strategy

[void terrace]

Saria reedic and Texas with 2 simg foldartals

God run

And a chalice

[steep coral]

Yep

[modern plover]

Lvl up ptilopsis to replace then

[void terrace]

Hmmm are there any non boss enemies with weight greater than 4

Trying to think up a general push/pull attack disruption team

There's the mudrock bois

[modern plover]

Gundam or golem

[glass monolith]

Funny car looking thingy is weight 5 in anni

Not taxi, other one

[void terrace]

Gundam is 5 too?

Wait how does galdia even pull it?

Her pull strength is 2

I thought

[foggy grove]

there is shift panel

[void terrace]

Bruhhhhhh

Trying to think of general starts for shifters. Only viable one I can think of is Ange doro weedy

Spam push back onto mines. in theory works on all weight 4 and below enemies

[spark sinew]

starts where

in IS just don't do "combos" like that, they're genuinely terrible

because they rely on two units of the same class

and it's just worse than playing dorothy correctly/just using pusher and a dps unit

in regular content it will have the same problems of dp and whatnot 🤔

[void terrace]

I mean it's just regular content fun

I just tried it and its

Surprisingly effective

Weedy's cannon constantly clears smaller mobs to make space for doro mines

And weedy's big burst can push back all elites with ange's help buying even more time for mines and what not

Might get weedy module

[steep coral]

Shining e1 lvl 64 S1

[void terrace]

Damn why did I never try weedy doro ange before

Really let's doro carry hard

Weedy's cool downs are insane

[scarlet mortar]

doro kinda already carries in IS4 ngl

mfw going into the mech fight and i didn't have to bother spawncamping mechs

they can walk straight into the minefield for all that matters

[steep coral]

@modern plover your strategy

[glass monolith]

Is this draft for medic only on annihilation?

[vernal lion]

wtf with the mediation is that

tbh the big issue of this anni is if you skip to kill the taxi before it loaded passengers and you don't have enough ranged dmg for boss

out of that, this anni is just basic tower-defense game

[steep coral]

Then what should i do ?

Eyjafjalla S2 still lvl 2 specialize

[vernal lion]

does it even need

and who is your borrow

or you just want to get full auto by yourself

[steep coral]

Blaze

[vernal lion]

then who is your boss killer

[glass monolith]

Personal bias - Hoshi top blocker, more efficient against funny car

[steep coral]

I need complete only

[steep coral]

Typhon with S2

[glass monolith]

Me too had Typhon die thrice setting up boss kill

[steep coral]

S3 still didnt yet specialize it

Issue material low

[vernal lion]

so your issue is just big mobs

Ling can solve 99% of your issue, the 1% is boss

[steep coral]

Limit operator 0

[vernal lion]

your medics eat that, not Ling

let me try it now

[steep coral]

The problem is medic for typhon

[spark sinew]

where did you even put typhon

[steep coral]

Ptilopsi single hit looks almost die

I think should let blaze handle the taxi

[spark sinew]

hmmm

[steep coral]

With chainmad should be more worst than i think

I need blaze full specialize lvl 3 skill

E2 lvl 90

[spark sinew]

more than anything she needs module

that said idt blaze borrow is the way to go

[steep coral]

Where chat room with hire operators??

[void terrace]

Hmm I just threw Typhon onto top right most ranged tile and medic behind her

After clearing the surfers her skill just destroys minimalist

[steep coral]

What about i put mlynar

On lappy posistion?

[void terrace]

Where's Lapland?

[vernal lion]

@steep coral

I tried with Perfumer modless, it worked

I took the reference from this guide to make this idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNR0bJxPAO8&ab_channel=YuriLoliSiscon

my Typhon is also modless and s2lv7, but it still worked

you only need Ling mod3 and s3m3

[steep coral]

Im done with it

[vernal lion]

[steep coral]

🤮

[glass monolith]

Easy mode finished. Now prepare for DoS

[vernal lion]

yea, prepare to blow your mind

🤯

[void terrace]

Wait this is very stupid but can lee direct all of typhoons s3 arrows

Onto the same target

His s2 gives taunt but if I'm correct everything overrides taunt

[scarlet mortar]

no, random targeting doesn't... use any targeting

[void terrace]

What the fk is that boss

[scarlet mortar]

in the first place she isn't targeting the heaviest enemy despite that being her trait

[void terrace]

That is a

Good point

[void terrace]

Well a boss can't kill what's not there. Time for helidropkick squad

Bust out the whole gang:
Texalter
Yalter
Surtr
NTR kight

[glass monolith]

Get Chained, fail to remove Chain, get banished into MtG realm

[void terrace]

Damn

Where is that from tho?

The new CC?

Fire in the sands?

[civic bear]

Dos

[void terrace]

Whats dos

poo 2?

[glass monolith]

It is event which replaced CC, first one was POO

[void terrace]

Oh shit

It's poo 2

[glass monolith]

Think of it as TfN but you fight same boss

And enemy have POO tier of scaling

[void terrace]

Wtfff

Is it just stat check fest

[glass monolith]

Boss skill is chain operator and you don't unchain in time get coffin'd, and coffin is like chapter 11 Maw, you don't get your operator back till you kill coffin

Oh and on death he auto coffins nearby operators, then unlock orbital fireball which we can see on that gif

Event where Mlynar is almost must because he allow to bait whole chain and fireball BS

[void terrace]

Wtf

[scarlet mortar]

event where ceobe is almost must bc enjoy getting statchecked

[void terrace]

Glad I raised her

[glass monolith]

Ceobe Suzu Saria Reed alter

[scarlet mortar]

it's funny

[void terrace]

Can Typhon not deal with him from a distance?

[void terrace]

All check

[scarlet mortar]

saria's actual niche at high end is SP batterying and arts bursting

[void terrace]

Pot 6 m9 saria finally pulling her weight

[scarlet mortar]

(ignore how she got optimized out)

[void terrace]

Rip

[glass monolith]

Imagine Yostar forget to fix Saga "feature"

[scarlet mortar]

DS-S-3 is the last stage for DoS

has 12 enemies

[glass monolith]

1 HP SEAL

[scarlet mortar]

still one of the hardest statchecks to date

[glass monolith]

And 1 of enemies is chapter 12 blinking BS

[scarlet mortar]

lemme pull up diablo's stats

[void terrace]

Wait it's diablo

Like ifrits diabolo

[vernal lion]

yea, it's as in the skill description, the skill will mark the enemy with heaviest weight and highest taunt, then each arrow will pick target randomly

[void terrace]

Fuc

Lee s2 still crying

[vernal lion]

so any skill with taunt effect on enemy won't effect to this

[glass monolith]

Damn you taunted Dad of the Year twice

NOT TO MENTION HE IS TAUNT ON HIS OWN

[void terrace]

Hmm still have trouble finding value on lee

Perhaps his second module where he eviscerates enemy atk speed will do him some good

Comboed with shamare to be the ultimate fk u to enemy attacks

[scarlet mortar]

the immolator's def will be tripled

[void terrace]

WTF is this stat check

3000 atk????

[scarlet mortar]

hp atk def res

[vernal lion]

nah just Ifrit Ceobe it

[glass monolith]

You didn't read to 10000 damage fireball every 25 seconds part

[void terrace]

Damn

Silence alter time?

[glass monolith]

72% DR is still 2800 damage, and that's when you below 30% max HP

Ah yes i love Sanctuary part of boss abilities. Fucking CB arts shield every 25 seconds

[void terrace]

Nah just s3 it and pray for nuke

[glass monolith]

Which proc burn on your ass every 5 seconds

[void terrace]

Silence alter skalter s1 combo time

[scarlet mortar]

triple def really is asking for ceobe though

saving grace

[glass monolith]

Issue is, Ceobe will 2 tap shield and you stop getting triple def "buff"

[scarlet mortar]

thank fuck for her infinite scaling

[scarlet mortar]

yh now you can mlynar it

6k def is mega troll

oh right did i mention how every single one of the 12 enemies have boss-class hp

like that's cool

[vernal lion]

CC meta

[scarlet mortar]

hateful avengers deadass having CC stats besides their def

might as well double those hp stats actually since

uh, bladehelm dudes halve atk

glad S-3 isn't mandatory

i ain't putting myself through that

[vernal lion]

at least the stage doesn't have mamy enemies, so it's just like you have to deal each of them quickly before the boss rushing

[glass monolith]

Isn't half of enemies locked behind boss phase 2 start?

[scarlet mortar]

trol

[vernal lion]

ok CV is coming in 5 more days

time to stock alot for grindstone

[glass monolith]

What is CV?

[scarlet mortar]

Come Catastrophes or Wakes of Vultures

(jess2's event)

i'm never getting over that name

[vernal lion]

it means money or other property acquired dishonestly

[scarlet mortar]

no it means Come Catastrophes or Wakes of Vultures

[vernal lion]

yea, it's just taken from chinese words

[scarlet mortar]

no the english name is a riff off of "come hell or high water"

props to whoever was localizing that, it sounds chuuni as fuck

[vernal lion]

yea, the good being more good, the bad being more bad

[glass monolith]

Jess the credit card declined one

[tiny tree]

What should I do for this one

[glass monolith]

Suffer early doge rush

One of few normal stages which managed to stop my "Just chalter it" crusade

[foggy grove]

what's the problem even lol

you can open with sa or bagpepe

[glass monolith]

Problem is 3 banner guys making 2 starting dogs kill e1 max Siege

And there is barely any time between first 6-8 dogs. Afterwards stage is free (just don't forget to kill banner guy in middle)

[lapis hornet]

borrow thorns

phantom also an idea

[foggy grove]

ya if you want to borrow ines or mountain also fine

[tiny tree]

Changed bagpipe skill to S3 then suddenly I can beat it

[lapis hornet]

oh you posted roster didn't ever see

[scarlet mortar]

forbidden technique, ling S1

[spark sinew]

vile

was the opening that bad, can't you just bag myrtle

retreat bag and put like another vang

[vernal lion]

dog rush, that ain't gonna work

[scarlet mortar]

hey don't look at me

[foggy grove]

ling s1 is 8 dp melantha

[vernal lion]

yea, but it's not like they are good enough to copy that

[scarlet mortar]

i think the more important problem is that nobody sane raises ling S1

[foggy grove]

not like they need it either

their roster has all the answer

[lapis hornet]

you probs need p6 or smth

[scarlet mortar]

yh you need to catch the dog at the altar

[spark sinew]

sl7 probably clears

it's ch7

[scarlet mortar]

it's just funny when ling S1 works over S3

[foggy grove]

lol

[spark sinew]

shrimply borrow

[limpid siren]

real ones remember

[spark sinew]

mine is still like p2

from failed robot tags

[limpid siren]

[lapis hornet]

problem with noir is

you can't use him left side

smh

[spark sinew]

toxic

[limpid siren]

the real problem is that he dies if you're too slow

but this was even pre-thorns

[lapis hornet]

ya but pre thorns every mofo had an e2 texas smh

[limpid siren]

true i've heard she's the best 5*

[scarlet fulcrum]

I still remember opening with SA back then, gud times

[lapis hornet]

ya kyo did sa opener

iirc

[vernal lion]

hmm I will try again

[scarlet fulcrum]

Tho i still coping e1 lisk on normal mode

[lapis hornet]

tbf back then i opened with sa on every stage

good times

[scarlet fulcrum]

CM just unga bunga for faster po

[scarlet mortar]

is that p1 ling

[vernal lion]

p3

[lapis hornet]

p3 cringe

[vernal lion]

I'm not whale, that's all

[lapis hornet]

actually insane how many clears rely on the p5 sp

[scarlet mortar]

doro mine war flashbacks

[vernal lion]

yea, sp pot is all you need

[deft badger]

she healing like crazy

[lethal dragon]

She is crazy

[deft badger]

wanted to know how much i can stack those shields since i am to stupid to read...

[scarlet mortar]

based blem user

[rustic spire]

Can someone explain to new play when and how to use those guards?
They are the most confusing class to me without a clear role

[foggy grove]

they have a clear role
most of them is a ground dps

with some variation

lord with their range can allow you to position them flexibly like behind their tank or something

dreadnought is stat stick with little def,they can be good for assasinating caster etc

i'll be yapping if i go for every branch of guard since there is a lof of it

[rustic spire]

And arts damage kills armored units

[rustic spire]

So where do I place them

And where do I place arts mousse

[ivory nimbus]

You can helidrop Mousse on a tough enemy with how Res, and she'll shred through them, plus her S1 attack debuff allows her more survivability, or you can place her beside the operator that's holding the lane for DPH assist and attack down.

[rustic spire]

What's dph assist

If I put mousse behind shield unit she hits nothing, as enemies aren't on the holder tile

[ivory nimbus]

No, besides the ops that's holding the lane.

Like ahead of them, but to the side.

DPH is damage per hit.

[rustic spire]

And what about dreadnought

Like mato

[ivory nimbus]

Stat stick, you use them almost exclusively when you want to "Fuck you in particular" to an enemy and beat them with a stick, or to solo boss with a few Medics close by to heal the dmg incurred, since their HP and Atk is absurd.

You will see a lot of use for Melantha in the early game for assassinating AoE Casters.

[deft badger]

lol... and this really works.. 😄

btw IS4 is much easier on higher dif then IS3

[steep coral]

let talk about night champion annihilations

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0Ci1RWwDpM

[steep coral]

so i think i cant kill the boss terror

with regen their hp with sword

[deft badger]

hahahaha look at that perfumer lol

don't know who looks more crazy perfumer with that stick or gummy with the pan

at least i am getting now a bit more relics

@vernal lion hmm do u maybe know how the guard perk works in IS4?
is it like in IS2 or IS3...

[vernal lion]

it's still depended on relic tho

[deft badger]

i mean do i get to pick on my own which guard i want, or do they give me a random option like IS3

that thing but that guard card

[vernal lion]

E2 won't cost hope

[deft badger]

yes but what does the guard squad do?

[smoky halo]

vg guard squad?

[deft badger]

yes

[smoky halo]

it should work like is3 but the rng is better here for auto e2

afaik

[vernal lion]

this?

[deft badger]

don't really remember how it did even work in is3 i just remember is was trash 😄

[flint apex]

Hey guys could I get some help on clearing DV-7 and DV-8 with this or is it impossible? I have 2 sanity concentrates available to help lvl now if needed on whoever I need to focus on. I tried watching the vid by eckogen but it seems i might not ahve enuf dmg sow as wondering which unit i shud target

[smoky halo]

vg guard squad is pretty good in is2 tho

its guranteed e2 everytime

huh

[deft badger]

yes ty

[vernal lion]

yea, -2 cost when recruit, -1 cost when promote, and % chance to recruit an E2

[deft badger]

i ain't even seeing that much guard vouchers to get that thing

[foggy grove]

lol is 2 guard squad is good

[deft badger]

not really the RNG is trash

[void terrace]

Dragon turret congo line

[smoky halo]

blud is cooking

[void terrace]

Drones never stood a chance

[smoky halo]

🔥

[foggy grove]

the rng has nothing to do with the squad

it just means you can open with e2 at bare min

[deft badger]

of probably 10 times i did run that thing i got one time a e2 that was actually useful

so i better bet on people squad then guard

[void terrace]

When I take the rng promote starts I just screw the 2 floor cleared bonus and reroll till I get who I want promoted

[foggy grove]

there is no people squad on is2 tho?

[void terrace]

Fully promoted ling off the bat is always the way to go

[deft badger]

i was talking about IS3 rng

is2 guard is great

[void terrace]

Is is4 rng better?

Don't notice it being better

[foggy grove]

your mind is slipping 👴

[deft badger]

don't know... was asking since i use that special training atm

[deft badger]

yeah did write it wrong but i was thinking about IS3 xD

[vernal lion]

RNG is always a bitch

[smoky halo]

afaik class squad start with 6x guranteed 6star e2, and then theres a 35% chance that all ur 6stars start e2, 65% chance nothing else is e2

[glass monolith]

And then you get bullied to death by 5% for 100% more HP enemies curse

[vernal lion]

do you have enough resource to promote that SilverAsh to E2?

your roster and level are kinda not enough

[flint apex]

no i dont think im far enough the game yet to get the resources

i saw i needed like 4 guards /defenders right?, would leveling amiya, warfarin, liskarm n courier to 60 be enough? n then using support to get the alst one

[vernal lion]

yea, but you are lacking medic

[flint apex]

ohh i need 2?? gg haha

[void terrace]

Borrow ling time

Or mylnar

Mylnar solves most of the stage

[vernal lion]

bro he doesn't have any E2 op

[void terrace]

OH SHIT

Gg

Speed run e2 time

Someone draw up a guide again

[vernal lion]

and his roster is just like 1 or 2 weeks

[flint apex]

i only have one d32 steel right now is it even possible to get 4 guard chips, 3 steel n 6 white horse kohl so quickly?

if yes i'l take the gamble

[vernal lion]

you can promote Courier

he is a good enough defensive vanguard

[flint apex]

okay i think i'll try this

so the plan is to build courier to e2 lvl 1 and borrow mylnar/ling time to clear right?

[vernal lion]

pretty much yes

you have 2 days left before DV shop is gone 4ever

[steep coral]

you think it will be 400 kill?

ez

[glass monolith]

Bloodknight gave me brain damage during NL-EX/S stages. Good old times when my arts damage was Indigo and Amiya (And i was too dumb to switch to S3 caster Amiya )

[high warren]

Guard chip maybe from IS monthly squads?

[void terrace]

Wait wtf at beyond nature 6 where all ops cost 1 more to recruit, you can actually get screwed and not get a 6 star in the opener

[spark sinew]

business as usual?

it's the same in is3

[void terrace]

That is wild

But the hope reduction exists

And it balances out

[spark sinew]

ehhh

just use support squad if you like 6* that much

[void terrace]

All my high asc runs were with that squad

[spark sinew]

kettle/speech also work

or class squads

[void terrace]

True true

[spark sinew]

you can open 3 3* if you wanted as well

pick 6* after first battle

thankfully they cost 0 hope in is4 🛌

[void terrace]

Damn where's my support squad in IS 4 T-T

[spark sinew]

try spearhead

especially before you maxed your tree

[glass monolith]

I hate how spearhead is trolled in IS3

[spark sinew]

almost free buff

and nothing will distract you from drafting your best

(like some random ass promoted 5*)

[void terrace]

Hmm always hesitant to use spearhead

The 15% just doesn't seem worth random leaks due to smooth brain

Or emergency ops

[limpid siren]

don't really think it's worth if you draft real units

managing early hope econ with one of the other squads is much more consistent i think

[cosmic thicket]

wait

did you get that debuff

the one with "nobody knows"

[spark sinew]

do those guys only hit when camoed

aka can you ines them so they never stun?

or that won't work

[glass monolith]

Just read their abilities or ask CN lounge

[spark sinew]

i don't trust HG description

trusting MTL cn description? god forbid

ig i can borrow ines

cn lounge is fair, i keep forgetting it exists

basically limbus channel with a sprinkle of bg3

[spark sinew]

they stun anyway

finally ines doesn't fully counter something

[cerulean forge]

Hauck could I add you? I wanna try greyyalter

[spark sinew]

p1 and no s1m3, but if that's good enough, sure

[cerulean forge]

cool I sent a request (dmx)

[spark sinew]

done

[limpid siren]

s1 is the stinky skill anyway

[neon dragon]

I man I hate when I fail an annihilation by like 1

Anyone know a strategy for special little aqua pit

[remote perch]

I just dump everything on middle

[lapis hornet]

damn op

[vernal lion]

they have a stun hit that has a cooldown of 8s for each time it's shot out

[spark sinew]

yeah they just lose camo when firing

annoying enemy

[clear fractal]

so....did anyone else know that the current SSS stage bosses only do 2 dp drain when they enter the blue box?

[deft badger]

why do they always force that thing...

[flint falcon]

just pick her up on a good day
dont even have to actually use her

[glass monolith]

Don't wake my PTSD of doing NL-S-4 Wildmare mission, only to forget to deploy her

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1165364600439574639.png?quality=lossless&size=64

[turbid badge]

its general but upgraded

upgraded in a sense of

content

[turbid badge]

wouldve swapped typhon and eyja positions

but worked

[deft badger]

lets overkill it, like how his nearly looks like mine.. 😄

[crystal cargo]

I had typhon there to snipe the left side

Idk if it was better

[deft badger]

they don't even get to come closer if u face her right with eyja xD

[modern acorn]

Which operators should I level up? I'm stuck on S2-12 and just want to know what to level up other than twinks (and a child) 😭

[deft badger]

better question would have been which should i have not...

u have the ops to pass s2-12

i don't even wanna go to deep in to ops right now

bring 2 marksman if u must borrow blue poison (sniper)

[modern acorn]

I level up the ones I like and it is not going well

[sullen rover]

yeah its really something u do later when youre more experienced

[deft badger]

i can just tell u its not going to go well if u like ops like windlift xD

[sullen rover]

for now you just want to build good ops

u can start building ops u like after ur first e2 or sth

[modern acorn]

Who should I focus on?

[deft badger]

i mean they are all ok... just ignore giving xp to windlift pls..

[modern acorn]

I'm getting him to e2 out of spite

[smoky halo]

...

[sullen rover]

fang courier steward lava/pinecone/rockrock(depending on the map) kroos may(when u get her)/just use ranger for now humus cutter lappland beagle spot silence from the selector

[modern acorn]

I forgot about the selector things

They're just sitting in my inventory

[sullen rover]

its just lappland for the big one
silence for the 4 ops one

[modern acorn]

Got lappland and silence now

[peak cloak]

[tidal sedge]

Having trouble with WR-EX-4 Cm

[civic bear]

when you see the big rhino about to reach the middle and u managed to kill all the mobs ( except the exploding thingy)
just retreat everyone. let the red thingy kill themselves

you can redeploy your team again after that

that rhino guy standstill for more than 70s so you have time

then you can redeploy ur blockers at proper color tile

according to the rhino color

forgot what they are

[brazen linden]

Please don't randomly self promote your videos here.

[tidal sedge]

I dont like this stage

question, what can swire alter do in Knight run?

I got her in random

[foggy grove]

? the smarties is going to suicide

[civic bear]

if u killed one of the smarties that happens

need to not kill any of them then they kill themselves

u dont need to kill the rhino yet

kill rhino after you redeploy

[tropic valve]

if you have the DP for it, she can stall him a long time in phase 1

just make sure to retreat her if you can't take the 80 DP penalty

however, it won't be airtight by herself, you'll need to throw other bodies or cc

phase 2 you still gotta kill him since he's unblockable, so be prepared for that

[ripe terrace]

Do abjurers provide shelter to summons?

[foggy grove]

yes

[ripe terrace]

thanks!

[tidal sedge]

The Navia stall on knight is absolutely weird but it works

Should I m6 Navia's S2 and S3?

What exactly does Navia's s3 do?

[spark sinew]

reading her skill would be a good start for you

if you can't find it, i can give you a hint: the name of an operator is different

[sullen rover]

it is? i thought shes still swire

[spark sinew]

and yet person above has genshin brainrot

[deft badger]

is4 is to easy...

[sullen rover]

too*

[deft badger]

too...

[full finch]

don't you say that about everything

[deft badger]

nope

ofc not

[full finch]

and then complain about lack of content...

*joke

[deft badger]

is3 is hard af for me

is4 feel like a walk in the park without that stupid dice...

[sullen rover]

i miss the dice giving mlynar -50% atk -50% def -50% hp

they should bring it back in is5

[deft badger]

6 hours from d0 to d6 all first try that's why i call it easy, btw i am a bot lol so if i made it then i don't know what to say about it anymore

[dark glade]

Because is4 diff ramp in the last 3

Lower diff is free

[deft badger]

is3 took me a while and i gave up on 10 lol

[dark glade]

[sullen rover]

yeah my win streak died around d14

actually was it d13?

idr

[deft badger]

and assault squad is actually fun to play...

didn't have much but it was fun lol

that thing is actually my biggest problem, i will have to lvl low stars if i even wanna do more then 10, feels fine for now rolling with six stars

[sullen rover]

its just 3 stars bro

[spark sinew]

oh did you delete your screenshots

[deft badger]

yes because i don't wanna spam screenshots 😄

[deft badger]

but here for u that, assault squad try... ❤️

[spark sinew]

yeah that's a draft alright

[foggy grove]

is that thorns opener lol

[deft badger]

yes hahaha

[foggy grove]

i like all these collapse stuff better than random metatstatic

[deft badger]

did have mountain, thorns, surtr, skadi, mlynar e2 so yeah..

[foggy grove]

[spark sinew]

you need to learn that other rarities exist

but eh

[limpid siren]

for the average player, they might as well not

as soon as you get past the first roadbump in roster strength you can pretty comfortably raise exclusively 6*s

[deft badger]

if there would be any kind of rewards for going higher difficulty in IS maybe, but atm the only thing that's going to be hurt is my ego when i hit the wall with my rooster

[limpid siren]

you will be fine

[deft badger]

so i don't really care lets just see how far i get

[limpid siren]

pushing higher is more about patience than it is about skill

[tropic valve]

level your 4* and 5*, it's good for you

especially your 5*

[gray stone]

Nah it's fine to run exclusively 6 stars

[glass monolith]

Not to early game material leveling up fund

[gray stone]

I think it's even the most effective way to play the game tbh
But it's boring as hell

[glass monolith]

Collecting materials for 6* e0 1 to e2 from 0 take like 2-3 weeks

[gray stone]

Requires at most some E1L50 chumps

[noble pewter]

How to get ending 2 is4?

[glass monolith]

Something about f- around and find out what those 2 runes in lost and found unlocked after doing ending 1 do

[gray stone]

Go into Lost and Found
Pick the option that gives you weird Foldartals
Use the weird Foldartals
Go into that to get the relic
At the Prophecy node at the end pick the node that requires the relic

[limpid siren]

i think this is both fair, but also not really the norm i was talking about

and at the same time

[glass monolith]

At least i was told so when starting i have 100 of each t3 now so can't elaborate on it, i just print e2 every dead week

[limpid siren]

new accounts typically don't have enough 6*s to raise them back to back to back

[wicked viper]

i dont find much value in 4* in IS4 tho

now that 3* no longer cost 1 hope

so most of the run its 3* and 6* mix

[gray stone]

Fair

[smoky halo]

the only 4star i bring is cuora

[limpid siren]

yea no, i agree with you about the early game stuff

the game rebates the costs of at least 2 3*s right?

[gray stone]

A limited banner should give some 6 stars

[limpid siren]

mixed rarity squads simply make sense for new accs

but like

beyond that point

i think it's totally fair to just focus exclusively on 6*s

because that's where all the power is

[gray stone]

I think me starting 2 weeks before Virtuosa gave me a lot of benefits

[limpid siren]

you also had all your knowledge to back it up

[gray stone]

Yeah that

[limpid siren]

there's a huge gap between a noob and a veteran with a new acc

[gray stone]

A newbie starting in like Jessica event wouldn't get a lot of 6 stars

It's in the middle between the 2 limited banners

[glass monolith]

People starting now are starting "close enough" to Virtuosa

[wicked viper]

a newbie starting on jessica event gonna struggle a bit

because the boss is a big stat check

[limpid siren]

noobs have always struggled with their first event

[wicked viper]

well

[gray stone]

I think CV is more brutal because the boss is a range check

[glass monolith]

Took me 3 months to do full clear of event, with friend support, but i started in January so got hit with wave of dead weeks

[wicked viper]

the boss in CV can steamroll through everything while taking no dmg

[limpid siren]

power creep cuts both ways

[wicked viper]

so it can be annoying for mid game player too ig

its pretty much range boss in general

[limpid siren]

people complain about power creeping units like it's the only thing that's getting stronger

[glass monolith]

Remove def, stun, blink half map 1.5 tiles, repeat

[gray stone]

Yeah

[limpid siren]

but for the exact same reason

people forget that older events - while they weren't harder - we had shittier tools

[gray stone]

Cliff is definitely made with the intention of Typhob in mind

[glass monolith]

High rarity reduce amount of mald needed to win

[gray stone]

Since her S3 + range is perfect against him

Lower rarities use Firewatch or some shit idk

[limpid siren]

firewatch stays winning

[wicked viper]

cv-8 is technically lingable

[gray stone]

Cliff is weird because he zones most DPS people have

[limpid siren]

i wonder if i should do fixed squad for cv

[wicked viper]

but not sure if e2 is doable for them

[limpid siren]

probably too annoying

[wicked viper]

such diversity

[limpid siren]

ling abusers

[wicked viper]

ceobe melt the boss pretty fast

[gray stone]

My grip with Cliff is that he's anti-stall one shot monstrocity

[wicked viper]

because 3.5k def lol

[gray stone]

But on the contrary, an on-skill Cuora can stop him for 30 seconds

[glass monolith]

Finally worthy opponent for my Quartz

[gray stone]

Can't reduce DEF if you already have 0 DEF

[limpid siren]

huge brain

imagine a world where the soft archetype trait for crushers was innate shelter

[glass monolith]

And more HP means even more HP with me abusing damage reductions

[gray stone]

Crusher archetype has always felt pointless to me

[limpid siren]

it's a sandbag archetype

[glass monolith]

Not shelter. Reduced damage taken stackable with Shelter

[gray stone]

A gimmicky Centurion archetype that do the same thing basically

[limpid siren]

but yea it's just like

[glass monolith]

They have high ATK stat at cost of no DEF

[limpid siren]

not unique design space

crushers are simply another way to pad the roster count

[noble pewter]

How many endings r there for is4 now?

[polar crane]

3

[gray stone]

3
4 in expansion

[glass monolith]

more that 1

[noble pewter]

How do u get ending 3?

[polar crane]

go to scout and get a relic

then go to the talking node in later floor

[gray stone]

But yeah Crusher is weird because it is basically a rehashed of an existing archetype

[glass monolith]

If endign 3 done via scout instead 2+ visit to lost and found i already love it

[gray stone]

I think they will have to cook more unique melee DPS

[glass monolith]

You just defined entire guard gimmick

[limpid siren]

i mean

there's an old asf magic: the gathering design article that discusses why bad cards exist

which i think is very applicable to the arknights roster

[gray stone]

Tldr?

[limpid siren]

one of the biggest points made was just "they weren't made for you"

but there's an intersection between this, and the fact that every time ak introduces a new operator, they have to introduce between 2 - 4 new operators

[gray stone]

[limpid siren]

so if you always innovate for every new operator

you will obliterate your good design space in like

5 patches

[turbid badge]

yea

[limpid siren]

hyperbole, but the point is that sometimes new designs have to be tame/boring/unexciting

[gray stone]

Yeah I think they ran out of Defender archetype ideas a while

Guards are kinda the "One size fits all" class for all melee damage operatora

[limpid siren]

i still think defender is the only archetype that should have natural 3 block 😤

[gray stone]

I think they should make a new Arts Defender soon

Last one was like Shalem?

Oh Czerny

[limpid siren]

this stems from the fact that ground is stuck with just one archetype as the "generic ground dps" bucket
ranged get split into sniper and caster

so guard has a lot of ground to cover

[gray stone]

Yeah

Snipers have an archetype on hold right now (Loopshooter)

[limpid siren]

loopshooter is interesting yea

[gray stone]

Caper end up not being the messiah that I have thought

Maybe 5 star numbers would be better

Or they will go straight for 6 star

[turbid badge]

omg! tldr

sorry i was lazy

[modern plover]

Absolute madman

[tidal sedge]

Penance being so arts-centric in her skills makes me think she was possibly intended to be arts defender before they decided juggernaut was more suited for whatever was going on

[limpid siren]

yea, this is the article

there's a lot to be said about like

bad is defined by good, because good is defined by bad

but the part that a lot of people like to gloss over is just the simple fact that not every unit is designed for "you"

mystic casters are probably my favourite example of this

iris is an objectively bad unit, but she is fun for people like me

[glass monolith]

Indigo is only mystic caster i have built, and man it feels good when map layout play in her favour

[limpid siren]

real

i'm a big fan of their range tbh

[glass monolith]

Like "Wake the F up Eyja"-S-5. How many casters can just solo Big Fella with skill which will be back by time another arrive

[turbid badge]

my eben nukes

[scarlet mortar]

based

[turbid badge]

me bored

it died

typhon snipe

[limpid siren]

wtf humus abuser

reported

[glass monolith]

Kazemaru somehow died when under cover of Eben

[turbid badge]

hows typhon mod

[limpid siren]

they all got the same base mod right?

[turbid badge]

i kinda trolled by using eben skill to late

[limpid siren]

the besiegers

[glass monolith]

All besiegers mods are moar damage in one way or other

[limpid siren]

+atk_scale vs heavy enemies sounds good

just free scaling really

given their trait hatred

[turbid badge]

yea they all have sex

[limpid siren]

upgrades sound a bit closer to just "more is more"

but base mod is a new type of scaling for her

def ignore is also kinda vague in terms of defining value

and the difference between 50% and 60% is like

[turbid badge]

[limpid siren]

i think if you wanted to save mod blocks i'd just do mod1

given how expensive 6*s can be to module up

[turbid badge]

noir corne

[limpid siren]

he do be a real one

🫡

[sullen rover]

nice ebenball
i should really build

[turbid badge]

yea

base

slave too

typhon still e1

[sullen rover]

dont you need like a morbillion other ops

for the combo

[turbid badge]

Yea

snowsant s2 is so cool

[limpid siren]

Teta what do you think of almond

[turbid badge]

her s1 holds charges like glaadia s1

i think i spelled gladiia name wrong since forever

too

ohh

she prob sees usage in 1o

1p relay

lol in this video shes just used to pull enemy to texas

helidrop pull

charges are nice , don't know much of s2

i like how theres one akrec, but her only time on the field was to be shredded by cc1 apostole spawns

seems like almond s2 actually lasts for 4.5 secs?

aw man

ends if almond leaves

[limpid siren]

yea multiplie pulls is like

kinda cute?

her talent is such a troll though

[glass monolith]

We have Rosa s3 at home

[limpid siren]

yea that's just glaucus

it's also bad, but like usable

[regal lotus]

hello, does anyone here know in detail if typhons module 3 is highly significant

im kind of low on module materials so idk if to just keep her at 1

[limpid siren]

if you're trying to save mats, keep her at 1

[regal lotus]

thanks

yeah i am trying to save mats

[limpid siren]

the upgrades aren't as impactful as the base module

[regal lotus]

i get that 60% is good but i cant imagine it being that much better than just 50%

for 8 module blocks

[limpid siren]

that is sound analysis

[regal lotus]

thanks

[civic bear]

the increase mainly comes from the stat

mod1 is good enough

[spark sinew]

also if you're using her for mopping trash, basically only alpha strike? value matters

like, do I kill them in one arrow or not

Or "will this hit a breakpoint that i won't waste another attack"

[lapis hornet]

the upgrades give pretty decent dps boost vs higher def

which is her specialty

gotta weigh if you'll use her often enough and in challenging enough content for it to be worth tho

personally I stick to mod1, mod2 if it's a no brainer, and only upgrade when needed

or if I simp

[limpid siren]

Upgrades - in any context - matter more the more narrow your team building scope is

For normal human beings, you’re gonna have 11 other squad slots, and usually at least 7 other deploy slots to work with

[lapis hornet]

i view mods like lvl 90 tbh

[limpid siren]

Valid

[lapis hornet]

for most ppl/units it's more a feel good build than a difference maker

[void terrace]

Damn weedy Dorothy is putting in work

[deft badger]

is top operator 6 star or 5 star i don't remember?

[foggy grove]

"top"

6* ofc

[deft badger]

which of the calculators are up to date?

but i will probably go for defender and hope for saria xD

[foggy grove]

gamepress or aceship is fine

[glass monolith]

Those ones up to date

Then reverse engineer which 6* belong to which tags

[deft badger]

i got a new tag as well

summon tag, what does mayer do i didn't even know that op exists lol

[smoky halo]

shes psudeo global airstun for is3

havent seen mayer used outside of that

[deft badger]

anyway the force was on my side...

i finally own saria, now i don't have to bother hauck or naga to borrow

[vernal lion]

actually

[vital arrow]

Cursed game mode

[glass monolith]

LK? Garrizone? Nani?

[vital arrow]

Well its actually a good game mode

Just poorly executed

[deft badger]

what is that

[vital arrow]

Thats pallas event

You play a gauntlet of stages, and each op can only be used once

[glass monolith]

Pallas was 1 year before chapter 9 so not my train

[vital arrow]

The boss stage is also cursed

[vernal lion]

the final boss map is kinda funny tho

[glass monolith]

YO I NEED THAT SHIT TO MY ENEMY COMPLETIONIST LIST

[spark sinew]

they hit so hard

jesus i still remember

[deft badger]

i can't w8 till we get that x5 auto runs

[spark sinew]

it's not x5

[deft badger]

x4

what ever

[glass monolith]

x6

[spark sinew]

yeah not x4 either

[deft badger]

as far i care it can be 20 xD

brooo

[spark sinew]

smh minus robbing me from the pleasure

[glass monolith]

IT is x1 / x2 / x3 / x4 / x5 / x6. HAPPY?

[deft badger]

hahahaha

f u two

[severe raptor]

DUDE THE PALLAS EVENT

[deft badger]

now i am going to spam u 2 dudes with clues

[severe raptor]

Why do we have to spend sanity to farm points man

[vital arrow]

Its a 'farming stage'

[spark sinew]

idr what it dropped

[severe raptor]

you only get event currency

[spark sinew]

were rates bad or what

[vital arrow]

That event was so disappointing

[severe raptor]

no mateslls

[vital arrow]

There are no drops

[severe raptor]

[vital arrow]

Just event currency

The black bulls were so annoying

You hit them and your entire squad dies

[severe raptor]

no kal?

just die lol

the shield is pain

my auto fails miserably all the time

[scarlet mortar]

does he know

[molten temple]

Can anyone help me pls

Im stupid 😞

[spark sinew]

basically put those 2 blocks and block the bottom

so everything goes into 1 chokepoint on the right

[molten temple]

Oh

[deft badger]

does reed have her module on EN?

[spark sinew]

i think the bottom enemies have no ranged units so orchid on those tiles would do great job at chunking the heavy enemies

[vernal lion]

reed or reedic

reed does, reedic not yet

the reedic mod is from Harold event

[spark sinew]

i shudder to imagine why would you want reedic mod

it's a pretty weird one

[deft badger]

reedic, just for stats

yes yes rng is good in IS4 come pls lol

[vernal lion]

that's why you need to E2 all your op so you won't have skill issue like this

[deft badger]

at least what they could have done is let only ops show up u have already upgraded then i would benefit from that

but the hell are they giving me

abandon it is

[foggy grove]

that savage looks good

[spark sinew]

horrible idea

it's not my fault if i raise shit units

you definitely shouldn't penalize it

[deft badger]

if i could delete all ops i have that are not 6 stars i would do it xD

[spark sinew]

you can still recruit mly for 5hope anyway

and promo for 2

it wouldn't change anything

game rolls rarity upgrade first

[deft badger]

nope i did abandon 4 times

[scarlet mortar]

last wave has a couple

but yh still

[spark sinew]

where's your degen

idk why cope guard start rn tbh

[deft badger]

because easy

[void terrace]

Hmmm is it just me or are hunters not really used in high high end content?

Is gladiia wasting a squad slot just that impactful

[cosmic thicket]

Ray:

oh

if you're talking about breaking records ling S3 goes lol lmao

[void terrace]

I mean nian is just a universal brick, but gladiia skadi Spalter can provide 2 very decent bricks/laneholders.

I guess skadi just insnt that viable

[cosmic thicket]

sure but nian folds to elites much less than skadi/spalter/gladiia

(the ones that deal high phys at least)

[void terrace]

I mean skadi is basically a brick to stop bosses or assassinate elites with on s3

Specter still folds more easily than nian I guess

[cosmic thicket]

skadi's survivability on S3 comes from her regen, DR, and high HP stat

[void terrace]

I guess it makes healing more inefficent

[cosmic thicket]

but idk if it's better than just high def and HP

[void terrace]

While nians way higher defence means better value per heal

[spark sinew]

specast is probably better

[deft badger]

saw a lot of people using it will try it out sooner or later

[molten temple]

I still cant beat it even if i put boxes correctly can anyone help me to pick my operators

😞

[void terrace]

I love castermedic. Reed Typhon chalter eyalter

[spark sinew]

you want a defender or two

and then snipers/casters

[void terrace]

Yeah but they can survive at e1

Longer

[cosmic thicket]

castermedic

[void terrace]

Plus gummy opening pick

[spark sinew]

SA kinda works as well due to range, depending

[void terrace]

*sniper medic lol

Really?

Sa opening

That's a wild one

[long epoch]

Speaking of Skadi S3, even without being in AH team, fully built one is pretty much the pinnacle of plain beatstrick.

[void terrace]

I mean even qb seems stronger

But I guess SA has s2 heal?

[scarlet mortar]

damn you barely have any aoe

that's gonna be painful for a while

[spark sinew]

is this an old acc

[void terrace]

I mean she's a 10k hp brick. With gladiia she heals 350 a second with 35% dr

[spark sinew]

idr when they revamped newbie banner

[glass monolith]

Around Chongus / Quibai

[void terrace]

I'm also surprised why hoederer isn't more widely used. 70 seconds of 10k plus hp with Dr should be great against the new bosses like diabolo

[scarlet mortar]

i'd share my E0L1 clear but idt it helps considering it uses the right ops

[spark sinew]

so the guy probably had old banner

[scarlet mortar]

slow, aoe and all

[long epoch]

Yeah, I know, it's just that if people want to use Guard Skadi, enablers are not a must but Gladiia is popular event ops pick anyway so why not.

[spark sinew]

you 100% want a couple, probably not even need to level them but idk

[foggy grove]

trade it away

[glass monolith]

i heard hopium is on pick up thing so you safe

[void terrace]

You don't lose any

It's super value

[void terrace]

I mean gummy spot plus either nian or saria is usually enough for me

[deft badger]

lost nothing...

[foggy grove]

ya the only thing you can lost is deploy limit?

[void terrace]

I rely more on ling for walls

[foggy grove]

lp,hope is fine

[void terrace]

Risky but

[deft badger]

hauck do u mean me with defender?

[void terrace]

With the hp foldaetal

[deft badger]

for now i was fine with spot only lol

[void terrace]

She goes insane

[tiny tree]

Anyways do I need to borrow or do something

[void terrace]

Ling

Or typhon

Oh wait you have ling

Typhon lmao

You shouldn't need to borrow tho

Ling is enough

[tiny tree]

Do I need to do double dragon against patriot

[void terrace]

Don't use the dragons against patriot

Hold the lane and let chalter/sa with mines take him out

[scarlet mortar]

i am so sorry pat

[void terrace]

Just make sure you have bait for his big back spear so ling doesnt take it

[tiny tree]

Can cuora survive his attack

[scarlet mortar]

LMAO no

[void terrace]

Nothing can without like

[tiny tree]

What the cue for that one shot attack

[void terrace]

A full buff squad

Short of skadi gladiia with shamare

[scarlet mortar]

ok eun can but that's another topic

[void terrace]

That can tank h7 4 patriot phase 1

[tiny tree]

I need to know what sign patriot gonna use that attack

[void terrace]

When his invuln ends and every 15 or 20 seconds after or something

Just make sure ling isn't the furthest opp away from him

[tiny tree]

So do I just keep 1 dragon for sacrifice purposes

[void terrace]

Just give the stage a spin

It will only target ranged ops

[spark sinew]

???

[tiny tree]

So too far from patriot means death?

Even with most aggro

[scarlet mortar]

special targeting ignores taunt

[tiny tree]

So who do I sacrifice when that come

[void terrace]

For is4

[void terrace]

Any ranges unit lol

[tiny tree]

I'm gonna amiya

Is that attack or I forgot

Aoe

[scarlet mortar]

ch'alter actually survives that attack by herself

[void terrace]

Relly

I'm too used to h7 4 patriot

[spark sinew]

wasn't talking to you but alright

[void terrace]

Potate

[tiny tree]

I search up yt and it showed me solo vid

[void terrace]

It's that easy

[scarlet mortar]

yh sounds abt right

there're almost too many solo™️ clears out there with just [insert broken ranged op] and a spear bait

[tiny tree]

That one 1 star robot the sacrificial lamn

[spark sinew]

the stage is sad

[tiny tree]

Does max mod needed for those solo

[spark sinew]

even stew just soloes it

that's how sad it is

[scarlet mortar]

usually those ops are pretty stacked

but the difference is solved by adding

wait for it

a third op

[tiny tree]

So basically just make patriot get hit by alot of mines

[cosmic thicket]

steward solo?????

[scarlet mortar]

stew the elegant stew

as of rn there are 13 different op skills that can solo 7-18 NM

[tiny tree]

So basically you can't solo patriot without an operator become sacrificial lamb

[scarlet mortar]

rip patriot

[scarlet mortar]

nah you totally can

[long epoch]

Make it 7-18cm

[tiny tree]

Which op is it

[scarlet mortar]

3

[scarlet mortar]

are we including ops in CN

[tiny tree]

Yes

[scarlet fulcrum]

Make it mineless

[tiny tree]

Still the solo Seems need ling mod at LV 2

[long epoch]

Well, people already beat 7-18cm with 3* so

[scarlet fulcrum]

Gaming

[spark sinew]

ling without mod2 kinda defective anyway

giga strong module

so you should get it anyway

[tiny tree]

That mod LV allow for 3 fused dragon

Anyways currently speed running coz see ling skin incoming

[spark sinew]

oh yeah you should farm event

not the story

[tiny tree]

The event going to end in few hour and I'm stucked at the big ball boss

[spark sinew]

how

either way farming mats would be better, but I'm not your mom so

[tiny tree]

Op can't survive the aoe attack

[vital arrow]

get more op

[spark sinew]

did you read the boss mechanics

[scarlet mortar]

modless clears: ling S2, penance S3, ex foedere S3, hoederer S3,
modded clears: penance S2 Xmod, exfed S2 Xmod, stew S2 Xmod, mudrock S2 Xmod, degenbrecher S3 Xmod, zuo le S2 Xmod, zuo S3 Xmod, jessica the 🦅 liberated Xmod, ela S3 Dmod