strategy

[limpid siren]

very specific unit, great at handling incoming arts damage
but generally a bad raise because most players would benefit more from units that can be applied to a wider variety of scenarios

[tidal sedge]

He's very funny vs certain enemies. But he's pretty whatever outside of those specific matchups

[atomic monolith]

Now how would you rate him if it was a no gacha account?

Over Durnar

[tidal sedge]

Hmm.

[glass monolith]

Arts defender is not common raise because.... Just use normal defender with medic. If there are that many Arts damage that you need some extra RES use Nightingale (or abuse DR from silence alter etc as last effort )

[limpid siren]

durnar is more aggressively bent so she might still see some use, but czerny will definitely be in that "eventually raise" bucket given how limited your toolset can be

being a specific tool actually works in his favour if you're working under a roster limitation like that, just as long as you have the general dps and friends roles fulfilled first

[atomic monolith]

That's good to know, his s2 has nice burst damage to and i think he can get like 100% res with s1

I'll put him under Lapland and spectre

[tidal sedge]

S1m3 gives him 50 res while active without res buffs from elsewhere

[atomic monolith]

He should come in handy in that one Tallulah stage

[tidal sedge]

Hm.

Would you consider Vulcan free under these parameters btw

[atomic monolith]

Yeah i use recruitment

Anyway is good as long as it's not from gacha

[tidal sedge]

I think between Silence alter, Bena, Czerny, and Vulcan you could soak fireballs quite nicely

[atomic monolith]

Like i can't spend orundum

[atomic monolith]

I missed silence

[tidal sedge]

Kinda funny your parameters are suited to them in this way

Aw

[limpid siren]

that stings

[atomic monolith]

It's ok, i have gladia at least

[glass monolith]

But you have no silence alter so you can't do this #strategy message

[limpid siren]

they can still borrow

from the two people that raised her

[glass monolith]

Who is second

[limpid siren]

you from an alternate universe ig

[glass monolith]

I still remember at least 1 guy taking my Silence alter to cheese POO

[lethal dragon]

Shu

[atomic monolith]

Who can i lead with? Top lane

[jovial burrow]

is penance good?

[vernal lion]

absolutely

[peak cloak]

deploy and redeploy it multiple times

reed

[tropic valve]

wait so is Warmy good

[gleaming lodge]

5* so no

[peak cloak]

@cyan gorge hey, i sent a friend request

[tropic valve]

[scarlet ledge]

ngl idk

i iddnt get her

so L

[tropic valve]

sadge

[gray stone]

Lurker did some calcs and S1 has 18k total damage against 50 RES

So at least promising

[turbid badge]

formishing

[turbid badge]

melantha dalao

[limpid siren]

seems fine

nothing amazing

the burn ritualist will make or break her s2

[sly drift]

So.. now that we have two separated elemental damage. We also have two circle elemental damage on the same enemy if we use both elemental damage at the same time?

[limpid siren]

only one elemental effect can pop at once

if corrosion pops first, burn buildup is reset to 0

and vice versa

each elemental buildup has its own "ele hp" to work with, too

burn has to work through its own 1k hp, and corrosion its own 1k

it's the bad ending
but not an unfair way of handling it

[scarlet fulcrum]

From what i heard it can exists at the same time, calculated separately. The only difference biggest effect has that said animation circle. Once burst other element gone within it

[cyan gorge]

Accepted

[peak cloak]

gotcha, thx for it.

btw, do u keep Fartooth in support units often? i need her sometimes for youtube contents

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7771FGs9IP0&ab_channel=MineMoon

[peak cloak]

i barely find out a maxed/well built fartooth so i dont want to lose

[halcyon adder]

So does Ray powercreep Schwarz?

Just like pozu

[vernal lion]

I don't think so

[frail wagon]

I don't think pozy have ever powercrept Schwarz?

people often compare these two for some reasons smh...

[latent halo]

cute bnuuy

[frail wagon]

bnuuy moment

[latent halo]

so where do i place warny res shred at ? atb or last

[halcyon adder]

Hi april

[latent halo]

probly cut on base number

hi

[latent halo]

i thought u quit ak sapa

[halcyon adder]

Nah I am back

[latent halo]

pog

[balmy saddle]

Can someone help me how do I clear this?

[latent halo]

bring some defender

is this SK stage

[vernal lion]

yes

[balmy saddle]

Yep

[latent halo]

defneder + lava

spot , cardi + lava

and add some medic + arts

[foggy grove]

she does kinda creep scwarz before she get her second module

[balmy saddle]

wow okay thanks

[frail wagon]

I don’t think Pozy does a good job at single targeting and extremely high DEF shred

[balmy saddle]

defendes is like thorn or plume?

[vernal lion]

no

[latent halo]

actual defender class

that blocks 3

that have more than 500 defense

[balmy saddle]

okay thanks

[latent halo]

Well mine are a bit over leveled

[balmy saddle]

tysm

[latent halo]

Add more medic

[balmy saddle]

buut im dont have spot

[balmy saddle]

okay

[latent halo]

cuora is fine

or any block 3

pure defender

[balmy saddle]

okay

[cyan gorge]

Not often unless specifically asked for

[balmy saddle]

Ehhh rn im gonna farm a lot of lmd, for upgrading this ops

[cyan gorge]

Also I’m still working on getting her maxed

[latent halo]

most 3s are a good raise

[balmy saddle]

Yay

[latent halo]

do u wan a clear

or auto it

[spice mortar]

Anyone have better idea than texas alter spam to keep the things mine

[balmy saddle]

ig i need a lot of this things for base upgrade soo

[cyan gorge]

Pozy, Thorns, Fiammetta

[foggy grove]

horn is pretty cool to keep the tower

while killing everything else too

else you can to bait the shot too

[analog kayak]

For the sake of DP, who is better between Saileach and Myrtle?

[cyan gorge]

Sail produces more overall dp, but Myrtle gets her skill active faster

[analog kayak]

My friends tell me to use Myrtle, but I don't have any other Vanguards on my team like they do, so the healing isn't useful

[cyan gorge]

Myrtle s1m3 is a lot cheaper than upgrading Saileach, also the healing helps Myrtle herself in some situations so she's surprisingly durable against weaker mobs

off skill at least

[analog kayak]

ok

thanks

[cyan gorge]

but for sure raise Saileach later for her s3

[latent halo]

unless ur sail is max pot

else is myrtle

max pot s1m3 sail gains more dp

in long stage

[spice mortar]

Horn is broken here thanks, holy

[vernal lion]

this is fun af lol

GG true carry

[glass monolith]

Floor is bazookas

[latent halo]

whats LE mechanic again

[balmy saddle]

[latent halo]

i think i cheesed it

[gleaming lodge]

[vernal lion]

auto sp recovery halves when not deploy in laser, and otherwise

[lethal dragon]

Better not used

[spice mortar]

I still got bonked 😦

[glass monolith]

SP down 50%. Need to be in lazor to fix SP damage

[latent halo]

only sp down ?

[gleaming lodge]

yeah

[glass monolith]

Well and half of enemies enteracting with lazor

[gleaming lodge]

and then the boss does its stuff

[latent halo]

i saw the ray turns red

[gleaming lodge]

this event is only valid because it introduces a cute purple slug

[vernal lion]

that boss' 1st skill

[latent halo]

ok , let me just ignore the mechanic completely , uhh , offense rec and defense rec + passive

[peak cloak]

where did u place Mudrock?

[spice mortar]

Top lane at the stairs

[glass monolith]

TWO TARGET Caster do 3x3 aoe if attacking someone outside lazor
Crab from 1400 DEF / Sample text turns into 200 DEF / Who cares about RES when in lazor
Funny stun dude stuns in lazor first
Another piece of shit chain to everyone who is within same lazor
DOOT dudes special DOOT being blocked by lazor

[vernal lion]

let me bully those bazookas

[latent halo]

yato s2
texas s3
ntr
surtr

ok done

[peak cloak]

also, do u have Wandering medics?

[latent halo]

thanks for the info

[spice mortar]

Big range ones right? I have whisperrain e2

[latent halo]

shes therapist

[lethal dragon]

deletes arknights ok done

[cyan gorge]

Mulberry or Honeyberry

[latent halo]

he means xberry

[spice mortar]

Oh no i dont

I can grab one from the red cert store though

For the fire element?

[latent halo]

please dont

we have ejyaberry

after uhh 10 days

yea

[spice mortar]

True

My medics

[latent halo]

whisperain ng ptilo

ull only need these 3

and also ansel / hibi

for IS starter

also 200 orum

here u go

u can pretty much ditch whisperain too if u dont do IS3 ending 4

[peak cloak]

okay lets me guess, u dont have a tank for mid lane amd rely on Thorns and Blaze right?

[spice mortar]

Shining is hot (whisperrain too) so shes still getting built but which ones should i take for the anni,

[spice mortar]

I borrowed horn

[peak cloak]

she doesnt mean to tank

[latent halo]

she need module

so she can passive heal herself always

[spice mortar]

I dont have lmd

[latent halo]

touch closure like u do to Cannot

[peak cloak]

get yourself a guardian, replace kroos/gravel. lets Horn shoot in back line.

[spice mortar]

Why are we talking about is though

[spice mortar]

I have a e1 cuora

[peak cloak]

god bless u but without a proper tank in mid lane, it just too hard for the last waves.

[spice mortar]

Okay thanks

[south sage]

Does anyone have a visual of what her path looks like?

Trying to beat CM.

I'm not sure if the red line is shown, but i can't see her red line that indicates her path.

[crisp bolt]

here you go

@south sage

[south sage]

Huge thanks.

How many times does she circle?

[crisp bolt]

she goes left first and circles twice

[south sage]

Twice. Noted.

Thx again.

[crisp bolt]

very useful tool: https://map.ark-nights.com/map/act18side_ex08

[timid schooner]

wat u guys raise vigil wtf

[vernal lion]

[latent halo]

ngless and she will die

[vernal lion]

true

[glass monolith]

He says True because he used NG

I can say True BECAUSE I DIDN'T

[karmic glade]

There are so much holes in this rim billiton mini event

[vernal lion]

next events: hole-less

[glass monolith]

Next event - Bind immunity, physical damage retaliation

[polar crane]

thanks god this mini event dont have boss

[glass monolith]

4 block invisible cars

[crisp bolt]

rest in peace crownslayer

[vernal lion]

wait for TN stage with Harold as a boss

[crisp bolt]

I watched a 4* clear of it

it's suffering

[vernal lion]

they will bring Degen and Harold into that TN for sure tho if it's happened

[crisp bolt]

then add Dolly to it

[vernal lion]

no, add Walmart Nova

[crisp bolt]

they could also do Yan

[gray stone]

Yan is just Chalter gaming

[glass monolith]

Now i imagine TfN which will overlap NL light, LE lazer/SP down, and Harold's why it is so cold in land which is so cold Catastrophes literally don't reach it

[atomic monolith]

How's my current roster, no gacha account?

The second pic seems a bit redundant now that i look at it

[foggy grove]

i was expecting no recruit but ig you don't consider it as gacha

[atomic monolith]

I'm insane, not masochistic

No gacha: No using gacha currency to pull on character banners

I'm still permitting myself to using recruitment and certificates

[foggy grove]

it looks fine tho you can start picking your core team and start e2 ing them

[cosmic thicket]

just curious do free pulls on limited banners count
bc that's kinda cheese

[atomic monolith]

No I'd never lmao

The free tickets are still gacha currency

[cosmic thicket]

ok cool

[atomic monolith]

Hey, is Grani a better option for a vanguard than courier paired with Myrtle

[foggy grove]

grani is a weirdo with defensive kit

and she is dp on kill vg

[atomic monolith]

Courier with also a defensive kit although for an offensive van to have def as her main thing she is weird

Anyway I'll stick with courier than

Is this a good squad to work up to e2? Or should i put lapland back instead of gladia?

[cosmic thicket]

honestly i would keep lapp in until you can put masteries on gladiia

[atomic monolith]

Other than that, any improvements?

[foggy grove]

e1 glad is pretty weak yeah

[atomic monolith]

U have my roster to choose from lol

[latent halo]

Puzzle better

[quick pecan]

yall aren’t going to like hearing that without full abyssal lapp s2 outdps gladiia s2

[atomic monolith]

Yeah... I'll wait for about a year for the reed alter event to come back around and build only him

[atomic monolith]

S3 tho

[quick pecan]

s3 is

worse damage

lol

[atomic monolith]

Crowd control queen!

But yeah i wasn't planning on building her now anyway

[quick pecan]

well if those are your options then gladiia as a damage option is still decent i guess

[atomic monolith]

I'll build Lapland and spectre first tho

They're currently my only good dps and boss killing options respectively

Spec can stall em while amiya tries her best

[latent halo]

Something something like these ppl can pretty much handle all kind of situations

We count recruit operators too ?

[latent anvil]

you can recruit many six stars

[latent halo]

You will end up casual team

[atomic monolith]

Honestly not bad a bad roster

You might get suzuran to since she just got added

[radiant mesa]

Why do you have poca mods

So sorry for your loss

[grizzled otter]

year 1 squad

[gleaming lodge]

Phantom

[deft nest]

Should I

[radiant mesa]

He's a pretty good operator

[craggy turret]

Myrtle better for dp gen purposes

Since you get her pots more easily

[deft nest]

Ok so should I

[craggy turret]

Build Myrtle first

Save your resources unless you have him at p5 imo

[deft nest]

Ok so do I build Myrtle and use her instead

[craggy turret]

If I wanted to make a blu team, it would be lumen, ling, suzu, mizuki, gnosis, texalt. Who else?

[atomic monolith]

No gacha gamers eating good soon

[craggy turret]

Preferably

[atomic monolith]

A new sniper and caster

[craggy turret]

Ik his archetype is primal caster but idk what that does

[atomic monolith]

Elemental damage? Or is that another one?

[deft nest]

Is it a mistake to e1 elysium tho

with him at p0

[atomic monolith]

If u have myrtle yes

If not, i don't think it's that bad

I don't even use myrtle on my main account

[scarlet fulcrum]

nope i even use him at e0 just fine, u chill in general content anyway

But his s2 is nice to have, doesnt matter the pot for u tbh

Also p0 means u don't have them

[atomic monolith]

His pots would be nice tho, he's more expensive than Myrtle, but they're more of a luxury

[scarlet fulcrum]

Doesnt matter for general contenr and max reward stuff

[quick pecan]

elysium is very good

[atomic monolith]

Ye

[quick pecan]

if you have him don’t bother with myrtle

[atomic monolith]

Also he's a man, which is a big up on Myrtle

[cyan gorge]

Me who’s been using non pot 5 Ely far more than Myrtle

[atomic monolith]

My Myrtle gathering dust on the bench

[deft nest]

Saw so many people say Myrtle is cracked

[cyan gorge]

Cause cheap dp printer

Good but I wouldn’t call her cracked

[atomic monolith]

She has global regen for vanguards, which has a niche i suppose

VanguardKnights she is cracked

[deft nest]

where does it say thatt

[cyan gorge]

It’s her talent

[scarlet fulcrum]

E2 talent

[deft nest]

kk

[scarlet fulcrum]

focus on ur dps first tho, flagger low priority in general

[atomic monolith]

Primal caster being a niche inside a niche

[craggy turret]

So...virtuosa...

[atomic monolith]

He basically needs the target to already be suffering necrosis with their elemental bar depleted

Without the "Elemental burst phase" which is what they're calling the state of taking elemental damage, he is just a core caster

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

I wanna call it Elemental fallout

That sounds cooler

[verbal sparrow]

they really be pushing this elemental thing

probably building towards some kind of wombo combo

arturia probably gonna be the key behind that meta

[karmic glade]

necrosis seems to be the worst elemental damage, it's the defensive one, and arturia can't buff any other elemental so she is kinda stuck

[verbal sparrow]

what is the better elemental damage?

[karmic glade]

fire currenly does RES reduction, and corrosion is not implemented yet but most likey would do DEF reduction

[verbal sparrow]

Which friendly operator inflicts elemental fire dmg?

[karmic glade]

warmy, just released yesterday in CN

the new fire type primal caster

[verbal sparrow]

Not sure how to feel about Ifrit not doing elemental burn damage but new operators will

[karmic glade]

mod delta exist so literally anyone can deal elemental if HG wants them to

[polar crane]

the year1 technology isn't there yet

[silver ledge]

Hi, this is my box.

Now i need to choose a 5* operator :

Which one?

[polar crane]

lappland

[silver ledge]

Project red? Lapland?

[karmic glade]

savage

[polar crane]

old account prob

[silver ledge]

what the problem with savage?

[scarlet fulcrum]

They just surprised cause shes freebie from launch and each anniv. thats all

[copper rune]

So to my understanding Dorothy is the best unit to copy for Muelsyse S3? Do you need to have Dorothy leveled as well?

[ivory void]

No. You're just copying her for her attack speed im pretty sure

[cyan gorge]

It copies 90% of Dorothy’s stats too so it does matter

[gray stone]

What does matter is that if you have E2L60 Dorothy vs E2L90 Exusiai, you clone Exusiai

[ivory void]

Ahh all mine are capped so I didn't notice a difference

[crystal cargo]

If it works it works

[frigid fog]

Don’t know if there’s any units that can solo JT8-3..

[glass monolith]

[tidal sedge]

I dont even want to think about a solo JT8-3 run lmao

[gray stone]

I don't know how it got like that but I know you will look at guides had you played during that CC

[tidal sedge]

Any advice?

[gray stone]

I forgot, what's this stage again?

[tidal sedge]

LE-EX-5 CM

[gray stone]

I meant what happened in there

[tidal sedge]

This is how my last attempt

[cosmic thicket]

I think you need to spawncamp top harder

[glass monolith]

Have you tried to choke shit out of stun dude inside red box?

[frigid fog]

There should be a team to 3 star JT8-3 somewhere…

[tidal sedge]

No. 😂

[gray stone]

Bait with the laser

[glass monolith]

Team or Solo JT8-3, you can't look up for both

[frigid fog]

Why not one each?

[tidal sedge]

Bring NG and a therapist medic

[crystal cargo]

Yup

[frigid fog]

NG?

[cosmic thicket]

I don't think JT8-3 has a solo since there's early dogs and funny burning breath

[crystal cargo]

I did it by just laneholding and stat checking

[tidal sedge]

Nightingale

[crystal cargo]

At the end I held boss with mudrock

SMH saria died but mudrock didnt

[gray stone]

Free is a joke of a boss if you aren't stacking risks

[crystal cargo]

Yeah this is just different from the other rotating ccs

[cosmic thicket]

Free does not have good stats for the cost

[crystal cargo]

More strategy

[tidal sedge]

Elaborate please

[crystal cargo]

Usually I just stat check the other ccs

[gray stone]

The stun guy only stun 1 unit and is the last deployed on a laser

And you have another laser generator that is unused in there

[tidal sedge]

I see

Got it!

[crystal cargo]

I couldn’t afk this one

[tidal sedge]

Well, heck

[turbid badge]

donberman s2 so expensive

[tidal sedge]

Hmmmmmm

I dont like this map

[vocal leaf]

you can’t like it if you aren’t playing with the light

[tidal sedge]

Lol

I did beat it tho

Owwww

Now i have a new problem

[graceful bear]

How do you do SSS with Aegirian Oscilloscope? The Abyssal Hunters are good but wide area DPS isn't one of those things they are good at.

[foggy grove]

i just use them as a fodder tbh but gladia and spalter is okay

[tropic valve]

same

just faster fodder

[graceful bear]

I thought vanilla Specter would be the best since she does multi-target damage off skill

[foggy grove]

you don't have to force yourself to use them

i just treat the device like it doesn't exist and play as usual

[south sage]

Is Kreide's violin waves skill location-based or timing based?

I can't consistently get the proper timings for his skill casts.

[tidal sedge]

Timing based

So blocking/slowing him will affect where he uses skill

[south sage]

Noted. Thx.

Also, how much is the ASPD reduction of Lamentation of Nothingness when in the laser?

Is it 50%?

25%?

[crisp bolt]

50%

[vernal lion]

very good deployment tiles

[cosmic thicket]

that is very aggressive placement u have balls

[peak cloak]

uhm, well...

[loud heath]

How hard is DoS

[glass monolith]

There are bunch of stages and hardest one are "Fuck it i am not doing it if CN needed Ceobe, Mlynar, Reed alter, Suzu to even have boss HP go down"

[loud heath]

are there medals

[glass monolith]

i know there is skin for A-3 or something

[glass monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpihFFh8w5w

I feel like Ray will be Dorothied by Yostar as well

[vernal lion]

ok I need to test the "revive" order of medicB in SSS

somehow when there are 2 op in dying, the order of revive is messed up my plan

[tropic valve]

please report back also curious

would have guessed it's dead longest has priority?

[vernal lion]

hmm yea, maybe

[vernal lion]

yea, you were right

it prioritizes the current longest duration of dying

this is perfectly good when you want the op that has burst skill to refresh it immediately after the revival

[vernal lion]

btw for this stage, they want you to use the laser for left side to counter the colossus' high defensive stats,
the right side just needs to use sniper with offensive sp or trapmaster, and one medic if it's needed

[tropic valve]

oh does revival work like a redeploy?

like you get initial SP again?

[vernal lion]

exactly lol

[tropic valve]

nice

[vernal lion]

it's just redeploy

[tropic valve]

Eyja suicide strats

[vernal lion]

so op with afk skill like skalter won't be good with this

[tender glade]

Does anyone have an e2 thorns that i can borrow ?

My id is Nekoroid#7293

I cant find him in the support

[vernal lion]

I would like to help you, but my friend list is full, so yea

[tender glade]

Kay thanks tho

[peak cloak]

remember to put your request in #friend-id too

[latent halo]

E2 thongs

[vernal lion]

[tiny iris]

[halcyon adder]

April's thongs

[tropic valve]

hello Cloudless

speCast specialist

[vernal lion]

in my opinion, AH is still kinda niche to be played in SSS tho

[scarlet fulcrum]

I used them more for dmg soaker or staller

In sss

Skadi kinda pog for slapping tho

[vernal lion]

yea

[latent halo]

Hold 1 lane (x
Hold all 3 lane separately (o

Breh

[limpid siren]

[vernal lion]

that's how it is

unless you want me to play Liskarm Weedy strat

[glass monolith]

9000 ATK Lin and random bullshit go

[crystal cargo]

My thorns is e2 60 s3m3

Not max level

[south sage]

Ngl, i should try out SSS.

I'm just usually too lazy to play it, but i might soon.

[cosmic thicket]

it's not as bad as people say

[tidal sedge]

I beat it already, but appreciate it 👍

[deft nest]

Is lumen actually free?

I just found out he was free sometime

[tropic valve]

yes

free 6* and pretty good too!

[cosmic thicket]

he's not bad

[karmic glade]

if you are building lumen for general healing you might want to hold off on doing that, as eyja alter's banner is coming soon

[deft nest]

Where can I get lumen from? And should I pull for Eyja or wait for Typhon?

[high shadow]

i believe you’ll have to wait for stultifera navis record restoration

bc it had its rerun like last month

[tropic valve]

Eyja is limited so

[high shadow]

it mostly depends on whether you want the limited or not

she’s a great wandering medic w/ global range but if you don’t care and want typhon instead then go for her

like eyja isn’t a necessity

just makes things much easier

[karmic glade]

yup she is certainly a nice to have, I use her S1 way more for perma heals

bascially a target 2 lumen S3

[high shadow]

yeah! she’s got great skills

really it’s just a look at your account and who you like best

[tidal sedge]

This didnt work...

Plz help

[timid acorn]

The stage is really slow and the boss has a really long path. Once you finished the second wave which ends with 2 casters roughly around the time the boss first uses the Lamentation of Nothingness you can retreat everyone and let the boss walk until it's at 1 HP then finish it off and setup again for the final wave while the boss transitions to the second phase.

Though you do need to deal a little bit of damage to the boss which is easier during his second phase due to decreased defensive stats.

Spamming Yato will probably suffice for that

[tidal sedge]

This is the team i used

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just focus on mobs and gertrude, boss will dying eventually

Yato+sexas enough for mobs, the rest just watching. U also have few helidrop. dw the mobs also slow af for yato and sexas to have party

[tidal sedge]

Cool

I have Yato on S3, should i switch to S2?

[scarlet fulcrum]

S2 yeah

No need medic tbh, maybe for mlynar or sa if u cant time properly. Nvm then

[tidal sedge]

Mfer

[scarlet fulcrum]

No need to make lane, just focus on dp to feed the duo

Retreat ur stuffs on bottom right

[tidal sedge]

I cant kill that caster

So this one is over

[scarlet fulcrum]

U have plenty time for sexas

No

[tidal sedge]

Accidendally dropped yato but it worked

[scarlet fulcrum]

retreat will refund dp

Oh nice

[tidal sedge]

Big guy now

[scarlet fulcrum]

Retreat all ops

Maybe except chalter

gl

[tidal sedge]

Yes, retreat ops...

...

[scarlet fulcrum]

Focus on mobs only, u have plenty time there

[tidal sedge]

👍

This run is screwed tho.
The regular dudes move so gd fast

I was focusing the mobs, boss will kill yato and texas too fast

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah his range, tbh that two mobs are food for yato when still line up

[scarlet ledge]

ok that was fun

hi @scarlet fulcrum

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yo leite

[tidal sedge]

I was on S2...

Not S3

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah u were late

[tidal sedge]

I see

[scarlet ledge]

ya doing?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Like, sexas or yato can do that

[turbid badge]

@hauckindu

[scarlet fulcrum]

they smh focusing all burst on right lane

When boss route is the opposite

[tidal sedge]

No im not

[scarlet fulcrum]

Clearly

[tidal sedge]

There are too many enemies for just yato and texas

So put chalter and mlyar left?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just balance them

Instead chalter just borrow another decent ground ops or smt. Surtr exalt mountain etc

[scarlet ledge]

ngl how u still having trouble

with that ops

[scarlet fulcrum]

even ines pog tbh

[scarlet ledge]

u can just delete him on spawn

[scarlet fulcrum]

oh yea maween

[tidal sedge]

Wth

[full finch]

[tidal sedge]

What am i doing wrong?

[full finch]

have you considered using lee

[tidal sedge]

Not yet, i tried in nm but was near impossible keeping him alive

[full finch]

should be doable with 2 medics

[tidal sedge]

👍

[full finch]

the main issue for you would be to not lose your other lanes

[tidal sedge]

Yeah

[full finch]

the way I did it was something like
saria left lane, lee middle left, and horn pointing up to clear

[tidal sedge]

Shit

The casters hurt so much...

[full finch]

yes

[tidal sedge]

I dont see how this works...

[full finch]

remember they hit 2 targets, and the splash can overlap

[tidal sedge]

Yeah

Idk how to mitigate that

[full finch]

use laser or have units have a gap between them

[tidal sedge]

👍

I see the mirrors but no idea how to hit them

[full finch]

I didn't use them

but I also just used units with offensive recovery

[scarlet fulcrum]

Bit overkill but my lv not different from urs

Its possible

[tidal sedge]

Yeah, im just dumb

[full finch]

wtf optimization

[tidal sedge]

Apparently

[full finch]

executor twins

cringe

nice 5 op tho

[scarlet fulcrum]

no i don't want to low ops, just to boost their morale

[tidal sedge]

Ty

Im sure i can do it

Itll just take all day

[full finch]

low ops is also cringe dw

optimization is good though

reducing it to ~6 units is ideal tbh

anything beyond that is just unneeded

[scarlet fulcrum]

Exalt to lanehold left, in ur case lapp and saria will do. Mly can wait anywhere

[turbid badge]

Mid

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah just borrow for ez life whynot, not must exalt . Glad mtn ines horn gud example for those mobs horn can aboose flux from right

Or u flux line left to bott, anything goes

If still struggle just use lee unga bunga like xolli suggest

[tidal sedge]

Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnng

[scarlet fulcrum]

No dp, pain

[tidal sedge]

Yep

I just am so not getting this

[tidal sedge]

If i can keep him alive...

[scarlet fulcrum]

Have u ever watch vid? I think lee carry has that. Idk tho

[tidal sedge]

Not yet

[scarlet fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/A5I35YnJObY?si=b1cIhMUhOCq5GJ22 maybe this guy notbad, just found randomly

other have better vid maybe, that one rly random tbh

[tidal sedge]

Im here now

[scarlet fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/2gRfJLGh1to?si=-6f4OdENaALpm7H7 this also random guy using best debuffer

[scarlet fulcrum]

Wait him on left then kill, most of ur ops still in CD so

Make him dying first with duo

[scarlet fulcrum]

Bottom left then kill, there will be gertrude in ur pos so no

When boss "changing phase" prepare ur helidrop for mobs and gertrude

[tidal sedge]

I forgot about the slugs...

And couldnt drop fast enough

[scarlet fulcrum]

tbh u need to rest, u said it took ur time all today before

Maybe ur irl sanity is the reason

[tidal sedge]

Probably

[scarlet fulcrum]

and look at few guide if u want, maybe will give u smt useful

[red cosmos]

It's possible to just surtr Patriot from 7 18?

[scarlet fulcrum]

For Patriot yeah, p1 need mines tho

more like mines killed p1

[red cosmos]

Do I need S3M3? or r7 is doable?

[scarlet fulcrum]

7 doable, just explode more mines on him later

[red cosmos]

ok

[scarlet fulcrum]

but like u can just borrow tbh

Its not farm node

[red cosmos]

I was thinking on going mountain, weedy s2m3, , nightingale, surtr, and hool

Something like this

[scarlet fulcrum]

So u laning with weedy and mtn?

[red cosmos]

yeah

I lane with mountain weedy, and surtr boss

This weedy is my most built operator

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah doable ig, bring more ops for bait or smt. Also just borrow better surtr, ~~even better mlynar ~~

Just curious is this self challenge or smt

[red cosmos]

eh?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Cause u only bring few ops

[red cosmos]

More ops = more use of brain

And I am braindead

I prefer using self sustainable ops and go brr

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh then lv up ur lv 1 to 20 or smt, barely free

[red cosmos]

ok

These are my only e2s

XD

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just bring them, in phase 2 patriot will throw spear periodically on furthest ranged ops. In case u kill him slower he will throw multiple times

Its only on ranged ops tho

[red cosmos]

You know what, this boss is better than the HE civils

[lofty stag]

most things are better than the HE civils

[scarlet fulcrum]

[red cosmos]

In arknights is skill issue or brain issue?

because if you cant, u just dumb

[scarlet fulcrum]

ppl often use skill issue

[red cosmos]

Would be cool if this man's s3 deals true dmg

[scarlet fulcrum]

At this point its not really insult word, just generic term tbh

[lofty stag]

a lot of ops would be cool with true dmg

[scarlet fulcrum]

Exu tru dmg fr

[red cosmos]

What if texalter and yato alter did TD?

[lofty stag]

we would need a tier above ex

[scarlet fulcrum]

s1 yato go brr

[red cosmos]

We need that surtr module be, when surtr is recieving dmg, her dmg becomes true dmg

[scarlet fulcrum]

as long as the better mod not released with immortal talent 💀

tho its not bad if additional seconds is decent

But knowing HG

[steep robin]

any advice on LE- 8?

[gray stone]

1. Ebenholz should use S3 for all stages tbh
2. Lee + 1-2 Medics cheeses him

[shrewd hull]

I think I followed an Eckogen video where they used s3 Lee to push 20 some drunks and Kriede away while Kriede just damaged himself, and then killed the drunks when he turned. It takes a bit of RNG but it’s funny as hell

[spice mortar]

Hate towards this stage ❤️

Blaze + thorns + ng and cannot stay alive ❤️

Would i be better off with chongyue top side facing down for the beam

Idk that seems like possible

And grab 1+ healer

now the constructs arent in the beam.......

fixed it

Im considering things...

I didnt even notice

[glass monolith]

[vocal cave]

does anyone have le-ex-8 clears with exec alter i dont wanna borrow a lee

[glass monolith]

Just make boss Rick roll itself to death with his 25% hp cost move, while you kill trash in any way you like

[vocal cave]

i dont even know how the boss works i just want to copy a guide with exec bcs i heard u only needed like 2 ops

[full finch]

[rich rune]

I have a consistent winning strat for IS, people oriented squad and slow and steady squad. For ops, I start off with Nearl S1, Melanite S2 (sometimes S1), and Haze s2. These three can clear the first two floors easily if you really need them to.

[limpid siren]

That’s a wild start

[latent anvil]

nearl melanite haze

pro

[glass monolith]

Now come back to reality and pick d4

[tropic valve]

Melanite gaming

haven't seen that since last year

[tidal sedge]

Here we go again

[wicked viper]

isnt this D0 where ya can do whatever and still win

because at higher difficulty starting with that is impossible

well not that much higher, just d4

[tidal sedge]

This mission is bs ifs

LE-EX-8
Ive used both Lee and Chalter, neither workd bc they get instakilled

[limpid siren]

you can still run 2 5s 1 4s opener with +hope start

as for if it works, meh who cares, let people have fun

[full finch]

your lee must be defective

[sullen rover]

https://youtu.be/xikz0UMv4KQ?si=BXOyD0c-YUDDPgG9

[full finch]

chalter moment

[foggy grove]

how does lee even get instakilled

[full finch]

probably boss + caster

[tidal sedge]

Yes

[rich rune]

On the first few floors yes, but after that you need some more units.

[limpid siren]

that's true all the way up

actually i'm lying

the openers just get more optimised

[noble pewter]

What is most optimised opener

[limpid siren]

it can vary a lot depending on what squad you pick

mind over matter start is mostly gonna gravitate to something like kroos the keen glint, and two idiots

probably spot and a reserve

the class squads should each have their own funny starter picks

[scarlet ledge]

mm

[tidal sedge]

Hmm

[tidal sedge]

GDI

Freaking slugs

[thorny silo]

Isn't CM just the same as normal but with 8 undeployable tiles?

If you can beat normal you can beat cm

[tidal sedge]

Plus the stat increase...

I used Chalter in nm

[sullen rover]

just

[wicked viper]

isn't it easier to burst in your case

[tidal sedge]

IVE. TRIED.

Several times

[wicked viper]

borrow suzu maybe?

or maybe reed

[thorny silo]

I used Chalter both nm and cm

Did the exact same thing both times

[wicked viper]

on EX CM

kreide has 1500 def and 70 res on phase 1

immune to everything so make sure ya get texas s2

[thorny silo]

Yeah..but I thought you dont need to kill him?

[wicked viper]

he kills himself yes

specifically, he loses 25% hp every 60s

but with a stacked roster is faster to burst

[thorny silo]

I see

Well I just left him to die both phases

[wicked viper]

we have mlynar texas reedic yato pozy etc to burst now

compared to the original run

[tidal sedge]

Well that went...not well

[wicked viper]

phase 2?

[tidal sedge]

Nope

[wicked viper]

did ya kill the caster with yato s2 and texas s2

that will help a lot

[tidal sedge]

Which caster there are several

[wicked viper]

the splash caster

this guy

yato will quickly melt them

[viscid raft]

Is it possible to beat dm6 without having elite 1 units

[tidal sedge]

I got it eventually

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTTzLUYf-d4&ab_channel=Sciel

[tidal sedge]

Arent they two diffrernt types of medics, thus do different things?

So why compare?

[foggy grove]

people mostly just use lumen as afk healer

eyja is winning by targetting 2

[tidal sedge]

👍

[tulip knoll]

lumen is good healer, esp for welfare. and also nobody so far has beat him in his niche (entirely remove negative status with heal)
he’s also multipurpose, and can be used for copium/desperate aoe heals with s1

eyja is a Limited, making her slightly harder to get, but obviously somewhat better because money. however, her branch is a bit niche as elemental damage isnt in every stage, and she’s marginally weaker without it- though her kit basically makes up for it

at the end of the day it depends on what you need/want really-eyja will prevent you from taking elemental damage, period, while aiding in the survival of multiple operators, while lumen can reduce or remove the effects of it, and easily keep one operator alive.

[vernal lion]

how my 'Lin' Juggernaut looks like

[timid acorn]

Total Damage for a fully charged Ebenholz S3 against an isolated target based on enemy resistance at 0 elemental resistance.

The difference between Δ and the other mods is quite a bit more noticable than I expected

[fringe jackal]

all the money and materials I spent on eben mod x has turned into water like tears in the rain

[vernal lion]

glad I don't have him

[vernal lion]

if I have 10 medicA buffs on an AH op, that means they always deal 5% at least lol

Imma try that

[glass monolith]

Damage reduction of medic A reduce damage to Lin BEFORE shield check

[tidal sedge]

His kit has quite a few multipliers, so another modifer + some quasi-true damage does a lot

[foggy grove]

maf is not mafing

you are still capped by 5 of the same equip right?

[glass monolith]

Give 5 medic A to 2 AH

[foggy grove]

i heard it's multiplicative

[glass monolith]

50% 50% Gladiias 30%, you take only 17.5% original damage

[foggy grove]

yeah looks right

[nimble sierra]

Damn silence alter s3m3 was disappointing. Honestly shamare being able to flat out neuter a bosses atk is just so much better for a 5 star op

Was trying her in a team that used penance to tank h11 4 steamknight for fun. The team with shamare just straight out outperformed when silence alter was replaced with her

[foggy grove]

why are you using her s3 for that

use s2 if you actually need the shelter

[vernal lion]

use Quercus s1 instead

[rose trail]

well from what I see is silence got a 15 seconds debuff that keep your team alive from the atk down
while silence alter give u immortality for 60 seconds
so .. yeah

[foggy grove]

uh it's not

[rose trail]

wasnt her s3 is 60 sec

[foggy grove]

yeah but the immortality is only 10s

[rose trail]

ah I see what u getting but

idk how to express it, during the 60s?

[vernal lion]

he means 10s for immortality, but skill duration is 60s,
and the immortality only procs once a skill

[foggy grove]

during that 60s you can get 10s immortality once

[rose trail]

yes

[foggy grove]

anyhow her s3 i very niche prolly only useful for aak shenanigan

[rose trail]

with the heal and dmg reduction from the talent i believe it more solid survival ability then shamare in long fight

[foggy grove]

i'd sooner use quercus than coping silence s3 ngl

[vernal lion]

if all your op haven't died yet, you just don't need her

that's my point

[rose trail]

i mean, can my op die when she exist, cuz with the passive heal and damage resist, I think it pretty nice

[vernal lion]

then I'm pretty sure she's built for this

[foggy grove]

looks gross

i'm not looking forward to that

[vernal lion]

imagine stacking all your op just to NOT let them die while enemies deal massive aoe dmg

there's a thing call "fast redeploy", you know

[lethal dragon]

Yeah Better off popping the balls

[glass monolith]

Main question is: How long i can stall this B with Quartz

[vernal lion]

stalling while s2 is on

[latent halo]

Can't u loop it with gravel Texas yato

[scarlet fulcrum]

Luckily thats not even S level stats stage

but like even A level the base atk like 2.2k or smt

[glass monolith]

Oh right we won't have Typhon for DoS because Yostar is da best.... Thank god Endfield will be handled by HG for Global as well

[turbid badge]

silence alter dalao

[turbid badge]

its oky

i pull out rosa

[noble pewter]

What is that thing

[scarlet fulcrum]

Boss from DOS event

[glass monolith]

And most fun part - That was LEAST troublesome of his attacks

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah that was just -50% atk cause ranged

[fringe jackal]

wait what, DOS when

[glass monolith]

(Level) Design of Suffering or something idk

[karmic glade]

we don't even have the next trial of navigator yet, so DOS won't be soon

[vernal lion]

Yostar musts play dirty on EN again

[karmic glade]

TN3 is so easy, you get free ling

[latent halo]

Almost is4

And we still yet to get U

Where U

[pliant furnace]

i want u in my life

this is eureka right

[turbid badge]

Shtu

Yes

because our april fools

[pliant furnace]

why cant we have april fools in october

like theres no point in making it an april only thing

summer event is in fking winter and cny event is in the fking middle of the year

might as well be consistent if we dont have any plans of catching up

[grizzled otter]

LOL they got popped

[glad moat]

Chapter 12 fucking sucks, am I just stupid about my placements or is it supposed to be annoying

There is always one fucker that gets by with everyone doing their job

If anyone has any suggestions or team recommendations I’d very much appreciate it

[glass monolith]

I didn't like chapter 12 too, stop touching my sacred DP cap HG

[glad moat]

Idk what it is dawg but it shit is really getting on my nerves, if it was me just getting obliterated I’d say “skill issue” but it’s consistently one guy

I don’t wanna go back just get the perfect clear stuff but

ugh

[dapper meadow]

Jessica alt S2 or S3? Also wtb a replacement for e2/mastery/mod popularity poll site
S2 is better for roguelike, while S3 is for story/remaining content right? If you had to pick one, which would it be?

assuming theres no alternative or replacement yet, for the ownership polling?

[cyan gorge]

Low rarity/cheap 2-3 blocks

[glad moat]

Damn why didn’t I think of this

You a real one for that

[cyan gorge]

Gummy was my mvp

[civic bear]

jester s3 by far has better potential imo

the stun when shield is so flexible

[cosmic thicket]

friston 3

like unironically

[karmic glade]

Dorothy S3 can detect imposter in a cross range everywhere

highly educated mines

[glass monolith]

Blacknight can sleep them and steal their ID cards during it

[vernal lion]

they should change her name to Darknight

[remote atlas]

[ocean ether]

me and my army trying to hold a lane while monstr just solos it strategy at its finest

[gray stone]

Eckogen jumpscare

[crystal cargo]

He just appears when his name is mentioned

[cyan gorge]

Now do the same on adverse

[glass monolith]

10-11 AE is one of few stages which made me go "F this, i bring Chalter"

[cyan gorge]

I still have a functioning AE auto

[foggy grove]

Idr what i use

[cyan gorge]

I clearly remember the mvp being Kazemaru

New player before I had Kal

[tropic valve]

Ah 10-11, I think I had Schwarz, Horn, and Mulberry do a lot of work

[scarlet mortar]

actual hellscape of a stage

forget niche i didn't even go low op

[quick pecan]

standard environment pretty easy

adverse is where the stage is actually hard

quite shrimple

those chain casters on adverse are actually cringe

[vernal lion]

yea the stage is hard

but it's no match for Ling

[vocal leaf]

penance & kaltsit

[turbid badge]

im disapointed

all those unused ops

[glass monolith]

Don't question people who will trust farm even on H stages

[quick pecan]

hung is soloing sustain w meteorite in back so tequila and greyy can a mimir

[turbid badge]

wow not sesa

disappin#ted

[quick pecan]

i am sesaless

my spuria buffing dreams died to cringe

[turbid badge]

[quick pecan]

i can still spuria buff executor

[limpid siren]

Real

[tidal sedge]

How do you do Lumens Paradox sim?

[vernal lion]

isn't it just "Irene simp" stage

[tidal sedge]

...

[radiant mesa]

are you having trouble finding the stage not doing it

[tidal sedge]

I know where it is

Its just i keep getting one or two leaks

[radiant mesa]

then follow a guide

[tidal sedge]

Is it just timing Irenes skill?

[radiant mesa]

I dont know i dont have lumen raised

[vernal lion]

truly tho

[tidal sedge]

Then i think i can do it on my own

Its just learning the timing

For her event debut, Hibifier is kinda frustrating to use in EX-8.

All the multi target and global damage

[vernal lion]

you leak because of the Brandguider,
when it is lower than 50% hp, it will gain 2 block counts and x4 def buff

right at that moment, there are 1 Brandguider and 1 Swarmcaller

[tidal sedge]

...

[vernal lion]

you did proc the skill too soon

[tidal sedge]

Yeah bc of the big guy

[vernal lion]

the Irene in that paradox has been defaulted, she's the same as the guide on youtube

even Eckogen did it with Lumen level 1

you need to correct the time to use skill

[tidal sedge]

I got it

Had to wait for preds to move in

[vernal lion]

glad you understand

paradox simulation is just a mini puzzle game

[deft badger]

the f- is that stage?

lumen simulation haaa since when does he have one xD

[vernal lion]

check Paradox tag in Management tho

[deft badger]

will do in a sec, wasting sanity atm 😄

[tidal sedge]

Ethans is super easy

[turbid badge]

theres ones where i can list that are way easier than ethans lol

dont need to hit skill or use that invis reveal thing

[tidal sedge]

Lol

[tropic valve]

ceylon paradox took me a while

even though it's not hard to figure out what they want you to do with ceylon, it's still kinda janky

[tidal sedge]

I see

Hmmmmm

(Yes i still havent done this one yet)

[spice mortar]

Its easy until last wave

[tidal sedge]

👍

[scarlet mortar]

basically every anni

[limpid siren]

Thus why the whole mode is boring

[tidal sedge]

It's kind of a shame too. In some maps you can see how redeploying was meant to be used for particular problems

But AK auto imperfections make afk strats more appealing along with the length

[limpid siren]

Skip tickets should ease that burden a bit

[tidal sedge]

True. I guess its more design isn't taking advantage of it besides the occasional 'gotcha' moments and the heavyish final wave

Or sometimes both simultaneously like the DV annihilation

[limpid siren]

400 enemies sounds great if it's like

4 big waves of 100 enemies pouring in

[tropic valve]

yeah

it's tedious to rerun the first 300 or 350 when something goes wrong

[limpid siren]

i know the design of early annihilations revolved around being meaningful, but beatable milestones for noobs

but like

the rotating annihilations don't have to pull punches anymore

IC-S-1 CM and other horde stages remain some of the most fun for me

[tropic valve]

yeah that one was memorable

[tidal sedge]

Czerny talent hurts Kreide when he does Resonance Overload. Interesting.

[limpid siren]

break out all the counter units and see how long it takes to kill him

[tidal sedge]

He seems to lose like 5-7% if I pop Czerny s2 in phase 1

Also his pathing is so ridiculously long I could probably kill phase 1 via Czerny retaliation tbh

Legit GA-EX-8 Andoain levels of luxurious pathing

I used Lee in the initial run so I never knew Kreide actually had this kind of pathing

[tropic valve]

I wonder if you don't touch Kreide in any way

except pop him at 1 HP

can you clear?

[tidal sedge]

He'll kill himself ye

[tropic valve]

nice

[tidal sedge]

He does the self harm attack even if there's no ops deployed

Well, idk if he'd kill himself both phases this way

But phase 1 for sure

I'll give it a shot. I'm struggling to come up with a strat I find fun otherwise.

LMAO

Resonance Overload is considered a melee attack

My s2m3 Exfed is getting ammo refills from it

[limpid siren]

Melee is defined in a funny way by hg iirc

It’s why ranged dodge is disproportionately weaker than melee dodge

Because melee gets the lion’s share of attacks

[tidal sedge]

Also Kreide does not have the pathing to kill himself both phases without cc

[tidal sedge]

I was thinking there's probably some weirdness with that. Like if s2 Exfed blocks Paranoia Illusion, are the shots melee or ranged at that point?

[limpid siren]

Does he block them?

[tidal sedge]

Not sure. Haven't tried it yet. But I'd like to eventually

[limpid siren]

From memory the definition revolves around “melee = no projectile”

How other games would define hitscan basically

[tidal sedge]

Interesting.

[limpid siren]

Projectiles don’t have to be the thing we see either, apparently silverash’s projectile isn’t tenzin

[tidal sedge]

That's hilarious.

Actually, shooters with hitscan weapons do the same thing. So I guess it's not that weird.

[long epoch]

Melee ranged attack

[tidal sedge]

I remember how one of the dev commentaries on Team Fortress 2 mentions how the projectiles from the shotguns are purely visual.

[long epoch]

Reminding me of some game where there's the enemy that take reduced damage of ranged attack but some melee unit has long-ranged attack that classified as melee so it gets no reduction.

[tidal sedge]

They're actually hitscan and hit immediately, and the discrepancy is noticeable if one attempts to use shotguns vs long range targets

[limpid siren]

[tidal sedge]

Though with their damage falloff beyond short range, it's not worth actually using them that way outside of sniping some 1 hp guy or something like that

[limpid siren]

For this, have you seen that exec s2 can dodge the missile battery barrage in ch11?

[tidal sedge]

No. But I can test that

IS testing is time consuming so I'm not into doing the PI tests rn, but the missiles will be much easier