strategy

[limpid siren]

[turbid badge]

wow there is a abundance

why i hve 9 no idea

[spark sinew]

i have 5 and use like 1

[limpid siren]

Marksman is a bloated archetype yea

[quick pecan]

i have exu and archetto and raised neither

[turbid badge]

bloated

af

[quick pecan]

literally just use platinum + blue poison

[spark sinew]

wait do you count maxed 3*, surely not

[limpid siren]

It was like ~40% of the entire class last time i checked

[turbid badge]

i never even did mods for them other than exu cuz it intimidating

feeding all these marksmen

[scarlet fulcrum]

Weirdly enough i only mod the 5* aa

[weak gazelle]

at least there is coldshot & caper as new archetype soon
so we can cope for more better variant

[turbid badge]

may , meteor , big kroos, gt , bp, april , exu , ash, plat

coldshot looks good

will def raise

[spark sinew]

oh colshot was the new archetype?
oh, the ammo thingy

[turbid badge]

yea

doesnt work with chalter sadly

[spark sinew]

do they work with

ok

[turbid badge]

lol

[limpid siren]

[limpid siren]

This drives me insane

I hate that coldshot doesn’t have a “full refresh” ammo effect on either skill

Because 100% chance the 6* does

[spark sinew]

[scarlet fulcrum]

HG pattern tbh

[quick pecan]

well it’s nice that she has high dph as a welfare i guess

[limpid siren]

What’s her dph?

[quick pecan]

with s2 with reload interval it’s like 4k

[limpid siren]

Not horrible

[gray stone]

Coldshot module will make her good trust

[quick pecan]

the archetype has a 120% atk scale in trait and then she has a 133% atk scale in her talent

[scarlet fulcrum]

Trait+skill like yea around that 3.9k

[limpid siren]

Realistically still just like.. why

Where is my power creep, hg

[gray stone]

You can'tbe good if you are lower than 6 stars sorry

They are afraid to overshoot

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its called 6* 💳

[limpid siren]

Flashback to DH

[gray stone]

DH was so pog

[limpid siren]

When they power crept every 5* dps twice

[quick pecan]

can’t even cope spuria buffing her bc pretty sure her interval becomes lower than the stun which also causes her to lose the atk scale from talent

[gray stone]

Tequila and La Pluma

So good

[turbid badge]

wow

[limpid siren]

[turbid badge]

wtff

[weak gazelle]

nah
i just cope coldshot gacha version would be way better
if there is any ofc🚬

[spark sinew]

well they took their lesson
i still wonder if executor module was an answer to him being...underwhelming on cn
like people expected more

that's why he has random ass def ignore

[gray stone]

My mind is conditioned to see the cig emoji as the british slang for it

[limpid siren]

[quick pecan]

actually interval is 1.7s based off my math

close to stun duration

[limpid siren]

Unironically double spuria buff numbers

Ok ty hg

[quick pecan]

but i think you still lose the atk scale from reload time being below 2s

[limpid siren]

Well

Specifically the atk%

[quick pecan]

not sure if her getting stunned means she has to deal with the 1.8s stun then reload after

[limpid siren]

Aspd can stay at 40

[quick pecan]

i’m assuming yes

[limpid siren]

Hmm

[turbid badge]

oh the stun shortens?

at m3

[limpid siren]

When does reload start for coldshot?

[turbid badge]

i thought only aspd increased

[quick pecan]

yes it’s 1.8s at s2m3

with a 20% chance

[quick pecan]

when she has no bullets

[turbid badge]

oh crap

[limpid siren]

Wait wh

[turbid badge]

i need to m2

[spark sinew]

time to shill e1 spuria in IS

[quick pecan]

the archetype is weird

[limpid siren]

She won’t reload at all if she has any bullets???

[turbid badge]

idk

ill try to dig a bilibili vid

[quick pecan]

it’s basically

[spark sinew]

tf is this

[quick pecan]

max bullets is 8

[spark sinew]

somehow missed it

[quick pecan]

she uses them all when attacking

if not attacking, she reloads

[glass monolith]

Oh wait you talk about new Hunter archetype already instead current cringe event?

[quick pecan]

but if she’s attacking and gets to zero, she reloads one bullet each time.

[limpid siren]

So it’s like mystics but sightly different?

+1 bullet per attack interval with no valid target?

[quick pecan]

ye

[turbid badge]

lol @spark sinew 【【明日方舟】空构：新年轻一代肥鸭的专属攻速拐-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/9OSvYG9 the lumen fia spuria

[limpid siren]

[quick pecan]

fills up to 8 if no targets

if there is a target, she uses the single bullet then reloads.

[limpid siren]

Just needed a force reload mechanic tied to one of her skills, and then i think she’s cooking tbh

Even if it’s not max ammo

But just like +X

[quick pecan]

oh actually

[spark sinew]

she reloads either at 0 ammo or when no enemy in sight
that said i think prts says that her loading time is not affected by s2

oh there's EN version

[scarlet fulcrum]

Most bottom one

[spark sinew]

i struggled with MTL shit

[quick pecan]

the wording on s2 specifically increases reload interval and not atk interval

like it’s specifically coded that way

[limpid siren]

Interesting

[quick pecan]

so her initial shots before she fully empties to reload will do less damage

[limpid siren]

Conceptually i think there’s something nice here for this archetype

For the johnnys

[quick pecan]

3k dph instead of 4k

[gray stone]

5 star Loopshooter

[spark sinew]

so you can't buff her reloading with aak/spuria/whatever

[gray stone]

Need it now

I hope they don't fumble the kit again

[spark sinew]

seems pretty ass honestly

[quick pecan]

well according to code

it says reload_interval

not atk_interval

[turbid badge]

[gray stone]

They will definitely release the 6 star with "reduce reload interval"

I can feel it

[quick pecan]

not sure if i’ll raising her since i just use andreana for high dph

it’s fine if she doesn’t kill, her hitting hard to frontload is good enough

usually anyway

[quick pecan]

either that or a skill that just automatically refills the entire mag

[gray stone]

Yuh

[quick pecan]

if she gets a mod that changes her 133% atk scale after not attacking every 2s to like 1.5s then she is cooking

i doubt that’ll happen tho

[scarlet ledge]

@scarlet fulcrum gonna do emergency now

then do cn new sss

urgh

[glass monolith]

Should have holed boss

[scarlet fulcrum]

Another funny map tbh

[scarlet ledge]

what emergency added again? @scarlet fulcrum

both map

[scarlet fulcrum]

i forgor actually, i used same strat like normal and its work. This mode nerfed so hard 💀

[scarlet ledge]

imma do emergency later

gonna do cn sss first

for boss info

i dont care about secret medal on cn anyway

i can fail there

[scarlet fulcrum]

pokedex enjoyer

pog

[scarlet ledge]

nuh uh

only sss info im missing

the first sss not nerfed

[scarlet fulcrum]

💀

[scarlet ledge]

i just dont want to do sss that time

its just bs

especially floor 7

😭

@scarlet fulcrum atleast i can play sss now freely

[scarlet fulcrum]

I only like did 1 stage per day, cause lazy

[scarlet ledge]

since i have new phone

no crashes

AMAZING

😭 😭 😭

[scarlet fulcrum]

jungle flashback

[turbid badge]

【⚡️最强分支⚡️永不冰冻⚡️-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/Nc4KPoO dam

[scarlet fulcrum]

[scarlet ledge]

kekw

jungle

my sss crash at floor 5

i ahve to restart

then fucking crash at ending of fucking mosquito flying dedge

[scarlet fulcrum]

[scarlet ledge]

so i have to restart again

its just amazing

😭

[quick pecan]

ok there’s like actually negative coldshot showcases on youtube

[scarlet fulcrum]

my old phone suprisingly can stand with sss

[quick pecan]

not even anything from welfareknights players from what i can see

[scarlet ledge]

my old is phone like

3gb ram

32gb storage

so kekl

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah same, 3gb ram, 16gb storage. But the gpu in mid Category

[scarlet ledge]

ngl i cant what gpu it is

but mine is crashing

so prob lower

i cant even play BA on that phone @scarlet fulcrum

random crashes

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh wait its chipset but yea 💀

[scarlet ledge]

the only game i play there is just

arknights

lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

I played md more there, smoother in low end phone now anyway we became off topic so i will dip

[scarlet ledge]

kekl

oh ye

what device you used

on both emergency

or its just sp spam device

and atk+ device on ops

[turbid badge]

[scarlet fulcrum]

For medal, any device fine
But the shield device more comfortable on poison
Aoe CC on mama john
AH no doubt good on both

[quick pecan]

i gave up

[turbid badge]

how do u feel

[scarlet ledge]

i see

[spark sinew]

like showcases of guard swire module?

where she tickles 1k defenders on CE-5 for minutes with skill up

[limpid siren]

d00m's channel might have some swire mod gameplay

[spark sinew]

"insane dps"

[turbid badge]

i saw swire he-8 with pluma

[limpid siren]

yea he's been trying to cook with swire mod lately

i think my first he-8 runs had pluma until i realised -2 block meant she fuckin dies if i don't manage deploy order

so i just swapped to bibeak

[turbid badge]

coldshot attack interval 3.2 seconds if she need to reload and also hit

Than u can hit the spuria fr

fun

i keep my spuria m1 so its still 2 secs incase she does stun

can honestly just use any other buffer like heidi sigh

aspd doesnt help hunters at all really

yeah cant rally cope

better options

[limpid siren]

spuria really could have been something cool

[jovial nest]

The cause of suffering for most AK players

[south bone]

Clement reaction to that information

[fringe jackal]

so handsome but causes so much fucking pain

and why is it always the gardeners

[scarlet ledge]

peak gaming @turbid badge

[mossy ore]

phantom user

based

[fast smelt]

It's like this even after reinstalling

[scarlet ledge]

ur storage

kekw

[fast smelt]

I have

20GB +

Storage

[frozen cedar]

show it

[polar crane]

20gb in your sd card is not 20gb

[scarlet ledge]

pro @polar crane

[polar crane]

what

[weak gazelle]

hmm seem like 4 op and below have to bring summoner

[spark sinew]

||there's scene solo||

wild

[weak gazelle]

not surprising if she can do that

[south bone]

Scene solo HE-8?

[spark sinew]

i expected the summons to not have enough bulk

apparently they do have enough

[south bone]

give link to the clear

[spark sinew]

cause people went like "damn ling op"
meanwhile scene clears it lol

[spark sinew]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Xj411Q7fs/

[weak gazelle]

its understandable
cause why 5* when 6* can do it and look cooler

so the gap is 4 ops non summoner (for me)
see if can cut more

[tropic valve]

yeah I used Scene for it too

it's the natural thing to try no? anti-camo and all

[spark sinew]

me see stage, me throw 6* at it, me win

didn't even try scene 2 redeploys and ines brainrot

[bitter cedar]

hello could anyone help me with the new event please

im quite new and i really wanna get the most out of it

[weak gazelle]

natural?
sure if have her and well aware of her kit

[polar crane]

let me guess you fail to do he 1 with several e1

[weak gazelle]

you can show us your roster
so others can give an idea

[spark sinew]

i wonder if robin somehow can replace both snipers

not even sure how tanky mobs are

is Cutter your highest level unit

[spark sinew]

ok this makes more sense

i thought it was insane how you came that far with e0 X max

[bitter cedar]

i mean the lumen event

[weak gazelle]

yes she can
but my nearl cant hold long enough to let robin kill last 2 mobs

[bitter cedar]

i did get him with level 20 heroes

thats when i started

1 day before it ended

xd

[weak gazelle]

why lumen event?
can just.... play current event?

[spark sinew]

they are, seem to be at HE-6
are you to dying to anything in particular?

[bitter cedar]

i played it when it came out

like a week or so ago

i started not too long ago

1 day before the lumen event ebded

[spark sinew]

oh you have e2

[bitter cedar]

ended

yah

for about 1-2 weeks

[spark sinew]

you can borrow ling for every stage

[bitter cedar]

yah if i get he

[spark sinew]

if you really want to just clear

[bitter cedar]

her

yah im trying to do as much as possible for pulls and shop goods

[weak gazelle]

ignore that for now
focus on current one

[bitter cedar]

so idc how it has to just happen

[spark sinew]

ask in #friend-id for ling friend or even here
clear it with ling for now, then figure out if you want to farm he-7 or he-8

[bitter cedar]

does any of you have maxed ling btw i was lookingfor someone who has her

[spark sinew]

idt i have spots, sorry

[bitter cedar]

i see

so any idea what i can do here\

[weak gazelle]

stuck at HE-6?

[bitter cedar]

yah..

the spam from so early is disgusting

the the civilians ..

id like to shoot em myself

[glass monolith]

Oh man... You won't like HE-7

[glass monolith]

IS rerun at some ponit, you will have your revenge

[bitter cedar]

-3-

[tropic valve]

rerun? IS is permanent

[bitter cedar]

im loading the shotgun

[weak gazelle]

hmm think i can give you the idea for he-6 with your roster

[bitter cedar]

all ears

[tidal sedge]

HE-7 should be pretty easy

You can make most of the enemies kill themselves

When you get there anyways

[vernal lion]

when you play Arknights TD game but HG say we make puzzle too

[bitter cedar]

i still need help with 6 ;3;

[sullen rover]

just ling then spawn camp the dumb 'boss'

[glass monolith]

Boss: Bang bang bang bang
Skadi: ...

[vernal lion]

Boss: You can't hurt me, I'm your ally.
Doctor: Yes, that's why I want you to LEAVE now.

[bitter cedar]

i got a new marksman 6 star with different eyes just now\

has like big crossbow

she good?

[sullen rover]

is she named schwarz

[glass monolith]

But schwarz is heavyshooter not marksman

[sullen rover]

oh wait i meant archetto

[bitter cedar]

yap thats her

[vernal lion]

yea, it's cheeto

[sullen rover]

the cirno brainrot gotten to me

yeah raise her ig

[bitter cedar]

allright also does any of u have max lin?

lin

[proud drift]

Yes max her out

I’m totally not biased

Towards archetto

(She’s decent, but marksmans are kinda obsolete as an archetype(?))

[bitter cedar]

idk im quite new

like 2 weeks into the game

so still learning

[proud drift]

She can help you with a lot of the early game stuff

[sullen rover]

yeah marksman gud for newbs

[proud drift]

But she won’t be as useful later on

Cuz marksmans become stinky

[bitter cedar]

im past early game stuff

im on elite 2 lvl 20 missions xdd

[sullen rover]

wdym i still use her on is3

[proud drift]

You’re 2 weeks into the game

You’re still in baby mode

[proud drift]

I mean more general content

[sullen rover]

is3 IS general content no?

[proud drift]

Well

Would you raise a unit JUST for IS3

When you’re new to the game

[spark sinew]

raise unit just for base

get on that grindset EARLY

[sullen rover]

its not like chetto isnt useful elsewhere when youre new

[proud drift]

She’s useful in all of early stories and stages

Cuz marksman actually nice

When enemy def is low

[spark sinew]

chetto is just generally useful

[proud drift]

Marksmans just become stinky in later general content

[somber falcon]

We still get low stats mobs even now, so they never really went out

[proud drift]

Due to enemies being usually high on DEF

[spark sinew]

don't worry about raising "obsolete" stuff early

[proud drift]

I mean yeah?

[spark sinew]

to "obsolete" them you need way bigger roster than you'll have until like...a long time into the game

[proud drift]

I don’t think archetto is a bad raise

It’s just that

As much as I love her

I wouldn’t say she’s a priority?

She will be good tho for a lot of the content especially on a new account

[spark sinew]

i think you're trying to be unbiased and undersell her a bit

[proud drift]

Maybe

[bitter cedar]

i see

[weak gazelle]

sorry late
boss called me

[proud drift]

I have her maxed and M9 and should mod6 her

Hard to be unbiased

[weak gazelle]

turn out i fail to help you
the operator i try to copy from your roster are too high lvl

[frozen cedar]

the hell is with this marksmen slander

[proud drift]

I didn’t think to use her this event and haven’t played in a while so ig I’m underrating her now

I have 145 levels to do in IS3 so I’ll prob see plenty of chetto usage

[frozen cedar]

cheetos has 666 Attack, she falls off against things with more defense than lets say 500 defense.

you can reduce defense

[tidal sedge]

Fortuna must pretty rough for new accounts

35k hp, 400 def, 60 res, and you're in trouble if she's alive for 35 seconds

Well

[frozen cedar]

HE-6 enemy?

[proud drift]

You can probably surtr her

[tidal sedge]

You could stun cancel the reload

[proud drift]

Maybe?

Maybe not

[frozen cedar]

I assume she dies easily enough to spec alter

[tidal sedge]

But what new player would think of that

[proud drift]

Gg s3 can prob handle her decently well too since she spawns near the end

Pozemka would murder her

But gotta bait shots

[frozen cedar]

new players just randomly press buttons, and don't qualify as thinking

[proud drift]

There’s lots of things honestly that would kill her

Question is how to get her shots out

Alternatively

Mudrock works(?)

[tidal sedge]

I'm thinking e1 dps

[proud drift]

Mudrock ate all her shots for me

So they could borrow mudrock

[frozen cedar]

why? you can get to e2 in 3 days

[tidal sedge]

Any e1 brick with skill active should live a volley

[proud drift]

But my mud is e2 and idk how many “missed”

[spark sinew]

reroll until she misses all 🧠

[tidal sedge]

Would a new player know how to rush an e2 that effectively

You already said you believe they don't think

Anyhow, e1 Cuora has like 1.2k def with s2 sl7 active

[proud drift]

Wonder what the low rarity ccs made for fortuna

[tidal sedge]

Fortuna bullets are only 1400 atk

[proud drift]

I also wonder how well would gravel eat the shots

[tidal sedge]

She could eat like 3 with s2

[proud drift]

E1lv40 gravel with sl7 S1

Has 1.1k def on deployment

With 1.3k hp at full trust

[frozen cedar]

is there a 'new player' struggling with HE-6 because of fortuna, or is this purely hypothetical

[proud drift]

Just wondering how they’d solve it

[vernal lion]

you forget that she has 30% chance to miss

[frozen cedar]

either they wouldn't get that far, or they'd throw bodies at it until it dies

[proud drift]

I’d say always assume worst case scenario

Lmao

[spark sinew]

tbh i think the only way they would struggle with it is them farming it

which you shouldn't

[vernal lion]

that 30% will always be 1 ammo at least

[spark sinew]

so that's on them anyway

[tidal sedge]

You can semi-rely on 1 shot missing

[proud drift]

With my luck I tend to avoid that

[vernal lion]

she got the amount of hp like a boss

[proud drift]

She IS a mini-boss basically

She’s also got massive RES

[vernal lion]

I think you can only borrow Specter or Specter alter to solve this problem

[weak gazelle]

my mudrock can eat all fortuna ammo skill
with 1 layer of shield still intact

[frozen cedar]

get you a woman with massive RES

[tidal sedge]

She's not status immune at least

[vernal lion]

for low rarity clear

[proud drift]

I’d say assume no E2

Rather than low rarity

[vernal lion]

E1 is fine

in the case you need their s2 tho

[weak gazelle]

but again its e2 mudrock
i dunno if e1

[vernal lion]

to cheat dead

[spark sinew]

can always check with support: use e1 squad and borrow a mud

[weak gazelle]

i just log out
have to go soon

[tidal sedge]

Determination?

[vernal lion]

yea

[proud drift]

Why does Lin have 3block

[halcyon adder]

[crisp bolt]

King's Buckler?

[spark sinew]

determination

[hardy fog]

i can only level one op to max
should i prioritize surtr or blemi or passenger

[sullen rover]

surtr

though 90ing isnt very recommended since most of the times getting another good op raised is more impactful

kroos

[deft badger]

cost from lvl1 to e2l0

e2l80 to e2l90 ..

e2l60 to e2l90

[deft badger]

anyway i wouldn't go over e2l60 (e2l0-e2l60 170k lmd)
if that op has a mod depends on the op but they give a lot of stats compared to how much we get from leveling, 30-50lvls in stats for 80k lmd and couple t5 mats

[spark sinew]

anything physical that wants to tank/gets hit is usually a good candidate to level yeah

or if they do a lot of small hits (say exu, but even any marksman)

[turbid badge]

Me need exp

[spark sinew]

raise pallas and scene

[turbid badge]

hauckindu ima swap es for tomimi soon

she almost m3

[spark sinew]

good base combo

[turbid badge]

she m2

im farming m3 rn

[spark sinew]

i will swap you out of friendlist

just use mine

[fast basin]

What % is pallas scene vermeil combo

[spark sinew]

the biggest
16+41+39 to 49

[fast basin]

Total pls, why u make me do math bozo

[woven scaffold]

96->106

[spark sinew]

i was typing it along with explanation but now i don't want to

[fast basin]

Huge, thanks

[spark sinew]

technically pinus do better but there's a cost of 2 CC slots to them

[fast basin]

Pinus is a hassle to manage with cc slave tho

[spark sinew]

eh you just put flametail there

but i fear the worst do you run R6 in CC

[fast basin]

I can squeeze in ft in there, but i don't want to rotate justice knight for the extra%

[spark sinew]

justice knight is not needed

[fast basin]

I dont do r6, shit is garbage

[spark sinew]

she's only 10% for drones so it's about the same as using 20% pp worker

i never bother with JK nowadays

[fast basin]

Im doing the pure weedy eunec fac

So greyalt is on pp most of the time

Idk how the lancet shit works

[turbid badge]

and a dead lancet?

[latent anvil]

You shove eun into cc and a dead lancet in pp

Greyyalt in pp

[grand ginkgo]

how good is the eun in fac strat in comparison

[cosmic thicket]

pretty sure it's just worse

[quick pecan]

@limpid siren @lilac silo @weak gazelle would any of y’all recommend red s1 or can i more or less just use canta s1

still raising insider but probably doing la pluma then idk who next

[lilac silo]

Red s1 is low prio but it helps
Mod2 her if you want too

I have her s1m3

She does the job

[tidal sedge]

whats wrong with that? I just put them with Amiya

[cosmic thicket]

missing out on 2% factory buff...

[tidal sedge]

thats it lmao?

i thought it was something much worse

[cosmic thicket]

(and other CC synergy skills)

the 2% fac buff is a low-hanging fruit

[spark sinew]

2% for each factory mind you

[cosmic thicket]

flametail, eun, WP and PI exodias to name more elaborate things

[spark sinew]

there's a lot of shit you could be missing on, especially without the best combos

[cosmic thicket]

actually does PI exodia need a CC slot i don't remember

[spark sinew]

like Gnosis

[cosmic thicket]

wait yeah dusk

[spark sinew]

both wp and pi need 3 technically

[cosmic thicket]

and yeah gnosis

[spark sinew]

you still use chong in PI, he's just mlynar substitute basically

[cosmic thicket]

oh right forgot about mlynar

[turbid badge]

lol

[tidal sedge]

I dont bother with these combos anymore, I tried following the spreadsheet ones but they forgot to write in that some ops dont work at all without E2 so I was wasting 80% efficiency for a month straight

I just roll with the general units nowadays

[cosmic thicket]

lol

[turbid badge]

lol

[cosmic thicket]

i mean some of the units you would e2 anyway for combat (such as gnosis and kal)

[turbid badge]

youll eventually pay back the roi and some units are still able to use

[cosmic thicket]

mlynar too

[tidal sedge]

I dont use them

way too much stuff going on, I wish someone just made a big video about all the possible base rotations and combos

instead they just post a video per unit or a group of new units per event

[cosmic thicket]

reaperen did but it's like 97.5% correct not 100%

[spark sinew]

we have a big ass spreadsheet with all of them

vid would be way more work, if you want it to actually be applicable to most people

[turbid badge]

??

just use the spreadsheet

[spark sinew]

because people might even ignore stuff like kal and gnosis in combat apparently

[turbid badge]

it gets updated

really fast

[spark sinew]

so it's super hard to make generalized assumptions

[quick pecan]

fails to read then blame people providing info??

en moment

[tidal sedge]

this

[quick pecan]

the spreadsheet is insanely detailed

[tidal sedge]

not enough

[spark sinew]

it's too detailed

[tidal sedge]

I need every possible combo, pre E2 and post for 4+ stars

for every unit

[spark sinew]

it mislead like 10 people into thinking pozy tuye is good

[quick pecan]

a sheet that lists values at e0 / e1 / e2, provides specific team synergies, shows alternatives, and explains how they work isn’t enough??

[tidal sedge]

i was running that for a month, its what I was talking about earlier, nowhere it says not to use at all if pozy isnt E2

[spark sinew]

?

[turbid badge]

umm

[quick pecan]

it literally shows the efficiency at e0, e2, and e2 with specific amounts of durin ops

[tidal sedge]

it shows the bonuses, but doesnt say not to use it at all

[quick pecan]

that’s just failing to read

[turbid badge]

are you just unable to e2 or whats happening

[cosmic thicket]

yeah that's a reading issue

[latent anvil]

[cosmic thicket]

i wonder

[tidal sedge]

yall seem to have reading issues as well, I know that E2 gives additional %s but it doesnt say NOT TO USE THIS COMBO IF SHE ISNT E2

like that it isnt worth it at all

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

Ok than e2 her

[latent anvil]

teta pro what stage to do today

[cosmic thicket]

the screenshots i sent literally explain that the reason why you run pozy team is because her e2 skill does the thing it does

my guy

[quick pecan]

if something is 30% at e1 like a 4* then why would you use the 6* who requires five gold

[turbid badge]

idk i was gonan m3 tomimi until i found fart bird need same material so i wait

[quick pecan]

i would just assume if i’m low investing it then i would run the 30% 4*

that’s conditionless

than a 30% that has a very specific setup

[tidal sedge]

yes but it doesnt say that it completely falls apart if not E2, just that it gives the %s that makes her team the second best combo for TP

[turbid badge]

do u have e2 tuye?

[spark sinew]

yeah it shows the % with assumed e2 (i mean, you can just calc the numbers with e0 yourself and see they're shit)

[tidal sedge]

it doesnt say anywhere what the values look like if shes E1

[spark sinew]

or like, put them together and look at your tp

[cosmic thicket]

you can also just put her in the trading post

realize it's worse than 3 30%'s

[spark sinew]

having very low eff

[cosmic thicket]

and go adios

[turbid badge]

yeah you can literally see the % when you put her in tp

[tidal sedge]

thats what I noticed and why I stopped

[cosmic thicket]

that's bc unless stated, 5*'s and up have no change to base skill at e1

an exception is like reed alter or smth

[turbid badge]

i guess your best bet if you want to improve base is to read threw the sheet and see which you have raised and are going to raise

[quick pecan]

i also have to question

[tidal sedge]

i'll wait for a full video, too much stuff there to comprehend

[quick pecan]

why this is an issue

bc pozy is one of the best ops in the game

so u would e2 anyway

[cosmic thicket]

it's a reading comprehension issue

[turbid badge]

what if it was a video scrolling threw the spreadsheet

[cosmic thicket]

even if they're afk guide user i heard s1m3 is a good afk skill

[spark sinew]

i hear loud steps i think it's cirno, telling you to also raise schwarz

[tidal sedge]

if it explained in detail every comp I wouldnt mind

[turbid badge]

but the spreadsheet already explains why its good

and details by the %

it should be faster anyways

[quick pecan]

you can look at peter’s youtube for some nice base analysis stuff

but idk if he has one on pozy comp specifically

[tidal sedge]

I watched it but it doesnt cover everything

[turbid badge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit have fun

[quick pecan]

teta they don’t want to read

smh

[turbid badge]

theres pictures of operators

[cosmic thicket]

i mentioned like 20 minutes ago that reaparen made a video on it but it's not fully correct

[turbid badge]

use text to speech

[spark sinew]

angle, did i add you

[cosmic thicket]

aintnoway bro also got the selective reading disease

[spark sinew]

i want p6 chong

[latent anvil]

teta which anni to do

[spark sinew]

if you have spot

[turbid badge]

idk

[spark sinew]

vanished without a trace 😢

[turbid badge]

If you want videos just check out PETERYR and Reapren

[spark sinew]

it's ok i'll cope with mine

[turbid badge]

P1

defecti-

[latent anvil]

oh i have spot

[spark sinew]

bully

[latent anvil]

mine is p6 too

oh but sl5

[latent anvil]

is this good enuf

[spark sinew]

actual heresy

[turbid badge]

that defective

[spark sinew]

you're lucky we're not in is-station, people would tear you to shreds

[turbid badge]

i heard u need to raise spot

[latent anvil]

[pallid veldt]

i think my spot might also be sl5

[latent anvil]

spot is not that good

20 levels and sl7 is not winning me a run

might win other peoples runs but not for me

[turbid badge]

wow swire alter better than degen in gnosis combo still pog

[spark sinew]

degen is just stinky

[turbid badge]

yes it is

[latent anvil]

[tidal sedge]

you should raise all 3 stars and below to max, its cheap and takes less than 2 weeks, will help you until very late game

[pallid veldt]

idk about very late game pal

[turbid badge]

u heard him Wgz

[latent anvil]

very late game

oh no

[pallid veldt]

more like

early mid game

[cosmic thicket]

you should give spot more levels for his paradox sim

[turbid badge]

spot carry all is

tbh

cheap dog good to pick up in is4

[tidal sedge]

they can be used until chapter 11 late, in chapter 12 they cant be relied on too much

[turbid badge]

or pick up popuk

[latent anvil]

i have beaten every single stage the game has available rn

[quick pecan]

he’s e2 75 rn

[pallid veldt]

every chapter 11 player has better defenders than spot

[latent anvil]

no bruh

i take cardigan

[quick pecan]

gave all exp to insider e2

[turbid badge]

why

[pallid veldt]

cardigan is pretty baller yeah

[latent anvil]

cardigan is so op

[turbid badge]

spot better

can heal others

[spark sinew]

would probably work better than mine

[latent anvil]

cardigan is too op

[cosmic thicket]

cardigan > spot bc i used her in h11-4 and h12-4 but i have not used spot in like any stages past ch10

[spark sinew]

no way 5 levels> 5 pots

[quick pecan]

9dp chong very cool

cheaper than my fuckin p5 elysium

[pallid veldt]

lol p5

[quick pecan]

[pallid veldt]

point and laugh

[latent anvil]

i even take reserve defender over spot

tbh

[quick pecan]

i know

[pallid veldt]

ok thats pushing it

[turbid badge]

???

[pallid veldt]

but

[turbid badge]

wtf

[quick pecan]

i die of cringe everyday

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

that pushing it wgz!

cuz is4 and is2 spot free

is3 they make him expensive but i still take him

[spark sinew]

spot is easily worth 1 hope

[pallid veldt]

wat

[quick pecan]

can you believe in my like 300+ chong pulls i got no other sui siblings

[latent anvil]

spot is not worth 1 hope

[quick pecan]

had to spark nian

[latent anvil]

[spark sinew]

you will eat shit with reserve defender on your typical starts

[quick pecan]

[tidal sedge]

spot is the second best 3star for any IS after Kroos

[pallid veldt]

yeah and its not like 3*s are good in any IS

[latent anvil]

i went 550 without that, its normal

[quick pecan]

wtf

omega copium deluxe

[latent anvil]

it was on ling banner

[pallid veldt]

thats like saying greyy is the second best flinger in IS

behind rosm

[turbid badge]

oh crap gotta raise

[pallid veldt]

skull

bro i havent logged into AK in like 2 weeks

[spark sinew]

greyy is better than ros tho 🏃‍♂️

[pallid veldt]

time to check on my spot

[quick pecan]

real and factual

[latent anvil]

and im still taking calicos over greyy any day

[pallid veldt]

nvm my spot is e1 55

he is cool

[spark sinew]

oh it's not cake

[latent anvil]

i literally only used greyy once, which was on mech menace for drones

i learned that he couldnt hit droens

[turbid badge]

didnt we get a ansel skin

i need it

[spark sinew]

why tf disa says spot is bad though

[turbid badge]

the one in cn

[latent anvil]

[pallid veldt]

man fuck this shit im buying aurora from store

[spark sinew]

actually behind the times

[turbid badge]

he good start i heard

[latent anvil]

if ur gonna quit, at least go broke before you quit true

[spark sinew]

greyy is mostly being shilled for is4

[quick pecan]

we live in a society

[spark sinew]

cause arts damage and slow are not like...that important in is3

[quick pecan]

spot is base slave to me

[turbid badge]

wtf where ur spot e2 skin

[spark sinew]

to put it lightly

[latent anvil]

so why is everyone advocating spot

and then

[pallid veldt]

idfk he sucks

[latent anvil]

nobodyh has spot raised

[pallid veldt]

i have him raised and i hate him

[spark sinew]

mine is maxed

[latent anvil]

yea he sucks

[tidal sedge]

same

[pallid veldt]

i am a big gummy > spot advocator

not in IS

but like

[turbid badge]

everywhere else

[latent anvil]

gmuuy

[pallid veldt]

gmuuy

[latent anvil]

teta pro do flooded seashoe

[turbid badge]

gnuuy

[pallid veldt]

is d0 izumik hard

can i beat

is it harder than CW S 4 CM

[latent anvil]

i coudlnt beat it

[turbid badge]

that ones old

[latent anvil]

i was on calm seas and i thought goldenglow could solo it

so i went in and then goldenglow got oneshot

oops

[turbid badge]

jack ma

[spark sinew]

super easy

draft ng if you go in blind tho

[quick pecan]

@spark sinew Angle#3651

[spark sinew]

all that i'll say

[turbid badge]

wtf

[pallid veldt]

rare NG IS3 appearance

[latent anvil]

its fun

[turbid badge]

why the number

[pallid veldt]

deep cog unironically hard

[turbid badge]

moving

[latent anvil]

i gotta ask rain why number is 2

[quick pecan]

man i need one more hung mastery

[spark sinew]

adding you in a moment

[quick pecan]

i’ve used s1 maybe twice

but still

[latent anvil]

bouta just edit the nubmer to be one line

[quick pecan]

[turbid badge]

this so expensive ima bout to change one gold to exp

[pallid veldt]

fart ooth

is she the worst 6* sniper

[quick pecan]

not even e2

bricked

[turbid badge]

soon

i just need to 80

[spark sinew]

she's like
25+10+7 prod

archetto is worse
marskman ew

[turbid badge]

probably

[pallid veldt]

nah it might be like W

[turbid badge]

woops wrong reply

[pallid veldt]

actually W is kinda baller

[turbid badge]

w good thi

can glorypack

[quick pecan]

yesterday i was happy i got spuria

only to realize 5* spuria buff targets are ass

[turbid badge]

same how did u read my feelings

[quick pecan]

[spark sinew]

depends where, W definitely fell off a cliff (although she wasn't ever that good)

[quick pecan]

igneus gonna convince me to e2 toddifons

just for spuria use

[turbid badge]

she not e2 alrd?

i guess u e2 the other besieger

[spark sinew]

just downgrade fia to 5* in your eyes

[quick pecan]

i literally got her two days ago

[turbid badge]

Totter

[glass monolith]

(writes it down in background)

[quick pecan]

i will probably just buff meteorite or some dumb shit idk

[spark sinew]

sent req

[tidal sedge]

she works with her, would Chalter work then too?

since shes ammo based as well

[spark sinew]

ok, also added a remark for teta in-game

[quick pecan]

idk if igneus was using s1 or s2

[spark sinew]

s2

[quick pecan]

added

[spark sinew]

he was talking about ammo

[tidal sedge]

S1 doesnt make sense with the stun so I'd say S2

[fast basin]

Who's ideal target for spuria?

[spark sinew]

bench

second best target though....

[fast basin]

I heard toddifons good for her, but who else?

[spark sinew]

i think numbers wise i heard it was fia? but that assumes you have fia s3 firing already and you need to buff her for some reason

[tidal sedge]

Fia works? alright

[spark sinew]

toddi is just 5* players talking about it, i'm not sure it's even that good

[quick pecan]

yeah this is a 5* knights context

[fast basin]

How about schwarz

[quick pecan]

if you look at 6* rosa is a nice buff target with s2

pls do not use s3 it will be cringe

[glass monolith]

She makes heaviest enemy taunt which make god damn Goldenglow focus something already instead causing random explosions all over the place

[spark sinew]

you want gg to focus mobs though

[tidal sedge]

from what I can tell, any sniper with ammo or infinite duration skills are her best targets, slow attacking snipers are second best because she will troll them

If you including 6*s: Fartooth, Schwarz, Rosa are decent if you want to force Spuria use

[fast basin]

Makes typhon sounds good for her target no? Cus she attacks so goddamn slow

[tidal sedge]

yes

[turbid badge]

umm

[spark sinew]

typhon is ammo based

[quick pecan]

i just cope we get someone who adds status resistance for existing and not tied to healing like therapist

[latent anvil]

how are you the same broke as me

[fast basin]

Does fartooth atk slow enough?

[latent anvil]

[quick pecan]

that would reduce her stun to .9s

in which case she would be a lot more viable

[spark sinew]

i'm not sure why would you buff her
or do you mean s2 for some reason

[fast basin]

Faden said ammo based

[turbid badge]

u got fia, fartoot, id assume typhon is decent too

[turbid badge]

yes she attack slow

[tidal sedge]

Breeze skill

[spark sinew]

buffing atkspd of ammo based stuff is not worth at all generally, no?

[turbid badge]

to who

[quick pecan]

to spuria + buff target

[latent anvil]

teta pro reed alta or ines nstsxt

[glass monolith]

Well faster you waste that ammo faster you get skill up again

[turbid badge]

ask help

[latent anvil]

[quick pecan]

idk how u would make that without powercreeping all therapists tho

[tidal sedge]

You deliver the damage faster, but you can achieve similar effectiveness if you buy the ammo op more time to unload via blocking/cc

[tidal sedge]

Typhon has good skill cycles, better than Rosa, so she will be up and about soon, Spuria will be up too, keep in mind that its not a good combo, but a workable one

This is also why I think Fia s3 isn't a great recipient either

Because you could just likely stall instead as it's an infinite duration skill

[spark sinew]

yeah i don't like fia as well

[tidal sedge]

no one is, they are all subjects to rng

[turbid badge]

lol then just wait for a karlan sniper

[spark sinew]

spuria is just awkward

[glass monolith]

At least you can slap healing for Stun duration reduction on Fia S3

[tidal sedge]

Well no. The stun occurs after the sniper shoots

[turbid badge]

gnosis gives karlan status res for existing

[quick pecan]

we cope for steward alter the true spuria synergy

[tidal sedge]

So ops with long enough interval can suffer nothing from stun

[turbid badge]

adnachiel or steward

[fast basin]

30% atk with 20% self stun

[tidal sedge]

It's just a lot of the eligible snipers don't really care for Spuria's buff

Or have equivalent or better alternatives

[fast basin]

Im thinking of adding status resist, but might as well bring aak + shining if gonna add more ops

[tidal sedge]

they still lose out on attacks, and they will dps less if they arent lucky with rng, since their skill will run out

[spark sinew]

it's always the question of "would i be better off adding another operator instead"

and...yeah

[turbid badge]

the ammo skills dont even like the aspd she gives that much

[spark sinew]

you would be

[tidal sedge]

Spuria needing a medic is also an additional nuisance

[spark sinew]

eh you would just helidrop her wouldn't you

[tidal sedge]

Spuria 🤝 Fia

you can Skalter them both

I suppose.

[turbid badge]

i would rather just have skalter and someone else than spuria

[tidal sedge]

Kinda wish she had -redeploy talent instead of emaciated version of Aak talent in that case

yea we are just talking about what works, not what is good

It'd make her s1 make way more sense

[fast basin]

Whats fia atk interval

On s3

[tidal sedge]

Remove her stun and shes an average unit, nothing else needed, already worse than Aak as she should be as a 5*

[spark sinew]

atkspd buffs are very strong

even if they're as limited as spuria's (only snipers)

[tidal sedge]

2.8 sec

[spark sinew]

HG is super stingy with them for a reason

[turbid badge]

lol

angelina module

[tidal sedge]

2.8 base without module. 2.54~ with mod3

[fast basin]

With the +40 aspd fia would hit lower than 1.8s?

[tidal sedge]

1.86~ with Spuria buff

[fast basin]

Thats with mod?

[tidal sedge]

and module

[fast basin]

Oh, should work just fine then

[tidal sedge]

It'd also be nice if Spuria could work on casters

We have Windflit for that

She could have been a decent GG buffer

[latent anvil]

i fixed it

[tidal sedge]

If Fortuna becomes an op maybe she'll be good with Spuria considering their relationship

[glass monolith]

Give me wheelchair ambriel as operator already

[crisp bolt]

Conviction too strong

[tidal sedge]

Lemuen is probably gonna be 6* hunter

[peak cloak]

give me Yelena as playable op, i miss her ):

[spark sinew]

destiny collab, surely

[crisp bolt]

Bungie is imploding. No way that's happening anymore

[limpid siren]

Not as worth it anymore as enemy hp inflates

She doesn’t secure as many kills as she did in the past, i find myself just using s2 pretty much all the time

[limpid siren]

Better numbers is always nice tbh

[tidal sedge]

Friston with Skalter s2 can't die to rocks in HE-8

Funny

Robots are such fun

Getting a stable auto on it wasn't as hard as I expected

[limpid siren]

I found it easier to have fewer ops for the auto than when i had a full squad

Full squad kept tempting me to use every deploy slot and overcomplicate things

[tidal sedge]

I had a similar thing. My first clear was scuffed and I only partially understood what was going on

Trying to optimize got me to pay more attention to how the map flows and plays which made it much easier

[tidal sedge]

Just take 3 frd and rotate on rock catching duty, heex8 will work similarly im guessing

Since no boss

I just used guardians or self healing ops to block rocks

Works too

[south bone]

The real boss is the crumbling masonry that the gardener activated

[jovial nest]

I hope never

Bungie needs no quarter

[scarlet fulcrum]

I used like 8 deploy slot or smt, its like habit cant avoid that

[jovial nest]

Crumbling masonry my ass. He installed Indiana Jones' rock traps

[weak gazelle]

uhh...
enemy spawn & spawn location decided by map or boss or both (HE-8)?
aware there is rng about it

[limpid siren]

think it's boss

[weak gazelle]

hmmm
its just i cant understand why my auto sometime fail solely because enemy spawn in the location where my og run they didnt spawn

[latent anvil]

intern-kun wrote some buggy code, caused the seeding to sprout disaster

[south bone]

huh

i thought the auto-deploy saves ur rng?

or just defend both lanes

[limpid siren]

it does

but

[foggy grove]

My auto has 2 variation

[limpid siren]

frame drops can shift how the the rng seed consumes the entries

[foggy grove]

[limpid siren]

like

[foggy grove]

Both not failing tho

[limpid siren]

to try and keep it simple, an rng seed is just a long list of different numbers

[fringe jackal]

I wonder if pause deploy makes the autos more reliable

[limpid siren]

these numbers are used to determine the outcome of this or that effect (e.g. dodge chance)

[limpid siren]

no

[fringe jackal]

Oh no

[jovial nest]

the secret to having the desyncs not affect your auto is keeping it as brainless, as simple, as AFK as possible

the less variables of strict timing the better

[fringe jackal]

If I never see my auto fail it's Schrodinger's auto

[jovial nest]

also make sure you're not using some abilities that might slow the boss down

[limpid siren]

someone like greyy calls rng three times for every attack

[weak gazelle]

this is the cause
the bottom mob spawn when my og run they didnt spawn

[latent anvil]

very strange

[limpid siren]

i think greyy is the issue

[jovial nest]

nah

that's just desyncs making the boss' skill of summoning extra enemies change

[limpid siren]

how do you think desyncs happen

greyy calls for rng three times per attack

[jovial nest]

frame drops. Inevitable sometimes

[karmic glade]

yes the top and bottom helidrop are random, but location are fixed

[jovial nest]

so you just have to have your auto be able to solve BOTH locations

[limpid siren]

desyncs happen because the order of consumption for rng calls shifts

[south bone]

if the gardener spawn another civilian, where would they spawn?

[weak gazelle]

this one is normal og run

i will just take desync and frame drop again as a cause

[jovial nest]

just have your auto have a solution to the bottom enemy

even if they don't spawn in it

[weak gazelle]

yeah seem like i have to re-strat again for this one
a stable one

[jovial nest]

which is why for reference, the Ling solo makes her look permanently down as the solution for the bot spawns while the dragons deal with the rest

[weak gazelle]

and seem like greyy rng contribute to the auto fail too

[tidal sedge]

I'm glad Insider doesn't do anything in my auto then

With the spawns being consistent for me. I thought the spawns were determined at start of stage

But HG isn't so nice it seems

[turbid badge]

i always have a dragon in bottom yea

didnt know spawns can be randomized

thought bottom one was always there

[limpid siren]

my auto looks pretty similar to arkhy's

but i run robin instead of greyy

i have more units, but no extras that call rng

actually ig there's texas in mine

but

i think the real culprit is greyy

[fickle ravine]

Should I avoid this map on emergency mode?