strategy

[void terrace]

Or Kronos alter on the gyser

Ceobe on the geyser works too

[gentle finch]

aight bet

[void terrace]

But mostly soda bottles

[tropic valve]

Exu + Schwarz should spawnkill in EX-8-CM

idk if S stages are the same

will see tomorrow

[gentle finch]

i still have time ig

[vocal leaf]

don’t forget they need buffs and debuffs tho

i used suzu and warf

[gentle finch]

i have both dw

[tropic valve]

oh yeah I used Elysium as debuff

[vocal leaf]

i actually use suzu not for dolly, but to slow down the mobs coming, exia and schwarz waste time attacking them

[tropic valve]

oh I know what you mean

my Elysium does that too

the wasted damage makes a pretty big difference

[turbid badge]

zzz

[quick pecan]

rarity abuse

[gentle finch]

o shi

I forgot to bring nightingale to the anni run

[wicked viper]

nightingale prob won't matter much

since most of the art dmg come from the burn

which shred res anyway

[gentle finch]

🥺

[wicked viper]

i wouldn't bring schwar for anni because of how annoying she is tho

[gentle finch]

btw which lane foed eblana come from

[wicked viper]

[gentle finch]

does*

[wicked viper]

from bottom

can ya screenshot the map

for pathing

[gentle finch]

bet

[wicked viper]

chongyue is great for this anni

because he can cover both lane

[gentle finch]

ª

thanks

hm

[turbid badge]

yeah i got lazy

[wicked viper]

actually that was a wrong spawn

[turbid badge]

sorry

[gentle finch]

wha

[turbid badge]

exu still relevant

[wicked viper]

it's more like this

[gentle finch]

isee

[wicked viper]

i find saria chongyue mizuki horn ines ifrit/fiametta particularly great for this anni map ya

there's a very nice ifrit/fiametta spot

[gentle finch]

lmao I fucked up the entire run

creo

this was a test run anyways

🥺

[wicked viper]

it's prob worth to just nuke eblana with surtr/texas/yato when she spawn rather than risking her touching your afk units

[gentle finch]

I'm planning a suzu qiubai burst

[cyan gorge]

QB + Suzu + Aak was my boss solution

[gentle finch]

xd

[dark glade]

[strange fable]

mission accomplished

[crystal cargo]

you need to bring a lot of medics

[tropic valve]

how did you end up with 2 DP?

[crystal cargo]

i think the boss one shots

ur units

though

so might not want to place anything in the center

[gentle finch]

I'm silly

[gentle finch]

aight

don't got time to do another run so I'll try tomorrow

[foggy grove]

your medic is kal

on burning reed

[gentle finch]

test run 🥺

[runic hull]

I just got Gavial, are they any good? Should I switch out anyone for them?

[foggy grove]

gavial guard?

if so she is good

[dark glade]

swap out one of the sniper

or orchid

or one of the defender

wait i feel like something missing why are there 3 sniper and 3 defender

there is no vanguard

[sharp violet]

Hello im newbi
Maybe this dumb question but how to exchange pure gold to lmd?

[sullen rover]

from trading post

[sharp violet]

Oh okay thankyou

[sullen rover]

you can choose which building to build btw
heres a guide on how to correctly build your base

[dark glade]

damn the tutorial is so well drawn and written

[tall cairn]

Like every other guide we have.

[sharp violet]

Thankyou

Wich i should take?

[turbid badge]

which selectors

are all 3 diff

[sharp violet]

Wait

[turbid badge]

also u should show your roster

[sharp violet]

From this selector wich one i should take?

[turbid badge]

lappland , ptilo, warf, spectre

which one fits ur needs the best

[tall cairn]

Btw Teta, how’s deepcolor raise progress.

[turbid badge]

mod 3 lvl 40 m2

its been halted cuz silence alter s2 m2

[sharp violet]

You mean my main team or all my operator i have?

[tall cairn]

how come you raise halfway.

[turbid badge]

main teams fine but roster will be perferable

[turbid badge]

bc urs exist

anyways

i raised alot of 3*

[tall cairn]

skemmed.

[turbid badge]

only ones not maxed is adnachiel and like iirc beagle

wverybody else max

[tall cairn]

No like Adna?

[turbid badge]

didnt see much use

[tall cairn]

Fair. Tho he’s better than reserve sniper.

[turbid badge]

i raised catapult

shes decebt

[sharp violet]

This all my operator

[turbid badge]

i like how her shirt says love and piece

[tall cairn]

Lmao.

[turbid badge]

grab ptilo or Lappland tbh

[sharp violet]

Okay

[turbid badge]

the last one it really depends but for newbie kazemaru,rockrock,pluma, and ashlock are fairly great you can look into their kits so see which you like more

Normally ill just recc Pluma

[tall cairn]

Easiest to use.

[turbid badge]

wtf my man missing spot

[sharp violet]

Thankyou so much bro

[turbid badge]

Also raise your kroos

and baseslaves

^ just a reminder

in case u get spot

ir purestream

e1 them

theres alot just check the base sheet

or ask hell

[celest bluff]

And when you using Jaye for base

Do not e1 him

[soft crystal]

E1 when gnosis e2

[weak gazelle]

e1 jaye combo are expensive yeah

[celest bluff]

I doubt newer players have gnosis because you know

[soft crystal]

They will cause i said so

Buy all of it yes-

[golden pond]

i cant do it

[dark glade]

yes im on fire

[turbid badge]

Use a aoe medic

[dark glade]

wait its not even eblana wave yet

and are you using 2 e1 ST medic?

[peak cloak]

first, why so many vg? 1-2 vgs are enough
use only myrtle or give the red squirrel her s1 and u will be fine, second, if u tried to follow KyostinV's or Eckogen's strat with Mlynar, just follow them completely. thus putting a one block guard behind Mlynar isnt a good idea.

[civic bear]

ur lacking in consistent damage espcially for the right lane. mlynar doesnt solo carry cuz this anni is more of consistent waves. also boss will be a problem later so bringing a defender to tank the right side would be ideal

[void terrace]

Damn shu is insane

Global sp battery with 4 sui opperators

I.e dusk nian chongyue and Shu would make a decent team itself

But it seems to battery the whole team from the wording as long as the 4 are on it

Their talent 2 is just broken

[scarlet mortar]

what a mf has to do to powercreep saria

[golden pond]

yes, I don't have e1 aoe medic yet (Nightingale lacks LMD)

[peak cloak]

perfumer?

[dark glade]

this is not super friendly anni, even worse if you dont have built aoe/wandering medic

[golden pond]

i thought i change ftail to medic defender

[golden pond]

still level 1

[cunning river]

So how are you supposed to keep your units on white smoke and hit the bosses' shield in EX8?

[cyan gorge]

use fountains

[cunning river]

I have Eyja healer and Goldenglow on those tiles and they're not doing much tbh to deal with the smoke

[dark glade]

Let the boss nuke eyja and gg

So it doesnt spread smoke

If both e2 they can tank fine

[scarlet mortar]

anyone who's on geyser tiles is immune to color changes

[cyan gorge]

There's a spot where you can put Horn on the fountain to barrage right side

alternatively, ops on geyser tiles deal double damage to boss shield (1 hit = 2 sheild hp loss)

so Exu deletes

[cunning river]

Yes, but the smoke makes it so ops just insta die from full health

[cyan gorge]

only if there's a lot

personally I focus the bottles on the blockers and use geysers for boss

[cunning river]

No matter how many bottles I use my blocker are alwasy on pink smoke

[foggy grove]

you can try cynaine suggestion so the aggro on geyser people

[cyan gorge]

You can also try GG s2 (assuming you were using s3) to focus only on the enemies blocked

bait the column attack with frd or with Mlynar on a different part of the map

[cunning river]

This is so annoying

Also I'm seeing that GG just targets whatever

[cyan gorge]

I agree with you for once, EX8 is a bit annoying when you brute force without trying to read mechanics

[dark glade]

on s3?

yea i just use s2 for that stage

[cunning river]

Now onto CM, how do you even stop your operators from instadying?

It doesn't seem possible?

[deep prairie]

If there is a lot of smoke they will die

[cunning river]

Yes, but getting rid of it doesn't seem doable

[strange hazel]

is there a way to 4* clear is2 without relic combos

[deep prairie]

The burn is annoying too cuz if you are not carefull, they oneshot

[deep prairie]

I used 2 frd for that

[strange hazel]

Or leaking phantom

[deep prairie]

Myrtle can tank 2 first( or was it 1) waves of smoke from boss and after this you use frd to bait boss everytime

[cunning river]

That seems like a major pain in the ass

[deep prairie]

Yes

It is

[strange hazel]

I don’t mean literally no relics but no strats that rely on specific drops like ridiculous atkspd buffs or wrath of siracusans

[deep prairie]

Using mlynar is pain

[deep prairie]

Other option is to place gummy on fountain at some point and let her solo tank all boss waves but the moment you deploy something and dont retreat, you have to repeat again

Cardigan works too maybe

other option is to use helidrop to kill p1 of boss asap

Cuz he doesnt spam smoke in p2

[cunning river]

With how it regains the shield that also doesn't really seem possible

[deep prairie]

Map lay out is pain too

[strange hazel]

deepcolor + frd bait is what i usually go for but haven't done ex yet

[deep prairie]

Too many helidrops needed

[dark glade]

you can just bait the boss column attack on fountain so it doesnt spread

[deep prairie]

Of forgot summoners

[cyan gorge]

You have enough time to deploy Myrtle, use her skill, place a medic and a cheap blocker and still have time to place a gravel to bait the first column attack

[strange hazel]

you can use deepcolor earlygame to prevent any purple smoke in the right side of the board above the range of your ranged unit there

[cyan gorge]

that too

doesn't even need e2

[strange hazel]

preferably module

but yeah

[cunning river]

Okay, finally did it

That was a huge pain

[strange hazel]

also wondering abt this

silvergun seems to usually need good relics

[livid delta]

Good start?

[strange hazel]

actually this isn't that true

[quick pecan]

i heard la pluma is BROKEN

[livid delta]

cute too

[dark glade]

why shu restarting but not on his own event

[livid delta]

kroos is like the ultimate vanguard

drop her first and she just solos the entire stage

[void terrace]

Anyone found any dumb stuff with ho'ol ange swirealter

In theory it can shift a weight 5 enemy

[quick pecan]

doesn’t weightless not stack

[void terrace]

Ange isn't a weightless tho I tot

Or is it coded as such

Ho'ol applies the status but ange's wording is different

[void terrace]

Shag

Nevermind

Sed

[latent monolith]

Ange used to be something else but with hool release they just made it a status

[void terrace]

Dammit

Ange back to being sadge

Another dumb thing I'm testing is exu staineless turret

But getting no enemies in exus range is kind of a pain

And she's useless off skill

Any better candidates for stainless turret spam?

I have ling and gavail as my favourites at the moment

[foggy grove]

qb,chetto

[void terrace]

Good points

Chetto hmnnnn

I have

Forgotten what she does

Lemme check

There is also reedic who can brand both turrets

[foggy grove]

she can?

[void terrace]

Yeah

[foggy grove]

oh s3?

[void terrace]

A little bit of dot on the turrets

Yeah

[cyan gorge]

S3 is 3 hit and multi target, great for hitting both an enemy and firing turret essentially extending her range

[void terrace]

Hmm fair enough

Stainless is great with gavail for the same reasons. Just aoe on top of everything else

Ling dragons too

[cyan gorge]

I use any swordmaster with stainless s3 usually

[void terrace]

Hmmm

It fks with Chen's S3 tho T-T

It targets the nearest enemy and it's almost always the turret

I guess removing and redeploing it is always a thing

[cyan gorge]

Cutter and Bibeak s2 are the best for it from my experience using all of them

Irene sometimes too but it would be more like her s3 range decreases

[void terrace]

Hmmmmm

[latent monolith]

I have exalt with stainless s3 and just let exalt do the damage

true aoe + slightly wider range is nice

[void terrace]

Ay same

Was looking for consistent range extension options too like ceobe S2 just being able to hit the turret always

There's also blemi with the turret and juggernaughts

[cyan gorge]

I would do that for Blemi s3 giga healing spam

[void terrace]

Thats something I haven't done in a while

Should try that out

[cyan gorge]

Ngl I use Stainless s2 more than s3 nowadays

[turbid badge]

use stainless s2

[cyan gorge]

yeah I would only use s3 with ops with fast multi target or aoe attacks

[void terrace]

Stainless S2 is fun but feels just

A little squad space consuimg

[cyan gorge]

or if I want to give double damage reduction for memes

[void terrace]

I mean favourite candidate for it is passanger

[cyan gorge]

same

lets me get away with damage mod

[void terrace]

Oh lmao I use it with sp mod and ptilo to just make a tesla coil lmao

[cyan gorge]

I'd get both mods but mod blocks to scarce

[void terrace]

Gosh I haven't even mod 3ed any of the meta units T-T

All my mod 3s are old units that I've tried to make work

Pozy texalt and yalt are all mod 2. Gavails mod 1

My mod 3s are Chen ceobe and the fish squad

And godsenger

[cyan gorge]

The mod3s that matter

• Passenger and Maggie

[void terrace]

Birdknights i see

[cyan gorge]

Chetto modx level 3 is so bad I don't want to use 4 whole blocks but the birb agenda demands it

[turbid badge]

Bro doesnt even have m9

[cyan gorge]

I use May and GT s1 for afk marksman purposes

[turbid badge]

[cyan gorge]

also too many pending birb masteries, Chetto s1 is low priority

[undone moth]

woops thought this was general again

[deft badger]

marksman 🤮

i am for real, only marksman i am going to recognize as good are kroos, kroostar, may, april, platinum 😂

[glass monolith]

Can i just shoot hit for talking bad about archetto?

[deft badger]

feel free to do, i just can't personally see them as good

low stars are ok since cheap to build, 6 star marksman i don't see any reason to build like ever i am just disappointed every time when i see the dmg output

compared to my investment in to them

[spark sinew]

platinum being said as good and then ignoring 6* ones is a crime

[deft badger]

just because of cost and platinum is one of the better low stars isn't she?

[tall cairn]

Eh.

[spark sinew]

you overestimate the cost difference between 5 and 6 i think
compared to power difference

plat is awkward in a lot of situations as well

[deft badger]

i don't bro 5 stars are 370k from lvl1 to e2l1, 6 stars 590k

[dark glade]

why are we talking op cost now

[spark sinew]

e2 1 is a bit loaded benchmark though

[deft badger]

i am ok with paying that 370k but not with 600k and my op breaks down soon as a enemy has more then 900def

[spark sinew]

they're a bit closer if you stop at like e2 40

[tidal sedge]

I'm surprised to see someone penny pinch over 5 days of base lmd

How long have you played the game

[deft badger]

exu nearly made me quit the game i hate marksmen since the beginning lol

she isn't even probably to blame its the people who recommended to me e2 exu first

and i did have at the start surtr thorns exu gnosis eyja spalter

spend days getting her to e2 to be disappointed

[tidal sedge]

If you drop cash for ops then you're realistically not even put back 5 days

Unless you're one of those spenders who don't use originite for farming ig

[deft badger]

i didn't drop anything at the start i was f2p

still the disappointment was big

now as well kroos e1 vs chetto e1, kroos outdps her

[tidal sedge]

You list 7 6*s as a start but expect me to believe you didn't spend

[deft badger]

ammm?

does that acc look like i spend on it

[tidal sedge]

What is this supposed to prove

Should I post the random 6*s I don't raise

[deft badger]

that u are wrong i just wanted to know how u came to the conclusion if someone has couple 6 stars they are spending

[tidal sedge]

You listed way more than a couple 6*s

[deft badger]

i listed 6

surtr, exu, spalter, gnosis, thorns, eyja

[tidal sedge]

Only whales are this out of touch

[deft badger]

u don't know what u are talking about but ok...

[tidal sedge]

Not even the emulator reroll try-hard I knew went for 6 6*s

[sinful tulip]

How did you come to the conclusion that he was spending?

[deft badger]

i did just show u a acc actually that has since day 5, 8 six stars in it which are on banners...

[tidal sedge]

How do you start with 6 6*s. Unless they're being weird with how they define as "start"

[deft badger]

even more then my main did on start

and the only thing i bought on that one is

[quick pecan]

he started with eyjalt mountain iirc

[deft badger]

see one is missing

[quick pecan]

then bought eyja in shop and got schwarz from kernel

it was not all on one day iirc

[tidal sedge]

That's being weird with defining start

[quick pecan]

but yeah i wouldnt define that as a start

you are just playing the game at that point

[deft badger]

but that is the start.. and yeah my main did start with 4 day one 😄

spend 2 weeks rolling new accs

[dark glade]

i like how this turn from marksman shit into whaling talk

[deft badger]

even that 2nd acc i have now i spend rolling since exalter came out and waiting for a stack of six

[quick pecan]

wait this was brought on by exu talk??

[deft badger]

spalter event, gnosis was on standard, don't know who was with spalter i got her from banner and someone else, surtr was in yellow cert shop at the time, eyja and thorns dropped as ofbanner ops

[sinful tulip]

Weird right

[quick pecan]

yet u say krooster is good

krooster dies to def faster than exu

💀

yeah i regret back reading

[tidal sedge]

Their argument was resources spent

As if 5 days of lmd is substantial

[sinful tulip]

IS has resources to grind, and they don't cost lmd... if he was that desperate

Sorry in ment sanity not lmd

[deft badger]

maybe true probably yes u know better then i do, but i am done building marksman at all... 😄

[spark sinew]

yellow cert shop as a new player, enough pulls for 5 units

[quick pecan]

there’s good lower rarity marksmen and the class is honestly pretty bloated (probably because the role was a lot more necessary in the beginning of the game)

but like the 6* is ofc a 6*

[deft badger]

u must consider i did have 2 weeks of rolling new accounts and time to plan my start

[quick pecan]

i mean i don’t need to ask anything

i’ve seen the chat i know it was over the period of at least a week+

[spark sinew]

even if we assume it's just rerolling two weeks for 5 units (kinda hard because you basically pulled on like 3 different banners?) having enough certs for surtr at the start is a bit weird

[deft badger]

i am maybe stupid af, at least when i get in to a game i am not bothered by going over all futures and making a progress plan

[deft badger]

why it works the same like now... u pull u do anni 1-2-3 u can buy it

[sinful tulip]

The only impressive thing I see here is an E2 lvl 30 in (correct me if I'm wrong) 5 days... but I think its do able with IS rewards right?

[deft badger]

and no 2 banner i don't remember who was with spalter on banner, standard banner was gnosis if i am right, SN was running at the time
gnosis banner ended while SN was running and surtr banner came she was in the shop

[tidal sedge]

If you rush annihilations quick enough it does seem feasible. Weird amount of foreknowledge

[dark glade]

you actually can buy it if you clear anni 1-2-3, do free pull from maint, and daily pulls

im actually shocked too

[spark sinew]

if you can clear anni3
is this actually a "start of an account"
but i suppose

[quick pecan]

the answer is no

[spark sinew]

i remember i skipped a week of anni3 when it released

[dark glade]

yeah

newbie also wont get kernel ticket

[spark sinew]

because acc was too shit to clear it

[dark glade]

and kernel is shit banner to pull unless you get eyja in 3

[deft badger]

that was probably at that time, when i came it was use thorns

[dark glade]

now you just use mlynar

its actually a brainrot

[deft badger]

that was me 1 month in to the game with my main.. lol

that one is from 30-11-22

[tall cairn]

[dark glade]

but it said 2022-11-5

[deft badger]

5.11. is when i started, 30.11. when the pic was taken

[spark sinew]

one thing that makes me think it's whaling and not just reading about the game is TR

tr2 as a month old player is such a waste

who even recommended it

[deft badger]

actually w8 what do u mean with tr?

[dark glade]

its hauck

i guess its base

[deft badger]

i think u didn't even have those lvlup pack at that time..

don't even remember, but the mats and lmd xp came from IS
which was easy since i did have surtr and thorns

was constantly grinding IS and just pushing it all in to my ops

cleared SN, UT, farmed IS2

[spark sinew]

it is base, yes

training room

[deft badger]

non did recommend it probably, stopped listening at that point after the EXU recommendation
spend my time in the IS channel and was spamming is day and night

[dark glade]

do ppl still recomend exu in help

i thought thats FB discussion

[deft badger]

don't know

[quick pecan]

i mean that was over a year ago and when she was in newbie banner ig

[deft badger]

yeah bro bot how do u tell someone build exu if that person has thorns and like other s-

[spark sinew]

i mean 6 6* is not a typical start

[tropic valve]

the secret to making your exu good

[spark sinew]

however you spin it

[tropic valve]

if having an answer to high DEF

[glass monolith]

How to tell someone to build Exu: "Wait 6 month for Kroos alter restore". The end

[deft badger]

she literally became useless in all my content after a week

[quick pecan]

well thorns is pretty whatever now

there are other things to prioritize

[deft badger]

i did have more did look at the old screens lol

1 month in the game on the day i was sitting with 5 e2 6 stars and e2 miya

[quick pecan]

that’s literally not a start

[deft badger]

and did have 10 six stars

[quick pecan]

how do u play for a month and say it’s a start

[spark sinew]

check out my amazing account that i start with guys only played for 4 years

[dark glade]

i mean even by help standard its weird that ppl look at that start and say e2 exu 1st

[spark sinew]

exu dunks on the typical early-mid(back then) bosses

like FN

[deft badger]

start was surtr exu thorns weedy saga spalter gnosis mud aperently by screens

[dark glade]

if its year 1 then i can resonate

[quick pecan]

this just feels like blogging at this point

[spark sinew]

i honestly lost the original thread as well

i think we talked about investment into marksmen

and how 5* are fine with which i disagree

[deft badger]

yes.. how we got to the point i don't know

[spark sinew]

like you mention april

she's so horrible without pots and module

[quick pecan]

she wants module

[spark sinew]

especially if you try to use her as normal marksman

[quick pecan]

badly

the first redeploy pot + the atk pot are nice

rest is kinda whatever

but still good

[scarlet mortar]

who tf would use april as a normal marksman

[deft badger]

me probably lol

[dark glade]

im thinking about it at first actually

[scarlet mortar]

she's a terrible early raise bc she can't lane with that S2

[dark glade]

because most anni 3 setup need 2 marksman

and i dont want to raise any other 3* thats not kroos

but they i realize year 3 ops are built diff

[deft badger]

i wouldn't use them anyway today, i would just go with kroos and nothing else when it comes to marksmen probably BP if i would have one, kroostar thats it

[scarlet mortar]

if you really wanted to raise her you're basically coping power strike ig

[quick pecan]

april was my second marksman when i first started

it was definitely powerstrike cope but it was alright to have her cover second marksman role and focus resources elsewhere ig

[deft badger]

i went for chetto as 2nd on that new acc i made, imagine my disappointment when i saw her leaking

[dark glade]

im also dissapointed on cheeto e1

[deft badger]

and kroos is just melting them all down

[dark glade]

idk why her skill has one charge on slv4

her multihit nature doesnt help with high def either

and 0 trust problem too

[deft badger]

don't know but she is 🚮 , she even leaks the smaller drones sometimes

[obtuse sphinx]

You can cheese one side with Shirayuki

[dark glade]

not on e1 lvl 1 i have reason

[spark sinew]

i mean she was compared to 6* marksmen alongside plat and krooster

[deft badger]

not really compared i named those i would invest in and not feel shity for doing

[glass monolith]

(Me who used S1 April at 5-3 because i didn't had underleveled snipers for showcase )

[celest bluff]

I always wonder that did contingency contract ever get play test

Like how HG sure that "yeah people can beat this"

[glass monolith]

I just want to remind you goal of CC is like risk 18 and fuck off, people going for max is their own free will of abuse themselves

[celest bluff]

What about max POO

600 Was so bad that unlimited duration skill will need to be updated to become real unlimited duration

It is bad enough for an update mean they didn't even test the damn thing

[glass monolith]

Or wait for last daily and leak robots and rat and you got your 600

And i did 600 before dailies doing dumb shit including abuse of Silence Alter damage reduction

without robot HP

And 440% ATK Dor

[celest bluff]

How many atk tag the robot can have again

[glass monolith]

Wait, she named her own creations Dor- after herself? What a egoist

[celest bluff]

I haven't play Dorothy vision so I can't say anything
I do clear that annihilation

[glass monolith]

This much.... YES I DIDN'T SCREENSHOT TAG SUMMARY, FUCK ME

[weak gazelle]

not sure about first day 600 points POO (i believe its very clearable) cause i took the liberty for choosing risk at last 3 day of event

avoid any +atk debuff at all cost

[spark sinew]

no

cc beta for example

[spark sinew]

did they even update those

at least en had skalter s2 run out a lot i thought

[weak gazelle]

yeah some cc max risk is impossible
the latest i remember is CC#5
the hammer and sniper Bro

squad size risk when we force to handle 3 lane simultaneously

[livid delta]

struggling with SL-4

[tidal sedge]

Pyrite too

SL-4 is a common roadblock it seems for new accounts

[livid delta]

do I just cycle defenders

[tidal sedge]

I've seen folks pop Cuora skill to soak Big Fellas when smoke turns pink, but it's probably high trust sl7 Cuora

[livid delta]

I'm using vg yato to trigger their skills

[tidal sedge]

That's not enough? That's rough

[livid delta]

[dark glade]

wait not blue women

rat

lin

i use firewhistle

if she get pink farted i insta dead

[livid delta]

maybe I should use s2 la pluma

[dark glade]

and just cycle defender/gravel in front to bait

wait wtf ponc borrow?

[livid delta]

yep

[dark glade]

you can probably la pluma kroos opener to fang

[tidal sedge]

Borrow Poncirus? Is this coping because you couldn't roll her

[livid delta]

no I have her

[dark glade]

and borrow a better defender/arts for left side

[livid delta]

I need the dp and the bulk to survive
I keep trying to use mountain but I only have the survive part

so far as long as I maintain white cloud I can live but I still leak

so I need more dp to cheat out lava

[glass monolith]

Use block 1 characters so BIG FELLAS spawned sheep don't get blocked because if it is blocked it will on death spawn pink smoke on your defender directly and he will get FELLAED

[livid delta]

im using yato already

[dark glade]

the problem is still they tanky asf

[livid delta]

525 pretty solid

[glass monolith]

Problem doesn't exist as long as we look other way

[livid delta]

looking good so far

[dark glade]

we are ponking

[livid delta]

I don't think I can hold

NO

[dark glade]

[livid delta]

okay let's try blaze

[spark sinew]

i assume you already tried kal

or is block 3 a detriment?

[livid delta]

okay they're holding this time

I can finally undeploy right side and move everyone to the left

IS THIS THE RUN

NOOOOO

ok im going to bed goodnight

[dark glade]

o7

[weak gazelle]

o7

[livid delta]

sike

I got it

ok now I can go to sleep

[vivid rain]

Man forgot to pop soda box, more at 8

[livid delta]

I was popping sodas the entire run smartass

this thing leaves pink clouds when it dies

[glass monolith]

That's why you can execute giga brain move of using 1 block operators, so spawn of those BIG FELLAS are not blocked, so they fuck off, so when they die, they die away from your 1 block operator and don't pink them

Because BIG FELLAS spawn those shits on top of your defender so when they die your defender is pink now

[livid delta]

no the screenshots are just showing what happens after my defenders die

yato triggers their ability beforehand

my defenders are dying in white smoke

these are their levels

noir has like 15% trust

[glass monolith]

Oh e0 gaming. Yea

IS THAT E0 1 DEFENDERS?

[deft badger]

wasn't able to do without e2, me

but i know it can be done schwert left like a week ago a video on it with e0

[dark glade]

0 trust gaming

[glass monolith]

12 hours until next dose of sheep

[deft badger]

and i forgot again that its at 00am and not 6pm 😄

[glass monolith]

Grabbed shop Asbestos for collection

[spiral stream]

@deft badger these 2 items are my problem now

[mint valley]

event shop for gel

[dark glade]

Gel from event shop

[mint valley]

also sl-8 drops ore

[dark glade]

manual sl-8 for manganese just clear 3-2

[polar crane]

/material in #bot-spam

[spiral stream]

Why do I always ask before checking

[polar crane]

[spiral stream]

Yeah like how many runs gonna be for a single one my rng luck sucks

[dark glade]

Like... 24

Oh on 3-2?

Yea probably 24 too

I dont think any other stage sell it too

Wait it need 11 that sucks

[whole jolt]

can anyone tell me how to clear anni20 with these?

i wanna afk if possible

[dark glade]

dont think afk possible

no ele medic

no chong/skalter

[whole jolt]

can use supporter

[dark glade]

and fedex is not good this anni

oh there is honey im too tunnelvision to eyja

[whole jolt]

not fully, a bit is ok

[whole jolt]

i skipped eyja for spark ;-;

[glass monolith]

Well honey is not Eyjaberry so boss skill to proc fire on any target because lmao it does 1000 elemental damage out of 1000 still there

[dark glade]

i dont think afk possible still, but as usual you can borrow mlynar to clear

[whole jolt]

can chungyue do it?

i lazy to active skill ;-;

[dark glade]

probably

all chong i saw is paired with skalter tho

[whole jolt]

breh

[deft badger]

bru are u guys ever watching when i am posting something 😄

probably not

[deft badger]

chong solos it

pretty much, not really but close

i brought thorns and chong out of fun just to see how far its going to go and they cleared it

[vocal leaf]

i went even harder and used horn+thorns it was overkill, chong only for bottom lane

[whole jolt]

i somehow failed lol

the boss killed me

[deft badger]

throns in the corner so that he can hit left side and bot

[whole jolt]

idh thorns

[deft badger]

chong in the middle same to hit left side and bot

[vocal leaf]

yato should be able to kill her

[deft badger]

and u need just one healer anyway eyja can do it solo

[whole jolt]

nope

[vocal leaf]

you can use gravel to hold for a while, and you also have surtr

[deft badger]

https://youtu.be/cUcJM4gPWuc?t=1120

[whole jolt]

i do

[vocal leaf]

she’s, i used her for that

[cyan gorge]

Yato x5 obliterates Eblana

[whole jolt]

can explain the boss' mechanic?

[deft badger]

u don't care since yato still hits her even in cc

on s2

just put her in to her face

[whole jolt]

is this gladia?

[deft badger]

and i did send the video on the timestamp where i drop texas and yato on her

[whole jolt]

ok

[deft badger]

yes she is chilling xD

[whole jolt]

idh texasalter tho

[deft badger]

taking shots and being useless

u don't need her

just drop yato s2 on her

[whole jolt]

ok

[deft badger]

and even if she gets to chong he is going to 2 hit her

[whole jolt]

i also dh thorns 💀

[deft badger]

2 charged atks she dead

since u have yato if u place them like i did, kill the casters inc from left early u can prevent top from being on fire till 370

[cyan gorge]

My idea might be more up your alley

[deft badger]

then the boss lights it all up but doesn't matter then anymore u can just push the last 30

[whole jolt]

💀

[cyan gorge]

Lin completely unnecessary

[whole jolt]

bro idh skalter

[cyan gorge]

Don’t need

[deft badger]

the only thing i see as a problem on ur first run is that u have them all to low

[whole jolt]

@deft badger what level is ur lumen?

[cyan gorge]

But without her, Exalter might struggle

[deft badger]

they are all burning, on my run just hoshi was on fire till 370

then thorns and hoshi which lumen did heal solo btw

and u have eyja on top of that

• lumen

60 m3

but eyja heals that solo

[whole jolt]

e2?

[deft badger]

on s1

[whole jolt]

oh

[deft badger]

yes

e2s3m3

[whole jolt]

💀idh

[deft badger]

just move them up so that only the tank infront of chong burns

and yato the casters inc from left

[whole jolt]

but idh thorns

[deft badger]

how do u mean u dont have thorns

i saw thorns on the pic 😄

[whole jolt]

😭

[cyan gorge]

Use Lapp or Firewhistle instead

[deft badger]

ahh nvm its not urs lol

[whole jolt]

no

[deft badger]

well u can add more ops

my team was trimmed

i wanted only thorns and chong to do dmg

[vocal leaf]

were you watching my team?

[deft badger]

u can add

[whole jolt]

k

[deft badger]

chong does 80% of the map

just add like 2 dds and that's it

maybe eyja s2 next to eyja for the car

[whole jolt]

idh eyja alter bruh

[deft badger]

omg xD

w8 i have to go to ur pic

[whole jolt]

here

[dark glade]

he meant eyja normal btw

[nova basin]

h12-3 am i supposed to space out my operators or does that not matter

[deft badger]

this is u

hahaha

[nova basin]

my e2l90 skalter keeps dying on 1 hit even with eyja talent

[cyan gorge]

Place them diagonally so they don’t get double splashed

[nova basin]

ah, so the spacing does matter

she was sandwiched between 3 ops

[cyan gorge]

Yeah she super dead

[nova basin]

ill try again 🫡

[dark glade]

🫡

be strong

12-4 is next

[nova basin]

not very excited for h12-4

[deft badger]

would do it like this

yellow chong, blach hoishi, red silence, blue eyja s2

[cyan gorge]

It’s not bad if you have Saria + Mlynar

[whole jolt]

no need ele healer?

i have honey

[deft badger]

left next to chong i would place surtr s2 and watch that place in case something would leak it bugs me that u don't have defenders

u can bring her but only hoshi is really taking dmg

[whole jolt]

i dont think surtr can

she only have 1 block

cant hold the left side

[deft badger]

place gummy over her head

[whole jolt]

i tried with 5 blocks still leaked last round

[deft badger]

they die the moment they step infront of her did u try with chong?

[whole jolt]

ye

[deft badger]

chong s3m3?

[whole jolt]

check busy holding right side

[whole jolt]

yeah

[deft badger]

where was he focusing at that moment?

[whole jolt]

not sure

[deft badger]

face him left side not down so that his prio is left

[whole jolt]

enemies overflowing

[deft badger]

then he will hit first left if there is something to kill then do bot

[whole jolt]

so uh do i need honey?

[deft badger]

u can bring her probably will ahve to place her at 370

[whole jolt]

ok?

[deft badger]

till then there isn't really dmg i just don't know what u plan on doing about the archers

if u can menage to yato them

[whole jolt]

yato

[deft badger]

normal eyja s2

[whole jolt]

i dont think i need to yato them tbh

[deft badger]

let her take out the cars so that chong can focus on other stuff

[vocal leaf]

why don’t you bring lapp and eyja?

[whole jolt]

i just have to deploy hoshi s2 last and they will target hoshi

[nova basin]

mlynar,,,

[whole jolt]

brought

[deft badger]

u can try don't know they will aoe hit eyja and chong

and silence if u do that

[whole jolt]

aoe...

tf

my setup

[deft badger]

don;t know really i just saw when they shoot my gladiia my liskarm took some dmg as well

yes and watch eyja

u might have to use silence skill for her

when the casters come closer

[whole jolt]

where to deploy silence..

[deft badger]

normally here...

[whole jolt]

tf is there

oh

honey

[deft badger]

a place that doesn't burn 😄

[whole jolt]

i use honey instead

[deft badger]

use just them

[whole jolt]

i think she can do it

[deft badger]

silence next to eyja

[whole jolt]

no honey

?

[deft badger]

breeze corner top

u will be fine

[whole jolt]

ok

i hope the burn dmg dont kill me

[vocal leaf]

you could deploy eyja and silence there too, they shouldn’t die

[nova basin]

chongyue carry

[whole jolt]

the snipers?

[vocal leaf]

the sniper target the last deployed unit iirc

that’s why i used penance in my run

[whole jolt]

they do aoe ;-;

[vocal leaf]

they always attack her and die really quick

[whole jolt]

oops eyja died in 182

[vocal leaf]

your last deploy should be your strongest defender

[vocal leaf]

why?

[whole jolt]

snipers target hoshi

aoe killed eyja

my god eyja died again

[vocal leaf]

use those tiles, their biggest threat will be the casters but between honey and silence they shouldn’t die

[whole jolt]

tried

casters killed honey

[vocal leaf]

how? they shouldn’t even reach honey

[whole jolt]

they reached somehow

i'm at 300 rn

kinda struggle but still managable with silence's drone+yalter

oops

fucked

[vocal leaf]

ignoring everyone else, you could try eyja where is gg facing down and silence where is lumen

[whole jolt]

i'm cooking

chaos

killed the boss with surtr

[dark glade]

you alr leaked 4

[whole jolt]

yea...

fucked up infront

[foggy grove]

force close the app

[whole jolt]

everything is dying onfg

oh cleared

[vocal leaf]

chong so overwhelmed, doesn’t know who to attack

[whole jolt]

with 7 leaks 💀

[whole jolt]

fr

i used yalter to support

kinda worked

[foggy grove]

why clear when you are leaking

[whole jolt]

for fun

nah

i wanna know what will happen next

so i can fully clear it next run

i'll try again tmr lol

[vernal lion]

[deft badger]

eyja died to casters

then u didn't have enough dmg to kill the cars

u didn't use yato to lower the pressure

2nd car

u are leaking all over the place then 😄

[whole jolt]

yato used for boss

hmm

or maybe not

idk whats going on tbh

chaos

[deft badger]

told u keep a eye on eyja, casters are melting her before they crash in to hoshi or chong kills them

[whole jolt]

i lazy 🤣

i will next time

[deft badger]

would probably advice to bring gravel to aggro them

[ivory nimbus]

Ceobe's S2 is absolute insanity. I have never seen a boss's health bar go down that fast in my account's life.

[glass monolith]

Extra damage from enemy DEF slaps at times

I remember one stage had CM condition like elite enemy gains +100% DEF and Ceobe were 3 hitting it

[ornate siren]

any thoughts on this semi AFK

EX-8

[dark glade]

SL? sure i can see it winning, but deploying texas 100 times is not semi afk either

[ornate siren]

shes only there to break bottles when dolly is on left side

and maybe bait the black cloud thing

i put alot of backups here, otherwise im putting less

[dark glade]

since ur borrowing anyway why dont put more backup

[latent monolith]

I just got to EX 7, I can see why people complain about the opening

[foggy sparrow]

most underrated operator by a long shot tbh

she carried me so hard in the higher risk pinchouts

[spark sinew]

semi afk

has gravel

bag is always useful if you have spare slots
then you can put texas just in case

[latent monolith]

How significant is the top lane in EX 7

Can I just drop mud S2 on it or does it need babysitting

[spark sinew]

it probably needs babysitting

exalter needed skill timings/gg to help

or else he gets like two shotted

[vernal lion]

pusher behind the aoe melee

[spark sinew]

shields won't save mud from two big men

[vernal lion]

you just have issue with the pink cloud, the mob itself is just meh

[dark glade]

agent would also be fine

[glass monolith]

Big Fellas are chill, small ones are baa-lshit

[vernal lion]

remember that the pink cloud dmg is applied first before the burst from tornado sheep

[latent monolith]

Oh that explains stuff

pink clouds are so op

[glass monolith]

Roberta E2 give 2 stacks

[delicate blaze]

Is this okay for early stages/starters

[foggy sparrow]

getting sick of all these unblockable/floating bosses ngl

makes every melee archetype feel really shit

[cosmic thicket]

Lords:

[foggy sparrow]

ok those are the exception

hookmasters too

everyone else suffers though

[foggy grove]

i mean you are not doing any real dmg when the boss floating anyhow

[foggy sparrow]

tf

[vernal lion]

good enough

[foggy sparrow]

how does that counter anything I said

it sounds like your agreeing with me that their annoying

[vernal lion]

boss is 75% dr when floating, so you basically can't do any dmg unless it's true dmg

[foggy grove]

?
the last boss that melee can't do anything about is liek ic boss?

i maimed dolly with exalter

[vernal lion]

yea, IC boss is cringe

car didn't do anything to flying enemy

[foggy sparrow]

I was talking bout them in general

honestly this boss is pretty easy

just spam bottles when their near your guys

[vernal lion]

but you have cola, so that is just not a good complaint

[dark glade]

There are.... 1 actual flying boss?

[foggy sparrow]

idk what your saying

[vernal lion]

you said that melee in this event is shit, but you have cola to fuck them up

because it's just yin/yang gaming

[foggy sparrow]

true I guess. but I wasn't talking about the event specifically. just that I've noticed a trend of HG making their bosses floaters or unblockable

[vernal lion]

I mean even they are floated or not, if you don't follow the mechanism you will get punished

we will have 2 more bosses with nuke ability so, be prepared tho

[foggy sparrow]

true actually. I wasn't able to beat lone trails because the bosses mechanic was too hard to deal with and gave them too much DR

[weak gazelle]

well game adapting and evolving
if they didnt do that players will leave

[foggy sparrow]

dolly's REALLY easy in comparison. you just have to time your stuff for when they drop

[foggy sparrow]

yeah but I think the excessive floaters and unblockables undermine melee classes. like you don't even need defenders for most content nowadays.

but maybe that's just because of the powercreep of other classes

[weak gazelle]

hmm?
its not, uncle horse just do fine here and there for the boss you mentioned

[drowsy jewel]

did you read the mechanics of LT?

it was pretty fine with just handling balls well

[foggy sparrow]

I already said lords and other air-targetting melees work fine.

[weak gazelle]

so whats the problem?

[spark sinew]

lone trail had very straightforward gimmick, especially in phase 2

[foggy sparrow]

yeah she locks the balls causing them to deal aoe arts dmg and gets DR for each one. and you have to destroy them to get rid of it.

[spark sinew]

i wonder what's the problem was

[foggy sparrow]

the adds were fking crazy in that stage though

[dark glade]

Too many balls for him to put in his jaw

Sorry that song just keep playing

[cosmic thicket]

not control's balls 💀

[drowsy jewel]

she has several of them

[spark sinew]

are you talking ex stages then

[foggy sparrow]

oh yeah

[spark sinew]

because the stage has gimmick in red letters? i think

[foggy sparrow]

normal stages are easy

[spark sinew]

about the weight difference

[foggy sparrow]

that defenders and non-air targetting melees are becoming useless against bosses

I've found that gladiias S3 works against every boss though. so she can stall them pretty well

[spark sinew]

there are...two air bosses in the entire game i think, including sssok, 3 if you count midboss in is2

dolly is not even air

[dark glade]

What are those 3?

I only know 1

[foggy sparrow]

???

[drowsy jewel]

i feel like this is such a non issue though

[spark sinew]

kevin from is2
minimalist
that guy in raythean sss

[foggy sparrow]

they have low altitude hovering

[weak gazelle]

exactly like hauckindu said

[foggy sparrow]

thats basically the same thing

[spark sinew]

they have insane dr when in "air"

[dark glade]

Kevin is grounded on spawn
Minimalist is melee on p2 so i dont count them

[spark sinew]

like if you wanted to damage them while they would have that dr, you would do shit damage

[weak gazelle]

hovering type enemies have huge weakness

[spark sinew]

ok kevin is out

[weak gazelle]

that is when they grounded

[spark sinew]

i mean technically sss has another drone boss

but it's not on en

[dark glade]

Oh yea the new desert one

[spark sinew]

and again, sss ew

[dark glade]

Ew

[spark sinew]

so dolly hovering doesn't really "nerf" melee dps

[weak gazelle]

how to grounded them?
two ways, CC or spesific gimmick

[spark sinew]

since you only really damage him when he has fallen

the inability to block is fair, but otherwise HG would just make him do 10k damage on hit or do like BS event does

and in the end you still wouldn't be able to block him anyway

[foggy sparrow]

that's so lame

if every boss is designed like that then they just become glorified DPS checks

[spark sinew]

stalling a boss forever is also just...boring strat that would work on every boss (if you could)

[weak gazelle]

hitting them hard/brute force it while they in 'hovering mode' is a bad move in the first place no matter who the enemy are

[spark sinew]

so i understand why HG doesn't want to do it

[dark glade]

So you want all boss to be just patriot?

[foggy sparrow]

when you have no stuns sometimes you don't have a choice.

[spark sinew]

just look at Kristen phase 2

damn pushover

[weak gazelle]

[spark sinew]

stalled forever by solo healing defender on ex8 cm

[foggy sparrow]

I agree but letting every boss mow through your defenses or just ignore them makes defensive units worthless

[foggy sparrow]

unironically yes

ATLEAST let me block them

[cosmic thicket]

what

patriot is an example of a boss you don't want to block

4*2100 moment

[weak gazelle]

well you see... newer defender hit really hard
that how game change or adapting

[foggy sparrow]

yeah but it's not impossible. I was able to block him with mudrock for most of his first stage.

[cosmic thicket]

that doesn't sound right

[glass monolith]

Boss with literally chainsaw: Single hit damage which you can survive
Some random Dad with spear: 4 combo hit erasing your family tree on hit

[cosmic thicket]

unless you're already doing like 10k DPS with kal surtr texalter etc then sure because his phase 1 lasts like 3 seconds

[spark sinew]

his phase 2 is also anti stall

[cosmic thicket]

but there's no way mudrock holds patriot for more than 10 seconds by herself

[spark sinew]

cause yk, spear throw being added to the list of skills
it's easier to kill

[weak gazelle]

i understand your concern
but the only word i can say is accept the change wether you like it or not

[foggy sparrow]

I will literally check the auto deploy rn

[glass monolith]

10 second hold? Partiot autos every 4 seconds

[spark sinew]

~~mud s3 is 10 seconds i believe ~~

sounds legit

[foggy sparrow]

I misremembered things

it was gavialter who tanked him during phase 2 and he died in like 3 seconds

ok my point is that he can be blocked

and that making bosses that can't turns them into DPS checks

[vital arrow]

andoain

[spark sinew]

he's basically a dps check regardless though

especially on release

what would you block him with

[vital arrow]

patriot phase 2 being tankable is common knowledge

phase 1 was like

specter

or eunectes s3

[scarlet mortar]

eun + blem my beloved

[foggy sparrow]

hoshi + shining S3 might work

those two aswell

[spark sinew]

i think unblockable enemies are actually nicer

[tepid sigil]

Even with specter, it is a DPS check for 15 sec

[spark sinew]

if it's like dolly

their normal attack now doesn't oneshot non defenders

[vital arrow]

I mean people dont actually block patriot on phase 1

[foggy sparrow]

honestly I'm thinking of seeing if I can permanently stall patriot using only year 1 units now

[spark sinew]

because HG knows you can't/won't block

[vital arrow]

thats just asking to die

phase 2?

patriot can be stalled with cuora+*3 medics

[spark sinew]

you probably can just frd cycle

[vital arrow]

phase 1 cant be stalled