strategy

[lapis hornet]

7 6* in 150 not even bad tho

[spark sinew]

not at all

that's more than i got in 237 rolls on surtr

[deft badger]

i would be happy with 2 new ops

[lapis hornet]

ok buddy whales

[deft badger]

that are good

[spark sinew]

to have new ops

you need to pull less

[deft badger]

not eben lol

[spark sinew]

also eben is good

your standards are too big

[deft badger]

they are not, one bag or suzu

would be worth it

lol

[sullen rover]

you cant get bag or suzu from exalt banner

theyre kernel

[spark sinew]

heh

[deft badger]

didn't even know that

...

[lapis hornet]

if you have a lot of units alr getting someone new offbanner is a super low chance anyway

[deft badger]

bro i got 2 times fartooth lol

[spark sinew]

good in base

a copy is less good in base

[lapis hornet]

honestly idr how many new units I got from offbanner last 2 years must have been like 1 or 2

probs 1

[deft badger]

i don't know what i am actually missing

that i can get as of banner

but kal reed pozy is something i don't have

will pull couple on kal surtr banner as well

[spark sinew]

absolute waste

[deft badger]

why 😄

[spark sinew]

because 25%

[deft badger]

to get kal??

[spark sinew]

and banner is absolute dog

outside of 6*

yeah kal is 25%

surtr is 25%

spooks are 50%

kal also showing her age right now

even DR just reduces true damage nowadays, so one of the main uses for her is vanishing

[deft badger]

kal reed is something i 100% wanna have

so next selector goes on them

probably reed if i don't get one till then

[spark sinew]

why kal though

if waifu or something i understand obv

[deft badger]

just to have her don't know she can be useful sometimes

[spark sinew]

selector feels a bit steep for kal in 2024

[sullen rover]

tbh i dont really use her outside is3
if the enemies has dodge then i can just schwarz poze

[deft badger]

i used the last one on skadi lol

[spark sinew]

again, i assume waifu factor

or maybe bad decisions

[deft badger]

nope i needed the module

[spark sinew]

in which case i'm here now

[spark sinew]

if you cope ah your specter has wrong module

if you're using their bis modules without coping AH your skadi has wrong one

but spalter gladiia are strong enough to have no need for skadi anyway, especially in your acc

[deft badger]

i never use her s3

i like the more dmg in doll form and extra slow

[tidal sedge]

I leaked one enemy

It was also my fault

And couldve been easily avoided

Amazing

Time to spend 6 hours again

[spark sinew]

force closed the game i hope?

[deft badger]

i mean i can m3 her s3 as well and get her the mod but i never used s3 so yeah 😄

[tidal sedge]

Ye

But thorns strat is ez for sure

[spark sinew]

dalao TheUnknown

[tidal sedge]

My myrtle was tanky enough

(e0 45)

Lv1 mightve worked too in hindsight (not that i upgraded her now)

[spark sinew]

who even tells newbies to raise myrtle/ely and also leaves them e0

they're so horrible early

and their entire reason to exist is skill levels

[tidal sedge]

I got told to do that on another acc

[spark sinew]

to use e0 myrtle?

[tidal sedge]

"Tolded" 💀

[tidal sedge]

E2

[spark sinew]

not a bad advice

[tidal sedge]

As first e2

..

[spark sinew]

flags are absolutely horrible early though

[deft badger]

my 2nd acc first thing i did e2 myrtle lol

[tidal sedge]

I do have saileach tho

Rn

Which i think myrtle still makes more dp

[deft badger]

myrtle gives more

[tidal sedge]

Ofc

I knew it

[spark sinew]

she does not

[deft badger]

sail has a nice s3 and passive

[tidal sedge]

She does

[spark sinew]

sail and ely have better version

[tidal sedge]

But its slower

More sp cost

[turbid badge]

initallitt

saileach and ely have more dp over time

myrtle just faster activation

[tidal sedge]

What?

Oh

Real?

[turbid badge]

u wanna see the chart?

[tidal sedge]

Ill use saileach then

(i have no reason not to)

[turbid badge]

if u alrd have myrtle raised

it doesnt really matter

[tidal sedge]

Both are e0 max

Doesnt matter

[deft badger]

what teta did say is what i did mean anyway..

[tidal sedge]

Extra dp may help who knows

[fast basin]

Myrtle is enough for general use most of the time

[sullen rover]

the reason why you take sail over myrtle is because you want an op that isnt deadweight after 20 secs
if you just need dp only go myrtle

[deft badger]

i could switch to sail actually time for myrtle to bench

since i bring ines with me always

[tidal sedge]

Wish i had good ops

:(

Not that i dont but

Better**

[vernal lion]

just keep grinding tho

you won't play gacha game in 1 day

[deft badger]

u are fine, at a point ur acc explodes when it comes to ops

u don't even know what to use anymore since everything works

[vernal lion]

imagine having ALL the op and you still lose

[deft badger]

watch streams lol

[vernal lion]

I only watch IS3 and IS4

[tidal sedge]

Def lol

Ive spent 200 hours on tbc so i should know

[deft badger]

spend like 3 days watching streamers doing chong event boss

best time spend in my life

[tidal sedge]

But this is just copium

[vernal lion]

Sciel did stream for 24 hrs lol

for IS4

[deft badger]

don't know who that guy is but i saw people who have like every op in the game and didn't menage to stay without leaks 30sec in the game

for hours btw not first try

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciaSRBDtaFk&ab_channel=Sciel

[spark sinew]

u official

😢

[turbid badge]

next april

( when is4 is probably out alrd )

[vernal lion]

May and April, when June is released...

[sullen rover]

june new sniper?

[deft badger]

pony is just stupid af

[spark sinew]

very interesting how he kept damaging tlk

instead of taking out the casters

i'm confused why

[spark sinew]

with yato

[vernal lion]

that Yato got every atk buff relic

truly carry this run

[deft badger]

my yato will be m9 tomorrow xD

[spark sinew]

will you ever use s1

[deft badger]

probably not xD

i do have s1m3 s2m3

doing s3 right now

[spark sinew]

hopefully you saw

[deft badger]

if we get a boss in the future that is a hp sponge

then yes

didn't see it, if u mean that u have wrote something and deleted

did have to google how to write sponge lol

[spark sinew]

it's fine, i was just trashing doing s1 first

[deft badger]

for some reason i thought s1 is good which it is if the thing u do atk doesn't have much def

and much like under 400 def xD

[turbid badge]

is basically just exu s3

[deft badger]

btw doesn't move

[spark sinew]

it's good for that but it's always the opportunity cost

[turbid badge]

34k instant s1!

[deft badger]

naga did sim it and exu still does better -.-

[spark sinew]

exu can't redeploy that fast

[deft badger]

s1 did destroy rathalos

but still that thing has to stand still if u wanna unload the full dmg

[tidal sedge]

Wtf

I lost another enemy on top

How

[deft badger]

sui is probably the best boss to play with her s1

but then s3 is there as well and sui has a big hitbox

so yeah

[spark sinew]

s1 is the only skill scaling with atkspd

but even in IS you just...ignore the atkspd shit

[deft badger]

i like the atk speed relics in IS

but they did lower the drop rate

[spark sinew]

with yato it's a bait

[deft badger]

i am sure they did xD

[spark sinew]

there are also spec exclusive relics and executor hand

still a bait

[deft badger]

anyway nvm, going to look which language i wanna learn next xD

[scarlet ledge]

balls

[deft badger]

sup schwert

[vernal lion]

@scarlet ledge how to kill Harold

[scarlet ledge]

wdym

kill him

[scarlet ledge]

its just kill him then let ur ng s3 up on phase 2 cause of snoballs nuke

ofc u need to lit furnace for damage

and be mindful on unlit furnace near ur ops or they take much more damage

[deft badger]

japanese or russian, how hard is japanese btw skip the writing part since that's to hard xD

[spark sinew]

not sure why you would learn nowadays russian because of...reasons

so just go jp

[deft badger]

because i wanna learn it anyway

am already speaking 4 languages

[peak cloak]

go for both if u want to travel in those countries or any purposes

[deft badger]

and i know one slavic language so i expect the easy thing would be to learn russian

[peak cloak]

i learnt german for works, english to travel around the world and Vietnamese to communicate with Vietnameses easier

and a bit french lol

[deft badger]

not about traveling, call it a hobby... didn't know english 2 years ago now i do time for a new one

[spark sinew]

is chinese included in those 4

[deft badger]

russian and japanese are a good option since there is a lot of stuff i can watch in dub in those two

[deft badger]

nope and i don't wanna learn chinese lol

[spark sinew]

please don't watch russian dub

[deft badger]

chinese sounds all the same to me

my wife is from serbia she thought me serbian, german is my native, learned french in school, english was a part of school as well but never was intrested in it since i consider it a stupid language with a way to easy grammar so yeah i did learn it recently xD

[spark sinew]

i heard german dubs are okay? although i did hear a lot about the same 3-4 VAs doing everything

[deft badger]

they are good, but in case u know how the actors sound in english its just awful

[tidal sedge]

Gg

[spark sinew]

easy

[peak cloak]

but it's all up to your purposes and choose a language to learn doesnt a hard thing.

may u want to learn Serbian to commicate with her parent?

i dont mind but if i get a German wife, i do have my German as a preparation. xD

[deft badger]

i know serbian already, btw i speak all 4 fluent without accent

[peak cloak]

damn

[deft badger]

sebian is the reason i came up with russian

[vernal lion]

alien event confirmed

[deft badger]

US still debating to release some sealed files so we will know soon 😄

[vernal lion]

pretty sure it's Destiny 2 event

[deft badger]

never played destiny

i am a warframe fan

[vernal lion]

and also wait for R6S rerun lol

[deft badger]

we maybe don't even get one..

what i saw on reddit

that what the people say on reddit.. hauckindu

was there a 6 star op as well?

ok nvm i am lost again, ash was the six star

[vernal lion]

I still think the 6 star should be Frost

[deft badger]

i wanna know how they got a colab with them 😄

[vernal lion]

Lowlight is a big fan of R6S

he still likes playing the game

[spark sinew]

||no masks is quite a downgrade||

[deft badger]

still one of the best shooters there is

can we get a dragonball colab? 😄

[foggy grove]

only tachanka looks so similar

[vernal lion]

well he doesn't show face

3d model and anime art are different indeed

[deft badger]

well i want this...

does someone know if they announced when they expect to have a alpha/beta test for arknights endfield?

[spark sinew]

don't we already have one

[deft badger]

don't know is there one?

saw only reports about a demo

[opal kiln]

sign ups for closed beta are out already

[deft badger]

ahh ok found it

[glass monolith]

Out of commission

[deft badger]

wasn't planning to sign up for closed its hard to get in to those
going to w8 for open

i need something to get of WoW

looking forward to see Endfield and Ghost but i have bigger hopes for ghost

[spark sinew]

go play korean MMOs

[deft badger]

nah bro, last time i did it just ended in a disaster

EU got some stupid ripped version

[spark sinew]

oh?

[deft badger]

blade and soul

EU got some changes couple months after the servers launched they kinder made it easier i left the game after that

main reason i liked the game was the pvp which they turned in to a brain afk s-

ncsoft was the EU publisher i think

btw lost ark i saw it the first time in 2015 i think it took them 5 years to launch it 😂 so yeah... (didn't even play it in the end)
i want something new, that's going to be good and release soon

and korean mmos have some kind of p2w most of the time which is a no for me
there is a reason i play wow since 2010
and EvE online for like 8 years now mostly afk since i am selling assets but i still am in the game

[limpid siren]

[deft badger]

what's shaw's problem?

[glass monolith]

First law of world someone will rat on you

[tidal sedge]

Pain

Shit weong channel

[sinful sail]

vvhat

this looks real

[deft badger]

https://gamepress.gg/arknights/event-banner-hub/operation-originium-dust-cn-event-page

[spark sinew]

it is real

[deft badger]

EN did have a rerun?>

[spark sinew]

cn didn't yet

en idt we even have "official" news

[deft badger]

ah ok

[sinful sail]

it's from 2021 tho

[deft badger]

because its a old event

[sinful sail]

oh

but the operators still exist?

[deft badger]

Ash was even before i joined the game

[latent monolith]

You can't get them anymore

but they do exist

and you can borrow them from people that have them

[deft badger]

naga was talking about a event rerun

[latent monolith]

Yeah an event rerun has been announced

but it's unknown exactly when that'll happen

[deft badger]

question is if there even will be reruns on colab events

[sinful sail]

is that even possible

[latent monolith]

According to the livestream

Apparently they annouced a banner rerun but not the stages themselves? Idk how you'd get tachanka from it then

But it could be something else

It seems like the old ops may return

[surreal star]

from what i’ve heard it was the other way around, no banner confirmation but the OD rerun is confirmed

all my information is from secondhand sources though

[crisp bolt]

the only thing the livestream announced was there being a second R6S collab and Fuze is the new operator

and also

[glass monolith]

There was no banner info, neither if it was new one or ash rerun of sort

[crisp bolt]

people are just speculating it's rerunning because there was only an announcement for Fuze and no 6*

[opal kiln]

They announced tachanka way before the other ops

so

[glass monolith]

So where is my destony collab?

[crisp bolt]

oh yeah they announced tachanka missions playable

[opal kiln]

bungie did an oopsie

china taiwan things

[spark sinew]

what is the actual "bungie imploding" story
is it that bad

[opal kiln]

I'm fully expecting it to not happen

[crisp bolt]

Destiny screwed up very bad

[spark sinew]

oh wow

ok nvm

[crisp bolt]

Bungie fired a whole ton of their staff recently due to bad sales

and that's not going into the other details

anyways we're really straying off topic here in #strategy

[spark sinew]

I'm waiting for sudden event overlap with collab on en

so i can use fuze on those civilians as a means to clear the stage

[deft badger]

who is bungie

nvm did google it and btw destiny was trash from the start 😄

[limpid siren]

[gray stone]

No way a Shaw emote

[deft badger]

sry i have 3k+ hours in warframe, so i must cringe on destiny...

[gray stone]

[deft badger]

igneus spend his day spamming shaw icon...

[spark sinew]

very specific emote

[limpid siren]

i come to talk about arknights and y'all are always bashing on about something random

[glass monolith]

Current event is shit, SSS is nerfed so nobody cares, IS3 moved in parallel chatmension, CN having nothing of value going on

[limpid siren]

i don't care

[glass monolith]

Give us Arknight topic or F off

[gray stone]

idk just revisit stages

Minus F bomb

[limpid siren]

<@&586570970345635868>

[glass monolith]

You talked 0 about arknight, only RAT on this chat

[deft badger]

are u for real dude

[foggy grove]

hi ignus
if i ever decide to e2 og exe which matery is better?

[limpid siren]

S1

[deft badger]

did he really just ping the mods

[gray stone]

New Arknights topic: make a 6 star tier list

[deft badger]

go call mom and complain how the internet was mean to day

[cyan gorge]

What did I just wander in on

[spark sinew]

s2 fell off a cliff since it's kinda shit without buffs

[quick pecan]

why are help and strategy on fire

[gray stone]

Normal help category things
#help has a shit ton of low quality baits recently

[spark sinew]

and that sp cost is horrendous

[quick pecan]

both of these chats about to be braziled

[gray stone]

Feeling bored
Making a new alt instead of running IS3

[vernal lion]

oh so you need to press Esc to pause deploy

[quick pecan]

salmon alt #19364982 (real and factual)

[gray stone]

What should I do with the alt

My 5 star one got Brazilled

[spark sinew]

do 351

[gray stone]

Turns out I had it binded with Twitter

[quick pecan]

damn they cooked it

also speaking of executor

i need to e2 both versions of him

focused too much on insider

[foggy grove]

i just brought two of them for trust farming

[spark sinew]

why cope with sniper

[foggy grove]

and i thought it's prolly not a bad idea to e2 the og

[quick pecan]

bc i play 5* knights

[spark sinew]

idt i seen him even in male ops

[spark sinew]

do even 5* players run him

[quick pecan]

i play 5* knights until the stage gives me a headache and i decide rarity abuse is faster

[limpid siren]

doesn't really matter unless you chase records

you can make a lot of weird teams work

i ran like double fortress, double mystic teams with other weirdos in there

[quick pecan]

also yeah

no one is doing 5* knights to be optimal lol

it’s why it’s a niche

[gray stone]

5 star isn't even a real category on Arkrec

[limpid siren]

it is

[cosmic thicket]

does welfare use insider

[limpid siren]

it's split up a bit

[gray stone]

Slash j

[limpid siren]

welfare would probably enjoy insider yea

decent unit

[limpid siren]

it's surprising how many stages don't have any entries for 5* teams tbh

[gray stone]

Just 5 star general isn't submitted much
As you said it's split into many categories

[limpid siren]

most of the 5* players i know don't really care about records either

[gray stone]

Niche uses whatever they got their hands on

[latent anvil]

did someone say 351

[gray stone]

No WGZ go away

[latent anvil]

[quick pecan]

yes it was me

i saïd 351

[gray stone]

Igneus, is it recommended for a new 5 star account to roll on Kernel

Since most of the good shit are from there

[spark sinew]

no one new

[limpid siren]

you probably have to do a bit of rolling there

[latent anvil]

heres a guide for you

[limpid siren]

but you can probably delay it

and try to wait for shoperators

[latent anvil]

crap @quick pecan wrong one here

[gray stone]

Kernel locating to hunt for cool stuff

[latent anvil]

[limpid siren]

dh record restore soon right?

[gray stone]

Yes

[limpid siren]

free dps

[gray stone]

[latent anvil]

good for base

[gray stone]

Need Sham

[limpid siren]

bibeak good lane dps too

also free

[latent anvil]

selector sham

[spark sinew]

shamare is really good anyway

[latent anvil]

omg instant sham teq bibeak that is so op

first e2 proviso

and then those 3

new infinite lmd hack

[quick pecan]

missing half of these units would not feel good as a 5* knights player

[gray stone]

First E2 Proviso tech

[limpid siren]

tbh

[gray stone]

Hung bbgurl

[quick pecan]

oh not pictured: elysium shamare ptilopsis noir corne

[limpid siren]

lapp, silence from tickets
bibeak from cc
bison, insider, teq, etc from welfares
amiya lol

could be a lot worse to start with

[quick pecan]

yeah tbh

[gray stone]

Need Rockrcok fast

[quick pecan]

ppl sleep on bibeak

i haven’t raised her yet

but i 100% know her potential

[gray stone]

Nah

They shill her

For the wrong reasons

[spark sinew]

bibeak is very hyped

[quick pecan]

i’m talking from a damage perspective

[gray stone]

Bibeak S2

[quick pecan]

from a utility perspective i know they shill her

[gray stone]

S1 truthers

[quick pecan]

real and factual

bibeak’s arts hit on s1 has lord range

for reasons

[gray stone]

Wait

DV rerun soon right?

Early Grey alt would be fun

[limpid siren]

💪

[gray stone]

and Czerny/Hibialter from LE

[spark sinew]

oh wait on en

i thought you started on cn for some reason

[latent anvil]

there's a reason why qiubai s1m3 is so op

[spark sinew]

"some reason"

[latent anvil]

[gray stone]

I already have an account there
And I won't start on FC rerun out of all events

[spark sinew]

why not

[limpid siren]

what's all this stuff

[opal kiln]

devices

they have passive and active buffs

[limpid siren]

i can see why you're a famous content creator

[opal kiln]

(I barely played sss since rework so I'm somewhat yapping)

[latent anvil]

clevershadow pro

SSS sucks

[opal kiln]

I only tried energy perturbation amplifier from those

it's kinda sick

[spark sinew]

it sucks a lot

[opal kiln]

it's the only one I tried so it's the best one I tried

[spark sinew]

but ig you can cope suzu/gnosis carry

[opal kiln]

[limpid siren]

sounds pretty good to me tbh

[opal kiln]

I didn't even finish either of the current towers

u can kinda abandon sss after a while which is what I did

[limpid siren]

i need more mod3 mats finally

i haven't played sss since it first dropped

[opal kiln]

yea events give quite a bit too

[latent anvil]

I haven't missed it

[limpid siren]

which tower sucks less

[spark sinew]

not mama johns one

idr the name

[cosmic thicket]

raythean is easier

[opal kiln]

the top left one

other one has poison haze

cringe

[cosmic thicket]

you run 2 aoe medic and u win

[limpid siren]

i have to run medics no matter what lol

[opal kiln]

then bottom one

u can tell idk names

[spark sinew]

your yato is kinda weak

[quick pecan]

i have gotten

three greyy alter off banners

after getting one copy after dorothy on her original run

[latent anvil]

Poison one is terrible

[quick pecan]

we flex the max greyy alter atk 🫡

[latent anvil]

Do the rush one, much easier

[cosmic thicket]

nah idk what ur saying

poison is piss easy

[quick pecan]

also i want hibiscus alter so bad

[cosmic thicket]

u literally run 2 aoe medic and hardmull for one early every stage

[foggy grove]

poison is just aoe medic

[spark sinew]

rush one is hellish
probably way worse for 5*

[quick pecan]

but don’t want to mess up my pity on standard rn

[spark sinew]

since idk if they can do good setup fast even

[cosmic thicket]

ask arkhy i think he did it earlier

[vernal lion]

but I'm coping

[limpid siren]

damn 20 slots is so nice

[spark sinew]

s2/s3 is usually still stronger on yato because of enemies being fairly high def i think

[latent anvil]

Both are easy if I'm looking at my screen

But I usually don't do that

[spark sinew]

but yeah she doesn't use pasta either on s2/s3

[gray stone]

My Yato doesn't have skill

[spark sinew]

i heard it's too slow

[next cradle]

Advice for stage 8 of event? Ops are below:

[spark sinew]

yours has 30% tp

[cosmic thicket]

the most braindead way is to put defenders in front of every masonry and make sure the civilians don't fall into any holes
of course kill the enemies

[vernal lion]

but I'm using Yato as a laneholder right now

[spark sinew]

understandable, have a good day

[vernal lion]

so good lmao

[limpid siren]

defending the three marked tiles with blockers is like 90% of the stage
cover the blockers with some healers and add a bit of dps

avoid slowing the boss down too, as that can cause the civilians to get hit by more rocks than they should

[gray stone]

Ines do a little trolling

[limpid siren]

oh, there's also the medal quest to end the stage with every hole boarded

watch for the rocks to stop falling on the left and fill them in after

or use like a trapper to cover planks

anything deployed on planks prevents them from taking damage

trapper mines count

[vernal lion]

HOLY SHIT

Yato 250 aspd

[craggy turret]

H10-1? Rather sure the only ops that deal true damage here are Amiya and ig pozy cuz she ignores dodge, but another issue is the bottom lane, cuz my mudmud doesn't have masteries yet

[foggy grove]

Mud is prolly fine if you remove funni car with yato

Or texas

[craggy turret]

What about the man himself?

[ancient hearth]

Schwarz or Pozy with their anti dodge modules, or Kal on S3

[foggy grove]

Shoot him with poze

Or you can let cannon hit him and do quick burst

[ancient hearth]

That usually needs something like hoshiguma and 2 or more healers on her

[craggy turret]

I have that

What about ling + suzu?

[ancient hearth]

Idk

[craggy turret]

What's the obsession with cars? We've had one every other event since like ideal city

[foggy grove]

[craggy turret]

Also

Wouldn't penance be better for the bottom lane?

Since she can farm?

[foggy grove]

Either works

[craggy turret]

Alr

Thank you

[crisp bolt]

no Aak module

[glass monolith]

Someone: says car
Me:

[unborn wind]

Might someone be able to help me with HE-6? I can't 3* it. I'm mostly trying to follow KyoStinV's guide but I don't have Orchid (or any low cost arts damage built) and I can't keep the bottom statue alive long enough to prevent the civilians from dying of panic later

[spark sinew]

does kyo use myrtle?

[unborn wind]

Yeah

[spark sinew]

it's a very weird thing to borrow, hmm

[unborn wind]

Myrtle and Scavenger

[spark sinew]

don't borrow myrtle either way

[unborn wind]

I've tried Ines

[glass monolith]

It is more weird to have S2 Myrtle friend

[fast basin]

borrow a mountain or smth

he's cheap to deploy

[spark sinew]

you want to borrow something to carry you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkgKDmUI79Q
E: hi ecko

omg i just saw

holy

that's one way to clear it

[spark sinew]

i'm unfortunately not really familiar with the stage to suggest a borrow, but it's not myrtle
maybe la pluma/executor to hold right side?
or something to deal with the boss, like kal

[spark sinew]

i think fang + courier should be more than enough in vanguards

[unborn wind]

So I need someone to kill the enemies on the right fast enough so the statue doesn't break

[glass monolith]

Maxed steward due focus on highest def was killing in video linked above

[vocal leaf]

try borrow kaltsit and spawn camp with monster, fortuna cant kill him

oh you dont have an e2 in your team tho

[unborn wind]

To expensive

[vocal leaf]

yeah you need at least 1 e2 to borrow e2 units

but monster should survive anyway

[spark sinew]

if they had e2 i would've linked ling clear

[unborn wind]

Ah well it looks like I need Steward specifically since he sends to prioritize the enemy killing the statue?

Also still really struggling for DP

[foggy grove]

Stew prio heavy def

[unborn wind]

yeah this guy. that guy's the problem

i've tried dropping in matoimaru but she doesn't kill him fast enough

[lost summit]

Oh yeah that guy sucks

[unborn wind]

aight welp can't 3* it after like 20 tries i'm gonna see if i'm able to clear he7 at all

[glass monolith]

Ahahahaha

Fuck He-7

[graceful bear]

For low-ascension IS3 (I'm too lazy to do 8+) what's the best starting comp now that expansion 2 is out?
I keep hearing that a sniper is needed at the start because of the Dublinn floaters

Also that Schwarz starts are good

[spark sinew]

the second one feels like a certain person talking

how low are we talking btw

[graceful bear]

Like, 7 and below

[spark sinew]

on 0 you can use anything that hits air and it's fine

[unborn wind]

then i guess i'm looking up vids to see the rest of the story

[vernal lion]

Pozy is just busted for F1

[graceful bear]

Oh and do I need Nightingale for Izumik? (He murdered me)

[unborn wind]

maybe i just didn't farm efficiently or tried to build too many units

[spark sinew]

she helps, if you can't block him from feeding

[graceful bear]

Is there a general strat to block him from feeding other than "deploy Texalter and Yalter repeatedly"

[spark sinew]

that's actually a bad strat

you just...block 3 lanes

and yeah, drop someone on jellies in the middle

because they spawn out of nowhere

[graceful bear]

oh so I need to actually block and also need Determination

[vernal lion]

tbh the best for middle is Degen and she's still not out yet

[spark sinew]

you don't need determination at all

defenders still block 2

which is enough

[graceful bear]

So, Mudrock and Penance?

[spark sinew]

Vigil defenders block 4

they work, yeah

something like heavy damage (chongyue) works

aoe works as well

but the last two just kill the jellies without letting them transform usually

[vernal lion]

bottom left is the most harsh lane

dude punchs hard af

[graceful bear]

Yeah the brawlers get additional ATK in this stage

I think you basically need a big slab of DEF there or else lol, lmao even

so the Horn ticket is now a Mudrock ticket

[spark sinew]

i like penance more
but she does need to press skill

and at e1 it's probably mud being better

[graceful bear]

oh right both are DEF recovery for their clearing skills

hmm

[vernal lion]

yea it's 800 atk

[graceful bear]

Mud spins faster with the brawlers though while Penance has SP lockout

[vernal lion]

so basically 2000 atk per sec

[spark sinew]

damn, so low

you can use penance on the top right

she struggles to not leak later with -1block but it's fine

[vernal lion]

Elite Brawler only has 380 atk normally tho

so they are pretty much a threat here

[spark sinew]

those early enemy stats are so funny to read now

because of how hard the typical enemy is nowadays

[graceful bear]

tbf
No enemy has given me as much trouble as Ch 5 fat Arts drones

fuck those things

[vocal leaf]

wait to see ch11 cars and drones

[lapis hornet]

I barely remember anything past ch8

ig 10 was annoying

what was 11

[turbid badge]

10 was manfred 11 was sk 12 was boy woth a whole village inside

[lapis hornet]

I remember steam knight and the boss in 12 but I legit don't remember anything else from 11

12 there's the dp cap and the annoying civies clogging your blocks I remember that

[turbid badge]

rotchasers , art cannon go pewpewpewpew , flying spikeballs

trees

[lapis hornet]

oh

was 11 the one where enemies left a dot on the ground when they die

I remember this thing being more annoying than anything else in the chapter lol

(boss included)

[glass monolith]

Chapter 11 was tree uprooting and beating shit out of you

[turbid badge]

yea

[lapis hornet]

tree doesn't ring any bell it's crazy, think they were missile launchers now that you mention them

[turbid badge]

[lapis hornet]

man that stuff was too forgettable

honestly I don't rly remember any of the grunts in ch12 either

ig you remember stuff you had trouble with

[turbid badge]

do you really not remember

[cosmic thicket]

what an op new player

[turbid badge]

2nd H stage has like 9 trees

[spark sinew]

new players are built differently nowadays

[turbid badge]

cake so new

[lapis hornet]

I just learned from the brightest minds here

[spark sinew]

everyone here is new

except teta ig

[turbid badge]

im new

i join dec 15

[lapis hornet]

khold fersangu khant

wait who else was ex tier

[turbid badge]

so much delted accounts

[lost summit]

Honestly ch 10 was far more annoying than 11 or 12

[spark sinew]

oh khold is?
although i'm actually new

so idk old residents

[lost summit]

stupid ass cannon from heaven

[lapis hornet]

ya 10 was annoying

h10-1 took me so many tries it's insane lol

[lost summit]

It was harder to brute force it

[quick pecan]

ch 10 is easy if you know how to use the cannon to your advantage

12 kinda annoying with dp cap but it’s still mostly whatever

[lapis hornet]

increasing dp cap was easy enough tho

[lost summit]

Sure but sometimes it didnt go after the right operator and it was a pain to manage my team with only like 2 3 blocks since I had to rule out half my characters

[lapis hornet]

most of the later stages had that destructible thing that gave you +5 no?

[quick pecan]

i mean yeah but some of them also open more lanes for enemies

[lost summit]

Lmao my 12-20 clear starts with a texas for DP gen then just popping texalter to kill the boxes

[quick pecan]

i mean the targetting follows deploy order + block count not too hard

[vernal lion]

H12-3: actually, no

[lost summit]

Yes but annoying nonetheless

[lapis hornet]

nah like

[cosmic thicket]

it was just H12-1 and H12-4

[lapis hornet]

h10-1 had 3 lanes right, and the cannon would always go to someone you don't want to

like if you dont follow someone else's clear and try it yourself it was kinda nuts idk what it was about that stage lmao

also manfred himself was annoying cause you always gotta correct your timing so the cannon hits him at the right time

and ofc every time you tried something slightly different the timing would change drastically

[vernal lion]

Manfred is just hps check

[lapis hornet]

I'm mostly thinking of cc10 tbh

h10-3 didn't take me too long esp compared to h10-1 smh

[quick pecan]

most chapter gimmicks aren’t giving you free 3k true damage to enemies

it’s a chapter that actively helps damage floor for clears

[vernal lion]

they should make cc with Danmazti tho

[quick pecan]

so i see it as a win

[lapis hornet]

man imagine the stall tho

esp with the new po hp bloat they're doing

12h clear

[turbid badge]

oh god

eyja alter

everywhere in that stall

[turbid badge]

just like ines in cc1

[vernal lion]

15 civis, so it's +30 dp cap

[quick pecan]

everyone must wait their turn to get into disneyland

[vernal lion]

kinda like chap 12 tho

[lost summit]

time to take 8 defenders

[lapis hornet]

ch12 was okay

[quick pecan]

having an op with 21dp at stage start that you wanted to deploy early felt very cringe ngl

but not the worst i guess

[turbid badge]

theres a fix

[lapis hornet]

not a huge fan of the boss tho feel like they just made him artificially sticky by giving him a billion stages

[turbid badge]

guess what

[quick pecan]

if u say

[turbid badge]

muelseye and saileach talent!

[quick pecan]

texas

oh

💀

[turbid badge]

get a early saria

[vernal lion]

lore boss

[graceful bear]

Ch 10 is Mudrock check

[lapis hornet]

think I used saria blaze hoshi almost every stage lol so couldn't have been too bad

[quick pecan]

i got a rockrock pot like in the middle of ch 12 release

[graceful bear]

Like how Ch 4 punishes you for not having Lappy

[quick pecan]

so she was 20dp

[lapis hornet]

hey thorns is 20dp right, man's cracked alr

[turbid badge]

pog

[vernal lion]

Humus for chap 10 is kinda funny tho

[turbid badge]

how much ho is maxed exe

hp

w mod

[quick pecan]

he gets

no hp

from mod

[turbid badge]

[quick pecan]

[spark sinew]

2491

[turbid badge]

2491

[quick pecan]

humus survives londinium cannon

therefore humus > executor alter

[turbid badge]

does exe s2 dodge cannon

ik it can dodge the originum alters

[quick pecan]

teta that’s just worse flametail rng

on multiple cannon hits

[lapis hornet]

hoshi can dodge cannon iirc no

if exe works the same should be able to as well

[quick pecan]

isnt hoshi resist

that’s different

actually it’s true damage

wouldn’t it just ignore dodge

[lapis hornet]

bro

what dmg do you think altars do

[quick pecan]

oh wait

i forgot alter mention

so our true damage ignores dodge but the enemies true damage doesnt

[lapis hornet]

no

[quick pecan]

i’m so confused now

[lapis hornet]

typicall dodge works vs art and phys

think the skills/passives always mention that

hoshi was the only one that was different despite her passive's description being misleading before they fixed it

she just had a chance to "resist" any incoming dmg

or smthing like that

there's some technicality cause some ppl say some type of dmg including altar isn't true but untyped or smth smth I haven't really paid attention to this stuff in a while lol

[quick pecan]

tldr hypergryph wording is cringe

we been knew

[turbid badge]

exealters dodge is wierd

[quick pecan]

i hate this game bro

[gleaming lodge]

Yes Hoshi can resist the cannon's true damage

[lapis hornet]

yeah but exe's dodge doesn't mention any typing

[gleaming lodge]

Dodge should mention the attack type yeah

[lapis hornet]

and if he can resist altar then I just assume it's the same mechanics but worded/translated different

[gleaming lodge]

But it's probably just physical for a reaper

[quick pecan]

well this is where it gets more cringe

bc it mentions [enemy’s melee attack]

[lapis hornet]

(mind idk if he actually dodges true I just took what the other guy said at face value lol)

[vernal lion]

ugh you need to read it correctly tho

[glass monolith]

Hoshi is so gigachad she can literally parry true damage long range ballistic weapon

[lapis hornet]

yeah but what's melee

[turbid badge]

just go to prts ffs

[vernal lion]

melee attack?

[glass monolith]

Melee enemy attack is when your ass blocks them and they trying to kill you

Can't get easier than this

[gleaming lodge]

No clue
But there is one thing I know for sure and it's that dockworkers deal ranged damage

[lapis hornet]

ya melee/range is just what hg says it is lol

[gleaming lodge]

You forgot we are talking about hypergryph

[lapis hornet]

like some ranged skills isn't actually tagged ranged and vice versa

[gleaming lodge]

Melee damage should be damage dealt by a "melee enemy"

[lapis hornet]

it doesn't actually say can dodge enemies he blocks

[glass monolith]

I know we talk about hypergryph who made chapter 12 boss be "melee" but have "ranged skill" so you can't fucking nuke with with Firewatch multiplier against Ranged

[gleaming lodge]

I wouldn't be surprised if the splash from mortar is considered melee, for example

[vernal lion]

melee attack is only when your op blocking enemy

[gleaming lodge]

Ok

Let's just remember that Lee's "when taking damage from an enemy inside (or outside ? Idr) his range" is completely f*cked

[glass monolith]

Take map with no restriction on deploy. Have your sniper block enemy with their ass. Your sniper don't attack enemy because they are one tile behind them and ranged ops don't come with melee attack

[lapis hornet]

I mean

the only way is to just try it

[gleaming lodge]

Yes
That's mainly because attack range is a square (or many squares) but blocking hitbox is a circle

[vernal lion]

yea try this too

[gleaming lodge]

I deleted the game 💀

[lapis hornet]

wtf

all the old timers quitting smh

did you get a gf or smth

[glass monolith]

This shit is relevant like.... Wait was it even relevant in entire DH event?

[vernal lion]

yes

[glass monolith]

Oh right this one funny map in S

where you have to deal with like 10 of them rushing box

[gleaming lodge]

I would love to
But sadly it's mainly because of university (Quantum mechanics is got me good)
And this game is getting boring

[lapis hornet]

sadge

[turbid badge]

sadge

[gleaming lodge]

All the defenders have big booba and 4k ATK now
This isn't what I signed up for

[lapis hornet]

are tums and zawa still at it

[vernal lion]

until you know they can be silenced

[glass monolith]

YOU SON OF THE

WHERE YOU WAS ON DH RERUN?

[gleaming lodge]

Tums yes
Zawa I don't really know, I think he still contributes quite a bit

[lapis hornet]

ah kk

[turbid badge]

oh guard chips are open today

i can try l8tr

[gleaming lodge]

https://youtu.be/PUdW1GPwajQ?si=LLSpN_iI6Hp7rsa3

There is this new fella as well in the defknights group

Quite a monstrous player if you ask me
Bro picked up the niche and simply did that

The edited version is on LD YouTube, hold on

[lapis hornet]

nice lol ld still going I see

[gleaming lodge]

https://youtu.be/nzEsrO5hWjc?si=UnlZXyNqqjAPPMBv

EN defknights is definitely going and it's going strong

I passed the torch over to Tums quite a while ago honestly
Probably like CC#6 Wild Scales

[lapis hornet]

(more innocent peps losing their minds and their hair smh)

[gleaming lodge]

Mainly because he was far better than me

[lapis hornet]

man you were just losing touch with ak honestly

I barely saw you play

[gleaming lodge]

(tbh I never did my homework for CC, I only came up with my own stuff, and of course I couldn't catch on)

[gleaming lodge]

I played daily maps for quite a bit, but yeah

I did put a good 200h on IS#3 trying to get a knight ending

It never worked

But yeah apart from that I didn't play a lot since Wild Scales

[lapis hornet]

rip

lol first thing I'm thinking watching this clear is, sad they didn't use vulcan

[gleaming lodge]

Whatever, I had a good time with this game

Yeah Vulcan is not competitive anymore
And her module didn't change that...

Which is sad because I love her

[lapis hornet]

at least hung's still gaming

[gleaming lodge]

Anyways
Gotta go
Have a good one Cake

[lapis hornet]

see ya

[vernal lion]

tbh older cc maps were fun

[lapis hornet]

cc12 was okay

what was the max btw, was it 34?

[vernal lion]

cc6 was really interesting to play

[turbid badge]

10% chance cuz sl3

now cannon moght have to bring sil alter

[spark sinew]

teta pro

is your exalter mod3

[turbid badge]

no

[spark sinew]

so that's why you have sl3

wow, washed up

[turbid badge]

e1 lvl 17!

[glass monolith]

I started in DH so CC6 was my first, somehow scuffed all medals (no trim because didn't knew those exist) blind with power of friendship and this p2 Chalter game gave me

[vernal lion]

I'm pretty sure he can't dodge the ch10 cannon

[turbid badge]

yeah understandu

able

[lost summit]

This is just depressing

[vernal lion]

but he can dodge the altar, Idk if the altar deals melee attack?

[spark sinew]

he basically can dodge anything that isn't a "projectile"

from what i see on prts

so just some code jank

[vernal lion]

so the cannon just shoots a big bullet of big aoe dmg, like those mortar dudes

[glass monolith]

Give me good memories - I didn't know top right box goes bottom left because i La Pluma spawncamped that annihilation that hard

[lost summit]

Hahaha

This run was smooth until boss came and I ran out of DP like an idiot

Gonna try again but Gavialter instead of exec so she can get healed

[glass monolith]

I had some ridicilous spawn camp set for boss

Boss was super not fun in event for me

[turbid badge]

i should e2 sora soon

i have both skins

[lost summit]

I e2'ed her

[turbid badge]

Minus do u ever use her s1?

[lost summit]

then never used her again lmao

[glass monolith]

Didn't, yet

She was not part of sleeping Karleen for 22 hours after all

[vernal lion]

use her s1 with Skalter s3, it's funny lol

[glass monolith]

Oh right she regen better on S1

[lost summit]

use both with mudrock

[spark sinew]

s1 is a bit iffy with mud

[lost summit]

Infinite healingmud

[spark sinew]

isn't that just sleep

[glass monolith]

This was my "plan" for anni 13, not sure if i can find image of how it actually went

[lost summit]

Whichever is the healing boost

[lost summit]

Ah that would probably work

I REALLY need to level my pluma

only E1 55

[spark sinew]

wtf she has healing boost?

[lost summit]

The trait multiplier or whatever>

[glass monolith]

#strategy message Ah yes. it went EXACTLY as your run in the end

[turbid badge]

wtf 2022

[glass monolith]

I searched me saying anni 13 with image, found my screen above, so i just did search "my images after that date" and so happens i didn't spam alot of offtopic shit at that time

After auto was added i quit doing that so i have no way to track down most of my annihilation set ups

[lost summit]

Wait I just realized something funny

my E2 l1 Ptilo heals for about 540 per heal, while my E2 60 Kaltsit heals for about 457 🤔

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah Kal's healing is huh... Bad

But her other stuff is what makes her good

[glass monolith]

You sure you didn't do something sus. Ptilo not suppose to heal for big number alone

Let me check

[gleaming lodge]

With S1, 540 isn't crazy

Not sure why you would use S1 though

[vernal lion]

well Kal just cares about her pet and herself

[lost summit]

Got em

[glass monolith]

E2 50 module(+30) trust (+55) p4 (+21) for 416 ATK, +70% from S1L7 but like who and why would pick it

[lost summit]

Any way to just brute force Mangragora?

[glass monolith]

She has damage reduction

Solution to damage reduction is more damage

[gleaming lodge]

Or pillar

[glass monolith]

But it would take waiting for her to walk to pillar

[lost summit]

So if I just stack Chalter + Poze + Surtr + Mlynar I win?

[glass monolith]

Phase 2 fly if you brute force pass mechinics

[lost summit]

Hence Chalter and Poze?

And Elysium would help too right

[glass monolith]

Elysium here both because she has some DEF and RES behind that reduction. Also Kroos alter S2 attack speed boiiii

#strategy message found video for phase 2 of Mandra (Phase 1 don't fly so as long as you can tank her death beam you don't care.)
Easy strat is achieve something which stall her phase 1 infinitely (High HP, good medics), kill it through damage reduction, then proceed to drop each single pillar on phase 2 + finish her off with some damage because she live with like 4k hp after all pillars

Death beam is like 700 Arts per second for 7 seconds, which also apply like -50 attack speed so Nearl will die in S1 animaaaaaaaaation

[vernal lion]

I should try Aak s3 Yato s1 on Mandra

[tropic valve]

oh I forgot ASPD also affects Nearl animation speed

lmao

[spark sinew]

....

i just realized i never dropped that pillar

i always defended bottom

[glass monolith]

I did that because i seen someone else do it that way

[spark sinew]

reminds me about discovering 2 tiles in IS2

a year after it ended

Sculptor and the Statue map

[limpid siren]

i think a lot of people missed those

[glass monolith]

(Completely unaware what tiles being refered to)

[vernal lion]

wait a second

she can only left 10 of it on the field

good to know

[glass monolith]

Are you sure you didn't just run out of meat

[vernal lion]

yea lol

I bait every her laser attack

[spark sinew]

is there limit in H stage though

[vernal lion]

I think there is limit

I thought it should work like FN black ice

[little holly]

[spark sinew]

so weird there's a limit

[limpid siren]

probably these two, below the pillars on sculptor and statue from is2

lets you knock the pillars up to create a one tile chokepoint

and/or damage the gargoyles

[vernal lion]

Thorns and a frd op are enough for this stage

[limpid siren]

Wowee

[tidal sedge]

I hated how hard mode made pillars fail to instant kill gargs

[tropic valve]

but it's close

dropping an Orchid will do enough damage to make sure pillar kills

[graceful bear]

Only node forward is Out of Control Emergency Op
FML

[tropic valve]

surely you drafted 4 Marksmen in prepartion

[turbid badge]

waow flashbak

[vocal leaf]

it’s very similar to talulah map

[jovial nest]

TfN maps will most likely look similar in layout. Tilesets will be mostly the difference.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah hp relic made it bulky, need to dmg ground form first before pillaring for instakill usually ppl just unga bunga tho

[tidal sedge]

Is there a cool way to trust farm he7 by making enemies jumped to their death

[mental comet]

Any tips on how to beat Anni 5? Do I need Lappland there?

My roster is kinda stacked so I might just brute force it but Im hesitant to do so

[foggy grove]

spiders frozen you then followed by cleaver

you can just lappland/kill them with horn or something

else usual bruteforce

[jovial nest]

just go full power

it's not like you need it to auto

hell, borrow an operator for maximum mercilessness

[graceful bear]

How the frick do I do Izumik without leaking

[polar crane]

yato

[graceful bear]

I had Texalter and there were too many asshats crowding into the bottom right lane, and I had to devote defenses to left side to keep Mizuki from voring too much of the jellyfish

[jovial nest]

We talking d15?

[cosmic thicket]

i highrolled into determination + old fan so i just took a full squad of good ops

[jovial nest]

yeah thats the thing usually for Izumik, Isharmla, and Highmore

you can go for just the usual strats

with Highmore just being a lot easier with Horn and Isharmla a lot easier with Poze

and then there's TLK ending's abomination of a requirement. Babysitting and how to deal with him

Although same thing can be said for how damaging Izumik is unless you proactively spawncamp lanes against Izumik

[tropic valve]

you mean W Hand of Pulverization isn't part of your usual strats for Highmorb?