strategy

[scarlet mortar]

nah you don't need a borrow

[tropic valve]

yeah either of your teams can clear, the main thing is execute the boss kill properly

[scarlet mortar]

heck this is 5op

[wind lake]

But if I don’t borrow then my exusai gets murdered by aakk

[scarlet mortar]

ely warf exu

that's enough

really just get all your car parts and come back imo

you can get them by grinding the previous stage and exchanging parts

[wind lake]

The bumper car? Doesn’t it like suck tho?

It’s like a .5 sec stun

[scarlet mortar]

5s freeze, +aspd, +heals, faster cars and then sth

idr all the buffs, but no joke only killing the boss matters

the cars kill everything else

[cyan gorge]

Even Greythroat kills

[scarlet mortar]

look up my messages in this chat, there's a clear on bilibili with 3 3*s and a castle-3

[wind lake]

IMPOSSIBLE

[scarlet mortar]

freeze car stronk

[tropic valve]

hitting Exu with Aak

[wind lake]

Do you know what the freezing part is called?

[wind lake]

Isn’t it okay if shining defense buffs her?

[cyan gorge]

Power chiller

or external chiller for the low end part

[tropic valve]

yes, however you run into the problem of 1+1 < 2

in other words, you're spending 2 units to make Exu hit harder

but you could have brought 2 more DPS instead

[scarlet mortar]

the weaker version doesn't permafreeze so it's not usable

[cyan gorge]

For IC9 the freeze is not necessary

abuse the heal and aspd

[scarlet mortar]

yh there's a couple ways

tldr cars make the stage a joke

i had this which uses the mythical blem solo laneholder dps

rosa and schwarz with aspd

[wind lake]

Do I need the cooldown reduction one too?

[scarlet mortar]

it helps a lot bc you get more +aspd uptime

if you're powerlevelling hard idt you need need it

but well, low op loves getting buffs for free

[wind lake]

I think I need the cars that drone is scary

[vernal lion]

car the GOAT

[turbid badge]

@latent anvil i raised da fish

https://tenor.com/view/save-me-grind-cc-die-death-gif-4065856008064681621

[sly drift]

It's absurd how powerful the car is.

[latent anvil]

Mine is p6 e0 l1

anyway erato or blacknight first

[void terrace]

The one thing I don't understand is why the during sprites are taller than every other enemy

I remember noticing the difference in cc11 and was like wtf

[shell arch]

Patrick stands tall and he's only plain huge in sprite

Eusnectes bird is even half than other person's height in sprite version

[vernal lion]

bird is even just smaller than a human head

[shell arch]

[acoustic ridge]

i can eat it

[shell arch]

[turbid badge]

erato tbh

bn usage is low for me

shes easier to useo

[jovial nest]

EX-8 CM has some decent shielding on that boss. Good thing it can still be overpowered without the need for a debuffer/buffer

although I'm getting more and more impatient to have that Shu S3 ATK buff

[mint jolt]

I want to eat what's under the bird

[jovial nest]

Would you label Chalter's S3 -DEF% as a debuffer role?

[vernal lion]

boss just died to a Warf Pozy combo

[jovial nest]

I mean Poze was made to destroy the boss

due to direct line nuking of an idle flying target

no enemies are blocking the line of sight

[vernal lion]

which is perfect for her

[jovial nest]

I'm curious how Typhon S3 feels against it

[tropic valve]

Suzu Schwarz combo for me

[vernal lion]

boss is weight 6

[tropic valve]

it definitely kills, just a bit slower than the heavyshooters

[jovial nest]

I wanna see how much I can really stretch an all-purpose team against EX/S bosses because I'm minimizing or even removing pure buffers/debuffers in it

only worth mentioning are:
anti-RES: Tex2 S2, Reedic S3
anti-DEF: Chalter S3
ATK buffer: Shu S3

Surtr is RES ignore, right?

selfish?

[mint jolt]

Ain't pozy/ schwarz have better anti def debuff?

[jovial nest]

It's about the all-purpose nature. I like Chalter because she solves zerg rushes or high enemy count

Typhon's the ST

Having both snipers be ST has some inherent issues on other maps where there's a large mob with bosses

[scarlet mortar]

typhon one-cycles the IC-9 version

EX-8 just buff her with anything

[mint jolt]

Typhoon slow skill cycling yes?

[jovial nest]

The good thing about Typhon's S3 is, once she locks in to the boss, it doesn't matter where the boss goes. Although it matters if the boss gets near some enemies where the damage spreads to others

[vernal lion]

yea, like the Harold one

[mint jolt]

so if the boss becomes the kill gate then she performs at her best?

[jovial nest]

and that's why, there's always Mlynar and Degen as the main physical nukers

but Typhon wins in how far she can start nuking

[latent monolith]

Reed S3 is not res shred

[jovial nest]

lemme check Reedic

i need to correct myself

[scarlet mortar]

yh reed is arts amp

[jovial nest]

oh so...it's better to have with Tex2 S2?

[latent monolith]

Yeah and it's not restricted to S3

[jovial nest]

since it works in tandem?

[mint jolt]

Id rather pick ifrit for res shredding tho

[jovial nest]

well, S3 makes it consistent

would you put Ifrit in an all-purpose squad though?

when i say all-purpose....no changing/no subbing

[mint jolt]

Oh yea HAHAHA

[vernal lion]

Ifrit, when there is no line

[jovial nest]

ifrit only needs 1 tile

[latent monolith]

Ifrit tiles are quite common

[jovial nest]

but still....

[scarlet mortar]

ifrit is less versatile for setups so i wouldn't bring her for a cheese squad

cexas still gets to bomb every other tile on the map

[latent monolith]

you don't have to have every single op good on every single map either

ray seems cool tho, chonky dph chonky range fast cycle

[jovial nest]

iirc that map ain't exactly easy to just nuke him from spawn. The gimmick makes it too rough to attempt attacks away from heat

[scarlet mortar]

RS maps look painful ngl

though it's half a niche issue for me

[jovial nest]

thats why I'm looking at Ray closely too

[vernal lion]

I heard that his DR is only for physical and arts dmg

[jovial nest]

cause if I'm making the 2 sniper combo package

they have to each do what the other might not

Typhon and Ray are STs

[mint jolt]

If you're lategame bursting is a very easy strat yes?

[jovial nest]

i guess thats why I went with Chalter. My squad doesn't exactly have an easy access to true AoE

didn't want Exalter

[vernal lion]

someone says Exu is weak for boss, until she has 750 base atk

[jovial nest]

that's still ehhhhh

you really need some buffers

[vernal lion]

still higher than Tachanka tho

[jovial nest]

i don't remember when i stopped using Marksmen

i remembered it was even pre-Tex2

[vernal lion]

marksmen issue is they prio aa more than ground

[jovial nest]

Maybe because Light (old member in #strategy that i respect a lot) did mention the best anti-drone aren't exactly Marksmen if prio targetting aren't necessary

or something close to that

[vernal lion]

max tachanka base atk is still 716

dualsword moment

[mint jolt]

I use lords as my anti air..

[jovial nest]

oh yeah....I used to be a Thorns guy

Thorns and Chalter would've been enough

for most aerial stuff

[mint jolt]

They are versatile and can hold armored guys when they can't punch through defs

[vernal lion]

Thorns is less effective in story stage due to specific enemy with dangerous ability

[mint jolt]

Marksmen straight up dies when high def units come

[vernal lion]

at least he still can be useful in ch12

[shell arch]

Weird question but

Are there any operators that give atkscale to others?

[vernal lion]

no lol

[shell arch]

:blemiexplodes:

[vernal lion]

only flat atk like bard op

[shell arch]

Also do we have +dmg scale?

Gravel is 50/50 damage scale twice

[mint jolt]

Ain't amplifications like attack scale?

[vernal lion]

+dmg scale is fragile

[shell arch]

Fragile doesn't work for elemental dmg tho right?

[mint jolt]

No :<

[jovial nest]

Now imagine how high the bar is now that a Thorns simp like me has finally discarded Thorns usage.

[shell arch]

so not dmg scale

[mint jolt]

Ebencries

[jovial nest]

Thorns has some high atk with an infi S3....and even that feels like peanuts now due to some formidable enemies with high DEF

[vernal lion]

no he means the op that can give the atk scale right for that op, not the amplifications

that's kinda broken tho

[jovial nest]

Same reasoning as to why Vigil is useful in ch12. Except even lower DP cost?

[vernal lion]

because the atk goes after def/res first, then DR, and finally is amp

[jovial nest]

[mint jolt]

I still use thorns as my core on IS combat maps

[shell arch]

Maybe mwynaw true dmg to kazi? But that pure dmg atkscale isn't above 100%

[jovial nest]

LS....ewwwww

[mint jolt]

mlynar bad recipient for atk% buffs like warfa?

[shell arch]

No, he's good

Since trait is atkscale iirc

[dark glade]

until you read liberator

[jovial nest]

btw

does Reedic's S2 fireballs proc her arts amp talent?

[foggy grove]

it's very heavily diluted

mlynar already +400%

going from +400 to +490%

[mint jolt]

It's better to give mlynar atkspeed, def shred and dmg amplifications?

[foggy grove]

aspd is best

[dark glade]

if you cant see mlynar slash, thats peak mlynar

[jovial nest]

yeah, that's usually the con of Liberators. They inflate their ATK from a really low ATK base

so any % ATK buff almost barely matters

[vernal lion]

I find it's very amused that Mlynar can kill things which have more than 2k def
while Tequila is struggled with even 1k def enemy

[jovial nest]

so they prefer debuff for DEF or fragility

[mint jolt]

Nice! I can use saileach for him.

[jovial nest]

isn't it not just because of their final stats but also just how bonkers they made Mly's talent and S3 text?

[vernal lion]

yes

[shell arch]

I think mwynaw benefits more being buffed with aak than warfie

But he definitely benefits more when being buffed by both

Wtf discord farting on me

[jovial nest]

thats why

[dark glade]

he benefit more by being farted by amigo

[jovial nest]

modules for Liberators is gonna be either very annoying or very good for Mlynar

cause you know you only want 1 of Mlynar's talents to be buffed

[foggy grove]

aak is his best buffer folowed by suzu?

[jovial nest]

Shamare is good too

[ashen pewter]

skalter

[mint jolt]

but shamare is pure buffer

[jovial nest]

Skalter is.....yeah she's good

for Mly

S3 to be exact

[foggy grove]

skalter is joever

[mint jolt]

aint it better to use pozy schwarz?

[jovial nest]

Isn't Shamare like a -DEF?

[foggy grove]

since inspire goes last

[jovial nest]

i mean heh....that just goes to show that even the best of the bards can only do so much buffing

due to how abysmal their ATK bases are

[ashen pewter]

shamare isnt even a buffer, she's a debuffer

[jovial nest]

yeah she is

[mint jolt]

Yeah wrong wording xD

[jovial nest]

also do not sit on Sham. She has the easiest applications of -ATK%

[mint jolt]

This is really strong tbh

[jovial nest]

if you want boss dueling to go well, you might want her

[shell arch]

List of maweenar buffer tier list

1. FFF RA
2. Aak
3. Shamare?

[mint jolt]

You can dampen boss fatal attack

[jovial nest]

hell, drop Mousse once the boss is blocked by someone else

[turbid badge]

what

[jovial nest]

I wouldn't even pick Aak

all that much

for Mly

[turbid badge]

why ur mly not doing damage

[ashen pewter]

FFF RA?

[jovial nest]

he's already doing lots. You just need to give him help that helps more. Like Suzu + Sham

[mint jolt]

I would like the horse aunt if her skill have high initial sp

[ashen pewter]

where'd you need Mlynar to do that much damage tho lol.

[shell arch]

Folk festive feast reclamation algorithm. 50% atk, 50 aspd

[foggy grove]

sham doesn't help much unless the boss has giga morbiliion def

[vernal lion]

Aak Mly is like best combo for male only

[ashen pewter]

skalter just give him best utility

[jovial nest]

max risk CC dailies heh

[shell arch]

Because i don't activate his skill you silly goose

[mint jolt]

Chad

[turbid badge]

just use suzu

[dark glade]

1. flashing sword
2. survivor contrat

[turbid badge]

oh

[shell arch]

I haven't played is3 so idk what relic or what do they do

[turbid badge]

ok amigo

Time for bedpp

[shell arch]

[jovial nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720400010390536332/1071769165100228618/image.png?ex=65d1f7d1&is=65bf82d1&hm=94d47d77d5abfe31be2f9f99bbfbeb99a2deff9f7e18b5bb6e276b84e46081a6&
ah.....memories

Pompeii max daily is the cancer-est of all

outside maybe...

East Armory

or even some Pyrite max dailies

[mint jolt]

How much is elysium def shred?

[jovial nest]

i mean.....i don't exactly see them having that much variety to be picky

just enough. It's mostly because he's just a good package for Sniper nuking

[foggy grove]

outside of maleknight,he is still the better pick if you want more dmg from mlynar

[vernal lion]

25-35%

[jovial nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720400010390536332/1017781532733218836/unknown.png?ex=65cf5c6a&is=65bce76a&hm=24731c84e137d85ff5c9a86135565442f458c3817851fa78d47a7417c334ef87&
Arts version. And yes I had to adjust the strats because physical was going nowhere in the 2nd week

[shell arch]

200 iirc

Wait trust naga, not am*go

[foggy grove]

amigo smh

[turbid badge]

ah yes flat def shred

i remember ely having

[mint jolt]

Man I should raise elysium for that s2

[turbid badge]

hes good

anywaysp

s1 and s2

[jovial nest]

before you raise stuff

think about how many times you're actually gonna use em

M3 btw. You can E2 anyone for fun

[turbid badge]

his chibis really pretty

[jovial nest]

but M3ing is a different game

[mint jolt]

I always use saileach s3

[turbid badge]

oh dont forget

the invis reveal

on ely s2

[jovial nest]

Sail S3 just feels so....unless you're doing some really high risks

it's not worth saccing her printing prowess for it

[turbid badge]

do sail module + mlynar combo for fragile and mlynar gets extra hit

[mint jolt]

You mean the +2apsd?

[jovial nest]

I'm just gonna be on the all-purpose train and just make Shu S3 the all-purpose buffer. She also has the solid S1 stuff if not against something tanky af

[turbid badge]

it gives him a extra hit so still damage

[mint jolt]

Is it gud 4man burst?

Elysium
Saileach
mlynar
Pozy

[turbid badge]

why use flags for debuff

no suzuran?

or hexer etc

fragile applier

[mint jolt]

Coz i like flags and no suzuran

[turbid badge]

ah

for pozy elys great

[vernal lion]

I use Chiave with THRM-EX

[shell arch]

Naga you madlad, you followed my suggestion?

[jovial nest]

you only use Flags for debuffs if its high risk CC where there's a squad limit and DP risks. Each squad slot counts during those

[shell arch]

I haven't even e2ed chiave myself

[vernal lion]

it's good tho, he can debuff -20% red

[turbid badge]

uhhh

thats still high for robo?

or sm i missing dmth

[jovial nest]

i mean

[vernal lion]

e2 is -75% redeploy for robot

[jovial nest]

its still a massive redep cooldown

[turbid badge]

for debuff i use steal

[jovial nest]

thats why people joke that NTRK is a goddamn robot

0 deployment limit in S2 and also high redep cooldown if no gravel comboing

[vernal lion]

totally

[jovial nest]

anyways......Eureka is getting closer....

[turbid badge]

closer to dust

[mint jolt]

Does ely movementspeed debuff stack with sail slow?

[vernal lion]

if they don't nerf that, you can just keep spamming s2 which is better than Ch'en

[jovial nest]

such a shame Global wasn't able to use her in IS3 during its prime content

[vernal lion]

I believe sail is Slow, so Ely can

[jovial nest]

Sail is a stun first

i usually forget her slow

it doesn't long enough for me to feel it

[mint jolt]

Sail slow is cool it helps her trait not blocking when using skill

[vernal lion]

sail is slow in area, while Ely is lock on

[turbid badge]

mhm

sail chongyun exu poo daily max risk

[jovial nest]

ngl....

POO's "dailies" felt great

amazing even

i love the balance of superrisks

with superbuffs

feels very fresh and they can really become creative with it

[turbid badge]

im hyped in new cc dailies

they were intresting

from wht i heard

and sawp

RA 2 looks tun

fqun

base doesnt save but its more of like

diff base every run

and run saves every 3 days or smth

[jovial nest]

i mean

base still saves

you might be thinking of outposts?

[vernal lion]

[tropic valve]

flat dolly isn't real and can't hurt you

[jovial nest]

I SEE YOU

[livid delta]

It's giving Catherine vibes

[tidal sedge]

how do you get all the car attachments? im seeing some trust farm videos with much higher grade car upgrades

[jovial nest]

outside of just sanity usage = more rolls for parts

you go do the once-a-day friend's car voting

whoever you vote for gives you a chance to get one of their parts

[tidal sedge]

i can burn sanoty for parts? or do you mean just farming stages

[jovial nest]

just farm

sanity used in event becomes fuel to get parts

but it's pure RNG

so most of your "new" parts will come from friend voting

had more luck using her S2M3 over S3SL7

the hole is not S2 "jebait." It's an actual option for those who prefer S2

[glass monolith]

On original run you had guarantee 1 new part from friend voting and random chance of random (can be dupe) part, not sure if rerun buffed it so new people get parts in time, there is like 34 of them

[jovial nest]

it's most likely buffed by this point. it has to

the duration of event is now shorter

[polar crane]

I use s2 too for crocodile paradox

[jovial nest]

I'm tempted to S2M3 Surtr just because I have gotten to a few situations where I wish I had a ground laner with actual meaty dmg to high DEF that's not just a nuking skill (like Mly/Degen S3), and I don't want Hoed S3 to be the only carry of that portion

[foggy grove]

just use vivi fr

[sly drift]

Did S1M3 S2M2 Surtr and use it only for like... twice

[atomic phoenix]

I think any arts guard should be able to fill that role. Mousse is a 4*, so she's cheap to raise, and she even comes with a bit of atk debuff as well.

[jovial nest]

heh, I'm thinking about Surtr S2 just because I'm trying to go on a rule of "no one's getting kicked out of this team unless someone else is better than them"

[polar crane]

I'd rather use amiya tbh, she have atk buff as well

[sly drift]

Using s2 surtr is like using S2 mlynar. If works of course and sometime it comes in handy but it feels so odd because you can just use their S3 to wipe the whole shits.

[jovial nest]

well

the difference of the Mlynar comparison is

in Surtr's case....the other skill allows her to permanently lane

but yeah, I am only doing this sort of thing because of a restriction I'm doing on myself

[ivory nimbus]

So, how am I supposed to defeat Minimalist?

[scarlet mortar]

car abuse

[ivory nimbus]

His drone is annoying beyond anything I've encountered.

[foggy grove]

he meant the flying version

[scarlet mortar]

get the buffs from the cars to kill him better and manage ground enemies, or have the cars delete all the ground enemies altogether and focus on the boss

it's still car abuse

if your car parts aren't good enough, basically the only thing to really focus on is the stun skill

the drone alternates between the red square which deals mid aoe damage and the yellow square which stuns you

the targeting for the yellow skill is ops with fewest adjacent ops

so just drop a gravel in the middle of nowhere to bait the yellow square and bring an aoe medic for your main defense

the rest is simple, shoot the boss lmao

[jovial nest]

yeah there's some car parts that allow the ground ops it goes through to get SP, ground ops it goes through to splash in a 3x3 radius an ASPD or heal buff

[ocean herald]

kill the drone asap

[jovial nest]

use those to your advantage, especially the ASPD and SP

[scarlet mortar]

there's not even a real rush to kill the boss

it loops the map

[jovial nest]

the issue is

the longer it survives, the more its effects hurt

[scarlet mortar]

if you can manage the yellow squares you outheal it easily

[jovial nest]

the crowded keeps getting arts splashed

the loner keeps getting stunned

[scarlet mortar]

always bait the yellow skill

aim to outheal the red one

once you know the tempo it's actually fine

[ivory nimbus]

Hmm, might I present my loadout, and asked for some suggestions?

[foggy grove]

sure

[scarlet mortar]

also check which car parts you have

[scarlet mortar]

hmm lapp and thorns to lane and dps the boss

they can probs handle both

liskarm tanks the charged cars (fyi you can disable them by scratching them early)

ptilo and gav should be enough for healing combined with the mushroom extract part

[foggy grove]

the boss takes his time circling the map
aspd car enable thorns to solo dps

[scarlet mortar]

plenty excess tbh

gravel baits the yellow squares

yh you're good to go

[ivory nimbus]

[agile perch]

Thorns and like Myrtle literally duo the map

The rest is just excess

[scarlet mortar]

yh it's just a matter of how easy you can make it

having all the car parts makes most of the stage trivial

[turbid badge]

flashes ur eyes

my second m4

ill m3 dw havukdjnu

[tall cairn]

Bruh what is this.

[void terrace]

Do any units other than qiubai s1 inflict bind on St consistently?

Ceobe s1 does but it's slow

Looking for someone to pair with qiubai s1 to Perma bind a boss

[jovial nest]

Ethan S2 sounds like your man

[glass monolith]

Gladiia S3 for entire duration, Indigo S2 assuming there are no other enemies or she wastes attack and don't root uptime for shit

[jovial nest]

Ling S2 eats too much deployment limit

[glass monolith]

He didn't mention small detail of drone target

Unless he abuse minimalist phase 2

[jovial nest]

does Gladiia S3 really bind?

[glass monolith]

On main target

[jovial nest]

it feels like she's just shift cancelling

oh

the main target

[void terrace]

The idea is basically qiubai s1 with Chen mod 3 stainless saileach

To Perma bind a single enemy

Except it isn't enough

[jovial nest]

also permabinding a boss is a lot of trouble

you're better off chaining sluggish/slow

[void terrace]

So my thoughts were why not add another binder

Oh this is just for memes

[jovial nest]

it works really well with the solid debuffers where slows are built in

[void terrace]

I like creating perpetual loops

[jovial nest]

ah just memes

[void terrace]

The idea of being able to permanently just stop any threat is fun

If there was another unit similar to qiubai with quick binding skills on short cd

Ethan's one is rmg

So is indigos

[glass monolith]

Lone Trail sleep to permastun Kris

[acoustic ridge]

indigo is a fun one

she's great for this event

[void terrace]

The concept is to be applicable to all bosses

[glass monolith]

Indigo saved my ass on S-5 last event because i had no other answer to BIG FELLA

[void terrace]

In case any single boss comes up there will always be some dumb way to actually premenantly stop it, rather than just slows

Hmmmmm

I shall look into the indigo Ethan combo

I know ceobe also has one

Anyone else I'm missing? Carnelian s2 defeats the purpose a little

[glass monolith]

Indigo is not really permament as she don't attack bind target and everything moves while not bind

[acoustic ridge]

frostleaf

[void terrace]

Ah shit right

[acoustic ridge]

she's heavy rng tho

[void terrace]

She has bind?

[acoustic ridge]

yeah

[glass monolith]

Module for 3x4 range and 100% bind we trust

[void terrace]

It's an active skill tho

[acoustic ridge]

40% chance at m3

oh

right

what about ling s2

[void terrace]

Well I guess I'll have to wait for wanqing and shu for the dreams to become memes

[glass monolith]

They made 3 Eben modules, they surely can afford making module for active skills

[void terrace]

Ethan looks like the best bet now hmmm

[turbid badge]

dont

just use magalan

[glass monolith]

(Let him cook)

[jovial nest]

Mag S1 does sound promising

[void terrace]

I mean there's ling but ling slow

Magallans bind is only 15s tho

Might as well use muelseye

[jovial nest]

If theyre ground, and not stun immune, and can be blocked, you can just sandwich them between Mumu S3 ground and Eun S2

[north jungle]

Got Hoshiguma, which is her preferred module? I take it these days her only meta use is S2 against the full map ranged enemies, especially invisible/untargetable ones?

Although I see that almost all the hoshis on my support list are set to S3

[void terrace]

Tried with ceobe s1

No luck

[void terrace]

S2 is usually the preferred set and forget with base defence increase off the bat. Her s3 is fancy but does nowhere near enough DMG in this day and age

Hoshi alter when

4 block significantly increases her resist rates to 32%, reducing her DMG taken in the long haul

[north jungle]

Thanks, what about amulet? I was initially leaning towards the one that adds 20% def when blocking rather than blocking 4, but for the niche use especially against ranged enemies this seems useful

[void terrace]

20% def mod is more meh as that particular niche is heavily dominated by nian

[north jungle]

Thanks, just what I was thinking

Does "resist" mean no damage in this case, btw

[void terrace]

Def is only against phys

Yep resist is basically dodge

[north jungle]

Nice

[foggy grove]

do you have nian tho?

[north jungle]

Not that it matters, but do you know if it triggers those dodge relics in IS?

[void terrace]

Seek professional options tho I'm just a potato

[foggy grove]

it doesn't trigger dodge relic

[void terrace]

Who else do you have?

Hoshi module is not something you should be investing in unless she's waifu

Biiig oni waifu

[north jungle]

Haha no, that's limited, and I already have most characters at the top of the meta. But just got hoshi from Top Operator

[void terrace]

Nice

[foggy grove]

her use case is just usually afk brick

[north jungle]

Thanks haha, I tend to raise every 6 star unless out of resources

[foggy grove]

with amulet module

[void terrace]

I mean her mod won't make that much difference then

Damn how do you have so many blocks tho 0_o

My data blocks were succed dry

[sonic cargo]

You mean Module Data Block? It's available in Cert Shop. Or maybe you are too many upgrading operator's module

[shell arch]

Could anyone do me a favor by checking how much def does nian have on p1 lvl90 s3m3 mod3?

[foggy grove]

which mod

[shell arch]

Both mod

[foggy grove]

why s3 tho

she doen't get def buff with that

[shell arch]

Wait

What

Isn't s3 her tanking skill?

S2 is silence?

[cosmic thicket]

no

S2 is the tanky skill

[foggy grove]

s2 is her tanking skill

[shell arch]

Wtf

I swear s3 was her tanking skill

So what's the maxdef on s2m3?

[scarlet mortar]

S3 buffs everyone except herself

it's the funny skill

[shell arch]

So what's nian recommended mastery?

[scarlet mortar]

S2M3 and then if you're real bored S3M3

her onskill def which comes helidropped + 4 shield layers puts her apart from hoshi's lower but constant def statline

[foggy grove]

1899 on block 4 mod

2373 on the other

[shell arch]

Interesting

Thanks

Also did I just experience Mandela effect or I'm just having dementia?

Like i swear s3 nian was her tanking skill

(the last time i read nian's kits was 3 years ago)

[scarlet mortar]

mandragora effect

[glass monolith]

If there are 2 operators next to each other there is mechanic to screw over both

[void terrace]

Never cluster ops

[polar crane]

mandela effect dont exist

[strange hazel]

how do people remember what time aggregates spawn and talulah skills in jt8-3

[shell arch]

They don't. They just usually have fast reaction time

[strange hazel]

not having a clear indicator made 4* CM super awful for me (burned 60 sanity or so but finally cleared)

[shell arch]

Also talulah burn coincidence with executor's redeployment time

[strange hazel]

I can’t use gravel to stall or I lose track of her ignite skill

[polar crane]

talulah ignite skill?

[glass monolith]

If you bait talulah skills you jsut drop redeploys as soon as they are up

[strange hazel]

yeah but her explosion skill

that gets super awful if it overlaps with aggregate explosion

[polar crane]

she dont explode if there is no ignite target on the field

[glass monolith]

I don't care for it, have whoever blocks her survive it, and never place shit so you explode

[void terrace]

The lit T beneath them shows you where they will spawn no?

It's a long wind up

[strange hazel]

ye I know where they spawn

[void terrace]

Oh you mean her ignite?

It's every 20s

So just keep 2 fdr

[strange hazel]

I don’t know when they spawn, and then talulah’s hp drops to 0 right after they do, but that’s a separate problem

[scarlet mortar]

that's why i brought 3 FRDs and the spare myrtle while opening to bait and break aggregates separately

[void terrace]

Just borrow eyjalter and ptilopsis

[strange hazel]

nah I had problems with all three (ignite, explosion, aggregates)

[scarlet mortar]

well, i did end up scraping that auto, but sth like that worked

[void terrace]

Now adays you can brute force with very little trouble

I brute forced it back in the day with nightingale saria and ptilo

[shell arch]

What's talulah explosion and aggregates? I think aggregates are the flowers?

[glass monolith]

If you bring FRD FRD then you just need to recall them as soon as they burning and place as soon as ready

[void terrace]

With aimiya guard mode tanking tallulah

[scarlet mortar]

explosions didn't matter for me, FRDs bait all flames and retreat so

[void terrace]

Just stacking a bunch of healers works too

Didn't even use fdrs

[scarlet mortar]

only guardmiya tanked the flames so i just moved everyone diagonally relative to her

[strange hazel]

ignite forced gravel down off to the side so I could keep track of it which sucked, the explosion is fine but my talulah staller could just die if it overlaps with an aggregate wave I can’t kill in time

[void terrace]

3 to 4 good medics/guardians

[strange hazel]

and the aggregates overlap with talulah’s death uncontrollably since I don’t have good burst with 4*

[void terrace]

What's your squad?

[glass monolith]

After baiting JT8-3 in my original clear, after 2 days of practice plans and about 18 loses afterwards, i won't bait that shit anymore and just murder that stupid draco

[scarlet mortar]

since the explosions were neutralized i just used my spare slots to break aggregates

[void terrace]

Ikr

[scarlet mortar]

it helps to have fewer ops on the field

[void terrace]

Stacking medics ftw

[void terrace]

Oh

[scarlet mortar]

you have more slots for FRDs and also less tiles that have to tank aggregates

[strange hazel]

squad and general strat (I cleared already)

[void terrace]

Wait your a 4 star runner?

[strange hazel]

not a good one

but yes

[void terrace]

Respect man

[scarlet mortar]

oh yh that would suck depending on the cycle

3 aggregates to break

[void terrace]

Focus on baiting the explosions. Use jaye to kill the aggregates that are dangerous

[strange hazel]

indigo is usually two tiles down and one to the right of purestream so I can controlled burst the boss + deal with one aggregate spawn

[strange hazel]

purestream and perfumer live actually but need to be on full health

[scarlet mortar]

yh not reliable

[strange hazel]

need one of their skills and need to bait every ignite to have a chance

[scarlet mortar]

it'd help to instead rotate the tank tbh

instead of forcing medics

[strange hazel]

usually one dies and I need to use the other and deepcolor summons to stall until redeploy

[scarlet mortar]

i'm speaking in retrospect anw since ik what the CM 4* clear looks like

[strange hazel]

mousse debuff is critical but she sometimes just dies

usually to an aggregate I can’t kill

talulah does 1.5k damage per melee and my hps is in the drain when off skill

so mousse or jaye, gravel and three deepcolor summons is required to mitigate it

[scarlet mortar]

your level of mald is kinda reminiscent of what the H8-4 114 people went through

[strange hazel]

what do you mean by 114

[scarlet mortar]

E1L1 4*

[strange hazel]

they did that???

[scarlet mortar]

yh

insane clear

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV13T411Q7Tm

[strange hazel]

how are you supposed to make sure aggregates don't overlap with the inferno fireballs anyway

[scarlet mortar]

hall of fame tier

[strange hazel]

besides either precisely timing every bit of damage or burst

[scarlet mortar]

watch it

it's pretty long but hell it's cinematic

[strange hazel]

i didn't do H8-4 yet and didn't know till now it has those annoying drones

[scarlet mortar]

also volume on ig

they cooked that vid hard

[strange hazel]

how are the civilians not dead

[glass monolith]

Well if they are dead you fucking lose, why else they alive

When killing civilians are okay we get another IS (Texas alter event) situation

[scarlet mortar]

bros had subtitles, CG, skill cycling animations

[strange hazel]

myrtle s2 for healing

[scarlet mortar]

literally everything in that vid

[strange hazel]

three healers and myrtle s2 is still required

[scarlet mortar]

and matoimaru who herself has self-heals

and jaye who heals

[strange hazel]

jessica dodge is required for fires too, i'm guessing

that's awful

30 min run just to lose to end rng

[scarlet mortar]

it's almost been a year since the vid came out

[strange hazel]

they planned the whole fires phase

[dark glade]

I am dying

[scarlet mortar]

it's so peak

[strange hazel]

did they precisely count every hit of damage or smth

because talulah could have just died when someone important was on cooldown

[dark glade]

Oh is this also jess gacha

Lol

[scarlet mortar]

i mean you can calc it beforehand

hp can be estimated so you won't be off even in case of mishaps

work out heal cycles first, then figure out what you're fitting in the process

alternatively, fast enough cycles can just be adapted on the fly

phase 2 is fucked up btw

[strange hazel]

if ingite and explosion are off cooldown which does talulah do first

[scarlet mortar]

RNG

[strange hazel]

you're kidding

[scarlet mortar]

they winged it all

[strange hazel]

i just realized you can't even ignore aggregates because of the civies

[glass monolith]

You can if you kill boss in like 10 seconds

[scarlet mortar]

if you made it 21m into the vid

[strange hazel]

i finished the vid, but skipped much of the phase 1 stall

phase 2 was a nightmare

[scarlet mortar]

i hope you didn't skip phase 2

[strange hazel]

jessica gets one shot by deathless inferno right

so she has to just live 8 fires -> 10% chance per inferno

[scarlet mortar]

nah i meant the stall part

[strange hazel]

yeah i watched that

[scarlet mortar]

20:30 onwards sunk my heart

[strange hazel]

i doubted beanstalk utility but it's actually insane if you can keep her alive

recovering after mato death in phase 2 of all things was impressive

[scarlet mortar]

that part topped the entire vid for me

[strange hazel]

courier vs scav btw? courier's more defensive right

[tidal sedge]

Ye

Scavenger raises her Atk, Courier raises Def.

[strange hazel]

courier only has like +50-80 defense over fang

talent + mod might help but only when two enemies are blocked

i guess every bit of it helps w/ earlygame enemies who have sub 400 attack anyway

[tidal sedge]

Yeah, hes a pretty good early blocker but can be switched to a guard or defender

Yeah.

[strange hazel]

and s2 is up before hard enemies show up

[tidal sedge]

Hmm.
Meanwhile im trying to figure out how to do IC-EX-2s mission condition

[acoustic ridge]

this is beautiful

[scarlet mortar]

cynik watch the thing

[acoustic ridge]

later

I shall

I'm in a chem lecture rn

[scarlet mortar]

[acoustic ridge]

[scarlet mortar]

oh damn chem

let him cook

[acoustic ridge]

chem sucks dawg

[latent anvil]

just do physics

[scarlet mortar]

you're saying this to someone who graduated hs with peak chem scores

simply get good

[acoustic ridge]

physics was full

[scarlet mortar]

rip

[acoustic ridge]

I'm a compsci major not a breaking bad one

[scarlet mortar]

i will not confirm whether i'm the latter

[acoustic ridge]

[tidal sedge]

Hmmm...
Weird condition but ok.

[acoustic ridge]

it's a translation error

[glass monolith]

What error?

[tidal sedge]

Its more like im trying to figure out how to set up to avoid the surf bro.

Best i can think of is spawnkill him?

[scarlet mortar]

just don't use cars

[tidal sedge]

That too lol

Thanks

[acoustic ridge]

enemy name

[acoustic ridge]

block them and kill them

so that the cars never crash into them

[viscid mist]

i'm never doing this again

ranged teams are a bad joke

thankfully eyja is the literal goat healer

[vernal lion]

GG full carry

[lofty stag]

What’s the loadout on your cars?

[tidal sedge]

I just didnt use the cars, and bombed them with horn and hit them with pozy

[acoustic ridge]

nice nice

[tidal sedge]

Ye. Lupos ftw

[vernal lion]

chips are auto cycle and -50% cd +2 dp

[tidal sedge]

Question. Does Lappy stop enemy dodge?

[vernal lion]

yes

[tidal sedge]

👍

All i needed to know

Ty

[vernal lion]

my ic-mo squad if you need

[tidal sedge]

Ok...
Giving the enemy vehicles more hp is rough

On IC-EX-2 CM

[ancient hearth]

reedic also funny on IC MO

as she can spawn camp the left and just start blowing everything up

[cosmic thicket]

lin is also funny, my mod3 lin tanked hits from the volleyball carts and durin casters like a champ

0 healing needed for the whole run

[neat thorn]

hello, can you tell me which magic dealer is good to copy with mumu clone ??
I have reed alt too

(and if I don't have any good op which should I get ??)

[cosmic thicket]

they're all not great

[turbid badge]

nonep

[cosmic thicket]

AA snipers are more preferable for S3 bind shenanigans

[turbid badge]

Lol

best arts is like

eyja module cuz the atk buff from her module 2

[neat thorn]

I wanted to use something for the event 'cause they're physical immune

[turbid badge]

If anything just use reedic or melee clone

[neat thorn]

but I don't have many casters

[turbid badge]

use melee clone

[neat thorn]

reedic is ok ??

[turbid badge]

its not as bad as people think

[turbid badge]

Yea

[neat thorn]

melee

ok

[turbid badge]

shes probably the best options

For artsp

I use hexers/abjurers/reedic for arts

[neat thorn]

in art I only have surtr on melee

so I'm kind of lacking art dmg for the event

ho I got one more question, is exusiai better or rosa with mumu ??

[lapis hornet]

to clone? exu iirc

[turbid badge]

please dont try to use the clone for damage that much

its more of

s3 binding lock

honestly

honestly doesnt matter

but

faster aspd is always better

for clon

melee -> steal stats faster

ranged -> make more clones faster

[ember fiber]

i just use posa or apple pie

for muelsyse clones

depending on the map

[acoustic fox]

I used this combo for IC MO 1

Golden glow wasnt even needed

just to speed the run up a tiny bit

[turbid badge]

get cropped

why did my map

[glass monolith]

Damn you got scrolled so hard you literally see end of placeholder map

[hazy totem]

On the left Weedy gaming, on the right, Dorothy gaming and Mumu clones in the middle to bring apsd.

[glass monolith]

It is totally edited. No way Reed S3 not lag that shit

[ashen pewter]

mine lagged as fck

[vernal lion]

try this one too

LMAO

[glass monolith]

Damn they stacked them so hard Reed skin explosion look cool

[next frost]

Wtfart how?

[turbid badge]

OD slugs + projectile push machine

so basically no damage weedy s2

and than they gather

all them

funnel

[tidal sedge]

why cant i get Infinite Fist upgrade for the car

everything else is mid compared to it

apparently it wass easy to get the first run of this event, but cant get it anywhere for this one

well not gaurenteed that is

[peak cloak]

i can confirm en cant read.

[scarlet fulcrum]

U get that from forum task, mission thingy

[peak cloak]

u equip your car 6 parts and then join a mission.

@tidal sedge

[tidal sedge]

bro i did that why tf does it not count

you think i didnt try that first

also the random virgil playing is funny

i like that lol

[peak cloak]

have to equip total 6 parts first, or just restart your game

[tidal sedge]

hm its been open on my pc all day so maybe thats it

[peak cloak]

bury the light is a nice song tho, i'm a big fan of rock for like 28 years so every nice rock songs,they have a place in my playlist xd

[tidal sedge]

yeah it was restarting it

i knew i already did it

it just never gave me it for some reason

thanks

[peak cloak]

so u got that car part?

[tidal sedge]

yeah

had to restart the game

[peak cloak]

cool

[tidal sedge]

i did read smh

[peak cloak]

cap

xd

[tidal sedge]

wonky thing needed to restart

after doing exactly what it said to do lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

From ur question, u didnt realize it

[tidal sedge]

the little task complete notif didnt appear and i thought i did something wrong thats why

but nah it just appeared after the restart

[peak cloak]

also, there is current a bug that make u cant exit mini car stages, come #bug-reports ,i posted a solution while waiting for devs to fix

want to note you just in case

[scarlet fulcrum]

Sure buddy, as log as it works

[turbid badge]

i need lvl 60

mechants module

[tidal sedge]

thx for the heads up

[turbid badge]

anyways

@latent anvil

penut right

irene fell off

Jk i lov barrier

[latent anvil]

[tidal sedge]

IC-EX-6...
Hmmm.

[crystal cargo]

Mostly afk

[scarlet mortar]

that stage is a car solo btw

[void terrace]

This whole event just proves that drunk walking is more dangerous than drunk driving

(psa pls don't drink drive it ain't worth it)

But damn the cars do stupid amounts of DMG

It's gonna be fun when this event is in recollection

What's the highest score on the P stages again? I only got s

[scarlet mortar]

you can use the slower but DP saving cars, push and explosions to kill everyone

on both P stages

so the hs is however many points that makes

i think ranks go up to SS?

[turbid badge]

my humus is vibratingop

[vocal leaf]

schwarz barely made it with the last hit, might need to borrow pozy for cm, also wonder if exalter will have enough time to kill second phase

[scarlet mortar]

rosa's better as a borrow imo

she'd both prio and chunk the boss

[vocal leaf]

oh really? hmm i dont think i have a rosa friend tho

[fierce tendon]

Pozy Eyja and Suzu can do the work for both normal and cm, as for 2nd phase, get atleast like uuhh saria s3 then arts dealer

[vocal leaf]

arts dealer… lvl1 surtr staring at me

[crystal cargo]

person runs over durin with cars

[tropic valve]

Exu isn't adding much damage because the boss has 960 DEF or so, and Suzuran's damage amp is only amping her min damage

replacing her with Pozy or Rosa should be more than enough damage

[vocal leaf]

i know exia is not doing anything , just added her to proc schwarz talent

[tropic valve]

ah

[vocal leaf]

we can freeze second form right? i have an idea

[tidal sedge]

Any advice for IC-EX-6?

[high warren]

Ling+Lin clears most stuff with ease

[crystal cargo]

which one is that one?

[high warren]

This event suck cuz I've to use cars on some or I don't get extra reward

[vocal leaf]

cars are fun

[scarlet mortar]

https://youtu.be/9CyIQPrG97k

[tidal sedge]

This one

[crystal cargo]

oh, for that one you basically make an ifrit lane but with cars

well thats what i did

[tidal sedge]

Lol

This was my most recent attempt

[crystal cargo]

two blockers in front of blue box, then use mlynar to bait

[tidal sedge]

Boxer bro got thru

[crystal cargo]

and one to the left

[scarlet mortar]

this works

[tidal sedge]

[scarlet mortar]

just spam button and win

[crystal cargo]

what car setup

[scarlet mortar]

if you don't want to wait, replace the top right tile with myrtle and get DP quick

[crystal cargo]

yeah thats what i did too

top right myrtle as turner and left above ranged tile pioneer

[scarlet mortar]

then once you get into the permafreeze setup just drop eyja or sth on the crowd

[crystal cargo]

then replace later

[scarlet mortar]

freeze cars are broken

[crystal cargo]

paradoxial explosion is so good

ngl

especially with cold and push

[scarlet mortar]

the funny button

[tropic valve]

https://youtu.be/tKkisdWJlS8?t=1476
if you don't wanna worry about car setups, here's a no car clear

[crystal cargo]

cirno trying not to self promote challenge

[tidal sedge]

I want the mission reward tho

[scarlet mortar]

otaku i sent sth like 2 minutes ago

[tropic valve]

right, so you can just spam roads somewhere

[tropic valve]

(impossible)

[tidal sedge]

Fair

[crystal cargo]

what was the car setup for the 0 op clear btw

[tropic valve]

oh I just realized modY didn't exist when I filmed this, so the requirement should be lower now

[scarlet mortar]

freeze, bumper, faster cars, ?

the two middle slots don't matter

ah faster cars and faster cycling

that makes the cars cost 5 DP/5s refresh

speed is needed to constantly freeze mobs

since your DP is now neutered you need a vg to replace a turn tile to gen DP

[crystal cargo]

wait that guy did it manually?

nah im not doing allat

[tidal sedge]

Was minimalist just there for trust?

[scarlet mortar]

(strictly speaking you don't bc there's a minor time lag which nets positive DP)

mini was there to start the stage

[tidal sedge]

Ah

[scarlet mortar]

you can't start with nobody

[tidal sedge]

True

[scarlet mortar]

it's funny

i did it as a joke and then it actually worked

[tidal sedge]

That didnt look like 10 road tiles tho

[crystal cargo]

did you really press the button that much times

[scarlet mortar]

nah right when the last car was abt to die they started placing all the tiles

[crystal cargo]

im allergic to button pressing so i cant do that smh

[tidal sedge]

Ohh

[scarlet mortar]

hence i mentioned the cycle technically being DP positive

but just get a vg so you can also bring your dps once permafreeze is in

and not have to wait a decade

[tidal sedge]

👍

[vocal leaf]

my plan worked, well not exactly i was expecting to use horn s2 nuke, but he died too fast

[tropic valve]

a win is a win

[tidal sedge]

I couldnt tell which way the last tiles were facing bc they sped it up so much

[crystal cargo]

i recommend actually using ops

[tidal sedge]

👍

[high warren]

I wish I'd that 5 second cold status gear

Game don't want to me have a peaceful time in stages

[tidal sedge]

Boxer dudes pissing me off

[crystal cargo]

questionable placements ngl

[tidal sedge]

I realize that

[crystal cargo]

dp is an issue too ngl

[tidal sedge]

Yeah

Also that the boxer guys have bs dodge.

[high warren]

Got Lin/Ling ?

I didn't needed single car in NM

CM was goofy Lin was taking damage

But I coped somehow

Ah right there was task with using cars 💀

[tidal sedge]

Got it

Placement was a bit goofy and kinda spawn camped lol.

[quick pecan]

they have phys dodge use arts

[tidal sedge]

👍

Oh thats fun...

[polar crane]

use freeze mod and it doesn't matter

[quick pecan]

most of this event is cheesed by cars + one sniper

[polar crane]

who's that sniper

[quick pecan]

well for boss stages

[polar crane]

[quick pecan]

get minimalist cooked

[foggy grove]

don't cook a midget

[polar crane]

[tidal sedge]

Lol

[polar crane]

can I just skip shu entirely? too broke

[foggy grove]

save for ulpianus yeah

[quick pecan]

surely a third broken 6* male enmity

[polar crane]

too late already spent all the pulls

[turbid badge]

Sure

[quick pecan]

i kinda wanna spark for dusk but i need to pull hoederer and i only have 80 pulls rn

but i’m near next 6*

i can’t guarantee they don’t throw yet another hot male like 1-2 banners after though

at least zuo le is good

[shrewd gust]

When do we get TOP OPERATOR and SENIOR OPERATOR tags in recruitment?

[quick pecan]

it’s rng

[tepid sigil]

When we're lucky

[shrewd gust]

so I can get it when your acc lvl is 22 right?
If i am lucky

[tidal sedge]

Ye

[shrewd gust]

Nice

[quick pecan]

you can get it several times within a few days or be waiting for months to a year

i had a like three day period where i got a top op a senior op and a 5* tagless recruit

and now it’s been about two months since my last top op / senior op

[shrewd gust]

i see

i haven't gotten a single 5/6 star in recruitment

😶

[turbid badge]

learm tags pls

they can be hidden

under badic tags

for 5*

ak rec

[quick pecan]

ye

[turbid badge]

revruit calc

[quick pecan]

there are tag combinations that guarantee 5* which are cool

[turbid badge]

my tsuki pot 6

[shrewd gust]

where can we get that?

[quick pecan]

i cant believe i missed so many firewatch pots

i truly lost

[shrewd gust]

i mean tag combinations