strategy

[manic oasis]

By top where do you mean

Early attempts she solod mid lane

Where the AOE damage dude is at

[spark sinew]

the very top
i assume that's the main problem?

[manic oasis]

Yea

[spark sinew]

a lot of possessed leaking and killing

[manic oasis]

The last 10 guys or so kill the guard

I'm doing secret ending I need those guys to live

[glass monolith]

Main cause of guard dead are 3 red crystal dudes which come at some point

[manic oasis]

Towards the end I think

I considered borrowing a Surtr for top lane for them

[glass monolith]

Useless, they too thicc

[manic oasis]

Yea they tank enough to leak behind her still

[glass monolith]

They self damage faster that Surtr kill them, assuming they don't kill Surtr before S3

[manic oasis]

I'ma post this in case people forgot how it looks

[spark sinew]

yeah like, mly + mud is my thought

[manic oasis]

I can usually squeeze in enough time to do the S3 I'm using a capped Surtr

[spark sinew]

you have like 3 medics already so

[manic oasis]

Oh I tried Mylar on the bottom part there but he died I should try it with my medics tho I think I had just one before

[spark sinew]

could technically do the same with saria s3 but she tends to die sometimes (since she can't slow and be 0 block like mud)

[manic oasis]

I need the 0 Block?

[spark sinew]

i mean your saria will die otherwise at the very top, yes

[manic oasis]

Interesting interesting

[spark sinew]

although you also have eyja so you could even heal it...

[manic oasis]

Oh yes she can do that huh

Actually no she's too far

[flint falcon]

btw what do u get from hidden endings, secret lvl or medals? i might go back and have a try myself

[manic oasis]

Isn't she?

Wanderings have nasty range

[manic oasis]

I thought it was how you get guard Amiya could be wrong

[flint falcon]

guard amiya is jt8-2

[manic oasis]

Yea and I need to beat this for that right?

Would be hilarious if that's not true

[spark sinew]

check s3

[flint falcon]

nah u go through r8-11 and m8-8

[spark sinew]

[flint falcon]

[manic oasis]

Well still worth it for orignium

I've spent the entire morning and afternoon at this point doing this dumb map

[flint falcon]

imma just try real quick and see if it gives anything

[manic oasis]

Idc I want blood

[glass monolith]

Doing all secrets give you troll lore stage where you have 2 options where 1 option just end scene... And other give you 5 pages of monologue

[manic oasis]

I'm a press skip player

[glass monolith]

That stage literally do reverse skip

[flint falcon]

no matrialistic rewards? ight

[glass monolith]

1 per secret + 1 when you called all

[flint falcon]

do they give medals at least

[manic oasis]

I'm like idk who this Patriot is but being a true American must give superpowers

[spark sinew]

oh wow

[glass monolith]

Literally USSR Ivan in power armor from fallout

[manic oasis]

Never played those but sounds like it makes sense

UUSR? Like one of those idol gatchas?

[glass monolith]

Ursus is USSR, with gulag camps, repressions, and russians jumpscare

Other game countries also based on something irl, and there are people who every event write esse about what the hell being referenced

[manic oasis]

I thought cause Mud is so expensive I'd double up on flags

Might be dum

I'm guessing Silverash mid lane facing up

[glass monolith]

At least you have some kind of plan. Me doing saving of Shieldguards was copy pasta of "Thorns Solo carry" video before we gained Horn and other operators who can help

[spark sinew]

i would honestly find 90 mly but go try

[manic oasis]

Oh yeah who's the best Horn alternative

I think I have them both

Or is it 3

[latent anvil]

mlynar

im trying horn rn and she can almost clear everything

[manic oasis]

I'm thinking between Ashlock and Firewhistle

[spark sinew]

please don't raise anyone

[glass monolith]

nah, it is Horn for reason

[manic oasis]

[spark sinew]

after seeing you raising durnar and whatever

i am obligated to say it

[manic oasis]

Gonna need to ask professor Hauckindu next time I'ma raise anyone

Anyways I'ma go try it

[spark sinew]

nah, feel free to raise durnar to e2 the next time low rarity guide will use her

[glass monolith]

(hides e2 aciddrop)

[spark sinew]

there's a clear difference between those though

mostly because no guide would ever use acidrop anyway

🏃‍♂️

[glass monolith]

CC12.2 will use shielded archers from MN, trust

[spark sinew]

one risk will make their shield persist x10 as long

and max risk would still be some blacknight spam anyway

[glass monolith]

Blacknight S2 spam is something unholy anyway

Sleeps chapter 9 fireballs. Sleeps invisible enemies. Sleeps chapter 12 civilians

[manic oasis]

Ok so crazy actually

I almost beat it

Mud died really fast

I just need better prep tho I will beat it next time

[flint falcon]

im baaack

so 1 op and a hidden story yeah

[latent anvil]

do all of the secret missions

and you get another prime on top of them all i think

[spark sinew]

mlynar sweep as always

[latent anvil]

thats someone else

oops i gonna make hauckindu block me

[spark sinew]

why would I

[latent anvil]

no clue

[spark sinew]

nvm now i know why

[flint falcon]

guess again

[manic oasis]

Oh yeah saw a thumbnail saying Ethan module cooks this map

Also I finally beat that map

Muds S3 is so funny

Ya know I never use that slime vanguard chick even tho I have her

Meu uh

[flint falcon]

muelsyse

[manic oasis]

That's it

[tropic valve]

Ethan module cooks a lot of maps

one of the best modules ever

[flint falcon]

she carried me through my less-newbie days along with reed
the actual newbie days were thanks to ling

[spark sinew]

mud s3 is great

[manic oasis]

Would people judge me if I said I'm a Manticore user

[flint falcon]

shes decent

not that we didnt judge u plenty already

[manic oasis]

[glass monolith]

Show me your RA 1 flowers for Manticore

[manic oasis]

My what now

[spark sinew]

she's decent even without them

although funny idt i ever used her in RA
the problem of having too stacked of an acc

[manic oasis]

This is her rn if that's what you want

What does RA mean

[flint falcon]

reclaimation algorithm, a game mode that was temporarily available

[glass monolith]

Touch grass sand base building event where you gain +100 attack speed for manticore flowers early in story

[manic oasis]

Oo I think I heard of that

[glass monolith]

Sadly ending 3 demand you to break her heart

[flint falcon]

becoming permanent on cn currently

[spark sinew]

early?

did i click through it, wtf

[glass monolith]

COMPARED TO 28 STEP ENDING 3 PIECE OF SHIT NEEDING ME TO REDO FIRST TIME MEETING WITH SAND DONGER

[manic oasis]

Y'all love Manticore way more than me is what I'm getting here

[spark sinew]

gimme 10 minutes

[flint falcon]

i dont ethan better

[glass monolith]

I do because that S1M3 + module is something when combined with Chain caster for extra 80% slows

[manic oasis]

I actually lack a chain caster rn

That isn't the 4 star ones

They're apparently pretty good

[glass monolith]

Astgenne rerun at some point in Yostar timeline

[manic oasis]

Yea I heard of that

Gonna use her

I'm kinda fine with casters GG Amiya Eyja

Of course she does different stuff then them

[flint falcon]

chain caster isnt really a strong demand better than arts defenders still

[glass monolith]

[manic oasis]

Did arts defenders do something to you guys to be such haters

[glass monolith]

Lone Trail had piled up enemies to just chain caster, uh.... uh.... Chain casters cute

[manic oasis]

Valid af

[glass monolith]

They are less tanky, and do damage when skill active is like, yes, they do damage, we have 11 operator slots to do damage

[manic oasis]

Oh yeah I haven't started contingency. They have no right being so hard

[glass monolith]

They are "easy". Just to get reward you need to hit yourself in leg with additional risks

[manic oasis]

The last one has such a good skin too but I wasn't strong enough yet

[spark sinew]

they suck

[manic oasis]

Damn

[flint falcon]

basically

we can only see if the 6* changes that

[manic oasis]

Give them a hammer

It worked for Mud

Oh and a fancy dress

Gotta look elsgant when slamming enemies with arts damage

[flint falcon]

that reminds me we haven't had any 6* guy defenders either

[manic oasis]

Women are simply stronger

[flint falcon]

art defender ulpian

[manic oasis]

Point still stands

[flint falcon]

jokes aside AHs has like 0 originium arts assim so probably no

[turbid badge]

u dont need to be infected to use arts

oh wait

assim

[spark sinew]

arts assim is not that

[turbid badge]

yea :deadge

wait for incandensece news

fr gonna be arts trust

[west kraken]

When I saw Damazti caster I kinda got scared lol

Btw, his mechanic is split into 2 chars? And has like 4 stoppers?

Idk what his entire gimmick

I managed to chalter but Im gonna struggle on the other trials if I cant grasp the mechanics

[sterile delta]

splits into a certain number of characters at specific hp thresholds

every time it splits every clone gains 20% phys/arts dmg reduction

every clone is invulnerable if one of them is unidentified

every 20? seconds every clone attacks the most recently deployed/highest taunt ally on the field

[west kraken]

He drains hp mid stopper as well I think?

[sterile delta]

stopper?

[west kraken]

I mean after killing him once

[sterile delta]

oh yea

transition to phase 2

it deals aoe arts damage

that shouldnt be too much of a problem tho if you're running sui squad or if you have an aoe medic

[west kraken]

Im gonna need to look up tutorial since I dont use Sui squad usually

[sterile delta]

oh then you def need a medic

i think an elemental medic works for the version of damazti in trials for navigator

phase 2 every 50-ish seconds it deals massive arts/corruption damage burst to every operator on the field and the four adjacent tiles to every operator

and spawns this hand thing over every operator that deals damage

[west kraken]

You mean wandering medic?

[sterile delta]

yea

tbh tho you could probably get away with using any good medic

preferably one with a burst healing skill

[west kraken]

I mean tbh everyone is just gonna use Ejya alter

[sterile delta]

yea eyjalter made damazti a lot easier

s1lvl7 is probably enough for spectacular trial

oh and last thing at 50% hp in phase 2 it chooses the most isolated operator on the field and permanantly knocks them out for the rest of the battle

so just bait that with something

[foggy grove]

this dazmati version is joever

you don't need medic even

the yan regen is enough

[sterile delta]

coming from h12-4 this damazti version was like a vacation lmao

[west kraken]

Really

...I havent finished chapter 12 lol

So I kinda shit my pants when I saw the new boss

[sterile delta]

eyjalter made it much easier than it used to be

lmao

[foggy grove]

h12-4 gives some people ptsd

[sterile delta]

me

im people

[foggy grove]

[west kraken]

I admit I am slacking off bc I dont like chapter 12

Aka cutting off max dp

[sterile delta]

its a bit cursed yea

i personally loved it but it sucked for a lot of people

[foggy grove]

it's pretty okay,teach common rarity abuse a new way to open stage

[sterile delta]

or ooga booga it with low cost rarity abuse

[cyan gorge]

I like using 4*s anyway so chap 12 mechanics were fun imo

[sterile delta]

my brain is too small for that

every stage shook hands with mountain/mlynar/chongyue/ines

[weak gazelle]

this is fun
when erato handle last 2 boss comfortably

[cyan gorge]

Finally someone else who appreciates Erato

[weak gazelle]

well the bosses are whatever anyway
and they have no sleep immune make thing way easier

[merry narwhal]

with the SP delimiter she just completely breaks both bosses

they literally cannot move

[turbid badge]

yea

cracked

me when not immune

[weak gazelle]

yeah erato s1 with sp delimiter is a chef kiss

[gray stone]

HS ending next reset

I think this is first event to not have any Texas/Yato records

since their release anyway

[polar crane]

[tidal sedge]

Erato with Overcharge limiter, I should've thought of that myself

[tall cairn]

@dark glade TN4 please. does this count.

[dark glade]

Shoo

[tall cairn]

rejected.

[spark sinew]

guys how do i clear TN-4

[scarlet mortar]

guys how do i clear TN-4 ultimate with enemyknights

[tropic valve]

I hear an aciddrop is all you need for TN-4

[scarlet mortar]

not an enemy

[dark glade]

Wait

Which cirno datatzi cluster is this

[tall cairn]

Looks like the balance is disrupted.

[scarlet mortar]

it's still schwarz propaganda, he just wanted to rarity debuff schwarz

[tall cairn]

So Aciddrop is 4*Black.

[dark glade]

If ecko spawn now i will watch his tn-4 vid and clear it

See my summoning circle always fail

[spark sinew]

i watched eckogen's guide on tn-4 and it was bad!

that's how you do it

inb4 he doesn't even have a vid, i don't really watch ak videos

[dark glade]

Why he use bad operator like silverash!?

Like that?

[tall cairn]

[tall cairn]

Does he actually have a tn-4 vid or are you making stuff up.

[dark glade]

He actually has one

Pretty interesting too

Sp with sa

[tall cairn]

Wait so you’ve watched it alr.

[dark glade]

1 sec of the video yes

[tall cairn]

[dark glade]

I dont want to spoil

[tall cairn]

……sure.

[hard willow]

So I'm working on TN-1. How do I kill Pancho? I managed to kill the boat eventually but then he just got out of it and then AOE cleared my entire board and ran to the end.

[scarlet mortar]

you want to stunlock or dunk him in water as much as you can, generally there's no easy way to tank him without brute force

the water slows his aspd enough to help your defender tank properly

avoid letting him kill anyone, he gains aspd from it

if he's abt to kill then retreat the ops

[hard willow]

By dunking him in water do you mean using a puller?

[scarlet mortar]

no, just let him walk into the water

and keep him there

[hard willow]

Ah at this point I don't think I can kill him before he's on his final cycle and never enters the water

[scarlet mortar]

block his ship early

[hard willow]

But if he blocks it he just rams through right?

[scarlet mortar]

you can kill everything else before he gets to your main line

[dark glade]

You need 3 block for boat right?

[scarlet mortar]

mud isn't the tankiest thing, two strong defenders should be able to cycle

[scarlet mortar]

iirc no

[dark glade]

Oh pancho doesnt?

[scarlet mortar]

don't count on my memory for that

[hard willow]

Ah I've only got Mud and E1 Nearl trained for defenders

[dark glade]

Aaah

[scarlet mortar]

guardians aren't meant to tank so rip

[dark glade]

Is this no e2 account?

[hard willow]

Nah I just don't have many

[scarlet mortar]

you basically only have mud then

an E2max mud S3 stalls him solo for the entire stage

[hard willow]

I've only got Silverash, Mudrock and Pramanix at E2.

[dark glade]

Oh the mud is e2

You can block pacho after all other enemies is cleared with mud

[scarlet mortar]

E2 alone should work

[dark glade]

Burst p1 with some caster

And borrow another burst caster to delete his p2

Before mud getting clapped

[hard willow]

Oh he's arts weak that explains it lol

Yeah my arts lineup is not good

[dark glade]

Are you trying to burst p1 with sa?

[scarlet mortar]

idt you should burst p1 ngl

[hard willow]

SA/Mlynar yeah

[dark glade]

Also i dont really remember if hes arts weak or phy weak too

[scarlet mortar]

it's real easy to fuck up p2 and just die

pancho's weak to arts

[hard willow]

But yeah this is pretty my my entire trained caster team

Not really much suited for burst

[scarlet mortar]

CEO SWEEP

[dark glade]

Looks doable still

Ceo slow burst p1

Then mlynar p2 or something

[scarlet mortar]

ngl just stall p1 pancho

i say this when mud is my only defender for my spectacular clear

[dark glade]

[tall cairn]

Oh no wonder you asked for enemyknights.

[scarlet mortar]

dockworker leak

[hard willow]

This can probably get the job done right?

[scarlet mortar]

put levels on mud

skalter S1 is better here i think

your tankiest op is mud so let skalter carry healing her

[hard willow]

Won't she die super fast to the absorb?

[scarlet mortar]

+200% hp

[hard willow]

Wait Mud can't be healed right, isn't that her thing?

[scarlet mortar]

regen bypasses that

[hard willow]

Ohhh

Damn that's super helpful to know

[scarlet mortar]

skalter S1 + mud S3 is nigh unkillable against phys

[hard willow]

Yeah so long as I position those two well I should have this

[spark sinew]

enemyknights is probably one niche where highmore is useful ig if you really cope you can use her in enmity?
seems hard to fit into, considering alternatives

[tall cairn]

This and welfareknights prob.

But welfare is already coping pretty hard.

[spark sinew]

oh i forgot about them

when you remember enmityknights before welfare

[tall cairn]

[hard willow]

So I tried this strategy and it didn't work

I killed the boat and then he AOEs all my damage

I guess maybe the retreat everyone option is my only option but then he slaughters me because all my stuff is gone

[glass monolith]

Aoe has its range limit, issue he is like this close to majority of ranged tiles

[spark sinew]

unrelated but do level your e2s

it's dirt cheap

[hard willow]

Oh it really is

[scarlet mortar]

oh i didn't explain part 2 of that

mb

the idea is to stall p1 until everything's dead, then whittle the boat down to 1hp

then while pancho finally leaves spawn you redeploy everyone for p2

that allows you to have good positioning and not just get murked bc your ops are too far apart

mudrock herself tanks p1 and p2 at different places so you need time to rdp her

it'd also help her regain def

[scarlet mortar]

highmore's the best anti-damazti tank for enmity

[scarlet mortar]

oh yh ftr that implies tanking damazti

which is why she falls off anw in stuff like H12-4

not that enmity cleared H12-4 anw since they're uber shafted in DP

welfare has actual defenders which can be healed, so highmore doesn't have as much value

still good but the better alternative is still rotating bodies

lmao wait, ain't no way

enmity got shafted so hard by DP cap that they got zero damazti records

[foggy grove]

enmity is generally expesnive yeah

most of them is above the dp cap

lol

[scarlet mortar]

didn't even get SE records 💀

[scarlet mortar]

hm actually she might lose still to exfed onskill

exfed would die to p2 damazti but then again everyone does so it's not a good comparison

[civic bear]

not zuole

[scarlet mortar]

yeag exfed probs wins p1 with average luck

[scarlet mortar]

did zuo ratio the H12-4 guard record

[civic bear]

nop

body problem

[scarlet mortar]

thought so

average damazti everything-check

[novel pivot]

Get corroded

[civic bear]

just what happens when u make them deal 80% of atk as corrosion

[glass monolith]

But 3 enmity (or whatever the word) H10-3 was something

[rocky anvil]

What is the target priority for Damazti's skill that replaces them with the clone? I know it prioritizes operators that doesn't have anyone near them, but if there are two or more operators that doesn't have anyone near them, does it target the most recently deployed one, does it target the closest/farthest operator from the original Damazti, or does it pick the target randomly?

[drowsy jewel]

Alone > Last deployed

That's the prio

[rocky anvil]

Ok, so that's why Ling died when I did the TN-2 Orientation Trial recently.

[drowsy jewel]

Ya you need to bait if you only have ling deployed

[rocky anvil]

Yeah, fortunately I still managed to save the run since Damazti is already at very low HP.

Does the extra clone from the TN-2 Spectacular Trial spawn on first phase or second phase?

[tidal sedge]

First

It goes to the lane on the right

[weak gazelle]

yup Erato abuse fun
now tn-4 left to do
laterano and zaaro huh

[vernal lion]

tn-2 not fully completed

[weak gazelle]

i see summoner in the roster
so auto skip

[glass monolith]

Mirror match up, summoner versus summoner of himself, summoner of million blood knives and summoner and skill issue backstabs

[latent monolith]

[glass monolith]

Show me level 45 reward with only first stage of TN-1 clear

[latent monolith]

Time to find a lowstep clear

[gray stone]

should have taken Spot

[jade quail]

Alright help with 4-10

[flint falcon]

which spot r u finding urself stuck on

@jade quail

[jade quail]

Hmm

[spark sinew]

are you confusing the stage with 4-4

[flint falcon]

mb was it not that

[spark sinew]

it's first FN stage

[flint falcon]

ight much easier

[shrewd gust]

👀

[spark sinew]

hit em with good ol borrow exu

[flint falcon]

r u open to borrow

[polar crane]

after the first few game this boss become a joke

[rapid pasture]

wait is exu good for FN? what's her def

[polar crane]

low def high res

[scarlet mortar]

barely 600 iirc

50 res

[spark sinew]

she folds super fast

[rapid pasture]

i think nearl alter also claps FN

[spark sinew]

even on ch6

[rapid pasture]

or any strong physical dealer tbh

[scarlet mortar]

exu wipes the floor with FN every instance she shows up

[shrewd gust]

WTF

[spark sinew]

that's one way i suppose
i think i always redeployed instead

[scarlet mortar]

yh maxed exu

does that

[flint falcon]

i ganged her up w/ thunderers

[scarlet mortar]

https://youtu.be/u9HLfl3z7XY?t=189

[shrewd gust]

I have Exu

[polar crane]

kill her in ch6

ingame ofc

[shrewd gust]

I though she was useless

[scarlet mortar]

exu's very polarizing

[flint falcon]

against high def enemies yeah

[scarlet mortar]

either she does nothing or everything

[flint falcon]

which seem to be the trend these days

[polar crane]

exu is not good in current meta

[scarlet mortar]

low dph but to this day reigns as the holder of the highest total damage ceiling

[scarlet mortar]

doesn't she delete the HS boss's def layers

i vaguely skimmed its traits and it looked like a big arc shieldguard

[polar crane]

so does kalstit or typhon

[shrewd gust]

can someone help me in 9-4

[polar crane]

sure post your squad

[scarlet mortar]

there's been plenty of stack decay or otherwise hitcount-based traits lately

[flint falcon]

and the map too

[scarlet mortar]

i think exu doesn't own them but like, she still works at least

[scarlet mortar]

oh this isn't even CM

hmmge

[polar crane]

I will try with that
one moment

[jade quail]

Ooof

[scarlet mortar]

i mean scene is kinda funny for CM, but besides that

[shrewd gust]

this what is have

[scarlet mortar]

jaye should low diff the casters

[shrewd gust]

yup

[flint falcon]

ch9 and onwards doesn't have cm do they? or was that starting ch 10

only environment

[shrewd gust]

they have cm

i mean ch9

[scarlet mortar]

chapter 10 is where adverse stages begin

[flint falcon]

👌'

[scarlet mortar]

chapter 9 only got story mode retroactively, CMs stayed the same

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1WQ4y1D7YD lmfao it's free

[spark sinew]

i feel like exu isn't quite consistent enough for a lot of them

although obviously works

[scarlet mortar]

yh it's just an escape route in case you really don't have good cc/def pierce/true damage options

pretty obvious that general content hasn't creeped past the 4*s, and therefore can be stomped with 6*s

[spark sinew]

hmm

probably
I'm guessing we don't count h stages as gen content

[shrewd gust]

Damn 💀

[scarlet mortar]

H12 stages still were optimized

H13 uhh idk much yet

[gray stone]

Exalter shilling hours yet

[scarlet mortar]

oh 9op

winnable

[spark sinew]

i mean compare H stages before and h12-4

this shit is clearly way harder

[scarlet mortar]

H12-4 is what i like to call an everything check

[turbid badge]

monomo

[gray stone]

Damazti Cluster is just ass

[scarlet mortar]

you definitely didn't get all the way to it by not levelling people we ignore E1/0 players

[gray stone]

It's one of the rare times Chalter is better than Mlynar marginally

[scarlet mortar]

so instead of having a mono-statcheck you have a lesser check but on more things

[flint falcon]

whats the hardest stage that could be e0/1 ed currently

[scarlet mortar]

range, block, healing, damage/aoe, crowd control, anti-air

lose out on one of those factors and you have to compensate massively

[gray stone]

Positioning

[spark sinew]

I'm pretty sure everything can be cleared with e1

[polar crane]

jt8-3 e0

[scarlet mortar]

H13-4 passed the E1L1 vibe check

not H12-4 doe

skulley

[spark sinew]

e1 max i mean

[polar crane]

arturia ye

[gray stone]

Why does CC matters in H12-4

I feel like it's a non factor

[scarlet mortar]

it's technically a broader term that counts blocking too

snipers can't block for example so they have to suffer

[gray stone]

There is a Sniper only clear

[scarlet mortar]

even while winning in range there's almost nothing they can do to stop damazti from walking slowly

[gray stone]

[scarlet mortar]

yh that's what i'm ref'ing

damazti died a meter in front of the blue box

[spark sinew]

i actually cleared the entire chapter without knowing this
if you overlap the ranges, do you scan faster

[scarlet mortar]

no

[gray stone]

No

[scarlet mortar]

i wish doro would win that hard, but no

[spark sinew]

figures sniperknights sound miserable then

i guess that's just any classknights

[scarlet mortar]

they had to do the clone skip kekw

as is per usual

[gray stone]

Dorothy is pretty cool in H12-1

[scarlet mortar]

guards used the clone skip to optimize to 5op, meanwhile snipers out here using the clone skip to barely clinch it

[gray stone]

Less pressure to kill the Casters

Haven't checked Ch13

I should get there soon for materials

[polar crane]

executor sweep

also arturia

[spark sinew]

because of true damage?

[scarlet mortar]

true, executor sweep

H13-4 specs

[spark sinew]

who'd thought

[polar crane]

[gray stone]

DOROTHY SWEEPS

[scarlet mortar]

no global attack, doro sweep

[polar crane]

aoe true damage

[glass monolith]

4 versus like 14, sounds balanced

[scarlet mortar]

ok but this is funny
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1EQ4y1W7wW

5 years of arknights y'all

ling + exfed

[glass monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHss7YR29YM

[spark sinew]

smh, penance usage

[scarlet mortar]

haha DoT aura go brr

[glass monolith]

DoT aura count as hit toward mudrock S2, and boss is Sarkaz who affected by Mudrock talent, do with this information whatever you want

[balmy jolt]

If you already have Talulah's burning breath

And then you gain status resist

does the breath last full duration?

[tropic valve]

no, it will be half duration

[balmy jolt]

Cool, thanks

[delicate blaze]

Guys can you build me team for annihilation 3 these are all my character

[cyan gorge]

Start by giving Blue poison more levels

[dark glade]

just borrow mlynar

[marsh echo]

what is Anni3 again? is that Lungmen downtown?

[dark glade]

yep

[marsh echo]

[flint falcon]

is there any point in lighting up these lil icons

[dark glade]

only there to trigger your ocd

[marsh echo]

I've never touched that

[flint falcon]

if so its kinda working

[dark glade]

i do light em all up

by clearing the run and taking 15 defender too

[flint falcon]

hows raythean w/o first aid kit

[dark glade]

id say its not the best experience doing aegirian osciloscope without any AH on raythean

[flint falcon]

'

[dark glade]

basically get ines eyja 1st hand or reset

[flint falcon]

i have but gladii n an e1 spector

[peak cloak]

i wont do it if i was you. raise your ops and then u can walk through this annihilation easily.

[spark sinew]

eh the only thing they're missing is a second sniper technically (and even then)

myrtle e2 is horrible but we don't talk about that

could probably just borrow thorns

[marsh echo]

get Platinum

[spark sinew]

what for 🤔

[marsh echo]

Nothing really, just want to see another Platinum

[cosmic thicket]

lame but not that difficult (neither SSS tower is that difficult)

[spark sinew]

raythean without aid kit is pgood

with the kit it's a bit too easy i feel

[cosmic thicket]

maybe

[spark sinew]

horrible

[tall cairn]

Ain’t no way no poly?

[spark sinew]

i can only remember old ops using this stuff
but somehow i manage to run out of this twice in recent times

[cyan gorge]

I had to craft like 10 of those recently

[flint falcon]

im outta candy

waiting for that dv rerun

[cosmic thicket]

i've been generally strapped of poly in the last year

[cyan gorge]

The only reason I haven't completely ran out of poly is cause Rockrock base skill unironically goated

[balmy jolt]

I levelled Plat for the last Dolly map if that cheers you up

[marsh echo]

TN-3 Outstanding Trial
would this work? I've been stuck on the last part

[gray stone]

Ray powercrept Mudrock

[marsh echo]

don't mind the levels

[gray stone]

Probably get Myrtle and Bagpipe out

[marsh echo]

hmm

[brazen lion]

isnt rly dp intensive stage

[gray stone]

Optimize the vanguards out for more units to work with

[brazen lion]

^

[cosmic thicket]

myrtle/bag kind of do very little yeah

[gray stone]

You can probably start out with Thorns and Eyjaberry

Eyjaberry can stay in 1 spot for the entire trial too so

[cosmic thicket]

i went with the rhine squad bc silence and saria are good, astgenne is meh but there's the buff

[marsh echo]

I have bad news

[gray stone]

Actually, they should use the Rhine squad for the free units

and get Eyjaberry out so they can borrow a Pozy

[cosmic thicket]

who's pozy for

[brazen lion]

kill.

[marsh echo]

let me just try one more time, if I still can't finish off the last part I'mma switch

[gray stone]

I think she's good for all Endspeaker spawn camps

[cosmic thicket]

i guess

[marsh echo]

I'll swap vanguards for now

[gray stone]

idk who would you say is more impactful

[cosmic thicket]

i didn't really use her for endspeaker much, more for bishop

i used surtr and horn i think

[cyan gorge]

I had Erato solo both FTT and Endspeaker

[cosmic thicket]

ye erato is also excellent

[cyan gorge]

Yato solos bishop quintus

so the rest is just mob control

[cosmic thicket]

oh lol

[spark sinew]

yeah rhine's saria is pgood i still used Free squad because mine is almost as good

but vanguards gotta go (does thorns do anything in this setup?)

[marsh echo]

on last part, he'd kill the dudes on top left

on first and second he'd hold off this lane

[cosmic thicket]

i think i ended up using ines to hold that lane lol

[marsh echo]

don't got her sadly

[cosmic thicket]

yeah it's a trash mob lane

so anyone with range/block and stats can hold

[marsh echo]

nope just can't burst final part fast enough

[cyan gorge]

Why burst, just Erato afk sleep it forever

[marsh echo]

I don't have the kind of patience for that

[spark sinew]

do you have blem

[marsh echo]

yep

[spark sinew]

just use her to speed it up then

[turbid badge]

use blacknight too

[cyan gorge]

Boss isn't so tanky that Erato can't kill in more than 30 sec

well mine is e2 50 with mod, no masteries

[spark sinew]

blacknight seems like a waste in this comp

[turbid badge]

fair u alrd have all the sleep u need

[spark sinew]

or like
unneeded?

[turbid badge]

her hypno attacks sleep so

speed up sleep

kiling real

[cyan gorge]

Don't think too much about it

[spark sinew]

hypho does so much damage (does not)

oh i thought erato stall just used sp buff

no need for nothing

[cyan gorge]

He's insurance

[marsh echo]

imma be real with you, the only sleep units I have built are Sora, Blem and Blacknight

[cyan gorge]

if i brought Ptilo I probably wouldn't need him

[marsh echo]

[spark sinew]

erato is peak perf at e1 1 sl7

🛌

[cyan gorge]

there's a split second where boss isn't sleep cause aspd limitations

[spark sinew]

ok i remember why mine is unmoduled

despite leveling her and doing a mission

[marsh echo]

finally

managed to do it

had to switch to rhine lab ops

[glass monolith]

Oh right. Cat abuse skin for Stainless is coming too

Time to go 0 pulls and 0 OP at same time, all while i am waiting for coming in never QB, Ling, Franka skins

[turbid badge]

never come cri

[spark sinew]

en doesn't use ncd anyway

[glass monolith]

Yes but owning collab skin with low/no reruns any time soon boost EGO insteasing entertainment to keep playing this game for sake of still farming AP-5

[lethal dragon]

NCD skin is peak

[ornate cliff]

questions about TN. For the yan buff, does it extend to Yan-Lungmen?

[ornate cliff]

for me, it was pray for rng that it didn't eat a powerful buff like lifesteal. Mumu is a god send against him cause the stun kept it busy

[flint falcon]

eating isnt rng based it eat the ones closest to where it last died

also fellow mumu enjoyer 🤝 though my mumu was used on the regular dodge dudes since spawn camping the boss means the blob'd get eaten

[vital arrow]

Yes

[glass monolith]

It extends to god damn Penguin Logistics

[flint falcon]

and swalter's champagnes

[glass monolith]

"Spaghetti is my passion" - HG

[spark sinew]

actually were we supposed to be able to leak zaaro
did they fix it on cn?

[vernal lion]

man I like how I use vg squad in the ultimate challenge, and just play with 99DP Yato s3 everytime with Andoain till dead

funny shit, Pozy got hyper buff from atk module and squad

and still only dealt 705 dmg to Zaaro lmao

[glass monolith]

It is typewriter attack which don't gain either buff

At least I think so

[spark sinew]

is this tile undeployable

[vernal lion]

typewrite doesn't gain any atk buff,
and even with those amounts of atk buff, she still only deals 705 dmg lol

yea

[dark glade]

Idk what happen but 99 dp gg just kill zaaro while he hit the gelato stop

[vernal lion]

I think using vg squad in this ultimate challenge is quite a challenge if you didn't know how to maintain dp well

[spark sinew]

ling squad is so strong i didn't even bother testing other ones

[vernal lion]

dispite the fact that you can use that with atk module, which can give an op +139% atk

[dark glade]

The challenge is stalling/strategic leaking the last mob before transition so you can put your 99 dp carry next wave

After that its smooth sailing

[vernal lion]

you can

I leak the Business

[mint jolt]

Tn3 ulti it's better to leak andoain and the guy that speads dot fire right??

[spark sinew]

personally it's 100% easier to leak zaaro

[mint jolt]

on spectacular i could mitigate the nuke by activating eyja the hvit aska's s3 ( the hp buff)

[dark glade]

I hate andoain more

[glass monolith]

I mitigated nuke by placing trash, retreating trash, then beat shit out of andon

[spark sinew]

nuke doesn't really do damage anyway, on normal ling tanks it
on spectacular just deploy more shit

[mint jolt]

I don't redeploy ling after phase one though

[dark glade]

Btw why event zaaro is harder than tfn zaaro

[mint jolt]

So i should stall and redeploy ling at phase 2 better?

[dark glade]

Is this just because its 1k def and my carry is chalter back there?

[tall cairn]

Zaaro was easy tho?

[glass monolith]

Because we can't leak shit and we need to hold 3 lanes on S stage

[dark glade]

On 1st run it feels like hell

[spark sinew]

zaaro is just shit mechanic

[mint jolt]

Zaaro was easier for me, I just dps the sht out of that wold

[dark glade]

3 lanes zaaro debuff and i cant tank shit

[tall cairn]

The first run is impossible yeah.

[glass monolith]

I liked "Lose stun immunity" part. Allowed me to bring Eunectes S2 for reason

[mint jolt]

Andoain phases was sheet

[tidal sedge]

MuMuless behavior

Amiya very funny vs Zaaro and Ando

[tall cairn]

You had Mumu on Texas event?

[spark sinew]

i just sacrificed ling's dragons

he eventually leaks anyway

and you have enough

[tidal sedge]

For IS proper there was Beanstalk

[mint jolt]

How many dragons to eat andoain nuke?

[vernal lion]

it doesn't use level 1 stat, and mob isn't the higher version (red/blue version) too

[dark glade]

Thats why they hit like wet noodle

The cleaner is not red isnt it

[tall cairn]

Hey.

[dark glade]

Like why e2 hoshi cant tank on event

[tidal sedge]

Cleaner isn't red. But still hurts during blood debt

[dark glade]

When saria can tank 3 in tfn

[glass monolith]

On TN-2 Steam Knight on last difficulty was slightly stronger than H12 one

[spark sinew]

doesn't SA tank on event

although yeah i remember struggling with middle lane when using guardians

[glass monolith]

Zorro stage has lowest enemy ATK across S stages i think
My SA S2 died on half stages to cleaners, 10% ATK made all difference

[tidal sedge]

Even without Beanstalk/MuMu, does Zaaro really live to use bleed more than once for folks?

[spark sinew]

on tn or event... actually does not matter

yes he does

[vernal lion]

you can still bait Zaaro bleed in EX-8 normal but not EX-8 CM (CM = no civis)

[glass monolith]

TfN-4 is cancer

[vernal lion]

also Zarro path is long enough so he can just use bleed regularly

[spark sinew]

second and third team seem strong

[weak gazelle]

Zaaro have bleed?
idr much
even i forgot how andoain gimmick works

[spark sinew]

the buffs are also boring but strong ish "i deal more damage"

[vernal lion]

actually it's called Fear debuff

[tidal sedge]

Zaaro phase 1 inflicts DoT and heavy aspd debuff on 2-3 ops with global range ye

After phase 1 he stops it though

In this TfN phase 1 is pretty simple to kill though.

He sits forever at top left

[weak gazelle]

ohh i see
seem like gamiya role again

[glass monolith]

Also i heard he dot god damn wave 1 towers first

[tidal sedge]

I used Casmiya as he's on a lot of banned melee tiles

[glass monolith]

Which would explain why the F my goldenglow attacks something off screen

[dark glade]

Well 99 dp mlynar kill it near the spawn

[weak gazelle]

banned melee tile huh
casmiya then

[tidal sedge]

Plus Casmiya is nice for killing Andoain too

[dark glade]

Gamiya can prob reach the bottom path no?

[weak gazelle]

5* doesnt have dodge ignore iirc
so true dmg are the way

[vernal lion]

yes

[tidal sedge]

I don't see why you wouldn't just dunk him at his top left wait spot though

[vernal lion]

hyper buffed Melanite

[tidal sedge]

He legit just sits there to die to Amiya s3

[weak gazelle]

yeah that look like a solid plan

melanite buff is....
i want her skill cycle close to ifrit s2 but there no buff capable doing so

i have no issue with her dmg
but every 18s just absurd

[tidal sedge]

It'd have been nice if Melanite s2 had no damage falloff at range or if it had lower cost ye

If Andoain proves to be a pain, I wonder if you'd cope Melanite s1

[weak gazelle]

probably
i will see first what can do in that map
andoain unblockable already an issue

[tidal sedge]

Using Amiya s3 vs both of his phases seems a bit grim on paper too. You have to survive multiple scan attacks

Well. With redeploy reduction limiter maybe that's not so harsh? Unless you're attempting no limiter

[dark glade]

Tfn 4 dolly looks like sl-8 version

No ptsd

[vernal lion]

Pompeii got hyper ranged attack buff is smth

[dark glade]

Just normal occurence in is3

[spark sinew]

except the damage is low

child's play really

[glass monolith]

CC7 boss with 10 tiles range

[shell arch]

Anyone knows how to spawncamp those loggers mf on bottom right corner where mwynaw is standing?

[vernal lion]

Ange s3 + Weedy

[shell arch]

Mwynaw ifrit is not fast enough

Oh yeah ange s3 weedy thanks

[vital arrow]

Cant you just drop mountain there

[vocal leaf]

i use mountain left, right can be any other +20 dp unit

[shell arch]

Not as fast as mwynaw

And mwynaw isn't fast enough

[scarlet mortar]

lmao pluma thorns mud trio

[shell arch]

Holy fuck

My skill issued arse activated s3 weedy to the middle lane logger

[scarlet mortar]

cook less

[vocal leaf]

there’s so many options, you can even throw mud/penance there in time

[shell arch]

I'm trying to figure out who's the fastest to spawncamp that specific logger

Because it's quite tanky

Maybe penans work

Since arts dmg & logger has low res

[scarlet mortar]

ch'en S3

[shell arch]

I was thinking of Chen s3 as well. I'll try it later

[vocal leaf]

she does, i used her before exalter, now i use him instead

[vital arrow]

Try chong s1

[vocal leaf]

i used s3 penance tho

[scarlet mortar]

idt S2 has enough firepower but if you tryhard you can time thrm-ex or sth

box kill ez

[vocal leaf]

you don’t have kaltsit? she’s good for mid box, you can reduce that farming team to 3 units

[scarlet mortar]

i'm not sure whether amigo wants a low op or a speed kill rn

low op is trivial, you can almost just reaper trio it if you're inclined

[vernal lion]

Ling

[scarlet mortar]

ling requires many steps

zzz

[vernal lion]

I'm a brain worker

[shell arch]

I don't have problems in middle lane

Horn sash kill them painless and quick enough

I have problems with bottom right

Also weedy doesn't work because apparently it'll aim middle lane logger first than the one near herself

[shell arch]

Speedkill

I don't have exalter currently

I'll try using chen s3m3 next

[scarlet mortar]

thrm-ex into ch'en

[tall cairn]

Chen s3 gaming.

[scarlet mortar]

[shell arch]

Thermex chen is slow

Like, extremely slow

Chen s3m3 isn't instant active neither

[scarlet mortar]

ch'en S2

[shell arch]

Can she?

[tall cairn]

The tiles don’t work.

[scarlet mortar]

also just time thrm earlier

[tall cairn]

It’s a straight line.

[scarlet mortar]

ch'en S2 also reaches if you face her down or left

[shell arch]

The only problem is whether the logger would die with chen s2m3 when being debuffed with ifrit s2m3 & thermex

[scarlet mortar]

the skill has E1 lord range

[tall cairn]

Oh rly.

Oh it does.

[shell arch]

Also considering my phonetato with 3 seconds per frame, the auto will probably break in some cases

[scarlet mortar]

oh wait

you have ash right

[shell arch]

No

Ash don't even reach the logger

[scarlet mortar]

L

use the better skill
https://youtu.be/-_QjVDsR0-Q

[shell arch]

You need at least fia/aoe sniper range

Wait you can ash it?

[tall cairn]

Tf Ash s3.

[shell arch]

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD

ASH S3 SWEEP

[scarlet mortar]

ash S3 is underrated

peak speedrun skill

[shell arch]

Also wtf balze s3

[tall cairn]

That was a given.

[shell arch]

I'll try the thermex chen ifrit tech first. Thanks

[tall cairn]

trust.

[vernal lion]

the reason why I have m3ed it for anni speedrun

[shell arch]

Wtf you're too dalao for me to relate

🛐

[vernal lion]

if you want it simple, I can just do this in speedrun + low op

[shell arch]

Wait a minute

Can't i just

Fart the logger

[tall cairn]

Does she do enough dmg?

[vernal lion]

yea

[shell arch]

She does like 5.5k dmg per hit

Idk how much hp def does the logger have though

[tall cairn]

Try it.

[shell arch]

No sanity

[tall cairn]

Practice plan.

[shell arch]

I genuinely forgor practice plan is a thing

[tall cairn]

[scarlet mortar]

amigo,

[vernal lion]

@shell arch if you need, I can plan an afk + speedrun for you

not totally can compete with fully speedrun but, it will work well for you

[shell arch]

Nah I'm good

I live by "fuck around and find out"

[glass monolith]

Most cursed and entertaining way of playing single player non competitive strategy game with multiple solution to issues

[shell arch]

Yes until you see my 2nd motto

[glass monolith]

"Fuck that, bring chalter"

[shell arch]

"if fuck around and find out didn't work, time to buy mobile data or steal neighbors' wifi and watch guides"

[glass monolith]

close enough

[last mist]

The dashing mobs are so annoying whats a good way to deal with them

[scarlet mortar]

don't block them

[glass monolith]

Knowing where they come from and kill them

[scarlet mortar]

i see the bot and top lane boxes destroyed

should've prevented that

[glass monolith]

So none of susvilians being revealed still is not on list of thing which feel off?

[scarlet mortar]

clueless emoji

surely they'll get revealed in time

[peak cloak]

dont destroy bottom boxes. focus on mid lane

[lime tinsel]

Do normal and evolved dragons from Ling counts as 1 operator?

or i need to place only operators than summons?

[glass monolith]

That mission is mistranslated shit and you need 7 on end of each wave

[lime tinsel]

gotcha, but anyway

[glass monolith]

Also normally summons don't count for any operator stuff, but in face of already mistranslated condition - God knows

[lime tinsel]

do dragons counts as deployed?

[drowsy jewel]

Think someone already tried but they said it doesn't work

But one way to try

Or if you don't wanna waste time, do that without ling dragoons

So you don't have to worry

[glass monolith]

I did that mission by accident on Ling premade squad because one idiot didn't notice Sigil gained in wave 2 and used operators to spread democracy light

[drowsy jewel]

Happy accidents as they say

[lime tinsel]

So when stage changes i can remove some actual operators and redeploy to another place also?

[glass monolith]

[weak gazelle]

hmm
40% atk buff limiter seem not enough for casmiya solo zaaro p1 at spectacular

granted this one at basic and she barely did it with 30% atk buff

[vernal lion]

is dragon an operator

[glass monolith]

Is translate are consistant?

[lapis hornet]

they take deploy slots pertinent question

[deft badger]

2024 google translate still has errors

chatgpt rocks btw when it comes to translation

[vernal lion]

chatgpt: Exusiai is a guard operator...

[lapis hornet]

chatgpt speaks better english idk about more accurate translation tho

well google translate kinda sucks deepl is good

[deft badger]

really?

[vernal lion]

yea

[deft badger]

w8 wanna see that

[vernal lion]

guess they fixed the module

[dark glade]

Cheetosiai

[deft badger]

i asked it to guide me step by step i guess that's a fail

[silent warren]

referring lumen as she 💀💀💀

[deft badger]

hahahaha i didn't even see that part

[peak cloak]

holy cow, ask gpt to buy me a bourbon bottle😂

[cosmic thicket]

chatgpt is washed

[peak cloak]

😂

[scarlet mortar]

year 1 looking ah

[deft badger]

bro thats the tier list u can find on google

[cosmic thicket]

"top 10 5 stars"

lists 9 6*s and lappland

[deft badger]

ask it who doea more dmg schwarz or mlynar

[scarlet mortar]

true they all got demoted to 5* for year 4

[cosmic thicket]

3.5 doesn't know mlynar kit

you would need GPT 4

[deft badger]

yeah

aint they updating that thing

[cosmic thicket]

I asked it for the best 4*

[peak cloak]

Shamare? healer?

[cosmic thicket]

gravel is also a vanguard

you heard it here first

[polar crane]

[scarlet mortar]

ok that's correct though

- phantom vg user

[cosmic thicket]

I asked it for more

fang alter will be an agent?????

[deft badger]

so to be a better arknights player i need 4.0 one sec let me fix this

[scarlet mortar]

6 accurately predicted texas the omertosa

clueless

[peak cloak]

holy cow, that's a lots of misinformation

[cosmic thicket]

i asked it to beat JT8-3 with the squad, too much to screenshot https://chat.openai.com/share/fd222a98-d7cc-44ad-90db-d6cb663cc0da

[scarlet mortar]

medic shamare pt. 2

[cosmic thicket]

also "what do you mean the boss has weight 6" (idk DBS weight)

[scarlet mortar]

weight 7 or sth

old bosses are usually 7

[deft badger]

why does it thing that gravel is a vanguard

[scarlet mortar]

ngl these tips are so ungodly generic they wouldn't be helpful even if there was no misinfo

like no shit sherlock

"deploy healing bc you might wanna heal"

[cosmic thicket]

wait

[peak cloak]

more? xD

[cosmic thicket]

it just called meteorite vigna shamare and cliffheart boss killers

idk if the link updates

[vernal lion]

ah yes, Gravel is a vanguard indeed

[scarlet mortar]

sarkazknights players would agree

cliffheart kills uhhhhh crownslayer

[peak cloak]

it's staying at fireballs atm

[deft badger]

it doest update

[scarlet mortar]

send it to crow

[deft badger]

would like to see the answer

[cosmic thicket]

https://chat.openai.com/share/fd222a98-d7cc-44ad-90db-d6cb663cc0da updated link

[cosmic thicket]

sent to undusk

[scarlet mortar]

[peak cloak]

uh wait, i think the bot's still following Bigna, Shamare, Meteorite things, try making a new one?

[cosmic thicket]

sure

[peak cloak]

maybe we get different answers

[cosmic thicket]

https://chat.openai.com/share/fd222a98-d7cc-44ad-90db-d6cb663cc0da ok now it's even more deranged

[scarlet mortar]

huh i can't access it

[cosmic thicket]

weird

https://chat.openai.com/share/52a9f59d-1dc4-4ad0-a356-767e8649dc67 try now

[scarlet mortar]

ok works

well that's enough laughing for a day

[gray stone]

ChatGPT #help when

[scarlet mortar]

it might be better than current help

let it cook

for tackling JT8-3

[deft badger]

haahahaha

[cosmic thicket]

https://chat.openai.com/share/f2f04309-f0eb-4614-8994-0ec7e52dd48f indirectly recommends 243 🚮