strategy

[latent monolith]

[civic bear]

Reed was a bit op there

[vivid rain]

Mlynar dp cost goes too hard

[full finch]

[latent monolith]

CY too

[full finch]

not seeing one for shipyard

[civic bear]

Go to sniper

[scarlet mortar]

ancool also has one there

[full finch]

oh ye classknights exists

i forgor

[civic bear]

The sniper is cooler so

[vivid rain]

Isnt dorothy + mumu just marksman x3

[full finch]

shu gaming in hangar

[scarlet mortar]

broken

[civic bear]

I actually got that clear too

The dv anni right

I did skalter cy mlynar zuole

[full finch]

wtf

as expected, chongyue claps ashy marsh

[latent monolith]

Shu good

Zuole also good

[civic bear]

There was shu blem chongyue

[latent monolith]

Me hapi

[civic bear]

Which was like my 3 op leak 1

Saria blem chongyue should be able to clear with new module

[full finch]

I've been trying to do 4op chongyue-less all night

[civic bear]

But

[full finch]

closest I got was gav3 saria1 flameshadow2 muelsyse2

died at like 370

[vernal lion]

no Ifrit. die

[shell arch]

Weird question

But

Is ifrit worth deploying on ch12?

Wait what's the chapter with dp cap again

[vernal lion]

20 dp

[tidal sedge]

That'd be ch 12

High cost ops aren't unusable but you can't ramp into them asap

[civic bear]

Can be. Just not redeployed

[vernal lion]

chap 12 and HE are kinda heavy on DP mechanism

[shell arch]

Exactly my question. Is ifrit worth the wait?

[tidal sedge]

On some maps maybe

[shell arch]

Like everything in the stage are gated with either time or dp so i was wondering

[vivid rain]

Well if you can utilize her range well?

[vernal lion]

1 civi = +2 dp cap, some will give 5 too iirc
box always gives +5 dp cap when destroyed

the civi with blue symbol is +2, green symbol is +5

[shell arch]

What I was essentially asking is, if gaining dp is complicated like dp cap system in ch12, would ifrit with her 33 cost worth the dp?

[vernal lion]

ofc no

[shell arch]

Yeah i think I'm asking a dumb question since mwynaw with 12 dp cost exists

[scarlet mortar]

you can basically just live with the cheaper options

ifrit is way too much for a debuffer main

at that rate there's pram lmao

[tidal sedge]

12-20 has some possibly decent Ifrit spots, but I'm not seeing any particularly great ones on other maps

[limpid siren]

[vernal lion]

chap 12 is kinda rushed on how to open the stage,
you would like to use someone that is good for chap 12 mechanism

for chap 13, tbh it's not really hard

[tidal sedge]

I don't recall feeling rushed much in ch 12 tbh

[scarlet mortar]

it's semi-constant waves

either way you want blockers down early and then dps

[tidal sedge]

Well, a little bit, but I'm a 1 vg sort of person

Most people use 2 which should make that whatever

[vernal lion]

it's not rush, but for overall, the stage is well designed

[scarlet mortar]

for roles that aren't dps, healing or defense you'd very much rather keep options cheap

[vernal lion]

at least you won't suffer with the enemy reviving tower of chap 13

[shell arch]

Enemy WHAT tower?

[scarlet mortar]

there's ig also how the spy mechanic keeps the enemy density low

[shell arch]

[vernal lion]

revive

[scarlet mortar]

so ifrit doesn't have enough targets to be worth

[vernal lion]

the spy mechanic is sneaky

it eats your block

[scarlet mortar]

her best shot was H12-3 sarkazknights or sth

[shell arch]

"bro gramophones in ToW were so good, it made people diagnosed with ptsd. Let's make a gramophones that REVIVES the enemies instead"

[vernal lion]

or, may not if there's the one who doesn't let your op block them

[tidal sedge]

It's basically sideways invis most times

Which was actually funny to exploit at times for mystic usage

[scarlet mortar]

i can't believe mystics aren't a dogshit archetype

[vernal lion]

imagine can't collect all the dp cap of h12-3

[glass monolith]

Ready for enemy count to be 400/14?

[scarlet mortar]

slug gaming

[vernal lion]

I was making fun with the map btw

[shell arch]

Wtf

[shell arch]

What is that and why does it feel intimidating

[vernal lion]

I bet if you don't rush the bomb before the bottom lane is overwhelmed with infinite reviving enemy, you will lose soon

[glass monolith]

Ranged tiles looks like damn roadblocks

[vivid rain]

Kinda remind me of that one event where enemy could clime into ranged tile

[civic bear]

Ifrit on 2 with warf actually goes hard on damazti

[scarlet mortar]

joever

[void terrace]

Wait does 50% trust only apply to event stages?

I never really figured that one out

[vernal lion]

any stage that cost sanity tho

[wicked viper]

prob excluding sidestory and intermezzi tho

since those stages do not drop event currency

[glass monolith]

People cope stage sanity while my main base assistant outscale all that cringe

[civic bear]

cant reach 100 trust in a day with base so

[void terrace]

Nice

[spring chasm]

I don't know anything about gramophones. What exactly is the range where the exploding shaman takes control?

[flint falcon]

can u scan ch12 civs faster by overlapping op's range

[latent monolith]

1.5 tile radius

[wicked viper]

valarqvin is recruitable in IS3 lol

[latent monolith]

So IS4 is here

meanwhile me not having completed either IS

[tidal sedge]

I was just about to ask about that as I just saw a similar image on Twitter

Hmm.

Would the fastest to check be to spam First Class team?

Er, get her I mean

[glass monolith]

I remember when they predownloaded Goldenglow and (who was 5* lmao i forgot) were in IS 2 before release

[tidal sedge]

Quercus was GG banner 5*

[glass monolith]

I forgot best single target medic when enemy does "your max hp + 1" damage

(Like srly, i used Quercus talent to make Mlynar survive H12-4 4 clone ranged attack on 0 DEF )

[foggy grove]

mine is like lv 90

he survive with ng solo healing

and 3 use of cage on the rough parts

[vernal lion]

me, when I find out Chalter's best spot

[tropic valve]

you still have a week

jk you still have infinite time

although realistically you probably won't be playing IS2 or IS3 as much after IS4 drops

[latent monolith]

I mean I'm in an IS2 run right now since I wanted more lmd to level typhon

so yeah not going to finish anytime soon

[deft badger]

when is even is4 coming out?

[surreal lily]

Is IS2/3 really permanent? Because I don’t see IS1

[latent monolith]

IS1 was an event

IS2 onwards are permanent

[surreal lily]

I see

[scarlet mortar]

IS1 was the test version basically

[latent monolith]

Soon

[latent monolith]

^

[scarlet mortar]

half of its stages got lifted over to IS2 anw

[latent monolith]

maybe even the first event after typhon too

since they do have her added

[vernal lion]

minimalist actually killed the drone tho

[glass monolith]

I love this community from doing random shit like making this Drone punching bug of event

[stray zinc]

Who to E2?

[vernal lion]

Typhon ofc

[stray zinc]

Form that list who should i just leave it E1 or not build

[glass monolith]

Well Typhon is only e0, so will save on 90 sanity of e0 chips

[vernal lion]

least annoying cm

[jovial nest]

LMAO, the CM actually makes for a better starting spot for me

it's easier to defend in this spot

although yeah i do lose the enemies rotating around the 2nd lane

[astral pilot]

im having trouble against the two golems

the stage with a bunch or relics

i dont know the mechanics behind that

[foggy grove]

it's bascially playing control of gramaphone

[glass monolith]

Tower being captured if you stand on adjusted tile (Has this thunder icon on tiles)
Whoever controls tower get free heals, and tower attack highest HP target for max HP % damage

[astral pilot]

its FD6 for the map

[glass monolith]

Enemies to care about - Bleeding explosion dude - He instantly capture tower if hit it with explosion
Caster dude who channel tower, 1 is nothing to worry about, 2 will most likely capture it from you.
Deadeye focus for lower DEF can assist in sniping those channel casters

[astral pilot]

i managed to kill one

[foggy grove]

it's 5% max hp arts dmg so you can use it for golem

[astral pilot]

do i need to deploy and redeploy?

[glass monolith]

Golems will die super fast if you have both towers on that side

[astral pilot]

gravel gaming in other words

[glass monolith]

Meebo gaming

[rigid jacinth]

does typhon's first talent stack individually for each target or an equal stat for all targets at any given time

[glass monolith]

From wording of it SHE gains def ignore as long as she attacks

[astral pilot]

then what should i do when enemy casters attempts to convert them?

1. deploy ranged op to kill it then retreat?
2. wait for it to charge or something then recapture

[rigid jacinth]

[scarlet mortar]

snipe caster mfs, stall exploding mfs

[glass monolith]

Well if you have enough stuff around tower you will capture it faster that caster, stuff like Ambriel can just snipe casters. I was more worrying of explosion dude because capturing 1 tower is quick, capturing 2 back is bruh

[astral pilot]

good thing my ambriel is built at least

[scarlet mortar]

you want the caster guys dead whenever possible bc the towers kinda just do all the work for you

heck they heal you

keep them safe

[astral pilot]

thanks

[vernal lion]

damn I coping

(Skalter is so bright, holy)

[astral pilot]

sami operators are ones with horns like deers correct?

[scarlet mortar]

ok it'd be embarassing if that couldn't beat it but aak + lee can beat NM

[glass monolith]

And i was thinking chasing boss around with S2 Lee was cringe

Btw... HOW LONG ICE CREAM CART WAITS ON TOP LEFT TOWER?

I literally killed boss by time it still didn't move

[jovial nest]

ok yeah the FD-7 CM is more challenging. Specifically on how you crawl the light before you wake up the sleeping knights

[sly pivot]

fraud...

[glass monolith]

God dammit AP-5 is closed when i am in mood to update auto to replace "probably hit 200% 3 weeks ago" operators

[jovial nest]

is AP the red tix?

[surreal lily]

Crawl top right then bottom

[jovial nest]

good. Andoain ain't as problematic as TFN's

[surreal lily]

I was dying the way you do it

[jovial nest]

that reminds me

TFN uses Andoian way too much

[vernal lion]

tbh this shit isn't hard but 20% buff from cm does matter tho

[surreal lily]

Angelina and Typhon make it easy

[jovial nest]

yeah my solution was too tight and very specific to my squad. Hell, my squad still uses some trust ops

HG, can you stop making this Ando's CM ALWAYS?!

[glass monolith]

I have only 8 sub 100 trust operators

[jovial nest]

I have 4 sub 200 trust

[spark sinew]

trust farming mini event though...

can't be bothered

[scarlet mortar]

mods centrifuge his spheroids

[compact shoal]

Does fd-7 not worth? it seems its tiny bit better in efficiency and faster estimated drop as well, need some oriron amd planned to farm it

[jovial nest]

unless you really need some Orirons, just farm something else

like 1-7, chips, red certs

[spark sinew]

honestly didn't check, the info people give conflicts (and i would rather stockpile red certs/chips/rocks)
mini events never were worth farming in AK before though, at most they were around the same eff as the story

[compact shoal]

I see

[compact shoal]

Yeah gonna farm red cert for now till i can get the last 2 module block in red cert shop

[vernal lion]

I just farm skill book, red cert, and chip
it will never be enough

[spark sinew]

then farm for 4 more

anyone has clue 6

[tropic valve]

me when Andoain again

[vernal lion]

IS4 is in next week huh

[glass monolith]

Or we get trolled and DoS first

[spark sinew]

ehhh

can't you feel it
a certain rerun might be coming

[foggy grove]

i love nl stage to spam totter

[glass monolith]

Nah i'd delay - Yostar

[foggy grove]

[spark sinew]

we will see

[glass monolith]

If they decide to rerun rat, i have medal set which means i have full rights to red box entire event

[spark sinew]

eh just do ex8 and regular stages as always 🛌

only need to play ex8 anyway

[glass monolith]

Me who does all EX stages because i am sick bastard

[spark sinew]

wasting sanity more like

[glass monolith]

Also i enjoy seeing my auto do trolley problem instead working

[spark sinew]

oh i can have 5 of the same number in a row tomorrow

milestone! and a reminded of fucked up orundrum count that you can't fix

[tall cairn]

22222?

[spark sinew]

4

[tall cairn]

Oh cool 44444

[spark sinew]

244444

[slim stratus]

Is it just me or hypogryph REALLY like throwing Adoain in every chance they get? mf appear in 2 trial of navigator and also this event

they must know his mechanic is annoying af

[tall cairn]

hauck too rich.

[spark sinew]

be rich in one easy step

HG hates his trick!

[tall cairn]

[glass monolith]

I took 123 pulls into knee and it was worth it

[spark sinew]

I'm too traumatized from my pulling before hard pity rework

[tall cairn]

Pulled on purple ceobe banner to supply FT, real catch was stainless.

[vernal lion]

at least it's not Essence of Evolution

[spark sinew]

what's FT

[tall cairn]

[spark sinew]

oh she's coming in shop?

honestly the main problem of EoE was the usual lack of explaining of where enemies would go

like the stage is a mess lane wise

[tall cairn]

Not sure, but should be her next.

[spark sinew]

and then it also lags and constantly spams shit so gl seeing where you need to block

would suck if she comes before vivi, please delay her

imagine buying fart and then getting 0 vivi on virtuosa

in 300

[tall cairn]

Even then it’s still + 5%.

[glass monolith]

Who would win:
Morbius
Loud dog

[tall cairn]

[vernal lion]

look, I'm that 12,9%

[spark sinew]

well it's clunky ish to use in 252

[tall cairn]

Just one Flametail shift right.

Should prolly split the trio.

[spark sinew]

even disregarding the fact that using 180 certs + e2ing for 5%...

yeah even if you split them i think you would have enough workers without the Fart

so she would only be used when it's sub and when it subs scene

not when it subs feater conviction

[tall cairn]

You’d sub feater conviction and then Mizuki Highmore the lvl 3 exp fac?

[spark sinew]

scene will work there

yeah rotations are a mess...

[tall cairn]

[tall cairn]

Better than Jessalt at least, with possibility of growth.

[jovial nest]

need moar trust

[spark sinew]

skip both

[glass monolith]

You wait Jessalter for Jessalter, I wait Jessalter to Quartz her boss

[spark sinew]

shining skalter and just use anyone else

they will be 0 base def anyway

[glass monolith]

nah i'd facetank

[jovial nest]

I wait for Jessalter to hear his boss' banger music

[spark sinew]

the boss is funny
like they realized you could potentially 3 frd block it forever and added a dash

[jovial nest]

or Typhon 2 ops it

[spark sinew]

like, fuck you, you're not gonna body block this boss

[glass monolith]

I'm pretty sure boss dashes only if he land kill

[vernal lion]

yea

[glass monolith]

Not like that will be issue for him

Meanwhile i am coping because i will need to learn path of status resist for him

[spark sinew]

yes, and he will kill frail shit you would block him with, usually

[vernal lion]

helidrop dollkeeper to stall him

[spark sinew]

he gonna kill dollkeeper isn't he

and then dash

[vernal lion]

he needs to kill the doll too, means make them retreat to dash tho

[spark sinew]

oh he doesn't get dash from just killing the og?

[vernal lion]

so dollkeeper and tactician can stall him

[spark sinew]

wouldve been a good info a day ago
doesn't make sense tho, are you sure?

[vernal lion]

if he kill your unit and also "make them leave the map", then he will dash

I remember someone has tested that

[halcyon adder]

https://youtu.be/6N9dp3MLjHQ?si=D7pq5ZiZ8p7WOXGj

Bruh what is this unit made of

[jovial nest]

a good solution to some maps

[glass monolith]

Boy is too anime protag to die

[jovial nest]

ah the glory of Ling's 2nd skin

[foggy grove]

he is made of cracked sp

and refuse to die

[jovial nest]

it's only as good as how much hits they feed him

in that case, it's the perfect amount of feeding and killing

[foggy grove]

it's okay he can slit his wrist with s2 on non hard hitting lane

s3 on hard hitting one

[vernal lion]

that is like ~70 hits

[latent halo]

[jovial nest]

wow, i don't see that much detail when I'm playing that map myself

but there's a lot of cool design to the map theme

[weak gazelle]

so far its just so-so map
guess will do 7 & 8 for later

[sly pivot]

spite

i cant think of an enemy that can kill this mf except patriot p1

[jovial nest]

"a lot to prove since he keeps getting his ass kicked in story"

[foggy grove]

made from all the other musha blood and tears

[sly pivot]

he tanks literally every boss made in arknights

except patriot p1

🧎‍♂️

[vernal lion]

devour enemy

[jovial nest]

damn, he can tank SK?

not bad

[sly pivot]

he facetanks him

sk is such a joke

zuo le permastalls

[sly pivot]

dw degen gets eaten

and zuo le kills

🫡

[vernal lion]

real

[sly pivot]

yes thats the strat

[jovial nest]

wait, Zuo can stall against bosses with long invul times too?

[sly pivot]

his s3

[jovial nest]

also he can kill Degen before she dashes through?

[sly pivot]

idk abt killing

but he wont die

[jovial nest]

....

[civic bear]

if long invul u spam s2

[sly pivot]

oh yea s3 doesnt make shield if it hits nothing

[civic bear]

zuo s2 can perma stall 1 damazti iirc

[sly pivot]

my expectations are dead

🧎‍♂️

[civic bear]

h12-4 even

[jovial nest]

wow impressive

[sly pivot]

damn

is patriot p1 the only thing he doesnt tank

i cant think of any other boss

[civic bear]

p much

think so

[sly pivot]

i thought i was missing someone

😔

[jovial nest]

so I'm guessing he can tank Mudrock Colossi?

[sly pivot]

he eats manfred and cannon

the golem is nothing

[civic bear]

u just stun them

take 1 hit

[jovial nest]

do Mushas like him have that much HP to tank artillery?

[civic bear]

stun the other

[sly pivot]

he also eats full powered up mudrock

[civic bear]

4.2k hp or smth

[sly pivot]

they have 4k hp

[civic bear]

so ofc

[sly pivot]

zuo le solos tw ex 8 top lane

the lane has shamans golem and mudrock

🥹

this isnt fair

[civic bear]

his problem is just the damage isnt mlynar/exe tier

[sly pivot]

yea p sad...

[civic bear]

but it'd be a problem if he does

[foggy grove]

[sly pivot]

insane bruteforce operator

[jovial nest]

I'm not too fond of Mushas or enmities.

makes healing them a bit too strict in choice

[sly pivot]

zuo le hates getting healed

he wants to be at 25% always

[jovial nest]

either way, I would've considered him if it weren't for Hoederer

[sly pivot]

or below 50

[vernal lion]

zuo le is the definition of hp control

[jovial nest]

risk reward type of players

[vernal lion]

higher than 30 and lower than 75

[sly pivot]

nah bro theres zero risk

😭😭😭😭

[foggy grove]

shelter and barrier make it reaaly safe

[sly pivot]

u just plop him on an enemy and he stalls it to death

[foggy grove]

[civic bear]

the risk is nonexistent

unless we're talking like d15 or highrisk

[jovial nest]

i mean

[sly pivot]

bro cc relic + s3 is kinda crazy

[civic bear]

but nobody plays that

[jovial nest]

i doubt he'd do well against the well known enemies that can stun ops

[civic bear]

i mean

stun them

and then come back unstunned

[jovial nest]

does he do well against those Red Punch Mechs in DV?

one of the most favorite enemies of all AK players

[vernal lion]

no lol

[civic bear]

well he can kill them

[vernal lion]

the problem is how to make him survive the 2k atk punch

[jovial nest]

there will always be enemies that i hate a lot. And it just so happens most of them do stun

like

FTT has both invul and stun

[sly pivot]

luckily he isnt a blanket solution to everything

[jovial nest]

good thing it has some cooldown

[sly pivot]

nah he murders ftt in cold blood

[jovial nest]

unless it's CC9

[sly pivot]

well it leaks

zzz

just use anti stun op

like lee

😈

[jovial nest]

if he wasn't enmity, our 6* therapist could've helped with S3

[civic bear]

if he wasnt enmity he wouldnt have sp talent

[sly pivot]

enmity is bad..m

u cant heal...

[vernal lion]

imagine male dollkeeper

[civic bear]

that already exist

[sly pivot]

u dont need to imagine

[vernal lion]

but that 4 star is sucked

[sly pivot]

verdant will be relevant for that

arts boss

🥹

pseudo ng cage

[vernal lion]

wait for your Harold boss with male only clear

[sly pivot]

idk what harold does

but he seems like a fraud

[jovial nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1197796592837726309/Harold_boss.gif?ex=65eab681&is=65d84181&hm=de1b5fe821f4fddc0a96099ebb0ad451e344d0b9f739a7025dba2ce22204805c&

can a fraud...do this?!

Harold trying to pull off a Patriot 2.0

[sly pivot]

bro switched sides after i whooped his ass in 4k

[glass monolith]

You can't be Smurf in snow fight.
Harold:

[jovial nest]

and is not doing as insane of a job as when he was an enemy

he be trolling you

[sly pivot]

okay i watched some clears this dude is an actual fraud

zzz

[vernal lion]

Harold is like EB 2.0, but creepier

[jovial nest]

well, make your judgment once you fight his EX version

[sly pivot]

yea the ex version got 3 opd

[jovial nest]

he ain't exactly a pushover

[sly pivot]

🥱

and one of the ops is lumen

actual joke

[jovial nest]

wow you not gonna mention the other 2?

[glass monolith]

I just need to not fuck up healthgate or die. Which means I will lose 120 sanity on CM

[sly pivot]

mlynar and exalter

like always

if lumen is here the clear is a joke

[jovial nest]

i mean was he really?

Lumen ain't exactly trash

he be healing dat Mlynar taunt

[sly pivot]

sorry guards also 3 opd

zzz

[jovial nest]

care to tell

[sly pivot]

this is absolute ass

ntrk degen exalter

[jovial nest]

also what a hilarious way to gauge how strong an enemy is

by not doing it yourself first

[sly pivot]

bro if it gets 3 opd i can tell it isnt that strong

[jovial nest]

dude

Talulah was 3 ops'd

[sly pivot]

yea

and?

talulah is a fraud too

talulah does jackshit

[jovial nest]

and how about Damazti

[sly pivot]

thats the real problem

damazti is stronger

[jovial nest]

wow....just because he can make numbers of himself, it can no longer be 3 ops'd

[sly pivot]

because of the conditions he force ur team

[jovial nest]

how....linear of a measurement of difficulty

[sly pivot]

well duh

if i need to bring certain ops to just deal with this asshat i would call him hard

im dedicating slots just to deal with him

instead of the other two where i can compress roles to deal with boss + waves

[jovial nest]

I prefer to measure difficulty based on my own way of solving.

instead of looking at what others did

[sly pivot]

damn ure dumb then sorry

🤣

[jovial nest]

and you look at guides before you enjoy content

in my eyes, you're dumb in a different way

[sly pivot]

harold having a 3 hr walk cycle isnt my fault

[jovial nest]

good job learning that through a video

btw I'm not even judging him in my own measurement

just the initial impression he gave the first go around to #cn-lounge players

so I'm gonna have to wait

[sly pivot]

cn lounge players are the smartest players i know...

its ture...

[jovial nest]

you really think I listen to all of them?

[sly pivot]

also initial impression is usually bad

cause u dont know what he does

[jovial nest]

Mostly i only listen to UnclePtilo

wow it's like learning about him is a process. but i guess some people prefer to shortcut that part

I'm willing to burn practice plans for that

[sly pivot]

u said he wasnt a pushover and i checked

and im disappointed

[jovial nest]

you do know what a pushover boss is, right?

[sly pivot]

yea someone that gets solod by zuo le

[jovial nest]

cause it seems you only measure by optimized solutions already

and by that point....you just copy others and enjoy said copying?

[civic bear]

if you dont use

the event mechanic

the boss is a threat

but once you learn to use the fire thing

it really is free

[jovial nest]

most of the challenge from some of the #cn-lounge is their inability to read the language.

it's hilarious

like i remember someone in #cn-lounge really having difficulty in SL

cause they have no idea how the gimmick plays

UnclePtilo btw can read chinese.

[sly pivot]

dawg trying to guilt trip me for looking at optimised solutions 🤣

zzz

[jovial nest]

I'm just telling you how i have fun

[sly pivot]

i dont care tho?

no one asked about how u have fun

[jovial nest]

I just hope you try to do it yourself first

cause it's a different way to enjoy it

[sly pivot]

i just said the boss looks whatever and u got butthurt abt how u enjoy the game

i couldnt care less

i just refuted what u said

[jovial nest]

so why are you responding to me this much if you don't care?

i do care about trying to share a nice blind clear

but you certainly dont and yet reply

[sly pivot]

but then u went on a tangent abt gauging a boss strength

to which im interested in?

[jovial nest]

it's not exactly the first clear that i do gauge. It's usually the 2nd time around

although based on some ops' release

difficulty will be vary so much

[sly pivot]

nawrr dawg just admit harolds whatever 😭

and say i didnt do my research

couldve saved u alot of words

[jovial nest]

i'll admit it once i play his boss fight myself

if anything, i just find your way of solving things...kind of pissing me off a bit

but eh

to each their own

[civic bear]

tf is this discussion even on about.

[sly pivot]

beats me

🤷‍♂️

[jovial nest]

its simple really

he solves stuff by searching the most optimal guides

and it pisses me off a bit

since there's fun in blind clears

what he makes of it, i don't mind what he does next

[opal kiln]

low op clears are not guides

💀

[jovial nest]

for him it is

[civic bear]

ok i mean sure blind clears

[sly pivot]

damn im just that good?

[civic bear]

but theres also playing as map intended

that is learning the mechanics

[sly pivot]

actually making me blush

[jovial nest]

don't bother. They just want to solve everything based on how someone else did it

[minor solar]

if a boss makes me properly use the mechanics then they're good

[civic bear]

and some event are absolutely simple in mechanics . or complex

[minor solar]

if it's more practical to ignore them and shoot them

then they're bad

[jovial nest]

wow a DE player

nice

[civic bear]

you can do that on this boss tho

[surreal lily]

Me: ok put Surtr here, hope it works

[minor solar]

u sorta can't

unless u call

stalling for 10 min so frost winds stop

ignoring mechanics

like u can ignore the AC's and ur still gonna deal with frost

that's the mechanic

[sly pivot]

6*s are broken bro

[minor solar]

mind u it's a trash mechanic

[jovial nest]

ah yes i do love that Hool is broken

same with Vigil

[sly pivot]

degen and ntr just drops in and murks his ass

[civic bear]

sir have you seen

specialist clear of this map

where u just helidrop

[jovial nest]

i mean

[minor solar]

why would I

[jovial nest]

if i think low ops

[minor solar]

that's the 4* strat too

[jovial nest]

i always think it has the 2 FRD goddesses

[minor solar]

i don't wanna watch the same thing twice bro

[sly pivot]

real...

[minor solar]

I have a soft spot for the boss since I used him as an excuse to not play poo

[jovial nest]

POO has its fun stuff. Like the dailies are a great alteration of risks

superrisks and superbuffs

makes for quite the unique experience for a CC-style

[sly pivot]

my excuse for not playing poo is that i rather watch utube shorts

🫡

[jovial nest]

i mean, the solution to poo ain't gonna last you even minutes anyway

unless you really want that stupid max risk

which is....it's your taste

i guess those who only want to do the 300/600 bare minimum for rewards will have stall tactic annoyances if they don't have the pieces for something more offensive

[minor solar]

that map is terrible irrespective of the immortal cumtanks

[jovial nest]

I've fought worse CCs than the max rewards of POO

[sly pivot]

single lane with not much depth

is crazy

[minor solar]

that's like saying this 4 week old pizza is edible cause it's not shit from the toilet

[jovial nest]

yeah and the thing is, POO ain't the shit

[surreal lily]

Poo is shit

It’s another word for it

[vernal lion]

you know the hardest cc is when the map itself has environment effect,
like the fucking sandstorm

[surreal lily]

[jovial nest]

ah there we go

Naga bringing some sense

i hate CC6

[minor solar]

hate it too

[jovial nest]

fucking artificial time limit

[minor solar]

was one of the better cc maps tho

[jovial nest]

better CC maps to watch in max risk for sure

since you can't perma stall it

[minor solar]

many ways to approach it and i especially enjoyed the risks where u change wind direction

[jovial nest]

but to play it....to each their own

[civic bear]

wind direction

the wind damage increase

[minor solar]

only problem was

wraiths

with dodge

[civic bear]

yeah

[minor solar]

fuck that enemy

[civic bear]

remove the dodge and it'd be good

[jovial nest]

the wind direction alone made some of its dailies really different from one another. Makes for some compellin differing solutions

but i still hate the map in general

no matter how many solutions you can do with it

oh yeah the ghost enemies

the very reason that map was really annoying

[civic bear]

not that it ever beat cc5

[jovial nest]

ok so how are you guys perceiving the UT CC

haha oh yeah

MN CC

thats a can of worms that most people prefer not to remember

3 lanes

all pain

[minor solar]

best cc map they ever made

and probably will ever make

[jovial nest]

its because MN elites were bullshit

[cosmic dagger]

cc5 is the goat

[vernal lion]

yea I like that map too

[jovial nest]

and MN boss too

[minor solar]

i just tend to enjoy maps where u fight all over the place

[jovial nest]

Shield Snipers, Bladehelm, and the Twin Knights

[minor solar]

instead of camping 1 lane for 3 minutes

[sly pivot]

bro cancelling bladehelm atkdebuff was the shit

🚬

[jovial nest]

so you like fighting Damazti huh

jk

nah

[sly pivot]

and handling crablane

[minor solar]

kind of obvious no

[jovial nest]

Damazti was a different kind of fun, yes

but the solution devolved to saturating him with AoE.

[sly pivot]

bladehelm is peak elite tbh

[jovial nest]

my usual solution

[vernal lion]

I don't hate Damazti, I just hate the hyper buff they bring in H stage

[sly pivot]

just neuters a dps

[minor solar]

to be fair

they're not worth being considered a boss without it

[vernal lion]

yea

[jovial nest]

CC1 had Ball Drones and Evocators. And I'm surprised people aren't toxic about it. I guess they didn't make it too toxic?

[civic bear]

damazti without the 80% corrosion is a joke

[sly pivot]

tfw ur op gets nuked into oblivion

[minor solar]

if cuora lives more than 90 seconds damazti needs more atk

[sly pivot]

ill get around to h12-4 one day

😔

[jovial nest]

i remember trying to stall Damazti phase 1

[civic bear]

arent u close sir

[jovial nest]

and it lead to Mudrock having her DEF take a shit

[sly pivot]

its close but icba

[civic bear]

smh go faster zuole is out already

[sly pivot]

so i just said ill do it later

andi never get around to it

[jovial nest]

oh cmon just watch a low ops

[sly pivot]

i did

🤨

[jovial nest]

now dew it

[sly pivot]

i just cba

map is whatever

wished they spammed more bozos

like the hammer dudes

would be funnier

[minor solar]

idk

[jovial nest]

btw they might not be considered elites

[minor solar]

ch12 enemies are all trash anyway

[sly pivot]

yea

[jovial nest]

but i hate a normal enemy a LOT now

[sly pivot]

im surprised that they just evaporate

[jovial nest]

no its not just the ch11 dogs

[sly pivot]

i think the spies are the only cool enemies

[jovial nest]

it's also SL's skateboard cone bombo

[civic bear]

theres the big guy 3 block but that guy is sponge

[minor solar]

i like the mechanic on a blind playthrough

[jovial nest]

my favorite ch12 enemy

[sly pivot]

they didnt have those

[jovial nest]

really made me appreciate Reedic

[sly pivot]

defender spies

zzz

im p sure they exist

🤨

[minor solar]

yeah

12-20 cm has them

[sly pivot]

they appear like once

yea

damn idk

i only like the spies

[minor solar]

i think h12-4 is pretty good on it's own

[jovial nest]

The strongest normal enemy...maybe after ch11 dogs

[minor solar]

making u fight the boss twice in H stages before that is fucking troll tho

should have explored the spy mechanic more

[sly pivot]

h12-3 🚮

why is h12-1 stronger...

🥹

[minor solar]

would have enjoyed ranged spies that u don't wanna reveal early

[sly pivot]

idk if it is

i felt like h12-1 was harder

[minor solar]

so u take less dmg from them

etc.

[jovial nest]

different players will consider things more difficult than others

[sly pivot]

dawg no one cares shut up

[jovial nest]

its really just based on learning and squad

[sly pivot]

💀

[minor solar]

i sorta spend longer on it

[sly pivot]

im trying to see if my experienes line up w others

[minor solar]

but that's cause i'm stupid

and took too long to think of bubble/cuora

kept thinking i needed more dps for some reason

[sly pivot]

yea maybe i need to revisit

before ch13 arrives

[jovial nest]

imagine trying to line up your difficulty after copying a low ops vs someone who did it blind first

hmmm, yeah this was kinda difficult. Chalter carried it for me though

but I had more issues with H12-3

[civic bear]

h12-1 civ is more constant while h12-3 is basicly just once at start

theres also the flag guy

[minor solar]

u outright have less dp on h12-3

[jovial nest]

i mean at least you know in H12-3, every civ rush was a normal folk

[minor solar]

even if u catch every civ

cap is 50

[jovial nest]

you can sacc them to blue box once you have enough

[minor solar]

cap on h12-1 was

idk

more than 50

[civic bear]

yeah ofc

cuz h12-1 has box too

[sly pivot]

hmm maybe its the rebel leaders

[jovial nest]

it's Damazti that was the annoyance

in H12-3 for me

[sly pivot]

rebel leaders are goated

[jovial nest]

to the point that i had it easier in H12-4 for some weird reason

[sly pivot]

unblocks all ur civs

[civic bear]

flag guy in h12-1 is p annoying

[sly pivot]

🥹

[minor solar]

🐙

[civic bear]

i think h12-3 is more blind friendly

well sir

[minor solar]

just wastes tentacles for me

[civic bear]

[jovial nest]

oh

[civic bear]

theres 3 at once

[minor solar]

unironically more annoying for higher rarity

[civic bear]

it is

[sly pivot]

phantom mogs...

[jovial nest]

H12-1 had the guys that just popped in and BOOM! YOU'RE LEAKING

[sly pivot]

its real...

2 bodies at once

[jovial nest]

ah

bullshit h12 enemy

[sly pivot]

mody technology

[jovial nest]

[sly pivot]

i dont think phantom alone wins one

😔

[minor solar]

there's no way he can't

lol

[civic bear]

its a good thing that flag shit exist tho

[minor solar]

1 tentacle 1v1's them

[sly pivot]

sir tentacles are broken

🫡

[foggy grove]

clone will die but phantom can 1v1

[minor solar]

their taste is definetly broken

🤮 disgusting seafood

[vernal lion]

the mod really saves her

[foggy grove]

i just cheat with phantom and ntr to shut my brain

[sly pivot]

phantom mody clone kills

[foggy grove]

[sly pivot]

its real

i tested it

🫡

[scarlet mortar]

if it's the non-H AE variant he solo's

[sly pivot]

(i didnt)

[scarlet mortar]

his clone also iirc

[foggy grove]

is y the dmg mod?

[sly pivot]

whats the point if it isnt the non-h varient

[foggy grove]

it wasn't out when chap 12 hit before

[sly pivot]

damn i know i can count on the phantom abuser...

🧎‍♂️

my phantom is stuck in mcdonalds nowaday

got to work to stay alive

[scarlet mortar]

wait fug what was the stage that banned all ranged tiles

[civic bear]

12-15?

[sly pivot]

did u mody sir

do u think it deserves 12 blocks

[civic bear]

wait not 15

[scarlet mortar]

that one's highmore phantom zook trio

[civic bear]

12-14

[scarlet mortar]

for male phantom exfed

[sly pivot]

i didnt see that coming

[scarlet mortar]

phantom soloes the double lane

Xmod

Ymod doesn't cycle the clone properly iirc

[sly pivot]

i did well in not building it

[civic bear]

dp mod best mod bro

[sly pivot]

im still hoping for mod fusion where i can combine both mods into one

🧎‍♂️

[foggy grove]

so delta

[sly pivot]

(still worse than sexas)

[foggy grove]

[scarlet mortar]

ebenholz BROKEN

[sly pivot]

hes too good

[civic bear]

can we get corossion damage already

need that stainless stealth buff...

[sly pivot]

warmy waiting her turn

🥹

reedic module will give her burn dmg and warmy will be insane

[scarlet mortar]

doing it

[scarlet mortar]

absolutely not

🥹

[sly pivot]

ure a fake

im massively dissapointed

consider me a stranger to you

zzz

[scarlet mortar]

i need to build fucken

something

dw he's not been used ever since i got Ymod

so technically nobody knows it exists

Xmod >>>>> low diff but i need to act like i play the game

[sly pivot]

play the game?

🥹

[scarlet mortar]

hard to imagine ik

[sly pivot]

if only he got atkscale

on mody

🥹

[scarlet mortar]

man.

[sly pivot]

not this fraud +10% attack

[scarlet mortar]

+10% atk when i just rdp and deal more damage

no Ymod can't rdp

[minor solar]

hey did we ever get a stage with the freezing winds where they spam 80 million red weebs at us?

[sly pivot]

the last time i saw red weebs was chapter 6

[scarlet mortar]

hey khant did you know

[sly pivot]

THIS IS A GAME CHANGER

[scarlet mortar]

oh dw that's not Ymod

but it does show why Ymod is PEAK

Xmod p2 phantom leaves an operative leader at exactly 12hp after 7 hits

at that point the bozo can shoot him a third time

🥹

[jovial nest]

no. But i did share my idea of, what if TLK's boss fight had a lot of red frost weebs?

[sly pivot]

this is why u equip s1

[scarlet mortar]

real.........

[sly pivot]

and dodge all the hits

🚬

get smoked bozo...

[scarlet mortar]

insane maleknights strategem

🧎‍♂️

[sly pivot]

im always cooking

👨‍🍳

wait dont even need to dodge

the shield stops it

🥱

[scarlet mortar]

cexas couldn't do that fr

[minor solar]

u hit them and they die

last knight is a red weeb to begin with

[sly pivot]

i have to start phantom s1 masteries

🥹

worse gravel

[minor solar]

sign it's time to uninstall

and go play genshin

[sly pivot]

freedom...

phantoms tankier if he dodges more

the 6* gap is real

[vernal lion]

make me remember that coping Hella dodge video

[sly pivot]

if i can make hellagur look good ill do whatever it takes

(very close to using roberta shields)

[minor solar]

put a png of hellagur over zuo le

[sly pivot]

🥹

[jovial nest]

reminds me of all the CCbeta max risk videos

relying on his damn dodge

[long epoch]

I wonder if Zuo Le can beat CCBeta easily.

[lethal dragon]

Fd-7 is pretty efficient damn

[latent anvil]

omg it's yuu senpai

[high warren]

JT8-3 eyjalter s2 can work if no ng?

Idk never used anything except s1

[foggy grove]

e1 eyja?

[high warren]

E2

[foggy grove]

s2 is garbo

use s3 if you need burst healing

[high warren]

For that heat wave

[foggy grove]

yeah s2 does nothing there

[high warren]

Rip

[scarlet mortar]

it's an elemental barrier not a hp barrier

so it basically blocks nothing lmao

[civic bear]

just use s1 for the raw hps

her heal is just tiny bit shy away to outheal the fireballs

so her +1 heal p much outheals

or just have defender tank the hits while she heals that works too

[viscid mist]

i like operators like this

only build the necessary 👍

[spark sinew]

wtf she can't do it e2 1?

[deft badger]

[glass monolith]

Orchid tier of being filtered (Maybe i had skill issue but her damn Paradox just don't do for me on 50 trust)

[spark sinew]

oh wow, s2 lasts 6 seconds

i think sl1 is quite possible

i got fairly far on first attempt, just s2 cd was too big

[glass monolith]

I had SL7 and did e2 1 easily

[spark sinew]

how much sp does it cost

[glass monolith]

25 SP, does 280% damage

[spark sinew]

skill issue

[glass monolith]

It was enough to have Prov + Leon nuke all spiders

[spark sinew]

ohhh

i think my positioning is wrong

well it clears anyway

she is max trust but idt she matters much

[glass monolith]

I don't recall if you need 50 or 100 to unlock them

[spark sinew]

well if yours is 50 trust

clearly you need 50

i actually didn't know about trust req

[glass monolith]

Over 100 don't give you benefits directly, but everyone has her 200 from base abuse

[spark sinew]

eh base abuse takes very long

[glass monolith]

243 maxed

[spark sinew]

idt it matters

if you have shit base or not

[glass monolith]

I just sit here like "????" on people doing auto abuse for those 124 trust on annihilation

[spark sinew]

dormitory ambience only matters for base assistants i thought

[glass monolith]

[spark sinew]

man the hibiscus paradox..

[glass monolith]

Why not do both

[spark sinew]

because farming trust on proviso is kinda whatever, who would use her in battle

[glass monolith]

ASPD talent for Mlynar

[spark sinew]

mine hits hard and fast enough without it

[glass monolith]

Well doing purely optional buff stacking for god knows what reason is optional

[spark sinew]

man i keep forgetting to craft damn nanoflakes for skadi module

game wants me to remain pure

[glass monolith]

Shu + 4 Sui + Full AH squad + Silence alter. Turn your Skadi into raid boss

[spark sinew]

i'm honestly still not convinced

about 3 ah + 9 being better than 2 ah +10

[glass monolith]

I plan toward 4 Sui just for a funny.

[spark sinew]

but people keep telling me that

[glass monolith]

I care not for min max

[spark sinew]

disgusting

[glass monolith]

I care for having good time so i have reason to login when tomorrow happens

[spark sinew]

game is slow ish enough to roll out content

you can do both

and with modules being limited...

[glass monolith]

i have huge pile of them just cuz. Gained almost every single instance of them from AP shop and events, but barely moduled most of my stuff

[spark sinew]

going from akafuyu paradox (literally only akafuyu as an op and the stage has 1 single choke)

meanwhile Mumu

there's no way those were made by the same person

[glass monolith]

Mod 3 - Gladiia, Perfumer, Indigo, Astgenne, Kroos alter, Pozy, Lunacub, Ambriel, Chen, Skadi
Mod 2 - Ceobe, April, Totter
Mod 1 - Phantom, Weedy, Kazemaru, Ling, Ptilo, Lin, Fia, Archetto, Fartooth, Aciddrop, Eunectes, Humus, NTR, La Pluma, Flametail, Saga
Sooo uh.... 141 module block used on my end i think

[waxen swan]

I dont even remember

[spark sinew]

either i'm bad or this paradox is actually hard ish

am i getting baited by mumu doro

[glass monolith]

Like i remember my damn modules, i manually went by class to check them

[waxen swan]

All i know is i dont have enough

And i want more

[glass monolith]

i have 273 on hands, and i am aware that it won't cover all modules i want to get at some point, mostly being mod 3 majority of snipers for simp reason

[waxen swan]

Fake simp

[glass monolith]

Lunacub attack