strategy

[tidal sedge]

Theres also missions

Is3

Iirc i did one yesterday

Got like 3 for free?

Idk i forgor

[viscid mist]

oh di

i completel forgot those exist

but you need to clear a run to unlock them

should be easy on IS3, not so in IS2

Idk about IS4

[tidal sedge]

Is4?

Are you on CN?

[viscid mist]

yes

[polar crane]

yes

[vernal lion]

IS4 will be in next week tho

[tidal sedge]

Whats CN banner rn

[viscid mist]

i will play IS4 on EN so i can lern how to play it on CN

[tidal sedge]

Oh thats rly cool

[viscid mist]

🫡

[polar crane]

fia archetto

[viscid mist]

rn there's only jo13 in CN

and this cringe regular banner

[tidal sedge]

What ops

[viscid mist]

qiubai mlynar swire mountain

[polar crane]

kernal locating too

[viscid mist]

🥱

[tidal sedge]

Meh..

[tidal sedge]

Does it have eyja

[viscid mist]

yeah very shit if not rerolling

i was able to get a mlynar in 30 or so pulls

💪

[tidal sedge]

I mean

Mly+mountain+qiubai

[polar crane]

no but cn and en have diff pool

[viscid mist]

mountain is a beginnners banner unit

qiubai is pretty mediocre

only winner is mlynar

[polar crane]

how do you reroll in cn

[viscid mist]

you don't

[tidal sedge]

Yeayea cuz it switches every rerun

[viscid mist]

i just got lucky

i'm talking about when this drops for EN

[tidal sedge]

Lol💀

[polar crane]

[tidal sedge]

Oh man

Ill have nothing to pull

Ivbejddj

Ive alr gone insane for waiting for typhon

Ive just been rolling even after typhon for privoso

My luck has been seriously bad

Only getting santallas

[viscid mist]

🥱 flop banner

[tidal sedge]

Meh

Say whatever you want honestly

[spark sinew]

is it wrong though

best part is proviso

[tidal sedge]

Yea

Im still gonna roll more

17 rolls after typhon

So uh its been around..

69 pulls?

Still privoso less

I would just spend my op but ofc im not gonna do that

[spark sinew]

not like there's much to spend

[tidal sedge]

True

Its how i got baited into spending exalt too anyways

(i did get exalt ofc)

[gray stone]

What happened

[foggy grove]

It doesn't look like that on mine

[quick pecan]

same

[tidal sedge]

Uh not the same for me either

[gray stone]

[polar crane]

happened to me too
but I just favorite help and it fixed

[cosmic thicket]

the good ending

[weak gazelle]

this took forever when aurora have to kill mama john herself

[quick pecan]

where aurora skin

[weak gazelle]

bad skin
e2 art all the way

[quick pecan]

[weak gazelle]

finally done
its actually fun santalla + leizi idea for this one

[quick pecan]

meteorite pog

[weak gazelle]

not really, she's there to speed thing up
cover above 2 lane and she fail miserably

[quick pecan]

not enough certs to buy devices / oriron for fire whistle e2

back to my ayers unlimited shrapnel works trust farm

[tidal sedge]

Hecc

[cosmic thicket]

how did chongyue die

[tidal sedge]

Not sure tbh...

A lot of things were happening at once lol

Basically i think its this last wave that im not sure about. Everything before 350 is solid

[cosmic thicket]

as always

[tidal sedge]

Yeah...

Its always the last wave the screws me up

[glass monolith]

Boss apply Covid. Covid does 1000 elemental damage + 800 arts damage. Get filtered by Eyja alter checj

[turbid badge]

codiv

[viscid mist]

wow santalla deals no damage

[turbid badge]

interval is stonksp

its splash caster atk with low interval

but random

soo

but splash kinda bigo

but comparedto 6*

yea

[quick pecan]

random but not random

icicle drops left right center something like that

but random tile in each one

the skill doesn't help itself because it expands her range though

unironically a time where splash caster default range would be good

[glass monolith]

Caster which faced wall before Fuze s2

[quick pecan]

[turbid badge]

the pathing thing?

[quick pecan]

yes

that part is never rng

[turbid badge]

oh lol

[quick pecan]

consistently alternates

[turbid badge]

yea

[quick pecan]

but yeah imo shes a skip

[turbid badge]

i use her with pram

if i can get ger

i got base slave

[quick pecan]

let me do some insane copium and calculate her total damage assuming all her icicles hit

[glass monolith]

Skipped into my roster quite a few times

[turbid badge]

i have

[quick pecan]

give me a sec tho still farming device

[spark sinew]

what, who

[turbid badge]

heres damage per hit

[glass monolith]

Oof

[turbid badge]

@quick pecan

did u see fuze

kit

[quick pecan]

yeah his s2 is cringe

i am placing all hope into s1

[viscid mist]

so is4 have missions instead of just clearing to a certain part for the rewards

and typhon mission is to deploy her 10 times

i'm trying to figure out the logic behind this choice

[quick pecan]

oh hmm santalla does about 32k aoe during s2

i dont know what situation she will ever hit that total though

[spark sinew]

how long was s2 again

[quick pecan]

15s

[spark sinew]

not terrible

[quick pecan]

santalla 2k dps real

[spark sinew]

this is something you would do only once per battle

and they want the length of monthlies to be about 10 combats ish?

idk

[quick pecan]

committed account damage

raised ayers to e2 75

[spark sinew]

angle leveling shit to max challenge

[quick pecan]

my nearl is max

so are my saria and reedic

i like healers

[flint falcon]

nearl isnt shit

[quick pecan]

truge

hauck is saying that bc he unadded me due to me leaving chong at e2 75

[spark sinew]

my decision was right

considering stuff you did after

[quick pecan]

huh

what did i do

was it when i said i was getting elysium module

[spark sinew]

should be before
idr what though, i just remember the fact maybe it was so vile i erased it from the memory

[gray stone]

wtf

criminal behavior

should be locked up

[quick pecan]

he already kills everything bestie

[spark sinew]

not really

[quick pecan]

your chong must be broken then idk

[wintry sedge]

my brain is rotting

[spark sinew]

mulb s1

[wintry sedge]

was too lazy to activate skill

takes brainrot to a whole new level

[quick pecan]

mulberry s1 is fine but not in this situation lol

ppl do all this for surtr

thats crazy

[wintry sedge]

it was a borrowed surtr, I don't actually have her

[quick pecan]

that makes it worse

[wintry sedge]

oh yg were right, mulberry s2 actually did make a significant difference

[turbid badge]

u want 2 guardiansp

[wintry sedge]

already reached the deployment limit

[wintry sedge]

don't worry, I only use her once in a blue moon

[spark sinew]

yeah mulb s1 is ass

although now that i look at it, you were probably scrambling for healers (looks at ansel)

[glass monolith]

Yostar dropped Rat Rerun PV on youtube

[wintry sedge]

yes lmao, ansel was convenient because he had +1 range on his skill

I would've placed perfumer in the middle but she eats up a portion of the heals

[fiery marsh]

Pushers makes the stage easy

[wintry sedge]

I used pushers for my initial practice stage clear, however I ended up doing this out of boredom instead

[fiery marsh]

Ah, boredknights

[wintry sedge]

it do be like that, I was originally expecting typhon's event to be more exciting

[dark violet]

This map has to be one of the worst ones to auto trust

[spark sinew]

kid named

anti drone tiles

[dark violet]

it certainly doesn't help that my ranged ops have stubby range so using those tiles means I can't hit half the drones that come in

[spark sinew]

jieyun and eyja would hit them wouldn't they 🤔

[dark violet]

jieyun targeting is a nightmare

eyja is the only good choice yeah

[spark sinew]

i actually don't know if s2 hits air

it should

[dark violet]

it does yeah

it's more the auto attacks that target the random slimes and let the closer drones pass by

also lower aspd on artillery hurts more than no ranged bonus

the problem of those tiles is that they're guarded as well, so I can't deploy the ops early

and I need them early

that's the current state of my squad (ignore bagpipe and mulberry)

[wintry sedge]

it's been a while since I've done this stage, I think I used cantabile for center lane while setting up healers for the two side platforms

[cosmic thicket]

what is this team

[dark violet]

the trust squad

[wintry sedge]

why the bagpipe neglect 🥹

[spark sinew]

oh yeah you're perfect candidate

[dark violet]

it's actually kinda funny how more than half of the squad is currently base ops investments

[spark sinew]

do s1m3 jieyun ty

[dark violet]

sl1

I don't plan on doing more

[spark sinew]

wtf

actually defective

[dark violet]

indeed

that's how trust squad rolls

the only skills I increase are medics and non charger vanguards

for faster dp gen

[dark violet]

it's not really neglect, more like she is on the long line of trust squad

but there's 7 ops before her in the vanguard slot

[vocal leaf]

it would be easy with reedalt and passy

[dark violet]

well, first I need to have them, and they need to be in the trust squad

quercus was the last one to leave, for aak

[vocal leaf]

thorns also pretty good

[dark violet]

won't be a while until indra leaves, 23% more to go

[spark sinew]

it's impressive how you don't have everyone 200 tbh

[dark violet]

well it progresses but it takes time

I also need the resources for the e2 modules

currently at 166 ops at 200

[vocal leaf]

reed is seriously one of my favorite characters

[dark violet]

it's already a miracle I have several usable ops in my squad

there were periods with no 6* as well

[turbid badge]

not showcase on ap

the pRb

[vocal leaf]

oh i was reading the rest and funny thing i farming caster chips for minimalist, im also upgrading base ops thats why tequila and shamare are in the trust farm team, i recently got her from kernel shop

[dark violet]

nicee

the tough part of carries in trust squad is that they don't last long

it's going to be hard when eyja and eyjalter leave

[vocal leaf]

you only use non max trust ops for farming?

i let myself use 4 max ops for efficiency, more than that is too much for me

[turbid badge]

yes

im kinda sad

[dark violet]

of course, that's the fun of it

[turbid badge]

i dont have ayaaptwr

for goat team

aya alter

[vocal leaf]

i see

[dark violet]

one highlight was when I had to autofarm andoain and my squad had atrocious dps

in the end firewatch did most of the work

[limpid siren]

[dark violet]

cursed clear

[limpid siren]

Holy moly folinic usage

[dark violet]

her damage actually saved me

also vigil placement is intentional, for his best usage, target fodder

[limpid siren]

That firewatch tile is the good kush too

[spark sinew]

i wonder why they couldn't push doro a bit earlier for jp kr en

surely the news about new trapmaster will eat into doro rerun profits

wait this was supposed to be a quote

[dark violet]

new trapmaster can't make a hit on doro

[spark sinew]

bet she will

especially if she's not dps oriented (so no cringe shit like p5 on doro)

[flint falcon]

what's doro's p5 do

[dark violet]

+10% damage

ah, wai

+8%

[flint falcon]

is that like a huge deal

[dark violet]

Idk, does it sound significant to have +8% damage?

considering the mines do 350% damage

so any small increase is more significant by at least 3.5 times

[spark sinew]

it's mostly p4 and p5 combined
especially with the module

[dark violet]

ye

[spark sinew]

and yeah the difference was quite apparent, personally

[limpid siren]

easier to notice those kinds of differences the more pressure you put on the unit to perform

low op or solo runs will definitely feel the difference

[dark violet]

couldn't be me

[turbid badge]

yea

doro low ops

can be seen

utilizing that

[lapis hornet]

it's more like

ak is a game where you have enough or you don't

even a 1 hp can be the difference between dead and alive

so you'll always run into situations where minuscule differences can make an impact

[turbid badge]

yea

[lapis hornet]

honestly tho I rarely notice pot gates

[turbid badge]

mhm

[lapis hornet]

like dp pots are obvious

[flint falcon]

in which case support oriented units can also potentially get cringe pots though

[turbid badge]

stuff like res pots

[lapis hornet]

but damage pot is usually rly hard to spot

unless you copy runs

it's all tryhard stuff anyway

[limpid siren]

every time i miss a kill i blame missing atk pot, then i leave and see i either have it, or the unit doesn't have it and realise i'm just shit at the game

[lapis hornet]

kinda meaningless honestly unless you're a record chaser

[limpid siren]

[turbid badge]

lol

i just think of another position

and timings

[quick pecan]

it feels bad when i see i’m missing an atk pot + some atk scale or atk% from a talent or something

[limpid siren]

strategising? illegal

but nah, the last time i really felt the pinch was before my rockrock had atk and talent pot

it made some kills in ch11 pretty tight

[turbid badge]

i do feel about not 90'ing/80'ing alot of my roste

[glass monolith]

This chat is underground cooking show

[turbid badge]

alot of these operators would love extra levels

especially the ones that scale hard like chongus

hes 40 btw

[limpid siren]

yea

i should find a bunch of horde stages and see how santalla fares on them after module

15/40 cycle feels kinda punishing though

can go as low as ~30 sp cost with ptilopsis ig

33% uptime instead of 27%

[tidal sedge]

The more I toy with FD-8 the more I don't understand the fear mongering it had

"Andoain rushes blue box" was a total lie

[limpid siren]

ig i'll find out later today

[turbid badge]

i wish i hav santalla

[limpid siren]

i wish i had p6

[turbid badge]

+23% atk

yum

[quick pecan]

give me bassline

[limpid siren]

i don't get the hype for bassline but not leto

[quick pecan]

igneus i’ve coped ayers so long

at this point i use him out of pity

[limpid siren]

nah i mean in help

[quick pecan]

leto is good i just don’t know if i reeeally need her

[limpid siren]

people will mention bassline like he's actually special

[turbid badge]

for 5* she should be a nice addition

her cycle is solid

[quick pecan]

help will always like a healing defender with generic s1

[turbid badge]

🥺

[quick pecan]

it lets them optimize out medics

which they like

[limpid siren]

hung bad

[quick pecan]

so real

yeah no leto is good ig i just look at all my options and question if she’ll stand out

[limpid siren]

I just mean more for the general hype i see

I get that leto is “not lappland”

[quick pecan]

i’ve seen some ppl hype her for her rarity

[limpid siren]

But bassline is also “not nearl”

[quick pecan]

like salmon

[limpid siren]

Fair

[quick pecan]

someone else but i forgor

i hype her for her rarity when ppl try to act like she’s bad

bc they’re stupid and didn’t bother to check the numbers

also kind of a sidetrack but man

i used to think ayers s1 was so good when i first started the game

i would borrow my friends ayers all the time

[vivid rain]

Lol

[quick pecan]

now looking at the numbers he is honestly worse than some splash casters basics lmfaoo

[turbid badge]

lol

[limpid siren]

[quick pecan]

idk if a 1s slow justifies that

[limpid siren]

Yea poor ayerscarpe

[quick pecan]

i mean the slow does help sometimes

it feels longer than 1s in practice

[vivid rain]

It's so sad greyy exist

[quick pecan]

if he was 2sp i would be so happy

[limpid siren]

People took quite a while to warm up to greyy

[turbid badge]

yeah

remember the release

[quick pecan]

i do think ayers s2 cooks

but the sp cost is uhh

[limpid siren]

Yea you can see they taxed a lot of early power strikes with an additional effect

[turbid badge]

i was gonna get greyy for base wayy more than for gameplay(y) lmao

[quick pecan]

i pulled greyy bc i like dog boy

[turbid badge]

lol flint is what

4 sp?

🤑

[tidal sedge]

Brawler powerstrikes are all 3 sp minimum

[limpid siren]

Dagda is 4 sp def recovery on a one block

Actually trolling

[quick pecan]

i am now full dagda cope

post module

[turbid badge]

i used dagda

s1

[quick pecan]

i’m raising her eventually

[turbid badge]

to tank a collosus

but its so impractical

lol

u need blemi

[limpid siren]

Yea

I remember trying stuff like that when i got her

[limpid siren]

I still use her as my second “vanguard” sometimes

[quick pecan]

her numbers on s2 are satisfactory for me post module

[limpid siren]

Her numbers before mod were already surprisingly high

[turbid badge]

what are they post mod?

[quick pecan]

people complain about her never reaching her ceiling but her floor with module is now quite strong and the requirement to meet ceiling is now 6 enemies faster

[limpid siren]

huh really

12 enemies instead of 18?

[quick pecan]

it was either 5 or 6

let me double check

yeah they increased base crit modifier from 150% to 162% and increased the % per kill by 1%

[limpid siren]

[quick pecan]

5 lower yeah

honestly pretty good module

[limpid siren]

man 10 aspd is basically nothing to a brawler tho

[quick pecan]

the issue was never the ceiling it was reaching it

dagda crits during s2 are now 1.5k minimum post module

[limpid siren]

huh nevermind apparently 10 aspd is pretty good

[quick pecan]

i’m sad for indra tho

that module

flints was nice i think

[limpid siren]

[quick pecan]

absolutely cookin

[limpid siren]

wait what is this horse shit they gave indra

[turbid badge]

lol u didnt see

[quick pecan]

no increase in dodge chance is actually pretty yikes

[limpid siren]

i think dagda wins out of the three

[turbid badge]

i checked on bilibili and like

🥺

[quick pecan]

crazy that the freebie unit gains the most

[turbid badge]

had to double check

[quick pecan]

dagda in her krooster arc

[turbid badge]

both are freebies

hahahaha

[limpid siren]

true

[quick pecan]

indra is a mess of rng made freebie

i got indra for completion but man

[limpid siren]

monkaS

[quick pecan]

it was at the cost of vulcan hp pot

there’s such a high crit chance on dagda s2 and she attacks so fast what were they thinkin

[turbid badge]

i should probably get carnelian module

her second one doesn't seem too appealing to me

[quick pecan]

beeswax jumpscare

i actually don’t have her

[turbid badge]

its okay u can use lin

[quick pecan]

[turbid badge]

or mint

[tall cairn]

Almost thought this was casterknights.

[turbid badge]

im missing the goat medic

but i think its more fun w/o her

have to plan around the two phala and bena

[quick pecan]

that second mint skin kind of cute

[tall cairn]

✅ phalanx is cool.

[turbid badge]

fun fact

carnelian and earthspirit s2 both have feet in the icon

[quick pecan]

the mint clears in lone trail were beyond based

[turbid badge]

i need to invest more into theseguys

[tall cairn]

Eben e2 whenge.

[turbid badge]

yes ikr

also beeswax dies

to the swarm

having to rely on bena deadg

arrow corrosion spam goes hard

[tall cairn]

Oh Typhon stage?

[turbid badge]

i could use eyja alt

[tall cairn]

The one you start off basically blind?

Can you even reach the ranged tiles with 2 melee units?

[tall cairn]

Tis valid.

[turbid badge]

whichh map?

[tall cairn]

FD-7 I think?

[turbid badge]

eyjas so nroken

[latent anvil]

ys

[tall cairn]

Oh you can.

CM time?

[turbid badge]

yea

[limpid siren]

CM sounds rough with 2 ground units

Gl

[turbid badge]

man i wish i had masteries or e2 eben lol

this is rough

[tidal sedge]

Igneus what did you do for FD-7 cm

[limpid siren]

just the usual daisy chain to the right

specter kills like 6 or 7 knights

most of it is just moving fast enough ig

[tidal sedge]

Huh. I would've thought folks would play middle

[limpid siren]

opener

[tidal sedge]

Hmm. Interesting

[limpid siren]

i couldn't think of a good way to play middle with this team

only 5 ground units and no way to catch the knights that run bottom

[tidal sedge]

Oh. Specter, I should have thought of her instead of Skadi

[limpid siren]

she eats the knights alive during s2

[tidal sedge]

I think I really do have too many ops now

[limpid siren]

tbh it's why i like doing these fixed teams people give me

[tidal sedge]

Took me a solid 20 minutes to figure Swire Alter would be good for holding Andoain for a FD-8 strat today too

[limpid siren]

[quick pecan]

@limpid siren @tidal sedge how do we feel about this

[tidal sedge]

Warmy?

[quick pecan]

ye

i can’t find any videos on her

[tidal sedge]

Her rapid cycle on s1 intrigues me

[limpid siren]

i think the burn duo could be fun

[tidal sedge]

S2 I don't want to comment on as it's entirely reliant on how good her future burn support looks

[limpid siren]

warmy looks alright by herself, but yea it's hard to say much without the burn support out

[quick pecan]

s2 without support is three target 24k assuming charged

30s up 40s down

a burn support would take that to 36k before talent and before res

oh plus the actual damage from the burn proc

which is the main sell

her burn procs on s1 at least will be funny to watch

7k followed by an additional 2k just chunked out

[limpid siren]

is that per target or split

[quick pecan]

per target

[limpid siren]

neat

[quick pecan]

671(3) * 12 per target

(yes i’m assuming atk pot)

[limpid siren]

always assume maxed imo

if people want maths for their specific setup they can do it themselves

[quick pecan]

yeah the burn proc + talent will take it to like 33k per target

[green gazelle]

Can you guys help me with this anni map on how I should place my ops?(my ops are mostly dying to the fire)

[peak cloak]

still need?

[green gazelle]

I need to clear this to get my limit to 1800

[peak cloak]

cooking time

[rapid jewel]

if it's just to increase your limit and not the one you'll be farming I recommend borrowing a wandering medic support unit (eyja alter is probably easy to find)

it is possible to clear without one, but it will be much more difficult

[green gazelle]

I have mullberry at E1 lvl 50 could I use her?

[limpid siren]

isn't the limit increase only from chernobog, lungmen outskirts, and lungmen downtown?

[rapid jewel]

yeah she would help

[civic bear]

increases from first ever rotation anni clear for the 1600 to 1800 iirc

[limpid siren]

huh neat

[foggy grove]

yeah cherno actually doesn't increase any

outskirt,downtown and rotating

[sullen rover]

cherno? the schwarz guy?

[dark glade]

Mlynar s2 jumpscare

[foggy grove]

<@&586570970345635868>

[sullen rover]

no way.. 🤑

[peak cloak]

i tried Mulberry (e2 60) before and i will say, she doesnt work so well in this annihilation compare to Honeyberry, because:
their main skills are serving in different purposes.

the downside of Mul s2 is she will has massive off-skill time. that's being said, u will have to find out the perfect timing for s2 otherwise u will get fcked up so hard.
why not use her s1? xd ,Honeyberry exist.

u have Mlynar? m3 yet?

my advice if u have enough dps, consider borrowing at least s1 sl7 eyjaberry so that burn dmg almost extinct

[quick pecan]

hmm this was kind of free

[scarlet mortar]

you could setup a cc death drap at mid and everything except colossi will die

[limpid siren]

6 is super free yea

set up some blockers like this when the shamans start spawning and go to bedge

[dark glade]

7 cm is funny

[limpid siren]

[dark glade]

All other stage feels free

Unless you doing some n*che thing on 8

[scarlet mortar]

mushas and dreadnoughts independently beat FD-8

and cautus

and a defender 1p duo

wait correction, defender 1-tile

[tidal sedge]

6 feels like a reminder of what new ops can do to old content

[limpid siren]

i think the map is a sham without mudrock to apply pressure

but i suppose even with mudrock, new 6*s do exist

[tidal sedge]

Mudrock would get nuked pretty easily with 6* firepower

Only control immune during skill also means she can be exploded by Gnosis + dps ops of choice if that's called for

[scarlet mortar]

even when doro doesn't absolutely dumpster TW maps by charging gramophones easily she does it by cc'ing all the winterwisps and colossi

cc helps

TW mobs are pretty outdated as expected, they have no hp besides the winterwisps

[somber stone]

Golem honest reaction

[scarlet mortar]

what is max hp to a gramophone

[foggy grove]

you can just kill golem too with our current 6*

[azure oxide]

Hi hellooo, started the game a few months ago. How do you guys allocate resources to your operators? I find it hard to manage them since there's a lot of good operators but I only have limited resources?

[scarlet mortar]

if you think it's tiring to keep burning resources for 6*s you might wanna slow down

[peak cloak]

simply just slow down haha

[scarlet mortar]

and like, raise the lower rarities while you're working through it

[somber stone]

Get distracted by random funny stuff

[scarlet mortar]

a full E1max 4* squad clears non-limited events already, so half the time you can spend learning how to cook

i used guides in year 1 but wanted to break off from them pretty quickly

having to check walkthroughs as you play is lame

[turbid badge]

golems are weak

[limpid siren]

didn't even need dorothy's firepower, robin stomped a lot of tw maps

[scarlet mortar]

the damage doesn't matter much if we're not talking abt soloes

robin works the same yh

[peak cloak]

u can take a look

i remember u have total 10 deployment slots so the 2 remaining u can cook it

oh and dont forget about the sniper guys so plan your deployments well

but i'm not sure if e1 Penance is enough for this purpose, u can try out

[somber stone]

Mlynar taunt tho

[old arch]

Hmm. So I've been trying to better understand a new mechanic that wasn't there when I left a while back: elemental damage.

[peak cloak]

🧐 what kind of mechanic?

ah elemental dmg?

[old arch]

Uh, namely FD-7. I did clear it through brute force (Cuora S2 + Ptilopsis S2), but I'd like to be able to address it appropriately.

Yeah.

So there were those sniper guys shooting at Cuora and she built up this gauge. Once it popped, she permanently lost def, and y'know, that but on repeat.

I raised up a Honeyberry (E2, S7) to address that.

However, she couldn't outheal the elemental damage.

[peak cloak]

https://arknights.fandom.com/wiki/Elemental_Damage u can take a look

[old arch]

🤔 So Cuora inevitably lost def after a few shots.

[marble parrot]

the elemental damage those snipers do is Corrosion which specifically lowers def after procc'ing

[old arch]

Is Honeyberry not supposed to be able to, long-term, sustain against an onslaught of elemental damage?

Yeah.

Right but.

[scarlet mortar]

wandering medics are kinda a stopgap measure tbh

[old arch]

Honeyberry kinda healed that Corrosion off for a bit.

Before it just started stacking anyway.

[scarlet mortar]

on one hand there's eyja2 who stops a rift and not a gap

[old arch]

How would a player typically address the issue of corrosion without using brute force through stats.

[scarlet mortar]

but even that has its limits

[marble parrot]

swapping defenders

[old arch]

Hmm.

[marble parrot]

tbh

[old arch]

Oh.

I see.

[somber stone]

Crusher

[old arch]

So elemental damage is, by design, not supposed to be something you're able to weather indefinitely?

[surreal lily]

Protect your defender with another defender

[somber stone]

Depends on the type

[marble parrot]

^

[old arch]

I have seen Corrosion only one other time (when I did that one rerun event with the high tides).

But it's a relatively new mechanic to me and I haven't encountered it enough to understand it.

Or like, how to counter it. Aside from your guys' suggestions of swapping bodies.

So swapping is actually the answer?

Wait.

But then why bring a wandering medic?

If I could just swap.

[somber stone]

To swap slower

[old arch]

Oh.

[surreal lily]

you can silence but in FD7 case, it seems so

[old arch]

Uhh.

I couldn't. The snipers were on the other side of the map.

[marble parrot]

bum rushing left takes a bit of effort

esp if u need a majority of ur dps/ops right side

[surreal lily]

Yeah in this case bait with last deploy

[old arch]

Yeah, that's Cuora. 😭

I mean by the end of the operation she had like 200 def and Ptilopsis was just healing her after she took like 50% of her hp with every hit lol.

Okay got it.

So ideally I'd bring in another defender and Honeyberry is there to help me swap less.

[surreal lily]

Yes

[old arch]

Since she would lose def, but it'd be at a slower rate.

Okay.

Hmm.

I did read up on the mechanic and there's a few others.

But none seem really as punishing as Corrosion.

Maybe I'm wrong though lol.

But I just haven't seen them.

[dark glade]

Oh ||adams back||

[old arch]

Should I click it. 😭

[surreal lily]

No

[dark glade]

Depend

[somber stone]

Yes

[old arch]

Okay.

I'm only on R8-11 so maybe that's spoilers.

[dark glade]

You havent play is3 dont you

[foggy grove]

||this is a spoiler 🥱 ||

[old arch]

No I haven't!

I want to but.

Maybe after I clear ch. 12.

Okay wait, so I'd like to ask everyone here who's completely caught up with the main story.

[dark glade]

Naah

Play it now

[old arch]

How often have you needed to deploy a wandering medic?

[somber stone]

Damazti with the corrosion

[old arch]

Or needed to bring one into your squad.

[dark glade]

I have eyja brainrot dont ask me

[somber stone]

I just always bring eyjalt

[old arch]

OTL

[dark glade]

So the answer is like everytime, unless you dont have eyjaberry

[foggy grove]

not very often

[old arch]

^ Thank you LOL.

I don't have any Alter operators.

[foggy grove]

eyjaberyy is the outler because she is very good as regular medic too

[old arch]

Since uh, I think I came back after they all ran already.

[dark glade]

Even on ch 12 i dont use any wandering medic because i dont want to spend red certs

Just switch tanks

[old arch]

Alright.

Matterhorn's time to shine again.

Wb to the squad mate.

[foggy grove]

my h12-4 only use 1 medic

it's nightingale

[old arch]

Thank you for the info everyone.

[dark glade]

And on is3 even tho corrosion is the main theme

[foggy grove]

well you can count saria as medic too ig

[dark glade]

You just dont draft 6★ medic because of hope cost

[old arch]

I really need to do IS.

It sounds like fun.

I just.

[dark glade]

It is if you like it

[old arch]

Want to finish ch. 12.

Before I branch out to other content.

[dark glade]

It can be tedious if you just chasing the reward

[old arch]

But I'm scared because during my hiatus I saw a lot of videos (I'm still relatively unspoiled) about the ||Talulah|| fight and the ||actual boss after Talulah||.

So that scares me. 😭

I'll probably spam you guys with questions once I begin.

Sorry in advance. OTL

[dark glade]

Do we ||spoiler tag it|| or not

[old arch]

Do I click that?

[dark glade]

Yes

[old arch]

Uh.

I'll just ask very specific questions.

I prefer to do my runs as blindly as possible, but if I'm stuck or at a certain checkpoint.

I'll reach out for suggestions.

[dark glade]

Ch 9 is kinda ehatever

Ch10 is fun

[old arch]

When you say fun, you mean I will struggle right?

[marble parrot]

Ch10 is indeed fun

[somber stone]

I love necrosis!!!!!

[dark glade]

Dont worry, the stage mechanic will help you

[old arch]

I'll see all you guys in a few days once I get to the Talulah fight then lol.

o7

[dark glade]

o7

[old arch]

Busy farming the event rn so I'm not making progress.

[dark glade]

Wait but

You dont need to farm in event

[old arch]

?

Don't I want to clear shop.

[dark glade]

The efficiency is not good

[marble parrot]

U get currency everywhere that costs sanity

[dark glade]

And you get currency by playing any stage

[old arch]

...

[marble parrot]

aside from annihilation

[dark glade]

So just do stroy now

[marble parrot]

^

[dark glade]

Before DV rerun

Because on DV you want to farm

[old arch]

[marble parrot]

mini-events like this allow u to gain currency via story

[old arch]

Wait what's DV.

[dark glade]

Dorothy Vision

[old arch]

I see.

That's the sheep one iirc.

[marble parrot]

Dorothy's Vision, an event that coming given they released the rerun pv for it

[dark glade]

Sheep is SL

DV is mech

[old arch]

Oh nvm.

LOL.

[marble parrot]

Dorothy is the robots

[old arch]

Okay!

So DV I will be farming alright.

[marble parrot]

yes

[old arch]

Uh, do we have a timeline?

[marble parrot]

no

officially speaking

[dark glade]

Yostar: what timeline

[old arch]

Alright. Let's help ||Talulah||. 😭

[marble parrot]

Just wait till #game-news tells us otherwise

[latent anvil]

[fading hull]

Do I need to promote2 Amiya to beat 7-18?

[foggy grove]

lol no

[cosmic thicket]

no mlynar is literally right there

(and typhon)

[foggy grove]

use mines,mlynar it

add typhon on top if not enough

[fading hull]

I use mlynar and got him to second phase but his cooldown is not fast enough to kill him when he was walking to the base mb this is my skill issue Ima try again then Thanks!

[scarlet mortar]

mlynar, typhon, SA

[peak cloak]

well, simply use mines then

[scarlet mortar]

you could kill pat twice over with that

camp mlynar near the altar for a free phase 1 kill

then prepare a ranged bait while you setup typhon + SA for phase 2

[peak cloak]

doable with sl7? i dont think dude has ,3

m3

[scarlet mortar]

mines

more than makes up for it

[peak cloak]

yea sure]

[scarlet mortar]

if not then a def shredder would help

ely >> myrtle real

[foggy grove]

if you kill pat on top right you have even time for mlynar to be redeployed but yeah just typhon/sa phase 2

[fading hull]

I have Saga should I replace someone with her?

[scarlet mortar]

nah that squad is already overkill

mountain mlynar typhon SA 12F probs wins

[fading hull]

so close

[scarlet mortar]

oh zamn timely release
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV18S421w7qd/

[peak cloak]

#game-news here we go folks

[scarlet mortar]

7-18 CM 3* only

[fading hull]

[quick pecan]

tfw i want greyy alt and rockrock pots but i’m near pity and saving for hoederer

[foggy grove]

where greyy banner

[quick pecan]

dorothy rerun

greyy alt + 🪨🪨 rate up

[tidal sedge]

Typhon s3 vs Awaken. Hm.

[scarlet mortar]

it's not that good

[steep coral]

does hellagur is good?

[scarlet mortar]

awaken's in path of mobs half the time

also DR

typhon only gets use out of her heavy bonus, not much def piercing going on

[tidal sedge]

I can't remember anything about Awaken besides the teleporting and global damage tbh

[scarlet mortar]

the tp'ing is secondary, both DV-8 and EX-8 awaken stay in one half of the map relatively long enough

like you never had issue dropkicking birbphisto

same thing

[steep coral]

since i dont have mudrock

[green gazelle]

Need help any tips?

[scarlet mortar]

tp'ing, global damage (divided by deployed count), DR when there's goo

that's all three

its basic attacks are horizontal p1 and all cardinal directions p2

they actually kinda hurt tbh

[tidal sedge]

Goo management. Hm.

[scarlet mortar]

who cares mlynar sweep

even SA managed back then

goo management in DV is killing everything except for the thicc goo which you might have to leak

but if you leave the mechs at 1hp and leak the thicc goo into them that also becomes trivial

[green gazelle]

But I need to clear this to get my limit to 1800

[scarlet mortar]

ah yh awaken wakes up (badumtss) all the mechs going into p2

so you can only leak goo in p1

[green gazelle]

Do the soul thingy not count on the kill I need to clear this?

[scarlet mortar]

uhhh we're talking abt the upcoming event

not your anni sorry

[green gazelle]

Opps my bad sorry

[peak cloak]

lets me fix deployments

@green gazelle how often your penance die?

from your screenshot

also, pls dont use gg s3 ,use s2 instead

[green gazelle]

About 2 times at coura place and 1 time on top when myrtle died

[green gazelle]

Thank you bro

[peak cloak]

can you show me again your ops?

[green gazelle]

Is this enough or should I send my lower rarity ops?

[peak cloak]

at first, e2 Penance, doable?

[green gazelle]

No I have no mats for her I use the white ball on mylnar and it's gonna be hard to farm back plus I'm low on lmd I'm sorry

[peak cloak]

it's fine

[vital arrow]

Why is mlynar on S2

Also I wouldnt use penance if shes not E2

Shes doesnt have the bulk, or damage needed to tank either side of the map

[peak cloak]

yea, i'm thinking who can replace penance

maybe buble xd lul

[vital arrow]

She hates arts that comes from the top, and bottom side she gets eaten by the swordsman

Are they dying to the burn

Or do they need more damage

And really, a lineup with like 70% arts dps is not ideal for this map

Everyone has high res

They could borrow a chongyue

[quick pecan]

chong goes crazy on that map

[green gazelle]

Mylnar is on S3 The ss is a little bit old

[vital arrow]

Try borrowing a chongyue

And drop him on the intersection

If your typhon is leveld she can help with the map

[green gazelle]

But how about the fire how should I deal with it?

[vital arrow]

You dont

You just let it burn

You can use mulberry instead of silence if you want

But mulberry instead of honeyberry is a bit less consistent

[green gazelle]

I'm actually contemplating if I should E1 lvl 50 her or save my lmd to E2 penance while I grind mats for penance

[vital arrow]

E1 50 shoulsnt take as much as 50-80

Then again, I say 'could'
Idk how she performs in this map

[green gazelle]

But I only have 114k lmd that's why I'm thinking about it

[vital arrow]

Since she hits slow

Just try borrowing a chongyue first

[green gazelle]

Ok will try it later cause I'm gonna eat lunch for now

[peak cloak]

need to at least find out a perfect timing for s2 Mul, i bet he cant do that

the died time off skill is massive for s2 mul u know

[vital arrow]

Its pretty doable if they wanna mald

[peak cloak]

@green gazelle

XD
that's for Chongyue

use S3 Mlynar and S2 GG

personally i will replace Lappland with a guardian defender like Nearl, Saria if lack of heal

[limpid siren]

@tidal sedge

[tidal sedge]

Interesting

[limpid siren]

skill 2 wording feels a bit unclear at the moment, so probably best to wait for launch to see how she fares

or like

[tidal sedge]

Physical fragile is a new keyword now I believe?

[limpid siren]

idk if it's just her initial talent doll that doesn't attack

yea that should be the first instance

i can't remember another instance of it at least

"stealth enemies attacking the substitute will be revealed for a few seconds" feels quite limited in application

[foggy grove]

why all this new r6 need so many condition or weird one

[tidal sedge]

I misread that. Dang. That's more narrow than I'd like

[foggy grove]

[limpid siren]

it's just the difficulty of translating a tactical fps into the mechanics of a tower defence ig

[quick pecan]

doesnt s2 have invis

[limpid siren]

they're probably trying to respect the flavour

[tidal sedge]

Weird how her s1 marks stuff for later

[tropic valve]

another PHYSICAL FRAGILE op?

[foggy grove]

another?

[tropic valve]

I like that

W and Sesa

[foggy grove]

that's amp

[tidal sedge]

Their amps aren't keyworded

[tropic valve]

even better

that means they don't conflict

[limpid siren]

i wonder about the wording of "enemies that attacked"

is that like "enemies that attacked iana"?

[quick pecan]

seems like i would use her s2 over s1

[tidal sedge]

Unless they retroactively give them it at least

[sullen rover]

it doesnt look like enemies needed to attack her

[tidal sedge]

Is that her s2

[quick pecan]

so it’s not shelter

it’s invis??

[limpid siren]

they grandfathered saria and skyfire in as generic arts amp

[limpid siren]

that's just the first part of s2

looks like an expanded doll range though

[tidal sedge]

If the reveal doesn't last more than 15 seconds, not much reason to use her over Ely

[quick pecan]

well she’s not def shredding or inflicting move spd reduction

so have to see if the skill has anything else that’s worthwhile

[tidal sedge]

Unless you need both reveal + bait

[remote perch]

Atleast she have fragile, so that's something

[limpid siren]

just gonna need to wait for numbers again

[scarlet mortar]

looks like a thematic op, i doubt she was made with great utility in mind

the funny option basically

tbf though she's at least durable if you want to pit an unstealth option close to a ranged stealthed mob

S2 also gives herself stealth

[limpid siren]

tl i got said shelter, not camo/invis

guess i'll have to wait until launch to see if it's invis or shelter lol

i've seen a couple at this point and they say different things

[civic bear]

if they lower the doll timer

and make her skill kinda fast cycle

it would make the kit a lot of sense

its like merchant style

[turbid badge]

iana eat

[civic bear]

where you'd go regularly off on subs

[limpid siren]

yea i'm hoping she has a modified timer for her doll

but so far the more i talk about it with people, the less clear things get

so just gonna wait again

[peak cloak]

@stiff wedge show your ops

[stiff wedge]

Here
Haven't build Ethan
And all my 6 stars have level 7 skill

As of now I can't Raise typhoon for I used all my LMD for Penance

[vital arrow]

you used

e0 chestnut

[stiff wedge]

Oh so his enough?

[peak cloak]

interesting

[vital arrow]

of course not

[stiff wedge]

Do I need to E1 him ?

[vital arrow]

if you put them in a squad to use them

E1 is mandatory

[stiff wedge]

Okay
So just try Chongyue and healers ?

[vital arrow]

just try chongyue

and raise chestnut if you use him

[peak cloak]

level up your penance to like 30-40

[stiff wedge]

Okay well I'm just one chip away with him

[peak cloak]

if possible 60

[vital arrow]

I'm having an aneurysm

[stiff wedge]

Okay
I could do it although I don't have Enough LMD I'll need to wait a few days

Well I'll try

[vital arrow]

do you really have 0 LMD

[stiff wedge]

Just 10k or above
Causes I literally spent all to raise 6 stars

[vital arrow]

cleared the event shop?

at these times I wish arknights has level adjustment

[versed arrow]

time to clear IS milestones for lmd then

[old arch]

Hello everyone. Quick question. Sorry if... er, it's not the best.

So Anni3. I know the bottom lane is S2 Shaw.

That leaves 3 open lanes. I have a variety of operators to choose from (not that many in all honesty), so I'd like to ask for everyone's input on like.. which 3.

But I have like maybe 6 so.

Uh... assume they're all E2, S7, level 70 btw.

Cuora, Gummy, Siege, Courier, Estelle, Astesia, Matterhorn.

Lol.

Well, maybe more than 3, because I'll need to swap maybe for aggro management?

Maybe it's a bad question which is valid because I'm not giving you all the other ops, which I could. But idk if I need to. 🤔

[versed arrow]

the reason bot lane is shaw is cause it is the easiest option for most ppl when they progressed to anni3, if you have better options you can used those too. If your ops are all e2, it doesnt matter much they pretty much works. gummy coura matterhorn(even tho he is not that great). If you have other options like blaze or gavialter too you can use them too, they dont have to be defenders

[old arch]

Oh okay!

Um. Hm. I am thinking of deploying Siege on top (probs).

Would S2 work or.

Would I need S1.

I probably won't bring Courier.

[versed arrow]

if siege is only vg, prob s1 since you need the dp. s2 is not that great at that. you can switch her out later if she cant hold.

[old arch]

Okay thank you very much!

[old arch]

Okay wow nvm.

Anni3's like surprisingly easy.

[green gazelle]

Can you guys help me with ashy marsh with my updated team

[peak cloak]

pog

[peak cloak]

@green gazelle have you tried it at least?

[green gazelle]

Yeah my gg and typhon just always die on the fire then if I borrow eyja alter I just lack damage

[peak cloak]

@green gazelle can you play game while stream on discord? i would handhold you if u need that

[green gazelle]

With the team I send or should I swap other ops?

[peak cloak]

try with your team first

borroq eyjaberry

borrow

send me a message when you start streaming, i dont have mic with me so i will type

[green gazelle]

I have no sanity let me clear a level to recharge my sanity

[green gazelle]

Where should I stream?

Im on mobile

[peak cloak]

do you have a strong phone first? cuz the stream + game surely are too much for a weak - medium performance phone

if potato device then just keep sending screenshots

[green gazelle]

Not sure tbh I can go 300+ not lagging but when the boss came and an onslaught of enemy came My phone just lagged a little

[peak cloak]

eh, pls dont stream then

send me screenshot when:
100
200
300
320
350
360
370
380

u know what i mean?

why bnuy me xd

[green gazelle]

Let me try streaming it first cause my phone is bugging when I'm sending a pic on discord with a floating window

[peak cloak]

okay

come to the end of eart

earth

yea i can see the stream

pay a bit attention to this channel when 250 comes

lag now? XD

@green gazelle hold up, i just wrote u that use gg s2 cuz u will need her to handle left lane

@green gazelle pause game a bit

from 300 u will start dealing with hard waves at around 310

and Mlynar skill will be your last chance here

so use it wisely

retreat yato and replace with lappland

bro cooked it

no way

good job bud

next round is boss and u are almost done

keep going

XD

gg wp