if he get def ignore
#strategy
quick pecan
bro is barely a musha
he’s paying a blood tax for sp++ and aspd ++ but the difference is he can consistently keep it
limpid siren
Flashback to dodge malding
turbid badge
lmfao
limpid siren
limpid siren
How many runs made it past the hella check
limpid siren
50 out of?
limpid siren
Lol
turbid badge
Lol
full finch
oof
limpid siren
🫡
latent anvil
lol
sly pivot
i unironically thought i should splice the runs
full finch
cc6 was rough man
sly pivot
but i pulled through
limpid siren
full finch
I had so much fun but I spent so many hours
full finch
I couldn't believe it when I finally pulled that r30 outta my ass with such a halfassed team
latent anvil
Like 500 runs of 4-9
sly pivot
ngl i just practiced zaaro every good while so i dont forget what to do
if i do get THE run
sly pivot
it really is mald knowing u solved the stage but cant do it because rng
latent anvil
Where you need the most cracked seed ever
limpid siren
ngl i just practiced zaaro every good while so i dont forget what to do
I love those precious few runs where you finally make it past the rng check and just fucking forget what to do
scarlet mortar
the "good skill" for flags being S1 this usually becomes negligible
latent anvil
I love those precious few runs where you finally make it past the rng check and ...
I hate when this happen
scarlet mortar
you're only looking at 8s of +1 block 
full finch
the "good skill" for flags being S1 this usually becomes negligible
use with flametail 
latent anvil
It's actually too bad
scarlet mortar
4s at 2x speed
vernal lion
ok so this is how you beat this stage with Typhon s3
vernal lion
s2 is still easier to do
sly pivot
get smoked
full finch
I did M8-8 CM exe + saria on the first try
and haven't gotten it again in 30 attempts
sly pivot
i think the other 2 actual attempts died from hellagur not dodging phase 2 zaaro
scarlet mortar
if this were CC#5 with its bs rush bulk and DP economy i would consider the +1 block a bit more
(it doesn't work in CC#5 though bc of the tiles)
shell arch
the "good skill" for flags being S1 this usually becomes negligible
True. Maybe I'm too brainrotten with saga too much
scarlet mortar
True. Maybe I'm too brainrotten with saga too much <:ExeNaruhodo:838716844076564...
else yh there's just hardly a place where you
- can't cheese with flag S1
- can't survive with pioneers
- still need that much fucken DP to bring flags, bc else y'all could've followed up with laneholders or dps
sly pivot
only relevant for stupid openings
scarlet mortar
the base flag mod in practice almost doesn't exist
ivory nimbus
Man, Typhon cooked Mudrock's Golems alive in FD-6. Got perma stun into the shadow realm.
sly pivot
typhon is the goat 🐐🐐🐐🐐
scarlet mortar
sail S3 is the one skill i'd think realistically synergizes with the flag mod S2 doesn't exist
sly pivot
🛑
wicked viper
ok so this is how you beat this stage with Typhon s3
i spawn camp on top left corner instead
specifically, estelle hold the bottom left lane, since many weakmob
wicked viper
mousse solo the flag dudes
tidal sedge
Oh. I keep forgetting to try the funny Gavialter + Quercus combo in current anni
sly pivot
wtfart the forbidden gavialter quercus combo
only forbidden cause no one actually uses quercus s2
tidal sedge
Fia diehards occasionally do
glass monolith
only forbidden cause no one actually uses quercus s2
Sad Fia S2 spam noices
vernal lion
kinda admit, Spuria s2 with Typhon s3 is very good combo
full finch
infinitely
latent anvil
turbid badge
why use spuria with a ammo based skill smh
sly pivot
she must be awesome
glass monolith
Typhon is 1.108 Fias
latent anvil
Fia is so op
vernal lion
why use spuria with a ammo based skill smh
increase aspd
scarlet mortar
why use spuria with a ammo based skill smh
10 business day -> 8 business day bosskill
full finch
oh it finally leaked
sly pivot
its illegal
vernal lion
increase aspd and ammo skill doesnt pair sir
I don't need ammo sir
full finch
time to see if gav can cook eblana
flint falcon
dont most ppl complain about typhon dmg being too slow
sly pivot
the dmg will be faster if i warf buff instead
cinder pike
ok so this is how you beat this stage with Typhon s3
I swear you can clear that stage with half a brain lmao
sly pivot
idk tho
sly pivot
yea
cinder pike
just camp the blue box
sly pivot
im just throwing words
full finch
ptilo died 
weak gazelle
no one mention current event map yet
seem like another boring maps
full finch
haven't played yet
cinder pike
it is pretty ass
limpid siren
Current event is okay so far, but i haven’t done much of it
vernal lion
limpid siren
Because i spent a load of sanity testing which idiots could kill the cm targetter drone
sly pivot
Because i spent a load of sanity testing which idiots could kill the cm targette...
🧎♂️
flint falcon
speaking of, where r the lights in fd7 cm? im out of plans playing in fd 2 cm
scarlet mortar
Because i spent a load of sanity testing which idiots could kill the cm targette...
minimalist soloes
weak gazelle
targetter drone uhhh... ufo one?
sly pivot
how about this:
gav/saria/sail/reed
sail is such a fraud just use mues
scarlet mortar
fyi yes he's safe on the corner tile
sly pivot
clone gav surely is fine
scarlet mortar
it's omega troll
sly pivot
damm i thought it would hit
scarlet mortar
the range barely misses his targeting radius
flint falcon
huh thought casters cant reach that
latent monolith
khant how is zuole looking 
weak gazelle
i see
didnt try those maps yet
maybe i found something fun to do there too
scarlet mortar
2step if i could leave the civs there forever
limpid siren
minimalist soloes
He probably dies because bad range
sly pivot
zuo le tramples on my farmland
scarlet mortar
nope
sly pivot
no mini hits without getting hit
limpid siren
L bozo
scarlet mortar
no he literally just spawncamps lmao
limpid siren
sly pivot
cause the ufo range is fucked
limpid siren
Let’s find out
scarlet mortar
if mini cleared it no shot kjera doesn't
sly pivot
ill laugh if she doesnt
flint falcon
now that we know casters can hit that though time to test all of em 
weak gazelle
kjera huh
look grim to me
scarlet mortar
idk maybe she'd die bc it starts moving
latent monolith
why is the event shop like 20k lmd
sly pivot
kjera freezes
latent monolith
its so bad
limpid siren
it's a 60s wait order
sly pivot
and itll save her
scarlet mortar
but that'd be actually tragic
scarlet mortar
kjera freezes
clueless
limpid siren
gamer
flint falcon
how can drones hover while frozen anyway this game is bozos
scarlet mortar
mini mogs it how is that a q
tidal sedge
FD-1 is a clever use of showcasing besieger blind spot being beneficial.
tidal sedge
Typhon can't explode slugs next to her
vernal lion
i hate this woman
fact, you hate rng
limpid siren
reverse rng gate
limpid siren
she probably could if she hit every single crit
or is she a double hit?
i don't remember
sly pivot
🧎♂️
tidal sedge
She's atk scale/def ignore/stun lottery
weak gazelle
see if my santalla can kill ufo on that map next week🏃
scarlet mortar
the sad part is that dusk and W can't kill that mf in CM but mini can
the rarity did not ratio
tidal sedge
80% def ignore fsr
limpid siren
it's double hit tho not atk_scale 
tidal sedge
Oh. I confused that bit with Aak
scarlet mortar
dusk is a fraud
keep yourself safe
sly pivot
someone...
sly pivot
dusk s1 right
limpid siren
hmm
full finch
alrighty
sly pivot
clueless
vernal lion
She's atk scale/def ignore/stun lottery
imagine spuria didn't proc any of that during skill
spark sinew
your vigil looks weird
sly pivot
fake fan
scarlet mortar
pretty sure it doesn't though
tidal sedge
Oh yeah she's double rng gated
scarlet mortar
ok and dusk is a splash caster
sly pivot
irrelevant
scarlet mortar
clueless
weak gazelle
spuria is.... cope her itself is already delusional
sly pivot
ig its time to whip out s2
scarlet mortar
dusk S2 sku
scarlet mortar
why does everything need mats
scarlet mortar
S1 technically has the highest dps tbf
tidal sedge
I forget, is there anything that grants shields to ranged ops
scarlet mortar
but dusk S3 could keep the drone off her by spawning freelings
sly pivot
I forget, is there anything that grants shields to ranged ops
roberta doesnt work?
idr
if its not her its joever
tidal sedge
Hers are melee locked
glass monolith
Roberta is melee operators only
scarlet mortar
this was S3 solo dps'ing the drone
sly pivot
dorothy is a fraud
scarlet mortar
🥹
limpid siren
vernal lion
I forget, is there anything that grants shields to ranged ops
despite Archetto herself, I don't think there's any shielding skill for ranged op
limpid siren
bros i don't think she's doing it
vernal lion
unless you are talking about Shining s2 (but it's barrier)
limpid siren
me when mfw 24s duration s1
limpid siren
most ops have like 60s timers to kill it before it moves
sly pivot
i was gonna say outheal
limpid siren
she has 24s
vernal lion
read issue
sly pivot
im not reading her kit
spirals me into depression
i rather guess
and everytime i do shes worse
limpid siren
i probably made a mistake somewhere but i don't think she can kill anyway
weak gazelle
she wont make it trust
sly pivot
lappland mogs it
ranged units are 🚮
hmm
istina kills prob
glaucus is
questionabke
limpid siren
Does lappland actually kill it
Bro stop mentioning units
I’m running out of sanity
limpid siren
Probably, she has like 60s
sly pivot
i want to say executor but this man has 30 dp the drones gonna move before his skill is up
limpid siren
Let me go set up my pizzas then ill test these idiots
weak gazelle
lappy wont kill it🤓
sly pivot
save a slice for me
turbid badge
wtf
scarlet mortar
hit hard a broken wall
weak gazelle
nice
pizza as a fuel to rack some weird shit from your brain
limpid siren
Man if she can’t kill then ill have to admit that minimalist isn’t garbage
weak gazelle
have to call glauc expert to testify it
full finch
pretty smooth so far
jovial nest
I’m running out of sanity
Drink some pots
weak gazelle
in honesty i wanna see the result tho about that
to see how much i wrong
turbid badge
why it says ncd has a shield in gamepress interactive list
turbid badge
smh it doesnt even have wishlash on here
limpid siren
wtf
sly pivot
🧎♂️
limpid siren
time to earn your 80, glaucus
quick pecan
people use glaucus 
weak gazelle
proviso
i have a high hope from her
see if she can meet my expectation
cant build anyone rn cause literally broke
sly pivot
damn
jovial nest
and here i am swimming with EXP and LMD but am just limited by glue
limpid siren
🫡
limpid siren
surely istina gets the W
turbid badge
more damage to ranged stonks
sly pivot
maybe 60s is too broken
limpid siren
🫡
quick pecan
had an intrusive thought to raise heidi today
sly pivot
worse than glaucus
full finch
I failed again 
turbid badge
have u guys tried minimalist
weak gazelle
powerfull cake thrower
limpid siren
someone did earlier
sly pivot
glaucus kills earlier with 80
sly pivot
plot twist
limpid siren
who else did i have to test
vernal lion
talent is just good to hit only 1 enemy with s1 
sly pivot
damn ....
vernal lion
0.6 atk int moment
weak gazelle
lunacub
but surely she can't do it
sly pivot
clueless
limpid siren
lunacub can't, not in one deploy at least
that's what started me testing random idiots tbh
weak gazelle
lol
limpid siren
i don't have s1 mastery
scarlet mortar
try it M0
limpid siren
bro i forgot her fucking atk interval increases on s1
weak gazelle
i wanna say sesa but... just forget it
limpid siren
what is this unit
vernal lion
s1 doesn't give much stat tbh
sly pivot
sometimes i question if ure a 5* player
limpid siren
true i don't play this game
sly pivot
🥹
scarlet mortar
i wanna say sesa but... just forget it
W S1 fails ain't no way
vernal lion
lv7 to m3 is just +20% atk
scarlet fulcrum
didnt fw talent activate? Since it has no source
scarlet mortar
ok she's meteorite
sly pivot
it does
limpid siren
jesus
scarlet mortar
diff story
sly pivot
m3 kills
limpid siren
m3 kills for sure yea
limpid siren
melanite known top 5 5* sniper
vernal lion
give 20% atk buff = melanite s1m3
sly pivot
better than greyyter
vernal lion
weak gazelle
guess she will get her e2 (melanite) but after cold shot
limpid siren
bro didn't even get his invite
scarlet mortar
i wonder if greyy2 passes the vibe check cluel
jovial nest
I'm very much tempted to raise the other Bards just so I have a really good supp swap healing army in SSS
limpid siren
you can just run them at e0 for cheap tho
quick pecan
bro i forgot her fucking atk interval increases on s1
spuria synergy 💪
vernal lion
I'm very much tempted to raise the other Bards just so I have a really good supp...
waiting for april fool to get that youtuber bitch
sly pivot
i ran out of 5* to test
limpid siren
with rng provence s1 surely kills
sly pivot
zzz
limpid siren
but now we know melanite > provence
weak gazelle
still looking a good excuse to raise jie yun
jovial nest
waiting for april fool to get that youtuber bitch
It is so annoying to have not used her for IS3. Unless you're willing to go back to past ISs, which I might after a long long while.
weak gazelle
the fate being powercrept-ed is inevitable
turbid badge
wtf qani can "levitate" stainless turret
vernal lion
real
turbid badge
lol what is this
turbid badge
oh its just the damage
sly pivot
point qaani at quintus
jovial nest
Hmmmm....Qani
turbid badge
anyways i wish i had qani s1
limpid siren
lol meteorite kill is rng gated
turbid badge
u cant use s2 on alrd flying targets
jovial nest
i'm very tempted to use the 5* E2 cap in Anime Chen pack on Qani just for ease of Ed2 IS4
jovial nest
i don't have that many candidates to promote 5* anyways
limpid siren
crit
scarlet fulcrum
Talent crit
sly pivot
i rmb now
limpid siren
+60% atk
vernal lion
even with 50% chance from mod, it's still rng gated
limpid siren
tidal sedge
Is FD-3 trying to tell me the Gelato stop is a scam
turbid badge
qani should kill with s1 
limpid siren
yea i kinda just ignored it
unless you can kill the riflemen so fast
it feels like bait to try and save it
scarlet mortar
wtf W got closer than that
limpid siren
known 6* unit W
sly pivot
6* gap is real
scarlet mortar
smh meteorite bad confirmed
tidal sedge
I'd have expected that kind of design in GA proper but okay
scarlet mortar
sly pivot
iris or harmonie?
polar crane
later
limpid siren
ain't no way she's killing man
vernal lion
iris for burst, harmonie for dps
weak gazelle
limpid siren
limpid siren
nah she probably kills
limpid siren
higher dp units are getting punished because i'm opening with just zima anyway
vernal lion
now do erato
scarlet fulcrum
Fair enough
glass monolith
I run out of test plans, do Indigo
sly pivot
higher dp units are getting punished because i'm opening with just zima anyway
well thats their problem
dont cost so much
know ur worth
🚬
scarlet fulcrum
Next aosta
limpid siren
Erato kills
glass monolith
know ur worth
Cantabile OP
latent monolith
This is CM right?
limpid siren
This is CM right?
Yea
sly pivot
im bedging
limpid siren
I run out of test plans, do Indigo
Not raised
limpid siren
Stay gay
glass monolith
dp is one part of a unit u have to consider
Maybe enemies should consider my feeling and don't rush my ass 
limpid siren
doesn't it only hit ground?
turbid badge
indigo should work
limpid siren
oh wait that's normal mode lol
turbid badge
she wasted charge on the dumb guy
weak gazelle
seem hibi alter can do it?
i think no
limpid siren
but yea the mystics should work with proper management
scarlet fulcrum
Talent iris built that way ig
limpid siren
seem hibi alter can do it?
i think no
turbid badge
seem hibi alter can do it?
i think no
try my hibi friend diseappar
qani seems like he can do it with s1
civic bear
Is that even with attack cheat
limpid siren
hm?
vernal lion
now test Shalem
weak gazelle
i see
good to know
still didnt like her but with mod it improve her quite big
the case is fragility still so rare so i hardly can measure it correctly
limpid siren
wdym of course
vernal lion
s2 hits air
limpid siren
but how is that of course
there's nothing in the wording that explicitly states it hits air
glass monolith
What else it should be? On course?
foggy grove
isn't asbestos or shalem staple for defenderknight when handling thicc air threat?
vernal lion
so how is it of course
limpid siren
that's not in game
limpid siren
yea i only check wikis for specific things 
glass monolith
Tequila - attack 2 enemies
Shalem - firing x times at random enemies
limpid siren
based
latent monolith
It's also carless
latent monolith
Insanely based
glass monolith
Wording is based but like, there is
limpid siren
no
latent monolith
Shalem is one of the few defender AA options
full finch
well
limpid siren
okay i'm not arguing with that
scarlet mortar
there's nothing in the wording that explicitly states it hits air
what's the wording of S2 again
latent monolith
I'm surprised that the drone doesn't hit here tbh
scarlet mortar
shalem's notorious in defknights but yh tl's have always been fucky
full finch
honestly think gav/saria/ptilo and then just add reed might actually do the trick
limpid siren
damn pre module too
yea i just don't watch arknights content
and there's quite a few 5*s
hard to keep track of what they all do
scarlet mortar
yh it's stuff like "firing" "shooting" etc that you need to look out for
full finch
imagine not knowing every operator in the game 
quick pecan
oh i meant hibis
civic bear
Shalem is like one of the strongest 5* DPS
scarlet mortar
those usually imply ranged attacks
quick pecan
she kinda a sleeper pick for 5* ngl
weak gazelle
that is one statement i can agree
quick pecan
🪨🪨 ofc better but hibis cycle pretty fast
limpid siren
his skill dps is high
glass monolith
If i had nickle each time HG powercreep Amiya Caster S2 i would have 2, which is weird it happened twice
full finch
good skill dps for a 5 ye
weak gazelle
and good thing not a lot of ppl know it
full finch
if only asbestos didn't have default splash
and actually did damage
scarlet mortar
nah he outdps'es asbestos
quick pecan
well her atk interval on skill is shit
scarlet mortar
by a long shot
latent monolith
Why are you so principally against default splash
soft crystal
I heard that shalem s2 beats surtr is this troo?
full finch
because I've played tower defense games where splash doesn't suck
civic bear
If 3 u just use s1 as intended 
scarlet mortar
shalem contends with surtr yh asbestos isn't even in this eqn 
void terrace
Hmm just thinking about saileach s2 with mod with executor alter s3 and stainless turrets
scarlet mortar
If 3 u just use s1 as intended <:LappKek:637389377026392064>
czerny gaming
void terrace
Executor gets an additional block, with 2 turrets and 1 enemy
latent monolith
imagine ak shots behaved like btd6 projectiles instead of splash
Well ig it wouldn't be that great because of the more limited angles you can take
quick pecan
well s1 is just worse than a centurion
he’s not beating broca
latent monolith
He's healing 180x3
360 on crit
latent monolith
For the funny 1k heals
void terrace
And it's cycle time is pretty concistent
Im interested to see how far that gets him in terms of tanking shit
full finch
I've played TDs a lot more similar to arknights than btd6
and they had actually good splash
default splash actually hit multiple targets, or even better
having multitarget and splash, what a novel concept
vernal lion
this is when I don't have Mudrock and need to burst the shit out of boss
Surtr relevant, real
void terrace
Good ol JUS
scarlet mortar
more like mud relevant
bro just has the hp of 10 colossi
once he's blocked you can do fuck all tbh
full finch
isn't that the immortal
scarlet mortar
yh
full finch
he who has like 600k HP
vernal lion
800k
full finch
modest health pool
vernal lion
ending 1 boss with both 2 phases is like above 1 million hp
full finch
line breaker is 500k/500k p1/p2?
vernal lion
stat check moment
vernal lion
line breaker is 500k/500k p1/p2?
700k
full finch
just use mlynar 
vernal lion
real
void terrace
The immortal was funny. I kept farming him with the hunters and mylnar
Skadi and specter tanking him was such a cheese
void terrace
Just waiting for mylnar to charge up and schwing schwing
scarlet mortar
iirc i baited him with mlynar and then mud
void terrace
He's so value tho. Quick stage for a bunch of resources
scarlet mortar
the one thing you have to look out for is the crystal fuckers
void terrace
Unlike the stupid wyvern stage or the 4 boss stupid sjit
soft crystal
I've played TDs a lot more similar to arknights than btd6
and they had actually ...
Splash matters more in most tds cause ebemy density is usually very high
Ak doesnt have 200 target waves
void terrace
the one thing you have to look out for is the crystal fuckers
Ooooooh yeah fking snuck up on gladia and killed her the first time I tried
Wasn't paying attention fml
scarlet mortar
they travel through mid halfway through the map duration and occasionally just reflect your dps to death
i had that happen twice
full finch
Splash matters more in most tds cause ebemy density is usually very high
it was a game with 40-80 enemy stages
very similar to arknights
and the default splash in arknights barely covers a single tile
soft crystal
What game is this
vernal lion
I hate it when the game is rng, but at least it should be 7 not just 4
soft crystal
I do know btd6 is
full finch
I can't say here
vernal lion
I can't say here
full finch
but it was JP only
vernal lion
just censore
soft crystal
Is it a r18 kind of game...
scarlet mortar
...ok i can guess
scarlet mortar
real
full finch
but when the splash casters either deal like 5000 damage per hit or shoot 3 projectiles with overlapping splash radius
it makes arknights seem more than a little anemic
full finch
actual AoE in arknights I don't have issues with
reapers, spreadshooters, etc.
are good units
soft crystal
Yeah
full finch
tile based aoe is effective
soft crystal
Casters just get ducked
full finch
because enemies only have to have a toe in range to get hit
but with splash
it's centered on an enemy
limpid siren
yea splash casters are just generally bad
full finch
it barely extends to an adjacent tile
limpid siren
same with most other archetypes that centre around this
soft crystal
I appreciate that they tried to fix mostima though
full finch
it's just terrible
glass monolith
but when the splash casters either deal like 5000 damage per hit or shoot 3 proj...
CC7 experience, when 90% of my restart are 1 second after boss spawn because i didn't place baits for his RANGE 10 attack 
quick pecan
leonhardt s2 true aoe 💪
limpid siren
mob spacing doesn't really do them any favours, and their per hit attacks are just kinda lame
void terrace
P5 mod3 mostima was such justice
vernal lion
splash caster is just like the ordinary mortar tower in Kingdom Rush
void terrace
99% slow area wide
full finch
which is why expanded radius skills like horn S1, dusk S1, etc. are decent
because they're the only relevent splash damage in the game
horn S3 doesn't suck because it deals a fuckton of damage
quick pecan
real meteorite s1 erasure
void terrace
Dusk s3 is
full finch
she has the largest splash in the game
void terrace
Tacky
full finch
it's like 2 tiles
void terrace
I keep on forgetting she priorities stainless turrets
limpid siren
and she still takes ten years to kill shit 
full finch
use archetto
full finch
in terms of actual targeting though
ros S2 is the best splash targeting
if only the skill dealt damage
void terrace
Ros needs a justice module
full finch
but it reliably hits at least 2-3 enemies every time
unlike most splash that hits 1-2
vernal lion
ros has issue with enemy with decent def stat
void terrace
Ros ignore 50% defence when
vernal lion
like around 600 def and it begins a problem
void terrace
Ikr
vernal lion
just like Exu
full finch
but yeah
I shit on default splash because I know what decent splash is like
void terrace
I now enjoy facing exu backwards to proc stainless turret and and catch drone leaks
soft crystal
Doesnt ros have a def penetration module?
void terrace
Solves her defence issue
full finch
Doesnt ros have a def penetration module?
yeah but aftershocks are a shit mechanic
vernal lion
Doesnt ros have a def penetration module?
only flat def
cosmic thicket
Doesnt ros have a def penetration module?
it's her talent
full finch
mfw 50% atk scale
shell arch
Aftershock is a great mechanic (for IW)
full finch
if it was 50% damage scale this wouldn't be an issue
full finch
yes
shell arch
Pepega i wanted to mod3 her
void terrace
Can Ros trigger 2 stainless turrets at once
vernal lion
Aftershock is a great mechanic (for IW)
any mechanic with instance-attack
full finch
her 800 atk strikes hit for 800 +400 +400
full finch
yes
void terrace
Ooooh
I'll try that
You know what they need
If her s3 was cancellable
That would improve her immenseley
shell arch
S3 is cancellable
vernal lion
no lol
void terrace
As in you can end her skill earky
vernal lion
vivid rain
Just retreat ros
void terrace
I know
full finch
Can Ros trigger 2 stainless turrets at once
void terrace
Ask s3
shell arch
Yeah you can't manually end the skill
scarlet mortar
ros is cancellable, retreat her
shell arch
ros is cancellable, retreat her
Brother you sound like the guy who used to do deploy sash, use s3, retreat
(I'm saying you're old as f)
vital arrow
Isnt that what everyone does
full finch
that's what you're supposed to do
tidal sedge
That would improve her immenseley
It would be nice but I don't see how it's an immense improvement
vernal lion
ros is cancellable, retreat her
imagine we always have Snowsant Sign
full finch
eyja too
vernal lion
full finch
mfw 90sp skill
scarlet mortar
Brother you sound like the guy who used to do deploy sash, use s3, retreat
isn't it valid in SA's case
vital arrow
Just add mostima
quick pecan
do you think triple hit + 75% scale on aftershocks would be too good
scarlet mortar
especially since we don't even need his unstealth anymore
shell arch
Isnt that what everyone does
Alright grandpa let's get back to bed
shell arch
isn't it valid in SA's case
Yes
full finch
do you think triple hit + 75% scale on aftershocks would be too good
no
at most it would make ros decent
still would deal 0 damage to high def
vivid rain
do you think triple hit + 75% scale on aftershocks would be too good
Nah ros'd still be dogshit
vernal lion
it's even worse than Typhon as 6 star
full finch
but at least she wouldn't struggle with medium def enemies anymore
shell arch
I think if ros has dmgscale aftershocks instead, it'll improve her significantly
vivid rain
Assuming ros have 800 atk base it'll give you a 600 phys damage, which just translate to exu by default
full finch
I think if ros has dmgscale aftershocks instead, it'll improve her significantly
colossal improvement
shell arch
Like rosa premod vs after mod difference
full finch
yes
vernal lion
at least you can use Ros as a token killer
vital arrow
Ethan does it better than her 
shell arch
Then again if her mod is dmg scale i think people would do s2m3 instead
full finch
max ros has ~800 ATK (a bit more)
vivid rain
Unironically used ros less than lancet (i dont own ros)
shell arch
Unironically used ros less than lancet (i own ros)
full finch
so she actually deals damage to things, especially with def ignore
vernal lion
ros is not even a real helidrop, but in case you want her s3, that is
full finch
except with atk scale aftershocks, they deal 0 damage
vivid rain
How much def does ros ignore btw
shell arch
200 modless 300 mod3 iirc
vernal lion
and 160 def with s3
shell arch
Wtf i misinfo, mb
full finch
all you're left with is
vernal lion
she can literally kill shit without problem
full finch
the initial hit
vernal lion
they always has like 300 def
full finch
with a 2.1s interval
which is garbage
they fixed this with S3
-50% interval
except it has the funni condition of blocked enemies
full finch
it even has multitarget!
vivid rain
Only issue with s3 is the silly restriction
full finch
too bad you can't attack anything because nobody blocks enemies
scarlet mortar
wtf fartooth usage
vivid rain
Dont know why hg didnt give her the tactician/ntr treatment but whatever
quick pecan
if rosmontis had to be mid for greyy alt to be good
full finch
if ros S3
full finch
could hit enemies in other unit's range with S3
it would be a great skill
long cooldown, but worth the wait
vital arrow
Its fartooth s2
scarlet mortar
ros should be given the exu treatment
vivid rain
What exu treatment
full finch
she does
vital arrow
Isnt that what she already does
full finch
S3 has absurdly high raw DPS
scarlet mortar
double it
vital arrow
Her damage ceiling is already abusrd
vivid rain
Too lame
full finch
keep in mind
at 0 def, all of her attacks have effective 200% scale
scarlet mortar
2024 balancing (real)
vital arrow
But she needs the solar system to perfectly align to get her ideal scenario
vivid rain
Golem when they have low def but high hp
scarlet mortar
i'm perfectly fine with impractical setups that won't see the light of day tbh
not every op needs to be mlynar
full finch
Golem when they have low def but high hp
800 DEF
vivid rain
(The B def is a lie)
vital arrow
Tbf ros is like 2 years old
vernal lion
you know I'm willing to test dmg on that fucking rock in RA
full finch
Tbf ros is like 2 years old
she released with mudrock 
quick pecan
i was going to say that maybe they made the aftershocks 50% because if they were the same amount as initial hit or 75% then they would just out dps marksmen so perhaps it was meant to balance flingers out
but then flingers already cost more to deploy and don’t hit air
full finch
mudrock
vivid rain
I'm just gonna let those guy run into holes
full finch
is still an excellent unit even today
vital arrow
Saga released with dusk
vernal lion
she has been released same time with chap 8 iirc
vital arrow
vernal lion
wait
vivid rain
Out dpsing marksman is such a low bar nowadays if anyone doesnt do that they are practically trash
civic bear
ros should be given the exu treatment
She already is bro
quick pecan
i mean ros was released so early on
vernal lion
full finch
well tbh
for a splash caster dusk is probably the most well put together
scarlet mortar
is still an excellent unit even today
as a mud enjoyer reading this i teared up inside
civic bear
Ros stain is the equivalent to exu buffsquad but aoe xdd
vivid rain
"Forget me not" nah i'd get dementia
scarlet mortar
She already is bro
vital arrow
No I mean saga isnt really excellent by standards, shes a pioneer
shell arch
Saga is still cool. I have more count to use lancet than replacing saga with someone ever since i had raised saga
vernal lion
marksmen sniper and splash caster are treated like for newbie
vital arrow
I'd say ros is around the same level as saga
full finch
what
scarlet mortar
saga exists
vital arrow
In terms of usage
scarlet mortar
i haven't used pioneers in forever
latent monolith
Saga is still cool. I have more count to use lancet than replacing saga with som...
I mean you kinda can say that about most vgs
vital arrow
They just, exist
full finch
ik pioneers are shit on for not fitting in the meta well but they're very solid in general content
vivid rain
Fair score for better siege
shell arch
I mean you kinda can say that about most vgs
True 
latent monolith
doesn't make them good in a framework of other ops
like I can say the same about siege
vernal lion
use them for afk in IC
civic bear
Even in general ines shits on them
scarlet mortar
mlynar or FRDs, pick your poison
full finch
ines is unusual
vivid rain
Ines shits on everyone that isnt a flag bearer so lol lmao
full finch
the issue with agents is that their damage and DP production are at odds
civic bear
If u kill the enemy u don't need dp anymore
vivid rain
Agents' dp production is pretty good tho
scarlet mortar
yh but contextually if you don't have to do damage you don't need the DP
latent monolith
I don't like this argument because if the enemy is dead you don't need dp
scarlet mortar
FRDs fill in the gap of this argument so yh
vivid rain
(That's actually viable
latent monolith
and even then Ines generates a lot of dp unless its like one solitary slug
scarlet mortar
this really is just a 2024 moment
civic bear
gens dp to refund their cost
vivid rain
Agents generating comparable amount of dp to flags while have good utility is honestly silly as fuck
shell arch
How much anni was done with only 50 dp no vanguard run again?
quick pecan
ines just does 103748293 things at once to where most other vanguards attempt at utility is cute in comparison
civic bear
All of them
shell arch
Huh, unreal???
full finch
pretty sure all or most are no vanguarded
shell arch
Holy fuck 
vivid rain
Yeah anni isnt actually that hard
civic bear
All are
full finch
ashy marsh has chong exe shu 3op
latent monolith
All of them
Is there like a list of the clears
full finch
go look at arkrec
scarlet mortar
they're all on arkrec no
vivid rain
If ops are strong then they arent hard (lol lmao)
shell arch
Mfs casually doing no vg anni runs while I'm struggling without a myrtle in my squad 
latent monolith
arkrec doesn't have a no vg Anni category
full finch
oh
civic bear
It's normal squad just scroll down for no vanguard section
vivid rain
No vg runs is actually just abyssal hunter fuckery
civic bear
Nah
full finch
civic bear
U at best use 2 abyssal
shell arch
Is tidehollow the UT or SN themed anni?
scarlet mortar
didn't ancool upload a tidehollow no vg lmao
latent monolith
oh wait that's what this means
civic bear
Ye
full finch
oh wait
above is global server
below is CN server
scarlet mortar
strongest ancool subscriber
latent monolith
Idk I should probably learn Chinese for this shit
civic bear
It's a sub category special only for anni map so its not in dropdown
vivid rain
Isnt knowing chinese detrimental irl
full finch
oh
latent monolith
It's a sub category special only for anni map so its not in dropdown
Ig yeah fair, like the NM CM split on regular stages
vivid rain
Since you'll be forced to go to china for business (actual shitshow)
full finch
seashore doesn't have a no VG
civic bear
I know cuz I was the first clear on that
latent monolith
Since you'll be forced to go to china for business (actual shitshow)
Why can't I learn Chinese and like just continue living my life normally
vivid rain
Why can't I learn Chinese and like just continue living my life normally
Try not to tell everyone and you'll be fine trust
scarlet mortar
I know cuz I was the first clear on that
lmfao the one with mods prios chongyue's voicelines over the bgm
civic bear
That was optimized to just mlynar exalt reed