strategy

[spark sinew]

specifics don't matter too much

but we open with vanguards because we want dp, for example

don't forget s1 vigil btw (although if he prints dp well and fast enough with s3, you can use it)

put wolf on one of those two tiles

[tidal sedge]

this... is shit

Also, I beat the Mla

I randomly throw everything

There's absolutely no way

How do I beat Mla without retreating

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-emotional-damage-gif-gif-25024521

[tall cairn]

You just have to kill her before retreating anything.

[tidal sedge]

How?

[tall cairn]

Setup dps and burst?

[spark sinew]

just kill her

i think your team could've done that actually

i just forgot about this thingy for lore

she's made of paper

do you have mly

[tidal sedge]

Yes

[spark sinew]

(also wow this gif hurts my eyes)

[tidal sedge]

I also learned that Skadi is unblockable

I tried to block her with Spalter

[spark sinew]

just mlynar it then, same deployment priorities as before

vang, mly to the right with a tile between them

tank on tear+healer

she's absolutely blockable

[tall cairn]

yeah.

[tidal sedge]

She literally just walk past through her

Don't tell me that her doll just made her escaped

[tall cairn]

Dolls can’t block.

[tidal sedge]

I didn't noticed she turned to her otherself

[tall cairn]

At least specter2 doll can’t, no idea about the other dollkeepers.

[spark sinew]

none can't

would be horrible if they could

[tall cairn]

yeah true since they’d just die anyway.

[flat sapphire]

so they all do?

[tidal sedge]

Can Typhon s3 work?

Because I think I can bring both her Mlynar

[smoky halo]

typh s3 too slow

use poze to nuke

poze can solo the boss before the transforms at lowerdiff

[tidal sedge]

Ok

[green gazelle]

Help for D-7 I have a leakage problem

[tropic valve]

the fastest single-cycle DPS against Ishar'mla are Pozy, Schwarz, NTRK, and Mlynar, in that order

then maybe Typhon but I haven't checked if anyone ranks between her and Mlynar

[spark sinew]

typhon s3 is horrible

[gray stone]

[spark sinew]

yes, just heidi them

[gray stone]

Did you let the robots eat the small things

[green gazelle]

Nah I don't It's just it leaks mab

[gray stone]

That's not a leak, the robots just obliterated you

[smoky halo]

cant u just lanehold center

so robot dont wake up

....

[glass monolith]

Low difficulty, Penance S3. Cope auto activation curse for true AFK. Deploy. Quit

[green gazelle]

Dp not fast enough

[smoky halo]

how?

[spark sinew]

how would penance charge

[gray stone]

Do you have another vanguard

[green gazelle]

So myrtle and chen both can handle everything down but I don't have enough for coura at mid so at the latest she is beside the robot

[green gazelle]

Grani and another flagbearer

[gray stone]

I think you can straight up put Chen down then Cuora then Myrtle

[scarlet mortar]

ehhhh ok this is adaptable with my cexas carry clear

[green gazelle]

Not enough dp and it will leak three enemies always go to bottom

[scarlet mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1019716913359769610/1216417563425378384/Screenshot_20240306-192325_Arknights.png

arts guard carry

[gray stone]

Chen can kill with Skill 1 no?

[green gazelle]

Skill 1? I use skill 2 though to clean up mobs at bottom when there are 6 of them

[gray stone]

[scarlet mortar]

this is easy enough tbh, gg S1 subs in well enough to kill left side mechs

[gray stone]

They don't have an AoE guard or a good opener tbh

[scarlet mortar]

your arts dps (preferably an arts guard) can kill all the big goo

[gray stone]

They have Chen E1 and Lapp E1

[green gazelle]

I have E1 penance

But not enough dp

[scarlet mortar]

spam ya2 or sth

E1 penance is kinda ass here

tbh you could just have lapp and firewhistle

what's your roster again

[green gazelle]

This but change exu with chen

[scarlet mortar]

no other E2's right

[gray stone]

Opening with Firewhistle doesn't sound too bad tbh

[smoky halo]

drop firewhistle

what

cant he just open with yato s1

[green gazelle]

Nah

[scarlet mortar]

firewhistle's aoe is pretty fine for that lane

[smoky halo]

to deal with the initial thingy at the bot lane

[scarlet mortar]

issue is the goo lane tbh

[smoky halo]

midlane?

[gray stone]

No it doesn't last long enough

[smoky halo]

uh

fair enough

[scarlet mortar]

worst case scenario you can pull a cringe and spam DP until you have typhon down

and S3 all the goo

[gray stone]

Start with Firewhistle bottom a Cuora in the middle and Myrtle to start printing?

[scarlet mortar]

then idk mlynar left side

[gray stone]

Yeah there is a Mlynar tile in the middle left

[scarlet mortar]

you can deadass mlynar everything actually

yh

that seems to be the easy way out lmao

[green gazelle]

Isn't Mylnar fine at the top he shreds those three sleeping robots?

[gray stone]

No you shred the wrong one

[scarlet mortar]

that's kinda useless bc you always kill goo before they get there

[gray stone]

The ones on the left are more danagerous

Sinve it's very close to enemy spawn

[green gazelle]

Where is mylnar supposed to go and face?

[green gazelle]

If I do this where is firewhistle facing right or up

[gray stone]

Right

[smoky halo]

or maybe 1 tile to the right

[green gazelle]

Ok let me try again

[green gazelle]

I have successfully beaten it on practice mode just needed to do it again

[scarlet mortar]

btw did you do the mission

[green gazelle]

This didn't work cause not enough dp

[green gazelle]

Yeah

[scarlet mortar]

aite then carry on

[smoky halo]

firewhistle opener

[green gazelle]

Finally done with D-7 now it's D-8 next

[peak cloak]

💪

[vernal lion]

prepare to blow your mind

🤯

[glass monolith]

"Why my roster explode?"

[steep coral]

Help me i always got lack of enemy i need 400 kill here my strat

[vernal lion]

first of all, what leak

[steep coral]

After 300

Already leak

Untill 400

Leak

[peak cloak]

place typhon to a better position i'm sure she will be died by casters and volleyball mobs

[steep coral]

No she not

[scarlet mortar]

there are any number of mobs from each lane which can leak

[vernal lion]

why tf ceobe facing down tho

taxi is just like 5-6 of them in this anni

[scarlet mortar]

you need to be more specific

...else it's hard to help you lmao

[steep coral]

Killing car

[vernal lion]

I don't care

your problem is leak, not the taxi

[steep coral]

From saria and hoshiguma

My problem is the drunk man and the puncher boxer

[foggy grove]

ifrit on ceobe position would have been better

[steep coral]

They really hard to kill without caster

[steep coral]

I did

[foggy grove]

well duh you focused all your caster elsewhere

[steep coral]

But i need kill the car

Because that car make me leak bruh

Eyjafjalla next time i try facing right

Help killing the drunk and punch

[peak cloak]

have u reached above 340?

[steep coral]

Really useless without caster kill them

[steep coral]

Ye

Last time i kill 392

8 leak

The big guy with surf board

If i have thorns will not be problem his art poison

[lofty sundial]

did you leak on hoshis position?

[steep coral]

Ye if blocking car

Full 3 enemy seat

Next saria cant tanky after big guy with surf the red one

Still e1 lvl 80 S2

[peak cloak]

what op u borrow?

[lofty sundial]

maybe even lappland is better than silverash here

because she also have art dmg

[vernal lion]

how about this, Ceobe facing up, Gummy deploying in Hoshi tile, and Hoshi in 1 tile to the right

[steep coral]

Non

[steep coral]

Saria?

[vernal lion]

what Saria

[peak cloak]

are u trying for auto deploy?

[steep coral]

Yes but manual

[vernal lion]

Ceobe can cover the tile in right of Saria

[steep coral]

Taxi road ?

[vernal lion]

sir there's no taxi in Saria lane

you did try yourself why you asking this

[steep coral]

Im waiting sanity

[spark sinew]

did you not force close the game on leak

[lofty sundial]

yeah should've done that if you leaks

[steep coral]

Why i have to do that

[spark sinew]

i mean if you want to waste your sanity and then wait for it to regen

you don't need to

[lofty sundial]

it'll just quit your progress no sanity wasted

[steep coral]

I have pass 8 enemy in 300+ enemy killing

[spark sinew]

(also should've waited until event ended for anni anyway)

[steep coral]

2 originite prime spent it

For sanity sacrified it

[peak cloak]

[vernal lion]

you are so bad

[steep coral]

I dont have time for waiting

[peak cloak]

what a chad

[lofty sundial]

you still have days tbh

[steep coral]

You know what i need complete mission annihilations

I didnt make it after all

[spark sinew]

today is tuesday...

[spark sinew]

but again

[steep coral]

Now i have question

[spark sinew]

weird how you needed to pop 2 OP

instead of 1

[steep coral]

Did you said if i failed on annihilations

Just quit close apps?

Will be 100% my sanity got refund?

[vernal lion]

totally

as long as you quit it before the run is completed

full sanity will be returned

[lofty sundial]

remember: force close
not the usual quit/retreat

[glass monolith]

Game sends result only after stage is over. You force quit so it don't send result. So you effectively score 0/400 kills. And annihilation possess this funny thing called sanity refund based on amount of kills, before 100 kills you get 100% refund and no reward

[steep coral]

Are you sure 100% work?

[vernal lion]

do you not trust us

[lofty sundial]

hundred of players or more said it works

[glass monolith]

Which let's be honest is not wrong decision

[steep coral]

Then you saving my originite prime

[glass monolith]

You can do thing called waiting for energy always, why spend prime to gain , you literally pay limited (stages and IRL cash is not infinite) to gain fixed (You won't gain over 1800 weekly limit anyway)

you have entire 145 hours till weekly limit on Annihilation reset

[steep coral]

How many banner i have to skip for 300 pull?

[scarlet mortar]

for f2p's half a year's worth

[spark sinew]

i mean this trick would save you a bit of OP

but you went from refreshing for sanity to saving 300 rolls'

[rugged moat]

are there any guides/spreadsheets on who to pull for for the upcoming banners?

[glass monolith]

Strategy i aware of is saving for mostly limited banners and sometimes side track on fun stuff like Mlynar, Typhon, Degen, Ray, JO banner with amazing 6* if you missing them

Oh and 5* in first 10 on each banner is meh deal because alot of 5* are niche operators and some of those niches really don't do anything for you in 95% of content

[steep coral]

I need saving for virtuosa after that need skadi alter

[merry narwhal]

There is no misinfo in help. Those rumors are all made-up

[glass monolith]

Except PvP: Enabled moments when #help and #strategy give opposite answers to completely random question

[spark sinew]

there's only one good channel

and it's not even in help category

[glass monolith]

#salt-mines , that chat don't lie, it just demolish you with flex

[deft badger]

salt mine?

hahaha ok u already named it

[spark sinew]

salt mine lies

[glass monolith]

High five

[spark sinew]

it called me a whale

[deft badger]

u are a whale

[spark sinew]

blatantly false

same deal with them not knowing how many OP you can get

[merry narwhal]

People read that channel?

[deft badger]

whale

[spark sinew]

where do you live

send me the address
I'll mail you a dictionary of modern slang

because the word doesn't mean what you think it means

[deft badger]

maroltingergasse 4 send it

[merry narwhal]

275, he beat me

[spark sinew]

you have the same amount

[spark sinew]

maybe more, depending if you got valarq

[merry narwhal]

274 = 275

[spark sinew]

yeah you didn't claim ch12 welfare

275=275

[restive valley]

Hell, the new annihilation, I did not expect that cube boss to come out

[merry narwhal]

I didn't even finish ch11 yet

[spark sinew]

i can tell

[merry narwhal]

Duck, new anni, okay g2g

I hate dossoles

[spark sinew]

is this your second acc

[glass monolith]

252, damn it had 180 last time I cared for that number

[spark sinew]

because you pull on every shit banner i know

[restive valley]

Er, annihilation is Ideal City not dossoles...

[merry narwhal]

That is the way

[spark sinew]

and there's 0 chance you have less ops

[glass monolith]

Dossoles in side stories still has annihilation

[restive valley]

Oh, you mean that one. I thought it was the newest weekly annihilation

[glass monolith]

Well I don't know what HE meant by hating dosolles

But that one annihilation still exist to haunt me

[restive valley]

Oh.

I think the one that still hunts me that What's the Fire cast weekly annihilation map.

[vivid rain]

Tbh that anni map was pretty easy with e1 max honey berry

[glass monolith]

Reed alter one? Spawn killed it so hard it died.... On 7th try because I forgot to hold top side properly

[vivid rain]

I just ifrited the whole top lane, works like a charm

[deft badger]

that is my main acc dude

[vivid rain]

Eb get the yalter treatment

[restive valley]

It is not the fire problem. The mobs... got invisible after killed.

[dark glade]

How are you still lvl 98

I thought you alr 120

[deft badger]

skill issue

[spark sinew]

in his case, literally

[vivid rain]

How is that a problem

[deft badger]

nah i took a 6 months break

[spark sinew]

anyway, being ignorant is one thing, actively calling someone a whale is another

[restive valley]

Well, idk, but my lane kept on breaking at the bottom.

[glass monolith]

Nah i'd spawncamp

[vivid rain]

Invis enemy cant even attack?

[merry narwhal]

The new anni looked like dossoles, I don't like ic either though 💀

[spark sinew]

although this entire chat knows you well enough to have made their conclusions already

[deft badger]

hahahahaha

and the conclusion is what

[glass monolith]

Which adds to issue, some people got stuck in loop when they kill enemy, it turn invisible and operators get busy targeting alive enemy so invisible one revives

[spark sinew]

i'm fairly sure everyone came to the same conclusion

[restive valley]

Nono, the invisibility comes when the mob got defeated and if those core thing doesn't get kill, it will repawn to its full health. Just like Spectre Alter.

[spark sinew]

i won't spoil it for you, we already spammed this chat

[merry narwhal]

Does the new anni have stitch?

[vivid rain]

Wtf are they doing that mentally ill 3 ops strat

[restive valley]

Just brace for a boss fight at the end. That one took me off guard lmao. Thank you Chen Alter for holding the stun away from the main team. Lmao.

[deft badger]

i don't care about the conclusion actually, i know we like each other secretly so its fine 🫡

[restive valley]

Geez, I thought I almost lost my lane when that cube boss came.

[vivid rain]

Cube boss more like IC S 4 3 ops low end 1 six stars

[deft badger]

is IS4 level progression faster then IS2-3?

[noble pewter]

I think is slower cause starting difficulty is negative modifier to score, so slower lv up everything

[vernal lion]

me, when I have 4 combat nodes on a row in f4

[dark glade]

Level is capped fast because its only 50 anyway

For now

[deft badger]

4 lvles for a run is a lot

[deft badger]

runs take 40-50min

[sly drift]

This guy is actually kidding me

[foggy grove]

maybe it just feels a lot because it's early

the exp required per level is not linear

i have to say tho brosky and free promotion squad makes hope a non issue

i have too many of it often

[steep coral]

Im poor now 12k orundum pull for warfarin

I really need warfarin as buffer

3 years not coming home

[foggy grove]

...why are you pulling kernel

[glass monolith]

Using to play annihilation now for
Pulling kernel for Warf instead buying her on shoperator (we had 2 cook own banners already) / using 5* vouchers
U sure you 3 year player?

Also most current meta ops so based they barely need Warf buff. Shamare/Suzu etc debuffs on other hand

[sly drift]

Blud just built different by those 3yrs

[vernal lion]

ok this one is for sure

fully afk squad

[void terrace]

Hmmm is silverash s2 worth raising

[peak cloak]

no XD, indeed a 2 block tank but i would just remake my strat if i even needed sa s2

[void terrace]

I heard he makes an ok tank

[glass monolith]

It is good skill but giving it mastery.... At that point i would go back to strategy drawing board

[void terrace]

Whelp scratch that

Was just thinking about how to make him useful again

[spark sinew]

good skill but like

[void terrace]

Haven't touched him in ages

[spark sinew]

answer one question first

are you playing maleknights

[void terrace]

Ah I see

[glass monolith]

S2 Silverash was my best tank for Texas Alter cleaners. Because Eunectes was choking boss to death.
Now i have better vanguards to allow more BS, and Hoshi, to forget about dying to physical damage

[void terrace]

I mean I literally have nian and the hunters

So I guess I'm really overthinking this one

Thorns and SA really need their modules soon

I'm just thinking of ways to tank treescar running man

I need a cheaper wall

[spark sinew]

in IS he's even worse

[void terrace]

It's either nian eyja or skadi gladia

[spark sinew]

cause you have better options for guard ticket

[void terrace]

Yeah

[spark sinew]

same with eyja actually

[void terrace]

There's better medics? I usually get reedic for ending 1 and 3 while eyja for ending 2

I mean eyjalter

[spark sinew]

reedic is always better yeah

[void terrace]

Having trouble with boss 3

[spark sinew]

kal is fine, depending on the diff and ending

[void terrace]

Tried reedic sandwich and Texas but it didn't work well

[spark sinew]

for ed3 pick NG

[void terrace]

For some reason kalt keeps on just leaking

I can't seem to get her to work

[vernal lion]

max SA s2m3 gives him a total def of ~900 and healing of ~150 hps

[void terrace]

That's really good

Wait wtf

[spark sinew]

1.5 times more healing than Shu's grass

without mod

that really puts her healing into perspective

[glass monolith]

Compare with Max SA S2L7 or something dude you will for real bait people into masterying him

[vernal lion]

yea

s2l7 is ~730 def and 100 hps

it only matters about def very much

[spark sinew]

if anything it should dissuade anyone from doing it

[foggy grove]

okay i'll do it

[glass monolith]

170 def is no baaaaad but i have Hoshi now so i have those numbers without module

[spark sinew]

900 def is laughable

[glass monolith]

It is still like being single man AH, without 30% cringe reduction

[spark sinew]

now take away their DR

see how many people would use them

[glass monolith]

Too bad i already touched grass of DR and now will DR Quartz at stuff when convinient

[spark sinew]

"build your own hoed" competition?

[glass monolith]

I don't care for Hoed, but damn i want Vendella

[foggy grove]

just pull

one multi won't hurt

your sparks fund

[glass monolith]

BUT I NEED 300 ON SHU, 120 ON R6 PART 2 and MAYBE ASH

[foggy grove]

:clueless:

surely you have 300 rn

[spark sinew]

people trying so hard to downplay ela, I'm not even sure if they're joking or not

surely they sre

[foggy grove]

she is not flashy
need typhon s3 selling

[civic bear]

not as hot

thats the problem clearly

[deft badger]

need 300 on limited, limited are free

[foggy grove]

if only doc is the 6*

[lapis hornet]

ok let's see if typhon is better thorns

[glass monolith]

Proceeds to enter hybernation mode from stun move of boss

[gray stone]

Where

I need to fight them

[spark sinew]

#help
go ask about ela

15 people will tell you she's underwhelming or some shit

[spark sinew]

didn't stop typhon shilling though

[gray stone]

The peeps who actually play CN is there

[spark sinew]

what about the peeps without 120 rolls and shitty luck

although without refreshing you won't get her module rn anyway

[brisk shuttle]

more like " go ask about ("insert any operator")"

[limpid siren]

chat is valarqvin good

[spark sinew]

a very reputable 5* player told me she isn't

so no

[limpid siren]

must have been arkhy

[tall cairn]

[limpid siren]

known supporter hater

[lapis hornet]

man she does no dmg to boss smh, plus bot leaked cause dodge mfs

ik ik stun

[limpid siren]

how tf are you missing that kill

bro has like 50k hp and 600 def

[lapis hornet]

don't ask me bro

[gray stone]

Cake is a newbie

[limpid siren]

i bet if typhon is in skadance's spot she kills

[lapis hornet]

if she doesn't get stunned yeah

but the dmg is a lot lower than I expected regardless lol

[limpid siren]

can't you just move your noob texas down bot

[lapis hornet]

maybe cause the shield

[limpid siren]

and she eats the stun for the rest of her miserable life

[lapis hornet]

yeah but

[spark sinew]

my man bought into the hype

[gray stone]

Chong Yue 1 block eww poopy

[lapis hornet]

i would need a blocker behind chungus or ditch him entirely

[limpid siren]

brawlers stay losing

[lapis hornet]

maybe ditch him he sucks fk magna

[limpid siren]

[gray stone]

Is the stun AoE

[limpid siren]

3x3 centred on most lonely unit

[gray stone]

Make Skalter eat shit

[limpid siren]

then she can't buff properly

[gray stone]

[limpid siren]

only cars come from bot, right?

so just noob texas there

[gray stone]

Is there enough damage to warrant a Eyjaberry

Can kick her ass

[limpid siren]

the stun is near permanent until drone dies

so she won't be doing much healing

[gray stone]

I mean, the team is running double heal

[limpid siren]

oh i see

[gray stone]

My clear just use Eyjaberry

[agile perch]

Bro has 4 deploy slots left

[limpid siren]

average 6* moment

[agile perch]

Just bring another fucking op

[limpid siren]

swear words

[gray stone]

Nuh uh

[limpid siren]

[lapis hornet]

why didn't i think of that

[limpid siren]

another op might be necessary for a noob like cake

[agile perch]

Ik im a genius

[lapis hornet]

maybe I ditch skalter hmmge

[agile perch]

OR JUST ADD SKMEONE ELSE

[deft badger]

i guess u have to ops.. its afk, just mlynar the boss

[lapis hornet]

maybe I need gg just after i trash talked her yesterday

[agile perch]

Ok

Do you

[deft badger]

its even a bit overkill xD

[agile perch]

Have

Mylnar

[gray stone]

Nuh uh

[limpid siren]

idk if anyone else has picked up on this

but cake doesn't need help

[gray stone]

^

[foggy grove]

lol yeah

[agile perch]

Yes he does in the head

[limpid siren]

so glad you dropped by

[gray stone]

Damn

Rude

[foggy grove]

what a beautiful rainbow and sunshine

[gray stone]

[agile perch]

What even the difference between this and #help

[limpid siren]

ben finegold spotted

[agile perch]

Other than it doesn’t have annoying slow

[limpid siren]

it's where nerds go to escape #help

[deft badger]

do u need a explanation go in to help for 5min u will understand the difference 😄

[agile perch]

Tru

[deft badger]

not really start is unmonitored blog channel xD

[limpid siren]

only when you show up

[deft badger]

we are spammers and trolls

hahahaha

f u igneous

[gray stone]

Nuh uh

Not if I do it first

[limpid siren]

[deft badger]

well u did have a 4 week break of me, now i am back... i did kinda miss u guys lol

[void terrace]

Damn did they nerf minimalist in the anni

Like 4 typhoon arrows nuked him

And lings dragons are once again the best arts guards in the game

[glad jay]

I think it’s just because typhon remove a major amount of the enemy defense

[void terrace]

Hmm true

Is fire chicken still viable?

I feel like I'm using her a lot less

I only have her s2 raised. Never got around to her s3

[spark sinew]

arguably she never was viable

[void terrace]

Too tile dependant, hp drain

[spark sinew]

even in the stages she's great to use (like bsl) she is just too damn clunky

[void terrace]

Only reason I used her was saria s3 memes

[spark sinew]

for not stellar pay off

was fine in annis ig

but that's s3

[lapis hornet]

maybe with mod and eyjalt being default healer shes more usable idk

at release ppl were like just skalter

but in practice it often forced skalter on awkward tiles

[void terrace]

She's my weird funny nuker.
I used to use her and gavail s3 to get max value out of saria SP mod

The SP value is insane

[lapis hornet]

wasn't the combo with quercus

[void terrace]

Saria is just more consistent on s2

Everyones cooldowns get lowered to some stupid level

Problem is her s2 sweet spot is very annoying

I have been trying to find value on lee s2 but it's just too clunky. Short of exu he isn't reaching max stacks on the talisman

[spark sinew]

idt you want to reach max stacks

that's just his upper limit

s2 has very low cd because you're supposed to just spam it

[void terrace]

Yeah but the dmg is only good at higher stacks

Just looking for ops to combo him with

I mean there's texalter

But she kills shit before his skill even comes up

[spark sinew]

tragic

[void terrace]

I know right

[lapis hornet]

man all the dodge mofos forcing me to use art

wanted to see typhons solo dmg

[ripe grail]

For annihilation 21
The cars in the bottom path
Should i use amiya or rockrock to kill the cars more quickly?
Both at e1 lvl 50

Kyo-strat💀

[lapis hornet]

rockrock

idk what's his strat tho

but rockrock should do more dmg

[ripe grail]

Put a defender and a caster there

To block and kill the cars

[ripe grail]

S2?

[lapis hornet]

ya

okay eyalt >ng I'm convinced now

also horn > chungus lul

feels like dusk did more dmg to boss than typhon tho

[limpid siren]

I heard that horn fell off

[lapis hornet]

man whenever I look at help nowadays it's all how xyz operator I thought was good is crap now cause of some new unit that we won't even have for another 6-7 months

[foggy grove]

but did you hear poze fell off

[glass monolith]

Kroos alter, Good, go get.
Warf, Kerneled, go cry about it.
Shamare, Kerneled, go cry about it.
Everything else is based

[foggy grove]

warf,kerneled,pull stainless fr

[limpid siren]

Sorry chief, events are just too hard for old ops now

[void terrace]

There should be a category for year 1 ops clears

May even be harder than some 4 star clears

Also is magallan saveable

I'm looking at her module an in theory she can get permenant invis

In theory

[spark sinew]

just use her as slow bot

[lapis hornet]

there's no way you said year 1 is harder than 4*

wait this isn't the old jay?

[void terrace]

Whose the old jay?

There's a new jay?

I mean I'm definitely an old player

But am I old? Who knows

[spark sinew]

seeing you wanting to use ceobe s2 on stainless' turrets

[void terrace]

Oh yes that be me

[spark sinew]

yeah this is an old player behavior alright

[void terrace]

HA

[lapis hornet]

oh okay you're not the jay I'm thinking of sounds like

much confusion

[void terrace]

Who be the new jay? A new player?

[lapis hornet]

dw about it

[glass monolith]

It is all jokes and games. Until you realize Ambriel is attacking Stainless turret over H11 phase 1 boss

[vivid rain]

h11 boss is steam knight right?

[vernal lion]

yes

[vivid rain]

isnt he like the easiest chapter 9+ boss

[vernal lion]

it's easiest if you know how to counter his rocket barrage

[vivid rain]

so bringing quartz

[glass monolith]

#strategy message GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND

[void terrace]

Hunters stomp him

Bricks stomp him

Ceobe stomps him. Unlike the slime bois or floating stone chucker he's just a pure stat check

[foggy grove]

lol year 1 ops clear 4* any days no sweat

[void terrace]

Eeh true I guess. I keep thinking of magallan clears

What I meant was like one 6 star but only year 1 ops

[vivid rain]

Year 1 meta ops are still mostly meta nowadays

[void terrace]

So like rather than low star clear the 6 stars are limited to one year 1 op

[vivid rain]

Relatively that is

[void terrace]

Eeh that's true. Eyja SA and hoshi are still competitive in their own rights

Ceobe has become her own monster

Blaze kinda got bricked hard but her module lets her chug along

Whish her s3 actually did shit tho it's such a cool concept

Mostima is mostima

Ange magallan and siege just crying in the corner

Siege really got merced hard

[glass monolith]

Yo yo yo yo hold up a second and go to annihilation hole next to all Taxi and Instructors

[void terrace]

Whot

[vernal lion]

Gladiia and Ange favorite habitant

[void terrace]

I mean yeah but

[glass monolith]

Honestly if i knew Taxi route i would bring S2M3 Rope to snipe them

[void terrace]

Ho'ol?

Oh I guess range issue

Ange global much

[vernal lion]

Hool only works when in range and enemy must has high hp enough

[void terrace]

Haven't used push pull starts in ages

Weedy keeping herself sparky clean in my dorm

[glass monolith]

Your loss

[void terrace]

Ah yes

[void terrace]

Been using goldenglow saileach skalter for global reach

Considering raising stainless s1 again just to make the perfect Tesla tower

Or god forbid windligt

[vernal lion]

allow me to introduce myself

[void terrace]

Fuccccccccc it's been so long

I need to raise shining

I have her skin

I have everything

Just never raised her

Should i

My resources

My poor poor depo got touched in all of it's no no zones by tphons big black arrows

My resources are in shambles after her mod 3

[vernal lion]

ok then how about this, another gg carry

[void terrace]

Wait

How does that

Is saria enough??

[void terrace]

S2 m3 needed for this?

[vernal lion]

that's not s2

[void terrace]

Dang it

[vernal lion]

and even that Saria has not been m3 all skills yet

[void terrace]

But are you using dolosses defence stickers or something

Do they even exist

I have no idea

[vernal lion]

yes

I use atk and def up for ranged, corrosion cure for both ranged and melee, and final one is 3 pumps

[void terrace]

Wait does stainless turret 20% work

Hmmmmmmm

[vernal lion]

this is my afk strat for DV anni

[glass monolith]

YOU WHAT?

[vernal lion]

yes, the final wave is not an issue to this formation

it's full afk

actually, if you don't have Ines in that time, you can just use Manticore s1

it's even better than Ines

[void terrace]

Whelp no turning back now

After 2 years I'm finally raising shining

[glass monolith]

Wait Ines is not third target for ranged robots?

[void terrace]

Rip my ebonholz mizuki and cheto

[void terrace]

Wait wtf this worked

The key is just to last deploy goldenglow and make sure saileach lands on her

Super fast cycle aak goldenglow achived

I mean it's 5 slots, but realistically only silence and aak are there for support

[vernal lion]

the cycle of GG is longer than Aak 10 sec

[void terrace]

You start gg first to let her attacks warm up

So the sequence is GG, saileach, silence alter, aak

I mean it melts patriot and the shield guards on h7 4

Aak is a decent sniper himself

[vernal lion]

GG s3 (with m1 at least) is 30/35, 20s duration and 35s cooldown
so with E2 Mostima, it will be 30/25
the same to Aak s3m3 which is also 30/25

[void terrace]

I used ptilo for both

[vernal lion]

sure, but it's still not synced

[void terrace]

True, just let gg warm up a little before aaking

Doesn't need to be perfect, just needs everyone up before gg

Gonna test this to see what I can cheese

The hunters provide enough bulk to stall and mulse helps with bind and extra arts

[vernal lion]

it needs to be perfect, because I timing it for full gg carry

[void terrace]

Your limited by golden glow anyway. It's 0.5 sp/s diff between most and ptilo, while ptilo provides some much needed healing and survivability for other members of the team

Of course most can do her own thing too

Will test with most and get back 2 u

[void terrace]

Much better timing with most but aak lags behind a little more

How TF does that one work?

Ptilo and nightingale just heal her?

Imma try with eyja and ptilo

[deft badger]

what will happen if i take this?

[foggy grove]

You never take brosky?

[deft badger]

nope...

[vernal lion]

enter the different dimension, and fight one of the bosses of IS1

[deft badger]

well no ty

[foggy grove]

It's just like is 3 wonderland

[vernal lion]

yea

[foggy grove]

Nah it's easier

[vernal lion]

it's not original map, so it's just easier

[foggy grove]

Only risk is get hit by deployment limit one

[scarlet mortar]

bosky's don't have boss fights for the most part huh

actually do they have boss fights at all

emergency bosky's, yh

[void terrace]

Wait howwww

Is this all maxed?

[vernal lion]

no

[void terrace]

I've been trying with shining but it ain't working

[vernal lion]

does she has mod?

the mod with +def

[deft badger]

no no no we are not doing this, i don't know the bosses there i will literally lose to some stupid s-

[vernal lion]

Bosky Passage is kinda pure RNG

unless you don't want to risk your hp, you won't take it

[foggy grove]

I'm taking it most of the time

It's big boon mostly

[scarlet mortar]

there aren't any bosses in bosky's

am i tripping or

[foggy grove]

Idk i haven't seen any

It's just regular stage

With funny gimmick

Sometimes it's all trade node or all encounter lol

[void terrace]

Nope

[vernal lion]

ofc you won't be able to do it

[void terrace]

Do you need mod 3 or something

I don't think I can afford mod 3 0_o

[foggy grove]

I have 2 sing,chalice, another aspd relic with gg

It's pure bliss

[deft badger]

btw where are the relics?

[vernal lion]

ok Imma do a few test

[void terrace]

Tq

[deft badger]

that's all i got...

[foggy grove]

Ye because you are avoiding brosky

[crisp bolt]

Imagine not doing bosky smh

[spark sinew]

is this is3 draft

reserves

[deft badger]

i avoid stuff that i don't know

[crisp bolt]

Based totter temp recruit

[deft badger]

unless someone makes a video so that i can see how that thing looks like i am still going to avoid it xD

[crisp bolt]

It's like wonderland but without boss stage

You get random stages

Getting double shop node in bosky

[foggy grove]

You get random buff/debuff

Auto activation is funi

But only the deployment limit is the deal breaker

[crisp bolt]

Having to clear stages with 3 deployment limit

[foggy grove]

Or 2 lol

[crisp bolt]

Those are fun

[deft badger]

i will probably try it all out when i am done with my skill tree

for now i am worried to do lol

[crisp bolt]

If it becomes a problem, just turn the node into a shop

Solve all your problems with this 1 simple trick

[deft badger]

but i am missing the last atk buff of 6% for now i got them all

[foggy grove]

Amazing

[deft badger]

i could try a other dif as well since this is now way to easy

[crisp bolt]

I've been trying to grind diff and tree at the same time

But my lack of time has only got me to d3

[foggy grove]

I'm doing both slowly yeah

[crisp bolt]

At least I did ed2 though

Now I can try and cope an ed3 run

[deft badger]

did nothing just ending 1, did hit lvl50 today, atm i just keep playing to finish the skill tree

[vernal lion]

top left is base def,
top right is with Skalter only,
bottom left is Skalter and Shining modless,
bottom right is Skalter and Shining modY3

[crisp bolt]

Aak gaming

[vernal lion]

so Aak has 500 x15, and you need to lower that 500 dmg as much as possible

(500 - 377) x15 = 1845 💀

(500 - 441) x15 = 885 👍

see? big difference

even it's just +60 def

[void terrace]

Damn so I need at least mod 2

[deft badger]

how do i deal with that stupid runner boss, i lost to him today am still scared to face him

[vernal lion]

he can be blocked, unless all your op died

[deft badger]

bro i don't know how to deal with him without eyja to heal my ops...
i killed him couple times but still didn't find a way to take him down all the time

[cosmic thicket]

just bring an abjurer

[void terrace]

Honestly aak deserves to be much more mainstream. His cool downs are super short for such a strong buff

[void terrace]

It works with saileach and silence alter instead of shining

So eeh

I'll take it

[cosmic thicket]

aak is really strong yeah

[vernal lion]

tbh tho, you just like survive from the boss attack while dealing with other mobs first because they are all annoying, especially in the map of the upgraded version

this is the upgraded version

[deft badger]

don't know they are kinder fine, he is the annoying one with his chain cast, if i don't have mlynar to take the hits its most of the time gg

that map is fine btw

[crisp bolt]

Aak is great with mlynar

[deft badger]

i just block him when he comes out the other one is a problem

[void terrace]

Aak is a strong sniper in his own right with some rng multipliers, but he has like 47% chance to proc his DMG multiplier.

[void terrace]

Mostima

Mostima is your best friend

[crisp bolt]

Totally take it from the lvl 90 mod3 m9 Aak guy

[void terrace]

Damn

[deft badger]

not really xD

[crisp bolt]

Give me your mostima

[deft badger]

take her since i will never lvlup her

lol

[crisp bolt]

I need someone to carry me in is3

[cosmic thicket]

you should level up your mostima

NOW

[deft badger]

no i have better stuff to do...

[cosmic thicket]

such as

[cosmic thicket]

so just reed alter shamare maybe sail weedy fia mizuki swire alter eben

you can slot in mostima

[radiant mesa]

you have like 1 better thing to raise than mostima

[deft badger]

i know why u guys like mostima but i am not spending nearly as much time like u in IS, i never saw a other ending (IS2-3) don't really plan to do in IS4 as well maybe because i like it, for now its just up in the air what i am going to do...

[cosmic thicket]

not even for IS

the slow is just that strong

[radiant mesa]

I raised her for CC she has good IS potential?

[vernal lion]

if you need slow just use Suzuran

[cosmic thicket]

wrong i will use angelina

fsr i only find myself using suzu in IS

[quick pecan]

boss when sluggish immune but not move spd immune:

[vernal lion]

now I hate that trio animal map again

fuck those 2 gundams

and then they spam a bunch of demolitionist

[deft badger]

i refuse to e2 her till they give her a mod that's going to lower her SP cost on skill 3
bro 110 sp for one skill

[cosmic thicket]

you really only need the skill once a stage

[vernal lion]

the map is even worse than IS3

[spark sinew]

why would you need to lower her sp

her helidrop charge time is fine

[deft badger]

i will use my next selector on suzu and forget that i have mostima

[spark sinew]

using selector on suzu is such a fucking waste

[deft badger]

i just don't like her and don't really see a need to ever e2 her, 28sec and 110 sp hell no

[spark sinew]

she already was potential shop operator like 3 times? in half a year

[quick pecan]

(he does not know end 2 boss is immune to slow when running)

[spark sinew]

i won't even talk about the fact that she's in recruit, cause it doesn't matter

[deft badger]

he knows that he will never see end 2 boss...

and its not for is

[spark sinew]

when you could've guaranteed her a ton of times

[deft badger]

in general i need someone that can hard cc

[quick pecan]

your complaints about the unit don’t match up with the units actual usage

[spark sinew]

suzu is not hard cc

so uhhh

[deft badger]

hard enough for me lol i have atm just gnosis with a good cc

[spark sinew]

if anything mosti is closer to hard cc

because she can affect invulnerable shit

like avenger in cc12

[quick pecan]

hauck has already said like 5 times the sp is a non issue bc u helidrop her anyway

[deft badger]

that doesn't even work most of the time(gnosis)

its all fine, never did have to use her and probably will not have

[spark sinew]

he has the usual problem of buffers

why would you bring him over another dps

i also like his module a lot but it basically enables another playstyle for him which exacerbates the issue even more

[deft badger]

reed was on the plan now i got her

[spark sinew]

and buffz helidrop buffing so slightly it barely counts

[deft badger]

my 🧠 does say ... suzu, saria, schwarz, bag, horn or kal

[spark sinew]

your brain has rotten from the cirno propaganda

i wouldn't consider any of the kernel ops

[deft badger]

but bro that are my options... i have like 70% of them

other are just trash that i wouldn't waste a selector on

[spark sinew]

who knows what you have

i would say your standards are super low if you consider irene but who knows

[ornate pond]

All of them debut in shop pretty soon (gg, horn etc) so I’d just skip the selector

[deft badger]

ain't skipping a selector lol... its a free 0 roll op

[spark sinew]

lol lmao

[ornate pond]

$30 isn’t free

But if u insist… horn or kal would prob be my go to

Since gg debuts in like 4 months, horn is still 7 months away

And kal would provide good value if you get her earlier

[deft badger]

will get that 12 anyway sooner or later, i am to lazy to pull on blue banner i am not getting any good drops on it

did 60 last time for suzu got ifrit and hoshi

30 for schwarz and i got something else again

[void terrace]

I mean at this point aak is basically an AA sniper with CC

Not the best damage but he can hit hard

[spark sinew]

and when did you last use aa sniper

[ornate pond]

Idk why SA is on that list. But Ceobe isn’t

[ornate pond]

Just. Use kernel selector…

[rose seal]

not the sexiest choice but bagpipe probably

assuming the Xs on the pic you sent are ops you already have

[rose seal]

reduce redeployment passive + can reveal hidden enemies in range so gets way more play than ceobe

also decent helidrop

[ornate pond]

your gonna be using ines for the ladder... redeployment passive isnt enough to justify wasting a slot on him, ceobe is basically a must have for any high defense risks in cc or just high def in general

coping invis reveal when ines exists is just... bad

[rose seal]

not saying ceobe is useless just saying why SA gets more play time

[quick pecan]

there’s a lot of invis reveal ops now

even sentinels got a budget ines reveal

[cosmic thicket]

(and then HG proceeds to have 0 invis enemies for the next 6 months)

[quick pecan]

doesnt second r6 have invis

[cosmic thicket]

idk

[quick pecan]

i saw some in the boss stage

[cosmic thicket]

I haven't seen any gameplay of r6 2 electric boogaloo

[quick pecan]

there’s also some invis in is4

[cosmic thicket]

ok but those are old mobs

[quick pecan]

it’s still content that has invisible enemies

but the issue is we likely won’t get sentinel module until 6 months from now

[cosmic thicket]

yeah i meant 6 months after sentinel mod

[quick pecan]

unless they decide to pull an executor alter and release sentinel module with jessica event in global

[ornate pond]

regardless, coping SA invis reveal in 2024 is bad

[quick pecan]

executor module was like one event early

[cosmic thicket]

yeah idt that will happen

[quick pecan]

don’t think they would bring jessica’s six months early but we’ll see if they want to sell her more ig

[deft badger]

higher dif is such a scam lol

9 fights, 8 support vouchers 1 healer

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10FqxqZQd1I&ab_channel=Sciel

ah yes, when the mob has higher hp than the boss

[cosmic thicket]

?????????

[deft badger]

who is this...

is that reed?

[vernal lion]

yes

[wintry sedge]

reed alter skin

[deft badger]

whats that?

[wintry hinge]

In 375 i fail to survive cuz the rocketman seizes the gelathos control

heres the annilathion squad
I rent Fiammetta

[spark sinew]

that's a lot of helidrops

surprised you can't just take gelatos back

3 vg js giga overkill btw

[latent anvil]

Maybe it is ntrk s1 angle

[wintry hinge]

its in the final part

[spark sinew]

in fact it seems like you don't use deploy limit fully

[somber stone]

Bagpipe in anni

[spark sinew]

they cope bag s2 afk

[wintry hinge]

i use her by the talent

[spark sinew]

myrtle/texas are worse here

[wintry hinge]

i dont have flametail

[latent anvil]

What other ops you have

Tho this squad prob can win

[spark sinew]

how's this related

it's just myrtle and texas do nothing

you don't need to waste two slots for both, one would do everything

[wintry hinge]

i retreat texas and i keep mrythle

idk if replace Mountain and specter alter by mudrock?

[somber stone]

What

[spark sinew]

what you want is to replace myrtle/texas

but yeah

we don't know what you have so it's hard to rec anything

[wintry hinge]

here are the operator deloyment

[somber stone]

Wtf horn blocking

[full finch]

horn good at blocking

[gray stone]

Move further up idk

Double SP charge ports are right there

[wintry hinge]

horn and thorns?

[deft badger]

there is a guide with chalter just watch it...

did use a guide for that thing

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just bring fodder to distract 375 bazooka, tho i dont see problem with those ops

[vernal lion]

just borrow Lin

[scarlet fulcrum]

Gaming

[wintry hinge]

ok

[low rover]

how to beat this enemy?

[keen glacier]

does nightmare s2 do damage when shu moves people back with her s3?

[foggy grove]

it has damage reduction when not blocked

ideally you block it with arts guard or hp sponge

it has like 1k def so low dmg phys is not effective

[low rover]

it's in dv-7, so what's the best play in opinion?

[foggy grove]

the best play is "idk what you have"
but plug it with arts guard/lord or thicc hoe like cardi
use arts

[turbid badge]

@quick pecan brocas solid af

fun in low op

[foggy grove]

his abs is solid i agree

i should grab module

[turbid badge]

yas

the slow is nic

[quick pecan]

he kinda cooks yeah

module at least makes him an ok blocker off skill

shame the benefits don’t go towards s2 when he isn’t blocking

and yeah the slow helped my broca not die while killing gundams 💀

[turbid badge]

aye same angle

get it

angle and angle

[latent anvil]

ooh teta pro alive

[gentle finch]

ooh teta pro alive

[peak cloak]

ooh teta pro alive

[sullen rover]

ooh teta pro dead again

[void terrace]

Damn gummy is a lot better than I thought

[turbid badge]

dissonance had gummy pfp

[turbid badge]

stun lock

gummy

[void terrace]

Damn her module is actually pretty decent

[sullen rover]

gummy bad shu is my new best friend

[steep coral]

Bro i need strategy for new annihilations

The aqua one

[sullen rover]

do u have mlyner

[steep coral]

Without afk strategy

[steep coral]

Nope

[sullen rover]

what about aak and silverash?

[modern plover]

you have horn?

[steep coral]

Aak nope

Silverash have

[sullen rover]

damn

[modern plover]

show roster?

[steep coral]

Last night gambler 12k orundum spent for warfarin finally this maniac lupo lappland coming now full potential

I feel insane by gambler 5 star not 6 star limit

Im really regret that day why choose kafka as my 5 star i should pick warfarin

[steep coral]

Look

[modern plover]

maybe something like this?

may need to pay attention to hella cause the lane he is guarding is caster and those volleyball machine

deploy lapp as the very last operator so the boss will deploy the 3x3 red square on her
also deploy eyja after hella so she takes the 3x3 stun (yellow) square

eyja skill is s2

you can replace lapp with silverash if her dmg isnt enough

[foggy grove]

just let that useless myrtle take the stun

[modern plover]

uhh sure
right you can just redeploy myrtle to the bottom lane

she cant block the car anyway

[tidal sedge]

Help me, what ops should I bring against Mizuki and not to lose my actual sanity

[steep coral]

Can i put typhon?

In behins excusiai

[modern plover]

you have typhon?

sure you can replace exu with her

[steep coral]

Skill 2?

Ah yes i forget tell you

[modern plover]

ya
if she is e2 with mod she can guard the top lane as well
dont even need hella

[steep coral]

Behind hoshiguma if block 1 car

Can i put tank again behind?

[steep coral]

E2 already S2 still special lvl 2

[modern plover]

hmmm you may still need hella then
the main point of putting hella there is to protect the range position that exu is sitting on
but yeah replacing exu with typhon is still better

[steep coral]

Wait i forget

[modern plover]

there is a leak at hoshi?

[steep coral]

Shining stll e1 lvl 57

[steep coral]

Yes

[tidal sedge]

This map was engineered to make Ange look good

[sullen rover]

damnn ange gud

[modern plover]

ok so bring ceobe then

[modern plover]

shinning healing is not enough?

[void terrace]

Urf

Finally