strategy

[jovial nest]

IC rerun won't have all parts. It's when it become perma first heh

unless they do?

[mossy ore]

well not DH rerun

more like

just DH

idk why i typed rerun there

[glass monolith]

DH-MO was revenge for me spawnkilling bot for entire time in Anni 10

[mossy ore]

DH being 2 years ago makes me feel old

[celest bluff]

So the difference between intermezzi and side story is

One have Kaltsit fuck around a lot and the other doesn't

[glass monolith]

"Back in my day AH wasn't so f- OP, we had to manually level operators by 40 EXP cards at the time, and we had no UI to quickly access operator talents"

[jovial nest]

Intermezzi is when

the event story affects the main story

in other words, it's only a matter of time for Aegir distress call to be an actual main story chapter

[glass monolith]

And in like 4/5 of cases it is somehow Kaltsit's related fault

[jovial nest]

it's only her fault if you consider her interventions to be wrong

which theyre not

[spark sinew]

the timeline is a mess though

isn't SN in quite a future

compared to current story

[jovial nest]

timelines don't matter much as long as you got the gist of what's happening

flashback events aren't exactly common

[tall cairn]

[scarlet mortar]

in the first place so many of the events don't have contact points

[celest bluff]

I joined the game when you still must manually putting exp cards

[spark sinew]

not the point i was trying to make, basically seaborn shit is outside of the story "timeline"

[celest bluff]

Then after a few weeks, that changed

[spark sinew]

at least for now?

[jovial nest]

thats the point. It shows that the world of Terra doesn't revolve around RI's involvement

[spark sinew]

did you manage to see the manual tp collecting

you needed to click on the tp and confirm orders one by one

[celest bluff]

I know fuck all about base at that point

Took me awhile

Well I come a long way since then

[spark sinew]

i'm scared

[celest bluff]

Too long that I wished I can actually whale

Because guess what

[deft badger]

u need a vpn and u have to make an acc on google play with that vpn

[spark sinew]

game not in your country's google play?

how would you make a transaction if you do that

[deft badger]

so if u have lets say like a german vpn u have to make a german google account

[spark sinew]

or will it accept any card? no, right

actually...

[deft badger]

he still can buy the cards

[celest bluff]

Well still can pay in 2021

[deft badger]

and just load them up yes he pays a fee but its 1euro

[celest bluff]

But not now

[spark sinew]

yeah google changed their policy in...some year

oh the gift cards or equivalent?

such a hassle 🛌

[deft badger]

fee for buying a google play gift card is 1 euro on the site where have been getting mine

25-50-100 its 1 euro xD

[tall cairn]

[glass monolith]

Because redeemable only in US/some random ass country or some shit like that

[deft badger]

the seller takes the 1 euro for the card u get the amount u want but they offer only 25 - 50 or 100

so u pay 26 51 or 101

thats better then nothing...

[spark sinew]

paying with paypal for AK would be an ok option but i think it's only available in us

so zzz

[glass monolith]

Virgin Google: Sorry you can't redeem gift card, your country operates in different currency
Gigachad Steam: We converted whatever shit you added to your wallet to your currency on fair rate, have a good day sir.

[celest bluff]

Just witnessed a guy throw 55 pulls on this banner

And pulled blem

[glass monolith]

Me as guy who missing blem: It should have been me

[civic bear]

anni map

[spark sinew]

sleep enthusiast missing blem wasn't she in shop

[celest bluff]

Meanwhile me not getting shit

[glass monolith]

She is not Kernel only, i need 1500 gold certs of Kernel shoping

[celest bluff]

I guess my luck got fucked since yato-alt pull

Rat

Yeah lin rat

[vernal lion]

lin the rat

[celest bluff]

Funny because Dorothy and click is also zalak

Or at least the file said so

[jovial nest]

because they are

[void terrace]

Damn I'm pretty surprised by stainless's damage and utility. At first I was just using him to charge attack sp but his turrets get quite ridiculous with fast attacking ape guards and buffs like skadi s2. A turret with gavail s3 straight up turns into a aoe sniper

And the damage is great too not to mention the 20% phys dmg reduction

[foggy grove]

[glass monolith]

Anyway i started blasting

[scarlet ledge]

gday sir

[foggy grove]

stainless sucks

because he dowsn't want to come home

[scarlet ledge]

wtf

sucking

[void terrace]

Was using him on the new anni and most enemies weren't even getting to gavail, the turret was procing so much over gavail and chongyue's atks it just removed elabana and the waves before they got close

[glass monolith]

I drink tea every day and british invaded in first pull

[void terrace]

His his module is actually decent for his uptime too

[foggy grove]

idk if i want to try tftw banner

ines stainless horn

[spark sinew]

what uptime

[void terrace]

Honestly that banner is op. Stainless should have much better rating for new players too. He can turn any fast attacking opp into a powerhouse, or just stacking a few ops to bash his turret and it's atk speed is mad. It works really well with mulesyse s3 as well with the ranged ops constantly having something to hit and spawn clones, as well as spamming the turret

[jovial nest]

imagine needing another operator to make an operator less shitty

[void terrace]

300% atk scale with internal atk up is already damn good, just dependant on another ops atk speed to proc it

[spark sinew]

stainless' turrets scale with his own atk

[glass monolith]

You playing tower defense, i am playing YuGiOh and special summon dual wield cannon Skalter S3

[spark sinew]

i mean imagine you raised mlynar instead

[void terrace]

Lmao yeah. Of all the 6 stars in game I have stainless is pretty mid but I end up using him more than I thought

It gets pretty dull when you aren't missing anyone T-T

[void terrace]

Honestly operator combos are fun tho

[deft badger]

dude mentions yugioh now i wanna look up a cracked version and just play it for fun
like 4-5 months ago u did mention pokemon one time i went to download a emu and play for like 10 days without sleep stupid pokemon yellow and gold

[spark sinew]

i'm still curious what you meant by "uptime"

[void terrace]

His charge time decreases a bit making s3 a little more spammable.

[spark sinew]

did you ever ran out of turrets before

[void terrace]

With ptilo it's 1.55 sp per sec if in range and next to turret. Which is 35 second cool down to 22 second cooldown

Nope but just doing a little more damage can go along way especially when the turrets are firing a bunch. And yes occasionally I run out of turrets in large waves of enemies and if they fire too much

Gavail and executor tend to be the main culprits of blowing through my turret reserves

[spark sinew]

by that i mean that you ran out of turrets in reserve

it never happened to me

[void terrace]

I mean just depends which ops are attacking the turret

Exu can blow through a turret super fast

[deft badger]

that's when u don't place him next to the turret to repair it

[spark sinew]

not really, unless you chain two turrets

they're limited by the enemies' hp

[void terrace]

Chaining two turrets on executor blows through them like now tomorrow

[spark sinew]

but whatever, was just curious

[void terrace]

Turret ASMR lmao

[deft badger]

btw does he have like a cap how much hp he restors to the turret, can it still be destroyed even if he is next to it repairing?

[spark sinew]

mine is still unmoduled and idr his module is worth even for mod1, let alone mod2-3 🤔

[void terrace]

There's also the dumb blemishine pennance turret to get faster pennance sheilds

[spark sinew]

not having enough turrets is never the issue, to the point you usually don't bother spamming skill on cd

[void terrace]

It's either mod 0 or 3

And only if you love him a bunch

[spark sinew]

mod1 is great

[glass monolith]

Turret lose like 2.5% HP per shot, he (roberta and widnflit too) repairs 1% per hit i think

[void terrace]

Hmmm I guess one extra makes sense for skill 1

[spark sinew]

it's 8dp reduced for s3

[deft badger]

well its most of the time chong or thorns hitting turret for me xD

[void terrace]

Chong turret is great. Suddenly you have aoe ranged air coverage on your laneholder

Oh I forgot the cost part

[deft badger]

ahh ok explains then how they die i thought u can't destroy them if he is next to them

[void terrace]

Yeah mod 1 is good then

[glass monolith]

Who said that only Stainless attacking turret on his side?

[spark sinew]

mod3 seems like blatant p5 bait

i dislike it

[void terrace]

Honestly my stainless always ends up not attacking turrets T-T

[glass monolith]

Exu S3 and now that turret lose 2.5% HP each Exu attack who i think out attacks Stainless

[spark sinew]

maybe if you cope pyrolysis too much

[void terrace]

Their usually Infront of my front line or split between two laneholders

[spark sinew]

although idk how it interacts with -sp

i think out attacks Stainless
wdym?

[deft badger]

well on my side its not only him as well but i never leave it stand thats probably the reason i never saw it blow up, i just let chong or thorns fast charge if i like really need them to then remove turret and stainless 😄

[glass monolith]

Unknown ask me how whoever uses Stainless loses turrets if Stainless heal outscale damage and i say if you use Exu that shit is not repairable in time

[void terrace]

The turret actually does a bunch of work tho

[kindred galleon]

is there a need to whiten the steam

[void terrace]

Esp on chongyue it can deal a bunch of extra dmg

[deft badger]

Jay already did say that, the moment u told me 2% hp restor it was clear to me if u let exu go wild on it that thing is not going to stand anymore

[void terrace]

Only if your suffering on survivability

[foggy grove]

pink steam is bad so yeah

[spark sinew]

even if you lose turrets, you just place new one

[void terrace]

Yeah

[spark sinew]

we basically don't have stages long enough to care about running out

[glass monolith]

Waiting for RA2

[spark sinew]

gonna play it a bit but idt i have stainless there

[peak cloak]

me too

[spark sinew]

he was usless on en because of our "tower" bug anyway

[void terrace]

I mean replacing them earlier before each skill activation can keep them fresh

[spark sinew]

why would you do that

[void terrace]

Stainless will be pretty busted with hoader tho. Suddenly he gets stupid self heal consistently even between waves

[void terrace]

I mean just not to run out of turrets.

So each stainless activation doesn't waste one

[spark sinew]

ah, ig

[void terrace]

My starts usually involve piling wayyyy too many ops on one lane and if all of them attack the turret it attacks faster than exu on s3

[spark sinew]

just don't mod him so you don't have this issue

[vernal lion]

just don't use him

[void terrace]

But hes one of the fun ops that actually synergies well with others tho

Meanwhile swire alter being swire alter

I'm trying to justify raising her but I just can't seem to

The conditional immortality is nice but on the other hand nian mod 3 and eyjaberry can tank infinity and beyond

Or just the abyssal team with silence alter is already practically immortal

[spark sinew]

no real reason to use her yes

[tidal sedge]

Not surprising. Her kit is more about imitating other classes than trying to be boundary pushing

[spark sinew]

hmm, gladia's DR stacks with other dr?

seems overkill either way

[tidal sedge]

S1 imitates guardians
S2 imitates trapper
S3 imitates swordmaster

[void terrace]

The damage reduction let's skadi and specter stand Infront of the steam knight for eternity

Gladia is a Dr, silence is shelter

[spark sinew]

ah brainrot

so it does stack

[void terrace]

Stack multiplicatively

[spark sinew]

i mean shelter is just a named DR

[glass monolith]

It gets better. Gladiia DR stacks wiht Stainless S3 DR which stack with itself (you can use 2 turrets to give DR to same target) which stacks with Shelter from Silence Alter/Quercus etc

[vernal lion]

s1 is Jaye
s2 is ChongYue
s3 is Weedy (but worse)

[void terrace]

It's very overkill but yes I enjoy massively over buffing my survivability

[hollow epoch]

Its so fucking annoying because no matter which skill you pick shes designed to have to take up time and dp to scale, unlike other merchats who can deploy for short durations and still do their job then get off

[void terrace]

Does s3 work with Angelina and ho'ol

The 2 level weight reduction

Might be pretty funny

[spark sinew]

least all merchants have good module now

[void terrace]

But then again weedy

[glass monolith]

#strategy message Who need DEF when i have DR of brain

[tidal sedge]

S3 is definitely a Ch'en reference. Double hit + 10 hit nuke

[spark sinew]

imagine some 4* merchant with that +stat module

trying to compete with JAYE

[hollow epoch]

If s2 spawned with a full 8 bottles or s3 spawned with actual kb and faster recharge, maybe she wouldve had some use

[spark sinew]

while still draining 3dp

[tidal sedge]

Jaye was very strong even before module

[hollow epoch]

Like youd be able to deploy s2, wait 4 seconds and blow up a bunch of enemies, and then get off

[tidal sedge]

What merchant does this

[spark sinew]

he was yeah, but the module is super huge qol

for all merchants

[vernal lion]

Lee

[hollow epoch]

Jaye gets to 100% effectiveness the second his skills finish charging, which is like 5 seconds

[tidal sedge]

No merchant does something immediately, that's the executor schtick

[hollow epoch]

Yeah, her bottles would still have the activation time

[hollow epoch]

But as it stands her bottles are one every 3 seconds

[tidal sedge]

Lee wants to stick around

[hollow epoch]

So to even get a single functional trap, you have to wait 3 seconds for bottle, 4 seconds for it to prime, and pray that it doesnt land on the wrong fucking tile

[spark sinew]

any merchant with this branch would be at disadvantage nowadays

[hollow epoch]

And even then, it hits one person

[spark sinew]

s3 seems almost instant to me btw

unless you also want to push immediately

[hollow epoch]

Look if swire alter had the same kind of utility or an equivalent in damage that lee gets within 7 seconds accounting for masteries i would be fine with it

[spark sinew]

lee is 2 seconds slower to activate the skill for example, on all 3 skills

swire will be op when we get lvl4 tp

[hollow epoch]

Hell, even just literally having s2 be dorothy traps would make me very happy with her, because itll give her actual stopping power and better laneholding utility especially against mobs

[spark sinew]

wow that's actually a great way to nerf proviso

[hollow epoch]

But her skills are slow to generate and pretty useless to boot

[spark sinew]

merchants are not supposed to do aoe damage/deal with hordes though i think they learned that they get too strong because of Lee

who can stop infinite number of enemies and also has aoe on s2 but it's janky so no one uses it

[hollow epoch]

Lee isnt even like meta defining, hes strong but niche

[spark sinew]

none of the merchants are meta defining in that sense though
lee is very strong with frankly overloaded kit

[tidal sedge]

Yeah. Lee is already the anti-mob merchant. I just think the 'problem' with her design is just something more fundamental.

[spark sinew]

higher dp caps might make her more interesting to play

[dry night]

how do i beat this stage

[spark sinew]

we already seen HG experimenting with low ones

and we also saw the high dp caps on that daily POO map

[vernal lion]

Phantom to kill the skateboard sheep first, then 2 snipers for top left and top right

[tidal sedge]

It's an attempt at experimenting at how valuable versatility is in the context of a single op's skill suite. Which unfortunately it isn't.

[hollow epoch]

I dont care about dp, weve been in flagpipe hell for years, she isnt even worth the operator deployment cap

[void terrace]

Hmm has anyone found a way to make her functionally immortal with 5 flagbearers or something

If there's no cap on her dp doubling revival then it's moot anyway

[tidal sedge]

You can't pay 1280 dp for a ninth revival iirc

[spark sinew]

i mean we have 99 dp cap still

[gleaming lodge]

Bs cap honestly

[spark sinew]

there's no cap

that's why i was thinking about higher dp cap on the maps themselves that would make it a bit more interesting

[gleaming lodge]

How am I supposed to redeploy Penance and Mudrock for the 2nd time ?
They both cost over 65

[void terrace]

What ops. Just stack ops and healing around the blue box

[foggy grove]

oh yeah defenderknight will feel the pain of the cap

[void terrace]

But drop soda bottles whenever you can

On the Frontline to reduce the stupid pink smoke dmg on your tanks

[gleaming lodge]

You're always in DP hell with defenders
Even at the end of the map, because all your ops cost half the max DP cap...

[near folio]

Is there any strat for Lucian in hard mode IS2?

Feels like hes just oneshotting my ops

And especially when he kills my wandering medic its all over

[spark sinew]

block or ignore dodge

what relic though, crown?

[void terrace]

Pozy plus healer on the three tiles on top left, then pozy aims at him when he stops with dodge pierce

[scarlet mortar]

schwarz Ymod camps him

[gleaming lodge]

You want to setup a big burst whenever he stops

[void terrace]

Thats great too. Works better with warf

[near folio]

I usually get the relic that gives bosses extra stats

[spark sinew]

i'm not sure he actually oneshots witho... welp, that does it

does he actually oneshot, without his clone?

[void terrace]

Whot level are your ops?

[vernal lion]

least dogshit relic

[near folio]

He oneshots my eyjaberry

[void terrace]

What level tho

[spark sinew]

is he solo?

[near folio]

Usually he has clone

Cause he would break the roadblock

[gleaming lodge]

You're not really supposed to let the clones do their AoE attacks

[spark sinew]

he won't break the roadblock since you kill him before that

[near folio]

Its really hard to stop the clone at the first roadblock though

[spark sinew]

on the top left

[near folio]

Its stacked right on top of him

[vernal lion]

I wonder if you can stack his clones

[spark sinew]

if you didn't just kill him, just undeploy and prepare for round 2

[scarlet mortar]

spawncamping is by far the easiest way imo, as weird as it sounds

[near folio]

Idk man my Horn unloading all her rockets only does 20%

[spark sinew]

...

did you read his kit

[vernal lion]

yea, I just Kal'tsit and Aak on Monster then dip

[scarlet mortar]

he gets exponentially more annoying the longer he lives

[spark sinew]

i think it's harder than left side kill personally

singers are annoying, and even if you outrange them, they still steal the shots from your ops

[scarlet mortar]

schwarz + doro S2 should stop him dead in his tracks

[spark sinew]

crown lucian is tanky

[scarlet mortar]

also the singers

[gleaming lodge]

Depends on what you have

[near folio]

I feel that my ops arent strong enough to actually block him head on

[void terrace]

Are they e1?

[gleaming lodge]

With Sexas and co, it's fairly easy to burst him nowadays

[near folio]

E2

[scarlet mortar]

i am kinda assuming you have the best options for the strat, else you'll have to take the roster into consideration

[gleaming lodge]

Wait @near folio
Can you send a screenshot of your roster ?

[vernal lion]

yo imagine survivalist on F5 and F6

[spark sinew]

inb4 schwarz pozy maxed

[tidal sedge]

Survivalist on floor 6 is impossible iirc

[spark sinew]

with like kal mod3

survivalist would make it easier for you won't it

[vernal lion]

but I really hate the one that buff enemies tho, it sucks ass

[spark sinew]

since you get more dps and boss doesn't

[scarlet mortar]

doro S2 has the funny long-distance binds, pretty useful for stopping bosses with aoe skills

[near folio]

I have almost everything ig

[scarlet mortar]

in this case she binds lucian well away from range

[spark sinew]

the only ranged mobs that you can't outrange are those double hit guys from TW

[near folio]

But I usually go with defender supporter squad

[tidal sedge]

Survivalist gets changed into Blind if the game rolls if my memory is right

For floor 6

[near folio]

I dont usually pick snipers in IS

Aside from krooster

[gleaming lodge]

[spark sinew]

[gleaming lodge]

The what ?

No wonder you're losing

You have no DPS

Play snipers
Just once

[tidal sedge]

If this is IS2, why avoid Firewatch

[gleaming lodge]

As a defenderknights player, I can tell you, they are not great in IS#2

[near folio]

Oh I see

[scarlet mortar]

sniper/medic or vg/guards should kinda sweep

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah

I hate to say it
But just DPS everything

You have no reason to use tanks in a game-mode that can eventually give you +300 ASPD

[near folio]

Is e1 shamare worth picking up if i dont plan to promote her

[spark sinew]

specs casters are also funny

[gleaming lodge]

For the doll ?
In general I would say no

Unless you have an Exu-buff squad
And a lot of squad/deploy slots

[spark sinew]

is2 doesn't really punish casters on ed1/3

[scarlet mortar]

hey if you're lucky you can oneshot lucian with eben

[spark sinew]

the easiest way is to still pozy/black though

[gleaming lodge]

[spark sinew]

especially for ed4

[scarlet mortar]

go big or go home (for 40m until you get back to f5)

[near folio]

Blacknight?

[spark sinew]

schwarz hard to type her name

[vernal lion]

that one emergency with jetpack sniper on F1:

[near folio]

Krooster:

Oh

[glass monolith]

Me: Go big -> Goes into Wonderland on D12 run to stack survival contract

[scarlet mortar]

one wfu later

[spark sinew]

i wonder how much defense lucian has on crown

schwarz might actually be better

[fiery marsh]

Now in the last Boss stage of the run, the buff goes to myrthe

[spark sinew]

don't run myrtle

[glass monolith]

It went on Lin. And i had Lin who got proc of corrosion every "as soon as possible" and still had enough DEF to shield from boss who died like 15 seconds away from blue boxing

[fiery marsh]

If It is TLK i really fell the need for dp, now the others are doable

[spark sinew]

🤔
don't care for wasted survivor then (or run non MoM)
for all intents and purposes agents are usually enough

[lethal forge]

I've been trying SL-8 for about an hour and a half but can't seem to complete it even with some characters at E2 and following a guide. Dolly for some reason keeps attacking my higher rarity operators and not my low rarity tanks I place in front when he "explodes". Is that normal and is there a way to counteract that? I've been trying many different guides and using support units and even though I have E1/E2 operators, I just can't seem to complete the stage.

[gleaming lodge]

Are you managing aggro properly ?

[spark sinew]

are you using mlynar

he has taunt

same with penance/lee/something else

[glass monolith]

Yato S2

[spark sinew]

when operator's kit is so overloaded, people forget some parts of it

[scarlet mortar]

dolly has two skills btw, the one where he rains down the column of the ground op with the most aggro (or ranged if there're no ground ops)

and the one where he explodes all pink tiles

if you haven't cleared the pink tiles near your ops yh they explode @lethal forge

[glass monolith]

Boss normal attack goes to last deployed (unless taunt) in range. It is rare, like once per 8 seconds, and it will leave pink smoke on operator.
Boss skill 1 target last deployed (unless taunt) GLOBALLY. It damage and pink smoke all tiles in same column with operator.
Boss skill 2 makes all pink smoke explode doing damage.
In phase 2 boss only walks and leave pink smoke, and cast skill 2 as soon as recovers from being shot down

[lethal forge]

ah i see. thats why a lot of guides use mlynar. yeah i was using Eckogen and someone else's guide which uses Ch'alter

[foggy grove]

the guide use mlynar because it's mlynar

[tall cairn]

Mlynar is a funny op.

[lethal forge]

oh yeah i was struggling to keep up with the timer since most of the time whenever i put down the crate later on Dolly would make it pink again 🙏

[lethal forge]

tyy i shouldve reread how dolly works haha. ty that really helps. i thought he would target like the operator with the most hp but now i know its the last deployed haha. thanks for the help!

[noble pewter]

What is dolly normal atk range?

[glass monolith]

like 1.5-2 tiles, and it attacks super rarely

[vernal lion]

1.5 tiles

[tall cape]

Is there a cheese strat for Killing Dolly on SL-8 normal?

[sullen rover]

exu + warf

[peak cloak]

and Skadi alter if u had her

[noble pewter]

There is none normal sl-8?

[peak cloak]

man, it's a machine gun

[glass monolith]

Me:
Reno D: Uploads WB-7 Degen solo

[gleaming lodge]

Degen is pretty good

Big damage

Guard

End of the story

[crude oak]

so, I've E2'd Swirealter, but I dunno if she's worth mastery and module

[spark sinew]

why did you e2 her

[strange violet]

How do I beat SL-P-2 in the event?

[glass monolith]

#strategy message How normal people do P-2.
#strategy message One of way to ignore intended solution (not easier)

[vernal lion]

so you just pick lowest price

the profit still goes stonk

[jovial nest]

well the problem is sometimes not scouting the other guy makes me forget they can undersell like me

so my greed gets the better of me

[hollow epoch]

you can fight p stages already?

[jovial nest]

i mean P stages are just puzzles

they're not the hard content

[vernal lion]

you can play when you beat SL-6 with at least 2 star

[hollow epoch]

oh i mixed up the s and p stages

[crude oak]

I E2 all 6* ops

I'll regret Lessing here in a few months

[vernal lion]

so for SL-Puzzle stages, the fastest time you can clear:
SL-P-1 in 43s (47s left),
SL-P-2 in 41s (49s left),
SL-P-3 in 76s (14s left).

[glass monolith]

You sure you not mixed up P-1 and P-3 times?

[glass monolith]

That's TIME LEFT

[vernal lion]

yea, I count on time left ofc lol

let me edit it

[jovial nest]

of course there will always be such a thing as speedrunning prebuilt-squad challenges

[glass monolith]

Or challenge of using wrong skill in prebuilt squads when you given option to swap them

Like me using QB S3 skill where you suppose to do Warf into QB S2 in some ungodly way i didn't figure out

[jovial nest]

i mean

it only really really matters....when they point it out that you can swap skills

if not, it's better not to change em

unless we're talking other skills making faster clears possible

[glass monolith]

Btw remember premade TfN squads where operators come with unequipped modules?

[foggy grove]

it's only ambri smh

[vernal lion]

conehead zombie sheep

[scarlet fulcrum]

1 can be faster

[vernal lion]

hmm

ohhh

I get it

[glass monolith]

the zombies sheep are coming, b||r||aa-inz

[scarlet fulcrum]

2 and 3 like fixed

[jovial nest]

I didn't know that. And if they were....I still won

[subtle dagger]

in IS3, after getting Caerula's Memory, what happens if I trade it after, at a fortutous encounter?

[vernal lion]

thanks for the tip

20s, 70s left

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah 70s possible, my hand just sweaty lmao

[vernal lion]

you can't trade it

[jovial nest]

you cant

wait you can?

it's not a trade

you still have the relic

i mean its the reason it powers up Safety Suit, Flashing Swords

and Arbor is a nice combo to go with it

you cannot trade off "map" relics

you can only trade off combat relics

that ain't Survivor

wait

can you trade Survivor?

i've never even considered it was on the list of choices

but i do know i phased it out of my brain cause it's stupid

[vernal lion]

it's ending 4 relic

[jovial nest]

I'm asking if you can trade Survivor

[vernal lion]

which one is Survivor

[jovial nest]

MOM

[vernal lion]

yea you can trade it

iirc you can't trade any cursed relic

[jovial nest]

its simple

if its a relic that affects endings or resources

it cannot be traded

if its purely combat and non-ending related, its tradeable

is it a cursed curio that came from the usual F3 start high diff? tradeable even if it's non-combat

ok maybe not so simple

[vernal lion]

no need high diff lol, starting from d2 you will get cursed relic which is very annoying tho

[jovial nest]

i don't remember d2 being that modifier

you mean the tavern encounter that gives you low rarity relics but might also be a low chance of a cursed curio?

cause that one's purely encounter-based

[jovial nest]

wow it starts that early

HAHAHAHA

and RES buff immediately at D3

damn

thats brutal

[tall cairn]

Cursed relic never really affected much anyways.

It's just anabolism.

🚮

[vernal lion]

yea, but it will effect pretty much for high diff

[jovial nest]

Light loss curios can shit on your Ed4 relic

[glass monolith]

(Shall we tell him about 2-3 enemy speed ups and another RES 10 afterwards?)

[jovial nest]

"speed-up" what?

oh

movement speed

yeah

[glass monolith]

[tall cairn]

Yes but, ~~if you don't get the encounter anyways. ~~

[jovial nest]

that was considered a "spike"

nah

the only real spike is D14 -> D15

huge amt of stats inflation

Elite enemies become almost boss-like

[tall cairn]

Then get anabolism and now you're playing D16

Ridiculous amount of tank.

[jovial nest]

Breogan feels a bit shit ngl

[glass monolith]

Dark souls 1 mode activated (It had endurance test of HP levels on bosses )

[jovial nest]

it has made some map starts really fucking rough

[tall cairn]

Endless life exists as well.

[jovial nest]

only matters if you're doing Ed4

imo

i meant the -Light per fight

[tall cairn]

-light eh.

I think it matters more ed3.

[jovial nest]

endless life only ever matters if it's Meta

[vernal lion]

70% I got that shit

[tall cairn]

Can't get the ed3 ending if lower than 20 light.

[dark glade]

-light on ed3 is garbo

[jovial nest]

oh i forgot Caerula Animus needs at least 20

[tall cairn]

[jovial nest]

[dark glade]

Why the last encounter even need light

Its bs

[tall cairn]

Stupid af.

[vernal lion]

[jovial nest]

it just means you've stalled and leaked badly with Bishop Research

skeel issue

[tall cairn]

Reach F5 and now you realise you're playing Highmore again.

Lazy play so reset.

[jovial nest]

ummm what?

unless it's Ed2, of course it's highmore

unless you're saying you've run out of encounter nodes

[tall cairn]

yeah, no encounters or lack of light.

gg go next.

[vernal lion]

[tall cairn]

Super frustrating.

[jovial nest]

whoever goes TLK -> Ed3/4, fucking chad

[jovial nest]

look at this guy. Can't even trade or enter WiW

[tall cairn]

TLK is another one, manage to escort knight, but can't stall the guy.

gg.

[vernal lion]

I'm still doing my challenge

[tall cairn]

[vernal lion]

and getting stucked at d11

[jovial nest]

all those tech trees add a lot of stat buffs to operators

and of course starting ingots and way to increase HP

[vernal lion]

yea I know, it's 20%

I'm just luck issue

[celest solstice]

this is good enough right?

[vernal lion]

I wonder if they can survive Eblana's burst dmg

because it's 2.2k arts dmg

[celest solstice]

mudrock and penance will be fineeee

[glass monolith]

Mizuki will refuse to dodge all 3 instance of damage and die

[celest solstice]

itll be fineeee

trust

[vernal lion]

yea they will be fine

until the medic is died

[celest solstice]

I have 2 bait for a reason

[vernal lion]

1 bait will always go to the blocker

so is Penance

[celest solstice]

cant I just bait em?

[atomic monolith]

Anyone worth building for no gacha account

[scarlet ledge]

that was fun @vernal lion

[vernal lion]

do you know how the boss work

[celest solstice]

no

[vernal lion]

she prio 2 last deploy op

but Saria is already a blocker, so she will prio her, and 1 additional target, which is Mudrock because she's the last deploy op in that gif

[glass monolith]

(Or because she is pepega and can't reach Berry with range 2 )

[vernal lion]

she has 2-tile attack range

which will not reach the 2x3 tile, unless she gets blocked

[celest solstice]

So I CAN just deploy my 2 specialists

[vernal lion]

just try it lol

it's your choice, until you find out

[glass monolith]

Well he can be smart. Or be me who dropped Texas into her skill then brain lagged for 10 seconds

[scarlet fulcrum]

Actually sweaty hand, maybe because 30fps phone

Oh wait this one

Funny number atleast

[vernal lion]

the least favorite F3 stage

[jovial nest]

very

especially when healing is potentially weak

by that point you might have an operator not worth using the tile or enough healing to sustain them

[scarlet mortar]

mzk Ymod gang wya

[celest solstice]

idk what happened, but something happened

[vernal lion]

just let it happen

[celest solstice]

Im just recovering dp at this point

something exploded

[vernal lion]

caster explodes and burns the reed around it after defeated

[glass monolith]

Not like much changed because everything will be on fire when you kill boss anyway

You just speed up fate

[vernal lion]

[jovial nest]

keeping the reeds from burning is kinda dead anyways. IIRC one of the phase transitions of Eblana is burning the entire map

[glass monolith]

And Eblana event medal to god damn unburn them afterwards

[jovial nest]

yep

save some reeds from it

before map ends

[vernal lion]

there is reed on those undeployment tiles, which is impossible to extinguish the fire completely, so you can just let it happen
it just matters about if your strat is good enough or not

[vernal lion]

and I saw that's a no for you lol

[jovial nest]

don't bother abusing the invis factor of the reeds. There's too many jeeps and soon, it'll all be caught on fire anyways

[vernal lion]

the reed in here is just your frienemy anyway

[celest solstice]

victoryyy

[vernal lion]

good

now just don't leak the last 2

[celest solstice]

they died

more orundum for eyjalter

[vernal lion]

imagine if there's no skip ticket funtion and you still need to auto this anni

[celest solstice]

I do have to auto the anni

HAHAHHAHA

[vernal lion]

very scuffed auto indeed

[celest solstice]

I somehow choked at 180?

[glass monolith]

Challenge to x6 auto the Anni when we get the function

[vernal lion]

because 150-200 is caster rush which makes them more dangerous

[celest solstice]

which anni should I do, anni 3 or that anni?

[vernal lion]

use skip ticket for current anni

because it saves sanity

[celest solstice]

I just came back, I dont have any tickets

ah right I also borrowed mlynar

my mlynar is still e1 80

[jovial nest]

yeah try to prio his E2

it's a huge damage spike

just from getting S3 alone

[celest solstice]

well I will, Im just waiting for tomorrow to come so I can get more guard chippies

I already have 2, I just need 6 more

[spark sinew]

i would rather farm event tbh

that said i didn't scroll back enough to see your roster, maybe you'll suffer on ex 8/s stages (probably not)

yato blaze mud eyja, you're fine

[celest solstice]

I have more

I can show all my 6s if you want

[spark sinew]

even less point in farming chips over just farming event

[celest solstice]

Farm chips afterwards instead Im assuming

how longs the event anyways

[spark sinew]

not yet, maybe if you'll have problems with maps i don't really get impressed by people's collections nowadays

event is 3 weeks

which is... yeah, fairly long

[celest solstice]

when did it start?

[spark sinew]

3 days ago ish?

[celest solstice]

so I have 18 days or 18 pulls, nubbad

[spark sinew]

event banner is 14 days

[celest solstice]

oh

thats not bad

I mean thats bad

[tidal sedge]

Hey guys, I'm dying on SL-1 and this is my loadout

[glass monolith]

You need to shoot sheep from high ground tiles directly adjusted to fountain to apply white smoke for increased damage, break bottles so spawn white smoke below defenders to give them damage reduction

[spark sinew]

would breaking bottles even work

[tidal sedge]

So I just use ranged op to kill them?

[spark sinew]

they're fairly tanky

[glass monolith]

Well you can't tell kroos to headshot beagle, right WR lore?

[glass monolith]

Well we have option to take same damage as always, 4 times less damage, or 75% more. Who cares for sheep, we can't kill if we don't stall it till it die

[spark sinew]

you could try to shoot sheep, wait for it to cross the tile and deploy defender

and catch the leak with mel or smth

probably too complicated of a strat for no payoff

[tidal sedge]

Well I'm confused

[spark sinew]

listen to Minus if we give you conflicting info

[tidal sedge]

Wha

[glass monolith]

That's is last thing to do when there is conflict

[tidal sedge]

So I put the op on white smoke?

[glass monolith]

Event mechanic

White smoke = enemy take more damage, we take 4 times less

Purple smoke = reversed

When sheep die it spawn purple smoke on its location

[spark sinew]

just had a cursed idea can shaw push sheep, surely

[tidal sedge]

So I use the bottle to get back the normal smoke

[glass monolith]

Bottle spawn while smoke on itself and 4 adjusted tiles if possible
Ranged attackers next to Gayser (water looking tiles) spawn white smoke when attacking ground sheep on tile of that sheep

[merry narwhal]

Ranged auto attacks next to a geysir also apply white smoke so the bottles are just for the boss to pop one star ig

[tidal sedge]

So.. at start what should I put?

[glass monolith]

Almost entire first stage are sheeps on top

[tidal sedge]

Also what are doing the sheeps on the top far right?

What happens if I put a op on the white smoke, do they get a damage increase?

[glass monolith]

you can leave some sniper on middle look right to attack them i guess, so you don't get 7 sheep at once in end

[tidal sedge]

Oh ok

And... how I deal with the spam of sheeps?

[glass monolith]

Moar defenders

[tidal sedge]

Vanguards are recommended or... they will die like 5 or 4 hits

[scarlet mortar]

#strategy message

defender
bottom text

[glass monolith]

How much def those sheeps even have?

[scarlet mortar]

friston broken (real)

150 def

i.e. nonexistent

[glass monolith]

Quartz armored sheep

[tender prawn]

whats the optimal siestan fashion st strat now?

[glass monolith]

We never recall stage by their names, there is over 500 of them How it shows on map

[vernal lion]

it's mini game by Snowsant

[celest bluff]

You keep clicking next

No brain required

Or just sell lower price than your opponent but sell at higher volume

[glass monolith]

Yea i think even if you F up good you still make some income from it which over days will sum up

[scarlet mortar]

tldr

1. see which item has the most buyers
2. undercut the competition on that one
3. profit

[glass monolith]

I brought mid and sold all, got second place reward (+2k). Opponent brought high and sold all, got first place reward (+5k).
I did math and if roles were reversed I would gain only 100 more because loses on paying to buy high

[scarlet mortar]

the goal is basically always to sell all

it just depends how hard you want to ratio the others while doing so

also you kinda only have two categories to worry abt since gifts will carry over to the next day

[vernal lion]

• Drink and Food, you choose Radical
• Gift, you scout your opponent then choose the same strategy
• to the selling, both Drink and Food you scout for only 1 time, then choose the price which is lower then their price (example if their price is 3, you choose 2).
  (If you don't care about high profit, just choose the minimum price, but then most customers will buy out only Food and Drink while Gift is the highest profit here so the number of customers will be decreased due to selling)
• for Gift, you also scout, then choose price lower than them 1 value like above

[vernal lion]

btw because we have only 4 scout times, while later we will get more (5-6 times) due to high selling, you can just use scout for selling

[celest bluff]

Radical buy the hottest item unless it is gift

[vernal lion]

why are you still day 3

[scarlet mortar]

stonk

[celest bluff]

Let say I missed the first day

Yeah just make sure you sell all the item

[vernal lion]

you will, but just sell the minimum price

[celest bluff]

Damn I wish I can make this much profit irl

[vernal lion]

yea, spend out x1, get back x3

that can be rich too

[atomic monolith]

Who should be next to e2?

No gacha account

[vernal lion]

isn't La Pluma gacha?

oh wait she's in mail

[glass monolith]

Since when gacha free challengers accept tickets for free gacha character

[cosmic thicket]

it's no gacha lite

[vernal lion]

La Pluma is pretty good

also Specter

Insider can be good to kill ranged enemy with his prio from s2

yea those 3 are good to go first

[celest bluff]

Should I e2 those

[vernal lion]

yes

[celest bluff]

Just pulled proviso

[vernal lion]

proviso is just gold eater

I still like Sham Teq Bibeak combo

[glass monolith]

I run both.... I have to drone gold factory

[jovial nest]

You run both.

[spark sinew]

proviso is not just a gold eater

it's like saying that every good combo is "just a bigger gold eater"

[vernal lion]

yea, she just makes gold disappear faster

with same cost

[spark sinew]

if you can make yourself e2 silence alter she's better

[celest bluff]

But the benefit?

[red cosmos]

So, with eyja alter p5 + S3M3 you can get a 40% max hp buff on all operators in range?

[spark sinew]

otherwise it's just 90% combo so ehh

[vernal lion]

faster

[spark sinew]

imagine 100% eff trading post

would you swap it for 200% eff trading post

that's proviso

[celest bluff]

Would

[spark sinew]

exactly

[vernal lion]

why are you out of gold when it's just 1st week of the month

btw I'm out of EXP now

[celest bluff]

90% factory is pretty good for me

[grand ginkgo]

it sucks when competitor sells at the lowest price

[molten osprey]

whas a good team

[celest bluff]

Are you new

[spark sinew]

what gave it away

[spark sinew]

4 days newer than me, damn

[celest bluff]

I'm not qualified enough to help new players

[tall cairn]

~~ So is 99% of #help ~~

[spark sinew]

probably lowballing

[celest bluff]

"from: hauckindu
41917 results "

[tall cairn]

True.

[spark sinew]

some people seem to intentionally give bad advice

[spark sinew]

i chat a lot

[tall cairn]

Prolific.

10k per day.

[lapis hornet]

damn joined at the same time as me

we can learn together 😊

[tall cairn]

[spark sinew]

just play the game, you can ignore leveling for now even

matterhorn earthspirit hibiscus are probably not worth leveling at all (at least until you know more about the game)

[molten osprey]

ok thanks

[spark sinew]

feel free to ask if you have problems with particular stages/mechanics/whatever

[celest bluff]

Das conkreat baby

[dry night]

how do i beat this one

[celest bluff]

Roadblock here

[jovial nest]

based on experience

can you roadblock the space behind Blaze

i mean after the sheep gets its partner?

[surreal star]

it took me so long to figure out you can roadblock the tile behind mountain

[celest bluff]

Hmm

[jovial nest]

cause i remember roadblocking Blaze's front

[celest bluff]

I didn't tried that

[jovial nest]

and that made the sheep go to Blaze

[spark sinew]

you don't need blocks around humus and blaze

[jovial nest]

i still cleared

just not a "clean win"

not a perfect win

[spark sinew]

you only need 2 blocks

[celest bluff]

Just help that poor soul quick can't you guys

[spark sinew]

.

[vernal lion]

1. 1st soda in front of Mountain, 1st roadblock between the house and the white van
2. 2nd roadblock behind Mountain, switch Mountain s2 on, 2nd soda in Ifrit lane and below the helicopter sheep
3. 3rd soda in Humus attack range, final soda in 2 tiles to the left of Blaze

[jovial nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1197161725141733508/image.png?ex=65ba42bd&is=65a7cdbd&hm=e4099dc48ed8a73b3d41d0d8844868931517cdec546159bf9c33cdbff9d40832&

pink cloud behind Blaze

a clear...

but IMPERFECTION

[celest bluff]

Man

Having blaze would be nice

[jovial nest]

not really

i mean sure, just use what you like'

but she ain't exactly close to even the tops these days

just...convenient AFK

[celest bluff]

Is it me or we have more Feline than anyother races

[jovial nest]

i only see what i use

[vernal lion]

[jovial nest]

and felines aren't common

So I'm guessing

i placed the block too late

i have to place the 3rd and 4th block way before the sheep spawns

[celest bluff]

Mandela effects be like

[vernal lion]

let me try again, if I can only use 3 roadblocks to beat it without killing any sheep

[jovial nest]

i mean

thats basically what mine is

cause that sheep ignored Blaze's roadblock

and went straight for her ass

[spark sinew]

you need 2 blocks only (unless you want to "properly" beat it)

[vernal lion]

3 roadblocks, baby

[nimble sierra]

Anyone found interesting tech or reasons to raise swire?

[spark sinew]

nope
she doesn't really have anything cool from what i know

[polar crane]

-640 dp is pretty cool ig

[spark sinew]

when im on mobile and i see onion
i thank the god for no pfp mode on desktop
only usable in anni though

[vernal lion]

s3 is fun to play tho

[spark sinew]

the force is kinda crappy

ig it's still doublehit merchant but like..

[vernal lion]

well she's NOT a pusher or puller tho

btw the range to use s3 is 2 tiles from her

me, when I search for random:

[spark sinew]

sure, but it's her unique gimmick on s3 i thought
if you wanted dps merchant you could just used jaye

[vernal lion]

if you think they will give her push with force 2 or 3, then I think she will powercreep all the pushers tho

because it's just only 5s

[nimble sierra]

She could have had a force two at least...then she would be usable....it's phatom S3 all over again

[celest bluff]

There was this sargon CC map with a cool ass bgm

But I can't remember which map that is

[nimble sierra]

If she had some buff evertime she respawned it would have been such a cool concept. Like 10% atk and hp for every "death"

Up to a cap of course

So effectively paying dp to let her die and get stronger

[vernal lion]

Long Spring Wastes

[celest bluff]

CC

[nimble sierra]

But sadly hg didn't capitalise on her respawn concept enough

[celest bluff]

Not annihilation

[vernal lion]

so CC6

[nimble sierra]

Scales or something

[celest bluff]

Hmmm

[nimble sierra]

Wild scales

[vernal lion]

yes

[nimble sierra]

I remember that one

Stupid brawler crocs

Malding with mudrock when I didn't have kalt to deal with the duelists

And when chalter was still the queen of dps

[celest bluff]

https://youtu.be/ekWgnaSCWco?si=7zC2P3c2vcgzn2Uz

Found it

[vernal lion]

actually it's coop theme

coop theme 1 ost

there is coop theme 2 too

[celest bluff]

Hmm

[vernal lion]

I find Swalter s3 is much better than s2 and s1

the double hit is just too good

[tall sierra]

I been wondering bout this event

Boss doesnt hit hard but it burst come from elemental dmg?

[vernal lion]

yea, you should scare of Burn dmg

it's 1200 arts dmg, and with most enemies that use arts dmg,
it stacks with even more arts dmg just to instant kill your op from 1 burst

[tall sierra]

I see

No wonder i see my mylnar almost die on my sl8 auto

[spark sinew]

are you not using any healing at all

mly has 4.2k hp

[vernal lion]

oh wait, she can throw knives within this plus-shaped range lol

[nimble sierra]

Hmmm

Any recommendations for a 6 star to raise?

[spark sinew]

base included?

pallas is BiS

[nimble sierra]

I have everyone else important raised so just looking some fun but resources are too low to level all....

[spark sinew]

ceobe is the best unit out of those

[nimble sierra]

Hmmm Pallas base? Haven't checked it out

[spark sinew]

that's actually relevant

[nimble sierra]

Yeah I figured it was ceobe or ebonhols

[spark sinew]

mizuki is probably second one, but way below ceobe

[nimble sierra]

But ebon has module later

I mean ceobe module functions by taking stupid amounts of defence risks on poo and not taking any res risks

But the pay off still is a bit questionable

[spark sinew]

ceobe module just functions

you don't need to cope CC specifically, defense creep is real

[nimble sierra]

Hmm imma watch more guides I guess.

I mean I have too much else that nullifies defence

And as a st caster she's been kinda meh for me

Just paralyzed for choice now I guess... Happy probelms

Anything from stupid kalt true DMG strats or debuffs and buffs works against defence for me....

On the fun scale swire looks interesting at first but her S2 is jusssst cutting it short....

[spark sinew]

trust me, ceobe is better

[nimble sierra]

Eeh true... Too used to brute forcing with chalter mylnar pozy and gang...

Speaking of pozy she's kinda fallen off

[vernal lion]

op these days

[spark sinew]

did she

feels fine to me

[vernal lion]

well, all her talents are just about her summon

so if you can't place her summon which means she's bad

[nimble sierra]

Hmm I guess I've been playing too much high ascension is

It's tipping my sense of whose balanced

[spark sinew]

pozy is insane in d15

[nimble sierra]

Glad it changed my opinion on Dorothy tho her S2 carried my runs

I preferred Chotgun and kokodayo^2 for my sniper recruits

[spark sinew]

that said for ed4 i don't draft her

but it's just izumik punishing ST

[nimble sierra]

I swear izmkfuck is so goddam annoying when your encounters don't line up

[spark sinew]

she does better than chotgun in every map but izumik

or comparably at least

[nimble sierra]

Immediately getting the last 2 back to back and getting forced onto hesitation is pein

[vernal lion]

well at d15, each of jellyfish is like 30k hp

and you kill fuck ton of it

[spark sinew]

TLK is arguable ig

depends on your strat

[nimble sierra]

Only beaten ed1 on asc15 so far

I don't think I'm ever getting to ed4

I'm probably gonna try all endings on all squads

Nearly there for is2

[spark sinew]

your squad probably tackles ed4

but zz

[nimble sierra]

I mean my squad could be anyone

Unless it requires a pot 2 I have it

[spark sinew]

clearly you don't have eben raised

[nimble sierra]

But laziness brainrot and potate fingers are my biggest enemies

Hence could not can hehe

Ebon seems fun but I'm just waiting for his delta module

[tidal sedge]

My account is new.

Should I buy one of the operator's contracts for 45? I'm just trying to get gr8 units.

I also can pop a x10 headhunt for 5 star on the events but I didn't want to waste it on a subpar 6*

Any ideas?

[polar crane]

dont buy 5 star in this shop

and dont get baited by the 10 pull 5 star guaranteed

most 5 star in this game suck

but you can pull on the current limited banner

[celest bluff]

6star is the talented first child (except for some)
5star is the forgotten middle child

[vernal lion]

4star is the adopted child

[celest bluff]

Except Myrtle

[spark sinew]

myrtle propaganda

[tidal sedge]

Why would I buy the limited banner 💀

I wanna understand the why 😭

[polar crane]

they give you free pull to pull

you can only spend on that banner so

1 free pull daily

and 10 pull you probably spent it by now

[tidal sedge]

So you want me to pull x10? (Ofc I'd do free pulls)

No I haven't

[hollow epoch]

If youre new build a ton of 3 and 4 stars to cover the shit you cant do right now

[tidal sedge]

Already doing that

[hollow epoch]

Only dont bother if you have a better 6 star option, emphasis on better

[polar crane]

go to the main lobby, top left you can claim that 10 pull

[hollow epoch]

Theres a ton of dogshit 6 stars out there including some whose niches arent even relevant to new players

[tidal sedge]

I'm just wondering if I should be pulling rn (I already claimed all the free stuff)

[tidal sedge]

Ofc

[halcyon adder]

See even hg thinks myrtle is best choice for beginners

[cosmic thicket]

no HG thinks it's profitable which it is

because people will not stop shilling myrtle even though she's far from the best 4*

[vernal lion]

the quickest DP generator fr

[cosmic thicket]

no the quickest DP generator is e1+ texas

[vernal lion]

[spark sinew]

quickest dp generator is stainless+puzzle isn't it

[cosmic thicket]

you can't beat literal instant DP start of stage

i learned this from shu

[spark sinew]

not talking about answers like that

[cosmic thicket]

oh

well yeah provided you have puzzle stainless up yeah

[spark sinew]

because then wildmane or zima are quickest in team of vang/guards

[glass monolith]

Fastest DP opener in Canta S2 opening and i will die on that hill

[celest bluff]

One small issue

Stainless is a 6star

[spark sinew]

one small skill issue indeed

just buy more pulls, HG wouldn't mind

[brave sun]

yeah quickest is actuallly p6ing every op

can't beat free DP before start of stage

[vernal lion]

so true

[spark sinew]

can keep some of them p5 👍

like some release opps or pass

gotta save those pulls

[celest bluff]

Texas: 2 extra dp

[normal flume]

honestly, i', still not quite sure how doecrative geysers work. my ops will only be affected by them if they are immediately perpendicular to it? can't do it diagnoally?

[celest bluff]

Nope

Not diagonally

You literally can

Click on the thing

To see the range

[glass monolith]

Also special animatio on tiles, and you can't spread smoke on those tiles at all

[celest bluff]

I need that oppenheimer emote

[normal flume]

and if i place my op on it, i know they get reduced damage from the sheep, but does their attack increase?

in view of that, let's say they kill a sheep and it realses the pink gas. will the boost from the geyser be negated if another sheep comes and is in the pink gas?

[glass monolith]

As soon as operator from geyser hit ship in smoke it will color white again

So smoke turn from permament menace to "until next attack" event, assuming you manage amount of BS so someone from geyser actually attack it

Would be suck if some sheep in back recolored tile and your snipers idk, attack drone sheep for next 3 minutes

[normal flume]

so if anyonesheep comes across whigte smoke it'll turn it pink?

[normal flume]

and my snipers/casters will just aim at the smoke? not in regaerds to the soda bottles?

[glass monolith]

Sheep itself not event which color tiles, sheep death will

[glass monolith]

Bottles have taunt, but snipers which attack drones first ignore taunts as long as they can fullfill their bloody drone needs

[normal flume]

i see, and only an op near a geyser can turn it white again?

[hollow epoch]

Except for sheep on sheep on skateboard, coolest enemy in the game

[glass monolith]

Menace for my SL-6 low op fast clear

[hollow epoch]

If youre trying to minimise pink smoke you should slap a high damage unit in front of the skateboard spawn

That said the sheep casters are so slow you basically have to spawncamp both spawns to clear fast

[spark sinew]

i wonder if any of s/ex stages will have them as well
as a main menace of the stage

maybe combined with those invisible enemies that look like blue mist

so HG can shill ines more

[hollow epoch]

I was originally quite pissed about rolling an ines offbanner on this limited but shes come into play like a magnitude of order higher than i expected

[glass monolith]

you forgot about BIG FELLAS who we seen like 3 times scuffed into same stage, also i heard red clouds are even worse

[normal flume]

@glass monolith making sure of this

[hollow epoch]

That or bottles

[glass monolith]

Or those invis spread smoke sheep on few stage

[hollow epoch]

Which big fellas?

Also theres more smoke types?

[celest bluff]

Big sheep: big chonker
Oh lads he's coming

[vernal lion]

conehead zombie sheep

[hollow epoch]

Whats their gimmick

[celest bluff]

The event is just sniperknight wet dream

[spark sinew]

i have a brainrot
i just want to drop texas there

probably clears it all anyway, despite the pink tiles

[vernal lion]

75% damage reduction: are you sure about that

[celest bluff]

Probably

Alright skalter
S3 please

[hollow epoch]

I mean exalter and other emnities have also gotten shilled imo since they dont need healers that potentially hog fountain space and the only enabling they need is just a bottle in front of them

[spark sinew]

if you're going into it blind they kinda suffer despite bottles

or maybe i suck

[glass monolith]

Happy Astgenne sounds

[hollow epoch]

Especially since the stages seem so comfortable tossing normal coneheads (read: healing sources) to the ops