strategy

[lapis hornet]

I went unga bunga it somehow worked

[clever kernel]

its like

the 2hp seal doro tag is just not possible to take

if you take 1 hp seal risk

killing her with her HP buff is just insanity

and taking 1hp seal risk, means you cant leak the last 2 robots

so if you dont want stall, those 2 has to go

[lapis hornet]

yeah I think I didn't take either

[clever kernel]

without them its ok

normal CC stuff

[lapis hornet]

yeah if you actually stall the last 2/3 bots it's kinda lol

I wasn't fancying a 2h clear

[frozen cedar]

I did 540 day 1 on a new account. And 600 after 2 dailies

[turbid badge]

600 is just leak robot and sleep

doo hit hard

doro

[glass monolith]

i did 600 with 440% ATK Doro, she failed to kill Mlynar because Silence alter damage reduction bullshit

[gray stone]

Peak gaming

[tidal sedge]

So...that didnt go well

Shit went south around 350

[frozen cedar]

do you want stategic advise?

I think your thorns should be further left to spawn camp

your units don't look too bad, but we could adjust them too, are we borrowing a unit?

[tidal sedge]

Thorns is the borrow

I was doing ok up until like 340-350

[frozen cedar]

have you seen eckogen's guide?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8YUqG5wjOc&t=41s

since we can upgrade rarity, it should work

[tidal sedge]

Not yet

[frozen cedar]

I think i used that with some modifications

[tidal sedge]

I see. Ill check it out

[remote atlas]

I approve of this message.

[cyan gorge]

Speak his name and he shall appear

[frozen cedar]

Eckobot

[tidal sedge]

Lol

[radiant plinth]

I ACHIEVED THE 369

[tidal sedge]

If nothing else, your determination/stubbornness is praiseworthy.

Hm, that comes off as more backhanded than I intended.

Hopefully you can clear 380+ in all seriousness.

[bleak hill]

Yo goys, I’m planning on getting Tuye, Scene and Bebeak… thing is I don’t know if my general level is enough for farming the dailies, so does anyone have any advice or can tell me if i could actually do it in this conditions?
this are my characters:

[cyan gorge]

Focus on getting Scene and get the others later

[bleak hill]

She is my priority

[cyan gorge]

You have Mr. Nothing so Erato has good value too

[radiant plinth]

for all intents and purposes this run should have been 376

but i fucked up

[radiant plinth]

lvl up those skills to their cap and u should be able to do some of them

[bleak hill]

I have to check on her again but Im planing on getting them all anyway

[bleak hill]

Hm of all of them?

[frozen cedar]

E2 a 4 star

[bleak hill]

I got farmed Highmore this days and got her to lvl7 skill and everything cuz I thought she could bring a lot of value to my progress, but I’m not too sure of who to go for next

[bleak hill]

Working on it

Purestream

[frozen cedar]

According to someone next event should get you the mats for goldenglow

[cyan gorge]

Hortus coming soon so Gummy would be a good choice

[frozen cedar]

Explain.

[cyan gorge]

RMA farm

[frozen cedar]

Gummy farms RMA?

[bleak hill]

But getting the chips is a bit of a challenge, I managed to get the guard chips by using my first acc as support, but for the other ones it seems to be a challenge even with support

[frozen cedar]

Is2 monthly squad

[cyan gorge]

Gummy e2 mats are RMA and manganese

[bleak hill]

Even the IS3 gives mats for her

[frozen cedar]

You do the monthly squad you get 4 chips of every class

[bleak hill]

Ye did found out today and did it x)

Still need 5 instead of 4

Anyway, aside from the 4 star is there in the list of characters I own at the moment any character I should prioritise or something like a list of most effective and versatile etc?

[frozen cedar]

So borrow mudrock and have her handle one side

[bleak hill]

Ima trying my best not to be wasteful x)

[bleak hill]

Ill try that out

[radiant plinth]

this mofo

[sly drift]

Please be Rosa

I want the bear

[crisp bolt]

Aak time

[frozen cedar]

if the tags don't drop the choices are mostima, rosa or ceobe

but the thing should be in #salt-mines

[crisp bolt]

I'm saying tag will drop

[turbid badge]

Exu pot

[scarlet fulcrum]

ceobe for sure

[bleak hill]

How come Mr. nothing with Erato, I don’t recall him putting enemies to sleep

[tidal sedge]

His talent

[spark sinew]

exactly, he can't attack sleeping enemies

that said when your mr nothing is e1...
just don't bother with the "combo"

you won't have the need for it

(also don't just e2 4 and 5 stars because they have higher rarity than others)

you're speading your resources very thin, and some of them are just...bad

[bleak hill]

Stun but not sleep

[bleak hill]

Was my intention from the start

[tidal sedge]

The sleep makes him not attack, which let's him use talent stun repeatedly on the same target

[bleak hill]

Ye that’s why I wanted to ask for advice x)

[somber falcon]

It looks fine imo, aside from mint and nothing

[bleak hill]

Now this makes more sense, so you mean her skill one combined with his talent

[spark sinew]

sideroca?

bena?

their niches are also just not useful so maybe i'm spoiled with better choices

[somber falcon]

Sideroca still an ok op at worst

[spark sinew]

like bena with gravel conflict for the same stuff for example

[somber falcon]

Why are you using bena as frd?

She's a laneholder

[spark sinew]

they're both meatshields

[gray sierra]

Bena was a trailblazer for her archetype, works fine for her purpose

[bleak hill]

I limited my self to getting them to e1 lvl 20 because i didn’t want to overdo

[spark sinew]

if your bena doesn't eat ranged attacks you lose value from her kit

[somber falcon]

Well you don't keep gravel on field now do you

[spark sinew]

so gravel becomes a bit redundant (note: not "always" redundant)

[somber falcon]

Bena already have -hp in her kit

[gray sierra]

From her skill 2 I think

[spark sinew]

do you have any other 4*?
i want to say "rush 4star to e2" but your current options are more utility focused

[somber falcon]

And literally, just have her hold lane

[bleak hill]

Bena was actually my one if the first operators i got because she helped a lot at the beginning with the extra arts dmg she does with the twin, and because she doesn’t die

[spark sinew]

yeah bena is great

dollmasters are fairly strong

[bleak hill]

and she holds 2 enemies at one

[bleak hill]

x)

[gray sierra]

You were asking about Tuye earlier right?

She’s a great budget medic

[bleak hill]

Also i really like specialist op’s idk why really yet

[spark sinew]

mfw 5* is budget medic now

[gray sierra]

easy to get pots for ig

[spark sinew]

with warf and puresrtream already invested into

[bleak hill]

Oh well i was asking about what is a good idea to bring up first in order to make it easier for me to have an idea of what to prioritise, my priority is to get scene but I can’t quite yet because the dailies are tougher than what my ops can handle

[gray sierra]

oh well

[somber falcon]

Can't get pots with just off season daily

[spark sinew]

she's not easy to get pots because newbies don't have access to cc (and pyrolysis currency sucks a bit)
but even without that, welfares have gimped pots

[bleak hill]

Isn’t purestream a budget medic? + she is useful for the Base x)

[spark sinew]

like, what is this trash

[somber falcon]

Ye purestream is fine

[tidal sedge]

What's weird is that Erato, Scene, and Bibeak have standard 5* pot schema

Only Tuye gets shafted with the 5* welfare pot schema

[spark sinew]

i would still recommend getting like, Cutter or Jaye and rush their e2

[gray sierra]

Oops forgot about off cc

[bleak hill]

Last time i tried cc with my team (didn’t have Highmore yet) i got trashed by the lava slime x)

[spark sinew]

"use" your resources on other ops after that if you want

[gray sierra]

well generally from my experience with tuye, s1 is budget shinning and s2 is better sussorro deep heal as long as ur ops don’t get nuked to below 30% hp per hit (infinite dur otherwise)

[spark sinew]

yeah i remember that
i think there were speculations about how robin was intended to be cc welfare as well but it was mostly people being disapointed with tuye

[bleak hill]

Jaye e2 is an option I kept in consideration, though i still have to learn how to deal with dp better cuz sometimes i just don’t realise and wonder why he dies x)

[spark sinew]

like, tuye gets shifted into CC from mansfield, robin gets her pots adjusted

and they forget to adjust tuye pots

who knows at this point

[bleak hill]

Wait how did tuye come into discussion, I might argue that Im pretty far from getting her

[tidal sedge]

I personally think they wanted to switch CC welfares to the welfare schema but backpedaled for Erato after folks noticed the discrepancy between Tuye and Bibeak+Scene

[gray sierra]

I mentioned her

[spark sinew]

honestly wouldn't have made much difference for erato

[bleak hill]

Bibeak was the second choice after Scene i wanted to get

Speaking abt Cc

[spark sinew]

in fact maybe it would've been better for her?

[tidal sedge]

Welfare schema is strictly worse

[spark sinew]

-1dp for -34atk

oh yeah they get higher base dp cost

right right

[tidal sedge]

Welfares have higher base dp and redeploy

[bleak hill]

Hm

[spark sinew]

80 sec redeploy is pain

[bleak hill]

80 sec….

That’s a life time and a third…

but ye still, for cc op’s is Bibeak a good option to get after Scene or should i get Erato first instead

[spark sinew]

i wasn't fast enough to read it

oh well

[shrewd hinge]

Bibeak and scene are both quite unique but I think bibeak is more unique overall whereas scene has unique niche utility among summoners

[spark sinew]

if you can get only one, i would 100% lean towards bibeak

you would love the stealth drones otherwise, as a new player

[limpid siren]

scene's niche is that she doesn't have one

boring summoner is her kit

[spark sinew]

what's the cost of her summons?

is it the same as mayer's?

[limpid siren]

5 iirc

[shrewd hinge]

Scenes niche is literally that her summons reveal stealth and have 1 range lmao

So not too important

Unless ur a stainless gamer or in ch9

[spark sinew]

they also have small slow but ehh

i do remember using her over mayer if i needed cheap disposable bodies though, was thinking maybe it was their cost?

[shrewd hinge]

She is renewable and her summons can get p beefy on skill

[spark sinew]

but even without that, being able to get more bodies is nice

[shrewd hinge]

But most of her job is just deepcolor

Deepcolor doesn't renew but I think tanks elites quite well on skill

And has a lot to throw at once

[limpid siren]

basically the same as no niche for how often it comes up

[shrewd hinge]

Ye unless ur summonerknights specifically lol

[cyan gorge]

But when it does come up, there aren’t many better alternatives barring Ines and SA

[limpid siren]

kid named elysium

[shrewd hinge]

Well in ch9

[cyan gorge]

But his isn’t always active

[limpid siren]

i don't remember needing invis reveal in ch9

[shrewd hinge]

Cheap dispensable pillar knock AND stall is nice

[limpid siren]

huh

[shrewd hinge]

Or stainless gaming

[limpid siren]

don't u just frd

[shrewd hinge]

U could

[limpid siren]

you don't need it to be always active

[tidal sedge]

I used Scene in a Pinch Out mission to reveal Dorothy

[soft crystal]

Theres only 1 invis enemy in c9 right

[shrewd hinge]

But redeploy time is lower and more bodies to be used at once

Also ch10

But ch10 is more frd + invisible reveal

Than needing range

[limpid siren]

the invis drones? that kill themselves?

[shrewd hinge]

Ye

[limpid siren]

[tidal sedge]

Those drones are your friend

[shrewd hinge]

But deepcolor suffices if u can just avoid the drones

Summons to direct cannon is nice

[cyan gorge]

Deepcolor best summoner

[spark sinew]

what's the stainless for?

[turbid badge]

her module makes them beefier

[sly drift]

For knocking pillar?
Probably put s3 robo facing pillar and have other ops attack it idk

[turbid badge]

But you can get another package from redeploying her i think

deepcolor breeding

tenetacle

[spark sinew]

looks like a waste
i thought it was some scene interaction

[turbid badge]

camera break with flash rq

[deft badger]

finally he is inc 😄

was already worried since they didn't announce him at the same time with the maintenance

[limpid siren]

Pretty standard

[spark sinew]

it was over when they announced shalem's skin, honestly
even if you're very careful to not jump to conclusions when seeing the 6h maintenance

[tidal sedge]

I forgot Insider s2 grants negative taunt

Kinda weird for a marksman

[spark sinew]

not bad, but i wonder if this would ever come up

maybe vs enemies with multitarget

[limpid siren]

Largely cosmetic given marksmen tend to be deployed early

[tidal sedge]

Yeah. That's what makes it odd. Maybe a mechanic or an enemy in the event will inform why its there? Guess I'll see

[lost summit]

The most optimized 4-6 clear I could make

Everything dies pretty much instantly

[latent monolith]

Why would you optimise 4-6

if you want a less irl sanity draining rock farm 10-6 is better

[spark sinew]

magallan on 1-7: look at what people need to mimic a fraction of my power

[glass monolith]

Optimize no Skalter AP-5

[spark sinew]

phantom mountain duo it

[dark glade]

Is that even a trust farm i see ros and saria e2

[spark sinew]

skalter is way worse than just saria/nearl here anyway

[glass monolith]

Saria was 0 trust because i didn't control center her

[spark sinew]

btw Z, switch to 252

[dark glade]

i know i just need to finish story and do the 5000 ambience and switch i have ocd with the mission

[spark sinew]

only need one dorm at 5k

i think

are you already lvl3 office lvl3 rr?

[dark glade]

It need 3 dorm at 5k
And 18k total

I need lvl 3 office for texas

[spark sinew]

you don't

[dark glade]

You do

[latent monolith]

Oh I need to trust farm mine

[spark sinew]

you need lvl3 rr

[latent monolith]

wait I need to do exec too

[dark glade]

Oh yea its the friend thing

My recruit building is lvl 1

It give me more top op than lvl 3 and its a fact

[spark sinew]

nice, not completely gutted

like mine

[dark glade]

base will be out of beta next year

[spark sinew]

after eben gets his fifth module

[proud drift]

Chetto being god’s strongest sniper on 1-7

[spark sinew]

oh, she is?

i only heard about maga being the fastest clearer or something

won't you need someone else to cover for chetto blind spot anyway?

if you spawncamp

wdym

[proud drift]

S1m3 solo’d it for me

[soft crystal]

Magallan spawncamps

[proud drift]

But she doesn’t spawncamp ig

[soft crystal]

Kills everything the shortest time

[spark sinew]

if you wait for them to come a lot of stuff clears it hell i think st snipers do

i use blaze because 🧓

[soft crystal]

Imagine not having magallan e2

[spark sinew]

not that concerned about clear being fast for...reasons

[proud drift]

I only tried chetto cause I had to do returner daily for borrowing a unit

So I just went into 1-7 took rnadom borrow and used my chetto

[spark sinew]

redoing the auto every time new op releases is a bit tiring

[tidal sedge]

I should use Mag more, she's fun

[weak gazelle]

think i made a mistake here

this will take forever

[spark sinew]

fourth one

[merry narwhal]

Skyfire+pram+puzzle took 2 hours (with m) for me. At least you have a hexer

[limpid siren]

beeswax jumpscare

[weak gazelle]

2 hours huh
thats long

me thinking to bring casmiya+franka

yeah i just want to bring beeswax

[nova wing]

Devs must be laughing hard when they thought of buffing gundams to the point of 2 hrs to kill

[merry narwhal]

it's funny how all that team building that is common in other gacha games finally reached AK

and the only reason is to shave off minutes of hourlong clears

[glass monolith]

Daily 3 is 3520% CC8 toxic archers

[tidal sedge]

nap for an hour, get up, squad still fighting those missile robots on the dorothy map

at least 2 of them are dead

saria's been smacking that last one for a while

[glass monolith]

2 of them is dead
Calm
"Them" is your operators who died because Skalter S2 turned off
Panik

[tidal sedge]

it auto recasts

buuuuuuuut

i didn't know that until tonight

[foggy grove]

are you doing 800 run or something

[spark sinew]

it auto recasts but it has quite a bit of a downtime

[foggy grove]

[tidal sedge]

no i just grabbed the funny hp/def/res nodes for the map

.-.

[spark sinew]

also yes, why would you stall

[tidal sedge]

for asmr to sleep to

[spark sinew]

i can understand 5* players doing this, but with access to 6* there's no need to

[foggy grove]

if you are rarity abusing no need to stall

[tidal sedge]

nothing soothes my sleep like nearlter s1 going ding ding ding

[glass monolith]

You need rarity abuse to stall to some degree based on risk and other shit but i am doing it blind so expect 10,000 monkeys doing random deployments and skill activations till one of them works

[dark glade]

Are you doing the 100 points thing but taking all the hp risk?

[tidal sedge]

probably

dont remember will see when its done in another 30 minutes

:l

[foggy grove]

good luck

[tidal sedge]

305 and rarity abuse

truly the pinnacle of ability i have become

now to do it again but with the scary tags

is there a way to kill dorothy with all the tags or is leaking her required

[somber stone]

How much health does she even have then

[merry narwhal]

Scene does well against her to reveal and then you just dps her

either with big D physical or just use magic

you can also take all of her tags except for ATK up and leak her for 2 health

but then you have to kill the robots

[dark glade]

Im pretty sure the doro mission require you to take leak risk i forgor

[spark sinew]

or you can just not take 2hp risk

missions are very easy since they need you to take like 3 risks, so there's never a reason to get every tag that buffs her

[merry narwhal]

for 600 i giga buffed dorothy except for attack and leaked her. The only threatening enemies were the 3 rocket launcher dudes and the 2 orbs from the left

[glass monolith]

On my 600 Dorothy had "just" 440% ATK and still failed to kill Mlynar because Silence alter DR

[vernal lion]

I love Mizuki ending lol

[spark sinew]

s1 jaye

[tidal sedge]

sounds like i'm going to go with the leak dorothy option

[glass monolith]

What difficulty?

[vernal lion]

nah I haven't played yet, d0 btw

[glass monolith]

I spawnkilled walmart Skullshutter with Vigna + MoM buff on d12

[vernal lion]

btw

GhostNova in IS4

[spark sinew]

f2p squad

[glass monolith]

YO WTF

[spark sinew]

weird how they have hope to waste on some of the units here

[vernal lion]

I hate to say but the curse in IS4 is an asshole

mf mortar car just oneshot everyone

[dark glade]

he can just surtr it

[vernal lion]

Surtr s3 died in 3 ranged hits, or 1 melee hit lmao

[proud bluff]

Is there any news on r6 collab? Will we get ash rerun ?

[glass monolith]

If something changed #cn-lounge knows better.
By my knowledge nothing changed after announce of original collab going into side events, announce of 1 operator (who can be freeby of second collab) and that's it.

[spark sinew]

that's a team alright

should still stomp d0

[vernal lion]

can't imagine that I didn't get a cure for pozemka tho

what a bad rng

especially it's the "keep full hp or else die" curse lol

[spark sinew]

what's the curse

oh, it's whatever anyway

why even bother removing it, free curse

[vernal lion]

ok beat it

but it's sure hard lol

I feel it's all stat check

[spark sinew]

good f4

[vernal lion]

truly hardcore game

I'm kinda impress that I got this first ed4 right today

ok I'll be back for ed3, and complete some conditions to unlock its story

[spark sinew]

why do you get non-friend support sometimes, when 2 of your friends have that unit...

and then when rerolling you only get one of them 5 times in a row

[vernal lion]

Idk lol

truly rng moment

[spark sinew]

almost tempted to kick him

[glass monolith]

I have like 6 people with Spatula mod X and 1 with mod Y

[spark sinew]

damn, i wonder who that Y guy is

hopefully those X module spalters are not with s3

[glass monolith]

At least one of them is

I had E2 87 SL6 Skalter friend support on CC8, so at this point nothing surprizes me

[proud drift]

Sl6

[spark sinew]

jeez

no module either?

or did she even have module back then

[proud drift]

And I thought my M0 penance at e2 90 is pain

[foggy grove]

sl7 is expensive please understand

[glass monolith]

Also i am almost sure it was not full trust

[foggy grove]

[spark sinew]

idr when that was

[proud drift]

Skalter has a module?

[foggy grove]

no

[glass monolith]

Dude chill chill Skalter, not Spalter

[spark sinew]

reading is hard

so yeah, no module 🏃‍♂️

i was technically right

[glass monolith]

Spalter didn't even exist before like CC10 i think

[proud drift]

P.sure she existed on cc9

[foggy grove]

does she

[glass monolith]

Even if she did i done R22 burst on CC9 and went drinking

Fia S3 on no range 3 eggs FTW

[foggy grove]

apparently she does

[proud drift]

Fia S2 with Warfarin S2 and Gravel 3op r18

[tropic valve]

congrats!

[vernal lion]

I will take this 300 score

ok I think this is my limit

[spark sinew]

are vanguards absolutely not viable here?
they cost what, 40+?

[vernal lion]

yes lol

[spark sinew]

so you need like 2.5 flag activations to even pay for themselves

[strange fable]

ines w/ s3 is viable bc free deploy

[vernal lion]

and after 3rd deploy, all your vg is like 99 cost

[glass monolith]

Never underestimate my brain damage, Also 260 or something

[glass monolith]

SP cost up so either map, or you will expire by that time

[spark sinew]

yep...

[vernal lion]

I can't pick the 400 def nerf and archer enemy with massive hp buff + invisible tho

I also can't pick the 3rd atk up, it will break my Lin shield

[spark sinew]

no surtr?

[glass monolith]

+3520% HP archers

Full NTR S2 to do like 10%

[spark sinew]

i think you can kill archers with typical reedic combo

texas surtr sandwich

[vernal lion]

isn't archer invisible?

[spark sinew]

well surtr will block it
or indeed you can try ines s3

[glass monolith]

0 DP refund on retreat and second archer arrvie surronded by every sprearthrower of map

[vernal lion]

not to say the damn thrower mf

if I pick atk up 3, I will lose tower after the 2nd archer appears

it's not even worthy to pick

also, Yato s1m3 is pretty good

[glass monolith]

99% of my Yato deploys ends with her speedrunning her own undeployment

[tidal sedge]

anyone got reccomendations for fast perserverance, reaction and insight 100 scores?

[glass monolith]

Insignt 100 is dorothy 50 and robot 50 risks i think

[tidal sedge]

I said fast

[glass monolith]

Ceobe

[spark sinew]

robot 50 is fast

[vernal lion]

just leak lol

[spark sinew]

without any other buffs they're fairly squishy and vulnerable

[vernal lion]

but don't pick 1 hp seal

[spark sinew]

so just kill one and leak 2

[tidal sedge]

ok, what about the other 2?

[vernal lion]

isn't it for Insight farm?

1000% hp buff is decent good

while no res buff

just arts dmg tho

[glass monolith]

There is ONLY 150 insignt and 100 of it are dor 50 and robo 50

[tidal sedge]

what about perserverence and reaction?

[vernal lion]

perserverence is atk up I think

then just kill and heal

btw you just do each 100 tho

[glass monolith]

Other 50 insight are:
robot attack count from daily 3 +5
Invis RAT +10
RAT damage on leak +10
RAT spam traps +5
robot attack count 2 +16
AFK robot repair spamming dudes +4

[tidal sedge]

good to know but I'll just take the 2 50s

what about reaction?

[glass monolith]

Tile bans, 1 seal, HP/ATK/ASPD buff to ranged robots, ATK/DEF/RES buff to RAT, more armors + SP cost (which increase robot wake up cost lmao), sleeping robot buff

cook your poison

[tidal sedge]

thank you

wait what

I just did the 2 50 insight ones and its still at 90?

[glass monolith]

Screenshot or didn't happen

[foggy grove]

the number won't change

but you can see the line

if you are talking history

[tidal sedge]

oh yeah I can see it now

ok only perser and reaction left

[glass monolith]

Lmao you so close that "individual best" overlapped

[tidal sedge]

ok perserverence is just taking the big enemy atk up buffs which is simple

i think i'll have to calc reaction though

[vernal lion]

you can see the overlap

they even make symbol of Individual Best in the corner

truly chart moment

[tidal sedge]

lol idk why

it would be so simple to just make it update itself

[glass monolith]

It shows score of your max score. Question of why it don't show in any way individual bests as number when one of medals is reach 100 in that number is beyond human reasoning

[vernal lion]

it only takes the best score to show, the overlap is just each of best score for that stat, not for high risk clear

[tidal sedge]

man restarting the whole run just for 4 reaction

[glass monolith]

At least you not slapping them on top of your 600 run

[tidal sedge]

yea but its such a pain to find them

theyre all scattered

[foggy grove]

not me clicking each risk

[steep robin]

what support can help me beat this? I tried with my own characters alone but can't

[vernal lion]

Surtr s3, for the right lane if you want to burst down all the 'standby' casters easily

[sturdy crown]

since surtr loses HP while S3 is active would it be better to place a healer behind her or just let her hp drain and pull her out at the last minute?

[spark sinew]

the latter almost always

pull her out when her 8 seconds expire

[sturdy crown]

Got it thanks

[foggy grove]

she auto retreat for you after immortality run out

[vernal lion]

she kills for your sin, and dies for your sin

[cinder pike]

I am pretty sure that yato can kill pretty easy

[frozen cedar]

Blaze s2 in the vent

And bring gravel

[vocal leaf]

horn s1 can annihilate everything coming from left side before they even touch you, but putting two defenders there helps too, kal can deal with the sarkaz on right side, just dont awake them all at the same time, you can use gravel for that

[weak gazelle]

this thing done (never want to do this shit again) and now wait to buy shalem outfit

[glass monolith]

Step 2. Never again
Step 3. DoS

[versed arrow]

this is max score or something? if not, just leak the range gundam and save your irl sanity

[glass monolith]

"Trust me, just leak" - People baiting to leak one of Bro knights on that old CC

[real jacinth]

Can't be stunned?

Must be bs

Mandoraga is turning out to be more difficult than I had hoped

Most bothersome part is her flying

[frozen cedar]

When i killed her i just had rosa do it

[real jacinth]

Ion got rosa

Ashlock will have to do

Just kidding she can't hit arials

I shall try Ms April and see how that goes

[vernal lion]

well
if cannon defender can hit air, that must be a bit OP lol

however, HG should make an op with a skill that can hit air, just like a flak cannon

[real jacinth]

Ah

Glacaus

But worse

Squid sniper woman clobbers her over 50 percent hp????

[proud drift]

You just drop a rock on cute stone catgirl

And she flips over and dies

[real jacinth]

Clearly not

And she's not cute

She ordered the execution of an innocent

[crude oak]

I keep putting off GG's S2M3, any reason to bother?

[vernal lion]

+15% atk

[crude oak]

I usually only use S2 for AFK strats

[novel plover]

afk with more attack

[proud drift]

She’s cute and has a cause

[real jacinth]

She's the enemy

[proud drift]

She just follows orders

[real jacinth]

🌚

[proud drift]

Read the story

[real jacinth]

Ion care

Orders does not excuse her

Death shall insue

[vernal lion]

wtf is this

Mandra is hard???

[real jacinth]

Yah

[proud drift]

Either way idk just drop rocks on mandra

And she dies

[real jacinth]

I only got one rock on her in second form

[proud drift]

Dropping rocks on her removes her resistances and makes her take a lot more damage while also nerfing her attacks

[real jacinth]

First rock ntrk drop?

Maybe

[vernal lion]

let me phrase this, she died to my full buff Exu, without a single pillar drop

[real jacinth]

I know

[real jacinth]

I'm not a buff knights player

[vernal lion]

then it's your problem

[proud drift]

You know you can prepare pillars with units much weaker than ntrk

[real jacinth]

It always is

[proud drift]

And in fact, you don’t need buff knights

[real jacinth]

No I mean ntrk on mando

After pillar drop

[proud drift]

Warfarin e1 + chen s3m3 can kill her

[real jacinth]

I have neither

[proud drift]

There’s other ways to kill her either way

[real jacinth]

Yuh

[proud drift]

Pillars alone can almost kill her p2 entirely

[real jacinth]

I was here for secret tips mostly

[real jacinth]

Yeah but she needs to get to p2 in pillars range

[proud drift]

P1 you can stall and p2 dropping 4 pillars on her leaves her at 2k hp

[real jacinth]

And I have to knock them before she does

[proud drift]

Yeah so stall?

And she only drops them if an operator is in range

[real jacinth]

Oh fr?

I didn't know that part

See this shit Intel fr

[vernal lion]

fr?

[proud drift]

And you can drop a pillar faster because she casts the drop while an operator needs only to execute the pillar to drop it

[vernal lion]

I have said this like 6 times since the boss has been released

[proud drift]

In H9-6 you also can utilize her dropping pillars on herself

[real jacinth]

Wow sorry for not reading your messages

Next time I'll watch your every move

[real jacinth]

By putting an op in execution range?

On her?

[proud drift]

She drops pillars on the ops so if you place an op on her in p2 she will drop the pillar on herself too (she has to walk into it tho)

[proud drift]

Surely he’s gonna read a message from a whole year ago

[little orchid]

i wish somebody told me that a year ago

[vernal lion]

#strategy message

full buff Exu vs. h9-6 Mandra

(no pillar)

[proud drift]

Yeah the new player just needs to quickly obtain all those units and e2 them with masteries

Especially the limited one who’ll never have a banner of her own and should be sparked

@real jacinth do you have strong E2 6* units

such as thorns and mountain?

or even texas alter?

if you played when she came out

[real jacinth]

Naw

I only use based and epicpilled sixers

[proud drift]

sorry I don't speak zoomer lingo

[vernal lion]

I wonder why you should rush for H stages when you haven't gotten enough strong units

[proud drift]

is he rushing H stages

[real jacinth]

I got thorns and surtr but I refuse to use em

Cos it's funnier otherwise

[proud drift]

okay what are your other raised 6* options

[real jacinth]

SA ntrk

[proud drift]

is that all?

[real jacinth]

Miss penance is sidelaning

[proud drift]

penance, good

I can use her

[real jacinth]

Gnosis is insufficient

Right now anyways

I thought tuye was cute and e2d her

Instead of getting his mod

[proud drift]

at the end of the day it's your choice who to E2

Thorns would make your day much easier tho

not for dealing with mandra

but with dealing with half of the stage

[vernal lion]

I mean, it's his deal

[real jacinth]

Yes yes thorns this thorns that

"just use surtrr"

[vernal lion]

I don't want to rude

[proud drift]

no I mean Thorns won't help you solve Mandragora case

[real jacinth]

Screw thorns

[proud drift]

I in fact want to avoid using Surtr

[real jacinth]

Hellagur is coooler

[vernal lion]

welp, let him cook

[real jacinth]

Or maybe gavial the invincible

[proud drift]

I mean consider this

[real jacinth]

My team hasn't failed me yet

[proud drift]

you refuse to use thorns or surtr

but you use NTRK

[real jacinth]

Only my brain capacity

[proud drift]

[real jacinth]

Here's the answer to that

[proud drift]

when you can apply the same argument to NTRK

[real jacinth]

I love nearl

[proud drift]

"NTR that, NTR this"

[real jacinth]

Simple as

I don't use nearl because she's good

I use nearl because she's fucking amazing and hot

https://tenor.com/view/nearl-the-radiant-knight-gif-25640962

And she's got a badass theme song

And she was my first tank that I leveled

Three stars and two stars included

[proud drift]

well w/e I'll cook smth

I kinda just also wanted to remind myself how much ch'en needs to kill her in one rotation

[real jacinth]

I'm gonna make Mando kill herself

This will be funny

[proud drift]

you can't in 9-19

[real jacinth]

Oh

Nevermind then

But I will win

[real jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-i'd-win-gif-7220010602787901432

More than one demo dev woulf be nice

[proud drift]

does kafka remove flying from the flying shits

[vernal lion]

nope

[proud drift]

shit

[vernal lion]

she doesn't target air

[real jacinth]

Kafka?

Her?

Hsr?

[proud drift]

wanted to put penance left side and be like "ok so just kafka the fliers"

[vernal lion]

but her s2 maybe?

[proud drift]

this kafka

[vernal lion]

I didn't use her much

[proud drift]

I'm just thinking how to deal with left side fliers

[real jacinth]

Flow altitude flying is the most annoying trait

[real jacinth]

Literally worse than unblockable

[proud drift]

hmm I have an idea ig

[vernal lion]

it's said "all enemies" but Idk if it does hit air

[real jacinth]

Does mado lose her flying if rock

In p2

[vernal lion]

only when she's flying

so you shouldn't waste pillar when she doesn't

btw, her DR (damage reduction) is for physical and arts dmg only

so just ugh, Amiya s3

and I believe mob is much an issue then the boss itself

for all H stages

(except H12-4, boss is cancer if you don't know how to deal)

[real jacinth]

Mage amiya s3

Is goated

Mage amiya better than sword amiya

Jeez what a disappointment

When I saw it I was like HOLY SHIT

And then the damage was like oh

[vernal lion]

not totally, I still like Amiya guard because she can dodge arts dmg with s1 while dealing better dmg to enemy

[proud drift]

ironically enough sword amiya sees a lot more use

[real jacinth]

Usually she's my last resort though

[proud drift]

only time caster amiya is used is for true damage

[real jacinth]

1 block mid tier damage 🌚

[proud drift]

which is irrelevant owadays because there's other more reliable sources

[vernal lion]

welp I use her for Talulah

but

[real jacinth]

I used her on frostynova

Or did I?

Maybe I'm tripping

[real jacinth]

Black snake?

No way she lives that long

State of the game rn

Ho ho is left side lane holding wit texas

Penance all alone rightside

[vernal lion]

actually,

[real jacinth]

I hate that stage

Haven't passed it yet

[vernal lion]

[proud drift]

shit

gummy + ansel + hibiscus can't stall

[real jacinth]

"get nightengale!!!!"

Nightengale heal good!

[glass monolith]

Random tip: Don't try to "tank" fireballs with S2 Heavyrain

[real jacinth]

Me watching nightengale vaporize

[proud drift]

you do realize

nightingale is there not for heal

[real jacinth]

The lil birds?

[proud drift]

that's a bonus

[real jacinth]

I ain't see no stat buff

Then again I didn't read into it

[proud drift]

[real jacinth]

She's just so boring looking

It just said sanctuary

I didn't realize

The numbers

In that case I'll bring salter along

[proud drift]

now here's a funny reason

why nightingale

vs talulah

[vernal lion]

Tip: Heavyrain s1 had saved my run

[proud drift]

since you're a zoomer that amount of red should be enough

[real jacinth]

I'm aware of the fireballs

Painfully so

[glass monolith]

You aware you MUST tank 4 lanes of them to save civilians who die in 2 and fail run?

[real jacinth]

Roberta

In my opinion

Worst operator

[glass monolith]

We have windflit

[vernal lion]

every op has its own use

[real jacinth]

Yup

[shrewd hinge]

What is this summonerknights gameplay

[real jacinth]

Her use is not using up lmd

[cosmic thicket]

[shrewd hinge]

I love it but pls explain

[glass monolith]

Roberta shield might be hyper niche but she carried my ass before I reached point of killing everything inside red box

[vernal lion]

I mean, I'm a summoner player

all my summoners are max out

[real jacinth]

Is there even an ounce of healing on your team

[shrewd hinge]

@vernal lion let's brew

[glass monolith]

Fuck heals, we regen

[real jacinth]

Silence is heal

[vernal lion]

[shrewd hinge]

Eckogen doesn't think I can summonerknights my way thru h12-4 without medics

[shrewd hinge]

Yesyes

[proud drift]

MAN

I almost cooked

Penance not enough retaliation with S1M0

for kroos to kill fliers

[glass monolith]

La Pluma survived purely on S2 silence alter drone giving her DR making caster do 0 damage long enough for her to kill him

[shrewd hinge]

U think we can do the entirety of ch12 with just summoners (and deployables) and helidrops

[proud drift]

ig I need to employ another 3* sniper

[shrewd hinge]

No medic no defender

[real jacinth]

Just use lappy

[cosmic thicket]

ignoring H stages definitely, H12-3 and H12-4 will be rough

[proud drift]

I mean ideally left side is solo'd by thorns

but since you don't wanna use thorns

I have to improvise

[real jacinth]

thorns is only cool because he's a spaniard

I refuse

[vernal lion]

the boss itself is cancer, no matter how

[real jacinth]

I got lappy Texas and ho ho sidelaning

They do the job

Mostly

[glass monolith]

Also my Roberta use I still remember is giving La Pluma shield in frozen bugs Ifrit carry me plz annihilation where I used device to block caster attack so La Pluma would self sustain on killing buff guys

[vernal lion]

I live till this day just to do this

it feels so good man

[proud drift]

here rice cracka

I made it work with 2 of the ops you have

you'd just have to borrow ch'en

the SAsh is even m0

penance also s1m0

[shrewd hinge]

I'm learning...

[real jacinth]

I already passed with two stars just fine

I need 3

[proud drift]

you now have an infinite stall against cat

[real jacinth]

Borrowing ops is something I also never do

Somewhere on youtube

A man has passed this with just 3 stars

I must be able to do this

[vernal lion]

tbh, the only first time I borrowed an op is for 5-3 hard

and you propably know who did I borrow

[real jacinth]

I lost again

The gaze has ridiculous damage output

[shrewd hinge]

Actually I think 2 healing sources tank that

Wait

[real jacinth]

🌚

[shrewd hinge]

U have 4

Lololol

[proud drift]

E1 60 gummy E1 55 hibiscus E1 55 ansel

couldnt' tank it

dropped an E0 40 gavial

to help

[shrewd hinge]

My friend was able to tank with healer + sideroca

[proud drift]

[shrewd hinge]

Interesting

E1s

[proud drift]

I know less can tank

[real jacinth]

I bet penance could do it

But she sidelanding

[proud drift]

lemme pull up my H9-6 stall

[real jacinth]

I found it funny when I learned that those staff wizards with the red yarn stack panenace when using the stun on her

[proud drift]

my h9-6 stall for cat

all you need is a blebishine

[real jacinth]

Great I have to fight her again

[real jacinth]

I have her

Not leveled though

Cos nearl is cooler

[proud drift]

Her S2 is great for stalling cat

[real jacinth]

[proud drift]

S1 prob works too, but S2 is more reliable as it doesn't get gimped by ASPD reduction from gaze

• her gaze stacks S2 super fast

[real jacinth]

Word

Ines is greatest vangaird

[vernal lion]

Ines has her own tier, can't even compare lol

[proud drift]

how long will it take gummy to punch

thru this much

[vernal lion]

but she's RNG with her talent

[shrewd hinge]

I just realized

Cc12

U can blockshift the boss without a shifter

Wait

[proud drift]

and jsut like that

[shrewd hinge]

Idt it sets a new checkpoint tho

[proud drift]

funny cat dead

[vernal lion]

oh btw, you can just slap all pillars on boss, she will die anyway kekw

[proud drift]

yea ik but I was doing budget setup I've never done before and jsut trying shit out

[vernal lion]

in phase 2 I mean

[proud drift]

granted I used thrm-ex for this but even without thrm-ex there's one extra pillar that could be used

he has NTRK so gargoyles shouldn't be a problem either

they were for me because I forgot about them

[real jacinth]

Tf did you do

[vernal lion]

stall until boss died?

[real jacinth]

Rock bastards aren't the issue

[proud drift]

stall phase1

phase2 drop bonks

[vernal lion]

[real jacinth]

Guh

Genius genius

[proud drift]

tho it was a bit spicy cuz I forgot how much p2 does damage

ch'en almost failed to get her skill out

[real jacinth]

Okay so she's only gonna attack pillars if it kills something yes

[proud drift]

if there's something in range for it yes

[real jacinth]

That's going to make this easy then

[proud drift]

here

[real jacinth]

Nah I got the gist of it

[proud drift]

I overkilled it even

[real jacinth]

That's the missing link

[proud drift]

cuz I had an extra pillar left

I remembered now how I managed to kill mandra super fast in this with just thrm+chen

the side lanes are a bigger pain for me on low rarity

cuz idfk how to handle them

right side is piss ez more or less

left side tho

[vernal lion]

you just need to prepare the pillar by attacking it till 1 hp, then leave it,
when boss is coming to pillar range, just hit it like a tree and drop it on boss

[proud drift]

normally you'd just thorns and some extra maybe

[real jacinth]

Literally the worst non boss unit in the game

Worse then nethersea preds on creep

[proud drift]

what, the shield bros?

[real jacinth]

Flying bastards

Hoberboardees

[proud drift]

hoverboards are very easy

[real jacinth]

Would rather deal with gargoyles

[proud drift]

[vernal lion]

golem

[real jacinth]

They are NOT

You just dont get it

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801

[vernal lion]

because you doesn't have stun/freeze/sleep

it can make them fall

[proud drift]

gnosis S1 should literally carry your whole left side

also sleep does in fact

work against them

you were wrong naga

[vernal lion]

what I wrong about tho

I don't remember

[proud drift]

oh well ig I misinterpreted what you said

or rather I asked incorrectly

I asked if kafka wroks against hoverboards

not if sleep works

[vernal lion]

I SAID it doesn't target air

[proud drift]

yea

[vernal lion]

did you even know what was I talking about

[frozen cedar]

yeah projekt red doesn't work for hovering dudes

I don't know about kafka

[vernal lion]

I totally didn't say that sleep doesn't effect them

[proud drift]

wow almost like

[vernal lion]

even that I have found that when this chapter has been released

[proud drift]

I pointed this out

and corrected myself?

[frozen cedar]

Almost

but you didn't

this is the internet and the only apology is when you committ soduku

[proud drift]

well in naga the blogger's case it might be true

[frozen cedar]

texas hits air, bibeak hits air, cliffheart hits air

erato hits air

[vernal lion]

Erato ofc hit air lol

[proud drift]

either way if the guy still can't kill mandra then it's a skill issue or mindset issue

[vernal lion]

and HG keeps releasing boss with damage reduction

Harold being Kristen v2

[prime trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-eu4-paradox-victoria2-ck3-gif-25741053

[frozen cedar]

are we talking the standard stage or some H stage?

[proud drift]

9-19

[frozen cedar]

challenge or normal?

[proud drift]

normal

[frozen cedar]

when I did normal, I easily killed her with Rosa

cats don't do well when faced with Bears armed with harpoon guns

[proud drift]

cats don't do well when you throw rocks at them either

[frozen cedar]

there aren't enough rocks as I recall for both phases

[proud drift]

phase1 is a non-issue either way

you can stall it

[vernal lion]

but it becomes issue in hard mode

[frozen cedar]

you need alot of resistance to stall phase 1 don't you?

[proud drift]

some arts resistance or a healer defender with some help

E1 60 gummy with E1 55 hibiscus E1 55 ansel wasn't enough unless hibiscus uses skill

E0 40 gavial made it enough

[frozen cedar]

well what I did was shoot a harpoon thru her then redeploy rosa and shot more harpoons thru her after hitting her with some pilliars

[proud drift]

stronger healers or stronger healing defender would work even better

[tidal sedge]

Cardigan + the two 3* medics can stall her 9-19 nm

[proud drift]

blemishine with S2 and ansel+hibiscus can probably stall it

I don't have cardigan raised so can't try her

oh I do have her raised

I just forgot she exists ig

[frozen cedar]

you haven't e2'd your cardigan, shes waiting for her e2 promotion

[vernal lion]

cardigan with her ~2k4 hp

and healing skill

[frozen cedar]

well I just killed her

[proud drift]

I just kinda ignored cardigan's existence

cuz honse

[tidal sedge]

It's more 2.9k hp

[frozen cedar]

if you want HP to stall why not use fish?

[brazen stream]

I see why shiftable air units isn’t a thing, I straight up pulled the boss into the blue box, removing his mechanic completely

[vernal lion]

they are talking about the struggling player

[brazen stream]

Gladiia was behind chongyue, pulled the boss and broke the pathing, made the boss leave the map immediately

[real jacinth]

I didn't even think ab this

Gnosis instead of ho ol it is

More consisten

[vernal lion]

you probaly will need to learn the game

[proud drift]

reading sometimes helps

[frozen cedar]

is rice cracka still malding 9-19?

[vernal lion]

pretty sure he does

[lapis hornet]

hooh usage crazy

[proud drift]

worked so well he 2*'d it

[real jacinth]

Goo goo ga ga aah stall

[proud drift]

yeah that works

don't forget to undeploy healers and nearl when she dies tho

[real jacinth]

Yah

That's the plan

She gonna get a mouthful of rock

GET SHIT ON RAAAAGHHHHHHG

Deserved death

I'll do it again

I lied

I will not do that

[radiant plinth]

it do be like that sometimes

[proud drift]

it's not so bad

just her gaze isn't very stallable

[real jacinth]

With two med ops on nearl, impossible

[proud drift]

you can still drop a rock and surtr it or sth if you want the easy way out

[real jacinth]

But with three....

[proud drift]

then drop a rock again with other units and murder her p2 somehow

[real jacinth]

It doesn't say the p2 has more hp or anything

[proud drift]

you might also want all 4 pillars for cm

[real jacinth]

Yeah

Not right now

[proud drift]

she does indeed have more hp in CM

[real jacinth]

The hexagon is filled

And so is my mind

I move on now

[proud drift]

at least i'm p.sure CM stat modifiers affects bosses too

[real jacinth]

Ion need white hexagons yet

Still easier than partot

Wendigo we got like 15 mines