.
Uhh. But like, she won't be getting enemy blocks in right?
I swear that's the requirement but maybe I'm wrong lol.
weak gazelle
your eun have no mod yet
so yeah no passive sp regen without blocking
old arch
Or is it when hitting people... hmm.
So how would I deploy Eunectes then.
If I had to guess, directly in front.
Of Gummy.
But I want to make sure.
So enemy leaks through are still blocked by Gummy, and she can attack behind her once she's cleared the front or she gets S3 up.
weak gazelle
yes
try that first
old arch
Okay. I'll try it with Silence first though LOL.
I still want to try and run as much content while not relying overly much on Eunec.
weak gazelle
silence and ptilo seem enough yeah
old arch
Yeah I leveled Eunectes up recently because DV-EX-8 taught me that like, statchecks are a thing.
scarlet mortar
.....ok what if you just, helidropped eun on a centurion
old arch
And I simply might not have enough stats for later. Or just like simly powerful ops that are at least 6*.
So I decided I wanted one more 6-star aside from Siege (newbie banner).
scarlet mortar
surely that won't go horribly wrong
old arch
And out of my roster, Eunectes has the best juiciest tail so I opted for her LOL.
scarlet mortar
eh w/e it's not worth cooking that hard ig
old arch
Wait. Secret ending is really easy then?
Because I'm not triggering his dust.
I'm literally letting him just blast me with his autos.
weak gazelle
that one is very easy yeah
let him go blue box iirc
old arch
Yeah.
From my observation he takes the top box solo so.
Literally just focus on the bottom.
I haven't gotten to the Centurions moving yet but I can always adjust for that after.
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
weak gazelle
top blue box exclusive for him only yeah
the rest go bottom
weak gazelle
hahaha
with your roster is sure hell
lapis hornet
nah
there's a couple idr what they're called
the sarkaz dudes who slam their swords into the ground
there's a couple that go top too
old arch
Nono the secret ending is the hard bit. ๐ญ
Because the first Shieldguard always dies.
Like it's crazy how tight the timing is.
lapis hornet
you did secret m8-6 with that roster?
old arch
No. I had to borrow Surtr LOL.
weak gazelle
ohh some go top?
well, mb idr much about that map
lapis hornet
I'm usually all for playing with whatever you like
but your roster is severely lacking dmg
unless you're a deepcolor god which I'm not so
old arch
Yeah honestly my rationale is simply that like, I really like these guys who've been with me from the start.
So I want to run with my faves and go as far as possible.
old arch
Yeah haha.
Hmm okay at least I know it works.
If I had more time, or if I swapped Eunectes into the bottom, that would've become a non-issue entirely.
I mistime'd Ptilopsis' S2 but w/e. That's fixable too.
Oh thats uh, his P2 form. ๐ค The dust got too intense.
old arch
Yeah. I'm going to try a few more things and if not, I'll just bring Eunectes in LOL.
lapis hornet
centurions can be a pain I think that's what they're called, the big sarkaz guys
old arch
Yep.
old arch
Oh you're doing it too? LOL.
scarlet mortar
oh me neither
old arch
Yeah it's not even P2 either. It's the Centurion dudes you mentioned.
scarlet mortar
old arch
They shredded my bottom lane.
scarlet mortar
old arch
I'm so sad I don't have Meteor's skin. 
It came out during my hiatus and hasn't rerun since...
scarlet mortar
didn't get enough damage on bot so the wave after that died
but yh this looks doable
old arch
Hmm. Interesting.
You moved your bot operators forward..
My Ptilo has mod so she can reach the bottom from that location..
Hmm. I guess...
Thing is, as I understand, the Centurion units are only threatening when they hit everyone.
So the idea is to keep the tanks as isolated as possible in front.
I got it.
Thank you.
Spoiled. ๐ญ LOL.
glass monolith
Doing CM stages 2 years later is having pay back for all suffering it caused me on first clear of stages 
old arch
LOL. ๐ญ After I saw yours, yeah.
The solution came to me.
Siege got helidropped there but, yeah. Super easy solution once I just made sure Ptilopsis could heal everyone. ๐
Oh no even our tank placements are the same.
LOL.
lapis hornet
I mean
don't have a lot of deployable ground tiles anyway
but gg
wait
I think I tried that exact same setup
ig I don' thave e2 gummy and maxed plat/bp/amiya so that cost me cryga
old arch
Okay 0 spoilers please.
But I'm somewhat spoiled uh... from idk, osmosis and just being in this Discord lol.
So like, with my roster.
Will the Talulah fight (and the one after) be:
- Harder than this Mephisto fight?
- Possible in the first place?
gray stone
CR-EX-4 CM got hands damn
polar crane
CR-EX-4 CM got hands damn
need hand hold? 
polar crane
easy event
glass monolith
lethal dragon
Oh it has mo
glass monolith
MO which is done Vanguardless in 3 op 
deft badger
when i don't he magickly appears on f3
deft badger
nah i mean that stupid runner who shoots u over walls
and its not even a single target atk its chains on others
tropic valve
deft badger
6th attempt now
tropic valve
snowpriest hangs out for a long time along the straight line on the upper left
deft badger
yes that guy
tropic valve
good location to kill
deft badger
i have always a problem surviving him
tropic valve
multi-target medics do pretty well
deft badger
i have typhon now i hope that i get him again so that i can destroy him -.-
tropic valve
Typhon S3 works well for killing boss early
although it looks like you still have E1 for now
crisp bolt
s2m3 eyja 
deft badger
that eyja hits like a truck right now
all enemies take 30% more arts dmg and i have some relic that gives 100% more dmg on skill activation
plus spinach
and i lost at the end because i didn't have one hope for eyja lol, because i wanted chalter as well for some reason stupid me ofc
end boss was on 5% i died to ice falling on my head
flat sapphire
hes a afk wnthusiant
Mly s3m3? Exec2 s3m3? Ines s2m3? Afk where?
tidal sedge
Hm. Santalla in SSS. Sounds pretty fun
livid delta
What are the criticisms against Valarqavin
lethal dragon
Mly s3m3? Exec2 s3m3? Ines s2m3? Afk where?
Eyja s2m3
livid delta
I tried her out and she's pretty good from my one run
lethal dragon
Isn't she just overshadowed by arturia
livid delta
if the only reason people don't use a 5* is because there's a 6* that's better then that makes every 5* inherently shit
I'm just asking about her as an operator
crisp bolt
pretty sure the criticism is low damage and takes too long to stack up elemental damage
glass monolith
Either I die or enemy die while i wait for this elemental bar without musical terrorist and module 3 goat
deft badger
hes a afk wnthusiant
only teta understands... ๐
glass monolith
I prefer dopamine and copium from button pressing 
Training myself for anxiety of playing Zuo
deft badger
well next to other heavy hitters i don't see a reason playing eyja on s3 never did actually that's why she never got that s3m3
grave mango
what determines when the boss uses their instakill panel freeze in 4-10?
glass monolith
Skill itself on timer. Which tiles are frozen are RNG LMAO, but limited to be near her
old arch
Hmm.
Talulah is very, very strong..
So hmm. Am I supposed to bait out her Stellar Corona?
The big swipe that wipes out my squad.
glass monolith
Talulah is very, very strong..
(You on JT8-2 right now?) And it somehow gets worse... and then H stages make it even worse
old arch
Oh.
Yeah I am lol.
Hmmm. And she does true damage when blocked.
So deploying Cuora or Gummy doesn't matter.
It also implies that my solution is to kill her before she reaches my blue box.
Since blocking just means whoever's blocking will die.
glass monolith
True means you looking for max HP stat only when looking for blocking candidate
glass monolith
Oh and don't let her walk over bleed tile
old arch
So max hp is one thing... she also attacks relatively fast so Cuora's S2 isn't going to do much tbh.
Oh.
I thought.
That would kill her eventually.
๐ค But obviously I failed so I guess that didn't help lol.
glass monolith
Techically yes, but it give her attack speed and ATK buffs
flint falcon
does any of the dr types from operators work on true dmg? i know hoshi's resist can
old arch
Techically yes, but it give her attack speed and ATK buffs
I see. Yeah and... hahahah. Yeah I see now.
Hmm.
Damn that's such limited space to work with.
Okay. The drone is so easy to take down I take it down before it makes the first turn, so that's nbd.
I could honestly deploy units to hold off the second wave of guys (who enrage and hit faster).
Thing is, while I don't need too many units, Talulah hits across the blue box.
And wipes my team.
I see that this means that I need to kill her before the blood tile... so potentially Amiya S3...?
glass monolith
Shelter specify it only against physical/arts i think, so no DR works. Hoshi just chance to ignore (Oh and i heard Exe alter S2 make him dodge some stuff regardless of damage type)
old arch
But charge time will be insane.
And I won't be able to get the SP in time (probably). I'll try that though...
Hmm.
She's not immune to slow at least so.. I guess that's the idea.
Thank you. I'll brb and try it out.
glass monolith
Damn, she does big damage, blocking is out of question, Amiyaing S3 sounds good
Oh god final wave is not on boss killed trigger
Fuck it I am not good enough at this shit
Ofcourse i can just bring Quartz and laugh in face of this stupid b- and her 1500 true damage swings but that won't help you clear stage 
glass monolith
I FUCKING LOVE RANDOM TIMER DAMAGE TILES AND FUCKING RIGHT SIDE CONSTANTLY SHIFT BLOCKING TO MAKE EVERY FUCKER FOCUS DIFFERENT ENEMY
Good stage
Also e2 20 Amiya s3 is barely short from "soloing" Talubruh in full duration (+ some damage she did while charging skill with normal attack as I used her for UFO at start)
lethal dragon
Is there any need to do it with doberman squad and amiya
glass monolith
Just link Kyo guide and laugh at my brain rot from playing metal ops
lethal dragon
Atleast make them borrow one 6 star smh
glass monolith
That's too simple
deft badger
what are metal ops?
lethal dragon
That's too simple
Make it simple
vivid rain
Just let them borrow mlynar and schwing tal
deft badger
now i am even more confused...
anyway who is better of those 2?
have to lvl one of them up
lethal dragon
Ansel
deft badger
she got her lvlup, attempt 5 on d15
deft badger
is it a boy? ๐
lethal dragon
It's whatever you want it to be
deft badger
leave the woke science out of here pls, don't confuse me
lethal dragon
Yeah Ansel is a male
deft badger
@glass monolith do emergency ops give better drops?
lethal dragon
Better be careful at d15
deft badger
do u ask what i play right now or did i play is2/3
and nope i never seen any difference
deft badger
Better be careful at d15
the only thing that scares me is f3 runner boss, if i don't have mlynar to taunt him lol
dark glade
and nope i never seen any difference
How can you never realize that emergency give guaranteed relic
Or are you asking the exp/ingot drop
deft badger
don't know i thought of them just to be there so that they can make my life harder lol
dark glade
deft badger
nope i just wanted to know if there is any difference between the drops
lethal dragon
Lol
cosmic thicket
Fuck it I am not good enough at this shit
what r u doing rn
is this e1 max 4* + amiya
deft badger
How can you never realize that emergency give guaranteed relic
anyway ty for the info, going to spam them till f5 now always lol
did 6 of them and got every time a relic, i don't have a ๐ง so i didn't realize that till now
dark glade
deft badger
do i take bosky on f3 xD
dark glade
Always take bosky
deft badger
its fine, one emergency with those 4 red stones at the left side of the map and one to the right in the camp
- a other one which is easy anyway
near folio
How much of a priority is Ray if I already have pozy and typhon?
deft badger
nice to have i guess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKbiuMhhMew
merry narwhal
How much of a priority is Ray if I already have pozy and typhon?
she's stronger but you have that niche covered sufficiently
deft badger
i just love how that op shoots something at the other side of the map
with that little hamser or whatever it is
near folio
Maybe I shouldnt have dropped pulls for typhon
The regret is real
So many good ops coming up
Its over
sullen rover
its gnover
deft badger
u are fine
near folio
Ray is cuter
sullen rover
and better
near folio
Im considering skipping Hoederer, Virtuosa and Degen
But I want everything else
Including jessica
deft badger
well skip jessica and hoederer xD
peak cloak
where is your credit card?
deft badger
for virtuosa - degen and ray
near folio
After Ray is Shu and Ela
Idk man Jessica 12 second stun pause trick seems pretty nutty to me
sullen rover
just use ela as a stun bomb bro
deft badger
she is a defender, not limited, u will get her in the future anyway
near folio
she is a defender, not limited, u will get her in the future anyway
I still dont have hoshi ๐
Also dont have caster eyja ๐
deft badger
did play for a year with liskarm and i was fine ๐
near folio
Its been 4 years
deft badger
u are going to skip her for jessica xD
dark glade
Also yea v2 vanner is very skippable if you dont care about them
near folio
How does Degen compare to Irene?
dark glade
Not even close
foggy grove
has iframe,better dmg and more
deft badger
u stress ur self for nothing
sullen rover
skip degen for her rerun and pull ray ๐ฅณ
deft badger
just don't take advices from guru... (or was it guro)
lol
anyway payback time... have been waiting the entire day to face that dude when i am stacked
sullen rover
i remember this map i got the shieldguard and it stole aaks buff lol
deft badger
boy didn't even have a chance...
he destroyed 3 of my 5 attempts (d15) today and i was stacked but didn't have mlynar neither eyja to heal me
deft badger
i remember this map i got the shieldguard and it stole aaks buff lol
why do u have those guys?
deft badger
which one?
sullen rover
the red one
deft badger
w8 if i use two red i get those guys?
sullen rover
ye
deft badger
why non told me that have been asking since 2 days how the hell they spawn sometimes
and i got them most of the time at the end because i buff that stage
the dude is sitting on my exe tile always and i endup leaking lol
this is how u cheat ur way to the end on f5 lol
dark glade
deft badger
did have 1 hp left hahaha
-36 hahaha, found out the hard way exe can't hold left side anymore on his own
tidal sedge
Anyone have advice on this one?
WR-EX-7 CM
I may have an idea, will return with results
civic bear
simple way is to just
block the red guy with same color
by well, use the crackers on the enemy when they walk in range
plain reef
novel pivot
limpid siren
Poison map was fun yea
tidal sedge
EX-8 CM...hmm
pastel juniper
The latest annihilation mission is easy AF!
tidal sedge
The Ideal City one? Yeah
pastel juniper
Yeah, it took me 2 tries to get a perfect strategy to beat it. First attempt is complete blind and used it as guide for the second. Compared to the Firelight cast within the shadow one... Boi, Eblana don't need to show up to make things get ugly!
In fact, I never tried again after the first one.
Those burning reeds are the main antagonist for me.
limpid siren
๐ช
glass monolith
(Points and laughs)
mossy ore
???
foggy grove
you can just change the white tile with cracker or bait the boss skill
the boss skill can change the tile color
tidal sedge
I know that, by the time i noticed the colors changed the blindeys were in the box
tidal sedge
...
And leak earlier...
Bc you get one firecracker
Just. One.
Which is horse crap imo
foggy grove
like i said bait the boss skill
foggy grove
the boss skill has that cross attack thing
scarlet mortar
p1 targets the closest op from him, p2 targets the closest and furthest two
foggy grove
or yeah just use that one cracker to change right tile
scarlet mortar
just deploy accordingly
foggy grove
you don't really need to change it more than once
scarlet mortar
points at the WR-EX-8 LD challenge clear
tidal sedge
just deploy accordingly
Meaning?
scarlet mortar
deploy your ops somewhere that turns the tiles into the colors you want
tidal sedge
Deploy bait to get Free's Warp and Weft to change tiles according to your purposes
scarlet mortar
you technically have full control over that ability
tidal sedge
๐คจ
civic bear
Did u kill the boss at bottom?
tidal sedge
I tried
tidal sedge
Im not doing a 3 op clear...
civic bear
It's only the last blindey right?
tidal sedge
Last two
scarlet mortar
Im not doing a 3 op clear...
not the point
foggy grove
the point is so you can see how they make use of the boss skill
civic bear
Cuz the boss use skill so it changed color the middle 2 right
The solution is to have someone bait the skill so that it doesn't hit that 2 melee tile
The skill targets closest
Do you remember where the last cross skill hit? I assume it hits yato??
Just deploy some random op at the most right ground tile and so it won't hit the colored ground tile
tidal sedge
๐
civic bear
Should do the job
Also just like cwex4
U can retreat everyone
Cuz after that is all
The exploding thing
tidal sedge
Do you remember where the last cross skill hit? I assume it hits yato??
It hit saria iirc
civic bear
Yeah
It hit yato closest
And it's cross
So it hits saria too
Changing saria tile
So she leak
tidal sedge
๐
civic bear
Smth like that I'd assume is what happen
civic bear
Noworries
tidal sedge
๐
civic bear
Smh why aren't u guys just helping the guy
civic bear
First impression is what matters the most
tidal sedge
(Points and laughs)
Was really this that set me off.
civic bear
Anyways gl
A lot of wr stage are build the same
It's mobs - exploding thing-final elite boss wave
tidal sedge
Yeah, thanks for the help. Much appreciated
๐
Tho honestly i think im tapped for tonight
scarlet mortar
Smh why aren't u guys just helping the guy
the stage is finnicky so i just mentioned what the targeting was
but yh
void terrace
Whelp almost time for jessicat
Her redeployment of her sheild is a lot lower than I expected
Is it affected by foldartals and silverash talent etc?
That would be lit
glass monolith
Silverash talent affect redeploy of god damn roadblocks, i would be more surprized if there was something avoiding his talent
void terrace
Damn
Hmmm her base attack is shit low tho
It' like 500 without trust
Even with plus 300% atk it's only like 2000 and her atk interval gets shafted too
I guess it's closer to 2400 with trust and everything
smoky halo
i mean shes a defender
void terrace
Feels like she's falling into the neither here nor there category of dps and tankiness
smoky halo
her shield pretty tanky tho no?
void terrace
Or does she do well enough in the defence section to pull her weight
void terrace
her shield pretty tanky tho no?
Ah true I guess she can basically block 5 enemies
And the sheild can bait attacks
smoky halo
void terrace
Oh that is mad that her sheild has more defence than hoshi on mod
It has about 3.6k hp too
foggy grove
i mean hoshi s3 has pretty low % def compared to normal protector
that said can you heal jess cat pet tho?
void terrace
It's a summon
I guess skalter provides some value??
Well suzuran perhaps
Suzuran jessalter and qiubai would make an interesting laneholding squad
Very tanky defence a lot of block and a lot of stall
noble pewter
Whelp almost time for jessicat
2 more days?
void terrace
Ye
Still experimenting with typhon
And my depot is still crying from Typhon mod 3 m6
glass monolith
Fun and entertaining phase 2 drones
smoky halo
Idk how to beat h12-4
borrow eyja2
glass monolith
Eyjaalter to laugh on elemental damage is only way to ease the pain i know of
glass monolith
You know that shit splashes to adjusted tiles, right?
smoky halo
are you using s3?
static stream
Yeah s3
glass monolith
You didn't clusterf- your entire team like JT8-3, right?
smoky halo
position better
static stream
You know that shit splashes to adjusted tiles, right?
Oh uh
I put everyone near each other
glass monolith
static stream
Idk where to position them tho
glass monolith
#strategy message My checkers placement for this fun stuff (My strat was AH abuse because i had no other strat )
glass monolith
I went AH because i have skill issue and no defender investment
Not to mention it allowed me to reduce amount of pain this boss generate by existing
void terrace
I went AH because i have skill issue and no defender investment
I feel that
AH are usually the best option when the smooth brain hits
Big funny statsticks with dmg reduction and decent damage
shell arch
What's the general recommendation for stainless? S1m3 s3m3 mod3?
strange fable
wait why mod 3
civic bear
Wouldn't recommend
strange fable
why not just mod 1
strange fable
is ur stainless pot 5
shell arch
Pot1
strange fable
dont mod 3 ๐ซก
glass monolith
S1M3 Warf cry in corner
S3M3 damage
shell arch
Thanks. I'll probably wait it out until stainless receives his 2nd mod
๐ซก
I'll just do s3m3 now
near folio
Is Puzzle a good vanguard to secure from vg voucher in IS4?
limpid siren
i'd pick him up temp
i wouldn't pay 4 + 2 hope for him
most days of the week, puzzle is just a good charger
shell arch
What about if you pick him as temp? Do you promote him?
shell arch
True. Couldn't get weirder than m9 cheeto
limpid siren
fair, i only have m6
but returning to puzzle
i think the angle is almost always ines right?
so if a temp is 0 but promote is 2 hope, then like you could probably find yourself in that situation
near folio
But if you get a vanguard voucher who would you pick?
limpid siren
me personally? poncirus usually
near folio
Fang doesnt seem to pop off fast enough
limpid siren
normally, i understand people angle for ines from vg tickets
limpid siren
tough scene
near folio
Ideally would want one that doesnt need the promotion
limpid siren
poncirus has a similar issue wrt speed of first skill pop
so if that's an issue for your fang, it will be an issue for poncirus too
limpid siren
i've tried cantabile a bit, and i'm not blown away but like she does fine
puzzle probably punches at about the same weight class, if i had to guess
near folio
Puzzle has some staying power
near folio
But for canta its hard to use her if you dont have good map knowledge
limpid siren
that's true, but it's also hard to play well if you don't have good map knowledge
so that's not really an issue unique to her
1 block is i think what hurts the pair of them more
near folio
At least you can drop puzzle behind a blocker and let him generate dp from there
With S1
Does some decent damage to mobs
limpid siren
true but if you can get that set up, then you don't need a vanguard anyway
the reason i tend to favour pioneers is because of 2 block vs 1 block on agents, chargers, and flags
shell arch
I think kermit described poncirus in is4 from "let's see what people is yapping about" to "fuck she's cute anyway" to "wow she's bad (due to bad initial sp"
Let me recheck what he exactly said
glass monolith
Puzzle S2 has some good elite sniping power (assuming elite don't come with 95 res lol), but it is such last effort copium
limpid siren
dp pressure isn't that high without the -dp collapse
the pressure is applied to block count instead
glass monolith
You guys not having -dp collapse? 
I swear i have it trigger as first or second collapse in 99% cases, and sure i sleep on vanguard in IS
limpid siren
luck correlates to skill (i lose runs because i'm bad, not because of dp collapse)
shell arch
limpid siren
yea even though i still draft poncirus, i probably wouldn't recommend it
shell arch
I wonder what did ignyus do to Kermit
near folio
I think kermit described poncirus in is4 from "let's see what people is yapping ...
The ironic thing is that she has better initial sp than Courier
Courier S1 is 30 sp 13 initial at M3
Poncirus S2 is 40SP 25 initial
limpid siren
yea, but her selling point is that she can be a decent blocker if you make it far enough into a stage
which means for value you count her initial pop, duration, and then her time to second pop
near folio
But yeah puzzle seems like the only viable non 6 star vg option
Sometimes I bring Fang and its like shes not even changing anything
Early game setup is still hard
limpid siren
i think that's true if you want to really prioritise drafting 6*s, which is a good drafting strategy
at least fang is 0 hope
so it's just 
near folio
limpid siren
won't plume also get shit on
near folio
won't plume also get shit on
At least she gets dp for killing mobs
limpid siren
i feel like that's a red herring
because
the usual issue is like
2+ enemies early
near folio
Hmm
limpid siren
yea like even if plume eventually kills the one enemy she has
she probably just leaks anyway right?
near folio
Im thinking of beanstalk but shes only block 1 before she gets her skills
Courier is too slow as well
There really is no good vg pick from the voucher then
limpid siren
vanguard has always been a fairly weak ticket
near folio
Maybe bagpipe might be godly if I get the support item that gives me 2 emergency retreats
sly pivot
is this like d15
limpid siren
yea but at that point u just draft ines and don't worry about needing relics
near folio
I havent beaten d0 yet
No map knowledge
I always go into a new map and get clapped by something I wasnt prepared for
limpid siren
just get some runs going then
bash your head against the wall until you recognise the dangers of each stage
limpid siren
don't mald so much about ticket picks
limpid siren
more general advice is like
aoe + block count
loads of early stages can be solved by ticking these two boxes
void terrace
Damn Typhon is a surprisingly good candidate for mumu clone
High atk and decent hp for a ranged unit
Aak is quickly becoming another of my favorite clone targets
Eyja and ceobe still are best as arts dmg spammers tho
wicked viper
uh
what sir
she has like 1.1k ish atk
but 2.4s interval
so lol
you want fast attacker so that she can clone more and s3 bind more reliably
near folio
If I get a sniper voucher should I prio Typhon or Pozy?
near folio
Yes
dark glade
Poze doesnt have good tile
sly drift
I find pozy generally more useful than typhon but idk. On is4*
near folio
Do I need typhon S2M3?
bold lance
An AA sniper so the funny drones don't fuck you over
wicked viper
Do I need typhon S2M3?
not really
m0 -> m3 is 35% -> 50%
or ~12% gain
you get more from module than mastery on her
near folio
I see
void terrace
you want fast attacker so that she can clone more and s3 bind more reliably
I don't mind just having 5 mini typhoons obliterate anyone from a million miles either hha
Aak is a really good balance
But I like eyja more since the arts damage goes really hard
Stainless turret can keep spawning new clones too
ocean ether
typhon is really overtuned for old maps lol, she killed everything and exalter couldnt even build his skill once
peak cloak
it's inevitable
polar crane
https://twitter.com/shyshoyuu/status/1769632134543868243?t=3nFveZu0YB_QPJ0HyYpnY...
who is this
peak cloak
who is this
arknights's cc
glass monolith
Guy who was uploading speedrun of killing bosses and sometimes stuff like kill entire stage in single Gladiia S3 + combo with some nuke (firewatch/W etc) or kill entire stage via push into hole clear
lethal dragon
^
lapis hornet
noooooo
propaganda
tidal sedge
Down town annihilation
Good to go right?
glass monolith
You can always close app if it goes wrong, saves sanity
If it is funny annihilation with lane of turrets - Penance is probably waste of slot due being unhealable and all that
glass monolith
It is most pain of all stages or why everyone posting it with energy of "finally done with this hell man"?
gray stone
It is most pain of all stages or why everyone posting it with energy of "finally...
It's a weirdly high resistance event
scarlet mortar
surtr and mud duo NM, surely CM wasn't much harder cluel
gray stone
Matteo is just a big buff for his bodyguards
vital arrow
Down town annihilation
Good to go right?
do you want the easy solution or
tidal sedge
do you want the easy solution or
I don't want anything now
celest kayak
tiny tree
What op a must for m8-6
low rover
i picked up gladiia, heavyrain, ceylon, grani, robin, tequila from the welfare operators. WHo should I get next?
low rover
is kroos now available in the side story?
glass monolith
Check Invitation to Wine for restoration
polar crane
not yet
low rover
hi, i have a question regarding the them of the chapters:
chapter 0 and 1 are somewhat normal, but from my observation, chap 2 has a lot of aerial drones, while chapter 3 has a lot of invis units. what should I expect from chapter 4?
polar crane
hi, i have a question regarding the them of the chapters:
chapter 0 and 1 are so...
strong melee and ranged enemies with high res
low rover
so arts guard is out of the question?
dark tinsel
Hi everyone. Do you guys recomend SilverAsh? I got him a few weeks ago but I tried him and i felt him so weak even for E1 lvl50. But I see a lot of people use him in their teams.
Is his E2 very strong?
I usually use LaPluma and Lappland as my main guards, but im considering to level SilverAsh to E2Lvl60 if is good
polar crane
Hi everyone. Do you guys recomend SilverAsh? I got him a few weeks ago but I tri...
his s3 is his main skill yes
but mlynar is just straight up better than him
glass monolith
Skill 2 is walmart tank replacement if you have none, Second promotion unlock faster redeploy to everything while he in squad which can assist you massively even if you forget about it. S3 does funny damage at price of having next to 0 DEF during it.
flat sapphire
0 def doesn't matter if they're dead 
glass monolith
Some random archer behind you because you didn't notice: 
deft badger
lvl up ur SA, he is a good helidrop op, has even block doesn't read a book like mlynar of skill xD
assuming u don't have mlynar
dark tinsel
Im gonna give him a chance and try his S3 and E2. Thx guys^^
Nope I dont have mlynar, i have been playing like 2 months, im new
I only have Exusiai, Typhon and SA as 6* operators
deft badger
did u e2 typhon
dark tinsel
I have 150 pulls saved for Virtuosa and with a lot of luck Texas alter so i am not pulling banners atm
dark tinsel
did u e2 typhon
Yes, i E2 her with her module lvl3. She is a beast ngl
dark tinsel
he deals good damage still
I will try, thx ^^
deft badger
there is nothing to pull for right now anyway
do SA u will not be disappointed, mlynar does more dmg still doesn't mean SA sucks.. he still probably one of the better guards u can own
dark tinsel
Really? Oh thats so nice then
If someday I get Mlynar i will level him but for the moment SA sounds good
deft badger
they all go plus ultra at e2, feel like trash early ๐
dark tinsel
Damn thats why I didnt think about E2 him hahaha I was like "dude, Lappland deals a ton more dmg than you" xD
somber stone
Average low level phys vs arts experience
dark tinsel
Sorry I am still learning hahaha
glass monolith
Not all skills are good. Not all operators have many combat value. Not all content respect new/unaware players
deft badger
@glass monolith do u think ah can handle ed2 on d15?
tidal sedge
civic bear
looks like a win
deft badger
I predict issue of killing boss too quick causing it to trololo into box
can;t actually do that if u box with a op, he does perma freezes it anyway so its not attacking him just worried if skadi will survive it ๐
glass monolith
You either die as content creator or play long enough to do red box camp
tidal sedge
looks like a win
Ye
Ngl im not sure what went right this time than the other attempts.
But it worked
tidal sedge
Ok this stage is actual bs
solid dew
Ok this stage is actual bs
i remeber that one
vernal lion
crisp bolt
vernal lion
can ah do ed2 on d15?
you mean AH + other op?
deft badger
yes
don't know how much dmg he actually does on d15
but i don't think that he will be able to 2-3 hit skadi
vernal lion
the hardest part is killing the mob,
boss still hits hard enough
you will need medic
deft badger
didn't plan on going in without eyja anyway
vernal lion
boss has 2625 atk at d15
deft badger
that's lower then that runner dudes
vernal lion
the runner is 1985 atk
deft badger
they told me 3k in the is chat today
deft badger
potent flare
broken duo
vernal lion
deft badger
vernal lion
I remember there are like 5-6 of them,
early 1-2, and final with 3-4 or smth
deft badger
they die fast anyway not worried abou them till they buff up
like on that one f5 map
cedar mountain
Hey guys should I build her up )
vernal lion
Hey guys should I build her up )
no, and you don't even need abjurer archetype for now
deft badger
why does help say yes
vernal lion
I saw what you posted
cedar mountain
no, and you don't even need abjurer archetype for now
I see okay then
vernal lion
but still no
glass monolith
Silence alter earner POO 600 for me 
deft badger
look at my brain afk moment...
vernal lion
yea, you're fucked up
deft badger
i insta quit hahaha