strategy

[proud drift]

I dunno how good ines or qb are for this

[full finch]

but my roster is super stacked so idk

[proud drift]

but... I think it should be doable?

[verbal badger]

like i have these guys i can also raise with event shop if they will help with clear

since the extra orundum cap is neat

[full finch]

bruh

mountain, mudrock, eyja all want E2/M3

[proud drift]

thorns would be insane too

[full finch]

at least do mountain

[polar crane]

penance> mud

[proud drift]

eyja doesn't really need it

since he has gg

he can keep gg

[verbal badger]

ik, ive gotten those in the last like 2 weeks

so didnt have the resources

[proud drift]

but eyja would help

[full finch]

gg has poor burst

but ig qiubai exist

[proud drift]

they're interchangeable

[full finch]

they aren't

but gg usual better for general content

[proud drift]

they are outside of hard content

you only really use eyja s3 for harder content

otherwise you just need arts caster for which you use s2 eyja

which can be interchanged with gg s2

alternatively gg s3 can often be better due to having global range

[full finch]

eyja S2

meh

[tidal sedge]

Hm. DP drain mechanics again.

[full finch]

nothing a few flags can't handle, I'm sure

[tidal sedge]

Invisible guy who slows natural dp gen sounds funny

Kinda surprised none of the new ops are a vg with these sorts of abilities and mechanics

[foggy grove]

canta on rate up fr

[proud drift]

are you saying HG is shilling scene again

[tidal sedge]

Oh. Canta rate-up. Now it makes more sense

[proud drift]

or wait can canta hit invis or is just enough to deal with the issue

[spark sinew]

canta can't

[foggy grove]

they also want you to shill insider
since there is ranged enemy that target statue

[tidal sedge]

She can't. But you could opt to muscle through the reduction via vg dp gen

[spark sinew]

or you build canta and are more inclined to pull for ines in that scam 33% banner later

[tidal sedge]

Or borrow/use an Ines for both dp gen and killing the invis guy

[proud drift]

I'm assuming can't deploy on top of invis guy

[turbid badge]

l

[tidal sedge]

Some maps will probably be that convenient, but I expect at least one map will put them on banned tiles for at least some amount of time

[full finch]

use ines

[spark sinew]

use tsukinogi

[full finch]

wtf tsukinogi usage

impossible

[tidal sedge]

Use Totter

[spark sinew]

you know what agent will shine here

puzzle

🏃‍♂️

[proud drift]

should jsut give rosmontis a module

that allows her to deploy pillars on undeployable tiles finally

so she can actually see more use

[turbid badge]

what kind of niche is that

its sure something..

[radiant plinth]

blegh

[scarlet fulcrum]

Atleast remove sp lock on s3 amd gibe sp related stuff like dusk

[scarlet fulcrum]

wait for 2024 limited, limited knights

[pseudo epoch]

Fiammetta S3 for Rest Avenue annihilation, any thoughts?

[radiant plinth]

despair

[glass monolith]

Those CN weebs are some ascended race of players

[radiant plinth]

7/13 are limited wow

[scarlet fulcrum]

Too many check there, its impressive with new record tho

🛐

[radiant plinth]

need..

400...

more strat tmw

[glass monolith]

400 limited operators?

[scarlet fulcrum]

2024 trust

[turbid badge]

wow Ak go bankrupt so fast

[scarlet fulcrum]

Use her to camp top, just use usual setup for rest

[latent anvil]

oh no

[turbid badge]

there will be w and rosmontis bundle to get both for 29.99!!

[radiant plinth]

breh

[turbid badge]

cobra trying to reduce the leaks?

wat pots u missing

[pseudo epoch]

top where?

[gray stone]

Free limited 6 star selector for 5th anni

[latent anvil]

teta pro gimme ur w

[gray stone]

(Yato and Ash included)

[turbid badge]

Guys how long u think we get our destiny collab cuz it be going downhill

[turbid badge]

me no w

[scarlet fulcrum]

Facing right, ur lane mostly safe if u kill aoe thread mage faster, who are ur other ops?

[pseudo epoch]

I'm just starting a plan

[scarlet fulcrum]

Krooster? Nice

[proud drift]

Fia mostly solo'd top right for me

though I still had thorns there to hold any low hp go-thrus

[pseudo epoch]

can she solo middle facing left?

[proud drift]

no don't face her left

left is a waste

right middle she can deal with a lot of threats

only would have to deal with bigger guys then

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ur concern is aoe mage while atk on linked allies, piper on left weak af and easily countered

[radiant plinth]

blasphemy, she still got stunned

[proud drift]

I had fia shooting there

with Skalter in front to shoot the beam down

[radiant plinth]

i hate this gam

[proud drift]

sorry she wasn't shooting that far

she was shooting one back

but it was good enough

[turbid badge]

yeiw

[scarlet fulcrum]

If only that splitboxing is arts

[vernal lion]

E0 player's favorite last words...

[proud drift]

Fia S3 covers this much from where i placed

so only one guy wouldn't get hit which... wouldn't be a problem for you

since the rest are dead

[proud drift]

no

bad

stinky

poop

that side is a non-issue

completely ignore it

[scarlet fulcrum]

Left doesnt matter dude

[proud drift]

you don't put anything there

[pseudo epoch]

Nono I mean do enemies go where the x is?

[proud drift]

no it's a wall

[scarlet fulcrum]

To stair

[pseudo epoch]

lmao that makes things easier for me

[scarlet fulcrum]

The one with shining arrow

[pseudo epoch]

so just a good lane holder in the middle?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah and proper linked ur setup

[proud drift]

two lane holders, something like a dreadnought guard middle facing left

[vernal lion]

and the best one for middle lane is CY

[proud drift]

oh

sorry

not dreadnought

a 2block guard

like ch'en

or irene

ch'en worked really well for me

[pseudo epoch]

could I put a defender behind the dreadnought guard?

I'm ch'en less

[proud drift]

red arrow for lords facing right

blue arrow for a 2block guard facing left

top lane I had blaze in front of thorns

bottom I had lapp with saria in front

[pseudo epoch]

i don't have thorns

[proud drift]

QB will probably work if you have her

[pseudo epoch]

nope

[radiant plinth]

more grind tmw

[proud drift]

or some other lord

[pseudo epoch]

the only other one I have is Arene

[proud drift]

you can prob put irene and face her down ig

she'd be emergency block in case blaze misses something

you also want your laser like this

I used skalter at top facing down since she was skaltering fia

and someone with some self-heal and maybe to bait attacks at bottom facing left

I used mountain

gummy should ideally work though I'm not sure now mostly because iirc stun tile fuck goes there as well

and since I have GG S2 facing right on middle, she kills the stun tile

[pseudo epoch]

stun tile?

hm I'll probably think about this later

thanks for the help bud

[proud drift]

these very funny and wholesome spawns of satan

[vernal lion]

they prio op in the line of ray

[proud drift]

you also have catgirl gf spawn at 350

but she's mostly squishy

so you should be able to handle her

[vernal lion]

so op can block them without being prio by them, only when no ray goes through that op

[turbid badge]

ok lin still good

time to see f2

[pseudo epoch]

this is what I'm thinking of

may need some changes

[deft badger]

u don't even need that laser

if that's what i would do xD

@spark sinew that works fine

[spark sinew]

could work better

[deft badger]

see works fine

[spark sinew]

ok i see lumen

so you're not even using this tile for anything better than fia

[deft badger]

do u mean i should place her where lumen is?

[spark sinew]

you? not really, if this clears it's fine

someone else that doesn't have the rest of the squad as good as you though? yeah, fia on lumen's spot will cover more, and spawncamps more enemies in general afaik

[deft badger]

i have thorns there one tile in front of hoshi

works fine 😄

as long u have someone on bot that's going to take the other caster on him its all fine

[spark sinew]

you already can't max executor

[deft badger]

not having t4 aand t5 mats doesn't mean that i can't

was just thinking is that m3 worth the mats

since i can build them

[signal granite]

Do it for that 3 sec

[deft badger]

getting a heal boost as well

after all the atk does apply even if he doesn't consume ammo

[spark sinew]

crafting without 100% crafter

damn whales

lumen s3m3 is okay but i question it heavily here

before exalter whom you want to build, and eyja right after

[deft badger]

that's what i am saying its kinder expensive 😄

[glass monolith]

Who cares about 100% when Ceylon just slaps x3 byprods on t5 craft, refuses to elaborate and hugs Schwartz plush in dorm

[tropic valve]

A Schwarz is all Ceylon needs

[deft badger]

wanted to get my self schwarz and forgot to pull

wanted to do yesterday but it was already over

i need some snipers...

[tropic valve]

I'm so sorry

[spark sinew]

"i need some snipers"

[valid kindle]

can you use CC10 NG doll stall strat for H10-1?

[tropic valve]

you don't really need to because he doesn't have CC10 stats, but yes

[valid kindle]

oh don't need to?

[tropic valve]

actually I don't think it's permastall in H10-1?

the permanstall required an ASPD tag on Manfred

without ASPD in H10-1, I think he moves in between each hit

[turbid badge]

omg raise

also why fia e0

what is this base pull?

[spark sinew]

??

[tropic valve]

did you know Fia has the highest theoretical DPS against Big Sad Lock

raise her

[glass monolith]

Did you theorize this shit has like 800 DEF which will apply to each hit of S2?

[noble pewter]

Cirno recommending raising a sniper that's not schwarz

[tropic valve]

I'm a Sniper enjoyer

Schwarz just happens to be my most enjoyed Sniper

[spark sinew]

find proviso and raise her instead
fia is already peak performance at e0|

[lapis hornet]

sniper gamers p funny man

look at this sniper gamer's most enjoyed snipers

[tropic valve]

Penance can hit faraway enemies so you could say she's a Sniper

[spark sinew]

opinions on executor are so wildly different

people who call him "just another laneholder, don't pull if you have at least 2 others"

[dark glade]

and ppl who keep boasting his arkrec record

[spark sinew]

aka bad and good people 🏃‍♂️

[somber falcon]

#help momen

[lapis hornet]

I mean

he's just another laner

[cunning iris]

you never can have enough laneholders

[lapis hornet]

with bigger numbers

a very good one to be sure

but most ppl saving for eyjaberry so no one hyping this mf

[spark sinew]

i don't mind hyping eyja

limited and all

[dark glade]

i dont think ppl hyping eyjaberry either

[cunning iris]

isnt she just another healer-

[spark sinew]

but i see way more hype for typhon, which uhh

[lapis hornet]

yeah the typhon hype is p wild

[spark sinew]

i mean sure, she sweeps the trash with s2...

[dark glade]

one guy even 'ask' if he should pull on eyjaberry or not when he has lumen it doesnt end well

[little orchid]

i mean. if you already have perf, ptilo, warf, honey, ng, shining and lumen raised to e2, eyja adds basically nothing of value

[lapis hornet]

ele mitigation

which might or might not be relevant

feels kinda like ng at launch, depends on future enemy design

🤷‍♀️

[little orchid]

that would be a real dick move by hg, if true

[spark sinew]

she's still an upgrade
both in afk and in s3

[tropic valve]

I feel like Typhon looks more impactful than Fedex on paper, but I don't want to jump to conclusions without testing myself

[lapis hornet]

yeah for afk she's probably gonna be the default pick for most players?

[spark sinew]

how much do you need that upgrade? i mean the cost of missing her is high because of her being limited

[tropic valve]

Typhon average DPS just really good, and I think average DPS is a fairly good metric

[lapis hornet]

I'm kinda indifferent to both typhon and fedex tbh

[spark sinew]

that s3 heal is disgusting, for a global range,

[little orchid]

idk, ptilo + more dps feels like better afk

[lapis hornet]

from what I've seen of cn stuff tho feels like fedex bit more relevant? think drails used to think higher of fedex too but he hasn't played in ages

ptilo p ass for afk tbh

she doesn't even have an afk skill

[little orchid]

she buffs afk skills, though

[spark sinew]

what kinda afk skills are you using

[lapis hornet]

the sp thing usually irrelevant

[spark sinew]

they're either offensive recovery or infinite, no?

[dark glade]

from what i see now ppl just using degen as guard (maybe just the hype too)

[little orchid]

horn s1, ifrit, bag, eyja s2 etc

[lapis hornet]

doesnt rly matter

[tropic valve]

he probably has more arkrec entries; I personally don't prioritize arkrec entries much but I admit it's a reasonable metric to prioritize if that's something you care about and if so then Fedex being able to self-sustain matters a lot

[dusty cedar]

Does eyjaberry S1 work like Perfumer talent?

[somber falcon]

0.3 sp is 😴

[lapis hornet]

afk isn't about milking a bit of extra dmg it's about having enough to be comfortable

unless you're doing low step and ptilo also sucks for low step so

[tropic valve]

but Typhon S2 isn't just an afk skill, it also has enough damage to kill big waves

[scarlet fulcrum]

Arkrec for general content i sleep

[lapis hornet]

idrc about arkrec entries

unless some dude has like 3 entries then I'll be asking myself if he's good at all lol

but you can't even be sure cause for the longest time stainless had like no entries but he seems to be doing better now

[somber falcon]

Haven't seen anything abt it but unless it's a perma skill it's technically different

[spark sinew]

s1 is perma

[somber falcon]

Ah ok

[dusty cedar]

Infinite duraiton

[tropic valve]

arkrec is also noisily correlated with popularity; if people like an op, they will spend more effort optimizing with them, and that results in more entries

[somber falcon]

It's similar then ig

[scarlet fulcrum]

welp yeah arckrec all about lowest number in each category

[spark sinew]

do you mean if it heals enmity or?

it does

[dusty cedar]

Yeah that

Doesn't that make her the only medic to heal elemental dmg from enmities, summons, etc?

[foggy grove]

only heals ele dmg for enmity

[dusty cedar]

Which are becoming pretty standard lately?

[tropic valve]

there are probably lots of entries that could be optimized with Magallan (in the Lingless category) but not enough Magallan fans to try

[lapis hornet]

man mag clears are too crazy for most ppl

[foggy grove]

no hp healing

[lapis hornet]

everyone just rushes to use ling now

[tropic valve]

yeah I don't have the brain to do mag clears

but I can appreciate how cool they are

[scarlet fulcrum]

need a lot effort tbh

[spark sinew]

ED is in a weird state still
for the most part it doesn't really matter

[tropic valve]

elemental damage is pretty polarized, like in D15 Ubi the flowers do so much nervous impairment that your op can straight up go from 1 stun to the next without a chance to be healed or activate skill no amount of Wandering Medics would prevent that

[spark sinew]

but i still wouldn't skip eyja, unless you're fine with doing a lot more work in the future for some stages

while eyja player just presses s3

[lapis hornet]

yeah but imagine you actually mitigate 75% of the dmg now you're not one shot anymore

idr eyja's numbers off hand

but I imagine it's smth like 50% at least, probs more with future module

[spark sinew]

s2 is the best skill for that and it still doesn't really help vs flowers in is3

although it was just a calc with her base stats

there's a much of weird relics and whatever that will make it easier for eyja

[tropic valve]

from what I hear even Eyjaberry can't prevent nervous impairment on Ubi, but she's still a good pull in spite of that on the basis of her non-elemental healing

[spark sinew]

(still not worth it over other options i feel)

like mosti/suzu but you can argue that medic vouchers are worse than sup

[tropic valve]

Mosti/Suzu my favorite Ubi counters

[spark sinew]

my favorite is survivor yato

[dusty cedar]

-100 IQ: Earthspirit with module

[spark sinew]

it feels so good to actually kill them

[tropic valve]

Earthspirit unironically good for that

S2 persists while stunned

[spark sinew]

stun doesn't interrupt her?

huh

[tropic valve]

the issue is how much she'll contribute on all the other maps

[dusty cedar]

Technically because the stun doesn't stop the skill duration...

[tropic valve]

ok she's good for Precarious Defense and Nethersea Brand Land as well, so that's 3 maps at least

[spark sinew]

that means that you used 2 vouchers for her on f3

[dusty cedar]

When the rng hits you hard

[foggy grove]

es doesn't attack like suzu
so stun doesn't interrupt

[tropic valve]

I mean, Suzu S3 also doesn't get interrupted

[somber falcon]

Just take ethan instead if you want cheap perma slow

[foggy grove]

ye as in they are the same case

[tropic valve]

Suzu is basically strictly better

[foggy grove]

[spark sinew]

ethan won't work on all 3 of the above stages

[tropic valve]

Ethan does get stunned unlike those 2

[spark sinew]

also spec vouchers are super duper good

[dusty cedar]

-50 IQ: Use Blacknight S2 for ""perma"" cc

[tropic valve]

he still applies a bit of movespeed reduction while stunned due to module, but it's rarely enough

[somber falcon]

Still better than 0.8s slow every 1.8s

[tropic valve]

could work, but you need some crazy relics to achieve perma there

[dusty cedar]

Indeed

[spark sinew]

ES is every 1.4 seconds

that said, idk what's the default duration of slow

[somber falcon]

0.8s

[spark sinew]

so es applies it every 1.13 seconds

oh...

the module also changes 0.8 to 1.2

1.2+0.33 > 1.4

[limpid siren]

executor has about 3x the records typhon has

but this is for a slice of content average players don't give a shit about

[spark sinew]

so it's just perma slow indeed

[limpid siren]

low op stuff

[foggy grove]

i heard es module has bug

is it fixed now?

[limpid siren]

executor is pretty hard smacked out of most high end cc-style content too, by the nature of enmity vs bloated enemy statlines

[spark sinew]

executor doesn't seem to suffer from penance syndrome though, he is still potent in non-low op

[dusty cedar]

Who can cover Execalter's weaknesses in low ops?

[lapis hornet]

the thing is if you don't tryhard the game's difficulty isn't creeping at the same speed as unit creep so it really feels like anyone that comes out is whatever, okay you do damage and you do damage, next?

[limpid siren]

sure

totally valid

[dusty cedar]

Besides eyjaberry and skalter

[limpid siren]

exec/mlynar is a common duo

don't try to regen him, waste of time

[dusty cedar]

You mean meta unit+mlynar duo?

[limpid siren]

no i mean exec and mlynar duo specifically

for low op stuff

[dusty cedar]

Mlynar duo applies to literally anyone I can think of

[limpid siren]

sure and executor is coming for the records

[lapis hornet]

yeah exe mlynar sounds more appealing than gavial mlynar actually

[limpid siren]

the top 2 5* dps units are a reaper and a liberator

[lapis hornet]

like gavial mlynar was so hyped before it came out but I kinda never used it for low op

[limpid siren]

now we have the 6*s and you guys get to fully enjoy what i've been playing since DH

[dusty cedar]

I did, it's pretty solid

But now tha you guys mention it

Running Exalter over Gavialter does kinda alleviate sustain issues

I mean, ignoring the fact that running that duo isn't guaranteed success all the time

[tropic valve]

their archetypes are just that good

[scarlet fulcrum]

The reason i skip mumu, for this moment and other potential future ops

[lapis hornet]

you did a disa wtf

[scarlet fulcrum]

[lapis hornet]

I'll just go one pity for exe we'll see if I win the 50/50

[scarlet fulcrum]

I will just do same thing tbh, tho i will not use him anyway. (Stare at mlynar collecting dust)

[halcyon adder]

I will do around 150 pulls

Just kidding

[lapis hornet]

random paul sapa jumpscare

[spark sinew]

should be able to guarantee thankfully the pity is 150, not 250 now

[limpid siren]

Spaa

[cobalt parcel]

How many hours before the server open ?

[merry nymph]

around 2-3 hours if im not mistaken
#help message

[cinder pike]

or look at

/maint

[sullen blade]

𝗦𝗵𝗮𝘄

When will Maintenance End? When will Hortus de Escapismo and the event banner be available?

The scheduled maintenance lasts from <t:1703156400:f> to <t:1703178000:f>
Start: <t:1703156400:R>
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Compensation: 5

[tidal sedge]

Why is the civilians wants to do seppuku?

[glass monolith]

They just take idea of "What if i jump off there" to extreme

[spark sinew]

they prefer to "live" on their terms, without any fear

[latent monolith]

Then why do they panic all the time

[vernal lion]

they're brainwashed

[glass monolith]

Panic? They are sleeping like good kids.
Join Blacknight simps. Sleep all civilians. And then steal their ID in chapter 12 while they sleep

Also i will try to sleep boulder and don't ask why

[merry narwhal]

That is so the opposite of sour

Nice

[tidal sedge]

What non boss and non elite mobs is the worse mob to deal with?

[glass monolith]

Like half of this game is elite mobs I don't even recall which of them are not elites

Most recent "not elite" annoying piece of - was chapter 12 -3 DP on hit archers, they are not elites

[tidal sedge]

You can check the wiki and select normal mobs

[vernal lion]

here is my answer

[spark sinew]

hmm

this is not an elite nor a boss

i nominate it

[vernal lion]

well it's not totally what you need to deal with, it's when you block it

inside IS3 game

but if you want a real asshole, there he is

[cosmic thicket]

wtf is this

[vernal lion]

the follower of Witch King

[cosmic thicket]

no like

what event is the enemy from

and what does it do

[vernal lion]

Music event v2

[cosmic thicket]

oh

i don't play cn makes sense

[vernal lion]

dmg stack up to ~10k

[cosmic thicket]

HUH

[vernal lion]

basically, bait it with frd

[cosmic thicket]

oh

[glass monolith]

Apparently sleep doesn't work on those civilians because they already run with closed eyes

[foggy grove]

l

[vernal lion]

I'm sure there will be an event with "your op can kill civillian, but you will lose -1 hp anyway" mechanism

[latent monolith]

Hello strat how were your pulls time to prepare for civillians again

[foggy grove]

i got offbannered 4 times

nothing new

[glass monolith]

One thing i love about this event:
It shows mechanic
It says "That helps you not to die"
And then game removes it

[foggy grove]

the statue?

[glass monolith]

How to make event:
Make everything which screams "Camp this shit at red box"
Make enemy spawn literally everywhere but red box
?????
Profit

[jovial nest]

Christmas came early this year.

[glass monolith]

O hey enemy info update is here

[deft badger]

really xDD

[vernal lion]

ok 22 pulls,
1 Exalter, 1 Lee, 1 Spuria, 1 Canta

[jovial nest]

thr new enemy info update also has Elite tab

nice

[spark sinew]

didn't know this was salt mines

[jovial nest]

Hoo boy. This was supposed to come out with IS4

[vernal lion]

Arknights being alive fr

[deft badger]

did have to share the trash op xD

[spark sinew]

not talking about you

[proud drift]

Eben trash?

[spark sinew]

although, yes, i should have

his third mod is really good i heard

but the initial impression still sullies him

[proud drift]

Eben might not be S tier char, but he’s nowhere near trash

[vernal lion]

I want Eben for my nuke squad

[proud drift]

He fulfills his niche extremely well

But niche does not equal trash

[vernal lion]

yo these civi should go check psychologist instead of going into the church to pray for help lol

what a game

they get emotional dmg

[deft badger]

i am going crazy here

[vernal lion]

"running without looking" that's what they mean

too realistic

[glass monolith]

I seen rock farming stage... I don't need rock

[deft badger]

i got 3 six stars and it wasn't exe

lol

[spark sinew]

just 80, pretty much nothing

at least we have 150 hard pity now

go go

[deft badger]

don't jinx it

[jovial nest]

oh is this the update that adds hard pity?

[spark sinew]

no

[deft badger]

i never did have to pity and we are not going to pity lol

[spark sinew]

pity at 150 was added with ines

[jovial nest]

good to know

it took more than 150 to get Mlynar for me

[spark sinew]

but pity at 250 should've been around forever

[quick pecan]

@lilac silo dude an exalter and a dorothy in one multi

no spuria

[lilac silo]

[glass monolith]

AH YES MAX DP 19 AND DIAGONALLY MOVING ENEMIES AVOIDING BLOCKERS, MY FAUVORITEeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[quick pecan]

i’m e2ing insider before exalter idc

[tidal sedge]

They really said use invis reveal or have an annoyingly long auto huh

[lapis hornet]

man this even p unintuitive

invis enemies just drop randomly around the map lul?

[tidal sedge]

Yeah it's pretty annoying

I guess it's because it'd otherwise be too easy to spawncamp and thus avoid engaging with the mechanics

[vernal lion]

now that is strategy game

[jovial nest]

ah now i see what you mean by the pathing

it's like they just run around the place just to make civs panic

[glass monolith]

You know what would be funny? Auto desync to different random enemy spawn

[latent monolith]

this is new right

I don't remember seeing it before

[foggy grove]

yeah

[jovial nest]

oh goodie...the statues have cooldowns...

they panic so fast

[latent monolith]

omg more information in game? what did you do to my ak?

It's cool that they added it

[jovial nest]

it is not new

i think?

you mean the previewing?

[latent monolith]

Yeah

[jovial nest]

either way even spawncamping makes them goddamn panic

[deft badger]

so if i pull 150 then i get him 100%? 😄

[jovial nest]

dude, the enemies are not near you. STOP PANICKING

[deft badger]

i am at 100 now lol

[glass monolith]

Don't recall previewing

[spark sinew]

no

[deft badger]

what does no mean 😄

[spark sinew]

it means the answer to your question is "no"

[glass monolith]

You need to get 6* AFTER reaching 150 without him to get him

[latent monolith]

We also got this btw

[glass monolith]

"If you panic, you deserve to die"

[deft badger]

after 150 the next six star is guarantied to be him?

[latent monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1179763441041420380/image.png

[proud drift]

En cant read anyway it’s ok

[jovial nest]

their therapist (statue) is expensive

and it doesn't even last long

[glass monolith]

BOSS IS FUCKING RMA STAGE?

I HATE THIS EVENT

[jovial nest]

HAHAHAHHA

OH NO

[glass monolith]

WORST FARMING STAGES

[proud drift]

Is the boss cancer?

[latent monolith]

Skill issue just make a stable auto

[deft badger]

i got 4 f- of banners dude

with 100 pulls

[latent monolith]

(idk I'm still at stage 5)

[glass monolith]

Stage effect: Towers don't exist

[proud drift]

Idk the mechanic yet as I can’t play the game for another 10 hours

[latent monolith]

Isn't that basically just a time limit on stage?

[proud drift]

But I hate the idea of civilians already

[glass monolith]

This event is complete cancer to low op unless you ling abuse or whatever

[proud drift]

Oh low op mald

[latent monolith]

I am not beyond ling abuse

[glass monolith]

DUDE I NEED TO FULL SQUAD ON FARM MAP

[latent monolith]

Blue woman less behaviour

[jovial nest]

i doubt it needs all 12 ops to be srs

[glass monolith]

Every operator in front of blue box turn into Saga because enemy learned art of moving diagonally

[jovial nest]

unless what you're saying is it can't be 1-3 ops'd

[spark sinew]

the civies are eugh

[latent monolith]

Idk just wait until people put out trust farm setups

[spark sinew]

also HG's favorite

[glass monolith]

Starting DP 19 and civilian f- kill himself in 40 seconds. Good luck

[spark sinew]

no boss description the first time you see it

[glass monolith]

First time you see it he insta kill 2 civilians

Which are literally only 2 civilians in entire event which allowed to die

[latent monolith]

At least now the description is useful when you do unlock it

We take the Ws we can

[jovial nest]

they already were....

[spark sinew]

yeah i'm used to it i suppose

[jovial nest]

just that it was all in judgment format

[spark sinew]

i still hate it

[jovial nest]

and not bulleted

[latent monolith]

The new one also has more values and definite stat thresholds

[jovial nest]

oh thank god rocks can be blocked

[latent monolith]

Although why they don't just give a number at this point is beyond me

They already do for weight

[jovial nest]

try giving a number to enemies that have to scale up according to game modes, EXs, Ss, IS difficulties etc

giving a number leads to misinfo

[proud drift]

What, you don’t like seeing crushers have S def and not knowing whether it’s 500, 1000 or 2000?

[latent monolith]

^

It's already a definite range

[proud drift]

Oh

Still bs

[latent monolith]

In the new UI

[jovial nest]

it ain't a definite range when risks and game mode difficulties can turn those Ds into something monstrous

[proud drift]

Giving a number allows people to use their heads

To calculate

[jovial nest]

oh god the splash damage of the rocks destroy wood too

sheeesh

it's hazard map, the event

[proud drift]

“Oh this archer has 200 ATK, +40% of it will be 280 ATK”

Instead now u have

“It’s somewhere between 280 and 390”

And it’s a big difference

Sorry I said 390 but that’s incorrect

And I’m too lazy to calculate how much correctly is 40% of 300

I think 120

[jovial nest]

aaaand there we go

[glass monolith]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN GLOBAL -2 BLOCK ON MAP WITH INVISIBLE ENEMIES

[jovial nest]

this event really is hell

and its just normal stages

[quick pecan]

[jovial nest]

and its already showing signs of sadism

[quick pecan]

e2 speedrun

[glass monolith]

I don't give a single shit for EX stages, because i don't need to FARM THEM FOR ENTIRE EVENT

All 3 farm stages suck ligma

[spark sinew]

why would you farm rocks

[foggy grove]

i'm leaking on he-2

[spark sinew]

the rma stage is fine when you figure it out but i hate the design

[jovial nest]

wait what the fuck?

so the wood doesn't get destroyed immediately. But there's no HP to it either.

[glass monolith]

HE-8
<Your ass> is destroyed upon the stage's start

[jovial nest]

does it take 3 hits before destroyed?

[glass monolith]

There is flipped HP bar on left of it

[spark sinew]

oh wtf

[jovial nest]

oh the red one

[glass monolith]

How much it takes to die? God knows

[jovial nest]

Nearl in tutorial is doing wrong strats

wait nah. This 2nd tutorial map is really annoying to keep wood alive

[latent monolith]

You need gummy on the right

[spark sinew]

you just deploy gummy and 2 fences

[glass monolith]

There is tutorial for fence and literally 1 map to give you fucking fence

For entire event

well normal stages anyway

[latent monolith]

We'll probably have more in ex

[vernal lion]

hmm looks good enough

[jovial nest]

that makes Nearl's placement and Jessica's even stupider. But i guess this is purely to teach the splash damage

[spark sinew]

he-6 with ling and so many empty slots
villain behaviour

[quick pecan]

he-7 blue poison tiles

[jovial nest]

so many DP-oriented enemeis

[tidal sedge]

Huh. You kept statues alive?

[jovial nest]

cause I'd like to learn this stuff before EX comes heh

saving statues might be the solution to some of em

[glass monolith]

I love how HE-8 have civialsn jump right into rock spawner the moment it activates

Sure take free hits i don't mind

And then die because operator who suppose to block rock is affected by -2 block and ambush spawned sneak f-

[vernal lion]

ok so medal in HE-8, EX-3 and EX-7 (trim)

[glass monolith]

THERE ARE STAGE MEDALS?

[vernal lion]

[glass monolith]

MOTHERF-

[tribal verge]

WHY HE WALK IN HOLE?

[glass monolith]

Because he is A-hole

[jovial nest]

HAHAHHAHA

[glass monolith]

Something tells me i don't want to low rarity this event

[jovial nest]

I'm just using the few ops I haven't <200% trust

well

until they can no longer keep up with civ ending themselves

[glass monolith]

I hate using Ling, I am not using Ling, fuck everything i go farm rock

[jovial nest]

oh good. the moment they hit red, you cannot undo it by giving them statue therapy

good to know

[spark sinew]

but you can?

i remember doing it

[jovial nest]

i meant that once they hit red and start rushing

and you use the statue's effect before they run away from it (within its range)

it lowers their meter but they still will go to the next statue

btw what do they do if there's only 1 statue?

[glass monolith]

Probably just yeet themself off cliff

But if seriously those idiots codes to waypoint somewhere each panic

And as far as not boss stage there are like only 2 paths they take

from A to B and from B to A

[jovial nest]

well time to learn then for me

[spark sinew]

it sounds annoying for newbies

[glass monolith]

And no you can't sleep those idiots

[jovial nest]

I'm letting a statue die while i try to first clear this

[spark sinew]

i just skipped the mechanic because i have flags and can spam shrines

only boss stage doesn't have them

[jovial nest]

when they mean bleed....is it like IS3's bleed?

like Ch11 dog bleed?

or does it cap?

[gentle finch]

damn I should've trust farmed executor

[gentle finch]

most sane ling haver

[proud drift]

Question

[jovial nest]

also wow they really added so many DP-decreasing enemies on an event reliant on a gimmick that eats a lot of DP

[proud drift]

What the fuck is the difference between

Elemental RES

And elemental resistance

And why is that a stat enemy has

When it applies only to ur ops

[jovial nest]

the circle means how long it takes for it to proc it
the other one is how much damage they take from it

My smart guess btw

i don't know if that's true

[spark sinew]

we already have 3 (4) ops that do necrosis, and future op that does burn

[glass monolith]

I just gave up on boss and rarity abused. And now will farm rock because i need RMA but i am not doing that stage ever again. Also RNG enemy spawn as mechanic lmao

[proud drift]

Oh

Do we actually have elemental dmg to enemies

[jovial nest]

welcome to CN knowledge

[glass monolith]

With IS4 start then limited after Eyjaberry

[spark sinew]

well, in cn
virtuosa, cyclop lady, that new 5* in red cert and eben delta

god knows i won't remember their names

[vernal lion]

ok done

time to wait for next week

[spark sinew]

is it actually rng

oh, he should only summon them on the tile he is in
that explains it

[vernal lion]

boss is just a mf debuffer

he's nothing

[glass monolith]

Applies -2 block, summon ambusher, ambusher consume last block count of your defender, you can't block rock, rock double kills civils

[vernal lion]

just get 4 block

I will wait to see if HG bring this boss into TFN

[jovial nest]

wtf! no!

[vernal lion]

OMG? YES?

[tidal sedge]

Little girl packs a punch

[jovial nest]

she rapid fires all the goddamn ammo

[vernal lion]

she's a girl of Misfortune

[jovial nest]

I'm bringing 1 veteran ops now

Tex2

nah

we go Ling

[cosmic thicket]

what's the strat for HE-8, block all the rock things and let the civilians walk?

[jovial nest]

yeah

make sure all your exits are safe too from helidrops

[cosmic thicket]

oh right

[spark sinew]

||block top right rocks ||

[cosmic thicket]

just those ones?

don't the civilians take a ton of damage from the rocks?

[glass monolith]

Don't forget to finish stage before civilian bleed out like idiots

[cosmic thicket]

oh yeah

[glass monolith]

literally timed

[spark sinew]

basically

[foggy grove]

geez this random invis is just dropping out of nowhere

[spark sinew]

they only spend a lot of time on that bottom lane and somewhere on the top right, idr

[glass monolith]

Oh, sassy lost child has random targeting with ammo

[vernal lion]

tbh, 25 sp cost with 40s of duration

it's kinda good

[jovial nest]

ok nice to learn that if there's one statue....they just run from A (living statue) -> B (dead statue) and immediately go back to A

basically....they just ran a lap

so it bleeds more HP

[vernal lion]

until they have zero statue

and just keep running around like an idiot

[jovial nest]

and bleed to death

while rocks kill them faster

[gleaming lodge]

are you saying Skyfire S2 is "kind of good" out of nowhere ?

[vernal lion]

at least she's good with Surtr ngl

[halcyon adder]

This civies r just stupid

[gleaming lodge]

???

Surtr + Skyfire =~ Surtr alone

[glass monolith]

Everything is good compared to this event

[jovial nest]

This is not even the boss map and I'm using so many resources just so the idiots don't die.

[halcyon adder]

I dunno how to do he8 tbh

Too many rocks

[vernal lion]

but, I will say, everything goes better when you have all promotes,
especially for IS content

[gleaming lodge]

well

I have to agree Skyfire S2 with ASPD looks very funny

[vernal lion]

I mean, the stun from her is not that bad anyway

those mf stingray enemies from IS3, just so goddamn annoying

[jovial nest]

My RNG sucks then

[vernal lion]

Misfortune

[tidal sedge]

Hm

[gleaming lodge]

I mean

mantas are the problem in IS3

[tidal sedge]

Fortuna doesn't appear to break Lin shield when s3 is active?

But she does when it's inactive for sure

[vernal lion]

700 atk won't crash a bit tho

[glass monolith]

LAST INVISIBLE ENEMIES ON HE-6 TAKE SO LONG TO MOVE CIVILIANS JUST BLEED OUT

WHAT THE FUCK

[jovial nest]

thats their gameplan

or you know

SAVE THE STATUES

[tidal sedge]

A funny little prank isn't it?

[jovial nest]

and keep using 20 DP

to keep their therapy alive

or use Ines

[glass monolith]

On low ops? When i need to handle dog rush, high DEF boy, 2 assassins, Sassy lost child, and AFK DP reduction risk?

[jovial nest]

don't bother low opsing that much

if 1-2 extra high level ops can make an auto smoother

go for it

[glass monolith]

BUT FUCKING 6 OPS ON ROCK FARM STAGE?

[crude oak]

ok, I'm livid because I can't figure out Enforcer's Paradox, any ideas?

[jovial nest]

Jokes on you. Only Ling there (screenshot) is an actual 200% trust

[red cosmos]

Trying to de weedy's Simulation Paradox

[crude oak]

it's the stupid metal crabs, they don't die in time

[signal lichen]

why are you farming rocks?

on this event?

[neat skiff]

Blue woman.

[red cosmos]

That fcking drone at 1 HP

[spark sinew]

honestly skill issue

[neat skiff]

The worst bit is on CN the crabs died WAY faster.

[glass monolith]

It is even funnier when you have M3 Weedy and can do stage without Ange

[red cosmos]

I have S7

And yet why

[signal lichen]

you can also do the stage with s1 + ange iirc

[neat skiff]

https://youtu.be/X_6102ifdXA Like, WAY faster. And the module does nothing since crabs are not weight 3 or above.

[signal lichen]

but it takes forver

[vernal lion]

ok so, you need at least this physical dmg to break Lin mod3 shield

[crude oak]

what does that even mean? My Enforcer's E2 50 SL7

[neat skiff]

It means something is fucky.

[crude oak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_6102ifdXA trying to follow this, but it's not working

[red cosmos]

It's just luck? About Weedy's Simulation Paradox

[crude oak]

his was max level

and I'm not about to do that for 200 orundums

[glass monolith]

Level issue if you leave something on 1 hp

[red cosmos]

Just to hope that drone fcking dies?

[neat skiff]

Max level can't kill the crabs in global.

[crude oak]

oh that's great

so it's bugged?

[red cosmos]

But Lvling my weedy affects the paradox?

[glass monolith]

If you fucking operator doesn't kill thing what else you expect me to tell you?

[red cosmos]

I think in a video said that the simulation paradox weedy is always E2 lvl 1

Idk

[spark sinew]

why are people having sl7 on pushers
i wonder what did yostar broke with enforcer paradox

[glass monolith]

Fuck me i don't have E2 lvl 1 because i level operators who I use and i finished Canta E2 lvl 1 paradox with her being 0 HP

[neat skiff]

Enforcer gains 53 attack going from E2L50 to E2L80. That is not enough to get the kill time to less than half of current.

[full finch]

only a little close

[signal lichen]

going from doing paradoxes without the operator (eyja and wildmane) to not even being able to do them at all (enforcer now ig)

10/10

[crude oak]

this was the strategy that was given to me

he'll knock the crabs into the holes

I just have to time it better

[polar crane]

good luck

[glass monolith]

FUCK MY LIFE I IDDNT PLRESS SAVE AUTO

[jovial nest]

HE's true boss/elite enemy.

[signal lichen]

he really is

[glass monolith]

This f- event

[neat skiff]

Use the towers. Stops them running around and keeps them calm.

[polar crane]

https://b23.tv/4rISfMB
here the vid if you still struggle

[jovial nest]

they're called statues

[crude oak]

so far it's the last push I'm struggling with

[vernal lion]

hmm so Lin can only tank the enemy caster's hit with 333 atk or lower

she can tank this one, because it's 320 atk

starting from this one, it's 340 atk

and this one is 350 atk

[signal lichen]

how much damage does lin shield absorb?

[glass monolith]

200 off skill, up to 600 based on S3 mastery on skill

[vernal lion]

1255 physical dmg and 333 arts dmg

with mod3, when off skill

[glass monolith]

Now break your math by adding damage reduction source like Quercus which is calculated after DEF/RES but before shield

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/585140236183535632/1034870492064133160/dance.gif

[vernal lion]

so it's only like 5% of enemy caster list that has 320 arts atk and lower

[vernal lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/884942620411981875/1150111597524689006/2023-09-09_21-36-02.mp4?ex=65904ae4&is=657dd5e4&hm=ee284e6165103a3f0e61aceae84c8cc4c86c6ab551ea99cd9c06639ab30ad694&

[mossy ore]

so true

what a fun event

[polar crane]

so true bestie

I have no clue what that word mean

[vernal lion]

a sheep?

[glass monolith]

Please yes

I will take insta kill fluffy creatures over this shit event

anytime

[polar crane]

you get to farm rma at least

[glass monolith]

No i don't

because to farm RMA i need to auto boss stage

No

[neat skiff]

Blue woman.

[glass monolith]

I already take big L and farm HE-6 with 4 operators

[vernal lion]

Typhon being Dorothy

[glass monolith]

So... When they remember to record resotre UT?

[neat skiff]

Honestly, it's a win for those of us who wanted exe2.

[vernal lion]

well I want Swalter too

[glass monolith]

We are THIS close to have IS4 give Typhon free skin BEFORE release of Typhon

[glass monolith]

I swear on first look i was thinking it was Swire knives doing 180 degree turn off screen

[vernal lion]

tbh tho I have no needed mat to farm in Adele event

Manganese just got a bunch from SN lol

[glass monolith]

What is Adele mat again

[vernal lion]

Aketon, Crystalline and Manganese

[signal lichen]

the projectile is going in a 180 tho at lest thats what is displayed and that is weird

[glass monolith]

YES Aketon

[random widget]

Hi Naga

[vernal lion]

we have RMA in IC-9

and Gel in IC-8

fucking shit lol

this event mat is like imitated from IC

ok I will farm a ton of rock in this event

[glass monolith]

I have 3 OP of it

Boss spawns, Gladiia root boss. Pozy does BRRRRRRRRRR. Meanwhile flametail is overpriced car path shaper

[vernal lion]

SA solo

and now we have Degen solo

[glass monolith]

Lame and no lore accurate Pozy W over Minimalist or something

[signal lichen]

exu can solo pretty sure pozy also can

[glass monolith]

How much def this IKEA drone has again?

[vernal lion]

600 def

and 800 def in EX and S

[brazen stream]

fun stage

[glass monolith]

[brazen stream]

it’s long but the auto is easy

[vernal lion]

I mean there's Ling solo

[royal rose]

So auto-deploy doesn’t work in the new stages cuz of those guys that drop in randomly?

[crisp bolt]

Good thing I don't plan to auto it

[brazen stream]

what’s a ling

[vernal lion]

you

[royal rose]

Blue woman

[brazen stream]

I don’t own blue woman

I started 2 months ago

[glass monolith]

I have "only" 90 RMA, i wouldn't mind more. But i don't want to touch that stage again

[signal lichen]

100ish is decent enough to hold for a while generally

unless your rasing a crap load of stuff fast somehow or have huge exp rserves

[proud drift]

There’s never enough rma

[brazen stream]

true

[proud drift]

[brazen stream]

I’ll farm 80% RMA 20% gel

[proud drift]

If you farm 300 then you won’t have to farm it next event

[signal lichen]

i need more gels

but thats me

[proud drift]

I probably raised most of my gel-consuming units

I have severe hatred for electro crystalline unit

[crisp bolt]

I only need gel

[signal lichen]

gonna go like 300 gels then maybe do some rmas

oh my gosh this stage is so much faster then jt8-2 lmao

[brazen stream]

just recorded, 2 minute 30 second stage

[signal lichen]

good stuff

[brazen stream]

stinky

[signal lichen]

yeah that sucks for rma

[brazen stream]

[glass monolith]

[brazen stream]

would you like the video so you can copy, maybe you could auto

[glass monolith]

I'm not playing that stage again

Outside of forced mission on rerun... Wait are there even mission in this shit?

[signal lichen]

i am indeed a little guy

[signal lichen]

i would like auto video if you have it

[turbid badge]

while you were gone, absolutely nothing happened.

mlynar taunt

this hybrid mirder my maggie

[crude oak]

I hope not, I've really been wanting her

[turbid badge]

is the dodge blue on mr noth?

[fierce meteor]

This is a nightmare,the civilians are so annoying

[crude oak]

I didn't think it was that bad

[fierce meteor]

Worst boss i could fight

[glass monolith]

19 DP CAP STAGE IN NORMAL STAGES

Fuck my life they will have 9 DP cap stage in EX CM next?

[crude oak]

I'm lame and followed afk strats, seemed easy enough

[glass monolith]

And i had no guides and fucking hate myself AND this event which means i need to hate twice as much shit that before

[clever depot]

is one Kaltsit module better than the other? Or are they both situational

[vernal lion]

yes, they're both situational

[clever depot]

cool ty!

[golden merlin]

Spuria only buff sniper?

Can she buff Aak?

[glass monolith]

Sniper is sniper

[full finch]

the skill says sniper
Aak is not a sniper

[golden merlin]

Not only to Aak could be caster but ok

[full finch]

the skill says sniper

[signal lichen]

aak might be a suicidal sniper in the field with s1 but in the builder hes not

[glass monolith]

But what if we module dobberman?

[full finch]

dobermann is not a sniper

[glass monolith]

Pallas S2 outrange Aciddrop. What even is condition for this stupid class

(I do it on purpose)

[cosmic thicket]

imagine the only way you can open is with a max pot texalter or yato alter

[crisp bolt]

good thing I'm farming gel

I hate the boss stage so much

[turbid lagoon]

Does the boss actually spawn more civs or is that an ex thing

[brazen stream]

sweep!

[signal lichen]

trying out mr.nothing paradox now that i finally e2ed him

kinda confused

don't tell me its dodge rng lmao

like how is he supposed to stop a charger

[turbid badge]

@latent anvil justyna or lee

[jovial nest]

I don't mind. I don't care for Typhon. I want Eyjaberry though

[glass monolith]

I want Skyrim Swire

FUR SO DUH

[turbid badge]

which justyna module do you guys use

[polar steppe]

can bleed be countered? is it through a wandering medic or therapist

[ancient hearth]

talent to hit it and stun

[jovial nest]

it says nothing on how to counter bleed like the Ch11 dogs or IS3's bleed

so I'm guessing it's just poison damage that caps?

[tropic valve]

that means Spuria can buff Thorns

[turbid badge]

how

[peak cloak]

how

[turbid badge]

?

uhh

this is s1 btw

ur acting like his talent doesnt exist

anyway enjoy free orundum

i get scared when he went to sleep

almost leaked

[signal lichen]

i wasn't setting him down soon enough

got it a bit back

yeah forgot talent was overly focused on the s2 that has 3 different rng effects

[turbid badge]

yeah there could be a point where the lancer just zooms past before nothing can land a hit

[signal lichen]

you have to retreat soon enough

after the caster kill

[turbid badge]

i just use the red pad and stun bomb

[signal lichen]

that was the only issue and yeah read talent

[latent anvil]

nya