strategy

[deft badger]

they keep spawning

[wintry sedge]

or until the swarm goes past block limit

[deft badger]

or not if i don't kill the firs tone

[dark glade]

The trick make it so the big fella doesnt spawn mini sheep

You deploy ops

And retreat instantly

And the sheep is gone

[deft badger]

dude i have nothing that can kill that guy

[dark glade]

No mouse?

[deft badger]

on top i have to place a healer so that tile is gone

[dark glade]

durnar

[high warren]

SL-5 should be doable with this right?

[deft badger]

i can block it but i have nothing that outputs enough dmg to pass that 1,5k def

[foggy grove]

very

[high warren]

Idk how to place stuff and my mlynar die often

[signal edge]

I have done all (cm not yet) with ling and mlynar most of the stages

[high warren]

Any placement ideas

[foggy grove]

make sure his tile is white when caster sheep comes

else bye bye

[high warren]

I turned it white but than it turned red

[dark glade]

I dont want to draw placement on s5

[high warren]

Turning it white costed good number dp

Maybe it's timing issue?

[spark sinew]

well gravel only baits the tornadoes

you might want to consider using slot for a different unit, depending

[high warren]

She's there for big sheep scam too

[spark sinew]

oh right

[deft badger]

hauck let me borrow ling 😄

minus has mod1 lol

lets try ling on ex7

[high warren]

Ah I should ditch that ling

Maybe for e1 30 platinum? Or e0 30 pr?

Idk

Ling doesn't provide much she can but not worth slots

I can maybe just use Elysium and use bagpipe as helidrops?

[spark sinew]

wdym ling doesn't provide much

should be really good

[spark sinew]

ruining my defender lineup

ling put

[high warren]

I don't have enough dp to make her useful and it take two slot just to make her useful

Maybe with s1?

Idk

[spark sinew]

dragons should tank both lanes pwell

if anything idk why you have cuora

[high warren]

Maybe if I'd skalter

[high warren]

For top

Left*

[dark glade]

Yea if you use dragon you wont need cuora nor rockrock

Those slot can be used for redeploy

Unless lvl 60 ling cant do it?

[high warren]

So I can mass on right side and left side just dragon?

S3 right?

[dark glade]

Thats what ive seen so far

You might need to bait big fella summon

[high warren]

Is there any clear with ling that way without skalter?

Reference would feel reassuring for my other placements

[spark sinew]

you can dragon both sides

[high warren]

Gravel

[dark glade]

The 3op clear doesnt use skalter right?

[high warren]

It uses

It heals dragons instantly with summon

And skill ofc

I wish there was more alternative to heal summon that's not cope perfumer

[spark sinew]

i mean you have other ops

just redeploy dragons

[unreal oar]

I need help with SL-S-5. i have nobody that can hold right lane (mountain) and it isnt even CM yet

[spark sinew]

a lot of stuff can hold right lane show ops

you can use a typical medic + guard combo

[unreal oar]

wont medics get blown up by caster sheep

[dark glade]

Nvm normal one is the one that doesnt use skalter

[sullen rover]

use someone to pop a soda so the medic is on white smoke

[unreal oar]

i'll give it a try

nvm its a fountain tile, they cant be smoked

unless you mean the tile further back

[sullen rover]

i used this tile

[deft badger]

well don't ask how since i don't know..

but ignore the mechanics is the way

[sullen rover]

dont ignore mechanic it will just make it uneccesary harder

[unreal oar]

i was meaning to place Silene Alter so she can help dps but she cant reach the tile infron of the guard this way

if my guard ever so slightly leaks, its tile will be pink again too...

[sullen rover]

im dont think theres an explosion there

unless you mean the tile the guard is on

[unreal oar]

ye the guard's tile

[sullen rover]

yeah i think the guard will die
your best bet is to kill those caster sheeps

[deft badger]

@spark sinew why are u X my ignore mechanics lol

wasn't a total ignore but, yeah it did work out

[spark sinew]

because you didn't ignore mechanics

even though this eyjalter placement is almost criminal

[deft badger]

why whats wrong with that hahaha

have to see if there is actually a guide for ex7 😄

[dark glade]

Healer on fountain tile is a crime

[deft badger]

she was in hiding dude since i didn't kill the casters at all let them walk up

[dark glade]

I will let that one slide bcause its on the edge tho

[unreal oar]

this does not work

[dark glade]

~~but by that logic my healer placement on s-5 is cursed asf

[deft badger]

casters?

do u have yato or where is ur mlynar actually just kill them

[dark glade]

Spec doesnt work?

Thats weird

Because e1 mountain does

And they do the same thing

[deft badger]

i think casters are melting him down

[unreal oar]

i think my spec is too weak

[dark glade]

Also is that silence alter?

[foggy grove]

Why the healer on geyser

[unreal oar]

i wanted silence to help spec out. but caster sheep will take her out

idk if my spec can handle the lane alone dps wise

[high warren]

Oh there's one without it?
Ig I should use it at least for NM and cope

Thanks ig

[dark glade]

Nm doesnt use skalter

The record anyway

Im sure with additional ops thats not skalter can work too

[unreal oar]

Mly takes one caster out but the other one will live. dont think yato can kill caster because that corner is pinked up

[deft badger]

yato can kill 2 of them right at spawn

[unreal oar]

teach me your ways

does ot work in CM too?

[high warren]

Shouldn't silence alter place downward?

[deft badger]

1sec i am in the kitchen or someone els does show it how till i am here 1min at least

[unreal oar]

E2 lv60, S3 lv7 Yato enough?

[dark glade]

Its not enough

[deft badger]

s3 soda yato over wall from right to left

someone did even post it like 2 days ago

[dark glade]

need m3

[deft badger]

there u go hauck did 😄

[dark glade]

need pause deploy for good efficiency

[deft badger]

my yato doesn;t have m3 s3

[spark sinew]

we know you don't raise good ops/skills

[unreal oar]

so S3 lv7 is enough?

[dark glade]

That placement can still 'spawncamp' caster

[fringe jackal]

Yeah this is what I did

[deft badger]

still have to do it

[spark sinew]

as i said

i'm in awe

[deft badger]

stfu... XD

[dark glade]

Put soda on f6, frd on f8
Mlynar should 2 slash the caster

[spark sinew]

you find out the worst way to use an op

[unreal oar]

humble operators

[spark sinew]

and do it

like that m1 qb

[deft badger]

hi gamepress does say breakpoint on m1

i am fine with m1 lol

[spark sinew]

?

that's 100% not what it says

unless it then goes "but you should m3"

[high warren]

Why your silence alter not face down? Is there some stage gimmick related to where op face?

[spark sinew]

yeah your specter probably just doesn't do enough damage

you can maybe do like saria lapp

[unreal oar]

she likes to look at specter

[spark sinew]

put white cloud under both

should only take 1 cola

[deft badger]

she gains that 1,5x dmg on m1 and it does say that btw i didn't wanna give her any mastery

[deft badger]

at least she got that m1 😄

[spark sinew]

that makes 0 sense but whatever

unless you didn't check that skill at all

[deft badger]

m1 1.5x dmg i am fine with that... bro i don't even use her

[unreal oar]

i have DP constrains. i need left side to be ready for dolly

[spark sinew]

can't you just put mly and let him tank it
i think saria should do fine early on

by fine i mean she probably won't die

put lapp later 🤔

didn't try it btw, but should work

[unreal oar]

then i need to spend DP to pop a bottle because saria cant do it

[spark sinew]

but of course

i mean it's 5 dp for a bottle and then whatever gravel costs

is the dp situation that bad

[unreal oar]

im a pessimistic thinker, ok?

ill give it a try

saria leaks

[dark glade]

Saria need friend

I use pozy

i also habe close to infinite dp

Altho mountain/specter + 1 dps to support should also be fine

And put healer in the back

[unreal oar]

tried lap+warf and it works but its too expensive

left side is not up in time

maaan, i just started to feel confident i am strong enough to get all event medals but this time around i make no progress in even the normal mode

i feel like giving up

[spark sinew]

actually

why don't you use bag s3 on the right

then retreat her and pause deploy to use specter

[deft badger]

can't he do solo right?

[spark sinew]

no

[deft badger]

does he suck that much 😄

[spark sinew]

i would insult your knowledge of the game instead but
block 1

find me anyone block 1 that holds it

[deft badger]

i thought he has 2

[spark sinew]

nvm maybe i should

[deft badger]

never used him, i don't have him, i just know he can heal 😄

btw which knowledge, the non existent?

[spark sinew]

calling every op bad

[dark glade]

Zuo Le just invalidate other musha

[spark sinew]

meanwhile you having them m1 and they're missing half their kit

all i see is hate for zuo

[dark glade]

I mean nobody use musha so valid

[spark sinew]

i mean all i see for other mushas is hate as well

[deft badger]

nah nah its u who calls every op bad
not me

[spark sinew]

difference is, i use them

[unreal oar]

to be fair every op pales in comparison to activate melantha skill

[deft badger]

i don't even know that melantha has a skill?

[spark sinew]

mushas are just awkward i do agree with other people

idr last using utage

but noir is just awkward as hell to use
other 2 have the same problem of being almost useless if they start blocking high def enemy

[quick pecan]

noir is a certified nerd op

[spark sinew]

i mean dodging hits is cool

[quick pecan]

people use him for gimmicky stalls

[spark sinew]

but his offskill capability is sad

[quick pecan]

like i believe the same ppl who do sleep nights will probably like noir

[spark sinew]

he's also very clearly 1v1 op

s2 for example is so so bad vs multiple enemies

[quick pecan]

i think the defense from talent is nice for dueling

kinda helps him deal with elites that bruise a bit more

but feels like his aspd only interacts with s1

it’s kinda whatever for s2

but yeah the fact that musha enjoyers were saying hellagur module makes him good

then they release zuo le who just invalidates every other musha

[spark sinew]

and people still shit on him

lol

[quick pecan]

those ppl are dumb

[spark sinew]

so greedy, never happy

[quick pecan]

i mean he’s not high end crazy meta

but i’d rate him above average

he’s both more offensive and defensive than every other musha while having cycles that make them look like they activate skill once a stage

💀

[spark sinew]

i honestly didn't look at his stats/whatever

ik he can spam skills, depending

[deft badger]

are u talking about this dude?

[quick pecan]

s2 is more spammable than s3 bc of the hp cut

[spark sinew]

is this just s2/s3

[civic bear]

if ur objective to maximize the sustain s3 is better tho

[spark sinew]

or his skills just being better than other mushas?

[unreal oar]

anyways, i give up. at least for today. maybe i feel like trying again tomorrow

[civic bear]

the skills are good

but the kit letting him turbo all those skill is what makes him

[deft badger]

ok i might even build that dude lol this looks like fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnXgDXNzI-Q&ab_channel=Windgesang

[quick pecan]

i think s2 is just the better skill

at least for consistency

it helps itself more than s3 helps itself

[spark sinew]

don't be fooled

noir sucks

🏃‍♂️

[deft badger]

w8 can u heal mushas with a healer?

[unreal oar]

i did ok, right guys?

[brave sun]

0/200 a rock can do better

[deft badger]

do that s5 don't know why it still isn't done

[echo dome]

[is3] why would one wanna go for ||the cursed+normal collectible as opposed to the normal collectible||? Just wondering which option i should pick.
Context of the ruun:
||surging waves 2, floor 5, ending 2, though no 80% reduction in def. I have a path that allows me to swap it, but taking that path makes me skip a safe house. Ops shown in second and third images||

[spark sinew]

why spoilers

[echo dome]

not sure how needed it iiss

i would not spoil if i could but thread on side of caution or sth

[spark sinew]

basically there are 2 broken collectibles

that scale with cursed ones

besides that, the top option gives you bigger "rarity" collectible

[dark glade]

And caster collectible that scale with collectible owned

[spark sinew]

(never was worth picking it before those above relics were added)

[echo dome]

ah

I cant get the 80% reduction anymore i presume

[spark sinew]

is this people oriented

[dark glade]

(altho for caster case its mostly not worth)

[echo dome]

yes

ppl oriented, tree not maxed though

[spark sinew]

ig you can go to safehouse if you want

would rather pick GG for low d

[echo dome]

I feel that either way given my squad my team will be dead though

[echo dome]

i no gg

[spark sinew]

than kal

[echo dome]

she evading me

wym low d though

[spark sinew]

i mean you're using support kal

surging waves

[echo dome]

ah

ye i would pick gg but random squad so cant do mmucch about it

[spark sinew]

gg is great for the ED2

[echo dome]

for sure

[dark glade]

Still possible to win this one tho right

Saria tank

Kal burst p2

[echo dome]

not sure how to route it though

[spark sinew]

block the boss with saria

yato texas kal phase 2

dice/whatever

[echo dome]

yato s2 or s3

cause fucking freeze

[spark sinew]

doesn't matter

yato ignores it

on both skills

[echo dome]

what

are you-

[spark sinew]

don't tell me you didn't use her because she got freeze debuff

she's like the only op that ignores it completely

[echo dome]

well good that i know now

wass considering using s3 cause i would assume that ignores cause even if she frozen she still slashing

[spark sinew]

i prefer s3 but s2 might work if she doesn't get oneshot

[echo dome]

ffor utillity isit

cause deals with enemy spam?>

[spark sinew]

i mean both just do damage

but yeah, essentially

she also can reach stuff that s2 can't

like through the walls etc

[echo dome]

ah fair

tbf i still need to get to the ending

which in is3, errr, nontrivial

[spark sinew]

you should cruise on d2

with 2 fast redeploys

[echo dome]

consider I suck at the game HAHA

[dark glade]

[spark sinew]

try s3, i think here yato might even oneshot manta rays (hovering guys)

[echo dome]

i mean if any yato can do it mine can do iit so

will try

[spark sinew]

idr if i used Mind over Matter (mom) or not

although yeah her dmg is a bit bs

[echo dome]

mom?

[spark sinew]

i remember oneshotting UFO with unbuffed yato on d0

i was like...wow

[spark sinew]

oh you meant from the boss

but yeah i think she still ignores it 🛌

i thought you got the freeze curse

[echo dome]

oh whoops

welp, I failed

saria tank didnt tank

[dark glade]

wait its modless

[echo dome]

which mod is the corrcet one

[spark sinew]

Y

although people argue a lot

but it's Y

[echo dome]

the second one(?)

[spark sinew]

good question

[echo dome]

weell for stalling at least

i dont have the brain to use s3

(?)

[spark sinew]

doesn't matter, if you only use s3 you should have saria lvl1 anyway

yeah this one

[echo dome]

wait why wha

[spark sinew]

because that's the copium they use

"i don't tank with saria anyway, she's s3 bot"

[dark glade]

is that doc pinned somewhere

[halcyon adder]

Zuo le

[spark sinew]

probably not i can give you an invititation to cursed discord server where it's pinned

some old faces there as well

[dark glade]

Oh god

[spark sinew]

[dark glade]

dm the link

Ill check later

[echo dome]

what doc oops

[halcyon adder]

Give

[spark sinew]

let me get to know you a bit more first https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTA6I0ffKjIubfoxd3GedgVScdQ2G90EFSlHzADsNP7nk5nXa8BNyW3beeUS8WD6UXRu8EfV3bBSoRI/pubhtml# take the doc for now

[timid acorn]

The document is pinned here

I am currently working on SL-S-5 and have exhausted all my practice drills for today. Does anyone have any thoughts on what could be changed or improved on when I get back to trying tomorrow.

At the current point the right side collapses towards the end of the first wave or partways through the second wave

everything else should be mostly solved despite what it looks like on the SS

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ur ranged tiles look funny

[deft nest]

I kind of don't want to pull for Typhon anymore, I like the cny banner a lot (also the fact that chong yue and lin are there)

[deft nest]

(I'm 1 month old)

[timid acorn]

emulator doesnt like water

[high warren]

How to know dolly skill timing to bait? I feel like coping without mlynar for sl-5

Seems too much op used for right lane

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah my experience using bluestack long time ago

[high warren]

Ines+Bagpipe+Ptilopsis
Even though it give dp can't keep 3 op forever

I wish eyja s3 cd wasn't that high or I'd use her for left lane

[timid acorn]

Ebenholz almost solos the left lane. He only struggles when 2 of the large sheep come in a short interval

[cyan gorge]

GG also solos left lane

[high warren]

I tried Angelina to slow them bit just to get eyja skill but she got one shot which my chalter never

Can chalter solo left?

I can throw some aid when 2 sheep come maybe

[cyan gorge]

Probably not without battery

[high warren]

I has ptilopsis if you meant for sp, if meant for stall idk, I've e1 Elysium too dunno if much use

He got that buff skill

Talent*

[spark sinew]

would rather use it for the dolly and clouds

[high warren]

Can prob cope with mlynar eyja s3 and surte

I think I can handle right side now if use Ines bagpipe and ptilopsis

And get dp going

[turbid badge]

Yes

[tidal sedge]

how do i clear sl-ex-2

idk what to do

[scarlet mortar]

that's the one with a morbillion flying sheep right

ok it is

ifrit lane

[glass monolith]

30k hp

[scarlet mortar]

the more standard strat would be to stun them like flies

[scarlet mortar]

most normal trash mob

[glass monolith]

It is like one of 4 elites on this event, and 30k was level of boss HP in past

[scarlet mortar]

honestly i'd borrow a kroos2 instead of ifrit and then bring all the aoe i have

[turbid badge]

i still want u back

[high warren]

Copium worked well that far than problem started on left lane

Than I retreat healer on right

And result is up

This is right ss btw

[spark sinew]

why'd you retreat a healer on the right

[high warren]

I didn't had anyone on left so it was copium move

Two sheep came

I used surtr and tank

Maybe I should've retreat limg

Was practise runs

I should've just baited those big sheeps for glitch maybe

At least seems doable now ☠️

[turbid badge]

done.

[quick pecan]

ez ines sweep

[deft badger]

🧠

forgot that gladiia can stand on range tiles..

[glass monolith]

Skateboard sheep which is pull/push immune: This is my final message, goodbye (leak sound)

[deft badger]

he killed it already

[glass monolith]

Let me have my portion of fun will you

[deft badger]

ines revealed it

but i wanna know how is that ines alive

lol

[glass monolith]

.... How much hp is skateboard anyway?

Because Ines in temporary, sword is forever

[deft badger]

then how did gladiia output enough dmg to kill them some stuff doesn't make sense to me

[turbid badge]

lul

[glass monolith]

There is literally 3 possibility at deleting game in here and 1 more reveal because why not (most likely not even S2)

[vernal lion]

nice boss lmao

[spark sinew]

what's the base weight

[vernal lion]

that is like those enemies from lone trail

[spark sinew]

8?

[vernal lion]

10

[deft badger]

i wanted to think he found a smart afk way

did try to ignore that yato lol

[glass monolith]

Ping me to build Blue poison during next dead week

[glass monolith]

Boss: Has 3000/4000 ATK.
Also boss: lose 80% stats

Also it is literally elite boy from Lone Trait

Which i killed by Kroos alter in 80% cases they appear

[glass monolith]

I will Quartz S2 this shit

[orchid talon]

Kyo’s low end squad for sl -s-5 cm is so psychotic lmao what an absolute gigachad hero

[cosmic thicket]

Leotse's is simpler

[turbid badge]

thats suppose to eb a boss)

[vernal lion]

noodles boss

[glass monolith]

that thing suppose to have 3000 base ATK too

[glass monolith]

Also what the f is deal with hydration

[vernal lion]

boss can use the polluted water to nuke all your ranged op

[glass monolith]

It is not okey dokey

[deft badger]

that thing looks weird

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L4u4HjJV20&ab_channel=LeoTse96

[spark sinew]

ling mly is now low end squad

[tall cairn]

only low end players use Ling anyways.

[spark sinew]

baseknight slander

[tall cairn]

Ling has been removed.

[cosmic thicket]

Don't forget

(same for H10-3)

[quick pecan]

wait actually lmfaoo that’s so funny

[cosmic thicket]

It also used an e2 ptilopsis

[tall cairn]

[cosmic thicket]

He has yet to publish the H12-4 low end btw

I don't blame him

[quick pecan]

kyo bros lost

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBpwmQI5KJw&ab_channel=YesTerry

[loud edge]

What's H12-4?

[acoustic fox]

i ended up using golden glow to pop two bottles for SL-S-5 CM

[loud edge]

Ok so what I don't remember every stage in the game

[spark sinew]

oh the cyclops lady attacks pretty fast

[tall cairn]

“Easiest” stage in the game.

[loud edge]

Yeah sorry this isn't ringing any bells

It does seem familiar

[deft badger]

[deft badger]

ain't going to say what i think lol

[loud edge]

Say it

[deft badger]

nah its fine no need to do..

[loud edge]

Do it

[polar crane]

you will know soon enough

[tropic valve]

you'll enjoy it, it's fun

[tropic valve]

Gas trucks my beloved

[jovial nest]

Needs more stacks

[spark sinew]

should've retreated bad ops

[jovial nest]

Surtr dropped way too early i think

But i guess the immortality procs too fast if she drops later?

Nah, it already procced immortality so doing it later mightve killed it

[fiery marsh]

Finnaly free from this sheepocalypse

Felt so smart with this gladia spalter combo for left lane

[tropic valve]

nice

do Gladiia + Splatter do the whole left lane without help?

[somber stone]

How is s-5 compared to 3

[peak cloak]

depend on players.

i feel both are kind easy with right strats

[foggy grove]

[spark sinew]

wtf

[somber stone]

Akafuyu usage

[foggy grove]

so spammy and resilient

[serene fjord]

SL-MO-1

[fiery marsh]

Yeah, in cm you need a early White cloud tho. In normal mode just when the big guys stack

The Good thing is that is the only cloud you will need for left lane

[spark sinew]

that's a fun combo

i never really thought about it

should work with other pullers as well or even pushers ig?

[fiery marsh]

Probally, but gladia cuts the need of a healer

Maybe a pusher in that one high tile in spalter's front works

[tropic valve]

most people find S-5 harder I think

casters aren't a thing in S-3 for some reason

[somber stone]

What’s the cm

[foggy grove]

dolly has 1 more shield on phase 1

[spark sinew]

isn't it both phases

[fiery marsh]

Only first, thanks God

[acoustic fox]

grats

U can get dolly down to one shield by when he starts moving

by the time he starts moving

[kindred galleon]

what the fuck s-4 cm one shots a hoshi backed w a saria

[verbal sparrow]

how does levitate work with white / pink steam?

just curious

[peak cloak]

your hoshi in pink smoke?

[strange hazel]

how do people start getting into optimized (low op) clears for a stage

[polar crane]

remove vanguard and medic as a start

[strange hazel]

do you play the stage with a full squad then cut

[polar crane]

then pick and ban certain op you bored of

[foggy grove]

but what if my medic is reed

[polar crane]

reed is a caster for low op

[strange hazel]

or do you know the stage well enough to construct 'ok this caster here, this defender, and this frd should be enough, so ill try to make it work from here'

[gray stone]

Theorycrafting

[polar crane]

hit it until it hit you

[gray stone]

You underestimate the extent the nerds can take this game

[polar crane]

just try and fail

[strange hazel]

do most of the arkrec records have damage spreadsheets and all that

[gray stone]

No, that's CC tbh

[strange hazel]

i've never gone beyond 'this operator kills x in y shots' or vice versa

[weak gazelle]

optimized strat is the best part playing this game

[gray stone]

Harder stages will probably have theorycrafters

Let's not forget the nerds that optimize clear time

[strange hazel]

yeah i'm staying away from that with a 30 foot pole

[gray stone]

They are the most likely to do damage calculation sheets

Outside of CC max

[strange hazel]

also is it this or the other way around

i've only gotten the other way to ever work when the min operators is obviously 2 or something

[turbid badge]

use lingi

or dorothy

or

[strange hazel]

(i'm trying to get into 4*'s. not trying to break any records, but for my own personal enjoyment)

[gray stone]

Probably usual low op setup then cut

[turbid badge]

oh

[gray stone]

Oh 4 stars?

[strange hazel]

(not that i could break any records, CN and silvergun have that handled)

[gray stone]

They clear stuff then try to cut down ops

[weak gazelle]

you mean first blind run?
if that i set my default between 6-8 ops

[turbid badge]

yea

clear than cut

[gray stone]

4 stars don't have the luxury of just jumping straight into low op

[weak gazelle]

and optimizng start from there

[gray stone]

A lot of hard stages start with 13

[strange hazel]

so basically have a moderate (non full team) then decrease

for easier stages

[gray stone]

You can also take the previous records then cut

[strange hazel]

on the bright side i'm newer and have way less resources to dump into 6*'s

[gray stone]

Like the 8 to 7 step SL-S-5 CM AFK

[weak gazelle]

easier one just use full slot
and from that start optimizing

[strange hazel]

there's a 7 step AFK?

[gray stone]

Near identical strats

[strange hazel]

honestly insane

[gray stone]

Suzuran S2 gamers

[weak gazelle]

low step are the laziest one imo
but usually fit for veteran players due to their roster being highly stacked

[gray stone]

They are probably the easiest one to do due to the nature of the category

[turbid badge]

yea

[gray stone]

With the only bar being money

[weak gazelle]

anyway change of topic
when shu banner released on CN?

[turbid badge]

already

[tidal sedge]

2 days ago

[weak gazelle]

ohh interesting
wanna see their review

[latent anvil]

shu is so op

[turbid badge]

shu is op

[foggy grove]

is op

zuo

[weak gazelle]

so next week i can get to see the full review on her

[polar crane]

[tidal sedge]

Wan Qing s2 grants 120~ hps to ops in surrounding 8 tiles. If ops in area also face same direction as him, grants +25 aspd. Same cycle and initial sp as Ely s2. Talent grants minor max hp to allies in surrounding 8 tiles. Slightly more if they face same direction as him

[strange hazel]

what's the drawback with s3, can't you just lock literally every ground enemy for 30 seconds

[foggy grove]

25 apd mlynar fr

[weak gazelle]

seeing it again closely look like she is broken
curious how it work with summon
especially ling summon

are summon count as part of sui(?)
if so that would be awesome

[tidal sedge]

Grain Buds is basically Proviso redux. S1 is 5 sp auto recovery powerstrike, but hits 2 targets. S2 immediately sleeps 3 targets on cast for 5 seconds, attacks up to 3 targets for attacks throughout duration, gains sufficient aspd for gapless slow throughout duration. 15 duration. 25 sp cost.

[polar crane]

wish she have proviso tier base skill

[foggy grove]

i need proviso tier for gold factory

she drained it too fast

[weak gazelle]

idk lurk
5* ops look disaster to me

[tidal sedge]

Wan Qing even?

[weak gazelle]

welfare one uhh....
i will treat it as another windflit tier

[tidal sedge]

I would've figured Wan Qing s2 granting competitive aspd to Elysium would be of interest to you

[weak gazelle]

but i can see WQ will have some very rare niche use

[tidal sedge]

You have an interesting perspective as per usual.

[foggy grove]

windflit tier

[weak gazelle]

hahaha
well that... thanks

[turbid badge]

he like never ever used

i saw him in some wierd supporterknight clears

never anywhere else

[weak gazelle]

i can only see bibeak, gamiya, brawler, rock2, and sniper will get the benefit from him

even then it require placement

well hope i am wrong tho

[kindred galleon]

how does the cloud mechanic work

[gray stone]

Well, 5 stars are lacking an aspd buffer, but +25 is not very noticable

[south bone]

white good, pink bad

[kindred galleon]

but how

[south bone]

soda good give white to adjacent, sheep bad keeps giving pink

[gray stone]

Pink cloud = enemy
White cloud = ally
Standing on a friendly cloud, makes you take 50% less damage. Standing on a hostile cloud makes you take 50% more damage. This effect is shared by both teams

[south bone]

^

[kindred galleon]

ah

[void terrace]

25 is half an aak buff tho

Plus shu also give aspd now. And a lot of it

[gray stone]

Under those conditions it's pretty bad

[void terrace]

Soon we will be having SSS aspd in normal operationssss

Really?

[gray stone]

15s buff on a 30/15 cycle

[turbid badge]

how much

is it her talent

[void terrace]

25 from s3

12 from her tallent

So 12 permenant plus 25

That's 37. Plus saileach can get you to 50

Plus 25 from wanqing

75 aspd on quick cycles

If you can add an aak buff

[turbid badge]

im still waiting for the day they make a cracked aspd buffer

[void terrace]

That's 125 aspd. Probably can double Chen S3 or fill back up executors so bar within duration of his s3

And since it's on a short cycle

[turbid badge]

he need 66 aspd to attack twice within 1s to freeze

(gnosis)

i should have enough with shu

if i get her that is

[void terrace]

Goldenglow can easily get 75 aspd on quick cycle

[turbid badge]

this is the bare minimum

tho

[void terrace]

Only for duration of her skill up and wanqing skill up tho

[surreal star]

gnosis aspd should be +58 minimum to freeze

since he needs a 1 sec interval and frames get rounded

[turbid badge]

oh

hm

ill try it in SSS

[surreal star]

i tried 60 aspd in sss and he froze

[turbid badge]

oh

should probably get ange 2nd mod

57 works

but not consistent

i like how im one off

atleast 60 works

ah still not enough

angelina saileach ayer shu passive cant reach that hih

trollsis

atleast i can give everyone a aak buff with the cost of all these slots but atleast they’re good operators

well not everyone cuz they need to be in range

[kindred galleon]

honestly the worst dps check ever

for some reason it sometimes doesnt drop a star when popping soda bottles

[sullen rover]

suzu + mlynar sweep

[scarlet mortar]

150 -> 200 hp shield

soda still pops for 50 hp

[kindred galleon]

😔

[kindred galleon]

bruh i like how everyone's going erato on MO cuz we're all typhonless

[foggy grove]

i don't

[cyan gorge]

You use Erato cause Typhon cope, I use Erato cause birb agenda
we are not the same

[vivid rain]

You use Erato because birb agenda, i dont have erato
we are not the same

[foggy grove]

i just use ol krooster

[turbid badge]

tf

[kindred galleon]

cheeses the flying sheep

[cosmic thicket]

i used krooster and cliffheart

[timid schooner]

mfw no erato and use toter s1 lmao

or just taxes s3 it

[agile perch]

Ash is same on mo

Just you have to be there

Unfortunately

[void terrace]

Mo is fiametta land

Fire chicken for the win

Tho I don't have S3m3 so had to settle for S2 T-T

[turbid badge]

bro

this was so scuffed

reedic is OP

she wipes the witch sheep with a ez white powder

lol

[quick pecan]

i need to buy a mulberry skin

she’s so pretty

[turbid badge]

i didnt use krooster

until the wnd

which than i was like

fucck lets go but just incase

[quick pecan]

my executor is almost e2

need chips

[turbid badge]

i had times in that map where i just dp printed and didnt swap pink to white so i can redeploy cuz the previous wave wiped everyoje

saria and qb slapping skateboard for 5 damage while i wait 60 secs to redeloy dead cat

[quick pecan]

i need this skin to come back

[turbid badge]

fish skin

[quick pecan]

the fish skin is prettier but i like the effects on this one more

[void terrace]

Hmmm

Passenger is actually pretty good in s-5

He can consistently hold the left lane with ptilo battering him

He's on the sp mod tho

[tropic valve]

hmm I tried level 80 Passenger with mod1 but he didn't have enough SP

didn't bring Ptilopsis though

[void terrace]

Oh mines mod3 T-T

[tropic valve]

ah

[void terrace]

Still needs someone to block

Or just flametail or saga

[tropic valve]

I found that maxed out Astgenne + May hold left lane

[void terrace]

Damnnnnnn

[crystal cargo]

This is what happens when you use sail s3

[turbid badge]

what

nice analysis

[shell arch]

???

[turbid badge]

should of faced her difg

[wicked viper]

basic common sense doko

[shell arch]

I have no common sense and I have no idea what you're referring to

[turbid badge]

common sense doki

[tidal sedge]

Have her face right. Flags are block count padding anyways, getting vent debuff is whatever

[wicked viper]

this is a case of "if there is no problem, create the problem yourself

[tepid sigil]

He's the definition of "problem" himself

[wicked viper]

"if there is no problem, be the problem"

[tepid sigil]

Fr

Btw what's the perfect ops to trust farm the defender chip stage?

Can lin ignore the poison?

[peak cloak]

hey Bayuputra, u still need the so long adele lobby images? i reworked images

[tepid sigil]

Am not the one asked that btw

But I'd like to if you don't mind sharing it

[wicked viper]

can't ya just

mountain + mudrock on either side?

[vocal leaf]

mountain and penance

[wicked viper]

or even gladiia + spalter

just double lane holders

i don't think there's anyone can solo it iirc

[tepid sigil]

Wanna do it to promote my mudrock

[wicked viper]

let me check

e1 mudrock work

[tepid sigil]

Oh

There's no need to E2 then

[wicked viper]

ye no solo

[tepid sigil]

Daym

[wicked viper]

no one have both self heal and enough range to cover both lane

[tepid sigil]

Aight then, thx

[high warren]

Is it just me or they made stage for mlynar to spawn kill

[tidal sedge]

He was made waaaay after that stage first appeared

[high warren]

What those heat wave do btw

[tidal sedge]

If op faces same direction as vent air on tile with vent air: atk buff
If op faces opposite direction: atk debuff

[scarlet mortar]

also enemies move faster or slower if they're moving with/against the vents, but that's irrelevant here

[scarlet mortar]

grudgebearers:

good ol days of touching one flag and suddenly wait why is everyone retreated

[loud halo]

/tags

Blue6

/cert6

[polar crane]

my beloved #strategy

[tidal sedge]

Theres #bot-spam for this

[south bone]

sir this is #strategy

[tired rover]

Hey guys I'm currently at 5-3, is my team really under leveled for this or is this still doable?

[void terrace]

You might want to E2 a 4 star to start borrowing units

[tired rover]

who should I aim to e2 first?

[tidal sedge]

That should be doable with your team as is. Does Matoi not kill caster fast enough?

[tired rover]

courier dies too fast

[foggy grove]

don't open with courier

oh nvm it's not cm

[peak cloak]

do you want to borrow support units?

[tired rover]

Not if possible

[peak cloak]

fine

[tired rover]

I'll just probably farm ls for now

[surreal star]

@loud halo keep bot tags in #bot-spam please

[foggy grove]

nah your team is fine
how did courier dies so fast tho?

[tired rover]

This is what I did but it is probably bad

[deft badger]

is it stuck just for me?

[tired rover]

oh it broke

[peak cloak]

i can watch it

[tired rover]

I cant send it without it getting stuck rip

[deft badger]

i mean i can play it but its not moving at all 😄

[tired rover]

oh nvm it works

[deft badger]

nvm did download it

btw go get ur self a e2

then u don't have to melt ur brain down around story stages

[tired rover]

Guess I really have to use support

[deft badger]

not really

but u can do up to jt8 without killing ur brain cells

did u clear something in the event shop?

[tired rover]

clear what?

[deft badger]

this part at least

[tired rover]

I haven't yet

[deft badger]

3 days left btw... go do it 2nd thing if u want a e2 like now

go in to IS its sanity free

they did even unlock 2 days ago IS3 monthly squads

u can at least e2 two of ur ops

[tired rover]

Ok ok I'll focus on those for now

[deft badger]

don't know if u have more 6 stars but u can do thorns may

there are enough mats in the event shop and IS2-3 monthly rewards for doing

[tired rover]

Thorns is the only 6* I have so I will probably do that

[deft badger]

yeah do him and may probably

[peak cloak]

basically, your deployments are a bit messed up. try to hold mid right, top right. no need to hold mid left.

like what u did with Courier

[deft badger]

btw u don't have to clear stage after stage, in the event to get rewards u can spam the one u are able to auto for now just lower ur sanity go to IS do monthlies 2e thorns so that u can borrow e2s then clear more u have 3days left u can clear like 80% of the shop in that time

and for the future focus on events if there is a event running burn ur sanity in there

May, Click, Gummy, Cutter, Perfumer, Vigna
don't know which 5 stars u have but those are worth getting a e2 if u don't have something better early on

u can get tequila as well 5 star liberator

from here

all that is more worth doing right now then going in to story and wasting time there for no rewards

[tired rover]

Time to do those and come back later to story, Thankgs guys

[deft badger]

u will not even come back since u are going to overrun them lol

[random widget]

This stage looks simple but it has so much

[foggy grove]

it's simple tho

[loud halo]

sorry, i must have been confused when typing bot tags

[deft badger]

nah i give up on doing IS3 this early, its just total garbage
my ops are getting destroyed, still consider IS2 to be much easier then IS3

[scarlet mortar]

drop a bottle on the left caster, cexas it, 2 laneholders

stage's basically done

dusk was enough to dps top lane and highmore bot lane, it's free

[fresh copper]

Don't you literally just borrow Texas Alter for the start of IS3 and then just take whatever from there?

[deft badger]

don't know if its me and i am just wrong at thinking this way or what's the problem, but i have cleared IS2 already 4 times and can't pass floor 2 in IS3
saw actually stupid squid one time and got destroyed

[scarlet mortar]

sw0?

[fresh copper]

Wait floor 2?

Floor 2 seems pretty simple to me

[scarlet mortar]

is this just sanguinarch legacy ratio again

[deft badger]

btw god forbid i leak one add, i can insta reset

[scarlet mortar]

nnnah

[deft badger]

in case one of my ops gets useless xD

[scarlet mortar]

i do doro starts and leak like 4

[tall cairn]

Leaking is fine.

[scarlet mortar]

sw0 ending 1 curses barely matter

sw7 we might have to play smart

[tall cairn]

Even sw15 you only reset if metastatic gets onto your core ops.

[deft badger]

i am talking about my alt

and i don't have to many options here

[tall cairn]

Just have to grind the talent tree.

[deft badger]

atm i see just one option run IS2 borrow that thorns since i at least clear all of it with thorns and eyja without any kind of problems rotate back to IS3 later
wanted to do IS3 since everyone is saying its easier but i don't know i am just not able to or to stupid

[scarlet mortar]

yh if it'a a newer account you're a bit shafted

stat buffs and bonus die carry

not to mention the squad upgrades

[tropic valve]

hmm that's unusual

usually people find IS2 harder

are you perhaps finding your ground units dying to Broodmothers?

if so, the key is to kill them with ranged ops, OR have a 0 block ground op who tanks broods

[scarlet mortar]

0 block ground ops aren't ideal bc they're. ambushers 90% of the time

[tropic valve]

that's exactly why they're ideal

ambushers are crazy good

[scarlet mortar]

negative taunt

[tropic valve]

well if you have other ground units then yeah

ambushers will do nothing in terms of tanking

[scarlet mortar]

yh so the actual strat is more don't rely on blocking until you have to

[deft badger]

its probably just me because i spend grinding IS2 with with 2 ops as well when i started, IS3 came later i did have just a bunch of e2s and was able to overrun it to grind it out
i mean yes IS3 squid boss is easier then phantom but yeah i can't even get there lol

[scarlet mortar]

e.g. that stage with the stealthed guys

[tall cairn]

Could you display your roster.

[polar crane]

where can I find this enemy

[tall cairn]

sarkaz leader?

[scarlet mortar]

some RA stage

that's abt all ik

[polar crane]

6 months to cure the missing enemy file

[deft badger]

i don't have much to work with...

[scarlet mortar]

oh no cirnobyl got him

joever

not having E2 4*s is gonna make things rough

[tall cairn]

Thankfully, Schwarz is not a bad op.

[scarlet mortar]

or just generally multiple E2 ops

[deft badger]

if i just grind IS2 out that will not be a problem anyway

since i will have couple e2s till end of this week

next week actually its SA already

[tropic valve]

Schwarz pretty much takes care of your damage needs, so it comes down to understanding the maps

for example, against Saint you take Schwarz S2, but against Pathshaper or Bishop you take Schwarz S3

[deft badger]

i think i do lol

[scarlet mortar]

nah but they're getting stat checked kinda hard if that's a new account

unbuilt tree, less relics unlocked

[void terrace]

Damn trying to get all endings on all squads is such a slog

[tropic valve]

if you have any specific maps that you find troublesome, perhaps we can help come up with counterplans

[deft badger]

its not about maps my ops are just getting destroyed and i don't remember having that kind of problem on my main

[tall cairn]

It’s the trust gains and talent tree.

[scarlet mortar]

grow your tree

[tropic valve]

yeah the tree is pretty big

[deft badger]

btw what did u say about schwarz M1 her at least?

[tall cairn]

Yeah M1 Schwarz S3.

It’s one extra tile range.

[tropic valve]

S3M1 is the range breakpoint, eventually you want to get S2M3 and S3M3

[vernal lion]

I just realize, the human race in Arknights is called Earthling

because R6S squad is it

[deft badger]

what's with u and those r6 ops lately

we lost cirno to schwarz, gonna lose naga to tachanka

[tropic valve]

indeed

on that note, I just ran some calcs so I figured I'd share: in a single Dolly cycle (12 sec), without factoring in steam, a maxed Mlynar deals 30k damage and a maxed Schwarz deals 29k damage, so it's very close

[spark sinew]

calc mly with pots if you're still on it

i'm curious how much i am missing out on this event

[tropic valve]

it's with pot6

what pot do you have?

[spark sinew]

just do p1

[tall cairn]

Yeah wanna see p1 vs p1.

[tropic valve]

Mlynar does 26k at p1

[spark sinew]

schwarz probably outdamages ~~ is this mly without x3 enemy buff~~

[tall cairn]

Okay so 4k wtf.

[tropic valve]

so you're missing out on 4k

[tall cairn]

[tropic valve]

yeah I'm not counting 3x enemy buff

[spark sinew]

do you count smoke? i remember seeing some screenshots in this channel and it was like 500 difference per swing

between p1 and p5

[tropic valve]

Schwarz does 27k at p1

she loses 2k damage

[spark sinew]

oh right..,12 seconds
damn, 4k in 12 seconds

[tropic valve]

I'm not counting smoke

so it's 1.5x if you have white smoke

[spark sinew]

without smoke or 3x enemy buff

strong pots

[tropic valve]

yeah strongest ATK pot in the game be like

I'd like to get him to pot4...eventually

you could always borrow a p6

[tall cairn]

🛌 pots.

[vernal lion]

times to do mod missions

[dark glade]

Wtf thats a question from yesterday

Also nice i can just buy royal pots

Wait but bibeak pots means certs

Weirdchamp

[spark sinew]

might want to ask a person who already bought her

maybe they just don't show up

[dark glade]

Shu shared it in help yesterday

He has it

And he talk about certs

[glass monolith]

It shows her potential not her, buying potential directly don't give certs

[dark glade]

But that step 1 showing her no...

[glass monolith]

It is convert of old CC shop to new one

It won't spawn new one

It if you don't own her for whatever reason she will be on new CC perm shop

[dark glade]

Also buting pots mean you can trade the token in cert shop like other event

[glass monolith]

1 cert for new operator

[dark glade]

Or am i missing something here

Thats HS shop

[glass monolith]

If you own bibeak but no potentials it will be just missing potential, it won't be NEW bibeak

Or they rerun her for whatever reason?

Fuck ti don't care

[dark glade]

'if alr max pot cant buy it'

Oh thanks low masta

So it only appear if you dont have pots

[tall cairn]

Scam.

[round tiger]

Help me with LS-4 please... Been retrying 5 times and still failed.

[dark glade]

So whats the point of her appearing on new cc shop

[spark sinew]

to scam people out of CC currency

[dark glade]

I usually do ls-4 on e1
Also rangers for drone but thats optional

[spark sinew]

realistically it's probably backlash from adding it to CC so they addded her to shop

[pearl breach]

I want my money back

[spark sinew]

i don't understand event mechanics at all

[round tiger]

Ah so I need to promote most of my unit first... Okay, thank you.

[dark glade]

you water the crops

[glass monolith]

You attack boss, it dies, good event

[spark sinew]

like what is this

[glass monolith]

Water blocker

[tall cairn]

Farming. Nice.

[tall cairn]

Wdym. Best event mechanic was clearly exe’s.

[spark sinew]

is this another ines shill event...

[tall cairn]

Suiciding civilians and an unkillable boss.

[vernal lion]

#cn-lounge message

[glass monolith]

Unkillable boss who can be slowed by Mostima/Ines to make it kill civilians by placing them in front of rock spawner

[tall cairn]

Even better.

[vernal lion]

you can call it a Dam

[spark sinew]

the strat is to kill them on those it seems

[glass monolith]

You ask person who thinks water formula is HO2 (yes, i have bad chemistry grades) to know word "Dam"

[vernal lion]

lmao HO2

[void terrace]

Whats the new update on the cc shop tho 0_o

[vernal lion]

I can feel like Skalter with Suzu mod3 and Shu get like 20% atk buff tho

almost 100 atk bonus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lONg6qRwpgg&ab_channel=pard파드

[tropic valve]

Proviso actually kinda cracked

I used her for S-2 and she applied white steam so fast

[deft badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMj_tADbfE4&ab_channel=Tsalthsu%2F소은설

thinking about e2 my swire

[spark sinew]

not surprised

[deft badger]

why

[spark sinew]

you like making decisions based on like one showcase

instead of being content with what you have and improving the units that are stuck at m1

[tall cairn]

Showcases feel so disingenuous, because they put the op in the best possible situation.

[civic bear]

Duh

[deft badger]

stop talking about my QB she is the only op stuck at m1 with exu

[vernal lion]

IS3 is finally to its end

time to prepare for IS4

[deft badger]

when is4?

[vernal lion]

not so far

Typhon event supposes to be happened first