strategy

[foggy grove]

so it seems

[glass monolith]

Basically by power of friendship all those idiots count

[sick basin]

why texas alter? why penguin logistics gets the buff?

[dark violet]

because they lungmenite

[karmic glade]

penguin logistics is in lungmen

[glass monolith]

Because power of pineapple pizza

[polar crane]

really?

[foggy grove]

why is chiave not there then
he'll love that trash pizza

[jovial nest]

is this the first in TFN an entire map is erased during transition?

[dark violet]

yeah

also the first TFN to not have 4 phases

[jovial nest]

wait

when did we have 4?

oh you mean

[dark violet]

did we not?

[jovial nest]

there's no 4th difficulty in TN-4?

[sick basin]

so yan buff is just people who live there? Not just the faction?

[jovial nest]

there's usually only 3 bosses iirc

2 for the TN-1s

[karmic glade]

taxes alter's faction is penguin logistics, so it is her faction

[sick basin]

Didn't the TN-4 last time have 4 waves?

[jovial nest]

all i remember there was EB>Andoain>Tal

[karmic glade]

like exusiai is not laterano, also penguin logistics faction

[sick basin]

emp blade, martyr, talulah, and someone I can't remember

[glass monolith]

It was those 3 last time

[jovial nest]

there's no someone else

[dark violet]

ah, nevermind, seems like TN2 also had only 3 phases in the last one

[jovial nest]

you know why 4 bosses make no sense?

[foggy grove]

talu is the last

[glass monolith]

I think we had 4 bosses on tn-3 or 2 and some point

[dark violet]

TN1 did have 4 though

[jovial nest]

cause the superbuff is in boss 2

[foggy grove]

i remember because i'm doing janky stuff

[sick basin]

can't remember

I miss the boss rush we had

[jovial nest]

will they have a 2nd superbuff for boss 3 if there's 4 bosses?

there's no 4 bosses

[glass monolith]

Yes

[sick basin]

the one where you fight in 1 arena, patriot, big ugly, crown slayer, and another dude iirc

[dark violet]

the ordeal

[jovial nest]

wait what? I don't remember Mephy

[dark violet]

they decided to put the worst boss to fight as the ultimate buffed boss

[glass monolith]

Buff literally lasts until wave is over what is your reasoning?

[foggy grove]

because you killed mephy too fast with broken kazi

[tropic valve]

I remember fighting those 4

[glass monolith]

It won't stack, it won't apply to last boss, so they can have God damn 10 bosses if they like

[dark violet]

patriot died faster

[foggy grove]

when wildmane doing some real dmg on pat

[jovial nest]

either way i think the point was, if they make 4-boss gauntlets, the solution is just to get as far as possible to unlock the superbuffs for boss 2 and 3

[foggy grove]

you know it's cracked

[dark violet]

kaz squad was so cracked

it made me use fartooth for mandragor

[jovial nest]

very

[sick basin]

I miss this boss rush, ngl

[jovial nest]

well thats just vigilo

[dark violet]

[jovial nest]

you do know boss rushes are easier if there's only 1 map

cause it's easier to setup the longer it goes

so TfN is quite a nice design on how to stop that issue a bit

[sick basin]

true

also ch'en is on the list, but not ch'alter

that is funny

[void terrace]

Challenge: leave Ines sword in left most tile of first map and use it to kill zaro in last map

[foggy grove]

chalter is ri

[void terrace]

I thought the whole buff just worked around faction? So all great yan ops

And not lungmen ops since it's a diff faction

[dark violet]

wait you can let bosses leak?

I'm too formatted to never leak anything

doesn't that make it piss easy if you can just leak stuff

[sick basin]

Leaking

[karmic glade]

yeah, but only in TN-4, they deal 1 2 3 damage respectively

[drowsy jewel]

In the other stage you can't leak bosses

[dark violet]

ah

[drowsy jewel]

You die

[dark violet]

kinda weird

[sick basin]

should I build mullberry?

[jovial nest]

Oh it's not total deletion. There's 2 usable tiles

[drowsy jewel]

Do you have honey already or even better eyja?

[sick basin]

I already hav honeyberry that's why?

[clever kernel]

wha

[sick basin]

Honeyberry is already built at e2l56

[drowsy jewel]

Honey is enough, no need to build mul, don't think there's even any upcoming content needing elem healing much less 2

[sick basin]

and eyja at e2l42

[clever kernel]

oh

i mean

if you like her then sure

you do you

i raised her and she do be funni

[karmic glade]

if you already have eyja alter you have basically deleted all need for other wandering medic

[clever kernel]

worse than eyja rn tho, so havent touched her since

[dark violet]

mulberry is great e2 for base

[drowsy jewel]

This pretty much, eyjaalt makes the other wandering irrelevant

[dark violet]

except in base, you want all of them

[drowsy jewel]

Daz only for exodia

[dark violet]

worth it though

[void terrace]

Eyja alt and silence alt can chain their skills very nicely to provide a veeeery long duration of high healing

Gonna burn my data blocks on silence alts module for that sweet 10% hp

[timid schooner]

almost not using dusk run

that red glass kill mah ling wah

[void terrace]

Then my pennance gonna have permanent +32% HP from nian silence and eyja

[sick basin]

texas is the only yan vanguard

[void terrace]

Texas is penguin logistics faction tho

Does it count?

[foggy grove]

i went blind and surprised seeing dazmati

even more surprised he deals no actual harm

[karmic glade]

it deals 8x less elemental damage than H12-4, so weak

[dark violet]

scarred from H12

[foggy grove]

fr

[dark violet]

there's only 3 and it deals no dmg?

who is that

tn 1 was the hardest

[sick basin]

@void terrace according to this, yeah, she counts

[dark violet]

mandragora was just torture

[timid schooner]

whoops i mean u guys think that this boss rush season is easier than last season right

[void terrace]

Ooh so it's by that map

Interesting

[timid schooner]

ye

[dark violet]

yeah, it's gone 1 > 2 > 3

[foggy grove]

i did funi thing to mandra

hitting her with gg and typewriter

[timid schooner]

lmao

[dark violet]

imagine having either

i used fartooth and tears

[foggy grove]

with that sp regen device

[dark violet]

oh, actually I found it back https://youtu.be/MtEjcD84OXs
it was a big pain but kaz squad cracked

[jovial nest]

oh yeah....back to flagbearers for TN-4

[winter dirge]

guys, i'm probably missing something but there is a mission asking for " Activate [Overcharge] and complete any Spectacular Trial with a total of 10 or more operators moving to the next wave without retreating " but ... there is only 9 deployment slots on every map and " Overcharge " doesn't give any, so how am i supposed to deploy 10 operators at the same time if my deployment limit is only 9 ? 🤔

[foggy grove]

it's cumulative

or you can cheat with robot/ntr too

[dark violet]

it says total

[winter dirge]

oh yeah robots

[karmic glade]

You can even do it in multiple run

[winter dirge]

oh lol it's cumulative

ok ok i was wondering how it is possible that i didn't get it already but probably because i didn't used [overcharge] in most runs

thank you guys

[sick basin]

rate my setup

[jovial nest]

oh thank you Andoain. I can now permanently stall until ready

and this is with Flag buff

Overcharge + Flag buff is way too hilarious

time for Ult trial

[winter dirge]

it worked 👍

[glass monolith]

TN-4 Fire can't hurt tower which is off screen... WHICH DOESNT STOP GOLDENGLOW AT FUCKING ALL

[glass monolith]

Woof is not ready

[sick basin]

just did tn3 blind

OH FUCK ITS SEABORN

[glass monolith]

"just did" or about to?

[jovial nest]

ok...i need to get this Andoain clear at least for Ult

i need the buff

he got such toxic buffs

[dark violet]

what do you mean by buffs

I don't remember buffs for TN

[jovial nest]

ult buffs.

[glass monolith]

I recall he just fart more

[dark violet]

the extra stats and CM modifs?

[jovial nest]

his sweep attacks hurt bad. I think I need to use the 1st Closure app

for sanctuary

[glass monolith]

Better than pervious TfN when he got extra damage reduction and dodge granted by field

[jovial nest]

I prefer that

[dark violet]

hell nah

[jovial nest]

its easier to solve that

than being wiped

[dark violet]

does he target 10 ops?

[sick basin]

I mean my reaction to blind run

[jovial nest]

ok yeah

i need the sanctuary closure app

wait no. It's pointless haha. They need to stick to get Sanctuary buffs

I think its time i stop using flag buffs

[dark violet]

you use the meta trifecta right?

should be pretty easy

[jovial nest]

it's actually hurting a lot more due to how much it eats DP when the flags are dead

[dark violet]

I saw someone clear the ultimate trial with 11 moves

[jovial nest]

yeah this is a lot more doable compared to how i felt with Mud>Man>SK

[fluid fulcrum]

does anyone have an M3 pozy that i can borrow ? id is Zero#95941

[sick basin]

Alright which ops get the rhine land buf in tn3?

[dark violet]

dorothy

[sick basin]

who?

[dark violet]

god

[sick basin]

I forgot her

[void terrace]

I just kept capturing the towers with texalter and throwing Ines and other ops in his line of fire

[dark violet]

the blessing of revelation

[sick basin]

ah wait, that's why

too bad I didn't take a picture

[void terrace]

I kept the squishy healers on the far right tiles

[sick basin]

because I now completely forgot her

[void terrace]

Rip

[dark violet]

she's been the most fun operator for a year now

[sick basin]

but jokes aside, like this list, which rhine ops get buffs from tn3?

[dark violet]

astgenne saria ifrit silence magallan dorothy

[karmic glade]

https://prts.wiki/w/干员一览#?force=1-莱茵生命

[dark violet]

oh oops, I forgot about mayer yeah

[sick basin]

Thank you

no ho'ol

hehe

[jovial nest]

finally. i get to clear Ando in ult. I can use the superbuff so my formation for Zarro isn't complete ass. I failed my farthest attempt in ult just because Ando farted in Zarro's most idle spot

[karmic glade]

Zarro target 3 ops with it's bleed in ultimate, so you may need more fast redeploy

I guess you could also cycle flag vanguard

[jovial nest]

the problem with the flag buffs is, it is really forcing you to drop any VG without followups

its kinda bad once stats go way high

at least this is a nice...crutch

[karmic glade]

hmm, after reading prts I got a funny strat, apparently zarro are silenced until all bleeding ops are dead, and I bet you can heal up justice knight pretty well because bleed scale on max HP

[jovial nest]

finally

with the superbuff for map 2, not even ult Ando can spread his farts to Zarro's area

wow geez that DoT

[karmic glade]

haha, this do work

[void terrace]

Heh

Texas and Ines can soak two of them

And they fit nicely on any team

If your going flagbearers perhaps use cool down and throw them into the meat grinder?

[karmic glade]

oh wait it is not unlimited duration, prts is wrong about this

[glass monolith]

It is unlimited, you purge it by kicking wolf butt

Show me full HP woof or didn't happen

[karmic glade]

oh, so thats why, still need 3 ops to tank than, no big difference

bascially extend the cooldown for that skill

[glass monolith]

Meanwhile i just had Goldenglow shoot woof in face with +3 SP squad buff

Outside times when she was ATTACKING WAVE 1 TOWER

[jovial nest]

Welp. It took 2nd map superbuff and some leaks. But ult TN-4 is beaten without me using any non-faves.

it's hilarious that the DoT is the worst he does. His phase 2 is weaker by a lot since he doesn't do it anymore

[glass monolith]

Also - Was him attacking so fast phase 2 don't even move always part of kit or it is part of TfN bs?

[jovial nest]

he was always like that

if he has a target around his range

he attacks fast enough that he barely moves

its easy to abuse this

keeping him in that tile longer

[glass monolith]

I ask because i never knew what his phase 2 was. I always used Eunectes to cheese

[jovial nest]

i was still trust farming back in IS

so i knew my clear was being delayed if someone is in his range

[glass monolith]

I was farming rock

[jovial nest]

since he barely walks

welp I'm done with this TfN. Both 2 medals and cleared the entire milestone

Zarro's DoT was something else

but I feel like Mudrock>Manfred>Steam Knight was still worse

just because of how much Mudrock's map requires some immediate solutions

on 2 different lanes

and TW tower progress

[glass monolith]

Zarro: Tries to apply dot
Goldenglow: How about no

[karmic glade]

invis steam knight is the worst idea ever, but now ines is a thing it might not be that bad

[vocal leaf]

i agree, especially with glasglow gang this time with sui dragons we got a real help

[glass monolith]

#strategy message

[rain leaf]

how do i beat LS-5 without cuora?

[waxen swan]

How new are you

[foggy grove]

why do you need cuora

[rain leaf]

lvl 38

[karmic steppe]

Gavial

[rain leaf]

gavial isnt raised for me

[karmic steppe]

From support

[rain leaf]

i have perfumer and eyjaberry

[polar crane]

I want to say farm sk-4 and build base so you get exp passive income without ever touching LS-5

[rain leaf]

do i need to bring a support gavial?

[polar crane]

[karmic steppe]

I mean gavalter, mb

[rain leaf]

i also have whisperain as another medic option

[jovial nest]

it wasn't just that. It was because Manfred is toxic enough to share ch10's gimmick onto Steam Knight's map

[rain leaf]

is there like an easy way to clear ls5

[novel musk]

are u following kyostinv's guide

[rain leaf]

i tried but no cuora

cant do with liskarm instead

[foggy grove]

you don't need cuora

[rain leaf]

the armored guy leaks

cant 3 star

[foggy grove]

just use caster to helps killing them instead of blocking all of them

you don't have to copy everything to a tee

[novel musk]

have u tried liskarm 2nd skill

it hits quite hard tbh

[rain leaf]

i dont have her elited yet but i can try

i have been wasting a lot of my sanity on like

raising skills

actually wait i have just enough to elite 1 her

bless

[foggy grove]

what do you have even
what's your other 6*

[novel musk]

wait wait why dont u send the ops u have for now

before u waste ur resources or anything

noo its too late T_T

well hopefully he clears it lol

[rain leaf]

i have like

wait ill send it since i have new stuff now

[polar crane]

I didn't touch ls5 until recently after 2 years of playing lol

just rush base and exp problem is no more

[rain leaf]

i wanna do LS 6

i heard it was easier than ls5

and i need like

sanity dump

[polar crane]

dump sanity in event stage

[foggy grove]

fr

[polar crane]

also chip or book in dead week

ls-6 or ce-6 never worth it

[royal delta]

Event stage you need to farm like 60 sanity worth of for this one tho

[novel musk]

i farm 1-7

[jovial nest]

yeah, make your base good = LS and CE rewards starts looking like complete waste of sanity

[polar crane]

I farm 10-6

[gusty fiber]

whats up with this, endspeaker is below eyja top right

[foggy grove]

he has e2 myrtle

[novel musk]

u can try using eyjalter as ur only medic i think shes strong enough

then using the extra slot for the extra block

[rain leaf]

i tried but i think shes not enough

[foggy grove]

and barely raised anyone else

[gusty fiber]

does endspeaker always go for reefbreaker for the last one ?

[polar crane]

if you stack 2 buff into 1 tile he ofc want to eat that

[cosmic thicket]

he goes for closest relic to him

[jovial nest]

the inclusion of the recycle box is....sadistic heh

[gusty fiber]

yeah but the thing is, its not the closest 💀

[jovial nest]

its a nice idea

[cosmic thicket]

wdym

[novel musk]

have u tried using gg to solo all the drones

[glass monolith]

Get trolled by 2.5D point of view

[rain leaf]

not elite 2 :c

i dont have caster dualchip

[gusty fiber]

first pic vs second pic

[novel musk]

her second skill has expanded range might be enough

[cosmic thicket]

does endspeaker eat 1 or 2 here i don't know

[foggy grove]

you don't need e2 for that stage lmao

[glass monolith]

Shouldn't have cut second pic

[foggy grove]

the problem is your other unit is so unederleveled

[gusty fiber]

its dead at specter

[novel musk]

i used to think this was a roadblock until i saw elite 0 lvl 1 no pots clears of the hardest stages

[gusty fiber]

idk, so should I just assume it will go for reefbreaker

[glass monolith]

It is not Spectacular, right?

[gusty fiber]

no its the first level

[foggy grove]

yeas they also mald real hard with frame so

[glass monolith]

OHHHH i think i know. boss focus stacked on same tile buffs over closest

[jovial nest]

2 normally. iirc 3 in spectacular

[gusty fiber]

real funky, it switched just as reefbreaker died

[jovial nest]

he was eating so many relics in spectacular

[novel musk]

yeah but hey its possible so

[polar crane]

yes

[gusty fiber]

🤔 but the same situation happened on phase 1, so I dont get why it switched up on phase 3 all the sudden

[royal delta]

Endspeaker is such a weird boss, he has 4 phases and only phase 2 does anything, but boy howdy does it do things

[foggy grove]

that's not really an argument
just because they can doesn't mean you can

[gusty fiber]

oh well, I guess I'll try not stacking, and worst case senario I'll just fight it with reefbreaker buff. thanks guys.

[novel musk]

[void terrace]

Surtr would beg to defer

[novel musk]

@rain leaf so u managed to do it?

[rain leaf]

nop

0 damages

[jovial nest]

try p6 Surtr against phase 2. Phase 2's stun is just so goddamn strong that Surtr barely nukes that phase

[rain leaf]

she just dies to random shit

[jovial nest]

it is indeed the most annoying phase

makes them so goddamn tanky

and easy to stun anyone

i even went so far as to use Tex2 and Ya2 as aggro so Surtr nukes more

[glass monolith]

50% dodge when enemy has it in nutshell

[rain leaf]

i think im just gonna do the base thing

i cba

[void terrace]

Someone needs a p6 surtur?

[royal delta]

Yeah when I did it he almost got to the endpoint, killed most of my ops, and I thought p3 or p4 would do me in

And then he spent p3 and p4 just utterly failing to kill hoshiguma (admittedly with eyja alter healing her)

[jovial nest]

I'm saying I did that

[void terrace]

Saria and surtur destroyed it

Ay same

Mines p6 too

[jovial nest]

so the thing about that is

Maybe its because where I fought P2 was less than ideal

but i wanna kill as many phases before it reaches my main death zone

[novel musk]

yeah thats probably better but it takes some time tho

[rain leaf]

yeah waiting for drones to recharge is despair

[halcyon adder]

So I have this bug where everytime I clear a stage,I can't go back. The buttons don't work. Is it my phone issue or something else?

[jovial nest]

have you tried quitting out and opening the app again?

or if that don't work

restart your entire phone

[foggy grove]

i've heard that problem a lot

[halcyon adder]

That does work

[foggy grove]

freezing on tfn

[halcyon adder]

But it's annoying

Anyways looks like I don't need to kill the wolf

It takes only three lives

[wild root]

I am not sure if I am stupid or something else is the problem but I can't seem to clear the mission that tells me to use the Strategy Expansion and have 7 operators deployed

I just did two spectacular trials with the thing equipped and even 9 operators on the field and still didn't get it

[jovial nest]

oh about that

i had the same issue

try to....

do it when the map's doing the transition

[latent monolith]

PRTS says it should be at the end of each wave

[jovial nest]

for some reason it's that specific

[latent monolith]

just not the end

[jovial nest]

and they didn't word it in the mission table

[latent monolith]

internkun screwed up translation

[wild root]

ooooooh

[latent monolith]

if google is to be believed

[wild root]

well that would probably explain it

[empty hawk]

Isn't it 10 ops

[glass monolith]

FUCK

40 skills task is for second difficulty only. And fucking "have 2 medics on third difficulty" don't count silence in premade squad

[quaint crescent]

how to beat tn1

[void terrace]

99dp Chen s3

[cold sphinx]

okay so the boss in Tn1 oneshot my gummy/saria in second form wut do i do

[waxen swan]

Watch yt

[cold sphinx]

yt use E2 Cuora which I don t have

[waxen swan]

Than get one

Tn is not for beginner

[glass monolith]

TfN is when i can rarity abuse and feel no shame because they took away 3 squad slots from me

[waxen swan]

Excuse

[scarlet mortar]

good ol TfN#1 days when those three squad slots carried

[waxen swan]

Was non of thoes like garbage?

[scarlet mortar]

the buffs they got worked out

iirc all three trial squads beat their respective trials

[waxen swan]

What about monthly squad

[scarlet mortar]

uhhh what monthly squad

[waxen swan]

Is monthly squad

[scarlet mortar]

only IS#2 has a monthly "squad" i.e. 3 ops

IS3 each month gave you one fixed op and two custom ones

[waxen swan]

Oh yeah

[scarlet mortar]

the first two IS2 monthlies? iirc has a good shot of not needing anyone else

[waxen swan]

You remember the abc squad

[scarlet mortar]

that squad would eat the asphalt

[waxen swan]

[timid acorn]

Yeah, and the kazimierz preset was even strong enough to do ultimate TN-4 by themselves

[foggy grove]

but do you remember carne squad

[scarlet mortar]

kazi moment

[foggy grove]

i'll take abc any times

[waxen swan]

What was carne ?

[scarlet mortar]

carne squad wasn't downright awful

nearl carne earthspirit

[foggy grove]

they have no dmg

you have to draft one

[waxen swan]

Bruh they expect carne to carry

[scarlet mortar]

ngl you can just get one voucher and that squad's kinda usable anyhow

any voucher

i'm used to scuff

[waxen swan]

The ceobe one kinda okay with ceobe

[scarlet mortar]

opener issue

[waxen swan]

Sesa god awful tho

[scarlet mortar]

ceobe vulcan sesa what the fuck is a DP

[foggy grove]

we have vulcan?

[waxen swan]

Dur nar not vulkan

[scarlet mortar]

oh right

still

20+ DP

[waxen swan]

Dur nar performed something

Unlike vulkan

[scarlet mortar]

i mean vulcan wouldn't be bad for later

just that the first couple stages would be god awful without a reliable opener

[waxen swan]

Yeah ceobe s1 opener on early is scuff as hell

I dont even remember what sesa do

[scarlet mortar]

benched on release

oh yh he's mildly useful for that tetris reskin stage

but that's all

[waxen swan]

I dont even remember that

[scarlet mortar]

five columns

two blue boxes in the bottom corners

[waxen swan]

Oh the lance one ?

[scarlet mortar]

no the f3 one

the lancer one is pinball

[waxen swan]

Yeah i dont remember

I play is2 last year

Because i completed everything

[scarlet mortar]

both tetris and pinball were reskins from IS1

[waxen swan]

I barely play is1

I just play for the reward and dip

[scarlet mortar]

smh you missed out on scuff

the premium experience, starting a run with three medic vouchers

[void terrace]

Damn

[waxen swan]

Wasn't kal not released yet at that time

[scarlet mortar]

she was not

enjoy

[waxen swan]

Peak is gameplay

[scarlet mortar]

(basically IS1 is locked into the random squad and it has zero filters)

[waxen swan]

They should bring it back just to spite on us

[modern plover]

the mission in tfn where it requires at least 7 op deployed simultaneously
does it mean redeploy everyone or something?

or no redeploy

[glass monolith]

Map ends while 7 operators on map

[modern plover]

did that and not counted

[glass monolith]

Or something liek that don't know got it randomly while fooling around

Right difficulty? Righit kit?

#strategy message TfN good at fucking you over with conditions

[manic pawn]

for someone who used this strat on TN-1, will it work on TN-1 third challenge with buffed bosses?

[timid acorn]

It should, the title says it's for the second and third difficulty

[manic pawn]

not worked for me

[latent monolith]

just add a couple more ops, maybe the ling isn't maxed so it doesn't work

[manic pawn]

yeah, i try to adjust, cant kill first boss first stage in time

[latent monolith]

just throw in something like thrmex or even someone more significant like suzu or skalter

If it's boss kill speed then adding thrm-ex should help

[manic pawn]

i became so lazy after following video guides, that i cant adjust strats

[latent monolith]

Although with the condition you would eat dp

[manic pawn]

kroos > trex, managed to kill first stage in time

[dark violet]

bruh, the yan squad is just absurd

I'm doing random stuff and it works

literal ball of death in my TD

[glass monolith]

God dammit you peaked on this chat "who counts toward squad" and brought only them, aren't you?

[dark violet]

yea

I brought the ones that were e2 at least

it feels like every operator becomes AH

anyway, damazti cluster is gone, the rest will be easy

[turbid badge]

YAN SQUAD?

AYO

lemme hopo n

[dark violet]

yeah, it's way too broken

[turbid badge]

texas looking threw the screenp

[glass monolith]

Mostly becuase Yan is too thicc

[dark violet]

chonky dragons

[glass monolith]

Sui, just Yan, LGB, Couriers

[dark violet]

I still remember the laterano squad and how sad it felt

time to see how balanced the rhine squad is

finally dorothy can have infinite mines

[vernal lion]

it's not really Yan squad, it's Sui squad

[dark violet]

no, it's yan squad

every yan matters

[vernal lion]

for Yan mission, you have to do with these op

[dark violet]

there's more

[vernal lion]

try it, dude

Ling is NOT a Yan op

[dark violet]

all those ops, except higashi, count for the squad

[vernal lion]

the same with Sui op

[glass monolith]

Ling is. Dragon isn't

I tried myself, Penguin Logistics count, just check Texas HP before deploying, deploy and then again, she will gain max HP from Yan buff

[vernal lion]

it said Yan operator, not Sui operator

deal with it

[dark violet]

it's like nitpicking that Pinus operators don't count as kazimierz

[turbid badge]

no?

[vernal lion]

it's different faction tho

Sui is Sui, Yan is Yan

[dark violet]

feel free to disagree with the game

I'm not the one choosing

[turbid badge]

it works with Lee?

[vernal lion]

yes, Lee is in Yan country

and he's Yanese

[dark violet]

yes

[vernal lion]

but, Ling isn't Yanese

or Sui isn't Yanese

[turbid badge]

have u even tried it

[vernal lion]

yes

[turbid badge]

killed boss with sui

ima try lee

[vernal lion]

I let my Dusk kill every boss, but it doesn't work

[dark violet]

ah yes, let's make a squad that doesn't work with itself

[turbid badge]

Oh i did

my lee just killed Tola

[turbid badge]

oh

[vernal lion]

Idk tho

[dark violet]

they're not yan after all, they're sui

[vernal lion]

is it a bug

[cosmic thicket]

wdym it does work

[turbid badge]

What if freeling stole kill

[dark violet]

I feel like I've gone insane

[cosmic thicket]

deploying any of them/ling summons increases max hp

[turbid badge]

i freeling syalled Tola

[vernal lion]

I mean, it's really weird

[turbid badge]

for 60 secs

[vernal lion]

I tried with Sui, and it all didn't work

[cosmic thicket]

weird

i think i only added like chongyue and got it first try

every other op not sui/yan

[vernal lion]

I tried with Wild Chimes only once, and it just worked tho

[turbid badge]

Lee detective Agency, Sui

[dark violet]

I just grabbed every op from the yan faction and it worked, didn't think about it

[turbid badge]

me rn lol

[dark violet]

xiao hei is yan?

[turbid badge]

Ye

This is floor 1

[vernal lion]

I mean I don't say that Sui isn't in Yan

[dark violet]

I see

[turbid badge]

need to reach floor 2

difficulty 2*

[vernal lion]

I just say Sui isn't Yanese

[dark violet]

don't worry, yan squad is so broken even spectacular is easy

[vernal lion]

but the game say it's Yan operator

[dark violet]

how isn't it?

[glass monolith]

We get it your mission didn't count BECAUSE TfN MISSION TRIGGERS ARE SHIT

[dark violet]

they're all in yan

[vernal lion]

because Sui is sub faction

[dark violet]

isn't that an argument against your point

a sub faction means it's part of a main faction

[dark violet]

yeah, sui is also yan, it just said it

[vernal lion]

I don't deny the fact that they are not in Yan, but they aren't Yanese

[dark violet]

[vernal lion]

for example, if a Chinese ppl lives in America, do you call them an American?

[turbid badge]

idk what u guys talking about but kazi talents work for pinus

[dark violet]

if they live there, yes

chinese american

[turbid badge]

and there under pinus synthes

knoght club

[dark violet]

that's a checkmate, like fr

[turbid badge]

If sui kill didnt affect misson than it could be a bug or smth

Ill check it oht

[vernal lion]

yea, but it's kinda weird, because it's not like this is the first time

do you remember some mission of TfN from past

that they are also weird to complete

[dark violet]

never got tfn mission issues tbh

maybe you just got a non yan kill steal

hopefully you did that in the dif 2 mission

[vernal lion]

I mean, this clearly say it out, and I don't complain about it

but for the Yan mission, I have retried it many times, but it didn't work,
and I just used Wild Chimes for once, and it's just done

[dark violet]

anyway, I have TN3 to do, you're more difficult than the TfN event

[glass monolith]

Because fuck those tasks, grind TN-1 on baby mode till lvl 45 is a way

[vernal lion]

ALSO, the og Ch'en didn't work too

[dark violet]

she did

[vernal lion]

even I know she's an Yanese

[turbid badge]

og chen is lungmen

[dark violet]

lungmen is also yan

[turbid badge]

No?

[dark violet]

I'm going insane

[turbid badge]

chen counts in the squad?

[dark violet]

yes

I used her

[turbid badge]

wtf

[dark violet]

penguin logistics too

[turbid badge]

wtf

included everything

[dark violet]

taxes is also working

[turbid badge]

inside yan

[dark violet]

for some reason she counts as penguin logistics and not siracusa

which makes sense I guess

[turbid badge]

which one

[dark violet]

but it's funny

[turbid badge]

alter?

[dark violet]

both

[turbid badge]

oh

damn lungmen works i thought itll only apply to yan specifically

[dark violet]

that's because lungmen is also part of yan

[vernal lion]

I let my Ch'en finish all the bosses, in orien TN-2, and it didn't work

it's fucking weird tho

[turbid badge]

i can record

the misson

ima do it soon

[dark violet]

go full yan and say goodbye to difficulty

[vernal lion]

tbh I also complain about the current bug too

[dark violet]

the menu freeze sucks yeah

[turbid badge]

anyways windchimes is OP

[dark violet]

I don't have her 🥲

I wish I had invested in muesli now, won't be able to use her for rhine squad

[sick basin]

Why didn't this finish? I got the right perk and made all my ops deployed after killing big ugly

[vernal lion]

do you do it in Spectacular mode

[sick basin]

ye

[vernal lion]

I did it fine

[vernal lion]

you should check the module too

[dark violet]

did you have the right one enabled

I did it with the yan squad

[dark violet]

it's the obvious one to do, you don't have to try

[sick basin]

I picked tn1 because it was faster

[dark violet]

well, doing it while progressing means you don't have to redo the battle

[vernal lion]

do you deploy enough 7 op on the field

[dark violet]

I like doing each trial with a different one, so the missions are completed from doing all the trials

hopefully this will go fine

[sick basin]

I deployed all my ops like when big ugly was still running around

[vernal lion]

that's weird

[sick basin]

I'll run it again and see if it change

[vernal lion]

can you try to deploy enough 7 op before changing phase?

then again deploy 7 op before the game finishes

[sick basin]

still nothing

[sick basin]

hmm

[glass monolith]

Mission detection is TRASH

Also mission in question is have 7 operators when Trial ends, not when it shifts

And you need to win trials, losing trials won't do

And get fucked if you do orientation mission in spectacular

[sick basin]

won them obv

[glass monolith]

And get fucked if you try to do 2 medics mission with Rat Lab squad, it didn't count Silence toward having 2 medics for me

And Ling Dragon and Dusk dragon are not operator

[sick basin]

ye

did anyone unlock it? If so, how?

[glass monolith]

99% of my unlocks were blind and by accident

[dark violet]

unlock which

[sick basin]

this

[glass monolith]

I had experience of telling "Fuck tasks" and replaying one of easiest TN's till reward cap on TfN-1 and 2

[sick basin]

because finishing with this didn't work

[dark violet]

I just did yeah

yan squad, spammed all of them

[turbid badge]

idk if this will work

hmm

They killed the other clone

ok oriention lets go

[dark violet]

ugh, I hate the dodgers

I let it spread on the third map

[glass monolith]

I brought Tex2 S1 to shut all pissers

[dark violet]

I'm dumb

I should use dorothy s2

physical to kill the spreaders, and bind for the shits

isn't dorothy amazing

she can solve all my problems

except invis reveal

[glass monolith]

(block +1 device in SN event )

[dark violet]

ok, ifrit is garbage here

I'll get honeyberry and call it a day

maybe eyjalter would be better, mmh

[glass monolith]

For me MVP of this TfN was Goldenglow + SP buff

Experience of having that new male guard CN having fun with atm

[sick basin]

GG + SP buff + Flag vanguard 99 dp buff made it easy

[dark violet]

rhine squad is so garbage

[glass monolith]

40 fucking skill activation on Oriented.
But i did it on Special butthurt because i didn't read

[dark violet]

tbh with dorothy I didn't even bother thinking about it

it auto completes

oh wait, I'm doing a play, I can leak the shitty mobs so the boss doesn't get the buffs

lesgo

finally cleared spectacular

rhine squad is disappointing

time for wolfy spanking

[soft crystal]

Rhine squad sucks cause

Who even is in rhine labs who cqn abuse the limiter

[cosmic thicket]

Dorothy?

[soft crystal]

Dorothy with what mines

[cosmic thicket]

any

[soft crystal]

Youll overcap

[cosmic thicket]

bc skill is gaining a mine

[soft crystal]

Better just ignore and have an easier time with texas gnosis lapp

Theres also not enough mob density to make mines worth that much

[cosmic thicket]

doesn't S2 do single target bind

[soft crystal]

Yeah

[cosmic thicket]

so ur chilling no?

[soft crystal]

Not really a lot of the boss pathways for wave 3 is blocked

[quick pecan]

why is astgenne using s1

[cosmic thicket]

but like the other 2 waves

[soft crystal]

You will still need damage

[cosmic thicket]

that's fine

u have like

6 other slots

[soft crystal]

You cant hit quintus

[cosmic thicket]

dorothy autos are strong

[soft crystal]

Mobs have to step on the mines

Sure, but theres far stronger options

Exalter and Mlynar just sweeps quintus under a min

[cosmic thicket]

sure

pozy as well which you would consider bringing anyway for dodge guys

[soft crystal]

Texas better for dealing with those

Tex gnosis makes the mobs easy

[quick pecan]

damn they don’t include chong in this

[soft crystal]

I think trying to force an rRhine comp in tn3 is a trap

[cosmic thicket]

yeah don't force rhine

[soft crystal]

Just bring your own

[cosmic thicket]

like 3 original + dorothy is enough

[soft crystal]

[cosmic thicket]

and fill last 6 with whatever

[quick pecan]

yeah i have mine i’m just saying rip non chong havers

[soft crystal]

Chongus at least is great for tn2

[cosmic thicket]

he's cool but you have blue woman to hold every lane so lol

[soft crystal]

Chongus is there so it doesnt take forever

[cosmic thicket]

the more noteworthy laneholder is exec alter imo

shits on the blades in 2nd stage and damatzi clones in 3rd

[dark violet]

I'm just gonna abuse the game

+77% atk dorothy and skalter

[soft crystal]

Yeah exalter amazing

[dark violet]

leak the boss so it's piss easy

+75% atk perfumer and skalter tanking endless boss barrage, but I know it won't work for higher

[glass monolith]

Because all enemies has too much def or walk in pairs

[quick pecan]

i went in blind and my placements were so scuffed

this was just the regular trial

[dark violet]

bruuu, this is so op to leak ando

[turbid badge]

[dark violet]

who cares about map air strike, if he never go into phase 2

[dark violet]

dw it becomes easier with higher diff

yan squad is broken af

[turbid badge]

i dont think angle raised any 5* yan

angle borrow my jieyun

[quick pecan]

i’m cooked oomf

[turbid badge]

angle u have texas?

she works

[quick pecan]

not even a leizi

[turbid badge]

cross works too

crossiant

pengu logistic

based in lungmen

and lungmen in yan

[quick pecan]

they count for yan??

[turbid badge]

yea idk why

but its interesting

[quick pecan]

wtf

[turbid badge]

i thought yan and lungmen was like a hong kong situation for talents and stuff too

[quick pecan]

tequila actually mvp w double damazti lane

maybe i should’ve brought ptilo but silence was cool

[turbid badge]

none my friends have cross this sucks

[quick pecan]

is this damazti easier than the ch 12 one

or are the mobs easier

i think it’s the mobs

[turbid badge]

windchimes becomes hoedidore

wtf a

ling dragon

countso

[dark violet]

with yan squad, you take the +3 dep limit and spam ling dragons

[turbid badge]

@crisp bolt

can i borr wur aako

[crisp bolt]

sure

Broom#3058

[tidal sedge]

Hm

Crushers sound neat with recovery boost come to think of it

[dark violet]

going full big brain

[cosmic thicket]

is it better to leak zarro or andoain tho

idk what modifiers they have in ultimate

[turbid badge]

ok asd mi

[turbid badge]

Yes

[crisp bolt]

Zarro gets 50% DR in first form and an extra target with his roar

[cosmic thicket]

that stacks on top of his DR?

[crisp bolt]

along extra atk of course

[cosmic thicket]

or is it set to 50% dr

[crisp bolt]

it's set to 50%

[cosmic thicket]

oh

[crisp bolt]

andoain is probably still more managable if you make sure to pop his fart clouds in a spot that won't screw you over

[cosmic thicket]

what's andoain's buffs

[crisp bolt]

extra fart cloud and more damage from his scan attack

[cosmic thicket]

is extra fart on phase 1 or 2

[dark violet]

idk, so far for me ando is the obvious choice

[glass monolith]

I like TfN 3 buff of his ass over TfN 2 buff

[dark violet]

I'll get rid of chen to grab skalter

[crisp bolt]

both, it changes the threshold

30% phase 1, 20% phase 2

[cosmic thicket]

oh ew

[crisp bolt]

yeah andoain is probably the most annoying to deal with

[cosmic thicket]

he can't do his scan attack in phase 1 right

[dark violet]

mmmh, thinking about it, what else could I try. there's no big option is it?

yeah he can't

just empty his shots and leak him

[cosmic thicket]

sick

[dark violet]

weak as a newborn baby

[crisp bolt]

quick reminder for Zaaro, he'll target 4 ops with his howl thing

so make sure your DPS doesn't get howled

[dark violet]

better use ling dragons

[cosmic thicket]

ye blue woman time

it's last redeployed right

[dark violet]

also taxes

yea

[cosmic thicket]

i forgot his targeting

ok easy

[dark violet]

time for spectacular

[crisp bolt]

standard targeting I believe

except it prioritizes citizens

isn't stun immune in phase 2 though

[dark violet]

idk who cares about stun

it's ceobe time

mmmh, maybe I should remove purestream at that point

what to pick though

I'm grabbing jaye

it's going to go well

[turbid badge]

lee better

double windchimes

[latent anvil]

teta pro

do my ultimate trial

[turbid badge]

[latent anvil]

[dark violet]

imagine having lee

I'm ready for your ass, wolfy

[turbid badge]

the muelseye clone acts like a windchimes

Op

double the crusher

we broke 10k

flamebringer could never

im gonna bring him@next time

[dark violet]

mmmh, ultimate is going to be more tricky huh

ceobe is just enough to one tap first phase

[cosmic thicket]

tbf warf is probably not buffing her

bc it's random

[turbid badge]

why u bringing all yhee buffers

[deft badger]

because he strong..

[cosmic thicket]

suzu in skalter's position is also excellent

i think

[dark violet]

so ceobe can kill him in two cycles

anyway, spectacular was easy

[dark violet]

buffing skalter s3 is good too

[cosmic thicket]

nian, doro, random ling dragon?

[dark violet]

but yu're right I will place the dragons outside of range

[cosmic thicket]

are the tiles southwest of the left blue box not deployable?

[dark violet]

mmmmmmh

I could borrow fartooth if need be

it's kinda funny how the boss gets tbag hard by ceobe though

s2 and it's done

[cosmic thicket]

it is a very high single target damage skill

[dark violet]

and entering phase 2 is enough time to recharge s2

poor boss

[dark violet]

alas #salt-mines message

[cosmic thicket]

werent u trying to find a unit to fill ur squad earlier

[dark violet]

oh yeah, I have jaye taking a spot

all tasks done during normal progression, nice

I'll remove the 40% atk buff

and get +3 dep limit

so I can have all the buffers at once and more dragons

sounds like a good trade right?

[cosmic thicket]

seems legit

[turbid badge]

GUYS

GUYS

i can havei

infinite ng cage

[dark violet]

nice

[turbid badge]

it stays when shes offfield

i forgot

Lolo

wtd

anyway 10k hp cages

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

troll

anything else guys

hax

this is so haz

itr trick caster

clusterknight gameplay:

[dark violet]

DAMNIT

I wasn't paying attention because it was slow and I didn't retreat ceobe

so she triggered ando fart on the worst place

anyway, first two phases are really easy

also, I'm not sure suzuran is helping that much?

If I grab ifrit maybe it'll be more useful

alright, back on track

bruuuuh

it was so stupidly fast

it actually doesn't help me lmao

ceobe will be offskill

bruh

that was way too easy

yan squad broken

the only difference is that the boss broke the pillar so ceobe only dealt 70% of his health and I finished with dusk/link

[delicate furnace]

Sui siblings are kinda strong in this event

[dark violet]

oh, and he died too fast and never got to do the howl

[tropic valve]

yeah the Sui passive is busted

[dark violet]

I feel like I'm missing something

oh, her s3 also gives +1 block, that's how they don't leak

trying to do her battle record

[balmy jolt]

Is the first TN damage buff (more damage per DP) additive or multiplicative?

[strange hazel]

haven't tested but everything's additive i think?

it's additive all right

[balmy jolt]

Word thanks

Related does anyone know what/how much the stat buffs are for the bosses?

[dense compass]

rmemeber this

[cunning river]

Why did they have to bring back the dodge

I somehow barely have any 6* arts dealers

[foggy grove]

what dodge need arts?

ic? just use car

[cunning river]

They don't come out nowhere as fast enough

[foggy grove]

[cunning river]

How are the cars supposed to help with the dodge?

[foggy grove]

by making them perma frozen

they'll run out of dodge

[cunning river]

Still can't do it

Specially when that boss one shots my units

[foggy grove]

what stage are you doing

[cunning river]

EX 8 normal

[foggy grove]

what's your dps
you have 2 approach : burst or taking it while baiting

if you are not averse to borrow
mlynar with apsd car is enough for the boss

[latent monolith]

I used pozy suzu in the original run

[cunning river]

I hate borrowing cause the support system is garbage

Pozy does about half of it's health maybe

[cosmic thicket]

and typewriter does the other half

[cunning river]

This was with the typewriter

M3

Also the stupid cars keep pushing enemies into the blue gates

[mortal finch]

is this good for early stages?

[soft crystal]

You can use arts dps

Use casters to ignore dodge

[cunning river]

I don't seem to have any, for some fucking reason

[foggy grove]

don't use the car part that push

🤨

[soft crystal]

Also yah, just dont use the pushing car part lol

[cosmic thicket]

idk what ur doing but my pozy did 100% of the damage

[foggy grove]

do you have thermex?
ely? or any buffer/debuffer

[cunning river]

Therm X has none of the pots iirc

I am already using Ely, thouhg S1

[soft crystal]

Exu warf is cleaner tbh

Pozy cool

[soft crystal]

Yes mr. Horse man is op

[cunning river]

My Warfarin isn't built at all

Yeah I have no idea

[cosmic thicket]

idk how urs is only doing half unless u have like 0 masteries