strategy

[dark glade]

Is cliff uptime good?

[spark sinew]

hmmm
it's like 25-30? i think

[dark glade]

Gnosis can be placed on fountain i just like it more

the only time i use cliff is on barrenland and i regret it

[spark sinew]

nvm, better

i got baited into raising her for cc12

well she was e2 1 before but still

[scarlet mortar]

E1 flametail and use S2

[dark glade]

terrible uptime

[scarlet mortar]

tbh she could just stun like half the flying sheep and it'd be a w

[spark sinew]

constant 40 sp cost

[scarlet mortar]

orchid + ranged dps the stragglers or sth

[spark sinew]

i didn't know she had it that bad

but i also never use s2 flame

[scarlet mortar]

never E2'd her

[lyric ginkgo]

So should I be trying e1 more of my units then? And maybe add Orchid into the mix?

[scarlet mortar]

nor used her but that's a different thing

[dark glade]

I mean its texas reincarnation what do you expect

[vernal lion]

borrow an E1 Krooster

she helps to solve that map easily

[scarlet mortar]

tldr just borrow anyone with ranged stun/freeze

kroos2 is one of the more popular options

[vernal lion]

but remember to make the tile she on become white color

[dark glade]

Or e1 your flametail and chalter, get some trust and try again later

Maybe add orchid/rangers to the mix too

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWGLPpmZDeU&ab_channel=pard파드

pard right now is streaming new account beating SL

[dark glade]

~~also we just infodump alot i hope he is ok ~~

[wide sail]

i thpought this is just new account and not e0 lvl1

[vernal lion]

yea I think it's new account beat SL more

[dark glade]

It is just new account

Sl-4 big fellas hit hard tho 💪

[wide sail]

i saw ch1 gameplay earlier didnt realise this is event speedrun

[dark glade]

Sl-8 will be even worse

[spark sinew]

spoiler: they're never ok

[lyric ginkgo]

Alright so getting to e1/2 is important for the abilities to make the difference

[dark glade]

he survived and learn a lesson

[royal rose]

I finally beat Mama John’s Plate on Emergency

That was really hard

Now I gotta figure out a comp for the other one with the poison mist and stuff

[lyric ginkgo]

Yeah I try to read stuff online but sometimes it's 2-4 years old so the recommendations are all over the place.

[royal rose]

Thanks to whoever recommended Mlynar main/GG off, you’re the boss

[lyric ginkgo]

Not only that the base stuff is also recommended to start early as well. But like I only got so much sanity so I'm to figure out what to push

[dark glade]

Poison mist is easy

Just dont blunder and bring 0 medic

or clearing it with aegirian osciloscope

[vernal lion]

because for newbie, if you want to stick along with this game you have to learn the most basic things about this game

especially when you are not a whale player, since everything just keeps going up and up

lots of ops to collect, lots of mats to store, and play the game like you're doing your chores

[spark sinew]

just don't ever level office and reception room in base

[lyric ginkgo]

Yeah. I've farming the event SL-1 to get all the LMD

[spark sinew]

until you understand the ramifications (wouldn't bother too much with trying to wrap your head around it for now)

[scarlet mortar]

the best way to play the game is to fuck around and acquaint yourself with the consequences

(me throughout year 1)

[spark sinew]

enjoy your bricked base

[scarlet mortar]

it's 243

[spark sinew]

competing against 4 year old accs

yes, bricked base

not sure why you would repeat my words

[dark glade]

Why am i getting so much from 351 base

This thing is stupid

I dont even e1 frostleaf

[scarlet mortar]

oh no the actual base slave is here

[dark glade]

hauck light me the way to this base

sock too

[scarlet mortar]

imagine being gaslit into productivity

couldn't be me

[dark glade]

Like its actually easy to build

For new acc that is

My main is 252 gaslighted by peter

[spark sinew]

for actual new players anything bigger than 2 power plants is just griefing imo

i mean you can spend more to produce way less (especially since you don't have workers) but why

[lyric ginkgo]

I'm doing 252 for now

[dark glade]

Good

[scarlet mortar]

just stick to 252 unless you hate how it looks

[dark glade]

Dont forget to visit riic for daily base gaslight

[west kraken]

Qn: Is Saileach actually a good shoperator or naw

Bc honestly vanguard taking 1x unit deployment slot is typically removed midway once you have enough dp

[scarlet mortar]

vg
flag
no on the double, unless you're stacked and are missing her for sth specific

her S3 sees use for high end if that's what you're into

[west kraken]

Like I do already have Ines which kinda does a better job? Idk

[dark glade]

She is indeed

[spark sinew]

she's actually good as far as flags go, since she won't just take slot later although you could argue you can just deploy better unit

[scarlet mortar]

sail's well in the territory of "only get her if you know what you're doing"

[dark glade]

Im also confused since most of pyrolisis use sail instead of ely

maybe just because i see the high risk one instead of guide one tbh

[scarlet mortar]

probs for the DP talent?

[dark glade]

[scarlet mortar]

not sure anw, i haven't looked into pyrolysis too much

she also gives aspd

[dark glade]

Same i only look at a few

Also everyone is too spread for the aspd to matter

[spark sinew]

how long do we have for her to remain in shop

[dark glade]

Like ceobe job is just hitting afk car smh

[spark sinew]

shu base skill reveal soon

sail probably getting kicked, or maybe it's amiya

[dark glade]

now this is the real base slave

[scarlet mortar]

it's worldly plight

[spark sinew]

it would be INSANE if it was wordly plight

[scarlet mortar]

base slaves rejoice

[dark glade]

Im more interested in party sp talent

[spark sinew]

you maybe can do jieyun + waiifu

and cut ros

[dark glade]

But as broken it is it will be just like IS soda

[spark sinew]

i hope her module reduces sui req

I'm really not a fan

yeah we know the numbers already

[dark glade]

Sus

[scarlet mortar]

1 SP/4s

[dark glade]

Isit on stream?

[scarlet mortar]

according to stream vod

[dark glade]

Oh it is

[scarlet mortar]

just eyeball it

[spark sinew]

4 suis, 1sp/4sec
12 suis, 12%atk

[dark glade]

Oh you mean the stage showcase

[dark glade]

I have 0 sui anyway why do i care

[spark sinew]

maybe you like shu i can't tell at this point

[dark glade]

I will like shu if i get her from free pull

So far i like the musha more

also rip all musha

[ashen pewter]

so i just finished H11-4 (I just realized i forgot to clear them before) and usually the non-boss lane there is held by 2-3 units (based on guides on yt) but i just finished it with Exalter Solo. I'm still amazed. well with help of Skalter summon when his skill is not up.

[royal rose]

Where’s the new limited unit’s kit?

[spark sinew]

expected as much

[royal rose]

Is she looking Dusk-tier?

[spark sinew]

lol

[royal rose]

Or even worse?

[scarlet mortar]

dusk-tier

ok if by that you mean she doesn't do damage poor dusk, she's a guardian

[royal rose]

Nah, just that she kinda doesn’t do anything particularly well

[scarlet mortar]

but her buffs are mildly stupid so

[spark sinew]

depending on the mod she might take dusk out of retirement

[royal rose]

Oh

I see

[foggy grove]

P2w talent smh

[royal rose]

Damn, I only got Chungus and Dusk

[scarlet mortar]

also her S3 is funky

[foggy grove]

[royal rose]

Got to save 300 rolls

[scarlet mortar]

someone link the showcase

Skill 3 M3 - Grow Ever Prosperous
Auto Recovery | Manual Activation | Unknown SP | 20s Duration
Saria S2 range
+50% ATK, +Healing Range.
Whenever Shu attacks an enemy or would attack but can't find an enemy, she also heals an ally in healing range.
While a ground enemy is in a Sow tile, allies in healing range gain +15% ATK and +ASPD.
Whenever a ground enemy enters a Sow tile, teleport them back to that tile once they are a certain distance away from that tile.

[spark sinew]

I'm a bit iffy on teleport stuff

but other parts are great anyway, so who cares

[scarlet mortar]

i think it's just silly

defenderknights now have yet another way to stall a pesky enemy

[spark sinew]

she also probably has modern sp costs

[scarlet mortar]

[spark sinew]

bassline is dead on arrival for me

[scarlet mortar]

btw only recently learned that ptilo's aura (or SP auras in general) are modified by reduced SP gen

[spark sinew]

yeah i heard that
never really tested it with like, eunectes

[scarlet mortar]

i had to check the mechanics sheet again to make sure this wasn't just jank

[turbid badge]

[spark sinew]

no modded eunectes, no problem

[scarlet mortar]

so skill auras don't help in CCB ig

just stood out to me when LD server brought up how shu can bypass this

[surreal star]

shouldn’t her ally buff be 25% atk and not 15

[scarlet mortar]

those were preliminary numbers, might be wrong

only the SP rate and talent atk buff were confirmed i think

[surreal star]

this is what i have

[glass monolith]

Whale squad before - Full AH
Whale squad now - Full AH and Sui

(Skadi, Specter Normal, Chongus for 3 of same class)

[latent monolith]

Watch as the final sui op is released
"when 10 sui in squad, all sui get +100% atk +100 aspd +200% max hp +300% def +5% HP regen per second, this applies to all summons, all sui attacks can also target air"

[tall raptor]

tips for R8-8?

[latent monolith]

Get someone like horn who can snipe the top lane

and just like spam gravel to tank and stall them

If you aren't going for the secret ending it's much easier, and just taking horn would solve it

[tall raptor]

I have horn

[latent monolith]

Well you can use her then, any of her three skills work, just point her so that she hits the region in front of the top lane shieldguards

This can either be bottom lane pointing up or iirc top left pointing right

[surreal star]

getting a good tank for the throwers is nice too

[foggy grove]

Isn't r8 8 drone

[latent monolith]

Oh wait

I was thinking of M8-6

how very EN of me

[spark sinew]

spalter gladiia + texas/yato seems better

[tall raptor]

then what do I do?

[surreal star]

for drone stage yato/texas carry

goldenglow is good too

[latent monolith]

nvm what I said
Goldenglow and texas alter help a lot here
Remember to be patient with the killing, and bring frds and melee bait to clear roadblocks and help kill safer

Yato alter S3 works too

You can also use like SA/mlynar on some parts

[surreal star]

schwarz fartooth pozy are solid drone killers if you have them built

ash can probably kill a drone in one s2 cycle

[scarlet mortar]

they don't have the lanes iirc

poz has the typewriter and schwarz has the power to camp the bot right drone, but the dangerous ones at mid are hard to access for fartooth

[surreal star]

yeah

the snipers don't handle mid drones super well

[scarlet mortar]

guides would just use SA

lords in general dispatch the drones well

[latent monolith]

Well a lot of the guides were made when the stage came out

[tall raptor]

and melee bait ideas?

[scarlet mortar]

oh gg

free win

[latent monolith]

Any defender works fine

gravel can help too

[spark sinew]

surtr s1
i mean you can just go gravel or even kal summon

[scarlet mortar]

you can't bait the drones away from talulah

[surreal star]

isn't that surtr s2

[scarlet mortar]

she has taunt against them iirc

[surreal star]

not that it's much better

[spark sinew]

might be i'm honestly not an expert

[surreal star]

you can just do gg+yato spam on everything

[scarlet mortar]

mlynar or penance taunts are needed if it's tanking for talulah particularly

[surreal star]

phantom can deal with the random ground enemies

[scarlet mortar]

but yh just gg all over the stage

[spark sinew]

eyja also worked great on the right side from what i remember, but it's been awhile

[dark glade]

The struggle of day 1 player back then

[surreal star]

gg yato make the stage really chill

you honestly don’t need bait since everything is frd/global range

[steady swan]

How do I brute force S-8 🙏

[spark sinew]

the closest thing we get for an event is just using bottles and nuking the boss

unless you want to kill the bos through the DR

which is...

[glass monolith]

Or skip "Bottles" part and Kroos alter that shit down

[spark sinew]

basically the same as bottles

[glass monolith]

Bottle don't kokodayo at me

[steady swan]

Who's kroos alter bro

SO I lend a Kroos alter

And nuke him?

[spark sinew]

yeah that's the good part

[steady swan]

Had no idea krros had an alter

[glass monolith]

Free sniper from 1.5 years ago event, Exu for poor people

[steady swan]

Free?

Was she a welfare?

Thats crazy

[steady swan]

So I can just lend an exu and call it a day?

[glass monolith]

Well do you have E2 in squad?

[steady swan]

yes

I got something called skill issue

that's why I cant pass it

[glass monolith]

ATK buffers to make sure you outgun 800 DEF of boss?

or you know Shamare

[steady swan]

which ops are known atk buffers

[glass monolith]

When shit don't work just Shamare

[spark sinew]

the premise of "brute force" doesn't lend well to this event

[steady swan]

I dont think I got her 😭

[spark sinew]

you really need to interact with mechanics

unless your team is really good

which it likely isn't if you can't kill sl8
let's start with the team that you use for sl8 right now

[celest bluff]

Exu lv90 s3m3 here

[spark sinew]

||p6? ||

[glass monolith]

I have good team, i still interacted with mechanic because i am not paid for doing 75% damage reduction

[steady swan]

Can you gimme your code pls I share clues

[celest bluff]

Kapisi#4646

Hypergryph give it back

[spark sinew]

exu is actually a bad borrow without support

[steady swan]

Done

[spark sinew]

just borrow uncle

[celest bluff]

The new CC have shit ass soundtrack

Wait how come you didn't have Exu

You're lv71

And Exu is like ancient

[steady swan]

😭

why you gotta call me out like that

[glass monolith]

They gave on CN.
Invisible chapter 12 "drone". Fuck them

[celest bluff]

Didn't touch sl-ex-8 because I was ultra lazy

[celest bluff]

The soundtrack better be good

Wait the suicide beyblade?

[glass monolith]

Summoner of suicide beyblades

[celest bluff]

How tf

[glass monolith]

And suicide beyblades can leak to do damage

[celest bluff]

Did they expect us to use silverash talent

[glass monolith]

Or Ines. Or die

[scarlet mortar]

ines dub

[celest bluff]

Very funny devs, very funny

[scarlet mortar]

SA was still rotated out for max achieved iirc

[celest bluff]

So what the new CC will be called

[glass monolith]

CC1

[scarlet mortar]

CCB1 is pyrolysis

[celest bluff]

Better not POO ui

[scarlet mortar]

aware

[celest bluff]

And better not 6 hours stall gaming

[scarlet mortar]

the main map isn't a logistical nightmare to look at at least

[glass monolith]

It is POO ui

[celest bluff]

POO was so poo that I skipped the event entirely

[glass monolith]

I wanted to do robot stall. Realized can't do stall because defender/medics suck. Did 440% ATK Dorothy. Silence Alter OP AF. The end

[scarlet mortar]

defenders/medic suck
ain't no way

mudrock holds one for free

skalter + highmore holds the second one

you took an atk up tag didn't you

[glass monolith]

I didn't had morbius skalter

But i had Silence Alter, AH squad, and Autism

[scarlet mortar]

the mechs hit like wet noodles as long as you don't give them any atk

[glass monolith]

It is still like 1000 ATK in melee wet noodle with +100% attack speed

I suck at cooking

[quick pecan]

pinch out dp down risks were basically free if you had an agent

the stationary gundams were a mistake lmfaoo

[scarlet mortar]

just don't take aspd

[quick pecan]

don’t even think the flag needs bag either

[scarlet mortar]

600 is achievable even after dodging all that

(i would know, that's the only way enemy got 600)

[quick pecan]

pinch out honestly felt more like a healing check until burst skills up

than anything else

when you go for like 600+

[spark sinew]

i think d1 600 was either stall or buffed doro

and minus did d1 600 🛌

inb4 i misremember

[scarlet mortar]

just don't do 600 in phase 1

[quick pecan]

maybe i just felt like dorothy + gundams hit hard when i’m waiting for ptilo to be deployed and have s2 up

[scarlet mortar]

[spark sinew]

i mean personally i just used my tanks

went fine

[quick pecan]

mlynar taunt 😩

[spark sinew]

mlynar is a tank

clearly

[scarlet mortar]

skalter survives solo with the special mech tag

so lmao

[quick pecan]

maybe it was where i deployed him ig

[glass monolith]

If only there was character increasing surviveability of "I decided i want to die" characters

[quick pecan]

just always felt like i was racing to heal him before he got the chance to murder

obv things fine when his skill up

[spark sinew]

that's a weird ptil

[quick pecan]

both owl

surely that’s ptilo

[glass monolith]

Lag Owl and Blind Owl

[scarlet mortar]

wrong rhine employee

[celest bluff]

Why it called lag owl

And blind owl

[quick pecan]

did you take dorothy tags

[glass monolith]

Well they not called that way, but Ptilo basically is experiment on installing Windows Vista into human brain went wrong, and well, Silence has glasses

[spark sinew]

he did not

mly barely tanks with ptilo on skill + skalter

[scarlet mortar]

only her special tag and all the hp up ones

[spark sinew]

even if you pick smart tags

[quick pecan]

honestly it’s been so long i forgot all the tags i picked

[scarlet mortar]

still have them saved

[spark sinew]

dos is just like a regular "event" right

you can't choose buffs

[quick pecan]

shitty rewards

[celest bluff]

Shitty ui

[glass monolith]

#strategy message

[celest bluff]

Okay it is usable but it doesn't stick with me

Do I need specter alt for fish squad

[ashen pewter]

are there any good use of building saileach if you got myrlte and elysium built both max pot?

[scarlet mortar]

not unless you're a tryhard

[quick pecan]

for general content probably not

[celest bluff]

Is this another flag vanguard discussion bait

[glass monolith]

I think i never took screenshot of risks i took

[ashen pewter]

nah. this is just me on my last straw on stopping myself from building saileach

[celest bluff]

Yes if waifu, no if nah

[scarlet mortar]

i've built ops for dumb reasons

[celest bluff]

Same

[ashen pewter]

yeah if only she is a husbando itll be a no-brainer sicne that is my nicheknights

[ashen pewter]

sameee

[scarlet mortar]

if you're asking here i assume you wanted a rational answer, but raising ops doesn't really matter after a point

general content is w/e just spend your LMD for fun

[ashen pewter]

im just thinking maybe i was missing some points

[glass monolith]

I build Indigo on left over caster chips after farming Ambriel because funny global attack go

[vernal lion]

[celest bluff]

I can blow all my 500k now
Or save up until 1mil

[ashen pewter]

oh man i have my passenger maxed up.

even before he got buff

[celest bluff]

I probably should stop pulling on eyjaalt banner, but my gambling addiction

[ashen pewter]

no dont stop join me

[celest bluff]

But my dude, I am broke

[ashen pewter]

who says im notttt

all my stash are gone.

[celest bluff]

How much did you pulled

[ashen pewter]

i stopped at 148. since i pulled on Exalter

[celest bluff]

I did not get

[spark sinew]

you already have her?

[ashen pewter]

yeppp

[spark sinew]

why not build then

[ashen pewter]

and 3 copies of swire

[celest bluff]

Oh yeah my passenger and mudrock came from exalter banner

[ashen pewter]

that bad catto

[vernal lion]

who's bad catto

[ashen pewter]

Swire Alter

[vernal lion]

she's just niche, not good or not bad

[ashen pewter]

i mean not as a unit.

i mean she is bad because she keeps coming even tho it couldve been eyjaberry

i got her thriceeeee

and until i got eyja and i stop

[deft badger]

@little merlin boys here have nothing to do anyway 😄

eyja will die if u place her on the tile to the right side by range spawns from the right box and aoe from the boss

totally depends on the relics u got

[little merlin]

i see

[deft badger]

ops u have are kinder hard u will have to work with texas a lot to clear mid and have her ready to drop the boss on the ground

i would try to get him p1 with eyja then exu

let kroos shoot right side probably saria stall left

and just try to spam texas s3

[tidal sedge]

I hate cm stat buffs sometimes

[glass monolith]

Don't know, for me she managed to kill top 2 casters in time, but i have pots and maybe module

[tidal sedge]

Mine is pot 5 mod3 e2 70

Timing issue?

[glass monolith]

You deployed her how late?

I think you can drop her as soon as casters walk in and she will deal with top 2

[tidal sedge]

When top left caster enters vent tile so she doesn't attack into pink tile

[glass monolith]

on right tile from fountain

[tidal sedge]

Hm. That's probably why then

[glass monolith]

Dude there are literally fountain tiles, she will turn pink into while on attack

Don't tell me you wasted time making her do 5000 damage to bottles

[tidal sedge]

No, but that wastes a shot, which I wanted to avoid

[glass monolith]

I could be misremembering, but i think i didn't had much issue with killing on time

(Also i am too Ambriel enjoyer)

[tropic valve]

usually spending 5000 damage to make tiles white is worth it

[glass monolith]

Well issue is caster sheep is not target priority and normal sheep walking by will eat attacks

And caster sheep has more DEF than normal sheep for Ambriel case

[tropic valve]

true

normal sheep will eat lots of shots

[glass monolith]

Silvergun had Deepcolor + Bottle deploy to create white followed by recall on corner and then Utage helidrop on caster sheep which is align so both caster sheep will be attacked on that white

[tidal sedge]

It was better to deploy earlier ye to avoid distracted shots than attempting to maximize skill damage

Optimizing the wrong thing

[tidal sedge]

Cool bottle sniping. More fun than using Red at least

Feels good to use Ifrit again too

[glass monolith]

I need to max level my Ambriel, she leaves tham on like 1-2 digit hp after 2 shots

[tidal sedge]

My e2 70 mod1 two taps them, so that'll make the difference ye

[gray stone]

bruh Aak S1 is actually a good skill

Source: my IS4 run with temp Aak

[tidal sedge]

With module I can see that

[crisp bolt]

on my way to draft Aak start is4

[gray stone]

lmao don't

[tropic valve]

based

[deft badger]

when is global getting IS4?

[peak cloak]

sir, we dont know.

but soon™

[whole hawk]

i want to ask; does anyone have any tips for SL-EX-8 cm?

[turbid badge]

how long is wanqing s2

[tidal sedge]

Unknown at this time isn't it

[dark glade]

is using mlynar considered a tips?

[turbid badge]

ah

whos this btw

[tidal sedge]

I'm looking forward to it's numbers though. Seems promising

[turbid badge]

whats her name i didnt have time to watch the stream

[tidal sedge]

Honeyberry

[peak cloak]

Honeyberry

[turbid badge]

oh its a skin for her

i was like wtf another wandering medic

[tidal sedge]

Ye. Decently cute

[scarlet fulcrum]

011 series, based

[turbid badge]

she gets a umbrella

Op

[turbid badge]

yeah

[deft badger]

just saw people talking about IS4 sending screens i thought it maybe already here lol and something wrong with my game

[tidal sedge]

Umbrellaknights new member

[turbid badge]

mym

[scarlet fulcrum]

They will tease it atleast 3 weeks before release, just take it easy

[peak cloak]

well, simply just kill dolly quick and spend time to weaker mobs.

LMG mounted and loaded

*ratatatattata

[tropic valve]

try to spawnkill dolly phase 1 so there's no more harassment; phase 2 can be killed whenever

Exu + Schwarz is one of many spawnkill solutions

[whole hawk]

i unfortunately do not have any of those ops but ty!

[visual cove]

He kills my exu + pozy before I kill him

[scarlet fulcrum]

just wear out dolly shield then use burst after that

[tropic valve]

put down a bait somewhere

not same column

[visual cove]

my bait is mlynar

[peak cloak]

at this point just copy Kyostin strat haha. very simple one.

[visual cove]

but for some reason it doesn't target mlynar

[tropic valve]

hmm

mlynar should have taunt

[scarlet fulcrum]

Maybe dolly basic atk

Or skill

well skill easy to avoid

And basic just 1.5 radius or smt

[peak cloak]

deploy Mlynar last.

[tropic valve]

Mlynar deploy order should not matter with taunt

unless it's the cursed E1 Mlynar but surely not

[dark glade]

Not the e1s1 mlynar

[warped palm]

Did you guys all beat CM sl ex 7? Dangg that was hard

[weak gazelle]

i think all of the reguler here beat it long ago

[warped palm]

How do I ask for help on CM SL-Ex 8

[tropic valve]

you do it here

[weak gazelle]

can show your roster?

so other can give their thought

[warped palm]

Help on SL-EX-8 CM

[weak gazelle]

mine was 5* only clear so most likely didnt helpful here

[tropic valve]

I see you have Schwarz but not Krooster/Exu, perhaps you could borrow an Exu and try something like this opening? spawnkilling Dolly makes the rest of the stage chill: https://youtu.be/dHpiq2_mV6Y?t=1119

(I know the video shows normal mode, but I tested with Exu and it still does enough damage on CM)

[peak cloak]

[warped palm]

Thanks dokutah, I will check this out

[tropic valve]

as for lanehold, I used greyy alter as you can see but there are many options

[weak gazelle]

another greyyter enjoyer

[warped palm]

I may have to go brute force with my guards on top right blue entrance point, and Schwarz + Pozemka to kill boss, think I need to play more for timing

[tropic valve]

greyyter really pulled his weight

I've been converted

[soft crystal]

His name fits

Hes one of the greater 5 stars

🥁

[sullen rover]

[tidal sedge]

Greyyter cult grows. Excellent.

[undone moth]

anyone got advice for 3-4

theres just a lot going on at once and its hard for my ASD brain to keep track of

[peak cloak]

defenders on mid lanes, give them 2 medics and snipers in the bush

deploy casters nearby defenders too

[undone moth]

what about for the big beefy asshole that comes out on the right top side near the end, he tends to kill my popukar super fast

should i have 3 defenders?

[peak cloak]

u can, bring last defender just in case

[scarlet mortar]

i vaguely remember doing sth like this

two defenders and snipers at mid, aoe from the bushes and medics from the sides

[undone moth]

i had kroos and exusiai on those * and casters where you had medics

i can try that

once i finish this dumb map i can lvl 4 my control room and then 3 a factory and then elite 2 someone and finally buzz through last few event stories

[scarlet mortar]

snipers can be a tile closer to the blue box ig

[undone moth]

i had vanguards where the clocks were, should i just skip out on them and wait out a defender?

[scarlet mortar]

vg's are always to be retreated late into a stage

have them block until your formation is ready

then swap defenders into them

if you have enough damage to not need blockers you can just skip them sure, but early on you kinda don't

[undone moth]

ok

ty

[cyan gorge]

So have I
too deviceless to e2 tho~

[turbid badge]

etyter o

ifeels so honorable raising a good 5*

[runic hull]

Y'all I need help building a team. I'm struggling a bit on resource collection and at getting 3 stars for campaign stages at 2-2. Basically what I'm doing so far is just picking all my five stars with mountain, shirayuki, greyy and hibiscus

[dense drum]

Do i ask stuffs related to IS here or is there another channel dedicated to it?

Cuz i cant find it lol

[surreal star]

you can try #is-station

but strat/help are fine depending on the question too

[dense drum]

Thx

[cunning river]

Okay, what's the deal with EX 6?

[peak cloak]

SL EX 6?

[cunning river]

Yes

[peak cloak]

if u had hard time with big black sheeps. use bait and take away their explosions.

[cunning river]

I am trying to do that but there's just too many of them

[peak cloak]

timing a bit so that u can save dp.
use red and gravel, if u had texas or yato, u can kill them too

u cant bait all of them, few will go away so. if u had ethan s2 u can bind them when they reach left lsne

[cunning river]

At the rate they're coming, even using Elysium I'm getting overrun really quick

[foggy grove]

only the whirlwind you need to throw frd

[clever kernel]

Any other slow units?

For my run gnosis was a godsend

And big guys hate arts

[cunning river]

The big issue is I can't see what the fuck is going on

[peak cloak]

well, pause button and x1 speed will help u a lots when panicking

[cunning river]

No, I mean, it's impossible to tell what is going on

[clever kernel]

Slowing down the plat speed helps, pause too

[clever kernel]

Take your time

The clouds make it hard to see but big red hp bar can help recognize enemies

[cosmic quest]

question: does rooting dolly mean it loses low-altitude hovering?

wondering what I can do to not wait the time between soda explosions and steam attacks to remove the shield from it

[latent monolith]

You mean bind? no

Just use soda

[cosmic quest]

[clever kernel]

Only the mobs, dolly has barrier mechanic to stun the low hover

If you look closely he has 3 pink starts above his head

[cosmic quest]

yeah IK

wondered if bind could skip the mechanic, was thinking of using ines for it

[clever kernel]

Also does bind even stop low hover

[peak cloak]

if those arent what u want, can u spend a momeny to explain?

[latent monolith]

nope

[cosmic quest]

not sure, wouldn't be TOO surprised it somehow it did

[peak cloak]

i mean kuroe

[latent monolith]

Bind doesn't disable regular low altitude hovering

[cosmic quest]

sad

[foggy grove]

bind doesn't drop mobs hover

[clever kernel]

Hard cc is needed indeed

[cosmic quest]

have to actually do mechanics

[clever kernel]

Gnosis time

[latent monolith]

You want to break the shield anyways

It's like 70% DR

[latent monolith]

dolly needs you to break the shield, hard cc doesn't work on it

[cosmic quest]

thought if I broke low-altitude hovering the shield would break too

unless I misunderstood and dolly can gain it while on the floor

[clever kernel]

Funnily enough with ines s2 attack speed she's amazing for breaking soda

[cunning river]

There's no pausing tha'll make this any more legible jfc

[scarlet mortar]

it can't be broken bc dolly's immune to cc in the first place

[latent monolith]

dolly is just immune to all the hard cc

[cosmic quest]

it doesn't list bind there tho

[latent monolith]

so you need to use the mechanic

[scarlet mortar]

bind doesn't break hover

[cosmic quest]

but yeah I understand

[latent monolith]

Yeah no enemies have immunity to bind by default

[scarlet mortar]

so that doesn't matter

[clever kernel]

From this, I see that the tile enemy is pink, so u deal no dmg. Need to make it white using geyser

[latent monolith]

and it doesn't work on low altitude hovering

[cunning river]

I am using the bottles as fast as I can and you just can't keep the smoke white

[clever kernel]

Geyser is fastwr

[scarlet mortar]

what happened to your ranged ops

[latent monolith]

Use the geyser

[clever kernel]

Ranged unit in watery tile

[dark glade]

also bring 3 frd

[clever kernel]

And yes, this event is gimmick heavy

Need to abuse what the game gives u

[scarlet mortar]

zook and W were enough to keep tiles white along with soda, it's not that taxing

[cosmic quest]

if only white steam didn't take time to build up so you could redeploy soda in 0.1 seconds

[peak cloak]

i remember chen with water gun can too

[scarlet mortar]

yh aoe makes it free

[latent monolith]

It's the difference between like enemies having 75% damage reduction and taking 50% more damage
ie the enemies take 6 times as much damage in white steam as they do in pink steam
Same applies to allies btw, allies take 6 times as much damage in pink steam as they do in white steam

[scarlet mortar]

least oppressive mechanic

[cunning river]

Yeah ranged unit in that tile is doing nothing

[latent monolith]

This event gimmick is a massive difference

Who did you put in that tile

[scarlet mortar]

uhhh you just said you were missing white tiles

[cunning river]

Exusiai

[scarlet mortar]

a ranged op from that tile makes white tiles

what is bro cooking

[foggy grove]

aoe unit is preferred

[scarlet mortar]

the last dead sheep respawned a pink tile

[peak cloak]

exu facing up?

[latent monolith]

If the enemies are dead exu won't reapply white steam immediately, they have to come in range

[scarlet mortar]

it was still white while sheep were there

[latent monolith]

It's like
enemy appears > put white steam > enemy dies > drop pink steam

so until the next enemy appears and exu hits them again there's pink steam

read the tutorial

[cunning river]

She's facing down

[clever kernel]

Interesting mudrock position that makes thorns charge slower

[cunning river]

If she was placed any further back then the rest would be hit by the explosions

[scarlet mortar]

it's ok they have soda to spare now

use them to charge thorns

[cunning river]

Okay, what the fuck, anything you place just gets insta killed

[scarlet mortar]

ah yes, EX-7

enjoy

[clever kernel]

U did ex6 congrats

Alright, for normal strat it goes like this. The geyser water tile separates the clouds to 2 sides, you want to quickly explode white cloud on the left side so you can tank the sheep's as you take 6 times less dmg

[scarlet mortar]

either april carry or start building from the left

[clever kernel]

Your soda is in the right position, you need to do it faster than the sheep

[scarlet mortar]

two caster sheep aren't terrible if you're in white steam, and bot lane can't spawn pink steam on your ops after the opener anymore

the only thing left to worry abt is top lane

[clever kernel]

Preferably tank the car sheep with mountain, he can handle it

[cunning river]

Okay, but how, you just don't have enough DP

[scarlet mortar]

^

[clever kernel]

Bring 2 or 3 vanguard

Someone that can tank a lil

[high warren]

I threw ranger and bottle on bottom right than retreat bottle

Than saw someone use yato alter s2 to delete first 4 caster

For second wave of caster I just coped with tons of micromanagement with my squad

[turbid badge]

use the Jk start

itll make the whole thing white

[surreal star]

[cunning river]

JK?

[surreal star]

justice knight

[turbid badge]

basically what that dude just said

[scarlet mortar]

there's plenty of ways to open for EX-7 lmao

[high warren]

If don't have JK can cope with rangers p2

[scarlet mortar]

as long as you don't try to immediately hug the center

[tidal sedge]

It's a pretty chill stage past the open

and the 4x caster wave later ig

[scarlet mortar]

white steam, left side

still no problemo tbh

[high warren]

There's also pozy strat

[cunning river]

Yeah I have no idea

[high warren]

If you've la pluma at centre here you can cope without healer on top assuming you get rid of casters

[cunning river]

Like how the hell are you supposed to handle the upper lane

[tidal sedge]

Crowd control + arts

Big men are no fun to block

[glass monolith]

Solution 1: Then don't

[high warren]

Top right I'd two defender eyja caster and warfarin
Still barely handled near end cuz of mf casters

And had yato alter from time to time

[tidal sedge]

I used Swire Alter and Ifrit

[peak cloak]

dont u have Kaltsit, do you?
s3

[cunning river]

That's what I'm trying and neither her nor Monster last 3 seconds

[peak cloak]

pay attentions to Kal sp and also white smoke

[peak cloak]

wrong kal placement

[high warren]

Do you bait those monsters attack to take one sheep out?

And your stuff on white steam?

[cunning river]

They don't last long enough to do anything really

As much as I can, yes

[high warren]

Try one with yato alter s2 maybe it'll help

[peak cloak]

kal right there

[high warren]

There's also strat with Texas alter that make all tiles white near start at bot or smth

[peak cloak]

just kill caster sheeps fast with executors

[cunning river]

Kal right there gets super killed

[peak cloak]

why? my kal and mon3tr survived even in cm

[cunning river]

I don't know

[peak cloak]

it's just u cant kill caster sheeps fast enough

[peak cloak]

^^

[cunning river]

Executors? What the hell is that?

[peak cloak]

i have s3m3 and mod 3 plus e2 90 texas, u can borrow mine if u need

[peak cloak]

specialist class.

[glass monolith]

Executors are bunch of fast redeploy helidrop killers and Gravel because why not

[cunning river]

Yeah, I don't get it

[runic hull]

I'm still looking for advice! Thanks y'all

[void terrace]

Holy shit ceobe mod3 destroys dolly

Enough speed to break the shield and chuck out his hp too

100 percent worth raising

[clever kernel]

Ok, 4 stars and 3 stars are very strong, don't ignore them, I recommend cutter, kroos, cuora, shirayuki, orchid. For the 5 stars feater is used for her skill to push so she isn't for general use and april ability is her instant skill 2 so isn't general either. Warfarin is a great healer, aosta is underwhelming sadly.

[runic hull]

I think aosta is my only aoe? That's what I'm using him for anyway

[turbid badge]

use Pinecone

[clever kernel]

Shirayuki does aoe too, longer range too

[cunning river]

Finally beat it

Had to break out double flagbearer to do it

[void terrace]

Testing something but does anyone have qiubai s1m3? In theory with enough attack speed/battery (stainless S2/Chen mod) she should be able to permabind a single target

I'm just looking to see if it's actually possible

Very few bosses are immune to bind if im not wrong and being able to just perma bind a boss and spam then to shreds from a distance would be funny as hec

[runic hull]

I don't actually have cutter or kroos unfortunately

[clever kernel]

What

[surreal star]

ask @astral oyster

[turbid badge]

ask @latent anvil

[clever kernel]

They were in your screenshot tho

[void terrace]

Her attack interval is 1.3, her S1 M3 bind time is 3 seconds.

Saileach can provide permenant 11% atkspeed

[runic hull]

Oh woops wait I have kroos, but I must've accidentally put cutter in

[latent anvil]

who want my qb s1m3

[turbid badge]

wgz put urs up

[astral oyster]

U need my qiubai?

[turbid badge]

[astral oyster]

[surreal star]

blemi vs wgz race

[latent anvil]

give ur name

[peak cloak]

quick , blemi

[clever kernel]

I have my sl1 qb

[astral oyster]

[clever kernel]

[astral oyster]

Name jay

[latent anvil]

what if they dont have stainless

[turbid badge]

quick

im gonna test

[runic hull]

Does this look good?

[latent anvil]

ok teta shes up

[void terrace]

Tq

[runic hull]

Still gonna use aosta purely cause levels yknow

[astral oyster]

damn

too slow

gonna sepukku now

[peak cloak]

quite decent. do u have any guards?

[turbid badge]

etf blemi first

Wfz take a l

[glass monolith]

3 defenders will be probably overkill, expecially on stages which spam drones or dogs

[turbid badge]

[latent anvil]

but blemi low level

[turbid badge]

true

gonna refresh

[astral oyster]

damn

[latent anvil]

but mine lower pot

[astral oyster]

1dp diff frfr

[runic hull]

My collection is here

Minus cutter haha

[void terrace]

Thanke

[turbid badge]

wtf

88

not 90

scammed

[runic hull]

Speaking of, is there a way to share a link to this site instead of having to do screenshots?

[latent anvil]

too broke teta pro

[astral oyster]

krooster

[clever kernel]

Would want vanguards, at least one. You can change lava out

[latent anvil]

yes just put https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/teta but instead of teta pro just do whatever name u used

[runic hull]

Yep yep, thanks

[void terrace]

Damn it's not enough. Its close with Chen stainless and saileach. Gonna add Angelina

Any other passive long term atk speed buffers?

[turbid badge]

lmao i forgot adds

[void terrace]

Aak is an option

[astral oyster]

even with stainless + chen its not enuf ?

[turbid badge]

it worked with me i think

i had ayerscarpe too

[void terrace]

Plus chen

Yeah I was trying on paint he was slowly advancing

Definitely a lot slower but still advancing

[astral oyster]

paint ?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1050771392972468264.webp?size=48&name=exustare&quality=lossless

[void terrace]

Patriot

How to did that autocorrect

Tf

Potate

[astral oyster]

wait next year for shu for that 1 sp passive frfr

[turbid badge]

oh wait nvm

It doesnt work

theres times where it desyncs

Lol

[runic hull]

https://krooster.com/u/Jinni there we go. As for guards I have mountain and dobermann

And quite a few vanguards

[astral oyster]

what was the question again

im too lazy to go up

srry

[peak cloak]

team building question

[runic hull]

How to improve my team

[astral oyster]

personally myself i would kick aosta for melantha

[turbid badge]

when i get lucky it can hold for 9 seconds

[astral oyster]

i love ground units more

[turbid badge]

patriot slowly inches closer

doro irene

[astral oyster]

are there no more sp buffers?

[runic hull]

I will once I get more levels on others, I kinda used a bunch of mats on him before knowing if he was good or not haha

[turbid badge]

they can desync goving sp

and than it fuggs up

[tropic valve]

promote Mountain

[turbid badge]

like they give sp when shes casting the skill or when its alrd full

and it get wasted

[void terrace]

Yea

[runic hull]

Yeah I tried the guard supplies level and got destroyed haha

[void terrace]

The timing is super finnicky

[astral oyster]

is there a chance to time stainless sp bats to hit ?

[void terrace]

Her so lock out is there

I think it needs more atk speed

Caus then her skill cast gets faster too

[astral oyster]

aak isnt a perma option

[void terrace]

Like in theory it should work on SSS

[astral oyster]

[void terrace]

Whelp time to wait for saileach module

My depot is already crying

[turbid badge]

[astral oyster]

is there a way to burn hp and spam saria ?

[void terrace]

I'll put off the qiubai s1m3

[void terrace]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh warf isn't permenant tho

[astral oyster]

yea if there was a way to burn hp saria prob could work

maybe

[void terrace]

Probelm is still the so lock out

I'll try with just aak and see if she can perma the whole duration

Then we know she needs at least 50 asp permenantlt

[turbid badge]

wanqing also fulls aspd

In the future

[astral oyster]

whoose that?

the new welfare vg? ?

[turbid badge]

yea

whiplash can also give aspd

if u consistently make qiubai +1 blcok

its 8 aspd

but than again youll need alot of aspd

[void terrace]

Damn aak stainless Chen still doesn't work

Whelp this is moot I guess

[turbid badge]

aak doesnt work?

[void terrace]

Better but even with his 50 aspd patriot still inches forward aft every 3rd or 4th atk

Would need really good timing on the batteries plus chen deploy to minimise it

Oh well kinda lost cause

Alternative is someone else who can consistently bind and pair the two

Ethan is prime candidate but heavy rngesus

[turbid badge]

yea

or just do dorothy + irene

[void terrace]

Ok stainless s2 aak S3 plus chen works

For duration of their skills patriot is frozen

But then again might as well mostima

[turbid badge]

this is so trill

troll

lmao

honestly thi

you can easily achieve infinite bind with her

[scarlet mortar]

SP cycle L

[turbid badge]

just have liskarm battery her

and have her on brawlers or something

[void terrace]

Yes

[turbid badge]

brawlers will die tho sadly

even the tankiest

[scarlet mortar]

someone had the idea of trying that with max hp doro in POO btw

[void terrace]

Wait how tf did you get that

[turbid badge]

[scarlet mortar]

[void terrace]

What's the timing

Is Ange on mod?

[turbid badge]

it still failed tho

no

Shes on healing module

[void terrace]

Orh

[glass monolith]

Stainless S2 for some reason sometimes just defy its own description and just don't give SP after 3.5 seconds

[turbid badge]

i just deployed chen a bit later so the three seconds has less times to destnc

[glass monolith]

I did Erato stall of Kristien in LT, and i had 1 device give 1 SP, and other device give 0 SP in 4 second window

[void terrace]

Thanks for lend

Am done testing

[turbid badge]

ngl try windflit

wait

[void terrace]

What he do?

[turbid badge]

than u would need to use stainless s3

eh its fine

dw

[glass monolith]

WINDFLIT ON WHO? He give SP to supporter/casters only

[turbid badge]

so much for this

oh

does s1 not work

[glass monolith]

Or was his +1 SP universal while device isn't?

[turbid badge]

oh

only caster

or supp

bruh this dum

i never thought to read it clearly

[void terrace]

Brain it's windlift lmao

[turbid badge]

but his talent says his battery useless elsewhere

other than those

[void terrace]

I mean is there any good perma slow cycle like mosti suzuran + someone

[glass monolith]

It is even dumber than Ptilo talent out does him (and most supporter/casters are Auto recovery anyway)

[turbid badge]

manticore

spalter

mostima p5

[void terrace]

Hmmm Mandi work?

Oh right

I just need manti

[turbid badge]

yea

[void terrace]

Looking for permenant cycles for fun

[turbid badge]

i did that for tfn

or whatever it was

poo last stage

had a shifter at the end

[void terrace]

Ooh

Most p5 is just

Cool

[void terrace]

Zawarudo

[turbid badge]

i had another clear where it was just stall but than it got wrekt

cuz bonecrushers killed bena eventually

[void terrace]

Gosh I remember just doing the bare minimum for poo

[turbid badge]

and started havoc so i had to bring mlynar instead of smth else

[void terrace]

It was pein

Truly poo

Brute forced the whole event and regretted it so much

[turbid badge]

if u want a perm cycle just do irene + dorothy

this fails if irene is m3 btw

[void terrace]

Yeah but Dorothy runs out of stacks tho

But honestly would love to make the pair useful again

[turbid badge]

feed her some sp

with stainless

[void terrace]

One mastery on Irene shouldn't hurt

Oh yeahhhhh

Genius

[turbid badge]

just use manticore

tbh

her slow is pretty easy to use

[void terrace]

True

[turbid badge]

just make everything around her into a slug

than you can add ines shadow , modtima , spalter doll etc etc

and for the permenant part just add a shifter at the end

theres also Mr nothing + erato

or in this case

[tidal sedge]

They wanted try this Qiubai thing because bind has little immunities

[turbid badge]

yea

sleep has a fair bit of immunities too now

hmm

[spark sinew]

if qb your best bet to cc something, you should just kill it

[tidal sedge]

Yeah if you're doing these kinds of combos. There's the practical question of why not buff a dps instead. But I'm also assuming they might have a taste for lockdowns over dps

[turbid badge]

just add anothwr binder

[scarlet mortar]

can some dalao finish this strat for me kthx

[spark sinew]

god have mercy

[turbid badge]

none of these pair well with her honestly

cant so a permabind

just a budgetbind

[tidal sedge]

What's the theme here exactly

[peak cloak]

god have mercy

[spark sinew]

love how this still isn't perma

[scarlet mortar]

enemyknights 4op

doro S2 skalter S1 phantom S2 mudrock S2

[turbid badge]

ill just erato and qiubai and stainless sleep

[tidal sedge]

Oh right. I keep forgetting you're the enemyknights person

[scarlet mortar]

might need mud S3 but i haven't tested it

[spark sinew]

how long is sleep on erato

[tidal sedge]

5 seconds

[turbid badge]

5

[scarlet mortar]

i'm too eepy to keep trying

[spark sinew]

you could do some dumb shit
nvm

although

qb needs 5.2 seconds to do 4 attacks

so technically you can just use stainless device

[glass monolith]

SP lock is 1 second, 2.4 seconds between attacks. For perma sleep erato you need to provide SP in 3.8 window otherwise she will sleep on third attack which is after 7.2 seconds (2.2 second downtime for sleep)

[turbid badge]

the issue is alot boss immune sleepy

[spark sinew]

maybe some modless chen and non m3 qb can do it

[turbid badge]

[spark sinew]

but also why tf would you do this instead of Mr Nothing

[turbid badge]

cuz it eat my dp

[spark sinew]

who even is immune to stun

but not immune to sleep

[peak cloak]

phantom s2?

[scarlet mortar]

yh

[scarlet mortar]

^

[tidal sedge]

ToW casters

[spark sinew]

wait for gg to be an enemy in is5 idk

[turbid badge]

try s3

[scarlet mortar]

i eep

[turbid badge]

oh eep

[scarlet mortar]

[spark sinew]

well, in their case it also doesn't matter i think

like, perma sleep + bind is useless on ranged enemies

[turbid badge]

haulcindu dlaoa

[spark sinew]

unless you outrange 🤔

and idt qb does (maybe on the tip of the range? i'm honestly not sure about their range)

[turbid badge]

Yes

dalao

[spark sinew]

zz

[turbid badge]

@void terrace wait for shu push back mechanic

on s3

[spark sinew]

shu push back seems useless unless in specific corners or if enemy is unblockable

[glass monolith]

Weedy + Shu, Now you can push Clownslayer twice

[void terrace]

What is shu?

A little behind the times

[glass monolith]

Saria 2.0

[void terrace]

Seriously?

[gray stone]

Which one of you is this

[turbid badge]

oh this us gonna be op

[glass monolith]

5th limited CNY waifu

[turbid badge]

against the is4 boss

id rather draft qani

cheap!