strategy

[glass monolith]

Time to deploy 4 barrel anti-air creature: Kroos

[spice mortar]

Then more time to kill him

[deft badger]

dont know how others are going to do him

i did abuse the hell out of that thing before it even came in to my camp

[spice mortar]

What did you use?

[deft badger]

texas yato ofc

[glass monolith]

Who will spread good fog around if only Eyja ranged DPS?

[grand ginkgo]

You are gonna fucking annihilate the poor sheep, mr flexer

[vernal lion]

150 HP,
reduce by 2 whenever taking 1 instant-damage from allied op,
and reduce by 50 if taking dmg from the soda

[grand ginkgo]

but yeah bring any aa sniper

[vocal cave]

idk how does this work im just bringing all my helidrops

[spice mortar]

I think i might try kroos sa with a healer top to get him into second phase

[deft badger]

i would say maybe chalter

[spice mortar]

Then hopefully have enough time to redeploy

Dont have

[deft badger]

since she is going to slow him as well

[glass monolith]

Forced tutorial after SL-5
Don't know how this work

[deft badger]

but i don't really know i took some of his shield down before he even got to the other side

[spice mortar]

His shield depletes fast when hit in steam

[quick pecan]

bro

[grand ginkgo]

you should be super fine because Rosmontis probably solos bottom lane and you only need to care about the sheep

[quick pecan]

lapp / blue poison weren’t even my last deploys

[spice mortar]

Wait how ros solo bottom?

[grand ginkgo]

wow have you considered using greyy alter

[glass monolith]

Helicopter helicopter

[spice mortar]

Tank + ros then?

[grand ginkgo]

greyy alter like solos with help of elysium

you should probably be fine with rosm solo

[deft badger]

i was so hipped that i forgot about the most important part of this event, blaze has a module now! 😄

[quick pecan]

what greyy doin to dolly

[glass monolith]

You mean spectre got meme tier AH module

[spice mortar]

I didnt notice the sheep fuk

[deft badger]

i can do without that 5% but blaze is getting big d- dmg 😄

[turbid badge]

wtf

fw not e2 bryo still e0 omga angle

[grand ginkgo]

His job is nothing about dolly

[quick pecan]

i’m dying of cringe

maybe i swap ptilo and bp position

[spice mortar]

This fucjing sheep how did i get it to 15% hp the first time

[quick pecan]

bro nearl died

[tropic valve]

utilize the shield mechanic

exploding white steam hurts the shield

[deft badger]

whats that slp map?

[turbid badge]

its that bad?

[turbid badge]

read the mechanics please

your gonna be confused

its like lone trial extra maps

basically

[deft badger]

i refuse to read mechanics xD

[turbid badge]

leaking doesnt matter

[turbid badge]

what in the 5* trust farm

[quick pecan]

i don’t get skills back up before he leaks

[turbid badge]

fw would eat dolly up smh

[quick pecan]

fw would take 80 years to break his shield

[vernal lion]

puzzle stages

[turbid badge]

its fine

i will force the frog to break it

[quick pecan]

just watch

[turbid badge]

[vernal lion]

because it's instant dmg lol

[quick pecan]

someone is gonna upload a low op with krooster

don’t even have to guess

[turbid badge]

lol

[quick pecan]

it’s just a fact

[vernal lion]

150 hp, reduce 2 hp when taking any 1 dmg

[turbid badge]

im gonna try

now

[random widget]

Reed best skill is s3?

[vernal lion]

yes

[turbid badge]

dps s2

[quick pecan]

you did not read that sentence correctly

[turbid badge]

s3 general use

[quick pecan]

read it over one more time

[random widget]

Got it

[quick pecan]

[vernal lion]

shield has 150 hp, but it's only taken 2 dmg whenever your op deal 1 instant dmg to it

[spice mortar]

Does a pink tile turning white from an op shot count as a steam explosion

[quick pecan]

still did not read it right

it’s whatever

[vernal lion]

ok

[random widget]

Gavialalter general use is s2?

[vernal lion]

whateer

[turbid badge]

what damage type is dolly

[turbid badge]

yes better cycle

[quick pecan]

cringe

[vernal lion]

arts dmg

[quick pecan]

that’s his damage type

[turbid badge]

oh

dolly looks real good here

[random widget]

Mountain S2?

[vernal lion]

imagine someone try to break his shield without using marksman

[deft badger]

me on my first try

with surtr

xD

[vernal lion]

op in adjacent to the geyser, or destroy the soda bottle

[spice mortar]

Ok ty

[turbid badge]

the map looks so cute idk why jappening

[vernal lion]

your op died by the pink cloud

[turbid badge]

where does he drop it

last deployed or special targetting

[vernal lion]

last deploy

[turbid badge]

ouch

i should bring frdp

[glass monolith]

Boss weakness is not being immortal

[turbid badge]

help im herding sheep

[quick pecan]

bring rock2 or bp

duo with krooster

[turbid badge]

yeah ik

[quick pecan]

surely they will clap dolly’s cheeks

[turbid badge]

I have rokrok

[quick pecan]

[turbid badge]

uhh shes m2 tho

actuallly sad

[quick pecan]

pain

i don’t even think dolly is annoying

[vernal lion]

boss weakness is when you deny to use geyser and soda bottle

[turbid badge]

yeah

[quick pecan]

it’s that you have the air sheep too

so they force you to use skills

[turbid badge]

hes not that annoying

[glass monolith]

One thing I hate - Kroos ignores bottle because stupid hatred to drones

[turbid badge]

krooster is too op

[vernal lion]

marksman behavior

[turbid badge]

just get better

[glass monolith]

Don't spoil me EX/S boss fight

[turbid badge]

use ambriel

ur ambriel auto targets the boxes

cuz its lowest defense

[vernal lion]

nah, boss is main issue for you, dw

[glass monolith]

I am main issue for boss

[spice mortar]

I use geyser and soda bottle, still lose. Skill issue

[vernal lion]

boss, when all the fields filled with pink cloud and he detonates all the cloud bombs

I found it's so fucking holy jesus christ, when my full HP dragon drop to 20% HP from 3 bursts

[spice mortar]

Yeah if unit has more than 3 clouds near it i consider it dead

Cuz it does it in lines so its extra cringe

[quick pecan]

i might distract myself with annihilation

and mald there instead

[spice mortar]

I go mald at exam in 5 hrs

Gn

[vernal lion]

at least this boss won't be cringe as Harold

[turbid badge]

white sheep bonaza

[quick pecan]

wtf czerny

and without skin

[turbid badge]

oh that wasnt too bad

krooste rcarried so bad

and rokrok

jieyun better meteorite smhsmh

jk her crits probably just destroy everything

[glass monolith]

If I give my Kroos the Shamare boss just leaves

[turbid badge]

aoe dps and focus on boss and sleep

[vernal lion]

the boss has 1 stop point

it's right in the middle bottom

for like 30s

[turbid badge]

he stops everything

everywhere

to do that frenzy phase thing

[glass monolith]

Phase 2 does it only when he become air again

And phase 1... I have krooster, he is not surviving long enough to activate it

[vernal lion]

but he shits his pink cloud everywhere on his path

and that makes him taking less 75% dmg

[glass monolith]

Chapter 9 teach me: If you want to farm something with DR - do more damage

[vernal lion]

me when I saw my Exu deal 5 dmg by herself

[turbid badge]

5 damage?

damn

he coops at the bottom for a but too

the undelployable tiles in the bottom

[glass monolith]

That is why I have cursed weapon - S2M3 Sora... Also Warf s2 got little boring

[turbid badge]

i killed him near blue box cuz i was lappdumb

rockrock is amazing

op drone

man still sad of kjera

wish she got more freeze chance or something

[quick pecan]

ptilo / bp keep getting nuked

[turbid badge]

lol

is this cm or

i just cleaned the pink tiles with red

[quick pecan]

no i’m just stubborn and try to low op

[turbid badge]

ah

how many

5?

[quick pecan]

i need to fleggs my 5*

6

[turbid badge]

oh

how u bring

bassline would be great here lol

[quick pecan]

bassline would get his res cooked why tf our burn not this busted

instead of doing burn damage warmy doing account damage

[turbid badge]

lol

[quick pecan]

i don’t have krooster built

[vernal lion]

I can see the problem if you can't kill the boss

[quick pecan]

@turbid badge it honestly might as well be 5 not like canta does anything other than proc soda

[vernal lion]

HG when they keep hiding that last unknown enemy for a special stage

[glass monolith]

:triggered:

[vernal lion]

but you already know who is he

[glass monolith]

White bind caster

[vernal lion]

pov: mf will bind you for 9999 seconds

[turbid badge]

wait wtf lappv

why not use a normal aoe dps

is she also used for soda with her range idk ur strt

[quick pecan]

soda + helps if air sheep leak

[turbid badge]

ah air sheep leak

[quick pecan]

either dolly leaks or the air sheep

never both

[turbid badge]

cant u just use metoeirte

[quick pecan]

hmm i’ll see

[turbid badge]

or a chain caster

[quick pecan]

lmfao kyo’s trust farm

zero afk skills

all manual

[turbid badge]

lol

[quick pecan]

mlynar kal eyja exu

well i guess exu isn’t manual

but he probably deploys her specific time to line up skill

[turbid badge]

wait what

that much

just for this stage?

[quick pecan]

yes

https://youtu.be/qImVQVPzDyo?si=d2-NXPdX-SJ_Quca

[turbid badge]

i want swire more than eyja tbh

i hope i get swire with free pulls

[quick pecan]

i got both

[turbid badge]

pog

[quick pecan]

[turbid badge]

i havent spent anything

[quick pecan]

kinda pulled more than i should have

but hoederer on horizon

so must stop

[deft badger]

no eyja for me probably..

not willing to spend more then 50 on her

[turbid badge]

why r u so pessimistic

theres like a whole 16 days of free pull

[deft badger]

because i didn't get her in the free pulls 😄

[turbid badge]

and than the tivket thing

[deft badger]

but guess what i got in the free 10

chalter

lol

[quick pecan]

i want gavialt

but 300 pulls don’t seem worth rn

so she has to wait a year it’s either her or arknights eos

[deft badger]

wouldn't give 300 on gavi

[turbid badge]

oh angle u dont have her?

[quick pecan]

nah

i started during dossoles rerun

legit

[turbid badge]

honestly i dont use her much

[quick pecan]

right after her

well i care less bc i have exalter

but she still busted

[turbid badge]

skin might change things

[deft badger]

if she would have a s2 like blaze maybe i would like that op otherwise not really

[turbid badge]

i pulled her for tomimi

[deft badger]

but i do like that s3?

is it that when she punches like crazy up and down?

[turbid badge]

s2 cycle better so its the better skill ofc ofc

when i type here i type on autopilot or something istg

angle do i have you friended?

[quick pecan]

you can kinda tell centurion mods were made with her in mind

at least the base effect and her s2

upgrades kinda whatever on her from what i hear

[turbid badge]

yea

croc module

[quick pecan]

n

@turbid badge Angle#3651

[turbid badge]

okadded

[quick pecan]

should i troll my friends

and make all my supports 5*

pretty sure at least someone borrows my max pot chong

[turbid badge]

lol

demote base

and u can only put one slot

[quick pecan]

[limpid siren]

did you run out of money

[turbid badge]

wait did u not get r2 skin?

[quick pecan]

nope

[tidal sedge]

It's funny to see all the Swire alts on my support set to different skills

[deft badger]

why....

and i thought that i make bad decisions xD

[solid dew]

at least you can shred EB lol

[quick pecan]

why what

[deft badger]

well couple more, there are some bosses with really really low def 😄

[quick pecan]

say it with ur chest lol

[celest bluff]

S1?

[deft badger]

why do u m3 her skill thats what i meant lol

[quick pecan]

bc i use her??

why else would i m3 a skill on any op

i use them

[deft badger]

btw don't understand me wrong, on my list of ops i like liskarm ranks 4th 😄

but mine doesn't have mastery

[solid dew]

your not doing it for no reason?
damn i knew i was doing something wrong

[deft badger]

yes...

[deft badger]

yeah i got that but there is no way thats worth the mats xD

[quick pecan]

getting an extra target for an entire skill duration seems like it’s worth idk about u

[timid schooner]

this is fine

now we wait for ex-8

[cyan gorge]

I'm surprised this even works as an auto

[limpid siren]

bro can't fathom the idea of someone using 5*s for the fun of it

[glass monolith]

It is much funnier than just reuse Thorns for Nth time or something

[timid schooner]

mfw no skadi2 and use sora

nice

[celest bluff]

This isn't a hard choice

[turbid badge]

ashlock?

[celest bluff]

Ashlock

[timid schooner]

aosta

[glass monolith]

Not just Sona. Shoperator Sona

[timid schooner]

for meme

[celest bluff]

Any RICC slave worker I missing out

[glass monolith]

Blue Poison because it is Wednesday my dude

[turbid badge]

what

thankfully im not the only one with bad spelling here

[glass monolith]

I shoperatored Sora

[turbid badge]

it says sona

sona =

[glass monolith]

Pretend it doesn't

[celest bluff]

Sauna

[peak cloak]

Sona? it sounds familiar

)

[celest bluff]

Sonar

[quick pecan]

oh do u mean the e2 70

honestly ya

am brokie

i wanna max my chong and exalter who’re both sitting at e2 75

but then i want to raise more 5*

[limpid siren]

😤

[turbid badge]

ah yes the dilemma

i raise 4 stars to fix the issue no biggie

[quick pecan]

on one hand 5*

on the other hand

hot male

elysium and insider are lucky they are both

[turbid badge]

u raising bryo?

[quick pecan]

i think eventually

but for base

[turbid badge]

eventually

how long is that

[quick pecan]

keep in mind

that eventually could be in a year

that’s how long i delayed tequila

[turbid badge]

wow

[foggy grove]

I e2 60 bryo

Idk why

[turbid badge]

hauckindus e2

base ofc

[foggy grove]

[turbid badge]

[quick pecan]

he unadded bc i didn’t 90 my chong

[turbid badge]

wtf

fr

[dark glade]

[limpid siren]

[turbid badge]

[quick pecan]

his words were

"i found another sugar daddy"

[turbid badge]

[quick pecan]

[turbid badge]

thats why we raise the obsecure around here

[foggy grove]

[turbid badge]

nobody can replace

☝️

🙏🙏

[quick pecan]

don’t see many hungs out there

so ture

[foggy grove]

I saw many hungs

[turbid badge]

oh crap

[quick pecan]

damn

i’m not unique

[turbid badge]

m3 ashlock gain spike

[quick pecan]

brb uninstalling

[turbid badge]

i actually see alot of hungs ngl

[foggy grove]

Ye

[turbid badge]

theres alot more furry lovers out there

[quick pecan]

ture

i love the furry man

[limpid siren]

so many pot5s to choose from for this ticket

[quick pecan]

my elysium is no longer cringe

p6

[turbid badge]

wow the day changes

in the Event background

[weak gazelle]

looking again at Ponci seem p4 is the min

[deft badger]

so after xxxx amount of rerolls since i came in the game first time that i pulled a 6 star on that tutorial 1st pull right now and its suzu 😄

[limpid siren]

def pot sounds nice yea

[weak gazelle]

but she avoid me

dunno if i have to go deeper in this banner

[deft badger]

eyja?

[rose patrol]

Blaze with module is

[deft badger]

is broken...

[weak gazelle]

the best centurion mod you can get for now

[deft badger]

it does give her like 20-25% more dmg

[rose patrol]

Feels like gav alter one is pretty mid

[weak gazelle]

i have no idea if galter
but its 6*, will have other mod sooner or later

just cope it wouldnt be this mid

[deft badger]

can u send a screen what hers does?

[solid dew]

and it synergsizes really well with her best skill, makes me happy :)

[limpid siren]

same, i only got one copy

[solid dew]

blaze or gavals one

[deft badger]

gavi

i have to many bluestacks running

[deft badger]

don't wanna open chorme it makes them crash sometimes 😄

[wicked viper]

blaze module is like 50-80% more dps for her, while gavialt is like 30% more dmg, becasue gavialt already hit hard and has a lot of atk, it's less impactful

[deft badger]

why mid thats actually a lot of stats

[wicked viper]

but

gavialt is still inherently stronger

because gavailt

[weak gazelle]

hmm its not bad
but 12 mod block for that
i will think really hard for it

[deft badger]

how is it 50-80 when someone did show a graph couple days ago it was more like 20-25 max 30

[wicked viper]

because accounting defense

since one of the biggest problem of blaze is high def enemies

50% better at 1k def

80% better at 1.5k def

[deft badger]

u are going to make me scroll xD

[deft badger]

its actually more.. then 80 xD

that's x2 the dmg she does after +1.6k

[wicked viper]

[foggy grove]

what

[novel pivot]

true damage once again ignoring game mechanics this event

[deft badger]

yeah i got lost looking at thorns line xD

her dmg ends at 2000def

funny how thorns hits still 400

[turbid badge]

ougg

[turbid badge]

what in the amiya s3

[novel pivot]

kalstit

[turbid badge]

oh ur just dropping the sheep

use ritualist when they come out

way easier

no need to drop

[novel pivot]

texaltering them is already very easy

mlynar dmg so high it practically doesnt get dented

i think building ntr was overkill

[tall cairn]

Jieyun.

[novel pivot]

done with event stage too

guess its SSS time

poison map my beloved

[turbid badge]

what i raised her not to use her?

[tall cairn]

No. I meant it’s an interesting raise.

[turbid badge]

[quick pecan]

insert obligatory « why…… » bc 5* bad

how dare u raise her smh

[tall cairn]

Now that I look at the pic again.

Wind Chimes is there too.

turned from weird into based.

[turbid badge]

crusher module save us

[quick pecan]

hoederer’s ass will get bigger

it will be a win no matter what

💪

[tall cairn]

[quick pecan]

maybe someone else will get the greyy alt treatment

and have a cracked module

[tall cairn]

Oh is he decent now?

[turbid badge]

yes

please

yea hes decent

[quick pecan]

he is

poggin

[turbid badge]

aoe slow

[quick pecan]

high uptime aoe slow that is literally already good from autos alone

skills still help but

if u compare greyy alt pre and post module

it is crazy

[turbid badge]

yeah more chance to slow

time to get estelle module

[tall cairn]

Base slave got upgrades.

[foggy grove]

worth fr

[tall cairn]

Only pays off in 7yrs according to Shu.

[peak cloak]

who is this?

[tall cairn]

[peak cloak]

next to Gravel

[tall cairn]

Bryophyta, 5* welfare for SL.

[deft badger]

btw whats that under her ?

it shows up after couple sec

[peak cloak]

s1? maybe her skill effect

[quick pecan]

payoff by endfield eos fr

[deft badger]

don't know what it is

i just know that it shows up a bit later

and i guess it does something xD

[meager thistle]

Whats the best way to kill the boss sheep i just cant kill it quick enough

[quick pecan]

burst with exu or pozy

[meager thistle]

After i down it right? I just cant down it fast enough

[quick pecan]

are you using the soda bottles on it

[meager thistle]

Yeah when i can

[turbid badge]

its s1.

it means the dodge is ready

physical dodge

just a indicator

really like those in AK

like lings lantern, dusks sword , weapon effects to indicate the talents charged uwoag

[peak cloak]

yea

[turbid badge]

or just

hungry - skalter

next to a ah

[peak cloak]

[quick pecan]

the sans megalovania means she wanna nomnom specter

[turbid badge]

there invisible

[rich rune]

Idk why, but I like going through early game stages and seeing which of my built ops can solo them.

[jovial nest]

Read enemy description

you're most likely not able to hit them before because they were not being blocked

[nimble sierra]

Damn eyja alter is a support unit is bs. She enables one of the most offensive strats in arknights as a whole: super aggressive helidrops

[deft badger]

??? xD

[nimble sierra]

Her and a skadi alter can let you throw a super squishy caster or even mylnar right Infront of an enemy with her global range, keep them alive till their skills over

And its from anywhere across the map

[deft badger]

"super aggressive helidrops" like texas and yato who don't need heal?

i am just kidding btw...

[nimble sierra]

Discounting those two. I mean older gen helidrops like eyja and silverash

[deft badger]

she is cool yes, but healing isn't need that much anymore

[nimble sierra]

The ones that actually need 15 seconds to stay alive

[turbid badge]

ur fangs scared me

[nimble sierra]

0_o

[turbid badge]

how longs the skill

[quick pecan]

you can also do this cool thing called deploy 15s faster

[turbid badge]

s3 specifically

[nimble sierra]

50 seconds

[turbid badge]

wtf

[nimble sierra]

Global range

[turbid badge]

i just use silence alter s3

[jovial nest]

it only starts mattering when damage gets high enough. If any map barely challenges you, the less heals you need

[turbid badge]

yup

[jovial nest]

there will always be content that requires healing

[turbid badge]

healing makes everything easier

[deft badger]

yes and there is lumen as well xD

[jovial nest]

cause doing no-heal EX-8s are very difficult redep squads

[turbid badge]

eyja alter 2 targets

[turbid badge]

oh i was thinking more H stages

[deft badger]

ele dmg yes she cool

[sly drift]

Is this correct calculation or am i seeing shit

[deft badger]

but its not like its a huge game changer what she does

[turbid badge]

how many targets

[sly drift]

Only 1

[jovial nest]

no fucking wonder

[sly drift]

Shining s2 mod 2 vs ejya S1 vs lumen s3 mod 2

[jovial nest]

Eyja's S1 and S3 allows her to heal multiple

[quick pecan]

the two really interesting things she does are

enmity elemental dmg heal

[turbid badge]

max hp increase for my crushers

woughh

[quick pecan]

and max hp buff

[deft badger]

can u add a blemi to that i wanna see the hps pls 😄

[sly drift]

Nono.. I mean ejya s1 heals waay too high even for single target

[jovial nest]

i mean....yes

[dark glade]

yes

[jovial nest]

it's almost near Lumen's

[dark glade]

[jovial nest]

if not better

due to her stacking miniheals

[deft badger]

i wanna see blemi s3 hps 😄

[jovial nest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTTzLUYf-d4

here's a pretty good picture

there are few instances where Lumen will win

and its mostly based on how his S3 cleanse will excel

over Eyja's ele dmg

[spark sinew]

isn't it because eyja is double target

no i did not watch the vid

[sly drift]

The problem with blemi is she doesn't heal unless on skill. So can't really compare that to actual healer lol

And need enemy to hit somehow

[jovial nest]

even if one target, Eyja starts rivalling Lumen's heal output once she gets her stacks going

[turbid badge]

wow the biggest brain

i didnt watch the video either

[sly drift]

But still can't rival shining s2 eh. Her shield doesn't even counted here.

[spark sinew]

too late

[deft badger]

ty

[jovial nest]

that stops mattering if we're talking arts though

[foggy grove]

that one is with module bonus

below 50%

her hps is lower if you discount shield and def talent

[sly drift]

Yea

[spark sinew]

shining also wastes her shield a lot (even if we don't hold the fact that her range us way way worse)

[foggy grove]

but ye she is better afk healer then lumen
lumen only adv is range

[jovial nest]

still no

wandering and therapists just have their ranges reversed to one another

[sly drift]

Lumen only advantage is his stun cancel thingy

[wicked viper]

i think they mean shining vs lumen

[jovial nest]

so sometimes, I prefer Wandering's ranged due to how much you can isolate Wandering

[deft badger]

we have that badge i think?

yes its a bit lower

[jovial nest]

and have a good spread for your laners

[foggy grove]

ye i'm talking shining

[wicked viper]

but wandering medic still has better range than thrapist anyway

because wandering can heal outside of the londinium range

[turbid badge]

thats why i built mulberry

[jovial nest]

yeah the reverse cone shape of Wandering is just overall better for a healer

[jovial nest]

unless you're fighting ele dmg, don't

[turbid badge]

what

she goes hard shes already e2

[jovial nest]

did you actually raise Mul over other medic options?

just cause of Wandering range?

[turbid badge]

oh i have like 10 medics

[wicked viper]

there was a long period that wandering medic exist before honeyberry

[jovial nest]

and....you chose Mul

[deft badger]

just wanted to see the hps anyway, she did outheal my lumen on pinchout lol

[wicked viper]

so understandable if they already have one raised

[jovial nest]

sounds purely subjective

[quick pecan]

the tile placements in sl-8 are so wandering medic coded

[turbid badge]

no its just base coded

[jovial nest]

It's also Therapist based if you ignore the fire ele dmg

[turbid badge]

i always find the extra tiles at the end of wandering medic to work out

[quick pecan]

can’t ignore it when it melts my blue poison

[turbid badge]

sMe

[foggy grove]

most burst healer has better hps when their skill up

blem particularly have a very high burst healing

[sly drift]

Or course

[foggy grove]

ofc lumen won't compare

[turbid badge]

i use kal as a medic just for her range too monsters just a add on

[deft badger]

its not even that she is much on cd

[jovial nest]

Ptilo

[foggy grove]

kal range is nice yeah

[deft badger]

she gets it really fast back

if there are adds around her

[sly drift]

Only if kal can use s2 without monster there

[scarlet ledge]

😳

i love her

hello guys

[turbid badge]

grimgerde

[tall cairn]

which is why medics peaked on Ansel.

[jovial nest]

I prefer the wideness that Wandering/Therapist brings. Allows for easier map layouts and lessening medics/healers used.

[tall cairn]

[scarlet ledge]

yo jusan

how is pulls?

[deft badger]

yeah i love mine to...

[jovial nest]

took 91 for Eyjaberry. Pretty shit luck.

[scarlet ledge]

oof

[deft badger]

48 and i am done wasting my pulls if i get her for free in the coming days yes ty if not ty anyway i got a free chalter 😄

[latent monolith]

You can place monster outside her range

If it's somewhere no enemies hit

Not that common but like

you can cope

[turbid badge]

s1 can use w/o monster

[latent monolith]

Kal S1 best skill

[turbid badge]

yes

[scarlet ledge]

sharath

i finally got mulb

[foggy grove]

kal s1 best tank

[scarlet ledge]

😭

[turbid badge]

mulb

Omg

[latent monolith]

I think I'll pick april

[turbid badge]

Nice

[dark glade]

oh no he is starting to mulb

[turbid badge]

i picked her last time

[quick pecan]

mulberry too dank

[scarlet ledge]

idk who to get on alt kafka or pots

[dark glade]

wait i can get kafka and build base ops

[deft badger]

bruuh

[tall cairn]

Paprika Bibeak exist tho. Unless you like account dmg like me.

[dark glade]

[tall cairn]

[dark glade]

my paprika doesnt exist

[spark sinew]

there's also diamante

[turbid badge]

bobeak exists

[dark glade]

and i cant even buy bibeak

[spark sinew]

you probably shouldn't build kafka

[tall cairn]

When does Diamanté come.

[turbid badge]

red cert

[spark sinew]

her paradox also can't be completed at sl1

[quick pecan]

buying bibeak from selector

[spark sinew]

i needed sl1 lvl20 for that

[turbid badge]

m3ing irene s1 ruins dorothy stall right?

[spark sinew]

there are also cursed eben/pozy/gummy strats for teq combo

[tall cairn]

cursed doesn’t exist.

[turbid badge]

base is base

[spark sinew]

it's cursed because it's cursed

[turbid badge]

operator is operstor

[spark sinew]

not because it's like proviso/teq "cursed"

[tall cairn]

[turbid badge]

hauckindu please dont leave me

dont find another donberman

[tall cairn]

[wicked viper]

[quick pecan]

he’s passed around like the oripathy bracelets on rhodes island

he’ll cheat on u with twenty doberman

[wicked viper]

i prob wait til kazemaru or quercus shop first then pick the other one

[spark sinew]

don't be jealous

[jovial nest]

based on the 5* selector, I just got the only 5* that i didn't have, Kirara.

[spark sinew]

although i already see that you are

i only cheat on you

[quick pecan]

kirara is very good at being a part time aoe caster

[tall cairn]

[jovial nest]

if i want part time caster, it's Reedic

[quick pecan]

this is part time caster (derogatory)

not part time caster (affectionate)

[turbid badge]

(derogatory)

[long epoch]

Angelina is my part time caster.

[scarlet ledge]

lol

[little ravine]

does swire alter s2 (with module) give her two coins when it activates, so she ends with 3 champagne bottles each time you lose DP

[jovial nest]

Ange is also part time in her only job

there's no full time with her

[long epoch]

[hollow epoch]

What even is the targetting logic for the boss's vertical cloud strip thing? Is it most populated columm or most recently placed op?

[jovial nest]

i'll read enemy desc after this auto

[dark glade]

recently deployed

or mlynar

[spark sinew]

or lee
or penance s3

[jovial nest]

yeah nothing special on Dolly's targeting

[spark sinew]

just remembered the cursed yato2 baiting shots for mlynar

[jovial nest]

the only consdiration is

they will prio ground units

[sly drift]

Kal

[latent monolith]

Kal assumes you have S2 and cast it on cooldown iirc

Actually no it's a different chart

What even are the assumptions

[sly drift]

It's from dragondjy

[spark sinew]

is the crystal stage still kinda ass to farm

[jovial nest]

Kal is there cause it's considering healing....Mon3tr

or

[sly drift]

He elaborate everything on his video

[jovial nest]

Mon3tr is off range

[tall cairn]

0.9

[sly drift]

And yea ejya is nuts

[jovial nest]

But this is ST measurements as usual

[jovial nest]

Yeah i didn't care. I farmed Crystal stage because Aketon and Mangos are pretty high right now for me

[spark sinew]

i assume it's manga>keton then?

[jovial nest]

I'm not gonna farm event after i clean shop

[tall cairn]

Yes.

But only slightly.

[spark sinew]

almost tempted to farm crystals a bit
probably should

since we don't farm story much anyway so sub drops are not as needed

[jovial nest]

you lose a LOT of the mat value farming in events when you're not exactly low on it or if shop is cleared

[tall cairn]

that’s assuming I have mats.

[jovial nest]

I'm very low on Devices and near low in Roccs

I wanna farm those once shop is cleared

[spark sinew]

damn oyuki uses 6 op for trsut farming

[jovial nest]

although to get the best value....

i have to wait for EX and S maps

[tall cairn]

6op trust farm?

[jovial nest]

due to missions giving shop currency

[spark sinew]

6op afk trustfarm
i checked just how low people go

i mean kyo is uhhh

4 op, but damn

[jovial nest]

Dolly increasing trust farm count due to needing blockers AND ranged attackers

[spark sinew]

that's some firepower

[jovial nest]

Kal is their grounded dolly solution huh

[tall cairn]

[jovial nest]

or just laner in general

does steam act like DR?

[spark sinew]

can't just put whatever now although some ops are almost 200

[latent monolith]

Blue woman that does both

[spark sinew]

oh magallan soloes

[latent monolith]

[spark sinew]

ling needs 2 op

ling fell off

[tall cairn]

Maggie > Ling?

[jovial nest]

yeah i don't think Ling's "ranged damage" is enough to make Dolly quake on his boots

[turbid badge]

Yes

[spark sinew]

exalter is funny

[tall cairn]

Coming out of the rock mines to mine some crystal.

[spark sinew]

outhealing everything

[latent monolith]

I have yet to see a man who can outsmart shotgun

Or sheep for that matter

[jovial nest]

That Exalter has ranged help i reckon

[sly drift]

He just fking dead by simply having ranged enemies.

[jovial nest]

Those caster sheep ain't messing around with that range

and multishot when pink steamed

[spark sinew]

i didn't ping you for the "damn exalter can't solo heal BSL" even though he didn't dip below 80% hp

but i regularly see you letting your biases cloud your messages

be it with irene vs degen, or dunking on exalter

and i wonder why

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Cj41167W2/

[sly drift]

What?

[spark sinew]

you are the guy who threw a fit when i said irene was dead in the water aren't you
before even checking her numbers

[jovial nest]

your statement kind of works on ALL ground ops that can't hit air...

[sly drift]

I actually don't understand how that sheep explode works. The one that spreading pink or white cloud. Can u explain for me

[jovial nest]

try to read enemy desc

[sly drift]

Yea because that was before degen even released lmao

[jovial nest]

Irene was dead even before Degen released.

need so much off rec without Chen

she excels where her weaknesses don't matter

SSS

[sly drift]

Nah.. the thing is I didn't expect degen s3 to be "That" high because she does something else beside damaging

But she just straight broken

[jovial nest]

hilariously, Degen's debut really surfaced a LOT of Irene simps

quiet Irene simps finally started talking

I didn't know some people still used her

[hollow epoch]

Wdym needs blockers? I get the ranged bit to hit shield down, but does dolly get up much slower with someone blocking them or something?

[jovial nest]

there are enemies other than Dolly.

unless you can do an impressive Ranged-only SL-8

[hollow epoch]

Oh, thats what you mean

[latent monolith]

Look I still use gchen

[jovial nest]

SL-8 right now don't have those skateboard sheep

in other words... you can do ranged only

just very difficult

[sly drift]

I'm not even irene simp but I believe they will make irene have something that degen can't do but turns out degen completely powercrept irene so yeah. I'm coping that time was just a fool who didn't expect degen to be insanely broken lol

[jovial nest]

do not be surprised

there's no such thing as true balance

even with such cases that one has advantages over the other

one of em will be the better option for MOST situations

[crystal cargo]

i replaced kalsit with thorns and shining lol

[jovial nest]

in other words

imbalance

[long epoch]

AK balance is pretty terrible, it's fortunate that it's a single player game and you can mostly win maps by beating stage mechanics.

[jovial nest]

most games' balance are pretty terrible

cause a VERY balanced game becomes really boring as a con

[cosmic thicket]

too broken or not broken enough

i've seen people on both sides

[jovial nest]

the situation where everyone is balanced means

everyone is the same person

FUCKING BORING

[spark sinew]

we knew the numbers by then

she was released in cn, not a datamine or anything

🤔

[jovial nest]

Degen on paper was already a monster due to the talents

[spark sinew]

but yeah

[jovial nest]

and then we learned that S3 was autorec

and she became ridiculous

[latent monolith]

Chen still has sp rec useful niche

[jovial nest]

i mean

if you really want off rec help

it's mostly gonna be Stainless

instead of Chen

[latent monolith]

Yeah fair

I'll probably E2 him after eyja

I even pulled his pot on the banner

Surely a sign

[long epoch]

That's too exaggerated. Being in good balance means, you don't have too many horrible designed operators. HG should have buff several bad operators instead of patching them up by releasing modules. It's not really help that much.

[sly drift]

I unironically still like to use chen for that sp comps

It's fun

[latent monolith]

I use CY and exalt so it's not bad to help them charge

Sometimes blemi or mud too

Even penance occasionally

[cinder pike]

only buffing is hard but nerfing is also super hard for a gacha to do

[sly drift]

I think ak doing great by bringing back old ops to be at least useful by module

[halcyon adder]

Damn shit ops enjoyer

[jovial nest]

if you're a gacha, it's already over

there's no such thing as a very balanced gacha

[spark sinew]

those are the only non 200

[jovial nest]

because it dis-incentivizes pulling for new ops

[spark sinew]

cursed

oh, 5 ops

[jovial nest]

you're forgetting that modules ain't balance patches

they're "equipment"

they're free (needs no pulls) operator "equipment"

[spark sinew]

only you seem to think so jusan

[jovial nest]

because if you think they're balance patches

why do superior operators get them too?

[spark sinew]

they clearly are balance patches

just badly implemented

[cosmic thicket]

in this case drawing the line on who gets a mod and who doesn't is really scuffed

[jovial nest]

its unfair to have ops to have 0 mods though since they designed it as equipment

[spark sinew]

like two different teams working in parallel and not communicating with each other

[cinder pike]

the issue is that you have to convice people that new characters are worth pulling

[jovial nest]

and not balance patches

[spark sinew]

look at the very first mods, like pass

[latent monolith]

I mean the balance factor can be that good ops get poor mods and poor ops can get good mods

[cinder pike]

so they usually have to be meta, and if everyone is meta, no one is

[long epoch]

Remember some ops who really need mods to be 'completed'.

[jovial nest]

they can't exactly make weakest operators have godlike mods and strong af operators have weak af mods

[latent monolith]

They can't do that 100% of the time but they can still do better

[jovial nest]

Mods will make weaker ops be very strong

but the stronger ops will become stronger

the gap didn't decrease

[cinder pike]

Like bagpipe

[surreal star]

maybe if you make the stronger ops stronger but not as much

[sly drift]

I'm kinda agree to jusan. Mod clearly isn't mean to balance(Like, equal to current meta) they just help older ops to be at least useful and keep up with current enemies

[jovial nest]

yeah good luck with that

like i said

Modules aren't balance patches

they're equipment

balance patches should not be unequippable

why can you undo your so-called "balance patches?"

[turbid badge]

what

[spark sinew]

because you pay for them

[cinder pike]

it is what it is

[spark sinew]

that said even here HG are stingy

[cinder pike]

it like not E2ing your unit and calling it washed up

[jovial nest]

you can click this and be moduleless.

@turbid badge

[turbid badge]

oh i was thinking more of the level

[spark sinew]

some ops are clearly defective without module

[jovial nest]

yeah so i don't get why people think modules are balance patches. Balance patches means they plan to lessen the strength gap

it ain't

its more of

[spark sinew]

you can also not level skills or level, but that doesn't mean devs intended you to do so

[jovial nest]

modules will make weak af ops be strong

but that also will make strong af ops be stronger

[turbid badge]

what is “equipment” idk i only know that from AS

[jovial nest]

you really don't see this shit as operator weapons/equipment?

it even gives some flat stats

[long epoch]

Another problem is actually it takes a lot of effort to get the modules so getting several of them for your niches operators is not exactly fun.

[jovial nest]

except the weaker the ops

the fewer the mats used anyway

[turbid badge]

why we getting so much equipment doe

[jovial nest]

unless we;re talking like

....Hool/Vigil mods

which are most likely both expensive and almost not worth it

[turbid badge]

they dont even exist..

[jovial nest]

they will

[foggy grove]

lol

[jovial nest]

thats the thing

[turbid badge]

eh hg has 3 chances for vigil

[jovial nest]

its not a balance patch if everyone gets a "buff"

[turbid badge]

hopefully something good comes around

[jovial nest]

there's only "many" for 6* since they have 2 talents of choice to specialize in

[turbid badge]

but now there 3

[jovial nest]

so far none has gotten Eben treatment

[spark sinew]

permanently buffing in gacha is very dangerous

[jovial nest]

so i don't know how slow they will implement it

[spark sinew]

you can't revert it

[jovial nest]

and thats why these modules aren't "buffs/balance patches"

they're equipment (applies to all) /reversible skill trees (only applies to 6*)

[wicked viper]

being stronger with expensive investment is fairly fitting

since ya still have to consider the extra investment when comparing to existing units

[spark sinew]

it's just semantics, call it whatever you want, but some modules are clearly stronger on purpose

[jovial nest]

modules are the late game equipment you only give to a chosen few

[long epoch]

Yeah, that's feel bad when comparing with shitty ops with barely usable mods.

[spark sinew]

to the point of them being mandatory for unit to perform

[jovial nest]

cause they're beyond masteries

mandatory is still subjective

[long epoch]

Eben took lots of attempt to be barely usable.

[jovial nest]

moduleless Spelter is still useable

but no one's forcing you to use her either

[long epoch]

'Usable'

[jovial nest]

"mandatory" my ass

it's only mandatory if you want to use the unit

[spark sinew]

lol

[long epoch]

Of course because balance in AK in stage design is barely held together by gimmicks.

[jovial nest]

right now I would love to undo a LOT of module investments I've done

cause I no longer like using those units

their "mandatory" nature stops mattering

[turbid badge]

is it that bad

[spark sinew]

you're missing my point

they're mandatory if you want to use the unit yes

[jovial nest]

the lack of data blocks? absolutely

[scarlet ledge]

bruh spec2 mandatory module

thats kek i see

[spark sinew]

because they're literally almost balance patches or whatever you want to call them

[jovial nest]

modules are mandatory in the same way as some power spike masteries

can you use em SL7? absolutely

[spark sinew]

go use exalter without module
or lin

[jovial nest]

do you want them better? Go for it

I have

and lets just say, she's still strong

[spark sinew]

lol

[scarlet ledge]

my lin is no module too

[turbid badge]

why no mastery

[jovial nest]

because Casters amirite

[scarlet ledge]

feet

[cyan gorge]

My Lin mod 1 and I still use her fine

[scarlet ledge]

omg is that

zenith

[turbid badge]

bird boy

[cyan gorge]

yes I live

[spark sinew]

if you never used moduled one, then sure
ig exalter is better comparison

[cyan gorge]

I don't think Exalter is as egregiously bad without mod as you say

[spark sinew]

oh i'm not saying he's bad

[jovial nest]

I use a lot of ops that aren't moduled. And that's not including the exceptionally powerful ones that still don't have modules that you have already seen a dozen times when I'm completing my dream team