strategy

[polar crane]

wtfart emo stealer

[celest bluff]

4 dp recovery tag but no healing tag
Come on game just give me gold cert

[dense compass]

fw masteries are so op etf

wtf

[latent anvil]

[dense compass]

i just did m1 and remember m3 friend

it add so much seconds

i didnt get ebenholz tho

rip glory pack

it making me e2 lee w po4 now

[foggy grove]

pull ebenhoe

[rich rune]

I have been using Melanite s2 on most of the stages, and it's devastatingly effective at clearing crowds low to mid level enemies out from multiple lanes if you line up the flux right.

[quick pecan]

damn she’s thick

finally last mod level

[crisp bolt]

no skin 🚮

[vernal lion]

Saria is made of Calcium

[celest bluff]

I can't decide which saria skin is the best

[crisp bolt]

I prefer mansfield because I can actually see the s3

[karmic glade]

afk

[scarlet ledge]

they kiss

[glass monolith]

And then they both perished from splash caster attack, the end

[tidal sedge]

Lucky

[celest bluff]

Can yato and Texas solo this

Survivor contract

[dark glade]

not a chance

can yato spin invis enemies?

can texas pierce trough 90 res enemies?

[celest bluff]

They have 3sec redeploy

[sullen rover]

what difficulty though

[keen gull]

No

[keen gull]

Prob

[dark glade]

this looks like deep investigation

might be doable if you can manage the invis enemies

[keen gull]

Just use silver ash to reveal

[vernal lion]

Just Surtr

[latent monolith]

I think that was the first rotating anni I got 400 on

[deft badger]

the hell is that?
@vernal lion which op is that? 😄

[celest bluff]

Well
Texas have 3k attack so she kill

[celest bluff]

Damn
How many hospital

[dark glade]

wish i can do that in d15

[peak cloak]

Flint, bud.

[vernal lion]

Flint

[peak cloak]

Beehunter, Flint and Jacky remind me about a meme. 😆

[deft badger]

lol that's a bug? 😄

hahahaha

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepunchman/images/2/2c/Serious_Side_Hops.gif

[dense compass]

jacky?

she doesnt work that well with this

[dense compass]

no?

[deft badger]

aa bud

xD

[glass monolith]

bruh

[deft badger]

hahahaha

i need my glasses hahahahaha

[celest bluff]

Warth of the spaghetti is very funky with survivor contract

I use the Rosa s3 and the damage is so stacked that the enemy die before her animation start

[dense compass]

spagetti is good w everythinng

[foggy grove]

spagetti code

[peak cloak]

even with pineapple

[timid schooner]

https://youtu.be/kRw6KFkKfcM?feature=shared

dat moment u realize how tf this is easier than ex-7 lmao

[fringe jackal]

fuck, I forgot to do the medals other than the trim

[glass monolith]

Well +1 ToDo on rerun

[glass monolith]

Reminds me of days when i used Roberta device to make La Pluma tank caster hits so she can self sustain left because cooking is my passion

[dense compass]

naga naga nogo

[scarlet ledge]

@vernal lion still peak anni

annoying shit

[dense compass]

leite No kiss

[pearl musk]

Her arts is to manipulate calcium

[sly drift]

Shangshu trail much more disgusting imo

The only anni map that took me more than 2 attempts to 400

[polar crane]

guy help

ending 4 is4

im scared

[cobalt peak]

i'm currently in need of assistance in beating this level.

[deft badger]

is that the harder one?

i guess yes since u already have a e1 exe

don't think that u can do that with the lvl of ur ops u do have right now

[deft badger]

in case u missed it lol, from help chat... 😂 😂 😂

[tropic valve]

pov: he caught metastatic

[vernal lion]

should use NG instead of Whisperain

[dense compass]

remember when u could push gertrude copy out of bounds

[vernal lion]

yes

finally found it lol

[deft badger]

😂

[peak cloak]

😂

[vernal lion]

when you're into the event mechanism too much...

[fringe jackal]

Gertrude has got it going on

[scarlet ledge]

bruh

[scarlet ledge]

kek now you reminded my jp clear

using 4★

love abusing deepcl

[vernal lion]

this one is better

[foggy grove]

oh i should do my monthly squad for catalyst

[vernal lion]

good thing I have farmed a fuck ton of rock, now just in time to use

[celest bluff]

Will: dude, what crime did I commit

[peak cloak]

Bill: u did put some pineapple pieces on a pizza.

[deft nest]

I ESCAPED THE TERROR

Should I get his token for -1 DP cost

[vernal lion]

it's your choice

if you use him

[deft nest]

I'm a noob so I might as well use him

[limpid siren]

i'd shy away from him

he's a very specific tool

young rosters benefit more from units that can be used in a wide variety of stages

for the tokens, they're fairly skippable since this is the rerun, the main reason to buy tokens on an event's debut is to guarantee some gold cert income when the event reruns

but now the only reason to pick them up is if you're certain you'll be using him

[deft badger]

get ur self gladia

she is one of the best free ops u can get

[vernal lion]

she's only best if you invest her fully tho

[deft badger]

at a point he will i guess, but yes u are right gladiia mod is just broken xD

i must say arknights has a really good sanity system, u know its good when u try other games out lol

[vernal lion]

the sanity system is when you have to come back after 12-13 hours

[glass monolith]

You mean something like - You actually drop material giving you feeling of acomplishment of used sanity while in other games you spend all energy toward single goal which takes 5-6 days and it is some cringe like upgrade skill from 7 to 8 out of 10?

[deft badger]

not like that, i did like e1 two ops for not even half of the energy i have but it restores like s- and recharging is limited

it feels like u are playing less compared to arknights where i spend hours wasting all of it

[vernal lion]

depending on gameplay

most games just take 30 minutes to 1 hour

[deft badger]

main reason i hate genshin

such a big world and u could be doing a lot of stuff but nah there is some stupid energy sistem in it

[vernal lion]

genshin is the combination of JRPG and sandbox

[glass monolith]

Screw it. It takes forever to run around doing dailies alone, then repeat same 20 second kill on domain get trash and leave for today (unless you need to climb each hill in game for ascend trash)

[vernal lion]

and you know JRPG just takes age to beat it

just like Persona series

[deft badger]

u don't really get to play much since its all capped

meh i don't care wow has a new expansion this year

POE 2 is coming out

so i will have something to play beside arknights 😄

[vernal lion]

go play AFK Arena

[deft badger]

i named wow and poe, u are telling me go play "AFK" arena lol

i clearly want something that is going to be engaging

[glass monolith]

I got bored out of first one, i wonder if second bring fresh experience or it will again turn into 500 step oneshot or be oneshoted

[peak cloak]

i play genshin too, but after i get my main account to 60 and second one to 57, get bored. gameplay just all over again and feel like i'm not using my brain anymore.

main things that keep me playing is helping people in domains and new stories, also i'm kind of a secrets finder.

[vernal lion]

gaming is grinding

[peak cloak]

beside genshin and arknight, i dont play any gacha games, those two are enough for a busy worker like me

[vernal lion]

yea gacha is main reason why it takes lots of your time tho

you can just pause your Steam games but not gacha games

[cosmic thicket]

gacha game (derogatory)

[glass monolith]

AK, Limbus, HSR for me, same story, i can't play into games which need big daily commitment because i will physically burn out

[cosmic thicket]

i only play AK

[polar crane]

try nikke minus

[vernal lion]

did try every gacha game, but Arknights is just something I only care for

[cosmic thicket]

nah nikke is gacha game derogatory

the only reason why i play ak is bc it's tower defense and has a reputation for being difficult

[glass monolith]

Tried, not for me, can't aim for shit, auto just facetank all damage

[polar crane]

why

[cosmic thicket]

if the gameplay is not challenging or interesting im not playing it

[vernal lion]

Arknights gives me hope, because strategy game is dying

[peak cloak]

yea ,still something very special for me too.

[cosmic thicket]

main selling point is half naked women 💤

[polar crane]

lore and music is good too

[cosmic thicket]

idc about lore

and every gacha game fanbase says their music is good

[glass monolith]

Lore twist are quite good

[vernal lion]

tbh tho, I would like to play game just because of the present, not too much for lore

[deft badger]

nah they fixing it, actually i even think its right now already changed u can't spam just one button and win 😄

poe 2 is going to be good

[cosmic thicket]

i was slightly excited by genshin's ccg but it's a complete clown fiesta

[vernal lion]

lore in game just gives the reason for gameplay and new characters

[glass monolith]

They fixed ways of people to achieve almost (and sometimes actual) immortality which only pushed toward builds which kill before dying.
My weak laggy PC won't hold it

[vernal lion]

lore is just a "visual novel" kind of game

reading is good, but only if it interests you

and not much is good tho

that's the fact

[deft badger]

i would straight say if u wanna play something good and don't have the pc for it EvE online is ur thing... u can run that game on literally everything

its challenging af u might even never learn to play it properly but the good thing u can do more then just pvp 😄

[glass monolith]

My main hates toward PoE:
Need to redo story from 0 each character (In Diablo 3 you do story once and then just level push all other characters in adventure)
Some content literally filter some builds, combined with imbalanced reward distrebution leading to cases when most rewarding can be something you both hate and can't do fast/at all

[deft badger]

i hate diablo with a passion especially after immortal and D4

wow is still good if u ask me wow is getting each year better, main reason people don't like it is because its time consuming and compared to like classic or TBC the raids are like 5-6 tiers harder then they have been couple years ago

but all other blizzard games are just 🚮

[deft nest]

I want to play arknights for the startegy and stage/level design, not really for the lore

Too bad strategy is my favourite type of games and it's the one dying atm

[peak cloak]

best one, i bet.

[deft badger]

btw thats not true, they are not dying we just havent seen a good one

in the past years

[celest bluff]

I give up

Not gonna fight is3 ed4

[foggy grove]

it's dying

[celest bluff]

There are 2 type of games that get tagged strategy for some fucking reasons

[deft badger]

yeah 😄

[celest bluff]

RTS and tower defense

[deft badger]

RTS

[celest bluff]

RTS which already have strategy in it

[vernal lion]

ppl don't like RTS because it's much a war game

[peak cloak]

real time strategy and tower defense

yea , like HOI4

[vernal lion]

and have to think much, micro and macro management, etc...

[deft badger]

don't know about other people but i own 90% of the paradox game shop lol

[vernal lion]

just try COH1 and 2

[celest bluff]

Tf hoi4

Hoi4 is a map game

And people that value their time don't play map game

[vernal lion]

I would say it's a simulation

just like Civilization

[celest bluff]

There are RTS before command and conquer right

[vernal lion]

yes

[deft badger]

which one? one of the oldest i have been playing as a kid was warcraft but didn't try anything else after that i joined WoW in 2007 and kinder never left just recently started playing some strategy games

first warcraft was in 1994, i played W2 and W3

[vernal lion]

Utopia is the first RTS game in the world

[deft badger]

have to google that wondering how that thing did look like lol

[vernal lion]

pixel

[deft nest]

I haven't seen a tower defense game in ages I need a quality one now

[deft badger]

bro 1981 i wasn't even born at that time lol

[deft badger]

same, tower defense would be so nice on a phone... like warcraft was back in the day i would kill for a game like that on my phone

that's how i found arknights was on google searching for tower defense games on phone

[deft nest]

I love tower defenses with a path that the enemies follow

I love paths

[polar crane]

like ballon td?

[deft nest]

yes, that map design

[deft badger]

have to take a look if i can find W3 with all the tower defense mods

[celest bluff]

The tower defense I like would be

You have a map that okay have some terrain features but you can control where the enemies would go

Basically Reclamation Algorithm

The concept already existed but not many game do that

[latent monolith]

The only games I remember doing that were flash games

[celest bluff]

Fuck

[latent monolith]

But if you are looking at non flash td games there's like btd6 (although the earlier ones were flash), pvz and ak

[deft nest]

I dislike how many ppl do "tower defense" games where you have to defend a circle and the enemies come in the center
I dislike that level design on so many levels

[celest bluff]

What even is that design

[deft nest]

you have to place troops at your base, which is in the center

[celest bluff]

But can I build a maze myself

[deft nest]

no

[latent monolith]

Something like the perfect tower? I consider that to be a different kind of game tbh, it's plays kinda differently to regular td games

[deft nest]

It's straignt to your base

Free space

[deft badger]

do u wanna play it solo or online but i bet that thing even still works today

[deft nest]

I love games with a path that enemies follow because you can interact with the background and make it interesting too

[deft badger]

i don't know if u ever played it but w3 is still a option saw now u can even find it online lol

[latent monolith]

the funny thing is that btd6 is kinda miserable on mobile compared to pc especially for the more involved gamemodes

bosses/racing on mobile

[celest bluff]

There is Taur tower defense but that is more like a top down shooter

[deft nest]

I love deathrun games too (they have a path, yes I adore paths) but the deathrun genre is literally dead, I don't think it even existed

[celest bluff]

Then there is xmorph defense

Definitely should go check that out

[deft nest]

looks interesting

[celest bluff]

The riftbreaker from the same studio

[viscid fractal]

Should i get him to lvl 80

[polar crane]

stop building him

not worth your investment

[viscid fractal]

K

[celest bluff]

Or alternatively

E2lv90 everyone

You will probably die before you done

[viscid fractal]

Hmmmm

You know what

İm gonna e2lvl90 evreyone

Just for the funny

[foggy grove]

good luck,it's very expensive

[deft badger]

why to e2 two six stars if u can lvl one to 90 xD

[glass monolith]

My end game goal is just e2 everyone

[vernal lion]

same

[deft nest]

Should I pull on the 4th anniversary banner or pull for Typhon

[karmic glade]

Both

[deft nest]

I barely have 30 pulls dies

[vernal lion]

yep, that's the disadvantage for a newbie

[deft nest]

headhunt permits my BELOVEDS

Do I farm mats for Cutter?

For elite

[polar crane]

sure

[deft nest]

Do higher mat stages give more mat rewards at the end?

[karmic glade]

Some doesn't, check penguin statistics or #bot-spam

[glass monolith]

Some stages has more chance for material than others

[latent anvil]

maybe they mean the resource stages

[deft nest]

The chips

The guard chips

[latent anvil]

well chips there are two kinds

[karmic glade]

Chip gives entirely different chips

[glass monolith]

Second stage give chips for second promotion

[latent anvil]

one for e1 and one for e2

[deft nest]

aren't they mats?

[latent anvil]

for promoting the first time you farm first chip stage, second promotion farm second chip stage

[glass monolith]

And if you promote 5* or 6* rarity second time you need to farm AP stages as well to get certs to buy glue to build dual chip in factory and i think you need factory 3 for that

Could be wrong because it is one of those unlocks which i done years ago (suffering of beign 243 max right, i have no memory of what level 2 buildings do )

[deft nest]

oh my eliting ops costs so much sanity

[vital arrow]

welcome to arknights

[deft nest]

Now I don't feel as eliting a 4*

Which Cutter skill is better

[glass monolith]

You can skip AP stages and factory step for second promotion of 4*s and it is almost half of chips from 36 cost stage (5 instead 8)

[polar crane]

s1 most of the time

[cyan gorge]

S1 general use, s2 when you want to nuke drones

[vital arrow]

don't tell them E2 and mastery costs

[glass monolith]

~~Don't tell them module blocks are time gate and he need to spend buy out them in red cert shop monthly ~~

[rigid sundial]

Which ones should I max the module of first? I can do all of the chars inside the thing

I'm also gonna e2 mudrock soon but I was thinking of Leveling Kal'tsit first

Right now, I'm thinking of getting Kal'tsit's module, Ho'olheyak, Rosmontis, and then YatoAlter

[rigid sundial]

I'm not much of a meta slave so my priority is weird it's Ho'olheyak, Kal'tsit, Rosmontis, Schwarz, and finally, YatoAlter

[polar crane]

do kal first

other dont matter much in the order

[rigid sundial]

Alright thanks!

[cyan gorge]

Kal (mod y) > Mud e2 > Rosmontis > the rest

[deft nest]

Why does silverash look like he's on the verge to die for not sleeping 1 month

[midnight veldt]

This will be enough to clear Anni 3?

[latent anvil]

probably yea

could also bring a pusher

for the bot lane

[midnight veldt]

Replacing who?

[latent anvil]

uh, texas i think

only need 1 vg

[midnight veldt]

Do I need Sl7?

on the pusher?

[latent anvil]

i think so yea

are you borrowing?

[midnight veldt]

I guess I can borrow a pusher

but I wanted to borrow someone to help clear after 350

[cyan gorge]

It doesn't cost much to get a sl7 e1 max Shaw

[latent anvil]

just borrow a thorns

dont borrow a pusher if youre gonna borrow, honestly with thorns you might not even need a pusher

[midnight veldt]

Put him bot lane?

I cleared to 375 without a pusher before, even with no E2s for that matter

[latent anvil]

up one and to the right one of the bottom right ranged tile

[midnight veldt]

Here?

[latent anvil]

er

[midnight veldt]

Can someone backseat gaming me, I'm small brain

[latent anvil]

good thorns spot

[midnight veldt]

I'll try it, when do I put him in tho?

order doesn't matter?

[latent anvil]

whenever, try to do it after ranged ops

[deft badger]

one tile back or thorns dies

[latent anvil]

just give him a medic

or let him die

[deft badger]

i am thinking right now would he die 😄

because gummy e2 nearly dies

[latent anvil]

gummy e2 doesnt kill anything

[deft badger]

just thinking about stats dude

[latent anvil]

oh ye @midnight veldt if you leak you can force close ur game and it wont burn sanity

[midnight veldt]

[deft badger]

at 350, 2 drones spawn there plus that ballista, gummy struggles hard to survive...

but try it i wanna know if thorns can survive it

[latent anvil]

yea im trying it rn ill let you know if thons dies

last time i ran anni 3 mustve been 1.5 years ago on an alt

[little orchid]

it's been a while since i used thorns there, but iirc he dies without someone diverting drones to themselves from him

[midnight veldt]

going like this for now

[latent anvil]

ayo he has no medic

[surreal star]

i'm thinking something like this

[latent anvil]

💀

ifrit borrow actually good

but face surtr up

[deft badger]

i expect him to die with e1 st healer

[midnight veldt]

Don't have warf and Cuora is low level

[latent anvil]

[deft badger]

switch the top healer to bot dude

u need the aoe healer on top

and st on bot

[little orchid]

also can place thorns on C8 and when drones spawn, just drop surtr in the middle to draw fire and kill some hammer bois

[latent anvil]

my saria is too strong so i will sell saria later for testing

also my placements are actuallyk inda trash lemme redo it 💀

[deft badger]

keep going i wanna know if he survives 350

drone spawn 😄

but i am kinder sure he doesn't

[vital arrow]

Thorns too far right

Put him one tile left and saria one tile to the right

You want to block the midlane

Why is there an empty space in the middle

[steep robin]

can I clear this using this party? or should I use a support unit?

[midnight veldt]

[vital arrow]

Throns will probably just get gibbed on wave 350

Oneshot by 3 arts masters

[vital arrow]

You can borrow yato to clean up the grudgebearers

Or you can just use gravel and bait them one by one

[latent anvil]

are those the drones

[vital arrow]

Yeh

[latent anvil]

he just insta kills them tho

[deft badger]

its 2 drones, balista and a caster

[latent anvil]

is it the wave with a bunch of def crushers

[vital arrow]

If he does then its fine ig

[deft badger]

yes

right when they spawn

[latent anvil]

i remember he kills them first before the def crushers

[deft badger]

but u have to count in a e1 healer

urs survives it

[latent anvil]

yea my healer is e1 rn

[deft badger]

if u have saria and e2 healer

[latent anvil]

i gotta kick saria later ill test it

[vital arrow]

Does.saria even reach him

[latent anvil]

his saria was on s2

[midnight veldt]

E2 Saria 1s1m should be enough

[latent anvil]

yea s1m1 better

[vital arrow]

Why is their saria so far back

Whats the point of using her if she cant heal thorns

[deft badger]

i did make for someone a video did have kinder the same setup but gummy was in range for them to aggro on her and she nearly died e2 btw with e1 healer xD

[torn ice]

she also dont heal insider

assuming this is s2 usage

[vital arrow]

That is a scuffed saria placement on any skill

[torn ice]

ya need to be 2 tiles up ahead

[vital arrow]

Also why is perfumer chilling up there

[torn ice]

that one is fine cause of double ranged i guess

[midnight veldt]

Most reach

[torn ice]

since her job is to heal the 2 snipers

[vital arrow]

I'd swap perfumer and silencr

[midnight veldt]

She couldn't reach everyone from back

[vital arrow]

And pull thorns one tile to the left

[latent anvil]

im almost at 200

[vital arrow]

Perfumer is just taking unnecessary fire there

[deft badger]

anni3 there are just 2 places to watch out if u use thorns, bot right corner where the 2 drones spawns ince they do a lot of dmg they kill 100% a e1 tank u have to replace him after that its at 350 and at 300 top sniper spot drone

put lapp or arene infront the sniper

[midnight veldt]

ok, new plan

[midnight veldt]

Don't have none

[torn ice]

this is better

[deft badger]

its ok u have 2 snipers

[vital arrow]

Swap perf and silence

[deft badger]

its going to work out

[torn ice]

tho swapping silence to be behind grey and perfumer in place of silence would be better

[vital arrow]

Put silence behind greythroat

[deft badger]

if they kill the drone fast enough if they don't that 2 snipers die

[vital arrow]

Idk if meteorite can handle the defense crushers

[midnight veldt]

I have E2 surtr for that

[quick pecan]

does she have masteries

[vital arrow]

Well its fine theb

[deft badger]

doesn't have to

[midnight veldt]

Meteorite is E1

[torn ice]

s2 liskarm? :pepelaugh:

[deft badger]

u just remove top defender at 300

[midnight veldt]

S1

[vital arrow]

Idt meteorite is even necessary if you have surtr

[deft badger]

and let the crusher run a circle in to thorns

[vital arrow]

She's just

Fluff

[quick pecan]

if the meteorite was e2 s1m3 she would be cookin

a lot of her power is in masteries + mod

less easy to get over def at e1

[vital arrow]

@midnight veldt

[midnight veldt]

[crystal cargo]

Put ur thorns on Texas tile facing up

[vital arrow]

Just do it that way first and see if it sticks

[latent anvil]

i mean my thorns didnt die but my myrtle who was sitting below did

[vital arrow]

No thats shit placement

[crystal cargo]

It covers middle and bottom wdym

It’s how I did it

[vital arrow]

He does less on that position

[latent anvil]

on s1m1 saria, thorns shouldnt die in my spot

[vital arrow]

In the current setup he camps all bottom half lane

If hes bottom facing up he wont kill the DCs on time

[crystal cargo]

Also why is silence at the top instead of to the left of grey

[vital arrow]

Backread

[crystal cargo]

That’s fine since they loop to the middle

[vital arrow]

Yes theres is also a DC coming botlane

[vital arrow]

Someone gets stunned

Then leaks

[latent anvil]

💀

kroos is alive and she was there before 300 if that means anything

my silence same lvl as his silence

[midnight veldt]

They killed insider

But thorns just kills everyone, so it doesn't really change anything

Destreze is S1?

[vital arrow]

S3

[midnight veldt]

It's S3M3 lvl 90 thorns

[vital arrow]

Yay?

[crystal cargo]

Ok

[midnight veldt]

Ok 350

What is a good spot that alot of Def crushers circle around to drop Surtr, just incase?

[vital arrow]

Huh?

[crystal cargo]

You don’t really need surtr for them Ngl

[vital arrow]

Your problem is the toplane

2 def crushers go there

Use surte for them

And 1 def crusher leader on wave 380

Thorns cant kill it on his own

So help him with someone

[deft badger]

remove the top defender at 300

and place him back at 350 after the crusher passes that part

[latent anvil]

just sell meteorite for a caster

and that should be it

[deft badger]

just watch from that point u just need thorns for that map 4 defenders 2 snipers 1 aoe healer 1 st healer... thats it not surtr or any other bs xD

[latent anvil]

oh ye @deft badger my thorns doesnt die at all but myrtle does

[midnight veldt]

Cleared it

[latent anvil]

[vital arrow]

Ok good

[midnight veldt]

there was alot of panicked placements

and sacrifced myrtle

[vital arrow]

400?

[midnight veldt]

to stall the crusher elite

yeah

[deft badger]

i think my would die with the st healer i used xD

[vital arrow]

Ok now just farm anni 2

[latent anvil]

my thorns spot works and thats all that matters

[midnight veldt]

I already got Anni 2 to 400

[vital arrow]

I mean for weekly auto farm

[midnight veldt]

How do you get these?

for 1800 cap

[latent anvil]

rotating one

[vital arrow]

Rest avenue map

Clear 400 on that

[midnight veldt]

I need backseat gaming again

hehehe

[latent anvil]

[vital arrow]

That map is hell

Like

Actual hell

[latent anvil]

wat

[vital arrow]

-50%sp

Cringe

[latent anvil]

make a square

[midnight veldt]

Oh it's that flux thing

[vital arrow]

I just never bothered with the flux and bruteforced it

[midnight veldt]

Any general tips for it?

[vital arrow]

What would an actual good placement look like for the flux

[midnight veldt]

Will my party be enough?

[vital arrow]

You'll need to keep 2 lanes alive for that map

3 if you count the middle one

[midnight veldt]

There's certain ops that would be very good for this, that I don't have

[vital arrow]

Like who

[midnight veldt]

Like mlynar?

[vital arrow]

I dont use mlynar for this stage

[latent anvil]

chongyue horn

[vital arrow]

Since he needs flux and thats a hassle for him

[midnight veldt]

Only 6* i have

[vital arrow]

I do use chongus and horn

[deft badger]

e2 cutter cantabile

[vital arrow]

Imma just say I'm not smart enough to work around the flux

[latent anvil]

just make a rectangle

[vital arrow]

So i'll just let someone else take the wheel

Yeh thats what I tried the first time

But it looks so scuffed

[deft badger]

did u get cantabile, i guess yes if u did roll for exe alter... plus get ur self cutter

[midnight veldt]

I didn't play at that time

I have cutter

[deft badger]

exe alter was 2 days ago

[midnight veldt]

Ah

[deft nest]

How do you have so many 6*s then

[midnight veldt]

I only played for like a month or 2 methinks

[deft badger]

he was playing at that time he just doesn't know who i mean with exe alter

[deft nest]

ohhh

[deft badger]

look at ur vanguards if u have canta

[midnight veldt]

I thought you meant Texalter

I'm blind

[deft badger]

would replace her for texas she is a 5 star ines

and cutter just nukes

[midnight veldt]

No I don't

[deft badger]

since u did e1 ceobe well use her

[midnight veldt]

but I know who she is, borrowed her once

[deft badger]

ok nvm use what u have

btw go get ur self gladiia

[midnight veldt]

I don't think I'll clear it

[midnight veldt]

She welfare?

[deft badger]

yes

[midnight veldt]

Which event?

[glass monolith]

Under tides

[deft badger]

minus knows

i suck when it comes to remembering names lol

[glass monolith]

I just named random eggs related event

[midnight veldt]

I'll get her on monday then

[deft badger]

she becomes broken at e2 with her mod

[glass monolith]

Module stage 2 to be exact

[midnight veldt]

Which archetype is she?

[deft badger]

specialist

[midnight veldt]

What she do

[glass monolith]

Damn i sould have saved that meme image

[midnight veldt]

I was planning to E2 Ceobe or Suzu

[deft badger]

do people use gladiia specter combos?

[deft badger]

i think u lack atm some lane holders

lol

[midnight veldt]

So is she a welfare 6*?

[deft badger]

yes

[glass monolith]

Yes. and she is as broken as we will get

[midnight veldt]

So she's even more broken if u use Skadi too?

[deft badger]

skadi specter spalter

i am just going to ignore the fact adreana exists since i don't like her

saw minus roll gladiia specter seems to work fine for him so yeah AH broken

[glass monolith]

S1 can have charges (not sure if we have any other puller who can do that)
S2 attack 2 targets in increased range (I forgot if it is 2x3 or 3x3) and pull them with decent duration (which is again, i don't recall pullers who have skills allowing to pull with attacks for duration)
S3 roots main target and does some arts damage.
Talent with module stage 2 reduce Physical and Arts from ALL sources, for ALL Abyssal hunters

[deft badger]

i would focus on getting gladiia specter

then just borrow spalter

skadi is ok but not a must

[glass monolith]

Oh also like 3% max hp regen per second (stage 3 is overkill, but if you go all abyssal hunters, why not )

[midnight veldt]

Spalter is?

[deft badger]

AH can clear most of the content without any problems

[cyan gorge]

Specter the Unchained

limited 6* dollkeeper specialist

[midnight veldt]

So u can have both Specter and Specter alter?

[deft badger]

alter version of specter

yes

in ur case i would e2 now a cutter she is cheap

[glass monolith]

Me having fun with H12-4 with AH + Silence alter: #strategy message

[deft badger]

then spam the hell out of IS till u clear it

u have surtr that will be easy with thorns surtr

borrow thorns at the start and just roll

[midnight veldt]

I almost cleared ending 2 the other day

[glass monolith]

Year ago we couldnt bring both alter and original, with texas alter they removed that restriction for good

[deft badger]

IS2 then switch to IS3 when u are done till then u will have couple e2s

[midnight veldt]

I don't like IS2

It's way harder than IS3 smh

[deft badger]

just start with thorns xD

[glass monolith]

IS2 Hard kick harder than IS3 because you just eat enemy stats +40% from start

[midnight veldt]

even on green difficulty?

Also missions with civilians

[glass monolith]

Roster issue

If you afraid of civilians IS4 got you covered

[midnight veldt]

They got HE civilians in there

[glass monolith]

STAGE WITH 3 TYPES OF CIVILIANS FROM DIFFERENT EVENTS

[midnight veldt]

don't tell me

[tropic valve]

25% - 40% depending on cursed relic

[midnight veldt]

I almost had a heart attack

[tropic valve]

the 40% (chachek) is one of the harder ones

[deft badger]

don't know why people have the feeling IS3 is easier, the boss yes is but the way to the boss is not i hate that RNG

[glass monolith]

As person who did deep dive or whatever which forces you into hard relic i can say - There are no relics but 40% one

[deft badger]

and someone please tell me IS4 isn't that much RNG based

IS2 is just brain afk for me thorns get surtr till end gg

[midnight veldt]

I played a bit of both IS2 and IS3 and so far IS3 is way easier, the missions are way simpler with limited rosters and when you get unlucky

[glass monolith]

700 damage Kevins with +50 attack speed, you said something?

[deft badger]

i bet i have a over 95% clear rate in IS2

[tropic valve]

I mean at low D you don't really interact with rejections too much

[cyan gorge]

IS3 only feels hard when you brute force without having any form of cc raised

[tropic valve]

so you don't have to trudge through the rng of ops catching metastatic

[midnight veldt]

Want to raise May just to make it simpler in there

[cyan gorge]

May is cracked in IS3

do it

[tropic valve]

she's cracked in both

worth raising

[midnight veldt]

I once got a temporary one

carried me to Ending 2

with 16 stacks of Survivor contract

was not enough to clear tho

[deft badger]

just find something that works, u don't have to like it spam it get the mats that's one of the best places to get mats to e2 ur stuff when u start

1. Event
2. IS

[midnight veldt]

I'm lvl 58 in IS3

and lvl 5 in IS2

[deft badger]

the moment u find a way u will have a 90%+ clear rate and just destroy it

[midnight veldt]

Never borrowed ops in IS

[deft badger]

i think that i lost in IS3 like 5 times from lvl58 to max

[midnight veldt]

cause I never knew you can

[cyan gorge]

Only at the start

[midnight veldt]

I know

but still

I always get the guaranteed 4* temporary at the start

best success rate for me

[cyan gorge]

Good way to test 4*s you never considered raising

[midnight veldt]

Exactly my thoughts

I saw the light of May that way

[cyan gorge]

IS converted me to liking Deepcolor and Ambriel

[midnight veldt]

Deepcolor is the first 4* I got

but I only used her for the first few levels

[glass monolith]

Summoners be like that

[midnight veldt]

I have Mayer

[glass monolith]

First you don't understand the point. then you break fabric of reality

[midnight veldt]

tho didn't use her yet

[cyan gorge]

Deepcolor, or summoners in general, feels underwhelming till you get her module

[midnight veldt]

I once got a temporary Scene in IS

she is very fun

[glass monolith]

Mayer's dog not doing S2 when stunned is so dumb

[midnight veldt]

I think May is worth raising for story progression too, since I don't have any 6* marksman gotta do with what I have

As funny as that sounds, I'm stuck at Ch5

[deft badger]

6 star marksman are trash anyway xD

did u get that new guy?

[glass monolith]

[midnight veldt]

Insider?

[cyan gorge]

Best 4* sniper so yes

[deft badger]

well they are not but its not like they are much stronger then 5 stars

[cyan gorge]

I still use her regularly

[deft badger]

yes

[midnight veldt]

Yea, full pot

[deft badger]

he is good

[midnight veldt]

I heard alot of folk say GreyThroat is bad

[tropic valve]

nani

Archetto pog

[midnight veldt]

makes me regret E2 max lvling her

[tropic valve]

well, Greythroat is basically worse Krooster, but Krooster is so good that even a worse Krooster ends up being good

[cyan gorge]

Greythroat is still servicable

[tropic valve]

I also E2 maxed Greythroat 0 regrets

[cyan gorge]

budget Cheeto

only bird I don't own tho

[midnight veldt]

I have her S2M3 even

[tropic valve]

same

[midnight veldt]

and mod 3

[deft badger]

if u have her don't e2 a other one now, i would just save

get that cutter

[tropic valve]

in fact all 5* Marksmen are good

[midnight veldt]

It's not like I'm rushing anywhere

[deft badger]

maybe some other 4 stars since they are cheap and do ur events get that gladiia

[tropic valve]

the only Marksman who is meh would be Jessica

even then, she has a powerstrike for Spinach synergy at least

[cyan gorge]

May is that with a slow

[midnight veldt]

Hoping I'd get something good at the event banner, gonna save some pulls

the eyjaberry one

Maybe I'll even buy the 2 10 pull tickets

[cyan gorge]

Eyja2 banner has new 5* bird

[deft badger]

are healers worth even a big investment in future content?

[midnight veldt]

Ppl say Eyjalter is the top meta healer

so everyone gonna simp for her probably

[deft badger]

she is but u kinder don't really need healers later lol

[midnight veldt]

well if I get her, It'll be a good investment, since I don't really have much

[deft badger]

better focus on clearing as much u can this month

[midnight veldt]

But I want a 6* ranged guard or some 6* marksman

[deft badger]

story, side story, inter for typhon

farm that

[midnight veldt]

Yeah I clear the old events every week

[crystal cargo]

thorns is in banner if you really want him

[midnight veldt]

I doubt I'll get him, if you mean the current banner

[deft badger]

don't roll on that... xD

[midnight veldt]

it will get replaced with Eyjalter right?

[cyan gorge]

Until he gets punched in the mouth by H12 stages

[deft badger]

he has saria

so any elemental healer with saria is fine xD

[midnight veldt]

Yeah, I think I lucked out on getting Saria and Surtr early I guess

And Ceobe I even got from recruitment, and I heard that stuff's mad rare

[deft badger]

just farm get typhon

[midnight veldt]

The thing Is I often waste to farm mats

[cyan gorge]

Using Saria is fine, but being caught medicless when it matters is moment

[crystal cargo]

not a good idea

[midnight veldt]

Let's go

[deft badger]

if u wanna buy something monthly ticket 5usd

[midnight veldt]

I have the monthly one

it gonna expire in 3 days tho

but I'll buy it again

[cosmic thicket]

what the heck

that's not even a tag combo

[cyan gorge]

Yeah that's a dead tag combo

[midnight veldt]

I thought Incantation medics have DPS in their tags

guess not

[cosmic thicket]

none of them are in recruitment

[cyan gorge]

they aren't in recruitment yet

[midnight veldt]

Well atleast you can laugh at this

[glass monolith]

Don't want to add salt on wound... But they are not DPS tag either

[midnight veldt]

Yeah I went to check my Hibalter

thanks

[glass monolith]

Medic Ranged Healing, exception is reed alter but by time she come to recruitment Yostar will abandon AK and move on

[crystal cargo]

oh that

[midnight veldt]

Oh, sorry I wasn't replying to you

[deft badger]

monthlies are the best...

20 pull pack and the card..

[atomic monolith]

Is there a new meta brewing in cn or will arturia just be a nice flex unit to have?

[tidal sedge]

Hard to say as of now

She saw some use in high end CC at least

[atomic monolith]

Yeah, HG seems to be experimenting with more elemental damage, i wonder iff we'll get an elemental damage focused melee unit soon

[tidal sedge]

6 star primals will probably be a good look at what 6 star elemental packages will be like

[atomic monolith]

Since Caster and support have new element archetypes

[tidal sedge]

I'm interested in what gacha ritualists will look like

[glass monolith]

Eyjaberry summoning ritual - set volume to 0

[tidal sedge]

5* I mean

I'm really hoping to not have to resort to 6* power to enjoy elemental play

[atomic monolith]

She basically does true damage, since we don't have many enemies with elements resistance yet

Also she can widdle down patriot first stage with only skill one

Reed alter explosions can spread Virtuosas skill 2 necrosis apparently

[tidal sedge]

Source shenanigans

Does Pass s3 work with Virtuosa s2

That'd be decently spicy if I'm doing 6* stuff

[atomic monolith]

I'm pretty confident it can

Because it looks like the dot from reeds debuff counts as a hit for her necrosis

I might be mistaken tho

[tidal sedge]

I vaguely remember how Pass s3 has weird interactions with effects that track source is why I'm wondering

[atomic monolith]

Hmmmm

Wish i could check, don't have passenger lol

[vocal leaf]

saria-suzu-reed best combo 🔥

[crystal cargo]

Mudrock carried Fr

[crisp bolt]

I did a similar thing to delete the boss

but I did suzurat + mlynar sweep

and saria s3 to keep the boss slowed while cooldowns came back up

[dry night]

how am i beating this

[foggy grove]

uh which stage is that again and which part are you struggling with

[dry night]

LE-4

struggling with the top path filled with the colossal things

[foggy grove]

point the flux to colosus

they need 2 block unit to be blocked

when on the flux their res and def is greatly reduced

[candid beacon]

How do I clear LE-8 without Lee bruh

[ornate pond]

just nuke the map with arts dmg/mlynar

[dry night]

oo

[ornate pond]

or theres a ling solo iirc

[crisp bolt]

TiL, that's how you're supposed to use flux

[ornate pond]

tbh the event is pretty easy even if u ignore mechanics

[foggy grove]

ye for developed acc you can ignore it
but 1.2k def and 50 res collosus is too painful for newb to ignore mechanic

[quick pecan]

yeah newbies get punished hard for attempting to ignore mechanics

[candid beacon]

Is it just me or sometimes Mlynar doesn't kill the boss in 1 go
Like out of 20 tries, only 5 times Mlynar actually kill him

[quick pecan]

splash arts damage to the face

higher def / res

[limpid siren]

Ignoring mechanics is the privilege of old accounts, then they get to come here and ask why a new player is having trouble

[candid beacon]

I legit can NOT find Lee E2 anywhere and this stage is taking longer than Hortus or literally anything I've played

I do not have a high rarity squad bro I'm just 4 months in

[limpid siren]

@sly pivot has lee raised

He’s also very happy to answer any questions you might have

[tidal sedge]

I can hook you up with mine. I've lots of open spaces due to my break some time ago. Will e2 60 mod1 suffice?

[quick pecan]

it makes the 3* skill cycles feel really bad which i don’t think they’re contextualizing

[candid beacon]

yes bro
😭

[tidal sedge]

Lurker#7756

My ign I mean

[limpid siren]

Lurker taught me everything i know about ak, so he’s also good to seek advice from

[candid beacon]

Elucine#0961

[tidal sedge]

Request sent

[candid beacon]

bro thanks u so much

god bless your soul

[tidal sedge]

Hopefully the strat turns out well

[dry night]

LE-5
field and spire casters are hurting me

[tidal sedge]

May I see your ops?

[dry night]

@tidal sedge

[tidal sedge]

Oh. More to work with I expected. That's good.

Very unfortunate your e2 has a shaky matchup vs LE enemies though

[keen gull]

Borrow mlynar

Burst em

[ornate pond]

u can copy a ling clear if u dont plan on farming sugar (which you shouldnt). one suggestion though is to use click > amiya as a general caster. you dont exactly need greyy there either, could swap in something else for more arts dmg since your team is physical heavy

[tidal sedge]

The field casters have 15k hp, 500 def, and 60 res wtf

[dry night]

oh no i just want music sheets

[ornate pond]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15L4y1T71o/

gl

[dry night]

whos that op?

[royal delta]

spire casters have no defense, exusai or really anything with burst just makes them fall over dead

[ornate pond]

ling

[royal delta]

field casters - either you burst them or you make sure everyone standing in the field has friends nearby to kill the stun orbs

[sly pivot]

[limpid siren]

You’re too slow old man

[dry night]

is she getting rerun

[ornate pond]

just borrow

but no, shes limited

you can spark

[dry night]

i hate borrowing

[tidal sedge]

Their DoT doesn't trigger defensive recovery either hmm

This might sound weird but Penance s2 might be decent chip vs the field caster

[royal delta]

the DoT isn't that bad - they have a long cooldown and the dot is tied to a summon that dies in a few hits, you just need to be able to hit it

[tidal sedge]

It's not the damage that's the problem

It's that Penance has like no way to use s3

Anyways, I'd try something like Silence + Cutter top lane. Penance, Lappland, Shining, and maybe Shirayuki bottom?

Open by using a filler ranged op and vg to direct beam to the sealed node

If Cutter + medic can hold top, then everything else can be dedicated to killing the field caster

and by hold top, I mean try to keep Cutter at edge of st medic range to minimize Spire Caster hitting 2 ops

[celest bluff]

Farming grindstone this event

[limpid siren]

[tidal sedge]

LE-6 has execution gate. Annoying.

[sly drift]

What's execution gate

[karmic glade]

just use firewatch and perfectly time the skill

[gray stone]

Kill gate

but with style

[tidal sedge]

Execution as in kill ye

[gray stone]

What's the kill gate btw

Is it the saxophone guy

[tidal sedge]

12th enemy

Although if you don't use originite for farming, there's little reason to care about speed farming

Except for the fun of it

[karmic glade]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av742542704/

[tidal sedge]

That Firewatch s2 at the end

Honestly I'm surprised low op speed runs bother to fish for Firewatch rng to such extents sometimes

Kinda funny to compare to high end play in other games which are oftentimes more willing to use more resources for better reliability

[sly drift]

You mean the last enemy delay? There's no such thing on LE-6, unlike HE-8

[tidal sedge]

The purple slug spawns are gated by 12th enemy dying in LE-6

[sly drift]

Also it was like one second difference. Do ppl really care about such thing

[tidal sedge]

It's usually done for its own sake like I said earlier

[karmic glade]

you lose like 3 sec if you do it with mlynar, it's just a fun challenge

[tidal sedge]

Although for me I only just looked it up and got annoyed as I built my auto ignorant of it

I use originite for farming so certain gains in time can actually be worthwhile

Like SV-10, I shaved 20~ seconds off my auto after learning of the kill gates. Which adds up when you run it a lot

I'm not a whale

Just monthly card

[midnight veldt]

4-10 challenge, any tips?

I guess that stage is very RNG with the boss skill

[tidal sedge]

It can be reliable with the right strategy

[midnight veldt]

Who is the best op to borrow?

[tidal sedge]

People typically use Marksmen to snipe FN safely while using Gravel and high hp bodies like Mel to keep FN still for marksmen

[gray stone]

I think Yato just shit on her but Exusiai works

[midnight veldt]

This enough, if I borrow Exusiai?

[vital arrow]

More than enough

Pretty sure GT S2 just kills her

[gray stone]

oh lord E2 max Greythroat

[midnight veldt]

So I should just snipe her on the top lane, right?

[vital arrow]

Yes

Also use myrtle s1

[midnight veldt]

I don't have anyone better

[vital arrow]

Myrtle s2 has worse cycling if you're using her as a printer

[gray stone]

No I'm just surprised

[midnight veldt]

Crits carry when they exist

especially when S2M3

[vital arrow]

Usually people dont E2 marksmen that much

Well E2 is fine

Not maxing though

Because marksmen are generally low impact

[midnight veldt]

Why?

Guards for Phys dps?

[spark sinew]

e2 50 myrtle on s2

[vital arrow]

Yes usually guards are better

[midnight veldt]

GT didn't get her, so Surtrerd her on the second lane

[sly drift]

Ray (new op) 3rd skill is Ebenholdz wet dream

[vital arrow]

Ebenholz could never

This is the S3 that ebenholz wanted

[tidal sedge]

Looks like the Sand Beast grants 3x3 range

[vital arrow]

Yeah she practically has a priority 3x3 range

That alone makes her interesting

[tidal sedge]

I like the Sand Beast gimmick, it might be what I'd like Poz s2 to have been more like

The rest of her known kit is close to what I'd have expected from a 6* hunter.

[vital arrow]

From the preview

She looks like she can permabind on S3 for 1 enemy

[karmic glade]

Sand Beast needs to be placed within range though, so it's like at most 7 tile more range

Not like typewriter which can be placed everywhere

[vital arrow]

I think the point of the sand beast is not the range extension

But the bonus damage and target priority

[karmic glade]

And this sand beast couldn't even just stay there, s2 is suppose to be a afk skill but you still need to do summon micro, lets see if the damage is worth it

[tidal sedge]

Infinite skill doesn't necessitate afk skill

[surreal star]

jess s1 is kinda like that

and skalter s2 ig

[tidal sedge]

Poz s1 too. But it's number are kinda lacking so it's not really used

[karmic glade]

yeah, but you don't need to do those, but this s2 if you don't micro you just lose out on a lot of damage because of the bullet mechanic

[tidal sedge]

I'm curious what happens when Ray s2 activates when Sand Beast is on cd

Does it scale to the adjusted redeploy time immediately?

Frozen Monstrosity redeploy increase does such

[gray stone]

janky code type of stuff

or just instant refresh

[karmic glade]

arknight's redeployment time is stored as time passed not time left, so I would guess it would update immediately, but we would need to test that

[limpid siren]

all it takes is a 6* power budget to make an awful archetype usable

S3 E17

[spark sinew]

is the archetype even awful

they have drawbacks, sure 🤔

[limpid siren]

coldshot has no means of managing the unique ammo system, couple that with the limited range and she looks like one of the weakest 5* snipers

[tidal sedge]

For me it's less about her being a hunter and more about the sand beast gimmick

[karmic glade]

you basically needs to remove the ammo limit for this archetype to be good, like this new 6*'s skill

[limpid siren]

i'm down for the sand beast stuff if coldshot were to have something like that too

it's interesting

[south sage]

Anyone got any tips for this map?

[karmic glade]

or like have a DPH of 10k or something to have a acceptable DPS, but that would be busted

[dense compass]

more aoe

[limpid siren]

you may consider trying to cover more ground with the funny beam

[gray stone]

I mean
2 talents privileges

[limpid siren]

i remember arts damage - especially multi-target - being nice on that stage

[south sage]

I did.

Look closely

[vital arrow]

Make a square with the flux so it covers 2 lanes

Then borrow an aoe dps

[limpid siren]

i did look closely

[vital arrow]

Like

[tidal sedge]

The enemies loop around a bunch, 0 block ops can help redirect the beam while avoiding blocking the golems

[vital arrow]

Mizuki

[karmic glade]

Everyone walks through the top spot, so you don't actually need to hold 2 lane\

[south sage]

Ohh, you mean the inner circle too.

[limpid siren]

[karmic glade]

Just blaze + saria + reedic S2 is enough for me

[tidal sedge]

We only know the sand beast talent at this time though

[south sage]

That's... honestly what i fucking need. Hold on.

[limpid siren]

doesn't have to be 100% coverage

[vital arrow]

Do you have pinecone

Or like, exalter

[gray stone]

2 talents allow her to have Sandbeast and another talent buffing the damage

[tidal sedge]

5*s just get saddled with minor buff talents most times, especially these days

[limpid siren]

or your name is insider and your talent is actually just a tax

[south sage]

I do, but not build.

[vital arrow]

Shes better than skyfire

[south sage]

I'll think of some alternatives instead.

[vital arrow]

Show roster

[south sage]

Booting up game.

Hold on.

[gray stone]

A lot of lower rarities get taxed for their talent

[limpid siren]

list some

[karmic glade]

heat map of enemy count

[south sage]

Thx, i needed this.

This was much, much more helpful than #arknights

[turbid badge]

this is funny to me

[gray stone]

oh wait Mostima is also a victim of SP talent tax

[tidal sedge]

Yeah I appreciate the goofy ranges the sand beast allows

[gray stone]

😔

[tidal sedge]

But I'm a sucker for special targeting and unique ranges

[south sage]

I honestly wanna know the attack range of the ranged mechs during POO.

[tidal sedge]

and Ray is both

Hmmm

[south sage]

They confused me even during Lone Trail.

[vital arrow]

Missile mechs is like

6 tiles or something

[gray stone]

very big

[turbid badge]

i really like how she basically has two talents in one talent

[south sage]

I did count, but for some reason some blind spots exist in those 6 tiles.

[turbid badge]

cough cough phantom

[vital arrow]

Wdym blind spot

[south sage]

Is it like a square or is it like a diamond?

[gray stone]

Kal also got it

[tidal sedge]

Skill Aura ops ye. Suzu and Ptilo have their sp costs designed around their talent to have 'normal' cds

[karmic glade]

POO have increased range through tags, so it might not be accurate

[vital arrow]

Circle

[south sage]

Ohhhh.

No wonder.

[gray stone]

I don't understand how Pinecone got away with it

[vital arrow]

The only 'square' thing in arknights is ops attack range