strategy

[dark violet]

let em actually play the game

[deft badger]

texas is still playing, u just spam her all over the map 😄

and feel strong when u are doing

[dark violet]

still better than mlynar I guess

[deft badger]

my kind of guy 😄

f- mlynar 🚮

30sec and someone is going to cringe in to the channel with mlynar is gooodddd!!

[foggy grove]

f-texas 🚮

[dark violet]

I straight up made a mlynar ban rule and never will use him in missions

[deft badger]

u are a bit late lol

[dark violet]

(I don't have him)

[foggy grove]

i don't use both

[dark violet]

taxes was too useful for IS3 to not use, but otherwise I don't really botheer

I prefer bulkier ops

or more fun

[foggy grove]

understandable

my past self thought 2 frd would be fun

it's just boring

[dark violet]

ah, and for RA, because she's a fantastic gatherer

for main content I just go for AH, some kaz gang and dorothy

[deft badger]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-sword-xd-gif-25215163

[dark violet]

all the wood

[turbid badge]

executor should be fantastic in RA

aoe op

[foggy grove]

ambusher also op

[turbid badge]

yea

mizuki

[dark violet]

the range increases?

[foggy grove]

[turbid badge]

ethan

[foggy grove]

true aoe

[turbid badge]

LIN

[dark violet]

once again dorothy is godly for RA

she's an amazing hunter, scout, gatherer, fighter

[turbid badge]

[jovial nest]

how

for materials, she can't bomb trees or ores

for hunting there's a lot of animals that barely move

but she will be great in hunting the only animals that matter

since those only run away

scout....yeah.

her S3 does sound amazing for wave destruction

[karmic glade]

big range from s3 mines

[jovial nest]

but there are times where they're so clumped up

that it's almost impossible to lay down mines in a meaningful way

unless you only lay them down before they clump up

lay it down on the very front of the wave

[novel pivot]

tier 2 wall block 7* op

[tidal sedge]

3*s are so awful this event

[jovial nest]

3* are usually just filler if you're lacking in something. But if you're going for low rarities for this event

good luck

[turbid badge]

the hammer guys hit hard

purple

[lost summit]

Mlynar is amazing! If you want the game to be so easy it's boring

[cyan gorge]

Imagine building Mlynar

[foggy grove]

build mlynar for base

you can lax your rotation

[turbid badge]

i e2 him

hes a uhh

good taunt source

[karmic glade]

Imagine building 6*

[lethal dragon]

Imagine playing the game

What are you all doing here

[latent anvil]

omg its yuu senpai

[torpid depot]

I have a couple IS3 questions. When doing a Deep Exploration, is there any point continuing the run once the goals are met?

[cyan gorge]

Not really

[tidal sedge]

Only for fun really

[torpid depot]

Ok. Thanks.

[somber falcon]

You can unlock next ending if you haven't ig

[torpid depot]

How do I unlock different endings?

I’m at level 100, but still only 1 ending.

[somber falcon]

Just complete each one by the order

1 unlocks 2 and so on

[torpid depot]

Ok

[crystal cargo]

How much more healers do I need

For the surtr hospital

[meager thistle]

Obv more

On a real note tho i usually see silence in those kind of comps

[lethal dragon]

No skalter either

[somber falcon]

if die then medic +1

[crystal cargo]

I don’t have many raised medics

[meager thistle]

Just make all slot but one a medic then you can just surtur it def dont need anything to hit the flying enemies

What are lvls and skill masteries because honestly aside from skalter and nothing to hit the later flying enemies you should be out healing

Because i see eyla and i dont kknow if she is enough for all the stuff thrown your way

[karmic glade]

You mostly need skalter

[crystal cargo]

Uhh I don’t think I can keep surtr alive

[meager thistle]

I didnt actually mean you to make the whole squad medics lol

[karmic glade]

Did you build Gavial? Gavial S1 is great for surtr hospital

[crystal cargo]

New Strat

[meager thistle]

It wont get you all the way through but i think halfway is when flying enemies emerge so unless you plan on having texas knockem out you can at least do a good portion of it

[crystal cargo]

Nope surtr died

I’m just gonna do it normally

[meager thistle]

rip

from what i have seen from other clears for surtur s1 skillis like warfarins where they heal after a threshoold is reached are the way to go

[karmic glade]

if you borrow a skalter you can probably do it

[meager thistle]

or take the easy way out and watch Dr.Leons guide he did with miya,cliffheart and 4 stars with a flex spot and free support unit

[crystal cargo]

I don’t have surtr so I’m borrowing her

Or I was borrowing her

I basically have to hold one lane so it shouldn’t be hard

[karmic glade]

oh

[meager thistle]

until the fireballs and mandragora

[ornate pond]

i wonder if u can just stick an exalt there and put a defender behind him

since iirc that stage has a steady flow of enemies

so even with fireball dmg he can prob heal enough

[meager thistle]

Maybe i know la plume does a pretty good job of holding it when i cleared so he would prob do better

[livid delta]

Doesn't thorns just basically clear most of the enemies + boss

[ornate pond]

ew thorns usage probably yea

[meager thistle]

Idk he can hold bottom lane pretty well but he gets overwhelmed fairly quick i thought

[livid delta]

Wdym ew thorns
He was one of the most picked ops before ch12 for a reason

He's still strong in old content where his obvious disadvantages don't matter

[ornate pond]

qiubai supremacy but yea thorns does really well on that stage

[tidal sedge]

Now that Thorns isn't an obvious top dps anymore, he's just a filthy male to many folks now

[crystal cargo]

Ok trying this

[livid delta]

He retroactively fell off

[meager thistle]

best of luck that mlynar skill and warfarin for exusia prob gonna do a ton

[crystal cargo]

Yeah idk what’s in this stage

[meager thistle]

After 350 its a endurance test

and then mandra comes out somewhere between all that with the aoe fireball casters

[crystal cargo]

Why does it hit ethan

The fireball hits mlynar

[meager thistle]

I think it explodes on first op contact it doesnt go through prob wrong though

[crystal cargo]

Yeah it hits mlynar and explodes

Guess it’s a weird hit box issue

[meager thistle]

Remember they follow a pre set path from launch you can force it to go dowm middle by breaking the pillars so it can't go that way and straight to ethan as thats how just surtur does it

[crystal cargo]

Laser beam person killed warf then exu died

[meager thistle]

Which one is that?

Oh i also realized i answer you question wrong i think the reason it hits eathan is the fireballs are aoe projectiles so i assume its in the usually 8 tiles around hit op

[crystal cargo]

Ok things didn’t go too well

[meager thistle]

Mandra does that have you fought her story version yet?

[crystal cargo]

I’ll just do this anni after event

Nope

[meager thistle]

Her whole gimmick is knocking down those pillars on her to disable her dmg reduction and 2nd phase you cant hit her without arial attacks until you nocked her down again with said pillars

[crystal cargo]

So I actually need to use my brain

[meager thistle]

Yep thats why most people do surtur team you run skalter some healers and people to deal with flyers and a fast redeploy specialist

[karmic glade]

I though mandragora stand there for a eternity in this map

[meager thistle]

Feels like that she moves fast though once she does move

Since you try to kill her as early as possible she never really moves from the spot she spawns and stays at

[crystal cargo]

I thought I could just stat check it Ngl

[karmic glade]

who are you borrowing right now

[meager thistle]

Sutur does that stat check her def is i think b+

[crystal cargo]

Thorns

Usually I borrow thorns for Annis if I know nothing about them

[meager thistle]

A solid pick most of the time

[crystal cargo]

For this should I just bring a surtr to helidrop

If I had enough dp I would have tried helidropping mudrock s3 too but I ran out

[meager thistle]

hmm hard to say

[karmic glade]

If you put chongyue at the cross you can hit mandragora without getting lazer by her, put a blocker (cuora/mudrock maybe?) at green square

[meager thistle]

He has saria so that would work

[crystal cargo]

Ok

[meager thistle]

Now he just needs to deal with the pillars and bottom lane

[crystal cargo]

So I’ll try chongyue then

[karmic glade]

you don't need Thorns for this one, you can put like kroos alter below the green box, and she will knock the flyer down

[crystal cargo]

So what do I do with the pillars

[meager thistle]

You dmg them until they glow broken orange and when you want to topple them you have to hit them from the direction opposite so below the bottom pillars up to push them where mandra spawns

[crystal cargo]

Squad now

I could replace ethan

[meager thistle]

You have any redeploy specialist

[karmic glade]

You need kroos alter to knock down the flyer, she is a free op in invitation to wine

[crystal cargo]

My gravel is e1 l1

[crystal cargo]

I don’t have her

I don’t think rr is out yet

Either

[meager thistle]

How does she knockem down i dont use her

[crystal cargo]

I also have project red e1 l1

[karmic glade]

stun on hit

[meager thistle]

oh

Project red might work

[karmic glade]

Project red wont work because the stun does not hit air

[meager thistle]

for pillars i mean

just need something to prep pillars since mandra is the hardest part

[karmic glade]

taxes s2 will, but it have such a long cooldown

well rip, you can't do this strats

[meager thistle]

Hes got a while until mandra pops up so it might work

[crystal cargo]

so I can’t stat check boss

[meager thistle]

Not this time

gotta strat

[crystal cargo]

Project red s1?

[meager thistle]

Yep

Only really used for pillars since she is only e1

[crystal cargo]

Ok

[karmic glade]

wait maybe you can, I just remembered that cliffheart also stun flyers

[meager thistle]

and drags

[crystal cargo]

Do I need to stun flyers?

[meager thistle]

Not neccesary but makes them easier

[karmic glade]

if not you would need to kill them with aerial damage

[crystal cargo]

I can probably just exu them

Is that fine

Chong knocked down middle pillar

[meager thistle]

Yeah its fine thats how you get to mandra

[karmic glade]

it's fine, expected

[meager thistle]

it also help the fireball casters later to

[crystal cargo]

So the fireballs are only gonna hit chong?

[karmic glade]

yeah

[crystal cargo]

Ok

[meager thistle]

Just remember that fireballs do dmg then after certain hits that explosion so keep him healthy

[karmic glade]

your chong is probably going to die though, you don't have enough heals for him

[crystal cargo]

I have ptilo and shining

Warf is on exu

[meager thistle]

Hope it works out

[fringe jackal]

if you can put more flags down in the early phases of annihilation and still avoid leaks, that helps later when everything dies and you have to redeploy everything but have like 700+ dp
oh wait, I see normal texas

[crystal cargo]

Should I place mlynar to the left of chong

He would probably get hit by splash

[meager thistle]

Maybe not that close save him for busting down mandra or helidrop

[crystal cargo]

I don’t think I can helidrop mlynar

[fringe jackal]

you can't, but you know what enemy number mandra will spawn on

if you look at it on a video

or look at https://map.ark-nights.com/

[crystal cargo]

Ok this is my setup

I got all of the pillars low

[meager thistle]

She spawns at 352 so be ready for her

[crystal cargo]

Eyja might splash though

[karmic glade]

You can use the left two pillar on the two wave of invisible enemy, the right two pillar is gooed enough for mandragora

[crystal cargo]

Huh

[karmic glade]

just get to 300 kill and you will see

[crystal cargo]

I think I’ll put mlynar behind Lapp to dps

[karmic glade]

good backup panic button

[crystal cargo]

Then I’ll chill with sail behind mlynar generating dp

For boss I knock one pillar on her for phase 1

And one for phase 2

Right

[meager thistle]

Yep you phase 1 is more forgiving so not necessary but helps speed it up but phase 2 you have to burst down after she is stunned

[karmic glade]

No you don't need pillar for phase 1, two pillar for phase 2

phase 1 without pillar is just some reduced damage, but phase 2 she is in air so chong can't hit her

[crystal cargo]

Ok

[proud drift]

Eyja splash won’t make it fall

Op has to be next to pillar to damage it

Which makes me ask why is ur chong facing left

Or is that normal for chong (I never used him)

[crystal cargo]

Messed up but still won

Nearly everyone died

But ofc mudrock is clutch carry

I had to redeploy eyja

[meager thistle]

On skill 3 he range extends in the 4 directions 2 tiles away so doesnt really matter to much

[crystal cargo]

To get hits

[meager thistle]

Also congrats didnt need surtur lol

[crystal cargo]

Yeah

[karmic glade]

I see you get zapped

[crystal cargo]

I did the second pillar on boss right away

Because I didn’t know she went back to flying

[fringe jackal]

nicely done, much cleaner than my clear

[crystal cargo]

So she zapped Chong

Then left top pillar sniped eyja

[karmic glade]

Well now you know, don't do that in the main story

[crystal cargo]

So I used bottom left pillar to kill boss

Then fireball caster killed everyone except mlynar and exu

I wanted to do this annihilation to not use brain but I ended up using a Strat anyways

At least it was mostly afk

[proud drift]

You’ll have a fun time in ch9

[crystal cargo]

I saw one lane and wanted to unga bunga it

[jovial nest]

I want Liberator and Bard modules now. Any amt of ATK stats it gives is gonna be huge

[fast basin]

see them give bard hp and def stat

[jovial nest]

one of the modules has to give ATK. Bards' trust are ATK and DEF

[tidal sedge]

That'd still buff Skalter s2

[karmic glade]

Bard modules increase range to saria s3 range

[jovial nest]

both would be better

[tidal sedge]

I want Bard module so I can stop coping and hoping Heidi mod will be good

[jovial nest]

I still use Skalter a lot

[tidal sedge]

Skalter could use a boost so she could get something juicy. I see folks use her less often these days.

[jovial nest]

I use her still because some of my nukers are redep

so her summon's useful

in both buffing and sustaining those redeps

also S3 too

the few buffers that actually buff more than 1 ops

even if her buff is a weak additive, she buffs multiple ops

[meager thistle]

I could use a skalter of my own lol

[weak gazelle]

this patch mod only for reaper and geek?
or there's more?

[strange fable]

artificer

[weak gazelle]

artificer?

[tidal sedge]

Stainless, Roberta, Windflit

[weak gazelle]

ohhh
windshit, no wonder i didnt remember artificer exist

[tidal sedge]

Reaper module arrived with SL in CN interestingly enough

We got it early. My suspicion it is to sell Exfed and drain orundum prior to Eyjaberry banner

[weak gazelle]

so we (non cn) get special treatment

[tidal sedge]

In this case it's beneficial at least

[latent monolith]

Rare EN W

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1014771564685819914/1189108910263648286/Screenshot_2023-12-26-12-56-38-658_com.YoStarEN.Arknights.jpg

He just deleted them

[weak gazelle]

yeah its beneficial
since exfed is really appealing (both design & gameplay wise)
but in-game event

idk the event itself feel lacking

[tidal sedge]

If you know how to manage the civs it's easy ye

A lot of folks seem to struggle with that though

[limpid siren]

i wonder if ex will be more interesting

[tidal sedge]

I've been trying my e1 leftovers and it's been hell though

The enemies are actually really bulky for e1 firepower

[limpid siren]

lol

rip new players

[tidal sedge]

I can see why newer folks are having trouble with HE-5 and HE-6

[weak gazelle]

uhhh
i try with lower power ops
still not big different, it just a play to defend and constant click the altar to manage civs

[tidal sedge]

I thought if they could limp to HE-7 they could farm there but that map sucks too despite half of it killing itself via holes

[weak gazelle]

but its me who already know the game for so long
but complete newbie will stumble hard enough from HE-5 and above

hahaha
yeah HE-7 are 'trap' kind of map

the one that standing still there are the bulky one

if this are hard enough
eyjaberry event would be more merciless against newbie (based on what i've been told about the event tho)

[tidal sedge]

A bad time to be new ig if that's true

[gray stone]

In a perfect world, early stage guides would be made with E1 low lvl and low trust

A friend of mine watched guides and he got gaslighted into thinking he messed up somewhere when it's just the massive stat diff between Kyo's ops and his

[tidal sedge]

Yeah. I had that realization as far back as MB

[lost summit]

You gotta take a lot of DP gen

[limpid siren]

[lost summit]

for HE sorry haha

[tidal sedge]

It's not just needing dp for statues

[lost summit]

Of course but it helps a lot

[tidal sedge]

The premier threats have 400-500 def and 15k+ hp

[lost summit]

Cough cough large robot

[tidal sedge]

Even my e1 55 sl7 3*s do shit to that kind of bulk

[lost summit]

Yeah I mean

3 stars are 3 stars

[tidal sedge]

Managing civs with dp is pointless if you can't kill things

[lost summit]

My max fang tanks nothing and does no damage next to my Texas or Saga

[tidal sedge]

I'm talking from a new person perspective

[gray stone]

Yo wtf

[tidal sedge]

If we're talking no holds barred, you don't need oodles of dp

[gray stone]

Is the key to this event just defenders and shifters

[tidal sedge]

I've used MuMu as solo vg just fine and her dp gen is ass

[gray stone]

New players would have it even worse with low trust and pots

[scarlet fulcrum]

The only mob with weight 5 in this event yea, other cheesed by hole. Technically u can hole this guy too. But too much for newb

[tidal sedge]

Yeah. The crossbows are only weight 2 surprisingly

[lost summit]

Lots of block helps a ton

[gray stone]

Is Jessica's event hard

Boss is very hard but idk about the mobs

[tidal sedge]

Idk anything about Jess event

[lost summit]

Got a hell of a theme

OST is baller

[gray stone]

Chip is unfortunately used as a Typhon showcase

[lost summit]

Typhon is crazy

[gray stone]

Her S3 shits on him

[lost summit]

we think she deserves the EX tier on Gamepress?

[gray stone]

It really isn't that Typhon S3 is crazy, it's just that he one shots ground units

[limpid siren]

Typhon?

[gray stone]

No

[lost summit]

what about Eyja

alter

[scarlet fulcrum]

Another pacifist boss

[gray stone]

Ms Healsalot

[limpid siren]

Eyja probably won’t make it

EX is largely restricted to dps

[lost summit]

Maybe we dont have a good enough healer

or debuffer

[gray stone]

Why did they choose EX as above S

[lost summit]

pokemon fans

[limpid siren]

Because mlynar then texas and friends meaningfully raised the bar

[gray stone]

Ok cool

They broken

[scarlet fulcrum]

More like megaman term tbh

[limpid siren]

It’s just like

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ex is highest lmao

[lost summit]

Mlynar is just absurd Idek what they were thinking im gonna be real

[limpid siren]

6*s realistically can’t ever be placed lower than something like A+

[gray stone]

In return, he did absolutely nothing but damage

[limpid siren]

With very few exceptions

[lost summit]

Cough cough mostima

[gray stone]

And don't preach his taunt

[limpid siren]

So to properly mark the new wave of big dog dps units

There needed to be a new tier

[lost summit]

I didnt even know he had one gonne be real

I just saw his massive AOE and stupid numbers

[limpid siren]

As the alternative is shoving everyone else down a peg

[gray stone]

Huh?

[lost summit]

She was below A before module

[gray stone]

Mostima looks good when you look at the entire game

And see shits like Skyfire exist

[lost summit]

Skyfire's not thaaat baaaad

[limpid siren]

She’s pretty bad

[foggy grove]

i wonder if i should finally raise my mostima

[gray stone]

Bias brainrot

[foggy grove]

or do weedy first

[scarlet fulcrum]

weedy tbh

[lost summit]

How do I beat this

[gray stone]

Izumik Weedy

[lost summit]

the characters they give are trash

[gray stone]

Something something, be better?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just utilize her s2 range and time properly

[glass monolith]

They give ptilo so LETS FUCKING GO

[limpid siren]

oh that one is like

[gray stone]

Most psims are clearable with E2L1 sl7 iirc

[limpid siren]

need to figure out who goes where

[tidal sedge]

It's mostly just time Arene skill properly and Ptilo skill properly

[limpid siren]

iirc it's arene to the right

[dark glade]

Im getting vifer ptsd

[tidal sedge]

It's Arene right, Cuora bot, Mousse left

[lost summit]

yeah I got that

I got it I think

[tidal sedge]

The mob density aligns with their block count

[lost summit]

just messed up one thing

[gray stone]

I remember Orchid PS being pretty annoying to do

[glass monolith]

You need to activate S2 Ptilo at almost last moment before Cuora dies or something

[tidal sedge]

Enforcer paradox took me a while to do

[gray stone]

Despite everything being very intuitive

[tidal sedge]

Idk if I even did it as intended

[foggy grove]

i have timing issue with orchid

[glass monolith]

That bitch unlocks on 50 trust, but she doesn't have stats to kill drone before more trust

[scarlet fulcrum]

Doable tbh

[lost summit]

you gotta have some hella tight timing for that S2 tho my god

[glass monolith]

Well you literally press S2 before Cuora/Mousse uncommit living

[lost summit]

Arene was the main problem actually

he was 1 tap

[glass monolith]

Arene skill activation issue

[gray stone]

Huh?

Weird

[glass monolith]

I don't recall him getting low

[spark sinew]

just did mine because i didn't clear it
arene was never low

[gray stone]

I time it based on Mousse blocking the butcher

[spark sinew]

well except for the first ptilo deploy but that's expected

[lost summit]

My ptilo is lower level maybe

[spark sinew]

can vulcan and snowsant clear their parasims sl1 lvl1?

[lost summit]

only E2 lv1

[spark sinew]

jeez

[lost summit]

dont be mean

I have zero lmd lmfao

How do I do Soras?

[spark sinew]

i will be mean to person who doesn't raise best 5* medic
i hate vulcan parasim already

boss just stays until the last moment

so if your strat/timings are shit you need to sit through it again

[gray stone]

Who is the best 5 star medic really

[dark glade]

Folinic clearly

[spark sinew]

i mean

[proud drift]

Ptilopsis

[spark sinew]

i don't count touch btw

[glass monolith]

Vendela waiting room

[spark sinew]

just in case

[gray stone]

It's literally just Silence vs Ptilopsis

[proud drift]

Whisperrain and Warfarin can be argued for

[gray stone]

And Warfarin I guess

[gray stone]

Whisperrain no

[spark sinew]

warf and hibilter can be argued for

[foggy grove]

ignues will prolly say silence

[spark sinew]

hibi has unique properties

[proud drift]

Why not whisperrain, her S2 is p.decent

[spark sinew]

lemme check vendela kit, maybe she has slow

[tidal sedge]

Whisperain gets crushed by Quercus in hps

[proud drift]

She has massive range and decent heal with anti-cc

[limpid siren]

[proud drift]

Never used quercus so can’t say much

[gray stone]

Oh so it's the owl

[proud drift]

Never had quercus either

[limpid siren]

Quercus kinda wants module, she’s okay without but im not that big a fan

[gray stone]

Wait there are 2 owls in there

[proud drift]

Ptilopsis has the highest HPS in the game probably to this day, no?

[gray stone]

No

Eyja

[proud drift]

Oh eyja exists right

Lmaoo

[limpid siren]

Ptilo st hps isn’t that impressive tbh

[tidal sedge]

Whisperain needs her module to be competitive with non-module Quercus as it is.

[limpid siren]

Yea I don’t like whisperain either

[tidal sedge]

Though they have their range differences ofc

[proud drift]

I think whisper’s range and S2 allows her to somewhat have a desire for attention

Not core, but not “bad” per se?

[gray stone]

Nah

[tidal sedge]

Guys how to anni3

:(

[gray stone]

She doesn't heal that much in modern AK

[proud drift]

Mmm in modern maybe yeah

[tidal sedge]

I have SA but not e2

[spark sinew]

whisperain is very non competitive nowadays

[proud drift]

I’m still stuck in is2 and pre ch11 days mentally with usefulness thoughts

[spark sinew]

not useful either

idr when last time resist mattered

[lost summit]

Just run kaltsit

[tidal sedge]

What's your squad and what part is troubling you

[spark sinew]

maybe on new acc on degen event?
but then i heard harold doesn't give a shit

[proud drift]

Cowtits isn’t 5*

[tidal sedge]

Defense crushers ig

[proud drift]

Last time I used whisperrain was doing the funny ice anni lmao

And in IS2

[spark sinew]

penance ouch
are you borrowing?

[tidal sedge]

I could

Im fine with that

[somber falcon]

use s2 on penance

[tidal sedge]

Mk

[lost summit]

Borrow Mlynar

[somber falcon]

since that's the only form of healing you can afford her here

[tidal sedge]

Idk how to use liberators properly

[spark sinew]

amiya is probably a dead slot here 🤔

[lost summit]

You put him in front and click his skill when big guys show up

[tidal sedge]

Isnt s3 better tho in that case? Its basically 80% hp back

[proud drift]

Can gg s2 not handle crushers?

Or is non e2 gg not that good at handling them

[somber falcon]

def recovery

[proud drift]

[tidal sedge]

Still tho...

Ok then

And gg isnt e2 yeah

[somber falcon]

she'll just eat ballista arrow and die without constant blocking

[proud drift]

Yea her e2 is a massive upgrade but I wonder if it’s holding you back with crushers cuz of it

[tidal sedge]

Ah.

[proud drift]

Could alternatively borrow an e2 eyja/gg for crushers if they give you trouble

Or mlynar/SA

[tidal sedge]

Ill do mly

[proud drift]

Liberators aren’t hard to use

[tidal sedge]

Well, i hope so

[proud drift]

Think of it as a pre-deployed silverash button

Ghost SA so to say

Cuz he doesn’t exist for the most part outside of ranged enemies

Until he uses button

[tidal sedge]

I could e2 my SA but im tryna get gg first

[spark sinew]

comparing with 5*.. she only has the range over others, but not enough healing in my experience
i don't use silence much so no idea how drone compares on healing

[tidal sedge]

Unless i should change my prio?

[spark sinew]

oh yeah use sa here instead of amiya

[proud drift]

Nah cowtits isn’t a healer imo lmao

[spark sinew]

in fact, i'm not sure who blocks where here

[dark glade]

Idk i just borrow thorns for anni3

[proud drift]

Only her range is what allows her to be used as a healer

[lost summit]

Not E2'ed tho

[dark glade]

[proud drift]

Literally a “i’m a healer, but..”

[lost summit]

Thorns is nice too

[tidal sedge]

Isnt one guard enough (lapp)

[spark sinew]

oh, she i mean whisperain

[proud drift]

Ah

[spark sinew]

sa s2 for like blocking bot 🤔

or mid

[limpid siren]

Silence drone is 139 avg hps per target

[proud drift]

I never used Silence and didn’t have 6* healers until recently

[spark sinew]

idk amiya e0 is giga cope

[proud drift]

Whisperrain S2 surprisingly helped in a lot of cases for me

I remember bringing her out when I needed an extra healer for something, especially if needed range

[lost summit]

My only 6 star heals IS caltsit

I mean

lumen too

but lv 1 fr

[proud drift]

I don’t count kaltsit as a healer

[tidal sedge]

If i would want to block, maybe spot is a better option right

I mean SA does dmg so you might be right

In that case i think i should use s2

For heals

[spark sinew]

sa is chonky and has constant regen
but it's been awhile since i compared him vs spot

[tidal sedge]

The fact that you already compared is

To me

[dark glade]

fo anni3 with that id borrow thorns
weaker sniper on botlane with thorns facing up in front
mid will be the defenders
stronger sniper on top

[spark sinew]

it's you who compared them

[tidal sedge]

I did..

[proud drift]

How is chongyue for crushers in anni3, cause I never seen chongyue so idk how to think of him besides him having massive nuke

[dark glade]

wait idk how to handle crushers e0 amiya kinda cope

[proud drift]

[somber falcon]

how is spot even comparable to sa s2

even in e1

[limpid siren]

Thorns in front of the sniper requires some pretty serious healing iirc

[spark sinew]

also funny, too bad i didn't mention which sa skill i meant

[limpid siren]

Otherwise he explodes at 350

[tidal sedge]

Why funny

[somber falcon]

iirc he just get deleted regardless
since like 3 arts drone attack together

[tidal sedge]

I prolly cant afford to do that

Silence doesnt heal enough i think

[foggy grove]

why are you using silence s1 tho

[tidal sedge]

..

600 heal per uh

Thing?

Drug?

Atk i mean

[foggy grove]

drone

[tidal sedge]

Ok

[limpid siren]

I’d recommend her s2 over s1

[tidal sedge]

I also have hellagur

But hes at lv1

Hm..

I dont have much else for dmg

Just an e0 50 firewhistle if thats even notable

[limpid siren]

Mid e1 is about the lowest you’ll be comfortable going

[tidal sedge]

Hmm

Alright

Firewhistle actually sounds decent here possibly.

But with an e2 already, I imagine it's not necessary if you've no other plans for her

This mlynar good enough?

[proud drift]

101 trust

[tidal sedge]

I mean its endy's

[spark sinew]

if that's the best you can find, probably

[tidal sedge]

Friended so

[proud drift]

I’d try to find a 200% trust mly ngl

101% trust is a bit pain?

[spark sinew]

wow tomimi paradox has layers

[proud drift]

But maybe

[tidal sedge]

Hm.

[gray stone]

Isn't 101% the cap for borrows?

[proud drift]

100% for borrow is 50% stats

200% trust makes the borrow have 100% trust stats

Unless they reworked it

Which I doubt

[spark sinew]

i think it's very recent addition to UI that shows modules and other shit

maybe this event

[tidal sedge]

Ill tell endy to get a better mlynar

[gray stone]

I meant they slashed it before they show it to you

[proud drift]

Ah maybe

Ask endy if his mlynar is 200% trust

To test something

Can’t ask someone to check my ptilopsis fia or archetto

[tidal sedge]

Asked

[proud drift]

[tidal sedge]

Gime ur username

Ill add

[proud drift]

I can’t login to accept

[spark sinew]

idt i have anyone here added

[proud drift]

I’m at work

[tidal sedge]

Mk

Endy prolly sleepin

[spark sinew]

yeah it's slashed

[proud drift]

Interesting

[proud drift]

Why’d they do that

[spark sinew]

no way it's 101 trust maxed hung

[tidal sedge]

Ok so is that mlynar usable or not

Is what im asking

[proud drift]

Yes

[tidal sedge]

Ok.

[gray stone]

They slash it before they show it to you

[limpid siren]

here's an old as bones setup that borrows ifrit s2 to help dps 3 lanes
E6 (below ptilopsis) can be plugged by either bubble, or penance if you noticed she survives there
B7 (below may) is often filled by an e1 sl7 shaw - the idea being to shove the more dangerous enemies into the hole at B9

[spark sinew]

@turbid badge ok lurker

[gray stone]

Wtfart

[tidal sedge]

Wtf did you even use to make that

[limpid siren]

reserve units can be a bunch of ground units + goldenglow

[tidal sedge]

Im more intrigued by that

[limpid siren]

ground units to replace stunned/killed blockers

[turbid badge]

arkmap

[tidal sedge]

Zamn i see

[limpid siren]

goldenglow to replace may at wave 350 (let may kill the drones first)

https://map.ark-nights.com/

you may or may not need to swap may back in to kill one of the last drones

but lappland can reach that lane too

so maybe it's fine

[tidal sedge]

Reserve units as in? Deploy when needed?

[limpid siren]

yea just the rest of your squad that isn't deployed

[tidal sedge]

I see

[limpid siren]

silverash strats require e2 and the timing is annoying to explain over text so i won't talk about that

[gray stone]

Ifrit has always been the braindead easy strat

[tidal sedge]

I guess ill use this strat then

[spark sinew]

i def remember the above setup leaking top drones

[gray stone]

This is why you add a Sniper dummy

[limpid siren]

worked for me

[tidal sedge]

I dont like the sound of that lmao

[limpid siren]

oh

i

[spark sinew]

you want to add something either in the very back (not aa sniper) or aa sniper to the left

[limpid siren]

forgot to add kroos

[tidal sedge]

Anyways

[tidal sedge]

I wouldve used anyways

So

[tidal sedge]

Yea alr

[spark sinew]

how much you wanna bet person who asked this wouldn't have added those (too late though, you win nothing)

[limpid siren]

siege on s1 for this btw

[tidal sedge]

Any specific order for deployment?

And sure

[limpid siren]

if you already made it to 350 then you should be fine to figure it out

siege and kroos first is probably clever though

then just add units as you see fit

if you need an ifrit borrow i think i have her e2

[tidal sedge]

Why no ifrit in support

[karmic glade]

whats this tool

[limpid siren]

https://map.ark-nights.com/

[limpid siren]

Igneus#1125 if you need one

just e2 60 s2m1 but meh it will work

[tidal sedge]

Ok

Adding hold on

Sent

[limpid siren]

alright ifrit should be up

[tidal sedge]

Ok ill check

Got her

[limpid siren]

[limpid siren]

don't need myrtle tbh

[tidal sedge]

Myrtle e0 yes

[tidal sedge]

Yea ik

[limpid siren]

got gravel at e1 or something?

[tidal sedge]

...sadly no

[limpid siren]

all good

[tidal sedge]

Not much is at e1

[limpid siren]

any more defenders or thick bodies might be nice

[tidal sedge]

I could melantha instead

[tidal sedge]

True

[limpid siren]

could

2/3 block is nice but not mandatory

[tidal sedge]

Well,

[limpid siren]

you basically just want bodies to throw at the problem when people die

ideally you can keep enemies in range of ifrit

[tidal sedge]

The only other defender options i have are questionable

[spark sinew]

gravel wants e1 1 anyway for base btw, maybe you can get the cash
i like pioneer (any) over myrtle here

[limpid siren]

use your best judgment

[tidal sedge]

Yea ill use noir

[spark sinew]

judging by no e1 gravel you probably have texas?

[tidal sedge]

I do

[limpid siren]

you're already batting at a disadvantage, so just try your best

[tidal sedge]

E1 30 infact

[tidal sedge]

Yea.

[limpid siren]

grab her then

[spark sinew]

use over myrtle

[limpid siren]

only reason i suggested an executor is for the fast redeploy time

[tidal sedge]

S2? I presume?

[limpid siren]

idk what her skills do tbh

[tidal sedge]

S2 is crowd control

Stun+arts dmg

[limpid siren]

[tidal sedge]

And some dp on the side

[limpid siren]

oh

vg texas

nah

[tidal sedge]

Range is like lin e1

Ok

[limpid siren]

1 vg will be enough

[tidal sedge]

Thought yall meant texas vg

[limpid siren]

no worries

[proud drift]

Texas alter S2 is probably ironically very good at murdering crushers

[spark sinew]

og you guys already cut myrtle
yeah it's whatever then

[tidal sedge]

So yea. Either i use firewhistle as an actual defender or noir corne

[proud drift]

Very high arts S2 dmg

[tidal sedge]

Now that i think about it

Cant i just borrow texalter s3

[limpid siren]

if they're both e0, noir corne will have more stats i think

[tidal sedge]

Probably

[proud drift]

S3 texter probably won’t handle crushers

[limpid siren]

just pick whoever has more hp/def since really that's all you care about

[tidal sedge]

Alr

[proud drift]

S2 texter can murder a couple tho

Cuz her S2 dps is insane

[limpid siren]

it's just about holding them in place tbh

[tidal sedge]

Theyre both almost the same

[proud drift]

S3 would be able to lock them a bit and even delay their punches tho yeah

[limpid siren]

ifrit will get through them, the question is whether the blocker gets stunned first

[tidal sedge]

Firewhistle just has 1 less block

Ill go with fw

Shes just backup anyway

Final team

[turbid badge]

wtf u have penance

[tidal sedge]

Yea..?

[proud drift]

Teta bit late lmao

[tidal sedge]

Thats one of the first things ive shown in the screenshots previously

[turbid badge]

looks fine

[tidal sedge]

Ok then

[turbid badge]

may and kroos should clear drones

remember deployment order

to deploy melee last in case

[lost summit]

Chonky penaaance

[tidal sedge]

Vg last

Yea

About penance tho

Spam skill whenever?

Cuz he was worried about hp drain by the crossbows and all unless that doesnt matter

Hp drain in general**

[limpid siren]

did you do a run with her before?

[tidal sedge]

I did not

[limpid siren]

[tidal sedge]

Well

We will see how it goes

[limpid siren]

idk which skill would be better

but yea

just try it out

[tidal sedge]

Ill do it on practice plan

[proud drift]

Do on main

[tidal sedge]

For now i gotta eat

[spark sinew]

do not

[tidal sedge]

Why not

[proud drift]

You can close arknights in anni

To save sanity

[tidal sedge]

Oh

[spark sinew]

force close the anni on leaks/loss

but before the official loss screen

[tidal sedge]

Like close in recent apps? Zamn

[proud drift]

Only works for anni tho

[tidal sedge]

Yoo

Sick

So even if i lose an enemy im good

Good to know

[lost summit]

That is very nice to know

[tidal sedge]

Back and still havent tried the strat

I will now though so yeah

Ok i did p well but i fucked up myself bcuz i didnt place smth down for bombtails quick enough

Thats on me.

I used penance to hold bottom lane and worked wonders though

But actually i shoulda used her in the middle

[deft badger]

what are u even doing?

starter anni?

borrow thorns... 🙂

[vernal lion]

he's doing anni 3

[deft badger]

borrow thorns

[vernal lion]

thorns won't do anything to defender crusher

[deft badger]

thorns solos that map xD

[vernal lion]

prove?

[deft badger]

bro xD

w8 there is a 2 years old video

[spark sinew]

the minimum clear is 3op

[deft badger]

whats that anni called again?

[spark sinew]

factually disproven

[deft badger]

not solo solo

[gleaming lodge]

Thorns, Myrtle, Mayer

[deft badger]

when i say solo i mean he f them all up

[gleaming lodge]

Is the anni3 3op

[deft badger]

ofc he cant solo it

[spark sinew]

i remember one without vanguards

actually cool

[gleaming lodge]

Mayer essentially deals with the defense crusher

[deft badger]

but u just need holders for the other spots thorns deals with all the s- there is

[spark sinew]

or maybe i'm confusing it with smth else

[deft badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq4Qy94GukI

[limpid siren]

just let them cook with the strat they have for now

if it doesn't work you can talk about the thorns stuff

[vernal lion]

yea

[deft badger]

@vernal lion didn't mean literally solo... just that thorns is the best op u can borrow there

[spark sinew]

||we were both joking...i hope||

[vernal lion]

if it was me, I just borrow Ifrit

[spark sinew]

no one took it literally

[limpid siren]

ifrit borrow is the current strat

[vernal lion]

the only issue with Ifrit strat is deployment slots

[deft badger]

that would be if u have strong enough fronts to hold

[vernal lion]

hmm 10% more piecing dmg

with s1m3, it should be a lot of dmg

[tidal sedge]

Im cooking

Also i do have mayer but lv1

[vernal lion]

tbh my fav squad

[spark sinew]

don't even bother with mayer
also it doesn't really matter whom you have, it matters what you have raised: not like you will raise them for this anni

[deft badger]

hahahahaha

someone invested in vigil

[tidal sedge]

Ah.

Amazing.

S2 doesnt help for barrier in weaker waves

S3 time

Kroos and ptil seem to get killed bcuz i have nothing infront of those

But then i have too many units on screen and hit the cap so i cant place anything infront

[somber falcon]

deployment issue
ballista alone won't kill them

[tidal sedge]

Yea.

[spark sinew]

deploy defenders after them

[tidal sedge]

I put kroos>may>siege>ptil>ifrit

[tidal sedge]

Deployment limit

Then i will have a slot missing at the bottom

The last lane

[spark sinew]

uh

[somber falcon]

deployment order, not deploy more

[tidal sedge]

Where i have SA in the ss

[tidal sedge]

Bro

But i do deploy defenders at the end

Well ill try with penance s3

[spark sinew]

penance is really not the issue here

[tidal sedge]

But she did die

[spark sinew]

she would probably die to bolts as well but sure
anyway, if you have slot

deploy lancet here

facing bot

idk why your ptilo is dying but this might help

[tidal sedge]

What do i do for last lane

Same as before?

[deft badger]

kroos doesn't kill the drone fast enough

drone kills her and the healer there

[tidal sedge]

Thats what i think too

[spark sinew]

drone would pummel defenders

[deft badger]

trust me just use thorns lol

[tidal sedge]

I am playing rn tho so yea

[deft badger]

place lapp or aren infront kroos

and enjoy

[tidal sedge]

Ill try that after this

[deft badger]

watch the video up there first since u have to replace like 2 times
in case ur tank dies on bot bring gravel with u she can hold till ur tank is ready again

at a point 3 drones hit that corner

[tidal sedge]

The thing is

My gravel isnt e1

[deft badger]

then anything that is low cost and can hold one add for 60sec

did have to watch the video on my own again, was thinking that they open at 350 top u open it at 300 😄

at 350 when the crusher passes u close it

that's it and keep a replacement for bot in case the tank dies

[vernal lion]

WAIT A MINUTE

THE THORN CHEST IS NOW REFLECTED DMG TO LING ???

WTF

[tropic valve]

BASED

[vernal lion]

WHAT THE HELL MAN

HG ???

[tropic valve]

did you activate S3?

the arts damage comes from Ling

[vernal lion]

OH

that's why

damn it

[tropic valve]

[tidal sedge]

Ling s3 has always worked like that

Mf...

[tropic valve]

same thing happens to Mlynar and Kazimierz ops btw

[tidal sedge]

I found the culprit who killed ptilo

[tropic valve]

Mlynar's true damage is small enough that it won't kill him probably

[tidal sedge]

It's why the DoT doesn't affect croc champions if a Ling summon blocks them

[spark sinew]

with how much you post ling screesnhots i'm surprised

[tidal sedge]

It was a bombtail

[tropic valve]

but it's annoying when you're fighting TLK and Mlynar randomly freezes because you dropped Gravel

[deft badger]

means place a op infront which u can't xD

but u can at 300 u can remove top melee

place something infront of kroos to let the bomb go on that op

but i don't know if they spawn later

u have to place that op back when the crusher moves

that's why just try thorns, its going to work 100%

[spark sinew]

don't place op infront

retreat something and place op somewhere in the open

[vernal lion]

ok tell me

IF

[polar crane]

if

[vernal lion]

you always get dice with 1

[somber falcon]

If

[vernal lion]

from F2 to F5

is it called shiity luck?

[somber falcon]

[tidal sedge]

Unless you're 100 light ye

[vernal lion]

not anymore

today is so bad tho

can't believe that you will have this chance to experience the shittiest luck

weird combination

kinda love this tho

[tidal sedge]

Best run

Well,

This means i cant do it

Ill try thorns now ig..

[vernal lion]

alright

I didn't get that Ling relic

[tropic valve]

hemo on erato seems fine

she's usually not taking hits

[vernal lion]

yea, but keeping her with 1 hp is pretty much anxious

especially when you change deployment but in wrong timing

[deft badger]

if u need a thorns just add me

[tidal sedge]

Username?

Is yours maxxed?

[deft badger]

yes

[tidal sedge]

Username

[deft badger]

i did pm u

[tidal sedge]

Ye

Sent req

Put on the thorns as support pls?

[tropic valve]

it's simply an emergency active agent buff

[spark sinew]

wow, weak thorns

[tidal sedge]

Turns out i had another guy with thorns in my list aswell

Lmao

Basically same thorns

[deft badger]

only lvl90 op i own xD

[tidal sedge]

Welp

Wish me luck ig

[deft badger]

remember to open top at 300

[vernal lion]

I want to kms

[spark sinew]

?

[deft badger]

i want that blaze mod...

her dps output comes close to thorns then xD

when do we get it btw?

[sullen rover]

nice start

[tropic valve]

holy

[spark sinew]

lost on draft

[tropic valve]

silver forks opener

as long as you make it to your first sniper you win

[spark sinew]

true

[spark sinew]

pick the one starting on S

[tidal sedge]

Works?

[tropic valve]

yes

[spark sinew]

SKrooster or SPozy are my recs

[tropic valve]

no

also, 4 life points?

is your tree not upgraded?

[deft badger]

@spark sinew btw i did hit 150 lol
6 copies and 1 eben that's what i got now the fun is over i am pulling for exe..
heavy mental dmg, i don't know how the hell with a 50% chance its hitting 7 times of banner but ok lets just say its rigged

[vernal lion]

[spark sinew]

only 150?
or just hit it and pulling later?

cause hitting it on 150 is...unfortunate

[deft badger]

i am at 150 pulls in total now on exe

[lapis hornet]

do you just spark at 150 now or smth

[deft badger]

still didn't get him i got gnosis on 148 xD

[lapis hornet]

or is it next 6*

[spark sinew]

next

[lapis hornet]

kk

[deft badger]

but ok from now the next 6 star is exe

[lapis hornet]

weird to go that hard for exe when you have a lot of laners alr tho

[spark sinew]

they added it right when cn disclosed that hard pity was at 250 rolls

[deft badger]

wanted to skip him, at 5th of banner i got so mad that i wanted to stop actually lol

[lapis hornet]

lol happens

I was gonna pull til 1st pity but that happened super early so I went for 2nd and got him, woulda given up otherwise 🤷‍♀️

[deft badger]

i am still mad af, that i am getting 6 copies for all that pulls

and a stupid eben