strategy

[tropic valve]

Pozy may be a smidge better due to skill total damage

although relics can sometimes shift that the other way

[wicked viper]

sure but non-schwarz strat work better no?

[jovial nest]

I only would consider Schwarz superiority in ed3, and if you really need to DPS TLK that hard

[ivory nimbus]

How the hell am I supposed to beat Dolly?

[latent monolith]

That is fair but like you can also just not start with nothing

[tropic valve]

the 3 best DPS here are Schwarz, Pozy, NTRK, and they are all very similar in damage where you could swap them willy-nilly

[wicked viper]

ya still need whatever support for schwarz to properly function

[tropic valve]

the next best is Mlynar but he's noticeably a bit weaker than the other 3

finally, Izu'mik

[jovial nest]

Did you do 2nd tutorial and read enemy desc?

[ivory nimbus]

Yep.

[tropic valve]

here Schwarz is the 2nd best Sniper after Chalter like I've said

[spark sinew]

i heard from a certain green name that provence is among top dps for isharmala

[jovial nest]

Then you should know...

[tropic valve]

the boss has 2760 DEF and the jellyfish have 2000 DEF

[spark sinew]

but i might be misremembering

[tropic valve]

in theory yes

if you can set up Provence in time

but 0 initial SP and 30 DP cost

[ivory nimbus]

Just couldn't pop enough soda and dps, that's the problem.

[wicked viper]

dolly has 150 shield, each hit reduce 2 shield and breaking bottle reduce 50 shield
so ya keep attacking him for him to fall down, then burst dmg

[jovial nest]

Lacking in damage then?

[wicked viper]

art may work better for newbie since dolly has like 600 def 60 res

[jovial nest]

You could borrow if you dont plan to farm SL8

[wicked viper]

SL-8 is manganse

[jovial nest]

Yeah and not everyone needs it

[wicked viper]

it's fairly important and no upcoming manganese farm tho

[jovial nest]

Like me still rocking 120+

[wicked viper]

eh

[south bone]

you're not a newbie tho

[wicked viper]

if they already have a huge stocks, they wouldn't struggle SL-8

[jovial nest]

Newbies farm what they need

Not stockpile

[wicked viper]

and manganese is what they need

[jovial nest]

They need to rush e2 ops

[glass monolith]

Game over man, game over

[wicked viper]

newbie need far more managese than aketon and crystal

[tropic valve]

and yes, @wicked viper it is true that Schwarz needs more expenses than Pozy: 2 modules 2 masteries compared to 1 module 1 mastery, but considering Schwarz does so much heavy lifting that you can straight up not draft other 6*, I think that's pretty worth the cost

[spark sinew]

how long it's been since you were a newbie jusan

[vernal lion]

I just used like 100 manganse since SN rerun, now only have 60 left tho

[jovial nest]

3 years but i know what made those early months easier. Specifically farm e2 mats

And sl7 mats

[wicked viper]

i think it can work but ya need different strat

like

some slow prob for thorns to attack him

[tropic valve]

do you have Archetto?

[ivory nimbus]

Nope.

[wicked viper]

IS3 is a one time thing

[jovial nest]

What you see is what they have

[wicked viper]

no one play IS3 on daily basis

[jovial nest]

That also means lack of exp and lmd

[tropic valve]

I do

I have IS3 brainrot

[tall cairn]

is2 is also a thing.

[wicked viper]

good for you

but not other people

[tropic valve]

and that's fine

[jovial nest]

But it can be returned heh. Degen in IS3 heh

[tropic valve]

they are valid in their decision not to play IS3

[jovial nest]

Global didnt get the chances

To use Eureka on IS3

[tropic valve]

I just really, really like D15

[jovial nest]

The horror!

[wicked viper]

they don't need to invest a huge resource on a gamemode specific units that they won't use later

[spark sinew]

oh yeah how's ray in is4

did she displace typhon

[wicked viper]

i heard she is good for IS4, not as a start tho

[jovial nest]

UnclePtilo says she's solid but hard to use

[spark sinew]

since she even has a bind

[wicked viper]

i think ya can ask tsunderekermit ig

[jovial nest]

Must be the mobs and prio targeting

[deep prairie]

If i get 2 stars i still get normal drop rate for material, right? My autodeploy got fucked cuz of gg drones rng

[jovial nest]

She lacks a prio target portion so a mob can make her damage disperse to weak trash

[tidal sedge]

No. You get reduced rewards

[wicked viper]

2* has less drop ya

[tropic valve]

you could borrow an Archetto and try something like this: https://youtu.be/3xt-EXFFl0w?si=zVNr0EVT6zlNX_QB

[deep prairie]

Fml

[ivory nimbus]

Oh, I haven't use Earthspirit in a long while now, maybe it's time to bust her out again.

[wicked viper]

wouldn't it be easier to just

borrow texalt

[tropic valve]

usually I would say borrow Schwarz, but in this case Archetto is doing more

[latent monolith]

Even if people have to play IS3 they don't have to do d15

[jovial nest]

Its easier for a newbie to use archetto

[latent monolith]

D7 is the same rewards

[wicked viper]

i wouldn't suggest schwarz who hit slow af

[tropic valve]

fair

[jovial nest]

Trust me it aint newbie friendly to soda FRD

[latent monolith]

And hell they can do d0

[tropic valve]

and I have never, ever disparaged anyone for not playing D15 (feel free to check my entire comment history)

[jovial nest]

D0 is any-meta anyways

[tropic valve]

but if I show someone a strat at D15, then clearly that strat works for all D, so it's convenient

[wicked viper]

then they don't need to raise schwarz to play IS3 in the first place

[jovial nest]

Only do that for guys who will do d15

[wicked viper]

so sugesting IS3 will be a waste of resource if they already have pozy

or ray in the future

[tropic valve]

also quite a few people have aspirations of beating D15 at least one time, even if they don't want to do it regularly

[wicked viper]

D15 is easy now

[tropic valve]

I really don't think raising anyone is a waste, much less raising someone who carries D15

[wicked viper]

because mind over matter

it's a waste when schwarz take more investment than other carry tho?

[tropic valve]

like even if I think Thorns is kinda meh

[spark sinew]

mom doesn't make it that much easier to ed1 i feel

[tropic valve]

I'm not gonna tell people raising Thorns is a waste

[spark sinew]

flashing swords are fucking broken tho

[jovial nest]

He is...

[tropic valve]

yeah MoM isn't as consistent as other squads imo

[jovial nest]

Well, he is for harder content

The fall off is real

[latent monolith]

I'm not a big fan of light as a mechanic, in IS3 it just sucks

[jovial nest]

Survivor is rng but it makes up for lack of good relic dps

[latent monolith]

I heard IS4 has a better version

[wicked viper]

thorns is still used in far more content than schwarz

[jovial nest]

It carries runs

[wicked viper]

and thorns required far less resource

[tropic valve]

right, which just goes to show how frequency of use isn't that important a metric

[wicked viper]

again

[tropic valve]

anyways I need to sleep now

[jovial nest]

what part of Thorns is less resource?

[wicked viper]

ya wouldn't suggest raising some niche units for obscure content for general content

[latent monolith]

And it's my main gripe with going for high diff IS3 personally, having a debuff that just bricks your run is

[tropic valve]

been fun chatting with y'all

[wicked viper]

schwarz need m6 and mod6

thorns need m3 to work

[jovial nest]

what content is this?

D15?

[wicked viper]

because we are still within the context of raising X for Y content no?

if they have thorns they can still raise thorns to clear anni or similar

while schwarz is eh

[spark sinew]

just reroll metastatic 👍 or die because it's metastatic
others are mostly whatever honestly

[jovial nest]

if its d15, Thorns wouldnt even be on the picture

[wicked viper]

need at least module to function

[jovial nest]

if it's D0, Schwarz wouldn't even be on the picture

[vernal lion]

day 15 in RA

[tropic valve]

@jovial nest
https://youtu.be/gFLawmt4rMc
https://youtu.be/_jnMyVBKYfg
https://youtu.be/m3rFPFOkZMs
not sure if you already saw these, these were my runs in Mizuki Cup (up to semifinals), the rest of semifinals and finals must be on bilibili, can try to search again sometime

[glass monolith]

Seconds per frame gaming

[latent monolith]

Reed anni reminded me how bad fps can get

[jovial nest]

hahaha, no issues here

[spark sinew]

is ashlock bad enough for regular player to not consider raising her?

[wicked viper]

i think ashlock should be better after module

cuz now

she hits like 1.3k

[glass monolith]

During RA ending 3 fight i had to play on x1, because on x2 i was skipping like 7-8 frames

[wicked viper]

not enough to break through def

but mod3 is like 1.7k something

it's much better

personally i find firewhistle easier to use

since she can still block and afk s1

like

if talking about pure strength

ashlock is stronger

but firewhistle is more comfy to use

and ashlock should be more similar to horn in term of s1

which is the main reason they use fortress for really

for horn substitute

[spark sinew]

i probably should cut tequila bibeak at least
seems good 🤔

baseknights

[wicked viper]

oh for base

[vernal lion]

Ashlock refer for ranged attack, while Firewhistle balance between melee attack and ranged attack

[scarlet ledge]

wtf bryo raise

[spark sinew]

well it's for squad but i probably should use the stuff that people might use unironically

[vernal lion]

and Horn just does both jobs in edge

[jovial nest]

pls give them at least lvl 30...

[wicked viper]

ashlock 0 block can screw her up sometimes

[scarlet ledge]

just ur issue

[vernal lion]

same as Flint

[scarlet ledge]

time skill better

[wicked viper]

for flint at least she has slow ya

[spark sinew]

only reason vulcan and kafka ain't e2 1 is because i couldn't clear their paradoxes

[jovial nest]

were they SL7?

[spark sinew]

sl1

[jovial nest]

no fucking wonder

SL7 carries more than the stats

[spark sinew]

i figured exp and lmd are cheaper than this

hey, snowsant clears at sl1

[jovial nest]

there will be some

but i reckon

why not give every e2 i have

e2 40 sl7

just so they're usable in a worthwhile degree

[wicked viper]

because upgrading skill level is not something ya do for base slaves

[jovial nest]

They're coworkers!

[spark sinew]

units that i use are mostly raised

ut they're also good enough to not make the cut for this team

[jovial nest]

there will always be excess resource

[tropic valve]

actually one last thing before I conk out: if anyone here wants a handhold in D15 with Schwarz, I'd be happy to hop onto vc and do a handhold sometime (not today though), any ending, or even multiple endings together, always happy to share my strats

[jovial nest]

and thats where some of them go

[spark sinew]

i would be laughed out if i bring those for example this is higher power level than 5* already

[vernal lion]

POV: he's playing Fallout Shelter in Arknights

[wicked viper]

indeed

mlynar is OP fr

basically the overseer

[spark sinew]

raising mlynar for base

leaving him sl1

too trash to bring into combat

doesn't even block 🚮

[glass monolith]

Nah.... It is impossible to exist 1 minute without conflict in Fallout Shelter

[jovial nest]

I take pride in anyone that's hit E2 will get 40, and anyone that hits E1 gets SL7 and capped.

[spark sinew]

and how often do you use your e1 units

[jovial nest]

need to take care of my coworkers even if it takes a long while for everyone to get their benefits

doesn't matter. I raise everyone.

thats already been established

I plan on E2ing the E1's in the future

[spark sinew]

there are no benefits

we're dictatorship

[jovial nest]

there's excess resources

and i'm willing to share

[spark sinew]

excess resources are for us to hoard

to maybe spend later

[jovial nest]

This is becoming a game of Civilization with me and Hauc

[vernal lion]

the anni map is like civi ngl

[jovial nest]

not challenging enough

I want a Hortus anni

[tall cairn]

Damn Schwarz handhold offer.

[vernal lion]

imagine you can only farm anni once a day, and everyday the anni just changes to another one

[jovial nest]

that'd be boring if you're a late game player. And a hassle if you're a new player

[vernal lion]

and if you don't farm anni, you will lose orundum

[tall cairn]

🚮

[jovial nest]

the only reason anni is even relevant is orundum

it is the WEAKEST game mode ever

[tall cairn]

Never cook again.

[jovial nest]

even SSS is more fun

than anni

[wicked viper]

anni has the issue where if ya fail at mid way or near the end

[vernal lion]

anni is just afk

[wicked viper]

ya have to restart the stage for 10 minutes

[jovial nest]

anni is a snorefest in 0-350

[wicked viper]

10 minutes per attempt

well IS is like an hour per attempt

[vernal lion]

old anni still tests you if your auto is balance or not

nowaday just skip ticket lol

[jovial nest]

old anni was just AFK check

Once I get my Degen

I will revisit a LOT of normal content

and burn some practice plans

[vernal lion]

afk in anni 3 is still an issue

[jovial nest]

to play some boss maps

i wanna see how my squad does on most content

[vernal lion]

Degen when every other op trying to babysit her so she can keeps using skill without dying

[jovial nest]

Heh and I have like 3-4 boss killers in my squad.

depending if i go hard on changing some of my squads' default into a more boss-killing setup

[glass monolith]

Meanwhile me counting how many buffs i can apply to Kroos alter before i start feeling bad for boss

[jovial nest]

Also me still being one of the few people who like Hoed's unique gameplay advantages

I like his potential for being one of the best arts/true damage tanks and also boss dueling those types

and then if the boss with high damage has higher ASPD and is physical

I could just use Saria instead and then make Hoederer be on her back

[limpid siren]

What is a boss killer anyway

[jovial nest]

while Hoed looks away

so he gives Shelter to Saria's already sturdy ass

[jovial nest]

Subjectively based on how the player wants to kill the boss

thats really part of the fun

is to see how differnt players prefer to kill bosses

[glass monolith]

If it kills boss it is boss killer. And yes i seen Myrtle "solo" Patriot video

[spark sinew]

bryo is a bosskiller

use him in ch1

[jovial nest]

I just like to have a lot of backups in boss-killing DPS and have some good alternate skill usage that can add buffs or debuffs or more boss killing DPS rather than use the usual default.

[glass monolith]

Also there was Justice Knight soloing Black Knight video

[limpid siren]

what is a different player anyway

[jovial nest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648597785444220941/1185835066111315978/docdistort.gif?ex=65910df7&is=657e98f7&hm=25b8de5d36db7b8aa9bb48c7e8feaad813a93f7c60c1b771a1c8518fa083d0e4&

either way

I'm the few

who would like to tank and duel with a boss that you shouldn't bother tanking

even if it means cycling bodies

but thats why i went with Saria + Hoed on my squad

[glass monolith]

COUGH #strategy message

[limpid siren]

if that's the case

do you have any boss killers

or is boss killing incidental

[jovial nest]

Hoederer's senpai showing off who's the first Crusher!

[glass monolith]

Funny part is - I don't care for Hoederer. But i need that Vendeta medic

[jovial nest]

the ch13 trailer pv?

i love that song

[glass monolith]

Which based on past Ashlock accident will give me Hoederer

[jovial nest]

that drop when it shows Hoed's chest

[tidal sedge]

Igneus, did you get Poncirus?

[lethal dragon]

Boss killers are the friends we made along the way

[limpid siren]

a singular copy

tragic banner

[tidal sedge]

[jovial nest]

my very first boss killer is....Blue Poison

just S2ing SS

[lethal dragon]

Roll and buy

[glass monolith]

Power of friendship... And about 30 stacks on Survival contract

[lethal dragon]

Don't let the rng beat you

[spark sinew]

30 stacks is insane

i think my usual runs had like 23

[tidal sedge]

I'll be looking forward to your thoughts on her at least. Whenever she becomes usable for you. I'm waiting on trust

[glass monolith]

During D12 i went into Wonderland for 3 more stacks

[lethal dragon]

I mostly get 18 ~ 20
Well I haven't played is much after expansion

[limpid siren]

i think she's better than most people think, but worse than some 5* players think

[spark sinew]

actually the yato solo one had 18 apparently

[limpid siren]

for me she does exactly what i want though

for my blind squads

in that she's a fat sack of hp and def

with 2 block

[spark sinew]

unless contract counts something else behind battles+elites+bosses

[glass monolith]

i called 30 mostly randomly, i always forget to check how much stacks i have

[tidal sedge]

For me I see possible flaws in her kit but it's not what most folks like to pick at

and I'm interested in if I'm right or not

[jovial nest]

I have yet to do D15 WiW

and i am curious but don't have the time to do so

especially since WiW doesn't exactly appear in every run

[tidal sedge]

But I also find the idea of her kit very neat

[jovial nest]

anyways

there were multiple talks in cn lounge and is station about my favorite topic (that i started)....

Floor 3 WiW Gravestone D15

is it possible?

[tidal sedge]

Ebentron should work if you assemble it

[spark sinew]

possible, but very improbable

no boss relics so you probably cope for good squad and flashing swords?

[limpid siren]

what flaws do you see

[tidal sedge]

Her vulnerability period prior to s2 becoming infinite, and her dp gen pre-infinite also being notably slower than the other 5* pioneers being a potential problem in tighter circumstances

Her post-infinite dp gen is gravy to my eyes and idk why it's a common sticking point

[limpid siren]

that's what i've felt so far yea

once she hits the second activation, she is surprisingly hard to kill, which is nice for my lazy squads because it lets me keep a real brick in reserve

stalling is dp anyway

but at the same time, even if she survives what texas can't, she still requires dps help

which kind of forces her to be the anchor point for her lane

this isn't a real problem, but any dps you lend her is stuck there, which means the potential next blocker is probably stuck there too

but this is all in my blind squad

apparently she's okay in IS4, so i'm looking forward to that

but i think she'd be horrible in low op scenarios

[spark sinew]

how does your blind squad look like

[limpid siren]

today's flavour

[scarlet ledge]

yep @limpid siren @spark sinew

[limpid siren]

for me, a blind squad is just a balanced squad

[scarlet ledge]

[spark sinew]

hmm

[limpid siren]

something that can handle most threats without hiccups

[scarlet ledge]

what you doing igni

[limpid siren]

pro

just yapping

[scarlet ledge]

[limpid siren]

long day today

[scarlet ledge]

lemme see if auto works

[jovial nest]

My preferred philosophy is, boss killing is intentional. Killing the others....is incidental

[jovial nest]

reminds me so much on how Ines managed to become my D15 Pompeii/Big Bob killer

wait no....Ines killed Pompeii without survivor

hmmmm

[tidal sedge]

A mystic being in a blind squad is interesting. But Harmonie is more of an oddball among them.

[jovial nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1192042485380304896/image.png?ex=65b0dd93&is=659e6893&hm=1db9129ee27ff8149f732a7db90d55b638c666fcc2eb3da9b3203053936d6d80&

hahahah'

Galter strats

but its Ines

Ines carried so much of D15 for me

[tidal sedge]

I can kind of see why some folks called her a mystic caster for people who hate mystic casters. Though I don't fully agree with that idea

[spark sinew]

would you cut croissant for the upcoming guardian
although idk, maybe 5* actually need the tankiness that croiss provides?

[spark sinew]

i meant to quote this

[tidal sedge]

Actually I'm surprised to see no Pluma. Is she struggling with SL mobs?

[spark sinew]

exalter kinda struggles with sl mobs

when going in blind at least

probably just skill issue

[wicked viper]

i think scene can be fairly useful for this event

[spark sinew]

half the stuff hovers

[wicked viper]

to tank the first hits of enemies

[spark sinew]

some are invisible

[wicked viper]

and reveal the camo sheep

[spark sinew]

some explode

burn damage everywhere

[wicked viper]

also scene drones are particularly tanky against art as well

which is quite nice against magician sheeps

[limpid siren]

she's a good team player

the worst thing she can do is spend her skill duration attacking nothing

and she's cute

[wicked viper]

double caster is a weird choice imo

unless ya use harmonie like a support than a dps

[tidal sedge]

I've been borrowing some Harmonies lately and this aspect of her surprised me.

It took me a bit to wrap my head around her because Iris and Eben are so selfish

[limpid siren]

yea

harmonie vs iris is a world of difference

[limpid siren]

i tend towards the old wisdom for squad building

[vocal leaf]

a normal day in raythean emergency mode

featuring chongyue speed run

[glass monolith]

"You won, why you not just leaking"
"THAT'S A LAW"

[vocal leaf]

leaks are for the weaks

[spark sinew]

damn, ignored
oh well

[jovial nest]

Caster is the only class not represented in my squad

[spark sinew]

reedic erasure

[hollow epoch]

https://youtu.be/XBfb60alg8w?si=g59BOUW62JSTRnkT someone managed a 3 op sl 8 exalter clear

[glass monolith]

Sniper knight is 2

[latent monolith]

There's a 2 op

Two 2 ops in fact

One with pozy the other with mlynar

[hollow epoch]

Oh nice, is there a vid?

I cant think of how youd shrink this further

[latent monolith]

Exalt pozy https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Cj41167W2/

Actually many 2ops

Also mag can solo stage btw

https://en.arkrec.com/operation/SL-8+爱之歌

Just use this

[jovial nest]

now i know how most people feel

when <200% trust ops are below 8

barely cares about low ops since there's a huge amt of spare slots to kill a stage

[sharp wadi]

Any tips?

I used auto strat but after elabana p2 all were dead immediately

[jovial nest]

you have too many vanguards

and why not bring manual boss killers?

[south bone]

do people actually think this event is one of the easiest?

[glass monolith]

We literally have IC rerun at some time later

But normal stages were very easy as long as you respect smoke, and boss... Okay boss can be challenging. If you didn't max Kroos alter and executed no flight mode

[foggy grove]

ex stage is not out yet so i'll reserve my judgment

but so far it's not hard yeah

[peak cloak]

first, as Jusan said.
second, deploy Hoshi last so that she cant bait long range guys
and deploy her one tile further left ,like this so that aoe attacks wont hit Thorns

[jovial nest]

boss doesn't drop from stun. boss drops from lowering heart to 0

[peak cloak]

and last, u didnt deploy Honeyberry?

[glass monolith]

Heart lowers to 0 in 75 hits

[jovial nest]

unless you're just talking about spamming aspd shots

[glass monolith]

If only my sniper was doing 4 hits per 1 attack with increased attack speed

1 bottle + 50 Kroos attacks, that's how i ground boss

[jovial nest]

as much as I'd like to tailor the squad based on the boss.....I won't

[random widget]

Hi minus

[glass monolith]

8/19 lore defeated

[south bone]

Lol that's what i did as well

[scarlet ledge]

https://www.youtube.com/live/UXonRhe4PcQ?si=RIsUygEuz7LsnWY8

[jovial nest]

I love the P missions since it feels like a minigame i used to play in PvZ

[glass monolith]

P-1 : Use fountain attacks to spread smoke
P-2: Timing to spread smoke
P-3: Why third sheep has such pointless pathing

[viscid fractal]

How do i unlock the second support unit slot

[jovial nest]

I love this puzzle.

Although i did an oopsie on Blaze's block but it still worked

[tall sierra]

This one is ez

2nd was confusing but manage to found the way to pass

[jovial nest]

2nd was easy

Phantom just had to drop soda and kill it before the rampage hits him

it was pretty bruteforcey

1st and 3rd felt like better puzzles

I didn't even use the push gadget for 2nd

lemme do it again to see what was intended on Ifrit side

oh i get it now

yeah its easier this way than bruteforcing the left side

anyways i do love that HG can make puzzles out of event gimmicks

like WR gimmick for Light Spark in Darkness

and CW balls

[spice mortar]

How do you deal with second phase when it just floats away? Or are you killing boss at the top?

[jovial nest]

just rush the dps

its still the same way to ground the boss

its just that the boss moves faster now

[spice mortar]

Rip i dont have dps

Maybe swalter

For bursting down, i kinda need sa for first phase but then hes down for second. Any recommendations?

[midnight veldt]

This enough to beat SL-8?

[spice mortar]

Boss has high res, so maybe phys dps if you have them?

[glass monolith]

You would never believe me - I repeat #strategy message

[midnight veldt]

[spice mortar]

I dont have those units

[worthy fern]

I don’t really have a physical dps who would i use for support then

[glass monolith]

Well boss is trash with only few units efficiently take down him without bottles and bottle would probably need all those redeploys, timing, other random shit

[spice mortar]

Boss is certainly trash if you have maxed units, but we dont

[glass monolith]

Trash because it is not easy

[spice mortar]

Ah

[worthy fern]

Yeah I’m underleveled

[glass monolith]

Not trash because i Kokodayo his mechanic in half

[spice mortar]

No ur fine, also instead of may maybe kroos for the boss mechanic like minus and others have done

[worthy fern]

I really don’t have enough dps after second phase

[spice mortar]

Unfortunate, gonna have to borrow then probably

Bc neither do i and its looking doomed

[glass monolith]

Like srly, Exu, Kroos alter, Blue poison, maybe Archetto. List of stuff which can damage it fluff shield fast is so small, and throwing 3 bottles for few seconds of burst window is bruh

[worthy fern]

Y’a..

[inner gate]

rate da set up 😎 (i dont have a 2nd healer yet shhh)

[glass monolith]

And it is only first phase

[worthy fern]

I can’t three star it gg

[spice mortar]

Swalter does nothing to it

[jovial nest]

wow what a surprise

[glass monolith]

Bottle having 5000 hp is extra salt on wound of low levels trying to do this boss

Tried S3 Gladiia and Weedy on boss. Gladiia's S3 root works but damage proc only few times (when it drags surrounding enemies in). Weedy's debuff... Not sure it even works on drones or it calculated not as Weedy's damage but as debuff's damage so it don't strip fluff shield

[spice mortar]

I will just borrow mlynar or smth

[glass monolith]

Rest in balans

[jovial nest]

Wow. S1M2 can handle Hard Mode Raythean poison. Wonder if she can catch up once the boss keeps stacking poison

I'm curious so I think I'll wait for S1M3 to finish first

[spark sinew]

i still have no idea how boss' vials work

they're not perma are they

[jovial nest]

theyre not but they take forever to wear off

think of it like Mephy

[spark sinew]

you can't check it in battle so i always forget

[jovial nest]

multiple stacks of it make Ptilo or NG sweat that they have to activate skill

[spark sinew]

but then boss dies first try so i forget to check archives

[midnight veldt]

Anyone can help me beat SL 8 without borrowing? (if it's possible)

[cyan gorge]

Do you have Exu or Kroosalter?

[midnight veldt]

Neither

[glass monolith]

Depends on your operators, boss is simplified only by very few operators

[worthy fern]

Second phase hits har

[midnight veldt]

GT S2M3

[cyan gorge]

Good enough

[glass monolith]

It don't even hit, it just leaves

[midnight veldt]

I get confused on this map alot, with smoke and stuff

[worthy fern]

Yeah I’m finished

[jovial nest]

2nd phase can trigger the row explosion sweep

but it will no longer do direct attacks

[worthy fern]

I tried to chain ange s2+ mud s3+ gg s2

Still can’t get through second phase

[cyan gorge]

Are you not using the soda bottle?

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye

i have ro do emergency sss now

urgh

fuck

hello eveyrrone

[worthy fern]

I am

[jovial nest]

Dolly fight and HE has shown that most players can't keep up or don't pause enough for multitasking goals

[glass monolith]

Boss is big pain in ass if you can't just nuke him off earth

[jovial nest]

I'm guessing those are your main DPSs?

cause...

thats one of the weirdest combos I've ever seen

[tall cairn]

Guess they did make pause deploy intended eh.

[jovial nest]

it's unnecessary

[glass monolith]

Half (11/12, almost half) of his squad is e1

[jovial nest]

pause deploy has only been useful in max risking specific CCs

they have an E2

borrow someone's E2 90 that will destroy Dolly

[tall cairn]

Ofc it is. But they did add it back in for Hortus.

[worthy fern]

No

I tried to slow then exalt+ exlusai burst then

[jovial nest]

you only have to time it when Dolly drops to the ground

thats gonna be an issue for Mudrock

as for who usually should drop Dolly

you have any Marksmen?

[worthy fern]

Uhhhhhhh

This is what I’m using rn

[jovial nest]

that's...

[worthy fern]

I do

[jovial nest]

hmmmm

quite the imbalanced spread of resources

that e2 80 ain't cheap

[cyan gorge]

Oh wrong person

I got mixed up

[worthy fern]

I did it back when the tex event

[jovial nest]

still. that 60 -> 80 could've E2 1 -> 60 someone easily

and still have some to spare

[worthy fern]

Oh ok

I just can’t seem to do enough damage to dolly

[midnight veldt]

Currently trying this setup

[cyan gorge]

May enjoyer

[midnight veldt]

Doesn't work tho, my ops all get exploded by pink smoke

[spice mortar]

Bottle up

[ivory nimbus]

[cyan gorge]

Yeah abuse bottle more

[midnight veldt]

Even if I put white smoke everywhere, boss just bombards with pink on top

[spice mortar]

If ur struggling with its line attack leaving pink smoke get a gravel or some random self healer to put in a corner

[ivory nimbus]

I've been farming the stage to hell and back in order to max out my Thorns.

[spice mortar]

It targets last deployed

[spark sinew]

please don't max out your thorns, isn't he your only e2
raise more stuff instead

[cyan gorge]

I’m surprised my auto hasn’t broken yet

[ivory nimbus]

Nah, my team can survive Dolly's attacks, the problem is he's too tanky to take down in time.

[tall cairn]

[deft badger]

don't max out thorns...

don't max out any op

its not worth it...

[cinder pike]

but it's fun too

[peak cloak]

me omw to max out Gummy

[ivory nimbus]

I need to squeeze every last drop of atk from him.

[deft badger]

no u don't

[spice mortar]

[deft badger]

because its not going to change anything

just 80 to 90 gives u maybe 10

but costs 297577.0

[midnight veldt]

Orange - Saria
Red - Thorns
Blue - Greythroat
Purple - Sussurro
Green - May
White is where I put soda bottles, I guess I need to put some vanguard in the back after thorns to not get column bombarded

[spice mortar]

Only 300k lmd, worth

[deft badger]

about 300k lmd is e1l0 to e1l80

[spice mortar]

Why is dolly actually like the best ww2 plane war crime machine

[glass monolith]

What if you try to use thorn on top while Dolly circle top left and as soon as he leave you retreat him to place on red?

[ivory nimbus]

I'm too tired of that sheep, it needs to die.

[midnight veldt]

I tried putting thorns infront of greythroat facing left the first few attempts but still not enough dmg, and lower lane gets overwhelmed

[deft badger]

here u can see who i did max out

and trust me it wasn't worth the 300k xD

[midnight veldt]

I would've borrowed, but I need those 🥭

[cinder pike]

exu works pretty well with skalter buff

[ivory nimbus]

[cinder pike]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3HzfgKHXlc
I used this guide as I was refusing to build anyone else

did not realise you can brute force boss without bottles

[midnight veldt]

Guess am not clearing without borrowing

[glass monolith]

Or maybe some tryhard with hand holding

Sheep dies when killed, now we need to find how

[midnight veldt]

I guess, I'd love someone to backseat me

I got first phase on the top left side, but she just nuked whole map

[glass monolith]

Nuking sheep always happen on 29/50 stuff, only way to avoid it is preplace white smoke in advance on bottom. I guess you can retreat entire top after killing phase 1 to prepace phase 2 kill around place where Dolly AFK 30 seconds (bottom 2 tiles)

[midnight veldt]

thing is, I had bottom filled with white smoke

[glass monolith]

so uh.... Wait how you die then, i think boss explode only purple smoke

[midnight veldt]

Guess If I have dmg top, there's not enough at the bottom

sheep passed methink

[deft badger]

i mean texas solos him up there

[midnight veldt]

Texas is cool, if you have her

[deft badger]

and if u have a other fast redeploy that can destroy fast the soda so that u don't have to use texas to do

it even dies before getting to that point

[midnight veldt]

Only fast deploy I have is gravel, so I use Cutter and surtr for bottles + damage

[deft badger]

u can still put a sniper up to the task to shoot the soda

when u drop it on the ground so that u can drop texas on it when its down

[midnight veldt]

I have maxed GT but in the long run she seems more and more like account damage

[cyan gorge]

Bird is never account damage

[spark sinew]

||snowsant||

[glass monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQFO7Xb4KdQ

[deft badger]

is that aak buffed? 😄

or just sail

[glass monolith]

yes

[deft badger]

yeah but with skalter buff did try it right now just aak mlynar

[glass monolith]

+96% Stainless, +90% Warf S2 on Skalter S3, who buff Mlynar (who was Aaked S3) and true damage boss who is under Saileach S3 phase 1 and Suzu S3 phase 2

[spice mortar]

Does Texas need anything other than herself

[deft badger]

no

just her but maybe bring a other op that is going to help with sodas

[spice mortar]

Aight ill just borrow then

[deft badger]

since they have a lower cd then her

[viscid fractal]

How do i unlock the second support unit slot someone pls tell me

[spice mortar]

Texas only for when dollys down or before then too?

[deft badger]

u can do first soda with texas

but 2nd i would do with something else

[spice mortar]

Ok

I will try

[deft badger]

so that 3rd the sheep drops on texas and she can hit it

s2 texas btw

[spice mortar]

Ah was about to ask

[deft badger]

free pull... eyja xD

niceee

[tall sierra]

Ops with many hit near fountain is mvp against this boss

Exu, archetto etc

[deft badger]

how do u mean many hits?

[tall sierra]

Exu, archetto?

[deft badger]

does the shield have like a hit count?

[last mist]

Fast attack speed

[spark sinew]

essentially it does

[tall sierra]

Seem like it
Exu break the star fast when her s3up

[spice mortar]

It has 50 hits per star

So 150 totla

[deft badger]

because i did try couple sniper slow shooting did like nothing

krooster was choping it like crezy

[spice mortar]

Op has to be in steam

[tall sierra]

Coke instantly break 1 star regardless no?

[deft badger]

now i am going to try BP xD

[spice mortar]

Like the steam gen

[last mist]

Yes

[spice mortar]

Yes coke insta

[deft badger]

if it has a hitcount i guess she will melt it

[last mist]

Is it just me or the stage is laggy asf on auto?

[glass monolith]

Someone said 1 hit reduce shield by 2 (maybe CM will bring some bullshit like half your damage to shield). Bottle explosion reduce by 50

[spice mortar]

Idk exactly

[glass monolith]

Exu, Kroos alter are 2 most brain dead Many hits single target options to shred shield without waiting for like 45 seconds to bottle that shit 3 times

But boss is 900 def so better have shamare and ATK buffers for Exu Kroos if you want THEM do lifting

[deft badger]

ok nvm bp did nothing lol

[tall sierra]

I dunno exu can shred half of boss hp in p2

Cm ex gonna have higher def so yea shamare will help

[last mist]

I just used exu + mumu S3 on top lane P1 and bursted it on bottom lane P2

[tall sierra]

Im using exu and mylnar (at btm facing up)

[vernal lion]

150 hp,
reduce 2 hp for every attack from allied op that in adjacent to geyser,
and reduce 50 hp when tanking dmg from soda bottle

[tall sierra]

Against the boss

[glass monolith]

Doctor, tell me the truth, i can handle it. CM condition is "damage to shield is halved"?

[vernal lion]

nah, boss burst you with skill continuously

[tall sierra]

The bloody star atk that cover 1 line

[cosmic thicket]

angelina S2 is pretty goated to break the shield tbh

[glass monolith]

In which case... WHY CODE IT THIS WAY?
I know it is like 1 byte of memory wasted but why do 150 hp being reduced by 2 and 50 when you can do 75 hp reduced by 1 and 25

[vernal lion]

but that is not totally wrong, CM boss in S stage has increased shield hp

[tall sierra]

Ange ye.. not only help slow the boss and help break shield, also provide some aspd buff to entire ops

[cosmic thicket]

S2M3 being a 5 SP helidrop is very funny here, I retreat her just before she grounds Dolly for exu to finish

[last mist]

150 2 50 looks cooler than 75 1 25

[cosmic thicket]

Maybe they were testing stuff like 150 3 and were like "nah too easy"

[last mist]

50 hits would really be too few

[glass monolith]

Just slap immortality frames after each hit

[dark carbon]

Any strat that doesnt have mylnar pozy exu s3m3?
try to make trust farm but it is a pain without them

what I have

[gleaming lodge]

huh...

you can make your own strat

probably some Ling stuff

[dark carbon]

I mean I can but I want to make trust farm strat

[last mist]

Thats one way to slap the players "Lmao just use bottles u idiots"

[gleaming lodge]

yeah ?
just make a 4 ops trust farm it's fine

[last mist]

Why did it not reply dumbass discord

[dark carbon]

the boss need fast atker but my exu is only lv 7

[tall sierra]

Archetto or kroos

If ur exu not ready

[last mist]

Isnt there like a 2 ops clear with archetto

[cosmic thicket]

archetto schwarz yeah

but archetto where

[deft badger]

@glass monolith have u seen my spoils in salt mine 😄

[dark carbon]

Bro I dont have those sniper

[cosmic thicket]

do you have e1 angelina

[dark carbon]

e2 yes

[tall sierra]

Then use her

[cosmic thicket]

S2 breaks shield pretty well

[tall sierra]

She has fast atk on s2

[dark carbon]

ok

thanks

[cosmic thicket]

skill level 4 is enough to solo break shield but you may want to leave the shield with barely any HP left

that way you can get all your burst in

[tall sierra]

If all else fail just borrow someone who has exu or archetto

[dark carbon]

can ceobe s2 do it too?

[cosmic thicket]

yes but it's slower

[tall sierra]

Coebe is not as fast as those 3

[last mist]

I wonder if Reedic's flame ticks(i forgor what those DoT like thing is called) count as 2 per tick too

[dark carbon]

I can clear the stage, just try to make trust farm

[cosmic thicket]

yours is no mod but maybe with mod it works too

[cosmic thicket]

they don't hit air

if im not mistaken

[tall sierra]

I forgot there 1 more girl who has fast atk and multi hit

[last mist]

Oh wait really?

[tall sierra]

5*

[cosmic thicket]

greythroat

kroos alter

[glass monolith]

[deft badger]

a lot of people got like some insane pulls...

[spark sinew]

don't look at them

although your pulls are also ew

[deft badger]

50 for chalter eyja swire is nice 😄

only thing that is missing is gavi

[glass monolith]

My most insane banner was DH, like Magallan, Ange, Chen, 2 Chalter in 50

[deft badger]

we have couple more days of free daily pulls so maybe she is coming home as well lol

who is DH?

[glass monolith]

2nd Anni event

We get event restore for it... someday

[spark sinew]

disgusting

[glass monolith]

Maybe with IC rerun

[spark sinew]

didn't need to voice your current banner pulls here anyway

[deft badger]

my luckiest was texas...
under 60 i forgot the number but texas, pod 5 penance and blaze 😄

[cosmic thicket]

mine was ines, 10 6*s in 140 pulls

[deft badger]

ines last?

i guess yes, i would be mad af lol

[cosmic thicket]

no

i was pulling for p6 cement

when i got 5 cements i had 10 6*'s pulled

so i just applied the defender tokens and called it a day

i got 2 ines 2 lee 2 goldenglow thorns kal lin gnosis

[deft badger]

if i get ofbanners its most of the time ops i already have, would like to get lee gg kal... -.-

[cosmic thicket]

all the offbanners were dupes except for lin and lee

[jovial nest]

Dossoles

[glass monolith]

Dossoles: Mostly easy because event mechanic is buffs to you
IC: CAR MANSLAUGHTER
Sheeps: Screw this boss

[worthy fern]

@jovial nest i 3 star sl-8 by the slightest margin

[jovial nest]

Nice

[jovial nest]

We all know SL is all about the SMOKE

[cosmic thicket]

what the sheep vaping

[vernal lion]

whole of this event is about smoke and grenade

[glass monolith]

In normal stages i had few to none issue (because i throw E2 at issue) while respecting being smoked.
Boss is shit

[scarlet ledge]

@vernal lion

[vernal lion]

I just realize that they can smoke in the tunnel

[vernal lion]

who's in front of Amiya

[scarlet ledge]

swire

[foggy grove]

no tunnel cheesing

[glass monolith]

Swalter

[turbid badge]

the hung shalem combo

[spice mortar]

How did u do it?

[quick pecan]

where hung

i wanna stare at him

mmm dog man

[spark sinew]

[worthy fern]

Ange s2+mudrock s3+ exalt with ash as support

I basically hard stalled bottom path

[spice mortar]

Hm mud s3 good call

I forgot that existed

[worthy fern]

It barely worked

I killed him on the third to last time

[turbid badge]

use the stream soda to heal ur estelle guys

[glass monolith]

Nobody:
La Pluma biting chunk of bottle off: SMOKE POWWWWEEEEER

[vernal lion]

imagine the smoke also gives evasion stat

[glass monolith]

Imagine caster sheep was causing purple smoke on it

Because i feel almost nothing in this event smoke you except like BIG FELLA and if you smoked yourself you won

[vernal lion]

that reminds me of the burning reed caster

[deft badger]

i am so broke..

first time that i have lmd and xp but out of mats lol

[glass monolith]

I have lmd, xp, mats, but lack motivation to do shit

[deft badger]

better question is where did it all go, 2 months ago i did have 100+ of all t3 mats

out of devices, oriron, loxic kohl

[glass monolith]

100 devices

(X) Doubt

That shit so poor drop rate it is barely farmable in events with it

[deft badger]

i don't remember when did we have a event last time with devices

anyway i did a lot in the past couple months 🙂

i am proud of my acc xD

[spark sinew]

no aak module

qb is beyond garbage at m1 btw

she scales with masteries a lot

[glass monolith]

She is beyond garbage on m0 because S3 don't event get talent damage scale without masteries

[radiant mesa]

Finish your masteries

[turbid badge]

im doing masteries heavy rn

dw my bena beeswax krooster rock2 will finally be playable

but but

i moght run of books

[deft badger]

i don't use QB...

[spark sinew]

i was right to dislike you at first

[turbid badge]

wait wtf

yato s3 no masteries

[latent anvil]

[cyan gorge]

Then why e2 in the first place

[turbid badge]

idk i use yato s3 so much

its so versatile

hits everything

[turbid badge]

augh

[latent anvil]

[cyan gorge]

That account looks so boring to have

All meta no fun

[deft badger]

she was a option at that time but right after that i got mlynar chong ines and xxx others did finish gladiia and spalter

so yeah no need to use her

[turbid badge]

i raise for IS cuz thats the only fun i have

“hard content” but i can play it at different angles is fun to me

[spark sinew]

all meta and some wrong skills masteried

[glass monolith]

Having meta don't stop me from using something which is not 12 6* only

[celest bluff]

Spalter mean specter alt right

[turbid badge]

Yes

[spark sinew]

ok i just noticed that yato

wow

[latent anvil]

teta pro

[turbid badge]

he really likes his s1

[glass monolith]

How you can miss Yato? Woman literally taunts

[latent anvil]

rosa or eyjavijsktal first

[turbid badge]

u gonna get typon

just raise eyjavaiisithsial

[latent anvil]

uh

how get toyha

[spark sinew]

neither, use qb

[turbid badge]

soon

[latent anvil]

im bonrken now

[turbid badge]

but hes name changed

[spark sinew]

not changed in my heart

[latent anvil]

my qb m9 alr

[turbid badge]

hauckindu do u use krooster

[celest bluff]

Nearl kroos and la puma?

[turbid badge]

yes dear

and soda pop

[spark sinew]

i do but unless yours is s1m3 you won't entice me to use yours

[turbid badge]

Ok on it

you wanna see it rn

its perfect

[spark sinew]

levels matter too much

no module is also defective

i didn't use mine, and she's mod1 60 m3

[glass monolith]

I had her m6 e2 80 as soon as i could because she is reason i started playing this stupid game

[turbid badge]

yeah i know

[spark sinew]

borrowing mod3 80 was the key to not choke in IS

[latent anvil]

perfect m4

[turbid badge]

i have to start pumping levels

but im broke

[spark sinew]

get better base

[latent anvil]

i gto no xp jno lmd no book

aguhr

[turbid badge]

i wish i can take the exp from the old ops

my base is decent pls i only have no providio

[latent anvil]

wtfart no prvoonstonkso

[turbid badge]

please dont say its not a base bc no provisio

[spark sinew]

where's your e2 filipino

[turbid badge]

was it noodles

[spark sinew]

you have 20 seconds to show

no

[turbid badge]

no hes roi is too long i do later when km rich

[spark sinew]

you won't convince me that your other investments are better

because i saw them

[latent anvil]

wtfart hauckindu bully

not pro

[spark sinew]

hauckindu only bullies to build character

[quick pecan]

my e2 40 matterhorn

[turbid badge]

yeah i just rip their promotion back to e0

[quick pecan]

i refused to e2 cuora and needed a defender

said idc if he res tank he male

(i had no hung)

[turbid badge]

why didnt u stick with tank

spot

[quick pecan]

spot is paper

[spark sinew]

🤔

[latent anvil]

psot usck

much prefer cardigan

[turbid badge]

was the matterhorn skin free

wow no wonder u raised him

[quick pecan]

yes

he daddy

mmm yeah he looks so hot on the bench

[turbid badge]

bench

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

wgz have u raised all ur 6* to e3

[latent anvil]

i show in sec

[spark sinew]

matterhorn skin is a giant downgrade to both e0 and e2

[radiant mesa]

Raising 6* too expensive to raise them all

[spark sinew]

[radiant mesa]

I have like 17 on my bench below e2

[spark sinew]

i only have one

[turbid badge]

thats just you

[radiant mesa]

how

[turbid badge]

i have like 5 rn

[latent anvil]

augh

[spark sinew]

base 💪

[radiant mesa]

Your ho'ol is lacking

[turbid badge]

wait its actually 9

[spark sinew]

i mean i could raise that one but i don't wanna

[latent anvil]

holyak suck

[turbid badge]

yah she do

[spark sinew]

should still have 17 million lmd and some exp

[latent anvil]

im new player

so im broke

[turbid badge]

me. 2

[radiant mesa]

:/

[spark sinew]

e2 80 ely

[latent anvil]

10 base ops not raised

[turbid badge]

im the con of raisig so much is that i have no mats

[radiant mesa]

I don't raise base ops because I don't care what they do

[latent anvil]

ive no mats either

[turbid badge]

but eben and ros are fun

well fun is subjective

[spark sinew]

that's why you're broke

[radiant mesa]

I have a lot of mats but no e2s that makes sense

[turbid badge]

i finally got the pinus club running somehow there finally all e2

that took a while

[radiant mesa]

I hit 60 e2s last week

20 a year! Huge!

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

what

how do i check

[radiant mesa]

Count em

[spark sinew]

someone count mine, they're on my krooster

[turbid badge]

i raised alot of 4*

this year

like alot

[radiant mesa]

Actually that's not true I have 59

I was wrong

[latent anvil]

125

[spark sinew]

not bad

[radiant mesa]

All of my 6*s minus 3 are maxes though

[turbid badge]

how do u check

mine stopped at 100 in 09/21/24

[radiant mesa]

You can count can't you

[latent anvil]

no

[turbid badge]

no

[radiant mesa]

Unfortunate

[turbid badge]

i have like 116

[radiant mesa]

41/44 6* are 90

[spark sinew]

you did 16 e2s in 2 years?

[celest bluff]

Why they keep making boss immune to crowd control

[turbid badge]

118 actally

[latent anvil]

2024 barely started

[turbid badge]

yeah

i 90 way to much before

idk why

[spark sinew]

that's why i said 2, not 3 years

[radiant mesa]

I 90 ops I use

And I do mainly high cc

[turbid badge]

but i have a cool lvl 90 hellagur cuz of it

[radiant mesa]

That is one of the two y1 ops I don't have somehow

[spark sinew]

cause this is wild

[scarlet mortar]

it's been 4 years of this

[turbid badge]

what

[scarlet mortar]

nothing new there

[deft badger]

i have 33 e2s
1 year of playing 🙂
0 base slaves
5, 4-5 stars rest 6 stars

[radiant mesa]

I raised Vulcan and waii fu those are good base slaves actually

[celest bluff]

What about this one

[radiant mesa]

So I guess I have some

[celest bluff]

What is the skill

And at e1 or2

[radiant mesa]

E2

Factory production

[deft badger]

i should do couple of them just to have a good rotation

[radiant mesa]

Silver ash + cliffheart

[celest bluff]

Best I could do is +90% exp production

[deft badger]

the thing that bugs me non of those 28 six stars i did e2 is good at the base
beside EXU she is the only one

[celest bluff]

Down time is like +75% and add control center buff in

2%

[turbid badge]

yea

just waiifu

idk vulcan much but last time i checked % isnt as high as the others

its more tor the capacity tho ig

[spark sinew]

it's a bit bettthan 30

[glass monolith]

So sheeps we fighting are copies of some people Dolly seen in his life... This means it is lore confirmed it is not last time 3 target caster with "get F-d" range will happen in AK