strategy

[spark sinew]

i struggled a lot more with s5

[dark glade]

s5 is easier for me

probably because i watch the afk setup too

[spark sinew]

s4 was just me setting up a zone of death and evaporating everything on the left

with exalter soloing right

i didn't try to set up on the right on s5 though

maybe that's why it felt hard

[jovial nest]

welcome to why S4 was harder to me

it's how you setup the "less busy" lane

S4's top right lane had so much restrictions (so many tile bans and immediate pink clouds)

but at least had less dangerous enemies compared to the constant Big BOIs

hmmmm

more shield for Dolly

doesn't change my strat one bit

if anything i just make him 1 star for a long time until he reaches my weird death zones

[timid schooner]

FUCK DOLLY +1 SHIELD BYE S STAGES

[mortal hamlet]

Hi guys. Does anyone have the exact numbers on damage reduction/amplification of the carmine/white clouds?

[hard urchin]

Advice?

[timid schooner]

borrow mlynar

pozy/chen2 + mlynar combo = perfect

[karmic glade]

Chalter+mlynar can one cycle the boss

[hard urchin]

Where to place chalter ?

[karmic glade]

#strategy message

[dark glade]

why skateboarder skateboarding spot for half hp

this is not fair

[vernal lion]

Chalter the GOAT

[jovial nest]

done with S-5 CM. But damn. That made me do a lot of 1x

just cause I needed to see if both lanes are doing well

Chalter's true AoE is just so much carry with this gimmick

[glass monolith]

S-5 Dolly has enough ATK to oneshot E1 1 Gravel...
1000 yard stare

[south bone]

epic

[jovial nest]

Yeah the damage of that column attack combined with the wandering Casters can wipe hard

[south bone]

wait is there a low rarity guide with only 1 six-star yet

[civic bear]

fun map

[south bone]

for S-5

[civic bear]

yes

[jovial nest]

2 6* iirc

[civic bear]

1604 cleared it

[south bone]

oh

but who's gonna follow dat

[civic bear]

1604 is equivalent of 0 6* carry so its basicly just 1 step down

so if it exist then 1 6* carry also exist

[south bone]

true

then again, it all comes down to stalling

[glass monolith]

Oh. Great. Casters spawn in before boss even moves

(Unpacks "balans")

[jovial nest]

who's balans to you though?

theres a lot with that title

[spark sinew]

yes

just 12 of them

[vernal lion]

this boss is annoying than I thought

[glass monolith]

Currently Texas Alter Ines Archetto Fia Pozy Mlynar, list can change based on how fucking much i hate this boss

[jovial nest]

Archetto Fia....on the balans list.
Sounds indeed that you just hate the boss

[vernal lion]

I remember someone has posted the TfN schedule of CN server, which has Dolly too

[glass monolith]

Only way i have to physically white smoke casters

[dark glade]

@tall cairn wtf clean

this is also a ping test

[tall cairn]

Yes got pinged.

Also I just tuned in to the channel as you pinged.

So.

[dark glade]

i can sleep in peace

[tall cairn]

Lemme leave and you ping again.

Also, very nice.

[dark glade]

ok should i ping you

or you ping me

[tall cairn]

I’ll ping.

[dark glade]

but im on pc know idk if its diff or not

[tall cairn]

Then you ping.

[glass monolith]

WAIT WHY THERE ARE TORNADOS

[tall cairn]

Isok I’ll do it on pc too.

[dark glade]

in anni? yes

[vernal lion]

ofc it's S-5 after all

[dark glade]

it has everything dont worry

[vernal lion]

[jovial nest]

It's a hilarious combination of enemies on most of em

[dark glade]

s5 hs everything too

[vernal lion]

do you have that image

[dark glade]

[jovial nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648597785444220941/1200784340766957678/image.png?ex=65c77090&is=65b4fb90&hm=d72036092f7efc73cd93604fce44d4e93617510f64a7980566100ccb89fcb7aa&

[tall cairn]

@dark glade ....zee dee...nu

[jovial nest]

Mandy's back

and i hate it

[dark glade]

i dont get picnged

[jovial nest]

Ya too

[tall cairn]

bruh.

[vernal lion]

Man but it's woman

[tall cairn]

okay ping me.

[dark glade]

@tall cairn

[glass monolith]

WHY THERE IS CONGA OF BIG FELLAS ON LEFT

[tall cairn]

smh why ping.

[dark glade]

[tidal sedge]

Sui Xiang huh

[tall cairn]

[jovial nest]

because there is

[tidal sedge]

At least it's first up in its set

Imagine getting timer checked if it was last

Mandra being 2nd in her lineup is potentially interesting

Pillars could be around for Eblana after her

[vernal lion]

the TN-4 is more like stat check

[jovial nest]

good thing about 2nd is

you can cheese it with the superbuff

to skip that fight

[dark glade]

i never play tn

will the stage gimmick be available

like soda bottle will be available trough all 3 boss?

and mandra pillar carried over to eblana?

[jovial nest]

nope

[tidal sedge]

Oh yeah. Didn't think about smoke affecting the fight vs Rat King and Pompeii

[jovial nest]

wait no

map gimmicks yes

but inventory gimmicks...

no idea

like i know Mandra pillars were present

but i don't know if the "items" are included

[dark glade]

yea because smoked pompeii is just chill

free ng

[jovial nest]

in other words

this....is pure Geysers

no goddamn soda

i imagine

[vernal lion]

so we have: TN-1 is killer showcase,
TN-2 with annoying bosses,
TN-3 is a complex
and TN-4 is stat check

[jovial nest]

outside of Pompeii, the other 2 bosses are known for their resilient shield

as for TN-4

yeah kinda like a stat check

but Ya feels like a damage check

[vernal lion]

ya also has hovering in p2

[south bone]

i'm wondering about the buff we will get

[gleaming lodge]

Based wildmane pfp haver 🤝

[glass monolith]

Well........ FUCK CM CONDITION

[mossy ore]

sl-s-4 cm looks fun

did i say fun

i mean suffering

[dark glade]

its fun dw

[vernal lion]

it's fun tbh

[karmic glade]

finally got enough trust

[weak gazelle]

oh thats the new tfn boss setup
interesting, wonder what kind of map layout they will use for it

[glass monolith]

Read lore for it - not optional

[weak gazelle]

eblana map layout+gimmick & bgm would be nice atmosphere to play

[glass monolith]

Oh CM for S-5 is "just" +33% Doly shield, i was expecting +100%

[vernal lion]

it's 200 hp, and boss is 133% hp

[glass monolith]

It was 150, now it is 200, it is +33% gain

Everything else can F off

Expecially last wave tornados

And yes i have no way to do those 50 additional damage to rush phase 1

[vernal lion]

imagine Clip boss becoming playable

man I don't want to farm SL anymore

I need chip and book

[karmic glade]

[glass monolith]

LMAO my dumb strategy worked in CM as well with just slight min max

Slapped NTR in and called it a day

[south bone]

Indigo gaming

[glass monolith]

Best caster in my roster for real, who else would 1v1 first FELLA

[karmic glade]

why does people like to use the right side in this map, just mountain can "solo" the right side

[south bone]

I should prob used her in S-5 as well

[vernal lion]

we need an aerial op that can deploy on banned tile

[glass monolith]

My "right" side is just Bagpipe, everything else is spawn kill Casters/Boards side

[dark glade]

mlyn on right side can kill caster on spawn pmuch

[glass monolith]

And who will smoke casters? HUH? HUH!?

[vernal lion]

this boss is pretty annoying when it's still on p1

[mossy ore]

i dont like how they're spamming the black sheeps

[vernal lion]

that is like what happened in SL-4 and SL-EX-7

[foggy grove]

you get used to it

[glass monolith]

That's why i rushed shit out of boss p1 on S stages

[mossy ore]

the guy who designed S stages should get a spank in the ass

[glass monolith]

S-5 not CM can oneshot e1 1 gravel with skill, not even EX-8 CM do that

[mossy ore]

just dont use gravel

[glass monolith]

I will call you when i need living target

[foggy grove]

how many times gravel died this event?

[vernal lion]

the oneshot because it's 250 arts dmg from pink cloud

[glass monolith]

Deployment order issue

[vernal lion]

well I just test to have a good afk, but guess it's not

[foggy grove]

just mo left
i'll do that later

[vernal lion]

imagine they make a boss with self destruction ability after being defeated

[glass monolith]

DoS: Boss with YOU ASS destruction ability after being phase changed

[foggy grove]

so like kirsten map wide

[glass monolith]

#strategy message

[vernal lion]

with kristen you can still kill each ball, this one itself is just a bomb

[foggy grove]

[vernal lion]

if its damage reduction is only effected physical and arts dmg, Imma just slap her with a full buff Monster

[glass monolith]

He talks about Kristen having damage reduction. So have fun she has 97.5% DR and your true damage does nothing

[peak cloak]

omg, i just realized that durin can bait sl ex 7 caster sheeps like how could i tried so hard to bait these sheeps while just deploy durin and give her a medic.

i havent yet tried with dolly, prob tomorrow

[vernal lion]

RNG gaming

[peak cloak]

xD yea

[halcyon adder]

Am i wrong or typhon would habe been ridiculously good for this mini anni?

[dark glade]

She habe

Well ppl coping with erato this anni

[agile perch]

Help sl-s-5

[halcyon adder]

I thought of bringing rosa lol

[agile perch]

This shit is too hard

No mylnar

[mossy ore]

borrow one

[vernal lion]

use erato

[agile perch]

Don’t want to

[dark glade]

Borrow one

[halcyon adder]

But i opted for fia intead

[agile perch]

Is there no way to clear without this mf

[mossy ore]

then eat shit and cope

[halcyon adder]

Why erato?

[dark glade]

I dont want to suggest not borrowing too its too micro intensive

[agile perch]

I also don’t have either redep alter

[dark glade]

Is harsh but true

[agile perch]

Since I stopped playjng at that time

[high warren]

Is SL-MO-1 doable with these op?

[vernal lion]

because it worked

[agile perch]

I legit stopped playing right over Texas yato and mylnar drop

[vernal lion]

[dark glade]

Mo is easy dw

[agile perch]

This 5 stage is too hard

[dark glade]

Erato sleep, knockdown hover, fall dead

Deal good dmg too

[mossy ore]

just borrow mlynar and clear it

[agile perch]

If you don’t have mylnar I genuinely can’t find a way to beat it

[high warren]

I got my ass whooped by those flying mfs In MO

[mossy ore]

why torturing yourself when you can borrow

and make your life easier

[agile perch]

Cause the I will be bad at game

[halcyon adder]

Damn so much white stuffs

[dark glade]

I will allow you on this one

[mossy ore]

you're already bad simply by asking for help here

[dark glade]

Now go borrow mlynar

[agile perch]

💀

[agile perch]

You go clear without mylnar or Texas or yato

[mossy ore]

i never said im good at the game

lmfao

[high warren]

Bro is onto something

[mossy ore]

i use them and i am fine with being called bad at the game

because that's just the truth

[agile perch]

💀

[mossy ore]

i literally don't give a shit

[dark glade]

Does the advice max quibai s1 make you play better?

I dont think so

[mossy ore]

i mean you can go ahead and mald w/o mlynar and then take pride "being good at the game"

just remember noone's gonna be impressed

[agile perch]

Nah but they shouldn’t make a stage that is so hard without 1 op

[mossy ore]

[agile perch]

Bad stage design

[dark glade]

Kukki alr 30+ min stuck on this stage

[mossy ore]

cry about it

SL-S-5 3 operators

no mlynar

[spark sinew]

just ling it

[mossy ore]

frfr

hey in fact

[spark sinew]

although ig ling used mly

[mossy ore]

there's 2 Ling records

[high warren]

Can ling it?

[mossy ore]

1 for CM and 1 for normal

ye

https://en.arkrec.com/operation/SL-S-5+答案在风中

[high warren]

I guess I'm going with ling

[spark sinew]

there's mly ling skalter i thought

[mossy ore]

ye apparently thats pozy

[dark glade]

I have a feeling the run will be cursed

[high warren]

Idh mlynar+skadi alter
Can I cope with e1 perfumer or skadi alter are must in those?

[vernal lion]

are you doing CM now?

[high warren]

Oh I forgor I have to do normal one first 🤣

[karmic glade]

one skill one phase, ceobe so good

[dark glade]

Ee steam knight

Stop bully

[high warren]

Based on looks skadi alter seem irreplaceable on that 3 op run for sl-s-5 💀
I guess I'm stuck for now

[dark glade]

Not interested in mlynar too?

[vernal lion]

well that is what they call a "flex record"
you can just play normally with 12 op slots

[hard urchin]

@karmic glade thx

[high warren]

He got that fixed support slot

[tidal sedge]

I dont undrstand this stage

[prime trellis]

does anyone here have a good ling that i can borrow

I need for sl-s-2

[spark sinew]

a lot of stuff holds bot i think

i used exalter

[cosmic thicket]

i used chungus

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah he is easily solo bot

Exalter is, not like i use him anyway

[cosmic thicket]

exec alter i used for top but he should work bottom too

[dark glade]

I use him for top and bottom

Because ponc sucks

[karmic glade]

I used suzuran S2 for this map unironically

[high warren]

Level 60 s3 m3 and mod 3

Spectre#0422

[karmic glade]

the range of decel binder just work here

[spark sinew]

~~another victim of propaganda ~~

[dark glade]

fang will be even worse

Altho can use her for is

[spark sinew]

is4 i suppose

i did hesr she works allegedly although idk, just draft ines later

[dark glade]

just need to pull ines

[spark sinew]

oh you meant the alt?

[dark glade]

BOTH

[tidal sedge]

I used Gnosis lol

[unreal oar]

Any low rarity for SL-S-3 CM? i manage 49/50 but dolly reaches blue box with full second phase HP intact

[glass monolith]

If you managed to 49/50 i think question should be how you can improve your current whatever you had. Over looking from completely new guide from 0

[spark sinew]

what's your borrow

i assume uncle?

[unreal oar]

Thorns borrow

[karmic glade]

what does this thorn even do, he is not even on fountain

[spark sinew]

[unreal oar]

his best

[spark sinew]

your squad doesn't seem low rarity either

[glass monolith]

Kroos no fountain, Thorns no fountain, and only one doing numbers on boss is Ceobe

[spark sinew]

ngl i expected like 3* + mlynar

[spark sinew]

looks like it aka not much

get kroos to fountain, and maybe borrow something better

i'm not sure how you handle enemies from the top, does eyja just heal ceobe enough?

[dark glade]

Im impressed with that setup

[unreal oar]

i have kroos there so she has more time knocking down the choppa sheep (exu and thorns cant handle them)

[dark glade]

[glass monolith]

What if Thorns on Ceobe spot, Eyja on Thorns, Kroos/Exu on fountains looking into inwards, Ceobe on Eyja spot. I am no Skalter gamer so this is why she was not mentioned in my copium

[spark sinew]

not surprised thorns sucks
sorry, force of habbit

[dark glade]

Cough cough

[spark sinew]

i wonder if we can move ceobe somewhere, so we can also swap eyjalter and kroost

[dark glade]

Ceobe beside thorns should work

The only thing that goes to right box should be blocked by mud anyway

[spark sinew]

i honesty wanted that row for mly

[dark glade]

Then you swap krooster and eyja

[spark sinew]

actually which op is the last deployed

are you baiting the collumn attack with...exu?

[dark glade]

Yea alternatively just place mlynar there

[dark violet]

well, I think I need to rework my strategy for this map. Getting ceobe back for starters

for cm I mean

[unreal oar]

thats a lot of swapping around, my head is turning. can you map it out on here? https://mapcn.ark-nights.com/map/act27side_s03#f#

[dark glade]

im surprised twice in less than 5 min

[spark sinew]

i didn't know boss goes into right blue box

[glass monolith]

[spark sinew]

hell, i'm suprised there's a right blue box wtf

i didn't notice it

[dark glade]

Thongs can regen himself no need to give her eyja

Actually

[dark violet]

I didn't know either

things almost went wrong

[dark glade]

Do the cursed saria s2

I dont know anymore

[spark sinew]

i think thorns is bad borrow anyhow

[dark glade]

My brain alr fried

[dark glade]

ikr

[spark sinew]

i won't be surprised if he dies without healing anyway

borrow mly

[dark glade]

borrow a horse

[unreal oar]

skalter or coeb will probably get cooked by first phase column attacks, no? whats the deploy order anyway

[cyan gorge]

S-3 cm so cringe that I had to borrow Mlynar

[dark glade]

See

[spark sinew]

i can't find operators on the "cn" verision of that site

[dark glade]

The guy above know the assignment

just give up

[spark sinew]

usually they're here

[glass monolith]

You have 4 more slots to make sure boss column attack F off, also i think Last Saria + bottle behind saria should keep most operators alive

[dark violet]

neveeer, I'll manage without support trust

[glass monolith]

Well time to enjoy PTSD prts navigation

[spark sinew]

my sl-3 blind team totally didn't bruteforce it

[glass monolith]

110% enemy stats, 150% movement speed

Ability to slap stage numbers into search is amazing

[dark violet]

can't believe you're using mlynar

wait, this is your blind team, not the meta ops showcase?

[glass monolith]

Can't believe there is 1 5* amongus

[spark sinew]

well i think i modified it after s-1 and s-2 were dp checks

and added flagpipe E: (well, agentpipe )

but ye

[spark sinew]

...is there a difference

[glass monolith]

S-1 was Chain caster Totter Kroos alter check

[dark violet]

crying

I'll trust in ceobe

[dark glade]

what 4 years of ak do to account

[spark sinew]

why wouldn't i bring good ops to blind stages

[agile perch]

I did it finally

[spark sinew]

but ye mly borrow will make boss' targetting irrelevant
just keep his collumn clear of any other ops
and he does good damage duh

[dark glade]

With thorns?

Dont tell me with thorns

[unreal oar]

what would be a oncle solution for sl-s-3 cm? these are my humble operators

[radiant mesa]

You u have good enough operators that you can probably find a YouTube video with yours plus maybe a support

[dark glade]

I cant even load the image and my discord lagging help

[cyan gorge]

Use Exu to ground boss, borrow Mlynar to bait and kill

[unreal oar]

i tried already

im all out of practice tickets

[spark sinew]

yeah i still can't find how to "place" operators on that site

[tall sierra]

I follow oyuki guide

[dark glade]

Its in the bottom

You drag and drop

[unreal oar]

click operator, click tile, then drag and drop direction

[spark sinew]

wait, i think i just double clicked it

the new features compared to humble ark-map made me think it's different

[dark glade]

Wait thats not arkmap?

Why the ui 1:1

[tall sierra]

It was fun abit at sl-s-5

[spark sinew]

wait wtf
ok whatever

[novel musk]

bruh its the worst stage ive played

i hateit so much T_T

[glass monolith]

I just went rarity abuse right of the bat

[tall sierra]

Mylnar him

With GG

[glass monolith]

Fountain Fia to spread smoke

[tall sierra]

Use the coke

Also

Have to bait incoming tornado that is goin to right side

[novel musk]

i beat it already lol

but its a fking stupid stage thats not fun

[glass monolith]

I had fun because i was winning and using Fia Archetto combo for once

[novel musk]

maybe im nub but there was too much rng becos its too hard to predict the boss' column attack

[tall sierra]

Um

[novel musk]

and becos its cm one wrong column attack can fk up the entire run

[tall sierra]

Just use mylnar as star bait

[glass monolith]

last operator deployed or Mlynar face cuz taunt

[spark sinew]

well this is a bad pacement surely

[glass monolith]

[spark sinew]

some shit probably goes to the skadi collumn and taps her

[novel musk]

no mylnar and last op deployed isnt so ez to fix when u got 2 lanes to deal with

[tall sierra]

U have any1 that can slow?

[glass monolith]

You god damn doctor, you can deal with it

[novel musk]

and also no honeyberry or eyjaalter

anyway i beat it already but the stage is fking stupid

[glass monolith]

#strategy message I still not sure why my placement wasn't accepted

[spark sinew]

because it uses thorns

[dark glade]

She can transform into a guard dw

[unreal oar]

skalter is there mainly to help my mudrock out. she gets beaten up at E2 lv60 on CM

[spark sinew]

i refuse

[novel musk]

maybe it would be easier if i had meta units and what not but i use skadi so

[tall sierra]

Also if u have mudrock
Put her in E4 and she solo any incoming tornado

[dark violet]

guess mlynar is not that needed. Honestly what was the real threat were the flying sheep, they go zoom so fast. You really need some kind of stun if the dps isn't enough.
Also once again gladiia s3 showing glory

[tall sierra]

Um

U can ground em

By stunning em with texalter

[dark glade]

He got the superior texas

[dark violet]

that's what flametail was for

[spark sinew]

interesting
i mean you can use her for mud, and just deploy seaborn for when you need to burst boss

[tall sierra]

And yea it very hard to kill this boss if no multiple hit count ops or abusing the coke

[spark sinew]

almost like devs wanted you to use the mechanics (cola)

[dark violet]

honestly I don't know how flametail managed to tank the boss aggro through sheer perfumer regen

but perfumer sucks amirite

[tall sierra]

Flametail has high dodge

[high warren]

I coped with eyja/chen alter/mlynar bursts + ptilopsis

[unreal oar]

but i used Cola™️

[dark violet]

she doesn't dodge arts without s3

[unreal oar]

i need to eat. i will be back complaining about my skill issues in due time

[dark violet]

I'm gonna assume 4 is going to be fairly easy still, then it finishes with dolly rematch and pain in 5

[agile perch]

Ngl ash on the mo map is so funny

[spark sinew]

4 is easy But not with this comp

[dark glade]

Pepelaugh he doesnt know

[spark sinew]

although maybe AH just facetank

[dark violet]

let's see how this goes

[spark sinew]

so conflicted

i do wish you to succeed

but i also wish for AH to lose

[dark violet]

understandable

I will never use mlynar

[agile perch]

That’s what I said

Until sl 5

[halcyon adder]

How hard is this event from a casual player perspective?

[dark violet]

it's more complex

you can ignore the challenge maps though

[halcyon adder]

Harder than lone trail?

[agile perch]

Imo if you don’t have mylnar it’s harder than most events we’ve had

[dark violet]

depends how much you can use the mechanic

[halcyon adder]

What does mlynar do?

[tall sierra]

Bait star

And dps

[spark sinew]

only CM left? if not, you can just do regular runs, only loses 1 sanity
can try Minus' placement or borrow Mlynar and change it a bit

[halcyon adder]

He can tank it on cm?

[scarlet mortar]

for normal stages SL is fine

[dark violet]

is it really going to be harder than H12-4

[scarlet mortar]

EX more annoying but honestly doable

S stages fuck that

[agile perch]

Idk about that

[spark sinew]

baiting the boss sounds so shit

[scarlet mortar]

SL-S stages are much more annoying than CW-S for me

[spark sinew]

thankfully we have a choice to ignore this part

[tall sierra]

Baiting the boss star attack is so ez

[agile perch]

This event

Much more multitasking

[scarlet mortar]

yh there's micro

[dark violet]

it's very DP intensive yeah

[scarlet mortar]

but i wouldn't call it hard

[agile perch]

No more like

Afk strats

[agile perch]

If you have mylnar

[scarlet mortar]

never used him

[spark sinew]

felt harder than lone trail to me

[agile perch]

How you beat s5

[spark sinew]

boss stage vs boss stage at least

[agile perch]

Ling?

[scarlet mortar]

i didn't yet

[agile perch]

Oh

[scarlet mortar]

that's why i said fuck the S stages

[tall sierra]

No mylnar is fine

[agile perch]

Lmao

[spark sinew]

you can do ling ye

[tall sierra]

Put another dps

[agile perch]

They die

[dark violet]

I'll see, might agree, Lone trail was easier once you understood how to exploit the boss mechanic

[spark sinew]

not blocking is another option

[agile perch]

I tried chalter but you can’t keep her alive

[scarlet mortar]

think many people do say SL-S-5 is the hardest event stage so far

[tall sierra]

Chalter is slow

[agile perch]

Yeah

Who else tho

[tall sierra]

Surtr

[dark violet]

I'll let you know how no mlynar goes, let's do it

[agile perch]

She doesn’t hit the guy

[spark sinew]

lone trail boss stage went from "oh no" to "piss easy" once you know to use pushers

[dark violet]

pushers?

[scarlet mortar]

yh

everything has weight zero except for kristen

in her stages specifically

[spark sinew]

insert a joke about AH player and facetanking

[dark violet]

I mostly used skalter drain and ceobe/andrea funny range to clear the far orbs

[agile perch]

Is cantibile good

Or wtv her name is

[tall sierra]

Lone trail is ball managing

[agile perch]

Should I build

[tall sierra]

B4 she change phase

[spark sinew]

melee gundams basically could be stalled forever by e1 shaw

ish

[dark violet]

tbh I didn't abuse it that much, since needed more ranged

[spark sinew]

you can

[agile perch]

Bro why did I stop playing right when all broken ops dropped

[dark violet]

however I did abuse dorothy a lot to not deal with the rockets

[spark sinew]

ines is straight up better but you can use both
although in a lot of stages you shouldn't

[dark violet]

they folded like paper

[agile perch]

How good is ines/cantibile if I alr have full m3 flagpipe

[spark sinew]

ines is above everything

[agile perch]

That good?

[spark sinew]

drop her into flagpipe if you want

[agile perch]

My entire lineup just got powerfrept ngl

[spark sinew]

canta is good but you can just use flagpipe

[agile perch]

Sa mylnar

Flagpipe ines

[spark sinew]

sa was dead way before mlynar

[agile perch]

Phantom

[spark sinew]

ines replaces a flag, not bagpipe

[dark glade]

Phantom dies

[spark sinew]

no comment on phantom

[agile perch]

Why they do phantom like that bruh

[dark glade]

Wait why phantom is mentioned again?

[agile perch]

They should legit rework him

Make him have more burst

[scarlet mortar]

eh nah

[spark sinew]

just use him as s3 bot

[dark glade]

He is fine, s3 best skill

[scarlet mortar]

just double down on his clone

[agile perch]

Yeah now I have to re m3 him

[scarlet mortar]

make it cheaper and more deployable

[spark sinew]

should've had m6 from way before anyway

[scarlet mortar]

idt i've ever had it used besides CW-S-4 which i haven't done

average niche player

[spark sinew]

better than texas in izumik

[agile perch]

Wowewww

[dark glade]

But the 6 man still include texas

[scarlet mortar]

lbozo

[spark sinew]

he also has better module than texas so he can actually abuse wavebreaker+nml

[agile perch]

Mudrock feels so much worse now

Idk why

[scarlet mortar]

enemies started having def stats

and DR exists ig

[spark sinew]

gladiia maga weedy ange phantom texas then?

[dark glade]

Huh isnt the 6 man texas phantom gladia weedy mag ange

[spark sinew]

idr it

but why would it have texas

[dark glade]

or you refering in general?

[agile perch]

Dr?

[scarlet mortar]

mudrock S3 keeps her relevant but S2 might get rushed every other time

[scarlet mortar]

damage reduction

[agile perch]

Oh yeah

S2 still nice in general

And for afk stuff

[halcyon adder]

Does not do enough dmg

[spark sinew]

ok i see the

[agile perch]

Yeah

[scarlet mortar]

more people should use S3

[agile perch]

It just doesn’t kill

[spark sinew]

there's 5 man

[scarlet mortar]

unfortunately i am not more people

[spark sinew]

same team without texas

[dark glade]

Ok texas useless

[spark sinew]

wait

[dark glade]

Phantom better

[spark sinew]

i'm probably lying

[dark glade]

Im waiting

[spark sinew]

lemme

[scarlet mortar]

me when i spread misinformation on the internet

[spark sinew]

why did i say "5 op relicless" before

[dark glade]

Lemme just sleep instead of getting lied once more

[spark sinew]

you will be lied to and you will love it

[dark glade]

kirara exist in temp squad hauck you just need ro roll it

[spark sinew]

yeah she kills a couple jellies

[halcyon adder]

I am using blaze too much after getting her module

[spark sinew]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1jN411k7aN/

you could probably just leak them

but this is a leakless clear so oh well

[unreal oar]

im back and ready to whine again

[agile perch]

Wait

When is next Texas banner

Alt

[spark sinew]

ok she stuns mantas as well

[spark sinew]

never

limiteds don't rerun

[unreal oar]

💔

[spark sinew]

she will be on the banner pool (with 5x chance of an usual offrate) on virtuosa iirc

but she won't rerun

[agile perch]

Yea that’s what I meant

[glass monolith]

For some reason during MO i hoped to see Big Fella on skateboard

GG event got restoration as reminder that we could have Typhon event right now

[halcyon adder]

[spark sinew]

yeah basically there are 3 limited pools

(not including collabs)

summer, CNY and others

texas is the third one

[dark violet]

huh, 4 was harder in a way. The pressure is a lot and it took me a while to remember to switch back to flametail s3

after I did that it was enough though

[spark sinew]

cm?

[dark violet]

not yet, too lazy to use potion

I did a funky AH only setup for the right side, to your ban

this must have been a gladiia tile intentionally

the more I play, the more dorothy becomes useful

[karmic glade]

it's not like there are a hole there, what is gladiia even doing

[glass monolith]

the more i play, the more i ask why the fuck E2 Aciddrop was my first

[dark violet]

she's washing the clothes

[dark violet]

jokes aside, I almost never use gladiia with holes

her s3 is just useful good on its own

[spark sinew]

doesn't look like she does damage

[dark violet]

well, not now, but she cleaned the waves prior, that's why there's so much red fog in the box

[dark violet]

dorothy mines can allow tactical bottle can destructions far from op range

[cyan gorge]

Wouldn’t s2 have been better in that scenario?

[spark sinew]

poor man's gg

[unreal oar]

will this work?

[spark sinew]

should be skalter is a bit sad here

maybe mly can go one tile higher

[glass monolith]

You have practice plans to try.... right?

[spark sinew]

you get better coverage and a better spot for seaborn

[cyan gorge]

Nah that spot is fine cause he’ll be on geyser

[spark sinew]

yeah, hence maybe

[unreal oar]

i came here to chew bubblegum and use practice plans. and im all out of practice plans.

[dark violet]

it can only target 2 at once, but the physical damage would probably be good yeah

[spark sinew]

cause idt him being on geyser does mu...oh right. we don't want pink tile damage amp

i suppose

[cyan gorge]

It’s less pink smoke for him to tank

[dark violet]

yeah, she was pure fluff on this one

[unreal oar]

i think mud needs help. dont think mine can solo CM at E2 lv60

thats why skalter there

[spark sinew]

just use s3
maybe, will need to wait for tomorrow ig

i didn't use mud here

[unreal oar]

im most worried that the kroos just gets overrun

[unreal oar]

what did you use there if anything

[dark violet]

I might m3 her s2 at some point tbh

it's true that physical could be useful at times

I'll try doing that here for cm with sl7

[spark sinew]

i'm not sure
i think i used gg to chip, and then maybe texalter the rest

with some saccs with agents

[dark violet]

overall the cm doesn't look too scary though, let's see how wrong I am

oh, that's what it meant, alright

problem solved

[gray stone]

damn they give Mountain extra crit chances

wowie

Mountain module gives extra hits and extra crit chance

Should be a good amount of DPS increase

[crystal cargo]

Mod info is out?

What about Chong

What does he get

[glass monolith]

What about useless ones

[gray stone]

15% physical dodge, extra SP on skill

so bad module, wait for the second one

[crystal cargo]

Physical dodge mid

He can just tank

[gray stone]

No, that's why Mountain was an unkillable little shit

[crystal cargo]

Wasn’t it his regen

Not his dodge

[glass monolith]

both

[gray stone]

The problem is that the 2nd module gives +10 ASPD when over 50%

[dark violet]

lol

[spark sinew]

wait so both 6* brawlers gotten it

[gray stone]

and the talent upgrade will be the crit one

[spark sinew]

now we wait for cy to get a second mod then

[gray stone]

ChongYue is +15% physical dodge
Mountain is +10 ASPD when >50%

[dark violet]

so we got brawler mods?

still no bard or lord I guess

[crystal cargo]

SMH mountain gets even better and Chong gets a ok mod

[gray stone]

yeah, so ChongYue first module will help with his charging problems, but since 2nd mod will give him more damage, just wait for that one

[polar steppe]

the wizards keep killing eben and nearl with the triple attack; placed at the top right. HELP

[crystal cargo]

How much more sp does Chong get now

4?

[gray stone]

On kill, extra SP gain. Now if he doesn't kill, he still have some SP back

It is a DPS increase somewhat, requiring less hits for S3

[spark sinew]

oh they both got the "wrong" module

quite funny

[gray stone]

but I won't do the maffs

[gray stone]

Extra damage on Mountain is nice

I don't know how dodge chances stack

[dark violet]

no ifrit mod 2 either

[gray stone]

without mods Shu talent 1 tiles give 70 HP/s regen and 10% Shelter
Zuo Le talent 1 gives him up to +50 ASPD and +2 SP/s regen Tenacity/Berserk buff (caps when at 30% HP)

[spark sinew]

i suppose

maybe I'm underrating mountain currently

it's always hard to guess what he tanks and what he doesn't tank

[gray stone]

idk how much his extra crit chance will do

currently he doesn't really suffer from that problem

oh well, time to throw him to Ch11 dogs to find out

[glass monolith]

You know you can't dodge application of dogs bleed which if i recall are "Fucking infinite till you green number heal"

[dark violet]

doesn't it end after some time?

[spark sinew]

what was their weight again

[dark violet]

I remember being able to outregen it

[spark sinew]

mountain dies psure

oh you probably mean AH

[dark violet]

perfumer

[glass monolith]

Oh yea my bad, 100 and 150 arts per second for 10 seconds

[gray stone]

Mine survived tho

idk

[spark sinew]

i remember him dying

[gray stone]

He was a staple to duo left H11-4 for me

[spark sinew]

on like h11-4

[gray stone]

He should be able to survive the first dog

[spark sinew]

potential difference maybe or just luck

[gray stone]

pot2

[spark sinew]

his crits and dodge are pretty troll

[gray stone]

yeah, so his second module can probably turn him into some bullshit staller

unless it's fucking +DEF% for upgrades, then I'm ending it all

[spark sinew]

man worked hard enough, let him retire

just realized eyja s1 is so bs i forgot i have s3 masteried

never even crossed my mind to swap to it...

[turbid badge]

moob

[dark violet]

mmh, seems like I need to rework positions

[spark sinew]

mood or noob? correct assessment either way, but

second point still stands

[gray stone]

man boobs

[dark violet]

mmh, not perfect but it works enough. Cm is going to be more troublesome though. This is a mean mission

[random widget]

You guys are so crazy

I can barely do EX 8

[glass monolith]

2 years of playing this stupid game

Happy it still makes dumb shit to be challenging

[dark violet]

alright, was a bit harder than expected, found the right positions to do it

I'll likely need a support for cm though

gonna try ines

[glass monolith]

I used Ines to prevent skate boards from skating, and boarding

[dark violet]

my setup is cursed

[glass monolith]

Enemy buff on CM +10%, +20% from S stages

[dark violet]

[glass monolith]

Me on SL-8: Kroos alter, Shamare
Me on EX-8: Kroos alter, Elysium, Warf, Sora
Me on S-5: Pozy almost fucking soloed it when shield dropped

[dark violet]

WHAT THE HELL

CM was so easy I did it on the first try

getting ines broke the map

bruh

[ancient hearth]

ines to stop the pink fart skateboarders helps a lot

[dark violet]

I don't actually use her against the skates, lol

I don't care much about them

she's just great to break the bottles and stop the boss for a while

[ancient hearth]

but this is also one of the maps mountain breaks, he can solo right side as long as you intercept the tornados

[dark violet]

myrtle solos the right side

with dorothy

[ancient hearth]

you need healing to deal with the wizards

[dark violet]

I don't

myrtle and perfumer passive regen

she just outheals any damage from the sheep

[ancient hearth]

by solo, I mean truly solo, as it's just mountain on the right side of the map

and you can cluster all your dps in a death ball on the left

[dark violet]

my strategy was to asphixiate the lanes on every front

and have 4 ops dedicated to destroying the boss

I just hold the lanes like normal then spam gravel to bait attack and activate NTR, popping bottles. When the boss falls, I just drop ntr, skadi, and whatever else.

I reach phase 2 before dolly reaches the first hot spring

took me a while to get the right placements for dorothy and perfumer so they aren't exposed to fog, then the map became easy

[ancient hearth]

pretty sure the tile next to the hot springs are immune to getting pink mist'd

you'll still take burn damage from exploding clouds, but you won't get the pink fog on that tile

[fringe jackal]

Tornadoes are generated when the screen goes pink right? To intercepr we drop frd on pink tile?

[ancient hearth]

no, the tornados meaning the 2 sheep black cloud

[dark violet]

to intercept you just block

[fringe jackal]

Ok

[ancient hearth]

they're like lancers, they explode on the first hit

[dark violet]

although with dorothy I kill them first

[ancient hearth]

but the tornado's stats itself are very poor, pretty much any dps unit with more then 4 tiles of coverage on it's path can probably pop it

[glass monolith]

7.8k hp 390 def 0 res on S-5 CM

It is literally conehead sheep with increased movement speed and +50% def

[dark violet]

one super mine one shots a tornado, a normal one leaves it at 20% hp or so

[unreal oar]

My solution for SL-S-3 CM ✨

[tidal sedge]

Damn it

[flint falcon]

i cant believe it took me like 6 practice on sl s 4 cm to notice that soda bottles can be dumped on ranged tiles
made things so much easier

[glass monolith]

I found THAT out only because watching Youtube after finishing all EX stages

[visual cove]

how does that help though?

[glass monolith]

On S-4 CM : Beat me
on jsut S-4 it allows to spread white smoke to bottom part and potentially lead to few caster sheeps getting reduced life expectancy

[flint falcon]

the top right corner, with only one available ground tile

[glass monolith]

oh right and reapers can attack ranged tiles bottles

[flint falcon]

welp time to wait for plan reset and go at s5 tmr

god knows how much of a pain s3 cm dolly was for me

[vernal lion]

belike me, fail the first attempt
because I think playing without flagbearer and pioneer are cool

[glass monolith]

Sir put your 3 agents down

[dark violet]

alright yeah, ines makes it not even close

@spark sinew guess my setup was just right, no mlynar

[vernal lion]

Ines s3: I am vanguard, but...

[glass monolith]

During CC11 i did both DP3 down dailies without Flagpipe combo with Cantabile alone

[vernal lion]

those fusion sheeps hit hard af

[glass monolith]

Carl they have HP of conehead sheep

If just evaporated from touching edge of my Pozy

[dark violet]

use dorothy

[vernal lion]

imagine having Dorothy

[glass monolith]

imagine i don't get Typhon but get off banner Dor

[dark violet]

everyone needs more dorothy

every dorothy banner I'll try to get at least one pot

road to doro6

[vernal lion]

me, when Dorothy refused my 100th pull

[dark violet]

at least the good news is that I barely used the AH buffs. I maximized using the other ops

when your vanguards just lanehold for the whole mission

[glass monolith]

AH + Shu + 4 Sui new meta trust

[dark violet]

crying

but 5 and 3 felt easier than 4 for me. In event difficulty scale I'd say SL is at something like 70%?

LT was harder in the end

[glass monolith]

70% of of POO Robot stall or what?

[dark violet]

lol

[vernal lion]

LT was easier for me

[glass monolith]

Erato Liskarm joined the room

[dark violet]

I'd place SN at 80% and chapter 12 at 90%

[glass monolith]

Btw both LT and SL were about same for me. Did no 6* on 99% of it, then abused shit out of S stage

But because we have 2 boss stages this event i did twice the abuse of LT where i uninstalled only S-5

[vernal lion]

challenge: playing without vanguard

[glass monolith]

No screw you (hugs Cantabile)

[dark violet]

I will respectfully decline. I'm a dorothy junkie

[glass monolith]

Btw - Blacknight in this even can sleep Bottles causing everyone to not attack them

[dark violet]

ye, I saw that with kafka

was certainly a moment

[vernal lion]

I actually can do it until S-5, but S-5 is pretty hard on fast-setup

EX-8 is still fine to play without vg

[glass monolith]

S-4 rush you with tornado and skate, twice, on CM with caster, like how

[dark violet]

4 was by far the hardest yeah

needed a lot of retries because one misstep and no dp

[vernal lion]

I mean, if you can rush Texas - Yato on right side first,
then mountain, chalter and 1 aa sniper for left side

[dark violet]

well, 4 cm, normal is fairly easy

[vernal lion]

S-4 is kinda easy for me too

[glass monolith]

You guys having strategies which allows missteps?

[glass monolith]

One must make Reaper players happy

[dark violet]

dorothy means I can do a lot of funny things

a leak? just place a mine

place more mines

clear swarm with aoe

slow wave rush

destroy bottles when you placed in a dumb spot outside of range

[glass monolith]

Mine'd if i ask how was your day

Okay i had my dose of online for day, time to coma

[vernal lion]

Dorothy, after saw this:

[dark violet]

it was windorofull

[glass monolith]

Visiting Russia at summer be like (If you visit Siberia part)

[dark violet]

my endgame goal is to have doro pot 6 and friend anyone who wants dorothy support

must spread the blessing of revelation

[vernal lion]

I actually have a friend like that

[jovial nest]

ah yes, relying on lifesteal or skills with massive cooldowns for heals

[glass monolith]

My endgame is E2 as much characters as i can before Yostar EoS. pot 6 Chen from god damn top tag recruits as f2p

[dark violet]

I did hoshi pot 6 from recruitment, before getting saria

[vernal lion]

I will stop farming SL, I need to farm other things which are more necessary for me now

[jovial nest]

I've cleared shop so I'm farming Devices and Roccs again

[dark violet]

now that it's all cleared I can farm the end of the shop

[jovial nest]

and yeah

[dark violet]

after that I'll farm lmd

[jovial nest]

i delayed cleaning out shop so the missions and first clears don't get wasted

now that it was over yesterday, cleaned shop now

[dark violet]

hyper optimal players be like

do you also not pull until the 24 free are spent

[jovial nest]

hyper optimal = patience

ez requirement

well the pulls are different

i want to use them asap

[dark violet]

[jovial nest]

and its not like i get anything from the free pullz

[dark violet]

I mean, no extra pulls until the free ones are done

[jovial nest]

5* at best

i can top up fine for pulls

but i'm never using PO for farm

[glass monolith]

Managed this time. Didn't help that i still needed 34 pulls for first 6* of banner

[jovial nest]

btw

with module

Gladiia can tank Steam Knight H11-4 just fine, right?

[dark violet]

I made a mistake on this one, and spent 10 at once, and got the limited on the first, losing 9 pulls for nothing

[glass monolith]

Gladiia is most glass when you have entire AH. And you still take 70% of 2700 - your def times 3

[jovial nest]

My prev plan was to make Hoederer my Arts/True DMG tank or overall Boss Duelist

but now that Shu is on the table bringing easy Shelter

I'm revisiting the AH squad

[dark violet]

gladiia? uuh, I wouldn't use her for big tanking

[jovial nest]

I am considering a duo

[dark violet]

however you can tank no problem with specters

[jovial nest]

whether it's Skadi or Spelter

[glass monolith]

Gladiia e2 60 mod 3 takes 4906 from boss super hit, have fun

[dark violet]

then go for splatter, they're the iconic duo

sp bonus means you can use more skill funny

[jovial nest]

hmmm and Spelter lanes better

yeah

its usually the annoying part of using AH combos

it has to be a duo

a bit annoying for my tastes

[glass monolith]

1 sp per 4 seconds is still less that Ptilo e2 1 sp every 3.33 second

[vernal lion]

AH, when they can't tank a chap9 pillar:

[jovial nest]

the consideration there is

is it worth spamming Spelter's S3 and....whatever you think Gladiia's best skill is for the map

For now, yeah, Spelter's S3 has come through for me

a lot

[vernal lion]

if you have Gladiia, Spalter s3 is worth because it's pretty high on dmg

[jovial nest]

but how bout you guys

[glass monolith]

With each AH buff we are closer to our dream. To have BK (NL boss) stats on Skadi

50% DR, revives, 3k ATK, 2k DEF, 50+ Res

[vernal lion]

the thing is, when you use s3 you can't make her die to have the doll phase

[dark violet]

me using the full 5 with skalter

[jovial nest]

I just with that talent ain't tied to Gladiia

it's so good

but she doesn't bring much to the table outside tankiness. even her S3M3 damage is meh

[vernal lion]

you know Gladiia and Spalter are the core of AH

[dark violet]

s3 is fine to spam yeah, it's useful as a full health refill if needed too

[jovial nest]

I'm trying to make it only a duo at best

i don't want my dream team to be just AH members

[vernal lion]

and Skadi is just an atk buffer, but her single block sometimes works great

when you want to camp specific enemy

[dark violet]

doll phase kinda sucks when going for AH tank

[jovial nest]

i mean

the consideration there is

you don't want her to die

[dark violet]

you can rephrase that to, it's hard to have her die

[vernal lion]

she only dies if it's boss enemy from RA

[dark violet]

wait, skadi only atk buffer? she gives an extra 20% hp

[jovial nest]

right now, Shu having easy access to ASPD, Max HP, and Shelter is making me consider bringing a bit of AH in the squad since Hoederer has his own Shelter and it doesn't stack while AH has built-in DR.

[vernal lion]

that is modY

[dark violet]

well, of course

[vernal lion]

consider you won't ever use her regularly

[dark violet]

who modX skadi

[vernal lion]

modX is -30 redeploy time

still worth it

[dark violet]

[flint falcon]

AH's built-in DR does stack with sanctuary no?

[vernal lion]

yes

[dark violet]

so we know what shu does now?

[jovial nest]

descriptions

[dark violet]

did we get her base skills

[jovial nest]

and some guessings in numbers (based on MAFFS using stream)

but it gives a bit of a clear picture

[flint falcon]

multiplically or additionally?

[dark violet]

ah

[jovial nest]

the only consideration about AH DR is

[dark violet]

you can always get more

[jovial nest]

its physical and arts DR

although true damage enemies are rare anyways

but it ain't like Guardian mod DR

which is universal

[vernal lion]

additionally ofc lol

[jovial nest]

i GODDAMN pray

that Shu's Y mod

hits her Shelter talent

[dark violet]

hoshiguma waiting for her time again

[jovial nest]

NEVER

[dark violet]

[vernal lion]

hoshi is just a thicc durian

[jovial nest]

lulz

[dark violet]

remember SN

[jovial nest]

PvZ2 terms

we have Mlynar now so.....

sure he tanks shittier

but i have methods

[dark violet]

never mlynar

I will remain 100% certified mlynarless quality

[vernal lion]

the only thing I like playing with Mlynar is his taunt

it sures helpful most of case

[jovial nest]

i just like him because of....everything

the con of him not being able to lane is worth it

so yeah my considerations to Hoederer is a bit shaky now. It will be harder to insert Spelter and Gladiia in my squad. But the Shu shelter ease, i have to consider them again

[vernal lion]

I will E2 my Tachanka in next few days

[tropic valve]

I'm excited for Shu

[dark violet]

tbh I don't think I'll get a new main squad op for a while now

[tropic valve]

teleporting enemies is just another synonym for keeping them in Schwarz range

[dark violet]

dorothy sealed the deal, I can't not use her anymore, and it's already so full to the brim

[jovial nest]

Shu S1 alone is pretty worth it because of the Shelter talent and her easy to use conditions (excluding Sui one. I am not gonna desecrate my squad build purely for that)

[tidal sedge]

i need a fuckin 0.1x speed for this damn SL-S-4

[vernal lion]

*HEAVY MACHINE GUN sound