strategy

[scarlet mortar]

do the POO thing and drop the mechs to 1hp before they wake up

then let the blobs get to the machine and oneshot

[turbid badge]

i mean atleast they made the robots be unactivated in some maps

[quick pecan]

oh wait i lied i had horn

but idk i didn’t do her last s3 mastery bc brokie

[turbid badge]

pretend that emoji is the one with the wierd face

[scarlet mortar]

honestly i say that but then maps like EX-5 or sth exist with like a morbillion goo

[vernal lion]

that is before boss fight

[quick pecan]

lots of arts damage

[vernal lion]

mf just auto activates all the mechs on field

[scarlet mortar]

kill mech before kill boss

[glass monolith]

What mech? - Astgenne

[scarlet mortar]

shrimple

[turbid badge]

9000??

90 reedic but chong and ex 70

[quick pecan]

we real brokie hours

don’t judge

she’s asmr waifu

[vernal lion]

I mean, for benefit, DV is still more for enemy than us

[quick pecan]

dorothy event rerun will be fun with exalt

whole time everyone kept going arts damage this arts damage that

i will brute force the gundams with shotgun

[fringe jackal]

SL event without Typhon

[vernal lion]

it threaten us to defend the mech, before it goes on rushing

[quick pecan]

@turbid badge i also really simp saria

that’s why she’s the other 90

e2 90 mod y lvl 3 m6

i will probably never use her s3

so no masteries

[vernal lion]

just use Rosa

[turbid badge]

m6??

[glass monolith]

DoS Without Typhon

[spark sinew]

s1 canta default

[quick pecan]

s1m3 s2m3

[turbid badge]

i thought waifs always m9

[foggy grove]

i can't wait for sl to comes just to see if it's as bad as people say

[spark sinew]

i always knew you weren't trustworthy

[quick pecan]

i don’t use her s2

it’s just a worse ines

[vernal lion]

SL is not bad tho, ppl who don't follow mechanism will feel it hard

[turbid badge]

why wouldnt u use saria s3? your using ayerscarpe s2 no

[glass monolith]

What is SL?

[tidal sedge]

So Long Adele

[spark sinew]

s1 is also just way shittier ines s3 so

[glass monolith]

I won't follow shit (loads shotgun)

[foggy grove]

your dmg red vs the mechanic

[turbid badge]

ill kill the red sheep with amiya s3

[foggy grove]

loads out your ah,quercus,stainless

[vernal lion]

3 sheep casters on pink tile belike:

[turbid badge]

[quick pecan]

realistically i only use canta in 5* knights

i don’t really have any frd / assassin outside of her and maybe specter for that role so her having higher atk is preferable

if i use 6* canta just doesn’t get used

and wasting specter on a caster just feels bad so canta doubles up for that outside of dp gen

[tidal sedge]

Do you not have Kazemaru?

[limpid siren]

cantabile didn't live up to her hype

[tidal sedge]

Thats a common thing with vgs isn't it

[tall cairn]

I like Canta.

[foggy grove]

ines does live up tbh

[tidal sedge]

Just used Mlynar for easy Low End

High End just Chongyue

[limpid siren]

nothing wrong with liking cantabile

but people pretended she was the second coming of jesus

[vernal lion]

it's called 3 star clear

[scarlet ledge]

i use canta s2 more than s1

[vernal lion]

me too

[limpid siren]

i guess?

[tidal sedge]

Yeah but can 3 stars get 600 points?

[limpid siren]

not many vanguards have been as hyped as cantabile though

[vernal lion]

???

[tidal sedge]

Thats true

[turbid badge]

wrong map

[scarlet ledge]

true

[foggy grove]

ye there is crazy hype for canta

like she'll massively change vg meta

[tidal sedge]

But a lot of vg hype seems to come from CC performance

[vernal lion]

I mean, s2 with ammo and camo, how good can it be tho

[limpid siren]

yea

i won't deny that cantabile has still been relevant for some cc clears

but like

puzzle has also shown up

[latent monolith]

Ines felt like she was less hyped

[turbid badge]

s2 i only use for the camo if i cant find use for the camo ill just use s1

[limpid siren]

and the people hate puzzle

[turbid badge]

thats so real

[tidal sedge]

[quick pecan]

i honestly value canta for stationary targets more than early mob cheap shots she was really nice for tight dp in pinch out

[limpid siren]

yea

[quick pecan]

the hate is honestly overblown

offensive sp dislikers real loud

[turbid badge]

canta start in fake waves dodge rng

[spark sinew]

did you use puzzle

[quick pecan]

like i’m not gonna say he’s better than canta ofc

[limpid siren]

i've mucked around with him a bit

[scarlet ledge]

i use puzzle

[tidal sedge]

Hm. That is also true. I guess it comes down to whoever hypes them

[spark sinew]

he's so much clunkier

[scarlet ledge]

on my alt alot

[quick pecan]

but looking at his kit overall it is not that bad

[vernal lion]

did you use puzzle for CW ball

[foggy grove]

stronk dp

[scarlet ledge]

his kit aint bad

[quick pecan]

and he has his gimmicks

[limpid siren]

i'm not going to try and deny he's the weakest agent

[scarlet ledge]

bro s2 poison urgh

i love it

[surreal star]

lmao i tried it but i got too frustrated with the balls moving around

[limpid siren]

i just don't think he deserves the sheer hatred he gets

[turbid badge]

the purple color is so cool

[quick pecan]

i agree

igneus real and factual

[soft crystal]

Puzzle is really cool

[scarlet ledge]

kek i use him on ex 8 cm

fun

at cw

[limpid siren]

wtf pro

[turbid badge]

wtf pro

i just played wildmane weedy pingpong

[quick pecan]

puzzle skin looks so good

i want it now

[turbid badge]

it is

[latent monolith]

nnowadays my vgs are Ines siege and occasionally ely

[turbid badge]

waow suege

i like her s3

[scarlet ledge]

but ye puzzle aint bad

[latent monolith]

my bag in still unraised

[scarlet ledge]

usual standard skill for me is s1

[vernal lion]

call him Puzzle but he solves the problem with his knife

[scarlet ledge]

i only being s2 for targetted big mob

since poison stack is fucking disgusting

[turbid badge]

leite spell correctly

[scarlet ledge]

cant

guys saga seems forgotten

i always see now is flametail

ines

sail myrtle

[vernal lion]

because no one using the sp talent from her

[scarlet ledge]

bagpipe

[vernal lion]

unless you want to see Ling Saga duo MB anni

[tidal sedge]

I don't see Flametail talked about much either tbh. Outside of being bad starter 6*

[scarlet ledge]

bad starter?

[tidal sedge]

Smth smth reroll for Mountain

[glass monolith]

Start Suzu to save 180 gold certs

[scarlet ledge]

this is my tierlist on new beginner banner

[turbid badge]

leite list

[latent monolith]

theres the funny siege Lee etc 5 step clear of OD anni

[spark sinew]

just get 3 suzus from kernel permits

[scarlet ledge]

MOUNTAIN > FLAMETAIL/CHETTO > WEEDY/THORNS > THE CHILD

[turbid badge]

the child

[latent monolith]

weedy above suzu?

[vernal lion]

the reason why Flametail doesn't get much attention because of evasion kit

[scarlet ledge]

weedy still better ealry game

[turbid badge]

speaking of suzu dont forget her modules really good

[latent monolith]

ig for completely new players fair

[vernal lion]

they care about self sustain and big atk number

[latent monolith]

isnt it like 4 fragile

[spark sinew]

is this beginner banner tierlist for beginners or for people with 5 accs in different servers

cause if it's the latter i disagree

[scarlet ledge]

wtf

i only have 1 acc

[spark sinew]

sure you do

[vernal lion]

I feel like I only use her in SSS, because of s2

almost like Texas s2

fast dp helidrop

[spark sinew]

?

[turbid badge]

yea and 16 enfeeble

free pot

[spark sinew]

just because they're better than dobber mod2 doesn't make them really good

[quick pecan]

the enfeeble is a nice edition imo

[scarlet ledge]

last time i used suzuran is on....

[latent monolith]

dober mod good for 3 star only!!! (it's their only one)

[scarlet ledge]

uhhh

cc

[vernal lion]

I wonder who can solo this stage too

[spark sinew]

which one was that

but i mean you can go to arkrec and see

[delicate blaze]

is it okay to level up promoted character or it's okay if they stay level 1 at the moment?

[tidal sedge]

Its pretty cheap to give them a few levels after promotion

[scarlet ledge]

@vernal lion im forced to play is2... i need mats

[vernal lion]

tw account?

[latent monolith]

there's a billion solos

[vernal lion]

yea I saw that

[scarlet ledge]

👺

[spark sinew]

top tier ops

almost looks like 4* only run

[delicate blaze]

I just started playing a week a go I only have few level up material

[tidal sedge]

Even like e1/e2 20 is very little

[turbid badge]

i can hear leites phone sizziling from across the web

[scarlet ledge]

its ok

its only sizzle when i play BA for long

[spark sinew]

BA

korean AK acc soon?

or already

[scarlet ledge]

wtf

i wont play kr

its just the same as jp

but without insane jp whale

so no free 10hh

[spark sinew]

oh yeah...

limited soon

good call

[vernal lion]

@scarlet ledge BN got stormed

[scarlet ledge]

bruhe

@spark sinew jp broke rn
no exp to straight lvl 70 humus balls

[spark sinew]

70 chestnut

[scarlet ledge]

jp is 4★ only

but i retired playing it for 2.5 years

moved to 5★ only

[spark sinew]

i think this is first time i seen his e2 art

[vernal lion]

chestnut is good too tho

proc s1 when needed

[scarlet ledge]

chestnut is good but he very niche to use even on 4★ only

[vernal lion]

s2 is funny burst healing

[spark sinew]

don't both his skills only affect ED

[scarlet ledge]

@spark sinew bro

i only used chest nut fucking two times

on chp10

[spark sinew]

exactly

every time i got him for free in IS i was like...dude

ok, s2 gives atkspd as well

just very shitty range

and you're locked into it for 35 seconds

[foggy grove]

when he heals the same target it heals more

stronk fr

[tidal sedge]

Chestnut gets pretty funny in IS with spinach/pasta

[scarlet ledge]

@spark sinew https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588958885150721/1183418738335289385/Screenrecording_20231210_224057.mp4?ex=65ad2d96&is=659ab896&hm=740674f84a56e5cd64df20b0b379f0d6ee86750522a4f76a893516805e9c0515&

my jp ops

humus not there on the video

[sly drift]

Just tried mama john sss hard mode for the first time

This shit surprisingly hard without proper preparation

[soft crystal]

I breezed through it

5 guard mlynar on boss and delete her

[vernal lion]

boss isn't issue, it's lanehold

[foggy grove]

the boss is like uh the very forgettable part of the map

it's just lane holding several lanes

[vernal lion]

even hold 1 lane like in TL-5, it's still overwhelmed shit

[tropic valve]

10 stack schwarz for me

[vernal lion]

2 vgA, 2 guardA/B, 2 sniperA, 2 casterA/B and 2 specB

[lethal dragon]

And she can finally start dealing dmg

[tidal sedge]

Respect Magallan

[limpid siren]

why

[tidal sedge]

Well she might be still the efficient summoner for Rock Hell 1-7

[spark sinew]

depends on your farm method for 1-7

[limpid siren]

the difference is peanuts

[vernal lion]

why are you farming rock

[tidal sedge]

I think I remembered the video explaining about her farming 1-7

[spark sinew]

something like blaze is easier to add/change ops from the auto

[tidal sedge]

This one old guide:

https://youtu.be/B_xjzBMAoeM?si=zZoM71mAIVQTwhP4

I still have her unbuilt idk

[limpid siren]

peteryr is cool but farming 1-7 isn't

[vernal lion]

don't question mark me

[limpid siren]

if i want rocks i farm events

farming 1-7 is for when i'm making ao

[spark sinew]

i will question mark you

[vernal lion]

I'm asking

[tidal sedge]

Btw if you want to purely farm 1-7, you'll need 31444 Orirock Cubes to max all Operators in game (modules + masteries)

[spark sinew]

unless you're phone only gamer (hi leite) i really don't get the aversion to 1-7

holy strats

[limpid siren]

farming 1-7 is vogue

the aversion you're talking about is people that can't be fucked to spend thirty minutes babysitting their emulator

[spark sinew]

we both know you don't need that

[tidal sedge]

Well you can speedrun 0-1 if you want

[spark sinew]

no one was ever punished for it

but i still won't talk about the "strat" in this server

[vernal lion]

you still need to farm chip, are you kidding me if you just need rock?

[limpid siren]

damn you'll bait harder than i will

[vernal lion]

also chip catalyst

[glass monolith]

Sounds like fake, no way you need only 31.4k rock

[vernal lion]

and mod block

[spark sinew]

i had good mentors

if i can call them that

[tidal sedge]

Not including CN operators

[scarlet ledge]

bro?

k

i use magallan alot not for just 1-7

[spark sinew]

with your maga you can do relicless 5 op izumik!

[scarlet ledge]

ngl only my cn is e0 mag

en both and jp have m9 mag

[spark sinew]

i remember like...2 times wanting to use s2 mag

i wonder how many times you used it

[tall cairn]

S2 Mag.

what does it even do.

[spark sinew]

hey it was not that bad when she released

but janky, yes

[glass monolith]

When i started AK i used drones to bait enemy attacks. Then i unlocked camo on deploy talent, this game sucks

[vernal lion]

yea, but it's not aoe, so still sucked

[tall cairn]

I only use S3 Mag.

[spark sinew]

it's aoe though isn't it

[vernal lion]

read

[vernal lion]

it's only aoe when skill

[spark sinew]

?

[tall cairn]

?

[glass monolith]

[spark sinew]

don't make it look like you used s2 for damage offskill

no one did

[vernal lion]

yea, but the drone disapperance does

you want to redeploy each time?

[spark sinew]

that's what you do, yes

🤔

[vernal lion]

it only works if you lacking dmg

[spark sinew]

if your maga can do kill stuff offskill you probably overkilled the stage already

s2 had kinda shit dmg and hard to aim on regular targets

[vernal lion]

we have better squad than just Magallan only

unless you do summoner clear

[scarlet ledge]

i come

[vernal lion]

no one wants to waste much the resource just for a supporter tho

that's the thing

[spark sinew]

sure, i was just answering "it's not aoe so it's bad"
it's aoe on skill and it would probably still bad if you stuffed aoe offskill on it

[vernal lion]

if you want an aoe skill, then it's just s3

[scarlet ledge]

i only use s1 if need stall

s2 is kek

i just use it if i feel like it

[spark sinew]

very different tiles and different damage type

[spark sinew]

but as i said, yes. s2 is pretty meh

[vernal lion]

then just don't use

I have never touched s2 because I know clearly how sucked it was

[scarlet ledge]

@spark sinew https://youtu.be/Id40hXS-Xz0?si=aga1KDm9F9Oc5xyN

wdym s2 mag peak

old leite clear be like

[vernal lion]

just use s1 for stalling tho

[scarlet ledge]

damn seeing this is fun ngl

i just do whatever

[vernal lion]

yea, I do m9 SA

[spark sinew]

s3 saria, peak

[vernal lion]

currently no book, so yea, Eyja event await

[scarlet ledge]

nice books

[spark sinew]

no sugar, how

[tidal sedge]

Nice bro you don't have Mountain

[vernal lion]

seems like book is my prio now

[spark sinew]

i have like 20 of those **

[vernal lion]

I do

[spark sinew]

hey i was thinking to s2m3 SA as well for maleknights

but it's probably better to just wait bassline

[vernal lion]

have you considered that you upgrade mastery for your op

[scarlet ledge]

bro so good on yapping

[spark sinew]

i did all the weird stuff yes

[vernal lion]

funny enough, Mountain can't survive the IS hitman while SA does

[spark sinew]

ange m6, schwarz and whatever else

[scarlet ledge]

my alt have lots of weird stuf @spark sinew

[spark sinew]

there's broca that eats sugar i think but i won't raise broca

newer ops don't seem to use this sugar

[tall cairn]

I have 32 sugar.

[spark sinew]

i think i also had 3 or 4 of those purple sugars to drop in a row

[glass monolith]

Time to mastery S2 SA for rerun

[vernal lion]

@scarlet ledge wanna see how cursed my mastery for now

[scarlet ledge]

wtf

[spark sinew]

i even have screenshots with exp bar, showing that it was indeed in a row but it's been so long i got banned from that server

non-irene haver behaviour

[vernal lion]

I have too many mastery upgrades to do tho

[tidal sedge]

Sticking to m2 for 6* isn't that unreasonable

M3 is quite the mat sink

[spark sinew]

||we have 6 months foresight so just farm in advance ||

[vernal lion]

wanna m9 him too, since s2 is good for helidrop in some map

[spark sinew]

but depends on operator i suppose
with irene it feels a bit meh to stop at m2

[scarlet ledge]

fuck you giys

now you reminded me to e2 my irene on main

i havent e2 her...

for base

[vernal lion]

that's why you can't get Leto

such a karma

[spark sinew]

good base op, truly idk why i sl7

[scarlet ledge]

lol

[spark sinew]

now with degen existing...

[fresh copper]

Powercreep is inevitable

[limpid siren]

it's necessary

[polar crane]

sl7 for paradox

[limpid siren]

you can't have a live service game without power creep

there's not enough interesting design space to keep satisfying the majority of the playerbase

[vernal lion]

@scarlet ledge this shit looks funny as heck lol

[scarlet ledge]

i use s2 on that

[shadow sky]

Are there resources for annihilations

[vernal lion]

for first time clear

weekly it just resets the orundum to clear and gain it again

[polar crane]

same

[scarlet ledge]

@polar crane kek username destroying my braincells

😭

i cant

[polar crane]

what kek username

[vernal lion]

btw forgot to say that the flame ghost enemy can deal burn dmg when there's at least a burning reed near them,
so players may still want to use honeyberry if they don't want to get stormed by the elemental burst dmg

[glass monolith]

Or be smarts about elemental damage. AT LEAST UNTIL STUPID SISTER SET EVERYTHING ON FIRE FOR LULZ

[serene umbra]

Hello ! Can I ask here if the new operators who will come in global are good ?

Also✨

[scarlet ledge]

anni up

[vernal lion]

work on it now

[dark glade]

time to fail on annihilation

fun

[fresh copper]

gl

[spark sinew]

eyja is good

[jovial nest]

new anni, right?

[tall cairn]

Ye.

[jovial nest]

I'm just gonna bring my A-team without even considering what happens

I gotta prove that my favorite team can deal with almost anything (still incomplete)

[spark sinew]

wasting slots instead of doing 4 op

i mean anni is so easy it's hardly a proof

do H12-4/h8-4

[jovial nest]

i got 3 ops left (may become 4 in Adele) that aren't 200% trust

so thats no longer much of an incentive

[jovial nest]

No i meant it still has to deliver even if it's not made for mob fights

H8-4 is always problematic but that does intrigue me to do it once i finish my squad.

[foggy grove]

watch me fail

[jovial nest]

as for H12-4...really? thats a benchmark?

I barely cooked in that one

[spark sinew]

that's a harder stage yes

[jovial nest]

yeah i guess it's gonna be marginally harder without the Abyssals really downplaying some lanes

[scarlet mortar]

H12-4 is hard bc it's an everything check, which is really problematic for niches

but like, for 12 man squads it's.... probs irrelevant

[jovial nest]

I always considered that my dream team kinda feels low on ground laners. But I did consider that it might be supplemented by the FRDs

either way....

I need up to Degen to test it

[scarlet mortar]

you might as well call it a body check bc the more ground ops you bring the more control you have

and more importantly the less you have to redeploy the more expensive ops

[jovial nest]

tchm unfortunate (or maybe fortunate in terms sanity) that I don't have Eyjaberry for my team yet

[scarlet mortar]

one day left to go

[jovial nest]

of course with new annis means a huge injection of red certs

yummy

[spark sinew]

should be wild overkill since it's basically just 2 more healing bodies added to 4 op
although left blue box lane is worrying, i never saw how exactly map proceeds

[scarlet ledge]

pro

[spark sinew]

that was uncalled for

such a meanie

[jovial nest]

once again I have to sub some stuff in

[spice mortar]

Should i change anythinf

[vernal lion]

yes

Ros will turn into a BBQ cat

[spice mortar]

She's doing fine for now

[solid dew]

casters go up there

[vernal lion]

but I'm pretty sure she will be, for later

[foggy grove]

ye till the reed start burning

then she is bbq

[spice mortar]

Yeah it's burning but she's still full hp

[foggy grove]

i put my insider there and he explode

[spark sinew]

boss will light everything up, so...

[vernal lion]

remember her?

[gray jewel]

weird question, can you trust farm s3-4 with Mayer

[spark sinew]

but she's redundant anyway

[spice mortar]

No

[vernal lion]

now you will remember

[solid dew]

ngl she felt way easier in the anni then in event

[foggy grove]

oh the boss is out on mine

[spark sinew]

she has lower stats or something

[vernal lion]

yea because she's modified

[scarlet ledge]

annoying there is global sniper

[solid dew]

ah nerfed into the ground right. that probably explains it lol

[spice mortar]

Agree

[jovial nest]

Setup done without Myrtle (Myrtle was my supposed 13th ops but I'm setting up an auto)

[spark sinew]

buffed chongyue works as solo dps, but you also have blaze and thorns, so nothing to fear

[solid dew]

hoshi S2M3 users 🔥

[jovial nest]

too many subs for my liking

[scarlet ledge]

meanwhile me

[spark sinew]

pic for ants

[spice mortar]

Should i place blaze behind chong

[glass monolith]

Stupid EB spoiled me all fun

[spark sinew]

oh she shows up on 350? zzz

[jovial nest]

I'm just making Ines get more DP for the inevitable nuking I'm bringing down

[foggy grove]

my saria ded let me try to salavage this

[glass monolith]

And i think 370+ arrive when you kill Phase 1

[scarlet ledge]

feet

now gonna watch this if setup survive or not

[glass monolith]

Time to execute Epic gay strategy - Stainless S2 device prevents burn spread

[scarlet ledge]

lol

[karmic glade]

Seige sure won't survive, elbana came that way

[vernal lion]

alright let's try this

[jovial nest]

weird Thorns area...

[vernal lion]

yea I know

[spark sinew]

oh wow saria is taking quite a beating

[glass monolith]

If it works it works (it doesn't work)

[dark glade]

uncle saving me again

[spark sinew]

but ig she doesn't die

sasuga 4 op clear billi dalao

[fringe jackal]

one day in fucking hell

[dark glade]

chungus W

[foggy grove]

it's done

[spark sinew]

although i think this would've leaked without nearl

weird

[glass monolith]

Which one of them is Nearl

[spark sinew]

is it pot locked for 4 op lmao

top one

[spice mortar]

Reduced to this

[jovial nest]

print more, Ines! There's no other VGs.

[vernal lion]

you can count that this event is not friendly

[foggy grove]

texas survive longer than i thought

[spark sinew]

it works, fully afk but i would rec to bring some damage, last wave lagged a bit, but it definitely reached nearl

[jovial nest]

Delicious with Skalter S2M3

Heh I do remember Reedic event's mobs really being rough if they just are spammed in fire

[fringe jackal]

I won't be able to auto this...

[spark sinew]

still no "collect all" button for annis....

[jovial nest]

but my incomplete dream team still has enough healing to go around

[vernal lion]

meanwhile, buring weeb deals arts dmg...

[scarlet ledge]

meteorite died

[spice mortar]

Ai karamba

[jovial nest]

15% reduction still and Saria will save herself with S1M3 as long as damage ain't OHKOing her

also this squad of mine wants Hoed

heh

[spice mortar]

Rosmontis can solo phase 1 at least

[jovial nest]

Cmon Eblana. I have my FRDs ready. Ines printed a lot of DP

[foggy grove]

i didn't think the dmg will be that high so i just use s2 lol

[spark sinew]

it's like bringing a war cannon to hunt sparrows

[jovial nest]

indeed

NGL....

Typhon being here over Chalter might've had one of the lanes be a bit worse since she can't solve one of the lanes due to her weird range

[scarlet ledge]

hell soon

[jovial nest]

done. sweeping time.

[foggy grove]

i forgor to farm guard chip for bryo

[lethal dragon]

Bruh how nerfed was eblana

[foggy grove]

she keel over too fast

[jovial nest]

i always make sure T1 and T2/dualchips are enough for my plans

[jovial nest]

very

it's anni

plus

Reedic event has Eblana in a non-farming map

[kindred galleon]

does eblana do arts or phys melee

[jovial nest]

cause it's pretty rough for an auto imo

[scarlet ledge]

time to restart

[jovial nest]

also iirc

[sly drift]

They purposely let eblana have no mob sacrifice for her shield she die so fast

[scarlet ledge]

i leak at 387

kek eblana jsut died to horn

[jovial nest]

Eblana's shield was meant for her to sacrifice her units

[scarlet ledge]

funni shit i seen

[jovial nest]

get a ton of HP barrier

[spice mortar]

The strat

[jovial nest]

and then her mob revives if you don't intervene

did she do it in anni?

i didn't pay too much attention

[scarlet ledge]

imma add thorns

since he is BROKEN

[dark glade]

she barely get a shield

[scarlet ledge]

[jovial nest]

yeah

[scarlet ledge]

she just died kek

[dark glade]

i remember her shield being so thicc chalter cant even scratch

[jovial nest]

without her map setting her up to Sacrifice a LOT of mobs

[scarlet ledge]

horn deal tons of damage on her

[jovial nest]

her shield is pathetic

[dark glade]

here she died to half mlynar skill

[scarlet ledge]

kek my alt clear will diff

...

aosta

[foggy grove]

arts,it's why the common strat to stall her back than is high hp unit like crusher or dreadnought

[scarlet ledge]

[jovial nest]

oh it's monthly SSS soon too.

[sly drift]

Normal eblana will be too hard for newer player for annihilation anyway

[jovial nest]

yeah

[scarlet ledge]

true

[jovial nest]

when an event makes the normal stage boss NOT a farm stage

it's formidable enough

i for sure know Kriede boss would've been a goddamn pain to auto

would need like specific solutions like Lee

[scarlet ledge]

lol

[foggy grove]

oh nvm event gives guard chip lol

[kindred galleon]

does reedic do more st dps on a single unit's worth of s2 or w s3

[jovial nest]

anyways got a taste of tank Saria

need Hoederer still for my preferred setup

[foggy grove]

i'm reedicless

[jovial nest]

to be specific

if my dream team was complete

I might've removed Skalter so I can have space for both Typhon and Reedic

[jovial nest]

you sure you want Thorns there?

the main corridors get a LOT of punishment

and Thorns ain't known for taking them

[jovial nest]

since the map is very moblike, I might've gone S3

[foggy grove]

but anyhow s2 prolly do more st dps yeah

[jovial nest]

due to the chain reaction explosions really carrying shit

S2 is when you really want those buffed with flames to really sustain them

[kindred galleon]

ah

[jovial nest]

although do consider that S2 kinda acts like AoE

but the enemies really get congested

in this anni map

So S3 is tempting

[foggy grove]

s2 is prolly overkill anyhow

[scarlet ledge]

new setup

[jovial nest]

not bad

Thorns and Horn can help whoever Saria's blocking

and Blaze helps Blem

[spice mortar]

Where else would i place thorns

Mudrocks indront of him rn

[jovial nest]

look at noobplayer's

you're making Thorns help only 1 area

but there is a benefit to being out more in the open

you can use more ranged tiles in the middle

[spice mortar]

True, ill see how this plays out for now

[spark sinew]

no guardians raised?

[spice mortar]

I only have cuora

And mud

[spark sinew]

you can do like kyo/oyuki did with their hoshi(cuora in your case) being like two tiles left of the mud

i think it just blocks the boss so you kill it

[spice mortar]

Killed the boss but uhh

[dark glade]

i thought he place thorns there because he watch kyo/oyuki

because that thorns position doesnt hit much

[spice mortar]

Ill try again

[dark glade]

wait hwre is dp

why sa still 20 cost and you leak

[spice mortar]

Poofed when myrtle died

[dark glade]

[spark sinew]

sure but then it doesn't do much because the point is to whittle boss down while it's blocked by a tank?

[dark glade]

yea on oyuki/kyo afk thorns clear the stuff blocked by hoshi

and the eblana chains too

thats his main role while the main lane get cleaned by blaze

on full team he do a good job

[spark sinew]

he does a good job in annis

enemies are weak

[spark sinew]

first 350 don't matter so he can rampup

[jovial nest]

yeah

in every anni

the actual difficulty starts in 350

wait

when does Blood Knight appear?

[spark sinew]

that wasn't a compliment btw

[dark glade]

kazmier anni

[spark sinew]

but yeah

[dark glade]

that one

the NL anni

[jovial nest]

i meant which portion of the wave?

[dark glade]

point to NL anni

350 too

[jovial nest]

ah

[dark glade]

pretty sure

[jovial nest]

it really is the wake up call

[spice mortar]

Should i borrow a horn instead of chong

[dark glade]

wait its actually not 350 flat

[jovial nest]

yeah i remember BK ain't 350

[spark sinew]

oh you're borrowing chong why

[jovial nest]

it would be rough if he joined the huge waves

[jovial nest]

cause of you

[foggy grove]

chong carry harder ngl

[spark sinew]

i would borrow saria or just change the strat

[foggy grove]

since he can handle both lane

[spark sinew]

chong without skalter is like

i guess he's not terrible but

[dark glade]

thats a weird wave to spawn

[tall cairn]

deadge.

[dark glade]

but i guess this one because they spawn the debuffer 1st

that make sense

[jovial nest]

its cause he doesn't move asap

[spark sinew]

why would you trust either of the new players with towa pfp

[jovial nest]

they most likely timed him so that he doesn't join in a death wave

[dark glade]

but the 350 wave are tame

[jovial nest]

I don't know this Towa

[dark glade]

just 2 bloodboil afk and 1 debuffed and 1 plastic knight

[spark sinew]

good thing you don't

the important part is to not trust those people

[tall cairn]

so, can’t trust you.

[jovial nest]

indeed

[dark glade]

[tall cairn]

Can’t trust = can trust?

[spark sinew]

exactly

[tall cairn]

[jovial nest]

I see a goddamn lack of Exalter in the Annis (in this channel).

[spark sinew]

you should always double check everything regardless, but some pfps are less trustworthy

[foggy grove]

you saw mine wdym

smh

[spark sinew]

this anni is bad for him
he's present in like every low op clear for SL though

[jovial nest]

only you (speaking to new player or something)

[tall cairn]

[sly drift]

I use him and he keep dying even though I put skalter beside him

[jovial nest]

welcome to relying on lifesteal and Bard heals

[sly drift]

I even use chen sp support

[spark sinew]

use the secret stainless tech

[sly drift]

In the end it just chongyue who carried team

[fringe jackal]

everything died except mlynar, skalter, kaltsit and mudrock
at the very end when 20 enemies were running at the exit, mlynar finally came off cooldown and I won by sheer luck

this anni

[jovial nest]

ngl

It's kind of hilarious how much healing potential my dream team build actually has. I guess it ain't exactly overkill when I'm planning on using Hoed

[spice mortar]

Saria for the extra heals? But then im relying on thorns + blaze for the lanes and blaze does not have the dps even if i place thorns where hes hitting both lanes

[spark sinew]

I'm curious why you don't have enough dps

you should probably do something similar to oyuki strat btw

[jovial nest]

not enough burstiness?

[jovial nest]

issues with placement?

[spark sinew]

they basically have all your ops in their setup

[spice mortar]

Not high enough lvl

Oyuki?

[jovial nest]

ngl

this anni spams those huge brutes that are REALLY tanky

and have revive potential if not killed fast

[sly drift]

This anni is about stats check and attack speed check

[scarlet ledge]

@jovial nest https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/658639480290279435/1196429376829521950/image.png?ex=65b798b0&is=65a523b0&hm=fb096c7c465c47a0a32ae9535d029c9c4e9206aa1e8b93d21cfe2ebabbe45307&

SUPREME ARTS

[sly drift]

Ofc it's myrtle

[jovial nest]

what's these?

in what context?

[sly drift]

Most used I think

[scarlet ledge]

top usage on each rarity

[jovial nest]

Ethan is 2nd place is weird af

[spice mortar]

Why is ethan used so muxh?

[tall cairn]

Honeyberry?

[jovial nest]

IS3 D0 heh

IS2 heh

[tall cairn]

[sly drift]

Yea honeyberry is what surprise me the most lol

[foggy grove]

he is?

[tall cairn]

Ethan is da best.

[spice mortar]

2nd most used 4* according to that pic

[spark sinew]

basically they used something like this (hoshi=cuora etc)
you probably don't need to borrow for that, just gotta activate some skills etc

[jovial nest]

either way are those HG polls or results?

[spice mortar]

Whats tbat healer next to shining?

[jovial nest]

Lumen

Eyjaberry incoming...

[dark glade]

[spice mortar]

I dont have lumen

[jovial nest]

jk

[dark glade]

ok i wont answer too let him be confused

[sly drift]

[spice mortar]

Maybe i do wait until eyja

[spark sinew]

it's honeyberry but just use your whisperain

[spice mortar]

Shes tomorrow right

[jovial nest]

It's Honeyberry

[spice mortar]

Oh

[jovial nest]

boof, how's your offensive capabilities

[timid schooner]

done

[spark sinew]

they posted roster above

[timid schooner]

did they nerf the boss on this anni map or smt

[spice mortar]

I like to think i throw a mean left hook

[timid schooner]

lol

[jovial nest]

cause i don't exactly recommend rolling for Eyjaberry if your offense kinda sucks

[dark glade]

nerfed + boss not having shield setup

[jovial nest]

and from what i saw it kinda is

[spice mortar]

But limited no?

[dark glade]

i only do 1st 6* then out

[jovial nest]

all that investment on Exu/marksman truly shows you were still early in your AK journey.

[dark glade]

according my track record i will get 2 swire alter

[jovial nest]

annis always nerf em

[spice mortar]

I stopped 2 years ago yeah

[jovial nest]

having the unadulterated normal stage boss in an anni isn't exactly something accessible

not for newer players

[spice mortar]

My newest unit is liubai

Qiubai*

I got her on kaltsit banner :((

[jovial nest]

save up for Typhon ngl

[spark sinew]

chewbai

[jovial nest]

you don't need Eyjaberry for now

[spice mortar]

But is eyja limited

[jovial nest]

unless you do plan on investing that long term

[spark sinew]

typhon ew

[jovial nest]

cause if you do plan on going srs

yes

[dark glade]

i knew you will shill her

[spark sinew]

also good mud default skill even if bad art

[jovial nest]

get limited as early as possible

[spark sinew]

that's how her name is pronounced by VA

[spice mortar]

I mean ofc im gonna pull on ejya

Even if shes not the best for my acc shes cute

Same reasoning why i went to hard pity for rosmontis

[spark sinew]

typhon is really weird, i'm not saying she gonna become outdated like thorns because she still has def shred, multitarget and stun, but...

[spice mortar]

And my dps not that bad, sa exu ros all have good burst

[jovial nest]

6 months from CN. Still relevant

[spark sinew]

6 months is not anything to measure her by

[jovial nest]

Exu burst kinda requires a buffer if we're talking anything formidable

unless you're only killing the likes of FN or Degenbrecher

[spice mortar]

Well 5* selector comint up

So im gonna grab warf

[spark sinew]

yeah if anything i would invest into Base ops

do something like shamare to double dip

[jovial nest]

Combat > Base

lemme be more specific

[spark sinew]

maybe don't

[jovial nest]

E1 Base ops skills > Combat ops > E2 base ops skills

[spark sinew]

medic overload

grab shamare or something else if you don't have

[spice mortar]

Dont have shamare

[jovial nest]

thats the point

[spice mortar]

But yeah i dont wanna e2 ops for base...

Not yet at leas

[spark sinew]

shamare > warf in combat by a mile

[jovial nest]

Shamare helps physical bursts

[spark sinew]

especially in this acc

[jovial nest]

and also nerfs enemy ATK by a lot

[spice mortar]

Sure then ill grab shamare

[jovial nest]

during doll activation

[spice mortar]

Btw what does lapp do there

[spark sinew]

i have 0 idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WXxssUN9mk

i don't really watch the vids

[jovial nest]

lemme check something

i might have an idea why

[dark glade]

i peek prts and...
this anni eblana has the same stats as event eblana

what

[spice mortar]

His lvls are way higher than mine damn

[jovial nest]

it ain't the EX version

[spark sinew]

you probably can just put sa there

[dark glade]

yes it just the normal stage ver

[spark sinew]

well it's afk strat

the skills are weaker and they lack the redeploy capabilities

[dark glade]

but i remember the normal stage ver giving me alot of headache

maybe it just mlynar diff

[spark sinew]

i heard she can only consume regular enemies, but when she spawns on anni there are only elite versions

or something like that

[dark glade]

ooh make sense

[jovial nest]

ok so

[dark glade]

the shield value is 50% per sacrifice

[jovial nest]

I checked Reedic event enemies desc

the reason lappland is there is...

its just additional arts dmg from ground

those are pretty rare for AFK stuff

[spark sinew]

qb s1 sweep

[dark glade]

i use guardmiya

[spark sinew]

worse range

[jovial nest]

you AFK with her?

[dark glade]

no mlynar is main dmg

my afk ops is only horn and saria

[spark sinew]

oh 5* selector will have that blonde abjurer

i really shouldn't raise another "medic"

[foggy grove]

raise anyhow

[spark sinew]

i'm already feeling like taking crazy pills, when seeing people with like 3 medics "damn i have too many, ez eyja skip"

[lapis hornet]

I have lumen eyja ez skip

[spark sinew]

i have ansel MAXED

easy skip

[foggy grove]

how did you read my mind

[dark glade]

i have MAXED spot double as a blocker, easy eyja skip

[jovial nest]

And here I am having my dream team have Reedic, Eyjaberry, Skalter, and Saria

[foggy grove]

i have maxed adna too,skipping typhon

[spice mortar]

Alright lets see how it goes

Texasalt panic button

[dark glade]

cuora pog

[jovial nest]

Some of these raises were for base, lulz.

[spark sinew]

good point, let's go full shizo and add suzu to the list of healers

too few healers, i need more

[tall cairn]

?

[foggy grove]

so paprika

[jovial nest]

either way

[spark sinew]

i don't have paprika at all

[jovial nest]

the reason why i feel like my squad isn't healing overkill

[foggy grove]

you don't have hung

[tall cairn]

Pulled Stainless but no Paprika real.

[foggy grove]

looks lacking

[jovial nest]

is because Reedic might lack healing potential from long ranged harass

[tall cairn]

[jovial nest]

Saria might go S3

and Skalter might go S3

so can't rely on them for healing during those

[spark sinew]

no iris either
i considered getting her from selector and e2 for 2% in base

but that would've been stupid

[tall cairn]

[loud heath]

is there a good spot for exalter in this anni

[tall cairn]

Eh just 2%.

[glass monolith]

Attempt 4 out of ????

[spark sinew]

the dorm slot is more of a concern

[glass monolith]

i need solution for 300+ top doing one punch man collab on face of my blocker

[spark sinew]

even just slotting czerny in is a bit of a pain especially since i sometimes use arene and stainless

[tall cairn]

That said, do 5* ops that come in the same banner as the 6* run get run in yellow cert shop at the same time?

[spark sinew]

all 5* do get into cert shop eventually

idk why you'd want stuff like paprika tho

[tall cairn]

Ah.

I have Paprika. I want Ashlock.

[limpid siren]

Not necessarily

[spark sinew]

oh, ninja edit

[tall cairn]

ez.

[tall cairn]

Ouch. That’s a problem.

[spice mortar]

Does ifrit have 5 range?

[limpid siren]

Her tile + the five in front, sure

E0 has a shorter range iirc

[tall cairn]

Wtv. I think I should just take Kazemaru anyways.

[spark sinew]

ashlock got way better of a base skill

[tall cairn]

that’s the only reason why I want her.

[spark sinew]

that's why you pick her, you don't need kazemaru

[tall cairn]

wanted to ask if I could secure Ashlock and Fartooth tgt.

[spark sinew]

ok, buying fartooth is worse

[foggy grove]

[tall cairn]

Kazemaru for the collection. Ashlock is the real shit.

[spark sinew]

we could argue who's the worst 6* op in the game though, there are quite some options

[tall cairn]

We could.

[foggy grove]

i could argue it's not vigil

[spice mortar]

Xd red car taking 5 years to kill

[spark sinew]

i think we should exclude welfares but idk

lessing is too weird so i'm hesitant to rate him yet

[tall cairn]

We shouldn’t rate anything that hasn’t come to global.

[dark glade]

i can even say that exu is bad now

[tall cairn]

[foggy grove]

lessing s2 looks like a worse skadi/ntr
idk if s3 has real use case?

[tall cairn]

Worst 6* eh.

[foggy grove]

i still don't know which skill i'll do mastery on him

[tall cairn]

prob Ash.

[spark sinew]

so it's probably typical punching bags then
carne pallas fart archetto? W?

[foggy grove]

hool joined

[spark sinew]

although if we consider alternatives, we should def add like siege and stuff

[spice mortar]

Cuora died and mages got through so now ng keeps dying

[foggy grove]

i think pallas is not that bad bad

[spark sinew]

i would 100% rank carne over pallas, but i also don't think pallas is that good

[tall cairn]

Pallas is okay-ish? But even in IS2 I don’t feel like she’s that strong of a starter.

[scarlet ledge]

pro

[tall cairn]

I’d agree that we could just throw Siege.

[dark glade]

agreege

[foggy grove]

she wouldn't mind

[tall cairn]

[spark sinew]

maybe throw irene for being inferior but she still has "cc"

[limpid siren]

Worst 6* still fucks on most of the game

[foggy grove]

ye

[spark sinew]

is that jealousy from 5* player that i hear

[limpid siren]

You wouldn’t be wrong

[tall cairn]

Irene has ‘cc’ but I’d still rather use Ch’en even without Degen existing.

[dark glade]

irine still has tangible best use for SSS vg stacks

she cant be it

[spice mortar]

😦 too hard

[limpid siren]

Ain’t no way you’re still building irene in sss

[dark glade]

well i dont

[tall cairn]

Irene is overrated SSS slot imo. that said I don’t bring guards anyways.

[limpid siren]

If you made it that far, you can probably close it out with a few adjustments

[spark sinew]

i mean sss is easy enough that irene should work as a carry

[limpid siren]

Take a break and think, then try again

[limpid siren]

That’s different from being a proper carry

[spark sinew]

who's better than her though?
mlynar penance, maybe mud?

[limpid siren]

No 6* has ever been necessary for sss, even before the nerfs

Mlynar absolutely stomps her into the ground yea

[glass monolith]

Attempt 5 on this shit anni

[spark sinew]

what i meant is, being third best operator for melee carries ain't bad

[limpid siren]

I don’t think she is third best

[spark sinew]

that's what i was asking, since i don't really follow sss, so not sure whom people use other than mly and penance but neither do you i thought?

[peak cloak]

do u want to borrow Honey or Mulberry?

or wait for eyja tomorrow

[dark glade]

i only use GG so far, and your irene which i dont even click her skill much because gg just sweep

[spark sinew]

you borrowed my irene? how

[dark glade]

wait i forget its qb

[tall cairn]

[dark glade]

my alzheimer kicks in

[tall cairn]

I like Reed, that said I just like to see the explode animation.

[spark sinew]

qiubai is so strong she doesn't need to use skill to win

[dark glade]

i cant vouch much for mlynar too

sometime if you click skill too fast he doesnt charge enough and deal 0 dmg

[limpid siren]

I think a 6* user could probably answer better, but for me it’s usually a case of two carries and their friends

[foggy grove]

that's just wrong

[limpid siren]

I just don’t really see the dream for Irene in modern sss

[rigid idol]

is blemishine worth raising? just got her and im unsure if her kit synergises well with any of my current characters

[limpid siren]

Actual lie

[dark glade]

[lapis hornet]

she's more for fun than for metaslaving

better build penance first or smth

[foggy grove]

even when you used 5 vg stacks and not fully charged,he still hurts much

[rigid idol]

awesome, thankyou!

[spark sinew]

i think blem is better actually 🤔

penance e1 seems a bit...meh?

also a bad team player

[tall cairn]

have you used Penance e1?

[spark sinew]

(also i hope you don't e0 max everyone)
i used blem e1/e2 and penance e2

i never was impressed with penance

she's really feast or famine op

[dark glade]

,my boomer inside me still think mud is better