strategy

[jovial nest]

for anyone interested.

these are the maff calcs based on stream

[dark violet]

in dorothy we trust

[jovial nest]

10% shelter, +12% max HP, damn.

also if talent 1 is worded like that

[tropic valve]

what part of SL-S-4 is breaking?

[jovial nest]

Shu just needs to have an operator adjacent to her 4 directions

and she also gets Shelter

[jovial nest]

its always top right lane

[surreal star]

she can also heal herself for grass

[vernal lion]

consider that the map has only 1 bluebox

[jovial nest]

talent 1 cannot trigger on herself based on wording

[tidal sedge]

you cant just say in dorothy in trust without saying what you mean

[jovial nest]

unless she is "allies" too

[surreal star]

iirc she planted on herself in the showcase

[tropic valve]

I and I think others too have been using Fedex for top right lane

[jovial nest]

NICE!

ok so....

Naga

we've considered the tankiness of Saria with max Rhine Suit harges

[dark violet]

dorothy drops 2 mines when deployed, and the mines nuke the tornado sheep. Also slowing down for a while. She's a great opener with vanguards

[jovial nest]

and her 15% DR on mod

how does it compare to Shu's Shelter buff + ModY DR

cause for Saria it's mostly just ATK/DEF improvements iirc

[tidal sedge]

which mines do you use i mean

[dark violet]

my start for 4 cm

[vernal lion]

yes

[dark violet]

dorothy always uses s3

s2 in specific IS conditions

[jovial nest]

Shu wouldn't have the 30% DEF but she will have the 15% DR from Y and Shelter from her own talents

[tidal sedge]

alright thanks ill try it

ive been meaning to level dorothy anyway i suppose

[jovial nest]

that makes her worse for physical (compared to Saria) but better for other damage types?

or am i missing some other maffs?

[dark violet]

once you taste dorothy gaming, you can't go back

[vernal lion]

if the physical dmg is not too high, it will be fine to tank

we have RA boss with 4k atk iirc

[dark violet]

tactical mine drops map wide is just too neuron activating

[jovial nest]

if a physical damage can kill Saria, it's usually why I'm considering my Boss Duelist role (Hoed/Gladiia+Spelter)

[tidal sedge]

im more a gnosis gaming myself and tried using him there but i dont have flagpipe starts so its been hard dp gen wise

[dark violet]

hopefully it works for you

[tidal sedge]

which is why im concerned about dorthy who also needs dp to make use of the mines

[dark violet]

for 4 I used 2 vanguards yeah

[flint falcon]

my mumu would love a dorothy

[tidal sedge]

even with 2 vanagurds its not fast enough, i would flagpipe IF i had bagpipe

[turbid badge]

0 res lol 😂

[vernal lion]

Ceobe noice

[tidal sedge]

people say this alot, why

[dark violet]

the order I did here was dropping texas first, then dorothy, she can take 2 hits from wizard sheep, meanwhile you get enough dp to place flametail and bottle can for texas. Finally placing the medic, they're all in white fog and have mines ready to stop the onslaught

[vernal lion]

because mumu summon copy stat and trait from the op

[surreal star]

considering only defensive stats that's basically it besides shu's hp buff
if you include their healing, shu has her 70 hps vs saria's atk buff

[tidal sedge]

then how do you get Mudrock in the top right in time

[dark violet]

the trick to using dorothy is that the cost of her mines reimburses itself by slowing down the enemies, so you get more time back (and dp) from one 3 dp cost mine

[jovial nest]

i'm shaking....am i seeing Shu module be DR 15% AND Shelter talent improvements?

or am i coping?

[flint falcon]

good range, decent stat, attack interval less than an aa sniper
mumu's talent also takes 2 dp off doro, not used often but could come in a pinch when needed

[surreal star]

it's 15% healing under 50%

[dark violet]

I don't use high cost ops, used splatter/AH for that

[jovial nest]

FUCK

[sly drift]

Who is Shu. Why blue name spoil future content

[surreal star]

new defender in cn

[tidal sedge]

splatter?

[dark violet]

specter alter

[tidal sedge]

ik

but im just confused how on earth you get the clouds white with that

[vernal lion]

that's modX, isn't it

[dark violet]

white fog where? top right?

[ancient hearth]

Isn't this in the tutorial?

[vernal lion]

modX has 15% more heal when op is 50% hp lower

[jovial nest]

it is

sih

at least ModY hits the max HP talent at least

and ASPD too

[dark violet]

base skills info?

[tidal sedge]

yeah how do you get your splatter to hit the bottles from where she is while blocking

[dark violet]

her s3 is aoe hit

also that's where dorothy helps too

you place mines to hit the bottles

from the tornado spawns

[tidal sedge]

hmm

[ancient hearth]

melee ops can hit bottles on high ground within range

[dark violet]

not when blocking, unless aoe

[vernal lion]

to anyone wondering, S-4 has Ifrit lane

[tidal sedge]

not when blocking bro

[tidal sedge]

ill try it, thanks

[dark violet]

the best way to guarantee a bottle break is to have 1 mine aiming, another one 2 tiles away, so when tornado triggers the first and the second one kills tornado, you can place the mine just before the sheep spawns, hitting the bottle again

(that's only if you can only have 1 mine targetting the bottle, standard is just spamming mines around it)

[jovial nest]

Oh, so S3 has some great use outside of just undoing leaks.

and it's not a bad buff

especially if it includes her conditional talent that adds more ASPD too

I might go back to Hoed because of this. Sure, he might not get the Shelter improvements. But the Max HP and more ASPD is huge already

[dark violet]

mmh, that's good

but I think I'll keep using skalter instead

true damage go brr

[jovial nest]

i see

so far there has been so many dangerous arts damaging going so I really like the max HP stuff helping ranged and melee ops survive the harass

[dark violet]

yeah that's fair

I usually power through with perfumer s2

[jovial nest]

now i just have to make up my mind if it's worth kicking out Saria's S3 slow/arts debuff field over Shu's buff sharing

[jovial nest]

shit I forgot that with Hoed I can give anyone on his cardinal directions a Shelter too (although only one).
So the consideration now to Shu is the max HP on seed range and the Shelter she gives to ranged ops on seed range.
Also Shu giving out more Shelter if it's a trilane

[dark violet]

no news about her base skills?

[jovial nest]

do her seeds hit ranged tiles?

[quick pecan]

i would assume so since it just says four tiles around her / who she heals

[jovial nest]

4 tiles around the seeds btw

hmmm

[surreal star]

kal got seeds iirc

i remember ling ceobe getting them too actually

[jovial nest]

Shu's S3 can be used more generally as well

its annoying that Shelter only considers the strongest effect

but the max HP from talent sounds worth it alone

I guess what i have to consider is how much do I need Saria's S3

i did add Chalter so there's at least an option for me to slow stuff down. But it doesn't slow flying ones

[dark violet]

I keep reading shelter as skalter

guardians as a whole are a pretty foreign tactic for me, since they like to bunch up, while I have a very spread out squad

[jovial nest]

i mean

I can treat them as self-sustaining laners too

especially since they're damage ain't all that bad

Especially Saria's talent buffing it up nicely

like so

I like the flexibility

and since i use 2 FRDs, 1 redep, and 1 semi-FRD anyways

That lane will be helped once she's blocking 3

[dark violet]

I use 2 fast redeploys

skadi and ntr s2

[trail gulch]

How do I can beat sl-s-3, because it is too difficult / hard for me

[dark violet]

my heart cries whenever I see gladiia not e2

[vernal lion]

it's funny that you have good raised op but don't know how to beat it correctly

[jovial nest]

i mean

it's one thing to recommend who to raise

it's another on how to learn how to use em

[trail gulch]

I tried various guides, but it still doesn't work

[jovial nest]

i still love that each screenshot i see of maps completed shows very different approaches

[trail gulch]

yes, I myself don't know how to solve it because I saw that ASL-S-3 pads mostly use Chenalter and Mylnar (Mylnar is not enough), while for SL-S-4 and SL-S5. I think I can

[vernal lion]

are you doing cm now?

[trail gulch]

i'm still normal

I don't know the difference between normal and cm at that stage

[dark glade]

Ash and texas should cover the hovering stuff

If you borrow mlynar, mlynar gg exu skalter should be enough dps too

Wont be a straightforward clear like the guide but doable

[jovial nest]

S-3 CM increases movement speed of enemies

usually considered as one of the worst CM conditions

and i think this is especially rough against Dolly if you lack damage and CC

[dark glade]

Its funny because it just one straight lane with speeding drones

[jovial nest]

S-3 at least has a map that's easier to defend

compared to S-5

[trail gulch]

is texas e1 lvl 70, gg e2 lvl 1 s3m3 enough (because I ran out of exp cards)?

[dark glade]

Texas and ash job is to stun

(covering mlynar swing downtime)

You will know when its cm the drone is pain

[trail gulch]

so, i must stun dolly when mylnar do swing?

[dark glade]

No not dolly

Gg and exu multihit should knock dolly down with ease

Ash can help too

Aslong all of them are in fountain

[trail gulch]

the most annoying thing was when the dolly exploded after being defeated, it kill almost all my operators

[jovial nest]

the thing you have to consider is

bottle steam hitting Dolly is an immediate star kill

[dark glade]

But you have eyja that shouldnt be a problem, especially with mlymar

[jovial nest]

no luck or damage check involved

no matter how tanky those shields are

3 bottles of boom

Dolly goes down

thats why you want to pace those bottles

[trail gulch]

so, eyja, ash, gg, mylnar vs dolly? i will try

[dark glade]

Wait i mean eyja the healer for explosion

And dont forget to change pink tile to white too this shoudnt be a problem with mlynar taunt

[vernal lion]

ok I finally found a good semi afk for this

[trail gulch]

you mean wandering healer? but my operator dead when dolly get exploded, not steam explode

[vernal lion]

[dark glade]

Dolly doesnt explode

[vernal lion]

have you even read the boss info lol

the explode is when the boss revive from the weaken phase

[trail gulch]

damn, I have to bonk her with eyja and SA before she came closers to all my operators

[vernal lion]

btw the explosion is from the pink cloud on the map

so if there are no pink cloud, boss will end the skill sooner

[jovial nest]

Dolly explodes all the pink clouds per row

in a sweeping motion

right to left

[trail gulch]

oh, that means I have to give dolly a soda before she explodes

[jovial nest]

she explodes it globally

if there's pink steam, it's exploding

[trail gulch]

ok, i will give soda to dolly when she get low hp

[vernal lion]

I think the boss gender is male

[trail gulch]

she is pink, so she is girl

[vernal lion]

well yea, but no

[dark glade]

the descriptio say him

[jovial nest]

he's a he

[trail gulch]

nooooo, another trap for me

[jovial nest]

look at the Mission list description

Dolly's a he

[trail gulch]

why pink is trap

[jovial nest]

true men wear pink

also i think the concept is just....cotton candy for wool

and cotton candy is pink color default

heh

[vernal lion]

who doesn't love a cotton candy with a pink color

[foggy grove]

i might dislike pink with this event

[vernal lion]

this event mechanism is like Who is Real but more cancer

[vocal leaf]

this is the first time i use horn s2

in 3 hours will be m3, gotta try again once it’s done

just took 1 year to be m9

[jovial nest]

dpends. I really hate WR on those guys who just phase through if they aren't same color

also WR has EXPLODING guys

damage is far more annoying

[vernal lion]

Envy iirc

[jovial nest]

but pink steam does do burn ele dmg

[vernal lion]

yes, the "can't shut the mouth" that can switch yin/yang

[south bone]

Guh i'm still stuck in s-3

[vernal lion]

but it only appear in few stages tho

[quick pecan]

@lilac silo should i buy asbestos or cope

feel like i wouldn’t really use her over a fortress

the anti air only really matters for defenderknights not 5* knights

[jovial nest]

Does Ya2 S3 apply the Talent 1?

or is her spin not considered an "attack"

[vernal lion]

it does

[jovial nest]

ok damn....

so in other words

I WANT YA2'S 2ND MODULE NOW

[vernal lion]

it's weird that her s3 is absolutely better for RA farm

[jovial nest]

not just cause of talent 1

but mod1 effect is better for offense

more DP expensive overall, but the better dmg improvements from mod1 talent of the other module makes up for that

[turbid badge]

ok

[vernal lion]

her mod refunds 80% of the cost tho

[jovial nest]

i don't care bout it too much

[turbid badge]

its so good in Is

[jovial nest]

i mean

if you've gotten Ya2 already in IS

[turbid badge]

normal content it doesn’t matter that much sure

[jovial nest]

you should've solved the DP issues long ago

[turbid badge]

why

[jovial nest]

cause she ain't even 1st spec voucher recruit

not for me

[turbid badge]

she is tho

[jovial nest]

I prefer Tex2

first

[turbid badge]

she ignores most rejections and i can start with krooster

[jovial nest]

krooster has always been the solid start

[turbid badge]

but i start with the 4* duo mostly

[vernal lion]

I don't quitely like the current Texas mod

[turbid badge]

it feels the best

stablest for me

[quick pecan]

ngl i feel like krooster has been largely overrated for is3

that’s probably a hot take

[turbid badge]

fair but her total dps is pretty stonks still honestly but than again shes a marksmen so you won’t bring her to everything

[vernal lion]

sniper with rng stun, with crit dmg, and hit fast enough

[dark glade]

She is still a marksman afterall

[quick pecan]

i mean isn’t she most important for highmore and the floaters

[dark glade]

Nah it because maid exist

Solving floor 4 is easier with other ops

[quick pecan]

i mean i texalter start maybe that’s why

[turbid badge]

wtf texas start

angle my texas m2 no mod

[dark glade]

You cant always do 6★ start thats why krooster become popular

[turbid badge]

[dark glade]

And krooster handle floor 1-2 well

[south bone]

i mean texalter is limited and kroos is free

[quick pecan]

what d are we discussing

[dark glade]

Instead of leaking 2 on maid

Krooster is mostly d15 mom start

[south bone]

Interesting

[turbid badge]

dunno but i always assume d7+

[dark glade]

Yea and i assume d7+ too

[vernal lion]

I always pick RNG squad

[quick pecan]

huh

[turbid badge]

me too

thats why i invest into 4*

[quick pecan]

if the assumption is high difficulty is3 why do people recc her generally in #help and then mention is3

[turbid badge]

shes great low difficulty too

[south bone]

isn't #help mostly for newbie

idk

[turbid badge]

how they recc her when u cant get her thi

[jovial nest]

i mean

[dark glade]

Because good in high diff mean better in low diff?

[quick pecan]

yeah but i’ve downed highmore with literally just an e1 click

[jovial nest]

Krooster is just generally a good op

really strong for IS3

as a 5* starter

[vernal lion]

it's simple reason 'cause stun is like 99% needed for is3

[quick pecan]

hmm ig it’s fair if no texalt

[jovial nest]

you'll see decline of use of her in IS4

every IS a different meta

i like it

[turbid badge]

its just ez stun , people can also just buy erato for drifter or mutua aid but thats all shes for while with mom krooster can actually start shredding

[jovial nest]

there's some maps where texalt cant drop Drifters

[dark glade]

it will degenerate into only degen start

[vernal lion]

IS4 is more about burst dmg

[jovial nest]

Ember Phalanx is too rough that i don't want Texalt dropping them near my blue box

[quick pecan]

are you discussing ember phalanx

oh ye

that’s fair

but tbh

i would only agree on d7+

if you are lower difficult the leaking will matter less

[jovial nest]

also are you really living up to chance that you can 6* Tex2 in time for Drifters?

I've gotten runs where it's near the end and Tex2 is E1

[turbid badge]

but pretty sure d0 texas feels amazing lol

[quick pecan]

i guess more context is needed

i do specialist squad start

[vernal lion]

enemy in is4 running like a marathon athlete

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648597785444220941/1180448927162572820/img_v2_29059575-0a1a-4874-add4-61ad53f6e1dg.gif?ex=657d75bb&is=656b00bb&hm=bcd75b38a1cf190c997ff30a63d42358ab1e718b5c78aa53d58bacafeb827372&

[turbid badge]

shu meta for is4 2nd boss

or just raise ur qani

[quick pecan]

ez greyy alt sweep

[vernal lion]

real

[quick pecan]

anyway my point is more that krooster doesn’t live up to the hype ppl made me think she was

at least in is3. that is no doubt influenced by texalt and specialist squad start but idk maybe i just saw too much parroting of her being a god and irreplaceable.

[crystal cargo]

lmao why is it dodging hool

[vernal lion]

because it is

[jovial nest]

iirc

[crystal cargo]

hool ankles broken

[jovial nest]

the goddamn DP inflation mod is very early

[quick pecan]

i can see her mattering more if you have less stun options and go higher d where arts just dies

[jovial nest]

by then you can't just bring a 6* every run

[turbid badge]

the parroting is that bad?

[vernal lion]

yea, in higher d you just cope for meta for easy clear

[dark glade]

I never see anyone parroting that shes a god

[quick pecan]

it seemed like i couldn’t go anywhere without like ten krooster mentions for is3

[vernal lion]

or at least, having brain and play is3 like dr silvergun

[dark glade]

She is a good start, fall of quite bad later

[quick pecan]

maybe highmore is just sleepge

[turbid badge]

highmore is sleepge

[dark glade]

And the problem is not highmore

[jovial nest]

whoever still talks about IS3 are all d15 runners

or parroters

[vernal lion]

highmore is just, stun mine, stun relic and etc

[jovial nest]

anyone who only does d0 IS3 has stopped playing it months ago

[dark glade]

Its inflated fl1 stats on high diff

[turbid badge]

• fortress defender or shawl hax

[tropic valve]

krooster is solid in D15

[turbid badge]

low difficulty anything works

[tropic valve]

but it's still D15

she alone isn't gonna kill everything

[vernal lion]

she is only needed for stun chance

[jovial nest]

she is only needed to carry your early game

[turbid badge]

yeah

[dark glade]

the d15 runner know that brood is an a hole

[turbid badge]

she makes the early game a sweep

[vernal lion]

because everything in d15 just have more than 300 def

[jovial nest]

many runs end early cause who they brought didn't live up

[quick pecan]

also

maybe my drafts are weird

[tropic valve]

even later on like Territorial Tendencies, she carries her weight

[turbid badge]

chong

[tropic valve]

but you'll need someone who can punch through DEF which is the bane of Marksmen

[dark glade]

Kei nario

[tropic valve]

[dark glade]

~~Shut up cirno ~~

[jovial nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1192038086251655178/image.png?ex=65cc88fa&is=65ba13fa&hm=3be80c96c24ddf874c3f5ed4a07f66c8a792c3ff2b178b7aa66203fdc1de467f&
This gambit of mine wouldn't have happened if Krooster wasn't there attack cancelling Bob

[turbid badge]

not another schwarz ad

[quick pecan]

i just double up on texalt yato alt then try to get a good guard / burst damage for boss and a healing defender

the rest of the tickets are kinda whatever for caster / supporter / medic except maybe reedic

[quick pecan]

i usually grab exalt

[tropic valve]

gotta meet my quota

[quick pecan]

also occasionally horn

[vernal lion]

you have 2 options for def piercing,
heavyshooter or besieger

[quick pecan]

i know horn is good but i hesitate to prioritize her for it bc i usually look to my defender tickets for healing

[turbid badge]

supporter for me is just sora,suzu,deepcolor

[tropic valve]

shamare is also good for ed4

[peak cloak]

should i spread it?

[tropic valve]

if you're doing a brute force fight

[quick pecan]

but yeah thanks for all your opinions

helped round out my feel for krooster depending on d0-d15

[tropic valve]

and mayer for the obvious reason

[quick pecan]

ironically i wasn’t going to build her for is3

[dark glade]

Yeah dont

[quick pecan]

but for 5* knights

💀

[dark glade]

Just play the superior is4

That en wont get

[turbid badge]

u should

she goes hard with warf

[tropic valve]

Greythroat/Krooster buff army is the staple solution to everything in 5* knights

[quick pecan]

i have like every 5* anti air built except for greythroat and krooster

[turbid badge]

blue poison sometimes won’t cut it build krooster

[quick pecan]

i’ve been liking tequila a lot actually

for higher def

[turbid badge]

yeah he stonks

[tropic valve]

yes Teq is really good

[quick pecan]

dude have you seen blue poison against dolly

it fuckin

sucks

[tropic valve]

I sometimes skip Mlynar on 7 Hope

because Teq exists

[turbid badge]

i take makeshift horn

cuz cheap

[tropic valve]

is that FW or Ashlock?

[turbid badge]

ashlock

[tropic valve]

ah

[quick pecan]

honestly with 5* knights

i always have an eye out for ops with high dph or burst

better if they have a mix of both

[turbid badge]

angles hows meteorite crits

[tropic valve]

Aurora is another surprise hitter

6k DPH on frozen

[quick pecan]

there’s not an amazing amount of options so i’ve sort of stuck to tequila and andreana

[tropic valve]

pair her with Kjera for huge value

[quick pecan]

they’re pretty pog

do you want to try mine out

[tropic valve]

I can confirm Meteorite also quite good

[carmine sigil]

can anyone help me with a strategy to clear s-5 CM?

ive been at it for so long ;-;

[quick pecan]

there’s more i just haven’t really settled on raising another

most of my other physical options are like mid 1k atk with skills at best

[weak gazelle]

dont worry, any 5* sniper have a use case here and there except kid named Sesa💀

[jovial nest]

even Meteorite huh

and Adnachiel

[dark glade]

Inb4 that one guy goes akhscually on sesa

[foggy grove]

5* adna when

[quick pecan]

well specter with module is nice actually

it’s actually good that we can get two abyssals in 5* knights to buff each other

[turbid badge]

my hunus about to be e2

[tropic valve]

are you able to rush kill Dolly?

[quick pecan]

it could be worse

could be aosta

as much as i like him he uh

kit of all time

💀

[vernal lion]

Sesa when his mod gives slow effect on hit

[turbid badge]

ok humys is e2

[tropic valve]

Sesa at least provides physical fragile which is rare, what does Aosta provide

[turbid badge]

gonna at nowdle now

[dark glade]

Amazing bind

[quick pecan]

very low bind uptime

[weak gazelle]

and he hit every 10 years

[quick pecan]

[vernal lion]

dot dmg

[carmine sigil]

first phase yeah but second time when he comes back around i can't burst him
overall the run is super micromanagey for me and if i get some timing a little off its all bust

[quick pecan]

he is actually a good spuria target but no one outside of niche 5* knights clears will probably ever use that

[tropic valve]

hmm that's unusual

where are you trying the 2nd burst?

usually 2nd burst is easier

[carmine sigil]

i think i cant get his shield down fast enough

[quick pecan]

you will get a functional aosta s2 for 20s that will make you question why he was done so dirty

[carmine sigil]

and mlynar skill timings are kinda wonky

and my mountain on right lane keeps dying randomly xD

[tropic valve]

I like to do phase 2 kill in the top right corner because it's quite isolated

[carmine sigil]

hmm okie i can try that, let me send my op list and stuff

[weak gazelle]

aosta was good when the general idea was not blocking enemies at all
but fact his mastery gain are so ass is

[tropic valve]

make sure Dolly is at 1 star before going there, then drop him to 0 stars at the same time as you activate everything

[vernal lion]

he died because of the tornado

[tropic valve]

ah, if you have Rosmontis, she solves all the tornados

[vernal lion]

it changes his tile to pink

[weak gazelle]

many way to deal with a tornado
general idea are CC/throw body

[turbid badge]

yea

i just throw yato

or gravle

[vernal lion]

nuke the tornado

[flint falcon]

so when the same rows of fluff bombs explode from diff clouds, what decides the resulting cloud colour? or just random?

[weak gazelle]

adjacent

[carmine sigil]

I'm currently trying kyo's afk strat swapping some ops out for my own and it worked for non cm

but for cm its ahhhhhhhhhh

[dark glade]

Aaaaaah

[carmine sigil]

^ this is the squad i was trying

[tropic valve]

yeah squad looks fine

what's your burst setup for p1?

[dark glade]

Thats a strange looking ceobe skill

[carmine sigil]

oh i use her for the left side lmfao

not for boss

[tropic valve]

is Suzuran E1 doing much?

she doesn't apply fragile until E2

[carmine sigil]

idk? 😭

[vernal lion]

she can slow, so far still good

[carmine sigil]

i e2'd mountain to clear these stages so im broke atm...

cant raise her

[tropic valve]

understandable

[dark glade]

I assume she use suzu with eyja for left

But he said he is using ceobe for left

And now i left confused

[flint falcon]

like if i have 1 pink tile on the left and 1 white tile on the right and two fluff bombs exploding on them simultaneously, what colour r those two tiles gonna end up as?
i'm trying to figure out if thats whats been messing up the autos

[carmine sigil]

one sec

[tropic valve]

there are various Caster combinations that can handle left yeah

[carmine sigil]

left side isnt really the issue

[vernal lion]

fluff bomb is the tornado or the boss skill?

[tropic valve]

in general, whatever burst setup you used for phase 1, should still work for phase 2, since Dolly has the same stats I think?

[flint falcon]

fluffy buddies

[tropic valve]

it's just the location will be different

[dark glade]

What i picture in mind is, if eyja suzu can handle left fine

[dark glade]

You can use ceobe right with mlynar to burst

[carmine sigil]

this is what i use

gg -> ceobe

[dark glade]

Oh...

[carmine sigil]

and exusiai -> archetto

[dark glade]

Its full left setup

And exu with no buff

[carmine sigil]

and chalter to the right of exusiai

i can try ceobe right tho

[tropic valve]

I see, maybe try using Ceobe S2 to help Mlynar for phase 2

[dark glade]

I agree with cirno

[vernal lion]

pink cloud has higher prio, so 1 pink cloud can fuck up all the map, yes

[dark glade]

That level and mod seems wasted if you just use it for s1

Especially if you have gg holding left in the mix

[carmine sigil]

thats fair i just dont have gg so i replaced her xd

[flint falcon]

gotcha

[carmine sigil]

oh no its not my screenshot

i mean my setup is the same except for ceobe where gg is and archetto where exu is

[dark glade]

Oh is that one kyos?

[carmine sigil]

yea

[dark glade]

Ok how about eyja in place of gg, ceobe in place of eyja to help burst dolly and cheeto in place of exu

idk if that will handle left lane well

[carmine sigil]

i can try 🫡

[dark glade]

🫡

[tropic valve]

good luck

[carmine sigil]

eyja cant solo hold left lane 😭

ceobes s1 bind was actually pretty useful in slowing the volcano dudes

[dark glade]

[carmine sigil]

pain desu

[vernal lion]

yea I think you need a max Eyja for sure

[carmine sigil]

oh mines not maxed :(

[dark glade]

probably with mod too
play sss~

[vernal lion]

I wonder if manticore will work with this

[turbid badge]

silence is pog

[carmine sigil]

wait its so doable

aaa

[turbid badge]

yea shes eating

wiubai eats

[carmine sigil]

AH I DID IT

[tropic valve]

yoo

congrats

[dark glade]

so whats the winning strats

[jovial nest]

it's usually just minor tweaks.

[carmine sigil]

same strat but but getting the timings down

it just took me like 20 tries 😭

[dark glade]

its all practice plan right?

[carmine sigil]

haha...

[dark glade]

right???

[carmine sigil]

right.....

[jovial nest]

dude

even i waited next reset

because sometimes

waiting out the reset

means you get your head cooled off

and learn better plans

[carmine sigil]

😎 sanity potion we ball

[jovial nest]

thats how i got the idea to make Saria a solo laner

need the cooling off

[turbid badge]

solo laner

[carmine sigil]

lmfao for sure but i already sunk like 10 runs into it and my brain was like

you cant stop now !!!!!1!

cus it was close to working just timing issue

[jovial nest]

solo laner that survives for so long that someone can help her out temporarily from time to time

need those asterisks

i mean

it just works

[vernal lion]

oh new CNY event today

[jovial nest]

you sure it's today?

cause i'd love some Shu numbers

I think I'm on the train that I'm using Shu and replacing my Saria.

less debuffs and tankiness. but more buffs all around

[carmine sigil]

ooo thats a banner where i want both units

[vernal lion]

yea it's today

in 4 hours

[jovial nest]

i will miss Saria's tankiness and S3. But Shu's talents are way too good

[dark glade]

inb4 number too good you wont miss anything

[jovial nest]

i mean

Shelter and Max HP for everyone yeah

and i think I can make do with other combinations that will make me not miss Saria's S3

[foggy grove]

my pull planning is in shambles

[jovial nest]

the thing is

you have to consider her other skills too

[tidal sedge]

FUUUUUCK
ALMOST DID IT FIRST TRY

[jovial nest]

from what i read, S3 is a nice more-offense oriented setup that adds ATK and ASPD while S2 is a defensive setup that improves the Shelter

I wonder if she's gonna be an M9. Or maybe just an M6

[tidal sedge]

How did this sumbitch survive?!

[jovial nest]

its called star DR

[vernal lion]

RAT

[jovial nest]

oh

[vernal lion]

oh yea I have the info of the mechanism of new CNY event

[jovial nest]

when there are enemies in seeded tiles (that includes the cardinal direction of seeds), any allies in her S3 range get the 25% ATK and ?? ASPD

damn

it's better than i expected

[tidal sedge]

Are all the CNY events Sui events?

[vernal lion]

for now it is

[carmine sigil]

realtime footage of me

[vernal lion]

so, enemies bring the disease to the water, and op in there get cancer (continually taking arts dmg) based on how serious it is
can use the pumping station to pump water but can't filter the water, so if you pump clean water you get clean water, pump disease water you get disease water

[dark glade]

if it diseased its diseased forever? sadge

[vernal lion]

it's so jover

[prime trellis]

Any SL-S-3 guides that only need one 6*?

[vernal lion]

I think you will need at least 2 of 6 star

boss is kinda stat check

[dark glade]

i think there are

it will be mlynar

[halcyon adder]

Poncirus is absolutely awful

[dark glade]

but it will have curesd ops

[halcyon adder]

Afk my ass,what is that dp geberation

[dark glade]

YES my guy ur absolutely right

[vernal lion]

mlynar is a must for low rarity guide

[prime trellis]

NOOO

i have S2 texas alt

but thats it

[dark glade]

let me check the cursed s5 clear

it might have link to s3

nvm he also use 2 6*

[tidal sedge]

Whoever said Executer Alter was better for top lane solo in SL-S-4

Thank you

You were 100% right

[vernal lion]

at least that is with white smoke

[weak gazelle]

this one spesific mage sheep on an opening waste me 1 extra slot ops

[tidal sedge]

isnt that kinda mandatory no matter what?

[vernal lion]

yes it is

he maybe good with s3 but if it comes to 1-2 enemies with big atk, he's still shit after all

reaper good because of aoe attack and heal with number of them

[tidal sedge]

i mean thats what his ramp up damnage is for

he also reach over to the next lane down

and killed a few those clouds as he did his job there

was a very nice Two-birds-with-one-stone op

[vernal lion]

I mean, not just in this event

but for overall

[jovial nest]

i just realized something

me kicking out Skalter yesterday

[vernal lion]

like try him with this one

[jovial nest]

and it just so happens a new Guardian is giving close to the same buffs I removed from the team

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-xRP3zCNmQ&ab_channel=Tarkus

[tidal sedge]

Ok
WHO AT HG IS THE SADISTIC SOB
That decided this sheep
NEEDED 900 DEF AND A THREE LAYER SHIELD

[jovial nest]

the three layer shield is peanuts if you just pop it all with soda

no matter how tanky the shield is

one layer dies immediately from soda popping

it's incredibly consistent

Always loved to combo it with Chalter's S3 easily killing off the soda

oh and weakening the layers to 1 using Ya2+soda

[void terrace]

Or just exusiai the sheild

One attack on fountain does 2 hp to the sheild

It has 150 hp. Exu does 10 hp per attack. And attacks very fast

15 attacks to destroy the shield when exu on fountain

[jovial nest]

that damage should've been better used once Dolly is knocked down, but yeah there are multiple ways to go about

problem with approach is it's actually affected by S-5's CM

[void terrace]

Also has anyone tested aimiya chimaera on the sheild

Her S3 buffed up with aak warf or just someone might be able to cheese dolly

The shield only gives 75% Phys and arts reduction

[tidal sedge]

HOW, HOW, HOW?!

[void terrace]

Bruh your team is more than strong enough

[tidal sedge]

How the fuck are you supposed to kill him

[void terrace]

Break 3 soda bottles and just nuke him with skills

[tidal sedge]

YOUD THINK

Ive TRIED

[void terrace]

Yeah you've got pozy mylnar and gang

And yalter

More than enough

Break 3 soda bottles

[tidal sedge]

Im popping bittles like crazy

[void terrace]

Activate mylnar

[tropic valve]

take advantage of the fact that marksmen can go on ground

[tidal sedge]

I AM BREAKING THEM

[void terrace]

Save your bursts for only when he drops down

Your probably wasting dmg outside of the 12 second downed window

Pozy S3 plus type writir and mylnar should do

[tidal sedge]

...
Theres also the several adds

[foggy grove]

use your other ops for that

or chalter that you borrow

[vernal lion]

you are here to learn how to beat the game

[tropic valve]

make sure Dolly is on white steam when you burst during those 12 sec

[vernal lion]

my Dolly

[foggy grove]

i can imagine all of my auto will be cursed next rerun with greyy rng

[tidal sedge]

I tried timing the skills but i feel like the adds make that difficult

Or...
Maybe dont make a boss have 900 def AND A SHIELD

[jovial nest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648597785444220941/1013410073386692628/871662531771498556.gif

[tidal sedge]

Hard to tell when hes diwn when there are 20 other sheep near him

[jovial nest]

what's more impressive is how is Chalter not still laned

she's the one solving the adds

how she died?

[jovial nest]

btw about this screenshot

[tidal sedge]

I put her in a bad spot tbh

[jovial nest]

i just wanted to point out that maybe, just maybe, Dolly would drop if Eyja was on the Geyser tile

[foggy grove]

chalter near geyser should have solved most of your ads problem

[tidal sedge]

I hate this, i hate this, i hate this

[tidal sedge]

Which one?!

[foggy grove]

i just used my own "ground" chalter

left or right doesn't matter

[tidal sedge]

And i did put her by the geyser...
She died there

[foggy grove]

did she get hit by tornado?

or you can just switch tile with mlynar

[tidal sedge]

Hmm

FUUUUUUUUUUCK

This is actually pissing me off

I switched Mlynar and Chalter
Chalter died

[dark glade]

i tried my best, my best is so average

fuck this im playing IS

[jovial nest]

a tip....

I have no idea where you put your chalter

but wherever it is, I don't know why you don't put her there

that space alone covers almost every area they come from and go to

[dark glade]

there is also good, added bonus hitting p1, worse for drone

[jovial nest]

that blue of yours really is pointless. Most of her range is wasted on supposedly blocked areas

[dark glade]

actually probably the same for drone

[vernal lion]

this gives me idea about liskarm

[dark glade]

you are not supposed to leak something to the right either dont you

[jovial nest]

I didn't. Because no one has to lane there

and if anyone does get through, easy FRD solution

but that's mostly based on what the squad is and how you approach the lanes

Unfortunately didn't screenshot my S-3

because it wasn't even worth noting for me personally

compared to S-4 and S-5

what i did was

Zee's recommended spot was where Thorns was

and where his Mlynar is, is where I put Reedic

[dark glade]

im more confused by the mudrock position but that porbably just panic from leaking

[jovial nest]

Mlynar was just upfront

Mudrock is in a spot that doesn't scream panic

it's too far from the box

[dark glade]

true actually

if he patch the leak should be 1 tile downward too

my recomendation for tha pos is because, depending on how fast you setup, you can activate chalter when dolly on toplane together with mlynar
chipping dolly's health to ~30-50% remaining for easier burst later in the middle

[tidal sedge]

NM done

For S-3

[dark glade]

have fun with extra speed

[glass monolith]

Me with Manticore and Astgenne - What speed?

[round yew]

slow strat worked

time to do it again outside practice mode

[dark glade]

[round yew]

in cm dolly has extra speed?

[dark glade]

EVERYONE

[round yew]

I'll just leave that for rerun....

[dark glade]

you will have problem with drone sheep since no texas

and dolly just speeding to the blue box

its fun stage wdym

[glass monolith]

Kroos alter rolling crit as soon as whatever enters her range

[jovial nest]

i prefer drones over the casters ngl

cause i can bring the damage

but taking it is rough for those long range casters

[foggy grove]

fight long range with long range

[glass monolith]

Fight long range with 75% DR + L + Ratio

[void terrace]

Hmm is blaze module worth it

I haven't module 3 gavail Texas or yalter

But blaze

I'm considering

[glass monolith]

#game-news message Aosta got company of hot woman

[tidal sedge]

The gains are good if you do like using her

[void terrace]

I usually don't pursue upper end content but like making my older ops like ceobe and Chen useful

[jovial nest]

you're considering moduling blaze over tex2 or ya2...well, you do you

if you still use her

[void terrace]

I mean for me it's more about getting all my ops to a usable state

[tidal sedge]

Sounds like a good idea under those parameters

[jovial nest]

you get more value out of laners

[glass monolith]

i still didn't module tex2 and don't even plan it

[void terrace]

And blaze isn't really usable

[foggy grove]

mod 3 will make blaze more usable yeah

she is still not competing with gavial tho

[void terrace]

I mean the alternative is just gavail mod 3 but the diminishing returns just prevent me from mod3ing anyone who doesn't need it to cope

[tidal sedge]

Supposedly it's one of the bigger gains an op gets from mod upgrades

[void terrace]

Mmn yeah that's what I heard

Haven't used blaze in a long time thanks to gavail and finally want to bust out the old chainsaw cat again

Thinking of dumb combos but blaze is pretty rigid

[spark sinew]

module 3 yato or texas looks like a bigger waste than blaze to me

[fierce tendon]

Man, suggest me an op that can handle left lane in s-6

[foggy grove]

yeah just plain stat stick

[void terrace]

Just mod3ed ceobe and super totally didn't regret it. It's amazing

[spark sinew]

that said idt either one is good

[void terrace]

Blaze's difference won't be as noticeable but

[spark sinew]

ceobe is one of the most hyped modules

[void terrace]

Yeah

[tidal sedge]

Wtf +86 base atk

[void terrace]

I mean it's infinite scaling with defence

[tidal sedge]

Why do centurion get so much extra atk from module

[void terrace]

Which possible opens up a lot of dumb shit in high end content where defence spikes. Resistance can always be shreded

Even on dolly with only 900 defence ceobe was my main damage dealer this event with eyja

[deft badger]

@spark sinew 👑

just honoring ur presence

[quick pecan]

the atk + the atk scale from trait upgrade

honestly you feel the difference even off skill

[tidal sedge]

I guess HG saw how much reapers were being used over centurions

[deft badger]

@spark sinew btw help me out here which of the 4 stars can i e2 for IS

wanna grind to e2 my six stars

[quick pecan]

honestly yeah centurions just did not feel good to lanehold off skill

[dark glade]

you might just kill him because you ping too much

[quick pecan]

la pluma got to have a small sp cost double hit and an aspd talent that make it happen faster

[deft badger]

who me, hauck likes when i do ping him 😄

[quick pecan]

the centurions were coping pretty hard the extra block didn’t even matter

[dark glade]

blasphemy

[spark sinew]

now he resorted to lies

has he no shame

[tall cairn]

[void terrace]

I mean maybe I should just mod 3 gavail since it's so over tuned

[spark sinew]

mod2/3 were trash, no?

[tidal sedge]

Although it's kinda funny to me that the most 'generic' centurions are the 6*s

[quick pecan]

i should emphasize i’m speaking abt the 5* centurions btw

[spark sinew]

are you using gavial3

[void terrace]

I mean I use her on the regular so might as well. Was going to wait for her second module to see if she gets some stupid healing buff

[quick pecan]

but their skills aren’t really meant for laneholding ig

[void terrace]

I'm using mod 1

[quick pecan]

i think gavialt was fine

blaze maybe leaked a bit or had to have someone help her block pre module

[tidal sedge]

Yeah. 5* centurions do kinda feel dated with contemporary design

[void terrace]

Generally use S3 on my gavail

[spark sinew]

context where
in an acc with the other rarities raised/pulled i still think only like ethan is worth

[void terrace]

Mean while specter honestly got a baller module

I mod 3ed her for fish squad

[deft badger]

i am confused af right now 😄

[void terrace]

And she actually pulls her weight as a solo lane holder with stupid amounts of self hp regen

[quick pecan]

the gains are shitty for abyssal hunters but they’re good enough on their own for her so it’s nice

[spark sinew]

i mean if you want to use up all your blocks, i won't stop you

[void terrace]

I have like 20 blocks plus left T-T

[tidal sedge]

I feel their statline was meant to lanehold with basic attacks and blow skill for elites, but they moved away from that kind of map+enemy design over time

[spark sinew]

but those modules are honestly in the venue of "no way this is worth the mod blocks"

[void terrace]

I need to begin conserving them

[spark sinew]

also do try s2 gavialt

better cycle

[void terrace]

I have her m6ed

[spark sinew]

wallhacking

whatever else

[quick pecan]

and then the creeping def started to hurt their basics

[void terrace]

Just prefer the feel of S3 for some reason

Also works nicely with stainless turret

[tidal sedge]

It's why I'm very interested in what a new 5* centurion will do

[spark sinew]

raise your dps units in 4*
or raise ethan cause he will be useful even when your team is full of 6*

[quick pecan]

specter feels really nice with mod 3 + andreana mod 3

[spark sinew]

he's kinda eugh to carry you in IS early though (with low op levels)

[void terrace]

Hmm maybe I should go back to S2 usage to combo back with mylnar

[tidal sedge]

They could use something of a more general design at 5*, and Specter is banished to Kernel so there's a gap waiting to be filled

[deft badger]

well atm i can do shit consistent, i might just resort to borrowing thorns and doing IS2
main problem is that i don't have someone like surtr to kill that stupid phantom my main was fine with thorns surtr the moment i got them on e2 took me a week to clear IS2 have to work here with 4 stars which i am not good at 😄

[tall cairn]

Take support Pozy or Schwarz.

[void terrace]

Pozys enough

[dark glade]

borrow exalter

better than thorns

thorns bad

[tall cairn]

I’m convinced Thorns start is bad.

[deft badger]

u are bad... -.-

thorns rocks IS2

[quick pecan]

iirc from my napkin math specter w mod 3 + andreana mod 3 does around 40k with s2

[dark glade]

you want phantom killer

[tall cairn]

[dark glade]

exalter can do that

[quick pecan]

idk if andreana pot is enough to squeeze one more hit bc of frame rounding

[shell arch]

Thorns start is2 is bad

Thorns e2 start is2 is good

[dark glade]

can kill bear/playwright with minimal effort too

[spark sinew]

debatable

[shell arch]

Know the difference

[tidal sedge]

40k, hm.

[quick pecan]

that is probably the best 5* knights will get for a helidrop

[tall cairn]

There’s no difference.

[tropic valve]

so true

[tall cairn]

All he does is kill mobs.

[tropic valve]

Ethan pog

[tall cairn]

Which a bunch of other shit can do.

[quick pecan]

less in practice ofc bc of def but still it’s nice to see that on a high initial sp skill

[tall cairn]

Usually better.

[shell arch]

I'd actually suggest to try chen e2 start

:CeobeCU-

[tidal sedge]

Yeah it's not bad. That should take a good bite out of an elite at the least

[dark glade]

who are these boomers and their start

[tall cairn]

[tropic valve]

is this IS2 or IS3

[spark sinew]

borrow pozy, kill the boss

raise 4* to cover the gaps in your roster (so like, need sniper, can do May etc)

[tall cairn]

IS2.

[deft badger]

doesn't matter which is

[shell arch]

It does

[deft badger]

i just wanna grind one of them efficiently

[shell arch]

Is3 is a completely different monster than is2

What works on is2 won't work on is3

[deft badger]

wanna e2 my six stars sitting just on two e2s right now and i don't feel well looking at my acc like this 😄

[void terrace]

Ikr

[tall cairn]

You’re right. It doesn’t matter. Shouldn’t start with Thorns either way.

[tidal sedge]

Speaking of 5 stars, new cn 5 star numbers in 35 minutes or so?

[spark sinew]

well...

[quick pecan]

oh grain + wan

[shell arch]

Just don't cope for liskarm start on is2

I don't think it'll work

[tidal sedge]

Well, free to discuss them that is

[quick pecan]

wan is cute i will probably raise him even tho he will forever be cooked by +1 more dp than a max pot elysium

depending on how good his aspd buff is on s2 i might try some stuff with him + elysium s2 though

[tidal sedge]

How much aspd would it take for you to be interested in that

[quick pecan]

hopefully it’s not something mid like 15

[glass monolith]

How much you offer? 🐀

[tidal sedge]

I see

[quick pecan]

i don’t want them to double punish him by welfare tax on skill numbers seeing as a flag is already taxed on their dp gen for their secondary skills

[deft badger]

everyone telling what not to do, but non saying what to do

[tidal sedge]

We will know very soon at least

[quick pecan]

true true

idk how grain buds will do

it’s not looking good at a glance

[deft badger]

f- shit just tell me what to e2 lol

[tidal sedge]

Well, actually that's already knowable, but rules are rules

[quick pecan]

an archetype that doesn’t do enough to justify its slot when slow is accessible in much better places

the best decel binder is relevant bc she is a slower second and a buffer first

[tidal sedge]

I get Proviso vibes from her kit from preview, and Proviso is already barely used

[quick pecan]

they need to do too much to make a 5* slower relevant after greyy alt post module

he’s so good even from basics alone

hopefully she can at least find a place in sleep stall ig

[tidal sedge]

Before I found out she had X module I coped that she could get infinite duration skill that grants aspd and splash to attacks

I wanted Greyyter but arts

[quick pecan]

wait for a new archetype /s

decel binders are so joever

[tidal sedge]

Chain casters with X module were my hope for that

But the only who leans into aoe slow with brief gap is Pass s2

[spark sinew]

greyy already has decel binder built in on s2

just need to roll that 40% every time

[quick pecan]

astgenne is kinda nice

well she doesn’t get the increased slow duration

but it’s like what

[tidal sedge]

She's nice but she's full dps

[quick pecan]

1.8s atk interval with talent

yeah

it is nicer to see a chain caster with a bit more emphasis in control tho

at least in comparison to the rest

[tropic valve]

did you already see my relicless IS2 with 4*? I think it can be useful reference for what to do

[tall cairn]

Watchlist.

[quick pecan]

well ig it’s back to waiting 1037482 updates for a top tier 5*

wan and grain will probably at least be usable

[tropic valve]

grain is cute so I'm holding onto copium

[foggy grove]

wan too

[tidal sedge]

Would you use her if she is indeed about Proviso competence

[foggy grove]

[spark sinew]

i mean you didn't share your 4* ops, so

either way in the long run just raise 6*

[deft badger]

just looking for ops i can lvlup or i just might go and spam IS2 with thorns and leave when i get to phantom
max out schwarz and continue to the next six star day one and 2 will be hard but will have till tomorrow one more 6 star on e2 then its going to get easy

[quick pecan]

proviso is just in base

tbh

i don’t really remember the last time i needed to slow aerial

so it’s just greyy alt

[tropic valve]

why leave at phantom? beating him gets a lot of points

[spark sinew]

i never once seen proviso being used in combat

[tidal sedge]

I used her for for-fun no-block lane strats before Greyyter module

[deft badger]

because its not going to happen, i can start killing him when i e2 eyja

[quick pecan]

i think even then if i needed to slow a drone

[spark sinew]

borrow pozy

[quick pecan]

i would use istina

[spark sinew]

as like 4 people said

[tropic valve]

yeah can borrow a heavyshooter or something

thorns is probably not gonna do much beyond just holding lane

[quick pecan]

but god istina just feels so archaic to use

the cycle is whatever on s1 i don’t think it’s horrendous

[tidal sedge]

But the more I use Greyyter the more unappealing using a decel gets

[quick pecan]

but the skill design is just so

boring

[tropic valve]

Greyyter just built different

[spark sinew]

you're too used to your previous strat for phantom, but pozy/black just kill it almost solo dps in one cycle

[tidal sedge]

He really is something else

[tropic valve]

similarly I just find it easier to use May instead of decel binders in many situations

[dark glade]

whta even is the previous strat

[quick pecan]

premium orchid has never felt so unrewarding

[tidal sedge]

That range with that slow.

[deft badger]

put ur pozy in to support hauck...
i have been taking thorns since i know to clear that thing with him 0 struggle involved 90% i am going just to place him and know how to clear the map in IS2

[quick pecan]

at least module doesn’t make istina dead off skill

there’s some competency to the slow ig

idk when or where i would use her s2 over greyy alt tho

[tropic valve]

you can also get to the point where you can just place Schwarz/Pozy and know how to clear the map in IS2, but the difference is they are actually good against bosses too

[spark sinew]

from what i gathered, blocking phantom and bursting

[quick pecan]

is there any istina is4 usage

that will tell me if she is truly dead

[tropic valve]

this one: https://youtu.be/simOqrAc4sc

[spark sinew]

banned

[tropic valve]

[tidal sedge]

Her slow uptime on basic attacks is actually pretty good. But part of her problem is that consistent st slow with that range isn't as useful as I'd like to admit

[quick pecan]

yeah the module makes the basics nice

[spark sinew]

my pozy bad

[quick pecan]

but it do just feel like premium orchid bc the skill design is so lame

[tidal sedge]

Year 1 design.

Although I guess Proviso is pretty boring too.

[quick pecan]

well i suppose it’s a good indication that i can at least say she is dead bc that means at one point she was relevant

i can’t say the same for glaucus

[tidal sedge]

S1 is auto recovery powerstrike. S2 is if you mashed Podenco s2 and Istina s1 together

[quick pecan]

decel binder truly a class of all time

[dark glade]

that never work for me

[tropic valve]

I used Proviso in RA for some mob waves, and in Lone Trail when I didn't want to block stuff

[dark glade]

especially on full e1

whatever blocking him just evaporate

[tropic valve]

she's not spectacular or anything

[tidal sedge]

Decel range had some perks in Lone Trail ye some maps

[dark glade]

or he just skrrrt away unscratched

[tidal sedge]

But Lone Trail was very unusual in how often the mobs were purely melee

[spark sinew]

i think i just bruteforced with chalter/carne back in the day

and like another dps

never tried to block successfully so no comment

[tropic valve]

before Schwarz dodge ignore module, I sometimes did the block strat

[quick pecan]

praying for maps to have a lone ranged tile around a loop so enemies can donut for a decel binder to be usable once every year