strategy

[lilac laurel]

You should be proud

[gray stone]

The problem is where to find them though

I have been fishing encounters to no avail

[glass monolith]

Which i don't know where to get while getting into random holes all over the place with broken search device

[gray stone]

I think it's a high diff thing

[glass monolith]

Btw what is "index 6" choice in funny Sarkaz woman?

[spark sinew]

might be yeah

I'm still playing very slowly

will cope with rosa

[spark sinew]

it's in lost and found

not in encounters

[glass monolith]

Criiiiiiiiiiiiiiinge

[spark sinew]

how so

[glass monolith]

I hate that node

Give me more emergency fights

[spark sinew]

it's a bit weak yeah

especially if you get rune swap

and not collectible swap

but oh well

[glass monolith]

Wait you telling me it can have collectible swap?

[spark sinew]

sure does

[glass monolith]

NOW I HATE THAT EVEN MORE

[spark sinew]

well not swap like in is3 lighthouse
but you give a collectible and it gives you some rewards

like i remember "heal 8 hp one"

and you can pawn useless collectibles now

like +hope ones

[round yew]

how do I kill this drone

[flat sapphire]

shoot it

Idk what to tell u man

[glass monolith]

Uh... Why Typhon on Ifrit tile

[round yew]

do I move everything 1 tile right?

[flat sapphire]

Typhon should be on like gnosis tile if anything

Or perf

[round yew]

perf has to reach blaze or whoever is defending left

[glass monolith]

Or opposite side if we want to avoid altaring her

Global regen talent

[flat sapphire]

I think u can just frd the casters too

[round yew]

regen good enough to survive those mages?

[glass monolith]

If i managed to hold left with e1 La Pluma and copium amount of e2 Roberta devices, i am sure you can do something with 2 tile range Blaze

[flat sapphire]

Pretty sure even shaw is enough for left

With occasional healing

[round yew]

thanks guys

I really don't want to retry anni too many times

[glass monolith]

Just don't be me on start of AK and remember you can close app

[flat sapphire]

Btw u get all ur sanity back if u force close the game in anni

It counts as 0 kills

[round yew]

yeah, the dalaos on this server mentioned that
it's just anni takes too long and it's always something after 350 that's causing the problem

[waxen swan]

Skill issues

[flat sapphire]

Pretty much

[glass monolith]

I still have PTSD of bleeding red ice weeb

2 preplaced Roberta devices, Gravel, and it slow down that b- by like 2 seconds

[waxen swan]

I remember when anni 3 was the only anni

[round yew]

wait, if I move them to the right, there would be no gnosis tile to freeze them

[glass monolith]

Only character i asked to move is ifrit 1 tile right so she attack drone AFK spots what you cooking

[flat sapphire]

I'm not sure what ur trying to do tbh

Are u leaking just the drones?

[round yew]

yeah
in this run I leaked another mob

[flat sapphire]

U prob don't even need ifrit here tbh

[crisp bolt]

me not reading CM conditions as I delete my mlynar with Aak

[round yew]

it worked
just had to stall one of the weebs

[severe venture]

The first time I went to a stage blind and ended up failing

[lapis hornet]

must be nice never losing

[limpid siren]

you could learn something from them

[lapis hornet]

if only I could

[hard urchin]

Am I screwed?

[sterile delta]

should be fine

[limpid siren]

loads of ranged units, but yea should be fine

[hard urchin]

Where to place typhon?

[sterile delta]

have someone tank the bonethrowers in the bottom lane, setup typhon s2 to cover everything, someone tanky top lane, ggwp

uh

personally i put typhon here

but i dont think it really matters

just make sure she doesnt take chip damage from the drones/tank the bone throwers and can cover the lanes and you're good

[hard urchin]

@sterile delta

[sterile delta]

nice

[hard urchin]

A new stage

[sterile delta]

oh that one

dogpile all your operators into defending that blue box

love that stage

[hard urchin]

Which box is ranged enemies?

[sterile delta]

gonna be honest i dont remember lol iirc they go like this but i forgot which way from there

typhon should just eat them alive i think

main concern are the 3 block running dudes

[limpid siren]

bot right

running casters

[hard urchin]

Good to hear

[sterile delta]

oh yea 3 block running dudes and the sword guys who decrease operator block go like this

so try to have multiple 3 blocks if possible

if you have chalter/typhon/realter setup tho nothing should get past them

[hard urchin]

That was easy

[sterile delta]

yea its pretty relaxing tbh

just one spot to guard

[spark sinew]

why not deploy chalter one tile to the right

idk the map too much

[sterile delta]

they probably wanted chalter to help dps enemies on this tile (is my guess)

idk if it was necessary but no harm done

[spark sinew]

oh right some stuff goes there

[sterile delta]

whats your pfp from btw lol

[spark sinew]

a certain pixiv art

[sterile delta]

hmm

im interested

[limpid siren]

probably porn

[sterile delta]

ok and

[spark sinew]

I'll be the bearer of bad news

it's not porn

[sterile delta]

even better

so whos the artist

[humble trout]

Can i get the stage info

I have lappland,kroos,click,cliffheart,ansel,spot,podenco

[sterile delta]

you might be cooked

[humble trout]

Oh should o skip it

[limpid siren]

from memory
red: possessed soldiers (running fellas that slowly die to self-damage)
blue: exploding spiders
green: wraiths and dogs

[humble trout]

I jave other option

[limpid siren]

what's the other choice

[humble trout]

Woah thanks

[limpid siren]

don't thank me yet, i might be wrong

[sterile delta]

sounds right to me

i was drawing that too lmao

[limpid siren]

[humble trout]

Wait lemme take Ss

Im kinda new to IS

[limpid siren]

no troubles mate

[hard urchin]

@sterile delta tysm

[sterile delta]

lets go

no problem :D

i die a billion times in is4 so others dont xd

[smoky halo]

is this d0?

[sterile delta]

im assuming so

[smoky halo]

i think they might be very low hp by the time they near blue box

[humble trout]

I dont know really

[smoky halo]

i think you'll be fine

maybe

podenco to slowdown the runners

[sterile delta]

safe option would be chosing the encounter instead but i agree with fibrinogen

[smoky halo]

you want fights in IS

since they give u more vouchers

and chance for extra relic

[sterile delta]

true

[humble trout]

But i have no hope

[smoky halo]

you will lv up next fight so...

[limpid siren]

holy moly

northwizard cup is an absolute scam

[full finch]

[smoky halo]

[timid schooner]

lmao

[smoky halo]

avg downtime recreation experience

[limpid siren]

real

[spark sinew]

finding it was harder than expected

it's been literally two years since that bet

[timid schooner]

💀

oh no

[sterile delta]

i found who it was attributed to on zerochan but its not on their pixiv ;-;

[timid schooner]

pffffffff

[full finch]

guess you'll just die

[limpid siren]

[timid schooner]

those jellyfish too strong

a

[humble trout]

Can anyone show me where to put ops, i dont wanna make silly mistakes

[full finch]

I'ma be honest with you

[full finch]

you learn better by doing it yourself

[humble trout]

Ig but i need a tutor

[timid schooner]

lappdum with spot on top left

put every ranged op on right side

[spark sinew]

surprised reverse search picked it up from pfp

[timid schooner]

u have lappdum so its easy to deal with those spidey

[humble trout]

Ok doktuh thx

[sterile delta]

same

[spark sinew]

care to dm?

[sterile delta]

sure

[limpid siren]

2 deploy limit, fun little prank

[full finch]

wtf deploy limit

imagine using that

[sullen rover]

is firewhistle a good start in is4?

[scarlet mortar]

block + dps, sounds nice

[polar crane]

melee firewhistle

[full finch]

firewhistle

[sullen rover]

cirno told me its good
but its cirno so like..

[gray stone]

ok buddy Cirno

[full finch]

cirnopilled

[spark sinew]

i mean maybe if you restrict yourself to 0/1 6*...

otherwise just pick better dps from other classes

[quick pecan]

cirno take surely hold up like how sniper not dead in is4

[spark sinew]

i mean, cirno's playstyle is closer to most players

than no 6*

might be harder, too, in some aspects

[gray stone]

Me when the meta snipers must have CC in their kit

[quick pecan]

so schwarz dead (we been knew)

[foggy grove]

cirno will somehow make it works :clueless:

[sullen rover]

cirno is gonna cook up some schizo shit 🔥

[quick pecan]

is it making it work or forcing yourself to play what you like

[gray stone]

I doubt he can cope anything
IS4 is incredibly hostile to Schwarz

[wicked viper]

his schwarz run gonna get carried by everyone else

[quick pecan]

like idt igneus is going to say yes 5* is meta for is bc he makes it work

[sullen rover]

hes at d13 or something..

[spark sinew]

i mean getting carried by 5* is just impressive

[foggy grove]

¿Por Qué No Los Dos?

[gray stone]

English or go to Brazil

[foggy grove]

[wicked viper]

i wonder how much easier IS4 gonna be when jessica alt release

[quick pecan]

et pourquoi pas les deux? 🤨

[wicked viper]

because i can see a lot of usecase for her

most defender ticket are so dead

[gray stone]

angle why are you french

[wicked viper]

unfornately

it's a chronic disease, being fr*nch 😔

[gray stone]

I think this is Mudrock Penance exclusive dead

[gray stone]

Not you too

[quick pecan]

je ne peux pas dire exactement

[wicked viper]

horn feel suboptimal

altho liskarm and hoshi feel nice tho

liskarm s2 tech

[foggy grove]

blitz tech

[quick pecan]

jessica and sentinels in general will probably feel better post module

but that’s so far away from global

[wicked viper]

not happening for us any time soon

ya

[quick pecan]

yeah kind of a shame

should’ve released sentinel module on jessica original event

what if they pull an exalter can i cope

[wicked viper]

well

IS4 lasted 8 months of content

[gray stone]

Maybe they will pull an Exalter

[wicked viper]

because EN got IS4 so delayed

IS4 might not be dead when jessica got her module

[gray stone]

I believe IS5 will be here soon

probably July but idc

[wicked viper]

i dont think so

RA2 is still updating content

[quick pecan]

they need like

one filler event

before anni

[gray stone]

Both can run concurrently

[quick pecan]

so we’ll see what it’ll be ig

[gray stone]

iirc Mizuki also drop somewhere after the summer banner

[wicked viper]

i have my bet on it being a vignette

[quick pecan]

or wasn’t there cope of anni integrated into episode 14 release

maybe they do something new

[wicked viper]

or chapter 14 too ye

they announced it like 2 months ago

[limpid siren]

she's fine so far

[wicked viper]

previously

ines was right before lone trail too

[limpid siren]

probably gonna fall off pretty hard

but i'm only on low difficulty rn so i'm mucking around

[sullen rover]

i see

[quick pecan]

i think most ppl are fine with general advice up to d7 no??

like beyond that is kindaaa

[glad turtle]

Anyone have a good team for IS4? Climbed up 23 lvls for rewards and still only beat it once on a fluke with gavialter

[sullen rover]

d7 is d10 in is4 iirc

[glad turtle]

Without gavialter I don’t reach floor 2

[sullen rover]

reed the flame shadow popukar and orchid has been servicable up to d12 for me

[foggy grove]

popukar real carry

[gray stone]

Truege

[glad turtle]

Does reed need mastery?

I’d have to borrow her

[spark sinew]

just borrow maxed one

[sullen rover]

s2m3 and s3m3

[glad turtle]

None of my friends have one and all the requests I sent out never got accepted

[gray stone]

No friends?

[spark sinew]

but also if you have your own, you def want to raise her

[sullen rover]

u can borrow my m6 reed
93503349

[gray stone]

Low difficulty should suffice with a sl7 Reed

Source: My CN IS4 grind

[glad turtle]

I have at lvl1 just got her from typhoon banner

[spark sinew]

i could probably park my reed permanently on sup

although trash investment lvl

only lvl80

[limpid siren]

poor

[glad turtle]

Sent request

[sullen rover]

ok let me open arknights

[gray stone]

poor

[spark sinew]

oh you can actually send those by id?

[glad turtle]

What starting squad? Been trying the ones that make promoting cost 0 or the ones that give an extra recruit ticket at the beginning

[sullen rover]

support squad

to get a 6 stars

scientific squad is pretty good but you have to do a 5 stars start if ure not lucky

[spark sinew]

talking to a mirror?
i'm just making good decisions

chump's change smh

[gray stone]

L90 everyone now

[sullen rover]

can sum1 describe the image?
all it shows is a sad poop

[foggy grove]

just press it blud

[sullen rover]

o

[spark sinew]

oh wow you can

[glad turtle]

Having that much rss must be nice

God this game mode brings so much joy

[spark sinew]

||how ||

[glad turtle]

They died and couldn’t redeploy

[spark sinew]

i'll be honest this is just you playing not optimally

[limpid siren]

did you lose on the first stage?

[wicked viper]

reed alt should solo up to floor 3 at e1 no?

[limpid siren]

map knowledge is a big part of playing IS

[spark sinew]

idt they die on any stage (i think even mimic can be killed if you get s2 up first)

[glad turtle]

I did

There was a chest that reflected damage and then there was snipers

[wicked viper]

anyway
retry if you fail, IS is intended to play this way, ya will accumulate experience and map knowledge the more ya play ya

[glad turtle]

I’ll be honest my map knowledge is utter crap

[sullen rover]

i mean it just came out in EN so its to be expected

[glad turtle]

IS3 I only beat 10 times total? I ended up just buying all the reward levels and is2 I was worse off

[limpid siren]

don't feel obligated to bash your head against the wall

the rewards aren't time-limited

[glad turtle]

They aren’t but doing IS for a month straight to not win a single run gets frustrating

[spark sinew]

surprisingly

this is very common unless you're the same person

[foggy grove]

everyone map knowledge starts from zero

[cosmic dagger]

mode's permanent, take your time

[foggy grove]

[spark sinew]

like i think you're the third one with that story

[lapis hornet]

I haven't had a single is win in like 3 months

[spark sinew]

i think treating it as an obstacle that you need to beat would hurt you in the long run
treating every stage like a puzzle will allow you to just plow through first couple floors with your starters
taking it slowly and iterating, however slowly, will allow you to "win" the mode

aka to get the basics down and to play with less than optimal rng

[limpid siren]

how many runs have you played in that timeframe?

[lapis hornet]

I don't remember

too many to count

(I don't know how to count)

[limpid siren]

i bet you haven't played at all

[glad turtle]

Glad to know I’m not alone bc in the other chats I ask for help in, I am that only person

[spark sinew]

that's not a good thing

do you want some pointers on f1 maps?

like how to open them etc

[glad turtle]

I’ll take any and all pointers

Because the relics seem like it could make for some fun runs

So knowing enough to actually be able to have fun would be ideal

[spark sinew]

the basics for f1 i think is
every map has a choke

[wicked viper]

beast waiting for slaughter might be tricky

[spark sinew]

so you would plug it with popukar and then deploy reed to overlook her
for specific ones i think it's easier if you show it first

[wicked viper]

but its all timing thing

[spark sinew]

for beasts you don't want to trigger the wave yeah

[wicked viper]

i assume the previously mention sniper map is ghost of resort

[spark sinew]

trigger it with orchid (deploy her to attack them) when there's a downtime from enemies

[wicked viper]

its mainly about where you deploy your units

[spark sinew]

if it's emergency, you want to charge reedic s2 first

[wicked viper]

hmm

i dont find beast waiting for slaughter is that bad ya

unlike

emergency ghost of resort

[spark sinew]

idr the names ngl

is this another f1 map

[wicked viper]

the sarkaz sword ye

with MN shield sniper

in emergency it has grudgebearer

scary af

[glad turtle]

I try to plug but the most difficult ones are the incognito enemies, the stage with the two blocks and all enemies rush them

And the Sarkaz sword stage because of the snipers showing up with shields

[wicked viper]

prisoner map should be easy unless there's a spike chest in reed range

i like that map because take like 30s to clear

[glad turtle]

Its more of I don’t kill them fast enough

2 VG and a range or 4 range is when I can kill everyone and not leak

[spark sinew]

you deploy bobcar to the left of the barricade

she literally solo dps the map on low ascension

don't even need to proc reed s2 i think

[glad turtle]

I’m not talking about reed

[spark sinew]

killed crying dog with 1 blocker

[glad turtle]

I meant in general with all the other people I’ve used

[spark sinew]

that's dumb

[glad turtle]

Not getting the rebound chest so far with reed try 2 so now I’m able to reach other floors

[gray stone]

Rebound chest?

[glad turtle]

The chest that reflects damage

[tidal sedge]

Doesn't Reed counter those

[wicked viper]

no

[gray stone]

Nah, she takes more than she heals

unless ofc on skill

[tidal sedge]

Oh. They buffed the reflect from IS3?

[spark sinew]

she heals more in practice doesn't she

because enemies will go into the range and she switches to them

and then ofc you also have skill

[tidal sedge]

In IS3 it was only 40% reflect so Incantation 50% healing of damage dealt means they effectively take nothing

[spark sinew]

~~who's the best spec for abusing first relic chalice ~~

[wicked viper]

ok its not even listed on prts

lol

[bleak vapor]

how am I supposed to beat 9-19? Mandagora keeps collapsing the last pillar before I can use it on her and I don't have enough DPS to kill her when she has resistance. It doesn't say she has any resistances so I tried to put her to sleep but it dodn't work?

She keeps killing my units with her damage aura too so I can't even 2-star it

[spark sinew]

she won't collapse it if you won't deploy anything in range

[bleak vapor]

here hold on I'll post a pic of my current setup

[vernal lion]

Thorns solo left, Blaze solo right,
Kal'tsit solo boss, if you do it correctly

[bleak vapor]

don't have thorns or kal

[scarlet mortar]

post your roster too while you're at it

[bleak vapor]

This is basically how I have the field set up when she starts walking, then I retreat the two vanguards afterwards and use ines and texalt to dps her (I usually wait to put mudrock down and gravel does nothing but hit pillars)

[spark sinew]

wild executor appears

[bleak vapor]

oh yeah he shoots the bottom left block becuase jessica can't hit it for some reason

[scarlet mortar]

ok ngl i wasn't expecting a nearly full 6* squad

[spark sinew]

not sure if dropping a pillar on the left that early is a good idea

[scarlet mortar]

uhhhh reed S2 + cexas just deletes mandra's hp no

think you can just do that to phase 1

and then drop all the pillars on her p2

[wicked viper]

wait can't you just borrow a nuker to nuke her?

[bleak vapor]

I don't drop it I just get it to 1 hp and usually by the time she gets there his redeploy timer is doner

[scarlet mortar]

the nuker in that squad is cexas S2

[bleak vapor]

s2?

[vernal lion]

skill 2

[bleak vapor]

yeah I know should I be using that over s3?

does it have more single target damage?

[scarlet mortar]

yh it deals a mega fuck ton of damage

S3 is the utility skill lmao

[bleak vapor]

I see, I usually use her to clear big crowds

I'll try it out

[scarlet mortar]

reed2 S2 + cexas S2 is an extremely menacing combo

not sure if E1 reed is enough to drop mandra's hp low enough, but the arts fragile should help cexas anw

[vernal lion]

actually I haven't fixed the Blaze placement, should put her lower 1 tile

[bleak vapor]

I guess now that I think about it blaze wouldn't have the same issue as my pen would because she can hit everything at once

so then I wouldn't need to put mud behind her

[scarlet mortar]

i'm pretty sure mud solo'd that lane for me

[quick pecan]

you should get blaze module if you’re going to use her

[bleak vapor]

my mud is only e1, don't have enough lmd to e2 her yet

[scarlet mortar]

there's only one gargoyle at the end that needed a pillar drop

[civic bear]

where did u kill mandra p1

[vernal lion]

that Blaze hadn't had mod yet and she still did fine for me

[bleak vapor]

needs 11-3 clear

[bleak vapor]

right up at the second row from the top

[civic bear]

after getting pillared once / twice?

[bleak vapor]

twice

I'll try tex s2 and see if I can ip it

[civic bear]

ok then you pillar at the middle right ye?

[bleak vapor]

1p*

[bleak vapor]

yep

[civic bear]

then u deal dmg until she recover her shield

[bleak vapor]

yep

[civic bear]

did she use her skill on the right or left pillar

penance pillar or reed's

[bleak vapor]

honestly this is the first time so far I've had to get help on a stage

[bleak vapor]

reeds, I tried to use pen as bait

[civic bear]

make sense thats closer

boss isnt in range to get pillared either right?

[bleak vapor]

no she does it just before reaching the last pillar

she taunts me

[civic bear]

here's a trick. hit that pillar thats targeted

[bleak vapor]

I got her to not do it once and my jessica shot at her directly instead of the pillar

[civic bear]

and turn it into the cracked form

[bleak vapor]

look, it is

[civic bear]

no

dont do it early

do it when that pillar is targeted

like kill it exactly when u see the red mark tile

[bleak vapor]

does it untarget?

[civic bear]

it cancels her skill

yes

[bleak vapor]

ohh

cool

[civic bear]

so dont turn it cracked yet

just let it 1 hp

then deploy some random ranged to turn it cracked

if boss is close maybe can even hit it to fall to her. if not you might want to retreat then use the device instead

[scarlet mortar]

ok ong i have no idea how i can't find a cexas S2 supp

time to cook

E2 S2M2 reed but S3 cexas

surely.....

[civic bear]

that looks like a kill yes

[bleak vapor]

honestly idk what I'm doing but they both get her to the same-ish amount of health, s2 or s3

[scarlet mortar]

trolled

[scarlet mortar]

the moment she moves block her with gravel, wait until you see her using the laser

then drop cexas and proc reed2

in that order

[civic bear]

laser prio highest atk and reduce target aspd so you dont want it to hit texas

[bleak vapor]

ahhh gotcha

[vernal lion]

I just realize that Manda laser is not final targeted, but it's through the duration she casting it,
so like if you see she's about to attack with laser to some op, and you drop the op with higher attack than the said op, Manda will target the higher attack one

[limpid siren]

that's a target finding issue isn't it?

like she commits to the attack later than the visuals might imply

[scarlet mortar]

she needs a target to use the laser but can retarget as she casts

pretty uncommon for that to happen

there's no warning for it too so you won't notice until it's too late, unlike SK

[vernal lion]

now I know why I hate the rebel enemy

mf making the civis unable to be blocked is a bitch

[spark sinew]

why would you, they don't leak

[vernal lion]

the leak is from imposter tho

[scarlet mortar]

sus amogus

should've identified them

[vernal lion]

damn the left one

[scarlet mortar]

yh there's just a set of levitation relics in IS4

[vernal lion]

but I don't plan to play with levivate

[glass monolith]

Ones which run away prevent cleaner spawn

[green sandal]

Best starting unit for is4?

[vernal lion]

damn this is easier with Yato, Ling and Perfumer

[brazen parrot]

so is reed alter a go-to for is4 or what, trying to look up recommended operators for is4 - couldn't find much on pins

[strange fable]

Yeah she is

the big 5 of is4 is mlynar/ines/texas/yato/reed

later on its the big 6 with Degen

[brazen parrot]

thank you

what are other ideal guards for is4, besides mlynar?

[limpid siren]

Who are the big 5 of general content

[vernal lion]

guard is pretty much useless in IS4 if they are not nuker or big dmg, since the enemy is pretty fast and even more annoying with curse

[brazen parrot]

[strange fable]

Id say surtr works

specifically for ending 3 the "simple" solution is something like reed s2 balls attached to texas s2 + surtr

[vernal lion]

ranged and aoe being supreme for overall content in IS

[brazen parrot]

thanks, this will be helpful

[strange fable]

if you need a bit more damage then add a suzu/saria, ive seen skalter s3 work there too

[vernal lion]

silly Typhon emote when

[limpid siren]

Ideally never

Throw a brick at that idiot

#arknights material

[vernal lion]

so true

[tidal sedge]

What have 5* enjoyers been using their supporter tickets on in IS4?

[brazen parrot]

why is she dum

[glass monolith]

~~Quercus because medic ticket is lie ~~

[tidal sedge]

I've done that for ending 2 ye

[spark sinew]

are you limited to 5* only or asking because you already know what to pick in 6*

[glass monolith]

My only build 5* supporters are M3 Shamare, Quercus and Sora

[tidal sedge]

The latter. I'm not 5* only

[wicked viper]

i love you hand of pulverizing

triple badged now

[vernal lion]

now do for all other squads too

[wicked viper]

ngl

out of them

the most annoying one is the 0 index on floor 1

cant see shit

wtf

spearhead is good now

[tidal sedge]

Floor 1 is easy anyways

You might miss an emergency but the extra indexes more than compensate imo

[wicked viper]

oh wait im scammed

the silver badge is only d10

need to wait till expansion for platinum badge

i wasted my time

[spark sinew]

it's retroactive

[wicked viper]

wait is it

so it means when expansion come

all my badge turn platinum?

oh shit

it is

[spark sinew]

well assuming you clear all on d12

[wicked viper]

so nice

ye they are

ngl

ed3 is quite comfy

aside from the occasional 1 shot

you can brute force through it

ed2 is really annoying

[vernal lion]

until it's the upgraded version

[wicked viper]

i mean alternate ed2 is annoying too

[vernal lion]

wait to see you beat ed4 boss with 1 million hp

[glass monolith]

Nah I'd Ceobe

[smoky halo]

does ed4 boss have an alter ver

i havent seen anyone talk abt it

[vernal lion]

yes, it's just both bosses bringing their whole armies into the battlefield

technically, it's like marching

[smoky halo]

intresting

[glass monolith]

Wait how it is different from normal version again?

[scarlet mortar]

can't find a youtube vid on it for some reason

i'd expect sciel to post sth but huh

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45rDJSt2rXw&ab_channel=ARKNIGHTSWHATIFPROJECT

I also have posted it
#strategy message

the big difference you can see is that there are also corrosion snipers in upgraded version

[grand ginkgo]

118 hp????

[smoky bear]

what is best start squad for is4? And what is meta operators?

[void axle]

Guys, my units keep dying at this point, any tip?

[polar crane]

its cheat

[tidal sedge]

I have been scared to go in what do you think i should do

There’s two question am asking my self 1.Should i upgrade Murdock more?

And upgrade Texas

[sweet steppe]

is lin good in IS4# ?

[tidal sedge]

And bringing gummy is a good idea?

[vernal lion]

she can clear floor 1 by herself, for later, it's just mid

[vernal lion]

actually, I don't think that team will make it

or you will lose to leak, or you will lose to being out of time

[tidal sedge]

I shouldn’t get my hopes up then🥲

At least I guess I will try my best

[vernal lion]

left side is dog and shield enemy
right side is caster and butcher

also the map is full of trash, unless you do funny thing with the leak relic

[limpid siren]

mayer and shamare mostly

i've tried quercus, sora, and heidi too
quercus is slow to wake up, and sora/heidi feel like they're for team comps i wasn't drafting into

quercus suffers because medics picks are already crowded

silence is my first pick now, but i'll keep trying purifier and maybe warfarin

[grand ginkgo]

crowded as in there are a lot of options?

[limpid siren]

yea

i expect purifier will get choked out before long

[grand ginkgo]

My "medics" are reed kalt
i also have purestream

surely sufficient

[limpid siren]

i'm sure you can make that work yea

[tropic valve]

turns out having 10 Snipers is pretty good

[limpid siren]

big clear

💪

[tropic valve]

[limpid siren]

looking forward to your next IS video

[tropic valve]

will try to deliver, but first I gotta know these maps better

still making silly mistakes

[limpid siren]

hmm

that's just being human

[tropic valve]

yeah

[limpid siren]

mistakes aren't inherently bad, how you fix them is what makes you great

people can learn from that

[tropic valve]

just today I found out Emergency Unwell spawns an Instigator

was completely caught off-guard

[lapis hornet]

sniperknight gamer doesn't even pick typhon shit unit confirmed gg

[tropic valve]

haven't built her yet

am poor

[grand ginkgo]

wait how is mayer used

[limpid siren]

same as ever

duct tape

i haven't hit d15 yet though

so don't quote me

[peak cloak]

you maxed is 4 levels already? cirno.

[high warren]

Should be pretty easy eh 🤔
Need tips cuz first time this ending attempt
(D3)

Have therm-ex can ditch for someone maybe 🤔

[dark glade]

First of all change poze to s3

[high warren]

Ah right

[dark glade]

No stall in sight so goodluck bursting

Thats it

Because its only 1 lane

[high warren]

Which ops I deploy

I can prob burst with ease

[dark glade]

'ease'

He doesnt know

Pepelaugh

On d3 should be still fine tho

[high warren]

🤔

Which ed is it

[dark glade]

TLK is ed2

I mean i can be more specific with the mechanic

But no

I want you to enjoy the first time experience

unless someone here want to explain it all

[bold lance]

Any op that hits the knight is frozen for 5 seconds 🙂

[dark glade]

That is one for example

Typewriter ignore it so abuse it

[bold lance]

Good luck "bursting"

[trail gulch]

I need help.
At the start of IS4, I had borrowed a Yato alter, and now I got a specialist recruitment tickets. Should I upgrade Yato, or choose another operator?

(currently I have fang, kroos and yato alter)

[high warren]

🗿

Does it have any cooldown or smth

[bold lance]

Nope.

[high warren]

Should I bring 2nd healer

🤔

Or cope with dragons

[bold lance]

He deals extra damage to frozen targets

I don't think you have a brick big enough to live it

Can't heal one shots

[high warren]

it should've like 26% atk reduction

Is it two phase boss

If one can prob cope

[bold lance]

It's 2k attack. With 75% increase on frozen target.

It's two-phase. The second phase revives with 20% HP and is unblockable 🙂

[high warren]

Can it get bind by Ines? 🤔
That 5 second might be life saver

[blissful wolf]

My friend is currently trying to do the Dorothy's Vision EX stages but is stuck on one of its CMs, can they still get the OP for first clear(s) after this rerun is over?

[bold lance]

Sure. He is susceptible to almost every form of CC

[foggy grove]

yeah

he is only missing like medal

[blissful wolf]

thanks

[deft badger]

strat has become IS station 😛

[peak cloak]

@deft badger

Scheiße

🏃

[high warren]

Turns out it was just d2
Was pretty easy knowing what to do

[peak cloak]

o kurwa

[deft badger]

fuck sry..

[deft badger]

cyka blyat

[peak cloak]

hm, i will pretend i didnt see anything

[deft badger]

hahaha i hope non did

[peak cloak]

how are you? haha

[deft badger]

wasn't sure how to write suka blyat so i did copy from google but for some reasons it went wrong lol

i am fine how are u 😄

[peak cloak]

i'm doing well, thx u. washed my road bike feel hours ago and she looks the best, preparing for another long trip with her

actually suka blyat is a correct romanized version.
though cyka blyat is more popular.

[deft badger]

the hell are u going with ur bike isn't it still cold 😄
trying to make sense of IS right now what that cold thing stacking

[weak gazelle]

its kind of weird when have these scattered idle mecha all over the map (entire event maps)
the strat itself it just basically which one faster, destroy or awaken them

[glass monolith]

Damaging sleeping mechas to abuse woke things unexisting? What it is? POO?

[scarlet mortar]

no it's called being skilled

[weak gazelle]

i run this event for the first time so yeah dont like it at all

[glass monolith]

Balls, balls everythere

[deft badger]

are there fliers on the map?

[glass monolith]

no, only several 3 block thingies from Lone Trail

[deft badger]

i don't remember if i have done that map already once

[weak gazelle]

that map is uhh boss love to run for no reason

[glass monolith]

Whoever designed boss was like "I just want him to be Fast AF Boiiiii"

[vernal lion]

boss is annoying, the boss is more like aoe healing check

or just, Typhon

[weak gazelle]

chain dmg, big range, and run often
yeah more or less like that

[deft badger]

i like it how they expect me to have on stage 2 or 3 like 5-6 ops xD

[vernal lion]

at least that map is still easy tho

[deft badger]

to do some maps

well i failed

[glass monolith]

Only 2 times i won this boss i just Typhon S3 it

[vernal lion]

this is the alter version of that

[weak gazelle]

this map even worse than previous one

wrong placement and enjoy your lost

[deft badger]

meh i don't care i will run it over and over till i unlock that thing where i don't need hope to upgrade my ops

[scarlet mortar]

me when

and it works

[deft badger]

since i use 99% six stars i think that would be the best thing to do xD

[vernal lion]

I mean, I don't have mudrock

[scarlet mortar]

i think you should simply acquire mudrock

[vernal lion]

I still believe in my rng gaming

[weak gazelle]

ahh yes the joy of using 6*

i keep forgetting that

[deft badger]

i have only 6 stars built..

would be happy to have ur rooster xD

of 5 stars

[vernal lion]

some maps with separated lanes are really annoying, if I don't have Ling tho

[deft badger]

some.. there are to many early on

[vernal lion]

the one with ghost mob

and gargoyle

[glad turtle]

Reed working like yall suggested but now for the boss am I supposed to focus her on the right or the left

[wicked viper]

left side

[glad turtle]

Right typically has 99% of ops dying so I’m not sure how to keep that lane from leaking

[wicked viper]

left side is mainly high def low res enemies

[weak gazelle]

hmm?
im not being sarcastic tho
nah dont, have a lot of 5* built is already questionable in the first place and the return arent great ( combat wise)

[wicked viper]

right side is mainly low def high res enemies

[vernal lion]

[glad turtle]

So phys on the right casters on left, got it thank you

[wicked viper]

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Twitter · Mar 7, 2024, 10:26 PM

[vernal lion]

yes, some ops are really busted

just, get luck

foldartal gaming

[scarlet mortar]

is that ending 1 d0

[deft badger]

having only 6 stars build is questionable as well lol

[scarlet mortar]

ling solos the boss d3 relicless so at least that's one thing out of the way

[vernal lion]

leak boss or not

[scarlet mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEEcIWg5iiI

[scarlet mortar]

krilled

[vernal lion]

ok, I get it

skill timing

[scarlet mortar]

you can ling the entire stage and redeploy to ling the boss apparently

[vernal lion]

wait so it has hp gate?

I didn't know about that

[scarlet mortar]

hp% gate

phase 2 technically begins at half hp

[wicked viper]

50% hp is just +1 target and dmg reduction ya

[vernal lion]

some squads really focus on the mechanism, play well with it and you can get big prize

[peak cloak]

not that much haha, in my hometown. i think it's 0°C rn.

prob above zero during noon so that i can freely go around

[deft badger]

10c at my place i am not even leaving my house atm lol

[peak cloak]

u know, sit at home from nov to march i gained so much weighg cuz siberian winter, now it's time

🚴

yea still, lets see how my body react with it first. then i will plan my trip better

[severe venture]

God, AH operators with HP regen relics just never die. One of the easiest run I've ever had

[glass monolith]

They don't even need relic for that

[deft badger]

complains about weight, i stacked up around 15kg+ during this winter and i am not planning on losing it went in with 80 something and i have 98 now lol

[vernal lion]

imagine losing to the time gate

[peak cloak]

🤓 a part of work need me to maintain my body shape

[deft badger]

btw how is yato vs that boss?

[vernal lion]

best shit ever

[scarlet mortar]

probs shreds at d0 no

[vernal lion]

remember that s3 is very good for big body boss

[peak cloak]

during this winter i gained like 8kg from 72 to 80 and feel so fat lol.

[severe venture]

Does anyone know what's that red effect in the field?

[deft badger]

[strange fable]

The red effect on the ice? I think its hp increase

[vernal lion]

from the curse named 5% chance to get +100% hp

[deft badger]

that drones... not even texas can stop them xD

[limpid siren]

texas sounds horrid for that map

[vernal lion]

sniper is needed for that map, thanks for the marksmen trait

I remember there are 3 other drones with chaotic movement path

[void terrace]

Does exalter even work good on is4?

Ling has a great time when you have the HP foldartals for the boss. The dragons get huge

[deft badger]

don't know its ok..

and what is that thing now...

map with 3 ufos...

[vernal lion]

ah yes, that map is kinda...

just Yato s3

[deft badger]

my yato is e1 atm xD

but typhon and kroos did it...

[vernal lion]

so you just have e2 tex

[deft badger]

yes with s2 didn't know there will be ufos

what does that thing do?

[void fossil]

its the exp u get when ur done in a run or lose is4

[rugged hound]

Use fast redeploy operators for their abilites: No. Use fast redeploys as sacrifices to satisfy Aak's bloodlust: Yes.

[vernal lion]

you can actually Aak s3 on Yato s3, meanwhile she won't take ANY damage

[sly drift]

[scarlet mortar]

bros pulling out the pause deploy to get a free aak buff

[soft salmon]

what's a good tip for dv-ex-8

[vernal lion]

kill all other mechs first, then kill the boss

[scarlet mortar]

tip for DV-EX-8: .....honestly you made it this far

arts against mechs, kill them before you drop awaken to phase 2, make sure you have enough ops fielded for the nuke tp

it's as standard as it gets

[gray stone]

DV-EX-8 is hard and CM makes Dorothy spawn

[scarlet mortar]

EX-8 is just a stat rush lmao there's no easy way to put it

the global nuke alone invalidates easy solns

[gray stone]

Yeah, pretty much stat check or be stat check
This event doesn't have a lot of gimmicks to begin with

[lapis hornet]

yeah it's tough for us new players

[vernal lion]

the issue is Aak doesn't cast it fast enough, so it wasted the first few hits (~1.75 tiles)
this only works best when there is 1 tile between her and the enemy, or can say if I can deploy her in 1 tile to the right in that picture

[scarlet mortar]

oh i wasn't expecting ya2 to even get a buffed S3

[vernal lion]

ofc she is

[scarlet mortar]

might as well just be an aak self-buff

[scarlet mortar]

mfw she travels at the same speed as quintus's hp bar

[sullen rover]

pro

[somber stone]

Wouldn’t stainless be better

[modern plover]

Not many adjacent tiles so you get at most 48%

[somber stone]

Basically same as aak and you get for full skill?

[modern plover]

Surely 2% more is relevant

[vernal lion]

the reason I don't use Stainless because his skill is slow

[fickle ravine]

Rosmontis s3 picks 2 targets in difference tile that closest to blue box the most right?

[vernal lion]

#strategy message

[fickle ravine]

Thanks, mate

[vernal lion]

[high bridge]

Best op for clearing firelight cast enemies? last 10 cleared my defense on the anni that ends tomorrow

[cyan gorge]

Ops with dot/multi hit

Like Mountain, La pluma, or Blue poison (with invis reveal)

I personally used Bibeak and Firewhistle

[crisp bolt]

oh yeah what's the next anni again?

is it the fiammetta one or the lin one?

[vernal lion]

Ideal City

there is Minimalist drone boss too

[crisp bolt]

[glass monolith]

2 choke points. Hole. Questions?

[crisp bolt]

I'm going to fiammetta gaming

[glass monolith]

(Me trying to cook Gladiia + Ange hole fiesta)

[hard urchin]

Not that stage again

[vernal lion]

your squad is more than enough tho

[spark sinew]

yeah just nuke with chalter and redeploys 🤔

[glass monolith]

Just roll double shield guard on this stage

[hard urchin]

I did

Yato and Texas MVPS

[deft badger]

@spark sinew was about to ask where is hauck 😄

hello my friend ❤️

[strange hazel]

does anyone know whether shields get consumed when an operator dodges

[still folio]

I don't know for sure but I don't think it would.

[glass monolith]

For my testing with Flametail shield from Roberta consumed before s1 "guaranteed Dodge"

Also roberta skin don't have clear indication of how much shield it has left

Tried with S3 either i missed 85% dodge 4 times in row, which honestly won't be first time, or shield always go before dodge roll

[fresh crest]

Which 5 star should I E2 for the new IS?

[pallid veldt]

none but you should e2 proviso for base

actually maybe quercus

[turbid badge]

provisio

also why r u specifically looking at supporters

shamare can be used for the end bosses

some people use quercus if no medic ticket , deepcolor is great ( cheap summoner fo early floors )

just listing some stuff for IS in general

[deft badger]

when is she going to get a rerun?

[turbid badge]

when u see her skin in shop

[still folio]

yes in your test it seemed like it always depleted Shield first before Dodge can take its turn.

[fresh crest]

Supporters 5 stars are the only ones I haven't really touched I compared to every other role so I thought I would show them some love

[turbid badge]

yeah other than that no really are worth the hope

quercus-shamare, also e2 provisio for base and done

[fresh crest]

Thank you

[gentle finch]

xd

[spark sinew]

well they suck

so yeah

[tidal sedge]

New 5* summoner when

Something that has summons around the power of non-fused Ling s3 dragons would be neat.

[wicked viper]

actually ye

defensive summons

2 block would be nice

the summon can have more def and res but less dmg is fine

and instead of costing 5, can cost 8-10

[lapis hornet]

small dragons are already rly strong tho think that's outside 5* budget no

unless it's her skill that makes it strong

aoe art dmg tho, 2 block, that's a lot stronger than scene

[tidal sedge]

Lower cap would be what I'd expect, and probably worse on-skill

[wicked viper]

a defensive summoner with talent giving regen to summon would be nice

[tidal sedge]

Without skill non-fused Ling s3 dragons are about as strong as Popukar iirc

[wicked viper]

altho it sound like better version of deepcolor

[foggy grove]

nah ppukar wish she has that stats

[glacial ledge]

is there a site/wiki that shows you the enemy pathing for stages?

[tidal sedge]

Hm. Yeah, the difference is bigger than I thought.

Ah, I see what it was. It was Ling s1 dragons

Ling s1 dragons but 2 block is probably fine

[foggy grove]

6* privilege

yeah s1 dragon is prolly fine

[tidal sedge]

Yeah I misremembered which dragon. Haven't used Ling in a while.

Still silly of me as I actually used Ling s1

[dapper meadow]

How competitive/meta is Typhon?

Finished S3M3 on her. Should i get S2M3 next? Or does S2 not really get used often enough? Whats the deal, taken a bit of a break

[spark sinew]

it's just afk skill

aka you will use it 99% of the time

kinda bad gains on mastery, but oh well

[dapper meadow]

alright

ty

[dapper meadow]

What about Swire alter? Any good at E2?

[foggy grove]

not really

[low rover]

Any suggestions on how I deal with this?

[little ravine]

borrow a ceobe s2 with module

[flint falcon]

eyja s3

[spark sinew]

qiubai also wipes it

[turbid badge]

eyja s3

passenger

just use a aoe caster

[limpid siren]

blocking on the red X gives you a lot of time to handle the inactive robots

pressure starts early on the left lane but there's not much to worry about there

as long as you can block the goop things on the right side, then basically any multi-target caster will kill the robots before they wake up

i used leizi

[low rover]

So once the goop things come from south bound, we would have already destroyed all mechs?

[limpid siren]

you should have enough time to get that done yea

[weak gazelle]

seem like another 10 op strat again for cm

[limpid siren]

unless your team is exceptionally underlevelled

[low rover]

Is e1 lv50 underleveled?

[limpid siren]

nah

i can test some stuff for about that level if you like

looks like it will be close actually

you can simply block those goops too though

scavenger survived with no healing because the engineers will stop attacking to heal the nearby robot

right lane will need 4 or more block count depending on how weak your dps is there, i had gummy and melantha there but leaked one

left lane was just courier and steward

8 deploy slots for the stage could make medic coverage awkward, but there's not that much pressure to need two dedicated healers

[dapper meadow]

I have one of the insta promote to E2 L90 Top Op voucher. Which 6★ would be the best choice (so which one is most meta/op or gets most improvement at E2 L90 vs like L70)? List of operators to consider:

• Typhon (S2+S3 @ M3, will mod once 100 trust). Or from Upcoming Ops: Jessica alt, Hoederer, Virtuosa, Viviana, Degenbrecher

Was told Degen, Shu, Zuo Le, Ray were all pretty strong. Are they much stronger/more meta than Typhon, since already plenty of strong ranged dps options?

[civic bear]

degen for sure

[dapper meadow]

hows she compare to like Mylnar or Gavalter or Chalter

[limpid siren]

@gray stone leto vs lappland napkin maths

numbers will be probably be slightly higher in practice because i didn't do any interval rounding

[gray stone]

Shouldn't Leto be also higher in practice due to the nature of having auto recovery?

[limpid siren]

sure but there's always some assumptions to make when dealing with atk recovery for the paper maths

[civic bear]

closer if not same as mlynar

[limpid siren]

what also remains true is that - outside of new players literally not having better options - lappland isn't really picked for her damage anyway

so even if leto is technically stronger, it's not by enough to matter

[gray stone]

Well yeah, but I guess that opens up another selector option when a newbie rerolls on Degenbrecher

[limpid siren]

[civic bear]

why is skill dmg uses 23 atk

should be 24

[limpid siren]

.

[civic bear]

accounting for dmg type diff both should deals p much similar damage when carrying stages at the end of the day

[limpid siren]

yea that's the other thing

it'll be nice for people weird enough to raise both to be able to pick phys or arts

but from a glance they look like they'll punch at about the same weight class

[ebon ridge]

gavial alter s2 on left-middle side. any lane holders on both far left and right sides. a executor operator for any strays on middle right, like repairmen and silveractivation goops.

a debuffer for the 4 power armors in the middle helps/buffer, for gavial ofc

[tidal sedge]

Hmm.

I wonder if Samivilinn is a good punching bag for comparison tests as long as IS4 is relevant.

Or maybe too easy to care about

[void terrace]

Hmm can you stack two of the same foldartals

Like 2 50%hp foldartals on the boss for 100% hp

[tidal sedge]

Yes

[void terrace]

Yeet

[dapper meadow]

Anyone else previously use https://map.ark-nights.com/areas a lot, and notice squad presets arent saving anymore, when it previously used to remember squad comp, when opening up new map, new tab, etc

The Settings page resets the squad data whenever I open up a map. It stays saved as long as i dont go to a map page.

[vital arrow]

mod3?

[vernal lion]

yes

[glass monolith]

"But she has shit trap regen"

[limpid siren]

ela + elegant swire makes the first cm 2 op that doesn't involve ling

[limpid siren]

i noticed this idly, but it didn't bother me enough to look into it

[soft crystal]

Ela is a debuffer trapmaster that still does a ton of damage by herself

[limpid siren]

the debuff is arguably still pretty selfish

like

i think you can make the argument that it's just discount atk_scale that she happens to be able to share

and i know that is just what dmg_scale is

but the other significant dmg_scale units can't really abuse their own dmg_scale properly

[tidal sedge]

Sounds like Ray

[limpid siren]

they're generally pure support, or they don't have enough dmg_scale to really shift the needle by enough

[soft crystal]

Isnt 35% fragile kinda decent but i dont know how short it is

[limpid siren]

it's pretty solid for how few conditions she really has for it

duration can be overlapped pretty easily as long as:

• there are valid tiles for mines
• you have enough mines for the duration you desire

i think she's the first real "dps but i can apply fragile too" kinda unit we've seen

if that makes sense

[soft crystal]

Yeah

[merry narwhal]

i think that was Gnosis

[limpid siren]

if she's meta, or - probably more accurately - relevant for high end clears is another story

nah idk

gnosis is a bit more hamstrung on his personal dps

his notable appearances are all in content that enables him

SN, SSS, stuff that tidies up his freeze uptime

[soft crystal]

Gnosis dealt damage but never was comparable to a real dps

At least in the realm of 6 stars

[limpid siren]

yea but 1.15* dmg_scale is kinda dookie

it's still nice for ray herself, but it's kinda selfish

[tidal sedge]

Yeah. I got what you meant

[soft crystal]

I thought her capybara was ray only buff

[tidal sedge]

With dps now getting gapless cc I'm not surprised by this tbh

[soft crystal]

Well debuff

[long epoch]

I personally think Ela can be deployed anywhere with the mod is the biggest deal.

[soft crystal]

So it affects all physical damage

[limpid siren]

yea ela dodges all that "well you need a place to put them/the mines" nonsense

[limpid siren]

it reads this way to me, but i haven't used ray

[tidal sedge]

5* trapper with X module might be neat