strategy

[vital arrow]

the damage is divided between all present ops

[tiny tree]

Bro I'm not going to pull when there no op that interests me with current banner

[scarlet mortar]

that took a while

[vital arrow]

deploy more ops

[scarlet mortar]

[scarlet fulcrum]

even vg yato will do the job

[civic bear]

deploy e0 op

[scarlet mortar]

the mapwide blast does 6k phys total, it's divided by the number of ops on the screen for each op

[tiny tree]

Anyways imma finish chap 7

[vital arrow]

just borrow a mlynar

he just solos patriot

idk why youre going with ling solo without mod

the actual ling solo uses s2 anyways

[scarlet mortar]

borrow penance S3

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u lazy to do boss stage atleast farm kohl all the way

[tiny tree]

I have her mod

[scarlet mortar]

least effort clear

penance solos at SL7 doesn't she

[vital arrow]

and ling s3 isnt the 7-18 solo skill

[spark sinew]

sometimes the easiest answer is to just use older ops

aka just deploy surtr twice

no need to change your usual strat for the stage

[scarlet mortar]

bro has amiya modded

can't he just S3 blast pat

there are any number of really free solns here

[vital arrow]

from the past convo looks like hes struggling on phase 2

[scarlet fulcrum]

She will also survive spear

[scarlet mortar]

borrow a penance

free win

[scarlet fulcrum]

In s3

[vital arrow]

pat snipes their ling

dragons die

they leak

[scarlet fulcrum]

[vital arrow]

meanwhile lancet and 12f are free

[long epoch]

Use Deepcolor S1 to dodge.

[scarlet mortar]

you could not get a cheaper dub than penance solo and co ngl

[spark sinew]

just nuke phase 2?

[scarlet mortar]

do you have to

he walks up to penance and gets reflected to death

[vital arrow]

so jessicalt event is on tuesday?

[spark sinew]

yes

[vital arrow]

finally the good ling skin

[spark sinew]

so we have downtime to push story anyway

[void terrace]

Damn is weeds module worth

[scarlet mortar]

the sheer disrespect to the elderly

[void terrace]

The one where she gets plus 1 push force

Blocking 2 enemies

[spark sinew]

depends

idk I think non gimmicky weedy relevance was for izumik only

in recent events

and the first mod was less shitty to use on it

I'd say don't bother with either 🛌

[scarlet mortar]

weedy's a tech option, in the first place raising her at all is flex

prio for her mods are when there's a CC that uses her lmao

(assuming you bother with CCs)

[void terrace]

Hmmm I guess. Just using her for funny doro strats

But it still does so little dmg

[vital arrow]

weedy isnt supposed to deal damage

[void terrace]

As in the extra dmg from a few doro mines

[scarlet mortar]

if you want to use her as a daily driver ig the second mod is fine

[spark sinew]

nor would she deal damage with the module anyway

[scarlet mortar]

but eh

[vital arrow]

unless youre stacking dorothy crit mines

[void terrace]

Basically I'm just using weedy to clear a couple of tiles when the enemy wave crashes onto my blocker

[vital arrow]

dorothy isnt doing meaningful damage

[spark sinew]

i think weedy is fine in newer accs

[scarlet mortar]

what's the context for using doro anw

[void terrace]

I let them build up there for a bit the stack 5 doro mines (or as many as I can) behind them

Then use weedy to push back

[spark sinew]

but otherwise she just doesn't do well in regular content

[void terrace]

For consistent funny doro nukes

[scarlet mortar]

if this is high diff IS4 doro is just cc

[vital arrow]

idk why would you stack dorothy mines with weedy

when you can just

trigger them with s3

[void terrace]

?

Yeah I mean

[spark sinew]

when you want to waste a slot

[void terrace]

That's how it works

But

When wave crashes and you have no new enemies

And you wanna have a little fun

[vital arrow]

so it is wasting slot

[scarlet mortar]

doro synergizes with cc's and SP batteries to cycle more mines, weedy is kinda meh cc

[spark sinew]

jay is like that

[vital arrow]

last time I used dorothy+weedy combo was

[spark sinew]

after hearing ceobe s2 usage to make a singular stainless turret fire

[scarlet mortar]

like it's funny but for most cases where the elite survives one extra weedy isn't gonna do much

[vital arrow]

basepoint

[spark sinew]

I'm like

[void terrace]

I mean I believe they gave you 12 slots for a reason. Might as well get the most value out of them

[vital arrow]

and it uses dorothy s2m3

[scarlet mortar]

doro S2 is fine

[vital arrow]

and it also uses mostima and elysium

also spalter

[scarlet mortar]

i've gained some respect for it

[void terrace]

But her talent makes each attack do...2 HITS

With atk speed!

[scarlet mortar]

redomegalol this user

[vital arrow]

wait until they hear about exusiai

[void terrace]

Yes but

Exu sucks off skill

I mean my favourite stainless turret operator is still ling

[vital arrow]

I'm pretty sure exy procs turret better than ceobe offskill

[void terrace]

Nothing beats the dragon turret congo line

[void terrace]

Don't ask the logic behind this but basically the whole idea was ceobe would constantly target the turret for aoe physical dmg against enemies below 2000 def, but automatically targets enemies above 2000 def to kill them through her s2

[spark sinew]

what a waste

[void terrace]

Don't ask. I just thought it made sense for a moment

But still

Since stainless turret shreds low def enemies

[vital arrow]

I still dont get the point but if it makes you happy

if it works it works

[void terrace]

I mean I'm just a bored endgame player

But I don't believe in challenge runs

I believe in the opposite: ultra redundancy runs

[spark sinew]

more like you're doing challenge runs

by using your ops very suboptimally

[void terrace]

I mean yes but no. Whole idea is making teams centered around synergistic mechanics. Like this monstrosity:

[spark sinew]

ultra redundancy would be the opposite I'd argue

like giga overkilling the stage

[scarlet mortar]

should've stopped here

[void terrace]

Yes it is over kill

That's the point

But overkill in stupid ways

Like nian and eyjalter buffing pennance barrier

[vital arrow]

idk that looks like a meta squad

[void terrace]

Which is fed by Chen and aak

[spark sinew]

it's not an overkill then

[void terrace]

And Chong is buffed by Chen's sp regen

Who is also fed by stainless

Who in turn reduces DMG for pennance

Like

It's funny

[vital arrow]

if its a full row of *6, they all 'synergize' because each of them are strong individually

[void terrace]

Yes but

There's a difference between throwing high DMG ops

And sliiightly less optimal ops with unique synergies together

[vital arrow]

?

[void terrace]

Like yes you can gavail mylnar and call it a combo

[vital arrow]

that just sounds like subjective preference

more than anything

[void terrace]

But you could also blemi pennance stainless

For faster pennance sp regen

[vital arrow]

chongyue+penance is the same as gavialt+mlynar

[void terrace]

To use pennance as your core

Read the text haha I explained how that particular dumb team works T-T

[vital arrow]

mlynar is the core, gavialt just covers his downtime

[void terrace]

It's just overcomplicatoons

[vital arrow]

its the same thing

[void terrace]

Which I enjoy

[void terrace]

But it's just dmg

No mechanics

Like sp regen

Etc

[vital arrow]

taunt

[void terrace]

That's just mylnar

[vital arrow]

gavialt also has shift

[void terrace]

Ain't no combo there

[vital arrow]

I mean

anything is a combo

[spark sinew]

sp regen is not a mechanic

[void terrace]

It doesn't interact with mylnar

Like the idea is tallents that interact with each other

[vital arrow]

it does because it prevents enemies from passing harder

[void terrace]

More than others normally would

I.e. it's an excuse to use weird ops together

[vital arrow]

thats just

[void terrace]

Like sleep squads

[vital arrow]

"I like weird ops"

[void terrace]

There's a good one

Blemi Kafka blacknight

All synergies around sleep

[vital arrow]

I'm just gonna tap out

[void terrace]

Yes don't ask

It's just funny smooth brain things

I've got to make the most of my account somehow

[vernal lion]

ok now I remember how ass this map with ban tile risk is

[vital arrow]

what were they cooking with these tile bans

[deft badger]

at least u have a place for ur healer if needed 😄

[spark sinew]

where

[spark sinew]

fairly sure some enemies just go to the left blue box

so healer won't reach everything

oh wait those are just cc beta tile bans aren't they

yeah you would much rather use a decel binder

[vital arrow]

would be fun if we can replay old CC stages

and see what kind of strat people would be cooking nowadays

[vernal lion]

have this too

[deft badger]

i remember that one

[vernal lion]

the idea with old cc map is just to survive

we don't have many core op like these days

[deft badger]

btw how do i get to ending 2?

is4

[deft badger]

is it that the helmet thing?

never saw that scar thing or void

[vernal lion]

you need to trade it in Lost and Found, and choose "Raise Collapse Value by 4, but gain an unusual Foldartal"

[deft badger]

does it matter which dif?

[vernal lion]

no

[deft badger]

so i can run the lowest 😄

just want the medal

[vernal lion]

then in Prophecy, choose "Shattered Omen" route and obtain the Treescar Helm by choosing "Search the camp"

[deft badger]

ok

i don't know what that thing is as well...

have ending 2, that thing, lvl65 and valarqvin left

[vernal lion]

also remember to upgrade this node, so it will guarantee there will be at least 1 Lost and Found in the run

[deft badger]

have that...

missing that right part but i think that it doesn't matter

[vernal lion]

in the final Prophecy, you choose the 2nd option which is "Put on the helmet" to get ending 2 route

[deft badger]

will try in a sec in case i mess something up then i will ask again 😄

[spark sinew]

old cc stages would be so easy nowadays

but yeah i do want them

even to just recreate the high risk clears we did before

(but now i actually have units to do them)

[deft badger]

went to buy something to drink so...
i can go on d0 and do ending 2 will be the same?

[vernal lion]

yes

[deft badger]

have to see how that boss even looks like

[spark sinew]

you will lose probably

[vernal lion]

if you don't want to lose first time, you can spoil yourself

[spark sinew]

but boss is really trivial after

[deft badger]

the hell is this dude

seems like a AH moment.. 😄

can i use a 1 block op to hold him in place

[spark sinew]

ah brainrot...

[deft badger]

hahahaha

well the moment i saw him standing there punching that thing and the op is frozen in place i thought about skadi gladiia

bring typhon or mlynar to hit him out of his freez range and just don't give a f-

if a 1 block op can hold him

[spark sinew]

lol

ngl you should've read prts page about him or smth

instead of the vid

because you basically missed the entire gimmick

no spoilers from me though

[deft badger]

i am watching seems like he starts running when he drops a certain amount of hp

and u didn't wanna tell me that just for the fun lol

[spark sinew]

i take no fun in this

make no mistake

[deft badger]

no not at all, i know u like to watch me suffer

so i should bring full AH team to hold him when he starts running

don't wanna read, what i have seen in the video he starts running at 30-50-70%

immune to blind and slow, can i freeze him?

[vernal lion]

no too

[void terrace]

Mostima

[deft badger]

ok i have now those two

[vernal lion]

ok, combine and change the right node from your current node

[latent halo]

30 minute stage

[deft badger]

does it matter on which floor standing infront the boss right now..

[flint apex]

okay erm guys i finally brought an operator to e2 so now i could borrow a lvl90 ling to clear dv-7 but for some reason it doesnt work like in the videos i cant seem to deal enough dmg to kill the mobs before i get overwhelmed, any help? am, i doing soemthing wrong?

[vernal lion]

you make that before the final Prophecy, so as long as you have a node to change to ed2 Prophecy, it still works

[latent halo]

idk which vid u copying

[flint apex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF3oLdvjxts

i tried to follow this but for some reason i cant seem to kill the initial 3 pointy robot things fast enuf

[vernal lion]

don't try that, it's really needed max out Ling

try this instead

ugh I think I will make a video for you

[flint apex]

YOU ARE A SAINT NAGA! A SAINT!

[vernal lion]

how does the Ling you borrow? I mean about level and skill and mod too

[spark sinew]

i would friend someone with ling

[flint apex]

well i sent a request haha i got it by refreshing

[spark sinew]

especially will help you later on

[flint apex]

Oh Is it because of this? The skill specialisation is limited maybe I have to level my e2 more? It's only lvl 1 atm

[vernal lion]

it's level 7, and you need to make friend to them to have their mastery on skill too

[flint apex]

ohhh okay

[vernal lion]

ok I will try this Ling, level 69 is not max, so dragon stat will be weaker,
it may be balance to lv90 Ling

[spark sinew]

or you could add him as a friend

[flint apex]

Could i add you naga please haah i will be very active with clues

[latent anvil]

[spark sinew]

should've started with that

i can add you

[flint apex]

Yggdrasil#2815

[deft badger]

how is hauck going to make place in his FL

kicking me ofc lol

[spark sinew]

smart man

[latent anvil]

pro

[deft badger]

hahahahaha

more clues for svb...

[spark sinew]

(if anything it's you that kicked me the first time around)

[deft badger]

no u latterly kicked me for some random dude

[spark sinew]

for your alt, yes

because you literally told me to

[deft badger]

2nd time u replaced my main for alt

now i have u again lol

nah nah first time u did have to make place for some guy who was asking for help and u did kick me

[spark sinew]

sent

[deft badger]

i will never forget

[spark sinew]

should've kicked you again

alas

[flint apex]

thank ye

[flint apex]

ayeee much thanks! have finally cleared it, dont need the video now naga thank you very very much

[vernal lion]

aight

[sweet flower]

Need a team for H12-3

[vernal lion]

how is your roster

[vernal lion]

alright you have Eyja alter built too

[deft badger]

i didn't menage to get spalter

[vernal lion]

the first wave is civis, so you will need op with numerous block count and low dp cost

the easiest to use is Noir Corne, and some other 3 star defenders

[polar crane]

3 block robot

[sweet flower]

the problem in that stage is damazti phase 2

[deft badger]

i did watch a video so i know whats inc

[vernal lion]

I'm not talking about you lol

[deft badger]

i will block the boss with spot hope he will survive and let eyja heal him

lol

[dusty cedar]

eyja is all the sustain you need. gavi and kelsey to block and output (gavi in the middle area, kelsey handling right side), mlynar becaues mlynar, probably bring a FRD or two in case. your opener should be kelsey right side, followed by mlynar then everyone else. good luck!

[vernal lion]

so how did you lose, the boss killed all your melee op?

yea Eyja alter is very busted here

[sweet flower]

kill mlynar

i dont have any melee to sweep these annoying drones

[vernal lion]

h12-3 or h12-4 ?

[sweet flower]

3

[vernal lion]

h12-3 doesn't have drone

or you mean the boss drone

[sweet flower]

that's it

[dusty cedar]

oh the hands

[sweet flower]

they keep nuking my ops

[dusty cedar]

you may always bring an extra medic

[vernal lion]

the drone isn't much issue, it's the cross-shaped burst dmg

[sweet flower]

i bring only 2 medics and 6 defenders

[dusty cedar]

yeah, the cross-shape will nuke everyone if you cluster them together

[sweet flower]

i deploy cross

but that burst make mlynar dead

[vernal lion]

yea, you need to deploy Mlynar in better spot

[sweet flower]

i put in this place

[dusty cedar]

then do not put anybody else above or below or beside mlynar

or horse suffers burst dmg

let me send a pic of how i did my run

[sweet flower]

1.eyja

2.mlynar

3.ptilopsis

4.chalter

5 and 6 : defender

7 : kaltsit

8. Mont3r

[vernal lion]

wait, if 2 is Mlynar, how can you block them?

[sweet flower]

civis?

or these heck 3 block required

[dusty cedar]

mlynar should be safe with that setup

[vernal lion]

alright, I just think of the caster from left side

[spark sinew]

typhon tile of all time

[dusty cedar]

like this kind of setup, where mlynar does not block

[spark sinew]

could probably tank with ines, at least with eyja s3

[sweet flower]

i dont have hoshi or saria

[dusty cedar]

oh, my apologies

[vernal lion]

I still wonder how can Mlynar die then

[dusty cedar]

you can substitute hoshi with another blocker, but maybe bring an extra medic

same for saria i think, or you can try borrowing a support unit

[sweet flower]

borrowed chalter

but i think i will borrow saria

[dusty cedar]

that is a good idea

[cosmic thicket]

eyja alter makes the stage much harder to lose

[sweet flower]

about the hoshi place , which op i can replace

[vernal lion]

it's simple question, just use those with highest hp

[sweet flower]

i dont want to use zumama for that place

[vernal lion]

because boss will make all your op 0 def anyway

[cosmic thicket]

cardigan is awesome

[dusty cedar]

oohhh i have a big brain moment

try replacing hoshi with gladiia for her regen and resistance talent

[sweet flower]

about block

[vernal lion]

tbh op with higher than 25 dp cost isn't welcome in here

basic defender is fine

just need high hp and more block count

[dusty cedar]

i was thinking saria or gummy 👀

[sweet flower]

was using gummy

ima go to m3 my mlynar (everything is 0 for m3)

[deft badger]

@spark sinew and i won 🫡

[sweet flower]

nakabdksjaksndjdnd

basically i hate how i keep spending t5 mats for mod 3 some ops

[cosmic thicket]

i used gummy for H12-3 but im p sure if you have both her and cardigan at e1 cardigan is better

higher max HP and her regen is controllable

[sweet flower]

my cardigan is max level

ok lemme try

[vernal lion]

yea, just try it again

[deft badger]

u have eyja so whats the problem 😄

[vernal lion]

eyja can lower the elemental built-up dmg but not cure their 0 def

the dmg from boss is still way higher than Eyja hps

[deft badger]

my team was much worst then his when i was doing H12-3

gummy tanking right spalter left

lumen healing xD

[cosmic thicket]

you know a silly thought i had

what if the burning tire tile was replaced with an originium altar

[deft badger]

only dmg that was hard to heal is coming from the 🎈

[deft badger]

here is a cleaner one with less ops and non trolling from me...
spalter isn't needed btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq8bbdgfVF4

[pallid elk]

how do people tend to handle the crocodile braves/champions in the new annihilation? try and slow and kill them before they hit the defensive line? or use some whacked out defender to kill them?

[deft badger]

i guess u can kill them on spawn, if u have broken s- then u can just let them run in to ur defender

smartest would be probably spawn kill before they get in to the car

[pallid elk]

right yeah, probably block the car separately to let them die at spawn?

[glass monolith]

Astgenne spawncamped most for me. Then Gladiia + Ange assist some of them in seeing Aquapit (Lmao, text of anni stage suggest we just keeping drunk Sargon+Durin combo in control during celebration of new Aquapit)

[merry narwhal]

A chain caster on the left side can deal with most trash (=def shred Crocs). If you let the car pick up the Braves, they copy the cars' path and only go bottom lane, so you can use a defender for top lane and a strong guard for bot lane

If your guard can't kill a car from half health you can put another defender behind them

[ornate jasper]

What do emergency ops do in integrated strategies?

[glass monolith]

It is like CM version of stage

Harder version of enemies. Or more enemies. Or some enemy buff

But you get guaranteed relic if you survive

Wait emergency ops, not stage?

[turbid badge]

emergency ops

isnt that a stage

[glass monolith]

My IQ take dive each time i am sick because my brain cope with heat by not doing brain

Emergency OPeration
Temporary OPerators
Like srly i don't gonna try guessing which Ops we talk about

[turbid badge]

yea

operation, operator

cring

[flint falcon]

ppl also refers to stages as ops?

[scarlet fulcrum]

only games refer it as ops so far

They just want to shorten it ig, combat ops, emergency ops, tho temporary recruitment still written as it is till now. tho ppl shorten it with temp ops usually

[surreal lily]

I hate H8-4 😃

[mossy ore]

dont we all

[wicked viper]

it is hard on the first try

until you start doing the worse stages

which you will find h8-4 still tame in comparison

for average player, h8-4 prob need more micro management than usual

[turbid badge]

s3 faming

coolest part is that it stays like that

until something gets into circle

🤑

cm stonks

[spark sinew]

can lancet tank the minimalist in anni

the stun thingy

idr if it even does damage...

[turbid badge]

3x3 stun?

it doesnt do damage

lol

only red

does

[spark sinew]

so this should overkill probably

[turbid badge]

why hauckindu use siege

[spark sinew]

she has good s1

[turbid badge]

haukcindu where typhon

u use old thorns

[spark sinew]

sorry i only use good units

like siege

no lappland, no

that's thorns

[latent anvil]

[spark sinew]

def should've put horn to the left of thorns

thought maybe hoshi will leak some stuff but that's not gonna happen

[turbid badge]

u have 4 block/

?

[spark sinew]

i have superior

modless hoshi

wow saria shreds dueliest croc

i'm too used to IS stats on enemies

[turbid badge]

is that second modu;e

dont forget that saria skalter buffed

[spark sinew]

ngl i'm concerned

thorns attacked the boss for minutes

[turbid badge]

dam haukcindu

cooked

dw the boss spins like 3 times lol

[spark sinew]

nvm it's thorns being bad, eyja s2 did fine

[foggy grove]

nah it's because thorns chipping his 9k barrier first

[sweet flower]

i need a team for H12-3

[scarlet mortar]

ok step 1, tap the "quick select" button on your squad selection screen

[tidal sedge]

is Jessicalter a must pull?

sad cat alter

[spark sinew]

no

didn't you ask this before

like 4 times

[dark glade]

No

Do i do a 10 pull?

I let you decide

[spark sinew]

how many pulls do you have

if you get her in 10 pulls you didn't just get 6* in 10 pulls

you just used your "guaranteed" degen/whatever in 10 pulls and swapped it for jess

but you do know that

[dark glade]

I do know that

[dark glade]

And yes i do think about this too

The worst is just 10 extra pull if i get super unlucky at degen

[spark sinew]

personally I'm whatever about her design so i fully skip

[dark glade]

Ok

1 pull it is

[spark sinew]

i also dislike the "grown up" chars
anyway

[turbid badge]

old?

gramma

[spark sinew]

i prefer older chars for gacha stabdards anyway

but giving bigger boobs to the character doesn't just make them better

even though that's how every single one operates when aging chars

[limpid siren]

welfare is a grandma this time, so good news for you

[turbid badge]

coldshart

[spark sinew]

with ginormous chest, yes

who'd thought

[turbid badge]

wow tachankas pretty old

[spark sinew]

males are immune

they're also immune to being short

typical

[turbid badge]

how tall is hoehoe

[cosmic thicket]

he's 185 cm

[spark sinew]

no need for clues, i also swapped ling out and deleted you accidentally (but if you need any support, feel free to ping and i can kick someone and add you)

[turbid badge]

using fuze s2, focus on the....remember .....focus on the tas-.....remember...focus on th-...focus on the....focus...remember....Focus on the task at hand

trol

doc s2 can wallhack funnys

[flint apex]

ayee thanks mate!

[turbid badge]

doc only r6 that cant hit air?

[foggy grove]

real

[turbid badge]

idk if iana doll can hit air

anyways r6 roster looks pretty solid

solid enough to have fun atleast

boss killer trapmaster real

[wicked viper]

she can

[crystal cargo]

stand!!!!

is that a..............

reference..........

[turbid badge]

no

[crystal cargo]

[void terrace]

How good is sadcat alter?

I heard she's coming next

She seems quite funny

[spark sinew]

is she also cute

[void terrace]

Damage wise she seems ok?

Her s3 drops atk interval but there's a pretty high atk buff

Plus the nuke

Her shields defence on skill is absurdly high as well

[flint apex]

Hey hauc could you put back ling real quick i think i leveled my healer enough to take on dv-8 now, but i dont think you deleted me tho hahaha still friends here

[spark sinew]

i 100% deleted you

add me back (the only Hauckindu)

[flint apex]

eh oh i read it wrongly i saw hakomac instead haha

okay yep sent

[sly drift]

Holy shit. This boss is disgusting

[spark sinew]

added

[void terrace]

The charged up tower clears seed beds around it

In it's range

Cluster your ops there

[spark sinew]

UnknownM dug himself a grave

I'll add him back later, probably

[void terrace]

Reed Sandwich plus saria and texalter is the way to go

Can easily one cycle the boss for one charged up tower activation

[latent anvil]

[sweet flower]

anyone help me H12-3

keep leaking these big elites

[dark glade]

[void terrace]

Squad?

[sweet flower]

i keep swapping a lot so basically idk

rooster

[void terrace]

Gavail and kalt can block them. But realistically you want to let them walk around the circle and kill them with ranged ops, Dorothy or kirin

[sweet flower]

#strategy message

mont3r cant stall damazti for a long time

[void terrace]

When the last damazti comes out just nuke the other clones with mylnar and chalter

[sweet flower]

actually my mlynar keep being nuked by 4rd clone

[void terrace]

Where's your mylnar

Are you borrowing him

[sweet flower]

no , i borrow chalter

[sweet flower]

waiting lemme edit

1.mlynar

2.gavialter

3.eyja alter

4.horn (borrowed)

5.cardigan/gummy

6.Lumen

7.kaltsit
8.mont3r

that's all

[void terrace]

Bruh your mylnar is alone

Damazti instantly targets the most isolated op

Just bait the skill before his 2nd phase reaches half hp

[sweet flower]

uhm

the problem here is i keep leaking these big elites

damazti isnt big problem at all

[void terrace]

Cycle mylnar and chalter to kill tjem

Or horn

[sweet flower]

i can only borrow horn (mostly support unit def all of them are juggernauts)

saria no one set

so should i switch any skills?

[small spindle]

If your problem is with the big swordmen then your gavialter is probably the problem since they have high stats. Monster with s3 can kill one of them iirc. You can try putting monster in gavialter's place. As for the sniper lanes, many solo laneholder can work. Even moduled gladiia can handle that lane with s3 iirc

[sweet flower]

actually the problem here is my gavialter was stalling damazti clone

[small spindle]

Yea there will be one clone there later

[sweet flower]

should i switch skills? I dont think gavialter s2 working

[small spindle]

You might as well try

[sweet flower]

5 block maybe is the choice

to solve this problem

[small spindle]

If horn isn't doing anything good you might as well not borrow her and borrow chalter instead

She can help deal damage to the swordmen and her s3 slows them down

[sweet flower]

i borrow her for stalling (i knew this is dumb but i cant borrow saria)

[small spindle]

Just switch between your defenders

[sweet flower]

well i set horn into that place to make sure that horn can deal some extra damage to these big swords

[small spindle]

They die because their def reached 0. Cycle your defenders everytime this is about to happen to keep damazty in place

[sweet flower]

actually no one die

[small spindle]

Well that clearly doesn't work now does it?

If it worked you would have won already

[sweet flower]

i only see the work as stalling , horn only deal 80% hp bar

[vivid rain]

Basically you have too much stall but not enough dps

[sweet flower]

Ok i might be try with gavialter s3

as i said , i keep leaking in gavialter lane

[small spindle]

You do you

[vivid rain]

I cant do this anymore im out

[sweet flower]

im battling here

[polar crane]

try this

you can replace jessica with kal
silence with skalter
and shu with saria

right side mudrock solo

[sweet flower]

I dont think i have enough , i dont have saria tho

anyways somehow

[normal heron]

leak 1

[sweet flower]

ima leave

[polar crane]

mudrock die I forgot the guy eat

I waste 10 mins

[sweet flower]

i think gavialter s3 is a good option to use

while stalling?

[polar crane]

ye

[void terrace]

Hmmm are there any ways to make mizuki more viable

On one hand I want to use him as a proper DPS to sit in front of Nian or something and slowly chip enemjes

On the other than I want to yeet him deep into enemy lines throw doro mines about him

Is his s1 actually decent or is it just copium?

His s2 actually looks pretty sick now that I see the 15 sp cycle

Combo him with carne or qiubai for lots of binds

[shell arch]

Lvl90 s1m3 mod3 hits like 2.6k arts dmg per skill activation

The problem is it only applies to 2 lowest hp enemies on his range

My personal rating of him is that he's a qol in sss

Then again most people do specB and i run specA

[void terrace]

I mean he has true aoe mixed phys and arts which isn't the best

But it's something

I'm looking at his s2 s rapid cycle time

[shell arch]

Yeah I've been getting his d2 is a decent bind as well

Not as good as ethan but his 2nd module gives him self sustainability

[spark sinew]

wtf

why would you give him a second module

[civic bear]

Ynot

[shell arch]

Yeah i recommend his s1m3 + 1st mod3 though

[scarlet mortar]

"isn't the best" he eats the DV-7 mechs

S1M3 with Xmod has surprisingly high numbers

[shell arch]

Need at least mod2

Mod1 don't improve his s1

[scarlet mortar]

also his autos still do a bit of arts so he works on stationary mechd

i mean duh

Xmod2 or bust

zook S1 phantom S2 duos DV-8

[shell arch]

Xmod3 or bust

[scarlet mortar]

i would do that but ik people still need the mats

[scarlet mortar]

tbh more surprising ig that they duo DV-7 than DV-8

zook just devours bot lane

[steep coral]

typhon mini

[scarlet mortar]

CM time

enjoy the condition

[steep coral]

rip da

cant pas dx 7 challenge and dx8

too hard

[scarlet mortar]

dorosweep

actually isn't EX-7 CM irrelevant

you have SA

it's just stat diff compared to NM

[spark sinew]

@cosmic dagger can you put ray on sup

[ivory nimbus]

Why's she not doing at least 1.5k per arrows?

[glass monolith]

Moduleless?

All year 4 AK event has name capable to rival modern manga name lenghts?

[void terrace]

Dang it if only Jessica wasn't so close

I want to finally raise my mizuki

[glass monolith]

As lover of random niche shiet i would pull Jess. But Shu, Zuo, R6 collabs exist so i will cope offbanners

[spark sinew]

mizuki is perfect to pair with jess

[glass monolith]

I think he means he will go farm defender chips over specialist chips now

[spark sinew]

not having spares

[glass monolith]

Experience I can relate to... Ignore 4 medic dual chips, I misscrafted

WAIT I CAN'T E2 PURESTREAM BECAUSE I DONT HAVE CHIPS NOW

[tall cairn]

Why you wanna e2 Purestream.

[glass monolith]

4 second status resistance

Mechanic i don't have covered

And Jess alt bos stuns

[peak cloak]

she doesnt use t5 chips so thats why

[tall cairn]

[glass monolith]

i was doing 4 defender chips but missclicked and did 4 medic first. I guess Lumen now a little higher on e2 priority list for me

[spark sinew]

what

he stuns?

i mean tbf that's not what you should be concerned about anyway...

[glass monolith]

I think he is

[spark sinew]

on TN just dropping 2 units was enough tbh

idt he even stun immune

so like, reedic sandwich should work

or like ntrk + yato

[glass monolith]

You want to kill him
I want to QUARTZ him

[vernal lion]

nah you don't care about stun, you care about how to survive

[void terrace]

Wtf is that

The new event is that rough?

[spark sinew]

why would it be rough for a man with p5 mlynar

[void terrace]

Yes but what about pennance T-T

[vernal lion]

it's rough if you don't read mechanism

[void terrace]

I didn't realize cliffs DMG was that high

[glass monolith]

Remember people were asking where their Mlynar went on H12-4 because he got to 0 DEF and died of cringe?

[spark sinew]

eh i think devices aren't even adjacent to the boss

so you can even typhon it

but even on TN

[wicked viper]

cliff has like 1.5k atk, his skill lock down and hit 3 times / 6 times on phase 2

so ya

[spark sinew]

typhon dumps majority of arrows into them

[wicked viper]

most likely instant death

[spark sinew]

and she still does a decent chunk of damage

[vernal lion]

and the most important part is when he completely killed your ally, or you retreat the ally that is his current target, he will dash ~1.5 tile away of his path

[spark sinew]

and refresh his skill

[vernal lion]

so like, Degen but more busted

[wicked viper]

that previous cliff gif is TN-1

but is TN cliff stronger than CV-ex-8 CM

afaik

[spark sinew]

wtf that was the stronger version?

wow he's a joke

[wicked viper]

since they consider TN-1 to be the starting point

he might be nerfed

[spark sinew]

so kinda like andoian, zoning you out

[wicked viper]

ya

TN-1 cliff use lv0 stats

only 60 res

[spark sinew]

so normal mode cliff

[wicked viper]

lv1 has 70 res

[spark sinew]

weird how low op uses ceobe anyway

but idr his def

[wicked viper]

he has a lot of def

2500 def on phase 1

3500 on phase 2

[spark sinew]

hmmm

[wicked viper]

only 52k hp and 1265/1416 atk on TN-1 spectacular trial

CV-EX-8 CM cliff has 78k hp, 1560/1872 atk

altho TN cliff get less debuff

[glass monolith]

Nah i'd win

[solid dew]

is it phys dmg?

[glass monolith]

Boss skill cycle - 30 seconds
Silence Alter S2 - 36 seconds
+e2 Ptilo - 30.5 seconds
Everywhere i go, i see Ptilo stage 2/3 module laughing at me

[vernal lion]

physical dmg + armor penetration debuff

[south sage]

What's the stats of the current event's boss in EX?

I wanna speedrun it because i fucking forgot to do it.

[solid dew]

wait what
wats the debuff?

[vernal lion]

each of boss attack will lower the def of the target in a period of time (~6 second or smth) and stack no limit

[solid dew]

cant hoshi
is it perma?

[vernal lion]

no it's not perma, it's around 6 sec

and stack no limit

so like if the boss attack fast enough, he can make your op to 0 def too

[solid dew]

oh sorry, thought the 6 sec was something different
is it a flat debuff or %?

[vernal lion]

flat

[solid dew]

were so back

[glass monolith]

Shit, boss stun is 6 seconds and he blast entire mag in second, i need to cook something

[wicked viper]

boss reduce 150 def for every attack

his skill hit 6 times so 900 def gone

[vernal lion]

in 6 sec, 6 times of skill hit + 2 more hits = 1200 def gone

also atk int in p2 is 2s/h

[sweet flower]

H12-4 kinda ultra disaster right

[foggy grove]

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moN0_s00GdE

[south sage]

I wish i had image perms

So i could flex my 30 minute clutch on getting the medal set, lmao.

Oh wait, wrong channel.

Fuck.

[flint apex]

ayeee @spark sinew u can remove your ling now and add someone else if you rly need to haha

ive managed to clear the event n cleared the store but only couldnt manage to do CM-5 to CM-8 haha

[spark sinew]

it's fine, UnknownM proposed himself as a sacrifice

feel free to ping for some other stuff if you need

[flint apex]

thank ye thank ye couldnt have done this without u and nagas advice to promote courier haha

[coral mist]

Question, could this layout survive the 400-count annihilation?

[vernal lion]

what with that top camp tho

[foggy grove]

you don't need hoshi and spalter there

[coral mist]

My main concern there is that hoshi always die when getting swarmed by those trident mfs so i figure I'd put a dollkeeper in front of her

[spark sinew]

especially unnecessary since you have hoshi

[vernal lion]

and that will propably leak in Surtr lane

because mob spam from left side will come to right and to the middle box

and you need to deal with that first if you don't want to get overwhelmed by horde

you don't even have a real aoe dmg there

[foggy grove]

surtr lane is screaming leaks yeah

[coral mist]

Would Mudrock suffice as replacement?

[spark sinew]

what's chalter for

I'm very confused why your hoshi was dying tbh

especially with ng

do they hit harder in "melee"?

[foggy grove]

trident doing arts

[spark sinew]

hence why i mentioned ng

[vernal lion]

that's not his pic

[spark sinew]

a lot of units matched

but that would explain it

[coral mist]

It's mine actually, that's the first team i tried before having like 6 of em leak in the lanes

[vernal lion]

it's your placement issue, not your op really

when I saw you put Surtr in that spot, I wonder if you really know that that box is like 80% mob will enter in there

[coral mist]

ig it's coz she's just E2L30 and haven't had any modules unlocked in her

[spark sinew]

gavialter below thorns and hoshi above thorns would be my picks?
and like chalter maybe on the left

modules shouldn't affect it i think but yeah, maybe the levels

[coral mist]

These are their current levels

[vernal lion]

this squad is totally fine to do

[spark sinew]

ceobe s3

[vernal lion]

do you want auto or just 400 kills

[foggy grove]

oh i didn't realize dv ended today

[vernal lion]

I will post here if you need

[peak cloak]

Lancet gaming

[deft badger]

hmmm now we rushing events?

[modern plover]

Its not standard?

[vernal lion]

ofc it's not standard banner now bruh

[spark sinew]

it's standard one

[modern plover]

I mean the event rate is normal

[spark sinew]

well assuming you mean it like distinction between limited/collab/standard/celebration

[modern plover]

Her debut banner is definitely a rate up one

[foggy grove]

nah he is aying we are not rushing

[deft badger]

expected her in like 2 weeks+

its a bit over 14 days that typhon ended

[modern plover]

Was the time the same as when mlynar is debut as well?
Both of them are from just mini side story banner

[glass monolith]

Dude we will have 2 dead weeks of chapter 13 and dead week of DoS what else you want?

[spark sinew]

why would that matter

[deft badger]

that's not how it was meant, they have been running so late on typhon now they just slap jess in to the game
i don't care but i was mad that i have been waiting for typhon so much

[glass monolith]

Because Typhon mirror Dorothy fate

For whatever fucking reason

[deft badger]

she getting anyway just 10 pulls from me 😛

[spark sinew]

[glass monolith]

I will choke this F, took me 123

[spark sinew]

way to waste 10 pulls

regardless of the outcome

[glass monolith]

Outcome: Surtr Mlynar Typhon Kaltsit

[deft badger]

10 because i need to buy that thing... 😄

and am missing 4 yellows

[glass monolith]

[spark sinew]

even worse, why tf would you buy this

[glass monolith]

You missing 124

[deft badger]

never get them all

[spark sinew]

you constantly boast that you have 1k pulls

i can't

[deft badger]

not this month for sure

[deft badger]

u are the dude mentioning my pulls all the time not me lol

[spark sinew]

you can ping me now btw

i won't see it anyway

[deft badger]

hahaha

2 months later he found the mute button

[spark sinew]

some people deserve second chances
unfortunately i'm a poor judge of character

[deft badger]

btw why are u not on my friend list hahaha

[wicked viper]

he does not listen

[deft badger]

cant even emote on his comments lol

[wicked viper]

jessica banner is by far one of the worst banners so far

so theres no winning when pulling really

[atomic monolith]

So how's Typhon in SSS?

[wicked viper]

uh

[deft badger]

she fun..

[wicked viper]

slow af

like lol

single target

and slow set up

[spark sinew]

they have 2 base ops

[wicked viper]

very bad for SSS

[spark sinew]

and somehow this banner is underwhelming enough for even base nerds to skip

[wicked viper]

especially since she is a range

[glass monolith]

2based4me

[spark sinew]

sad, really

[wicked viper]

which is worse than melee carry

also the only stack that benefit her a lot is like

caster B

which is terrible fodder

[spark sinew]

you were cosplaying valarq and told me your future

[wicked viper]

hoederer is quite bad too

[deft badger]

looking forward for virtuosa and degen, i am going to pull blue banners now 😄

[wicked viper]

but after virtuosa

we will get better banners

[spark sinew]

how bad was vendela really

[wicked viper]

uh

[spark sinew]

compared to hibilter

[wicked viper]

unsalvagable from what im seeing

you rather use hibi alt

[spark sinew]

oh?

[wicked viper]

like

she give an ally thorns effect

like hoshi

[spark sinew]

one thing i really dislike about hibi is that she's like

[atomic monolith]

Typhon bad even with the sniper buffs?

[wicked viper]

does ~500 art per reflect

[spark sinew]

giga watered down reedic
and fragile doesn't stack

[wicked viper]

well sniper buff work

but not optimal

[spark sinew]

and there's 0 reason to not use reedic outside of like, 5* only or sarkazknights

500 arts doesn't seem bad

[wicked viper]

this skill is quite questionable

well

its reflect only

[polar crane]

[deft badger]

don't know what u expect her of doing, but she is fine with sniper buffs in sss

[spark sinew]

also like, she continues to attack anyway so worst case it's just 80% atk buff

[wicked viper]

hibi alt is like 700 per sec already

[spark sinew]

with decent cycling?

[wicked viper]

eh

33% uptime is not quite strong

[spark sinew]

hibi stops attacking

[wicked viper]

for 5* player

i can see the funny combo with vendela + czerny

lol

[vernal lion]

thankfully that I have stocked alot for kolh, so I only care about device in ZT

[glass monolith]

Uh... Where is event to farm chapter 13 material

[polar crane]

too soon
they're cooking next side story event trust me

[glass monolith]

Shit i need to go rush some story CMs for touch grass collab skins, don't want to cope entire year for potential rerun if they be rerunning like Thorns skin

[spark sinew]

i think the only unit that uses it is like

Ela

because i think i don't have enough for sl7

so even if you procrastinate super hard you're not punished

[foggy grove]

imagine still having cm for op

[spark sinew]

clear everything and stockpile PO instead

[spark sinew]

waiit, degen was before reedic rerun?

and in fact, right after arturia?

wow we have boring stuff before that then

[limpid siren]

They both suck

Hibiscus attack sfx is also disproportionately loud

[lapis hornet]

hibi cutest arknights character tho all that matters

[limpid siren]

[spark sinew]

weird how you think hibi sucks

i usually roll with 6* and hibi is...fine ish for my tastes

[limpid siren]

I use her too

Doesn’t mean she isn’t copium

[vernal lion]

yes, it's exactly 3 days after for reedic event

[spark sinew]

i mean compared to other 5*...

although if you think that 5* have very few good ops, sure

[limpid siren]

I think hibiscus the purifier is lucky i like to use a variety of units

She’s not the only one in this bucket

[spark sinew]

oh...

yeah i might be thinking too much about IS

she role compresses quite a bit

obviously if you can just use ptilo for the healing and then a separate slower/dd he value would drop a lot

[limpid siren]

Yea in IS it’s less obvious that she’s not really good at any of her jobs

[spark sinew]

harsh

not everyone is ptilo

[limpid siren]

True, some of them are silence instead

If i get vendela, ill raise her too

At least when i talk shit on 5*s it’s because i use them

[spark sinew]

not like the end result is any different...

[limpid siren]

[scarlet fulcrum]

My 5* draft still the usual suspect, tho its for qol more than anything

[spark sinew]

drafting 5* medics is a bit weird in is4 i feel

and reedic is super good so idt i ever drafted hibi in is4

[quick pecan]

just wait for hibis module

[scarlet fulcrum]

I draft nightmare sometimes, tho for whatever reason and smh worked

[quick pecan]

she will cook

[spark sinew]

please don't let her cook

[quick pecan]

oh right

she’s bad at that

😭

[scarlet fulcrum]

Hibis mod like 22% arts fragile or smt

[spark sinew]

lol lmao

i'm not gonna use 6 mod blocks for that wtf

[quick pecan]

wow an lol and lmao in the same message

very bold

[spark sinew]

typical

[full finch]

what about reed

[spark sinew]

nice 22% on mod3 hibi

[full finch]

what does her mod do

[spark sinew]

that don't stack

[quick pecan]

at least they had the decency to make reed mod 50 atk and that’s it

[spark sinew]

reedic mod gives her a shitton of self heal afaik

[limpid siren]

[scarlet fulcrum]

reed still on undesired talent mod

[spark sinew]

but like...yeah it's reedic

[quick pecan]

realistically reed was already over healing

[spark sinew]

on skill only

mod certainly helps a lot offskill i think

[quick pecan]

why do you care about off skill heals

[spark sinew]

worth 4/8/12 blocks though? ehh

i mean if reedic dies offskill

[limpid siren]

Because that’s how they die

[spark sinew]

you can't use her anymore

[limpid siren]

[quick pecan]

we are now in the limbo that was suzuran post first module and pre second

[quick pecan]

skill issue

[limpid siren]

No it isn’t

It’s an archetypal issue

Actually no you’re right

It is a skill issue if they die off-skill

[quick pecan]

if you were in a situation where she was dying off skill already i don’t think this is helping enough tbh

not for the mat cost ig

5* i can accept a gain like this bc i know what i’m doing by using the mats and i’m doing it very purposefully

[limpid siren]

I can see it saving purifier in the altar stage in is4

[spark sinew]

5* also have lower gains generally

unless you're using hibi as a debuffer (oh no) going from 12 to 20% arts fragile won't help all that much i feel

[limpid siren]

doesn't take that much for me to be happy to go to mod3 tbh