strategy

[boreal magnet]

my strat including survavibility with ptil

[polar crane]

well have fun watching the shrek movie

[jovial nest]

hmmm I am itching to raise some 4* just because they don't have glue issues

[boreal magnet]

tbh i tried with perfurmer/silence but theyre soon oblirated

on to shrek movie then

[deft badger]

isn't spuria like one of the worst ops in the game? only frostleaf is worst then her 😂

[glass monolith]

Windflit is worse and you not changing my mind

[deft badger]

i forgot that op even exists 😄

[vernal lion]

they're worse in their rarity, but not in using
when I need them, they will be useful

[glass monolith]

Frostleaf module will be 3x4 range, just you wait

[primal spoke]

Who would be faster at dealing with the mechas in POO at max HP, chalter or Ifrit?

[deft badger]

don't know how u plan on using a op that self stuns her self and the sniper u wanna buff lol

but i am looking foreword to see

[glass monolith]

Leakage. Also Ceobe RES ignore module stage 2 at least

[deft badger]

https://youtu.be/763iJ9EYMSw?t=51

did skip to the important part lol

[spark sinew]

buffers are always like that

do you bring them or do you bring another dps instead?

in spuria's case, she's a 5* so she's not even a that good of a buffer
and there's nothing really broken for her to buff

[primal spoke]

Don’t have a lot of Operators sadly but figured out a strat that works by stalling so going with it lol

[deft badger]

what do u mean they are always like that, krooster spend more time under cc then shooting lol

[spark sinew]

and she only buffs one target and does nothing besides that

contrast it with suzuran

[spark sinew]

why would you use spuria on krooster...

disclaimer, didn't watch the vid

[deft badger]

my point is i would never use her 😄

[spark sinew]

i did say that

rosa kinda deadge right now

[deft badger]

i don't understand why they even put a stun in to the skill, it just doesn't make sense to have it
skill stats are ok its worst then aak's skill, which would be ok since she is a lower rarity op

[spark sinew]

oh, fia s3 huh

[spark sinew]

5* tax

they don't really care about making them viable so

just throw shit at the wall

see what sticks

she's designed as a pure helidrop

[deft badger]

still doesn't make sense to make something that's useless in the end, literally wasted time

[spark sinew]

not sure if they just want to keep self sustain to aak or

[spark sinew]

you gotta design new operator regardless, because you need a 5* on banner

imagine it's like filler cards in mtg

(it's not that bad, but both exist because ultimately you need to print new cards/ops)

[deft badger]

i do understand what u mean, but zero purpose she is literally useless this way, wasted working hours here lol

[spark sinew]

oh she has a usage
E: but is she the most efficient use of your team slot? not really

but she's a 5* supporter, so unless their kit is insane (shamare Elysium cough cough) for a team full of 6* it's just dead on arrival

[deft badger]

she seems to be good only if u buff a slow shooting op like chalter

[peak cloak]

i mean, in short, just about situational.

[deft badger]

pozy

[vernal lion]

I will test Spuria with Typhon s3, if she can sync with Typhon skill, then she's good

[spark sinew]

pozy is not slow shooting

[peak cloak]

man, buy me some baguette than spend your time to agruing here lol

[deft badger]

slow shooting enough to not turn her in to useless s- since she is going to be stuned

[spark sinew]

god forbid people have conversations

[deft badger]

we are talking not arguing 😄

[spark sinew]

s3 reduces her attack interval

[vernal lion]

Spuria s2m3 is 40 sp cost, Typhon s3m3 is also 40 sp cost,
now I just need in 20 sec, Typhon can shoot all her 10 ammo, then it's good

[peak cloak]

alright;(

[spark sinew]

are besiegers tanky enough to survive aak with just skalter s2?

no way, right

[vernal lion]

no

200 x 15 > 1700 hp

can't survive without Shining mod or without def skill on

flinger and heavyshooter are 2 sniper archetypes with decent def, usually between 180 to 250

[deft badger]

ok did even write it down in the comments

pozy not good, but she looking fine in that video...

[lethal dragon]

https://youtu.be/Jdw4qlz3zhg

[deft badger]

amm what is thiss???

[spark sinew]

holy buff army

[spark sinew]

texas?

[deft badger]

why are her swords red

[vernal lion]

new skin?

[deft badger]

really? 😄

nice

[spark sinew]

man the auto recovery is so stupid, with such cd

[deft badger]

hahaha she didn't even get to spawn the last clone

did try with the old tags and m3

doesn't need any help she and lumen heal all of it without problems lol

pinch out

[peak cloak]

new skin, man, it will come to En over 5 months later

[deft badger]

will be the first skin i buy in the game

i like it

[vernal lion]

we really need an op with ability to lower block count of enemy

[peak cloak]

better version of Heidi?

[vernal lion]

test on this dude

the reason is I want to test Vigil's wolfpack with this dude

[bitter cedar]

which ability should i use

im new to the game

just promoted him

the aoe heal or big heal

[real oracle]

2nd one can come in clutch

Aim for s3 the moment u e2 him

[bitter cedar]

what does his 3rd skill do

and i should use his 3rd skill

[real oracle]

If you're new, e2 is far far away

3rd skill basically increases atk and atk speed for heals

Iirc

It has 8 charges, consuming one to remove cc

E.g stuns

But if your units never get stunned

It's basically a permanent buff

[bitter cedar]

the aoe seemed strong so far

but i cant choose

bc the aoe heals multiple ppls

[real oracle]

Different maps require different ops

[somber falcon]

If you want an aoe medic
Just take an aoe medic

[real oracle]

It really just depends on the situation

[spark sinew]

don't focus on "6* = must raise" btw

[vernal lion]

especially those who can't attack

[spark sinew]

lumen is okay i suppose, but that thinking will delay your early progress by a lot

focusing on e2ing your 4* operator (singular) will make you reach a big powerspike fast

[real oracle]

6 stars are really expensive to raise

[bitter cedar]

ikik

i just wanted to know which will be better for him

[glass monolith]

Well Silence alter can techically attack

[bitter cedar]

skill 1 or 2

[spark sinew]

people won't give you an easy answer because it depends (and because at e2 his other skills basically hold almost no value, you just run s3)

run whatever you like more

[bitter cedar]

that is the problem

tried both but for me both are good

im confused >#<

[real oracle]

If you're an afk gamer

S1

[spark sinew]

i'll help you then, run s1

[real oracle]

If u think u need to clutch heals or something

S2

[vernal lion]

you're just not in hard stage yet

when you play in higher level, you will decide what is the best to use

[somber falcon]

Almost all skill is virtually "good" if you test it on early game setting

[bitter cedar]

i dont use auto play

i manage my team myself

[real oracle]

Afk player just means relying on skills that activate themselves

[bitter cedar]

i barely use such skills

[vernal lion]

you need an auto for every stage to farm for material lol

you don't have free time for doing each time

[bitter cedar]

i still do em myself xd

[vernal lion]

you're still new

[somber falcon]

150 minutes of manual anni each week, fun

[real oracle]

I highly do not recommend doing manual everytime

You'll burn yourself out

[bitter cedar]

but i love using ash as a supp hero

i really want her so i cant stop myself from using her

[real oracle]

She isn't going anywhere if u have whoever has them as a friend

You're gonna treat the game more like a chore at some point

[bitter cedar]

hmh..true..

you do got a point

[real oracle]

Gacha games like arknights shouldn't be played manually when grinding hard

You'll reach a point where you have to farm 1-7 for days

[spark sinew]

people learn the hard way ||let them ||

[glass monolith]

I have 3 states - Farm event, Farm AP-5 and "What do you mean AP-5 is closed?"

[real oracle]

Why are chips so expensive to grind for

[spark sinew]

farm skill books/chips 👍

[real oracle]

[glass monolith]

If you think AK farm is bad, try Re1999 farm 30% drop rate resources and time gated materials all over the place

[real oracle]

I'm playing it

Considering that for most units i250 is all u need, it's pretty generous

[peak cloak]

not rlly.

[real oracle]

I need like 12 e2 guard chips rn

And I have 3

[glass monolith]

ONLY 12

[peak cloak]

we have over 1 dead week. and u just split.

[glass monolith]

If you have 9CD, it is crafting time, if you don't have 9CD, 9CD rerun is real, just wait

[peak cloak]

and the game is so kind tbh, game allows u to exhcange chips for 3:2 ratio

[deft badger]

aren't we getting a new auto system?

run couple of them with one button?

[real oracle]

I don't have the red certs too

[glass monolith]

We are getting "repeat auto up to 6 times" with 1 press

[deft badger]

lol

[glass monolith]

And it is like - Repeat. Same as if we camp to restart stage

[peak cloak]

only available in cn for now.

[real oracle]

Imagine they only let use that for 1-7

[spark sinew]

you probably shouldn't use ncd for chips anyway

like, ig you must convert, sure

[deft badger]

i would like to know the logic behind that

[spark sinew]

but long term just stockpiling is better

[real oracle]

^

[glass monolith]

Outside of me who is crazy enough to launch 6 repeats of Anni in row you won't have enough sanity to do anything bigger

[deft badger]

the game isn't competitive so yeah zero logic making people watch auto's

[real oracle]

Why don't u just use the free anni thing

[spark sinew]

behind what, not converting?

[glass monolith]

Because some idiot didn't claim before server reset and now 1 short on them

[deft badger]

auto run, that its not like anni press button done

[spark sinew]

playtime padding

[timid schooner]

do not ask me to stall tks

[glass monolith]

12 e2 defender chips. 2 e1 defender chips... Defender chips closed.... Fuck my life

[timid schooner]

riel

[deft badger]

people spend doing other stuff as well then just wasting sanity and if they like to just come in to the game for that 5min pick daily waste sanity let them do it maybe they don't have the time to spend the day on it

[bitter cedar]

btw is lumen second skill mean that he passively heals 2 heroes at once

or its only when his skill charges up

[glass monolith]

Skill effect is healing up to 2 targets on use

[real oracle]

Charged is to remove cc

[spark sinew]

i understand what you mean, but again
what's the profit for HG in that

[deft badger]

the way auto run works is the reason i use teamviewer 😄

never running the game on my phone

[spark sinew]

reduced player metrics?

[glass monolith]

Passive skills, which are not much, like Gravel, Project Red, Manticore etc are either active for X seconds after deployment or active for all time without need to activate it

[spark sinew]

making the game into literally 1 minute dump your sanity and bail can hurt the overall image

[copper sun]

I know SN is over but why is Hoshiguma so good at tanking the ranged attacks there?

[deft badger]

past 2 months i was just dumping sanity when we did have a dead week.. there was 1 i think since chong or 2 maybe
anyway what do they get if i am today 1 hour online or 10?

[real oracle]

Global thorn thingy when on infected tile

[glass monolith]

Because highest DEF after Nian who is limited among healable defenders during S2 which is passive?

[dusky grove]

The ranged dudes have shit def

So the reflect from hoshi actually deals good dmg

[spark sinew]

some stages also had them away from harm/in stealth

hoshi would bypass that

[deft badger]

where is the announcement for exe event

[spark sinew]

didn't you already renounce him

[hardy fog]

is there any 6* worth leveling in general

[real oracle]

No

Go for 3 stars

Jk

Don't use vigil or silence

Rest is good

[hardy fog]

ok

[real oracle]

Some are very niche tho

[spark sinew]

gnosis, but you missed one of his strongest events
aak is an option depending on your units
blemi hoshi saga
pass is okay with module

[hardy fog]

gnosis in SN?

[spark sinew]

yeah
he's overall solid unit, but shined in SN

[real oracle]

Cc stops dodge

Basically

[spark sinew]

he also just stunlocks the boss forever

because of the little handy buffs

[real oracle]

Why stunlock when u can just kill them the moment it spawns

[spark sinew]

oh yeah, raise your base units

[real oracle]

^

Some 3 stars and 4 stars

For base

[glass monolith]

I sleep

SP increases risk applied to asleep mecs
I WOKE

[spark sinew]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/vYD7WJfP9kz154YZfMlInDzTfG7lqph9B9NxbW-PSUc/https/i.imgur.com/MVtzwwD.png?format=webp&quality=lossless

amazing q

ty discord

[sullen rover]

wow hd version

[tough kayak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/434668021286567948/1183042789353721926/Screenshot_20231209-074855.png?ex=6586e574&is=65747074&hm=37f13c466e11c7ee37c94642487f4d9780d3ed0880fa0f879488bc772f0b1095&

[spark sinew]

it's okay, discord just compressed it to shit

[tough kayak]

what would be good for chapter 5

[spark sinew]

you can open the original and it would look fine

[spark sinew]

for ch5 you can roll over it with current team easily

[deft badger]

what does tp mean?

[spark sinew]

if you e2 QB, keep in mind she wants m3

[dusky grove]

Trading post

[deft badger]

whit that u can do like everything, did have a much worst team went up to 10

e2 reed first f- QB for now

[spark sinew]

hm?

oh yeah don't just raise 6* because they're shiny

[dusky grove]

Wdym

[deft badger]

nah QB is ok

[spark sinew]

like silence and 5* reed are some...weird raises

[dusky grove]

Most 6 stars are def worth raising

[deft badger]

but reed is his highest pushing dps op

[dusky grove]

Also qiubai is a great 6 stars to build

[spark sinew]

all 6* are fine, but people sometimes hold too tight into "6* = better than 5*"

[dusky grove]

But

[deft badger]

do those 2 😄

[dusky grove]

It's

True for most op

[spark sinew]

i disagree with silence here for example

[dusky grove]

Within archetype it very much applies

[spark sinew]

you should build stuff for roles you need

[deft badger]

hey silence did help me do that stupid thing lol

[spark sinew]

not because it got higher stars than alternative

[dusky grove]

Well building abjurer is their fault

[spark sinew]

especially applies to 5*

[glass monolith]

You still won't need silence alter outside stupid things

[spark sinew]

og reed is sad as fuck

[dusky grove]

Within abjurer arch silence is definitely the best

[spark sinew]

is she

[deft badger]

still i guess its nice to have her

[dusky grove]

Honestly

[deft badger]

its nice that i have u who has her lol 😛

[dusky grove]

Unless you are bored

I really don't recommend silence

💀

Silence medic is pogger tho

[deft badger]

my is kinder broken lol

[dusky grove]

Made for based players

[deft badger]

me thinking i don't need that op

[dusky grove]

Bro...

[spark sinew]

you don't

[dusky grove]

My man gave away

[spark sinew]

go raise your lower stars my guy

[dusky grove]

Gold certs

Real shit

[spark sinew]

oh god p1

wtf

[dusky grove]

Yours is absolutely broken

[deft badger]

who the hell knows if i am even going to play till next year

[dusky grove]

Wow

[spark sinew]

so you got like

[dusky grove]

Perfect counterargument

[spark sinew]

20k lmd instead?

[dusky grove]

Maybe I will drop

[deft badger]

yes got something that i am going to need right now lol

don't know what i have been doing and why i didn't wanna get the pots for her

but i did have to borrow silence from Minus for pinchout lol

she was useful

[near basalt]

Hey guys is cc op worth e2

[spark sinew]

which

although from my memory it's just scene, and then the answer is "maybe"
she has her usage + very good in base

[deft badger]

lol

again

[glass monolith]

I see less Seniors than Tops

[deft badger]

thats just 5 star -.-

[supple widget]

Need help with Patriot I can kill him phase one but the rush afterwards kills me plus it takes Mon3tr and Mlynar minimum to do it

I originally thought I'll just Mlynar before his first move but that went horribly

[glass monolith]

Let me guess everyone stand around Mlynar and get mortaled to death

[deft badger]

bring surtr

xD

[somber falcon]

5 e2s and 2 capped

[deft badger]

why not, surtr needs zero planning

[gray stone]

Do you have E2 Amiya

[ashen juniper]

the fact that 4 ops are so built and then the rest is e1...
generally speaking true damage is good so mlynar/amiya e2 etc

[gray stone]

So no

You have both Kal and Mweenur tho

[supple widget]

I place monster on the ground tile in front and to the left of the alter and Mlynar behind him then just true damage brrr him

[ashen juniper]

also dont underestimate landmines

[supple widget]

I'll admit I'm lazy when it comes to raising units lol

[gray stone]

Patrick takes a long time to reach the box so you can just kill him within multiple deploys

[peak cloak]

u can lets Mlynar finish Patriot phase one(hope u have enough dmg) (usually Mlynar high mastery + mine debuff can)

then set bait, and lets Amiya kill him from distance ,remember to set a mine debuff as well.

u have Kaltsit too!

[somber falcon]

basically spec solo laneholding 💀

[supple widget]

She tries her best

Ptilopsis moment

[deft badger]

me trying since a year to get her

budget ptilo... 🙂

when did we get that skin?

[somber falcon]

stories of afternoon

[supple widget]

She got that B R E A D

[sullen rover]

skin worse than e2 art ngl

[deft badger]

can't be picky after all i own only free skins

did have to resist hard when i saw that spalter skin

[peak cloak]

Error occurs.

[deft badger]

i am going to fail when they give us that texas skin, i am getting it for sure lol

https://gamepress.gg/arknights/sites/arknights/files/2023-10/TexalterSkinGIFS2.gif

https://gamepress.gg/arknights/sites/arknights/files/2023-10/TexalterSkinGIFBase.gif

[lethal dragon]

I hate her normal atk animation

[deft badger]

they could have done better

[lethal dragon]

Skipping it
Hoping for another ling case

[deft badger]

i love that she has those wolves but u don't see them in the animation

[spark sinew]

wasting OP on Dusk's skin saved me a lot of it in the long run

i was so disappointed in it now i'm way pickier skins wise

[lethal dragon]

Oh yeah w nian dusk

Actually don't mind I misunderstood and forgor

[lethal dragon]

Ling in my case

Now skipping both Texas and młynar skin

[deft badger]

best animation for me has blemi actually
https://gamepress.gg/arknights/sites/arknights/files/inline-images/BlemshineS3GIF.gif

that s3 looks nice

[jovial nest]

the only reason I'm not buying Tex2's skin is because her og outfit just looks better

[stuck ermine]

texalter skin s2 attack look like dude swinging stick like dummy

[deft badger]

https://gamepress.gg/arknights/sites/arknights/files/inline-images/TexasTheOmertosaGIFS2.gif

it could have been done better

really looks like trash compared to some non alter ops that are not even limited lol

skill on swords are not glowing she sheaths them all the time and where is the wolf

[spark sinew]

that's not skin attack

[deft badger]

s3 animation doesn't look better

u see non of this...

[spark sinew]

||i use e0 ||

no need for wolves

there's enough visual diarrhea on everything else

that you sometimes can't see anything

[spark sinew]

oh yeah speaking of
skins that make skills/passives less visible...

Mr Nothing or Surtr1 come to mind

[glass monolith]

My plan for skins currenty is yeet 3 skins from touch grass collab

[spark sinew]

which one is it

mh?

[glass monolith]

Ling QB Franka

[spark sinew]

oh the geography one

hopefully we'll get it

[deft badger]

what i wanna see her do with her swords... https://i.pinimg.com/originals/21/10/34/211034f61e12c26ee4b55c961b524674.gif

[glass monolith]

Oh right i forgot when is Bnuuy in space?

[peak cloak]

Guard Amiya? it's been 5 months in CN so it's coming to en, so

[deft badger]

what are u guys talking about?

that thing?

[peak cloak]

unknown c++ codes

[deft badger]

are they planning on buffing amiya at a point? 😄

[spark sinew]

no

we might get another class though

or if you mean guard version (which is fine, strong enough) then she can get module

i think this skin is for guard only anyway

[peak cloak]

what class u think it might become true?

[spark sinew]

🔮

if you want predictions, i predict it's not caster or guard

[peak cloak]

xD, yea yea ,i get it

[deft badger]

atm she is meh i would like to use her but yeah.. don't wanna call her trash

[glass monolith]

Bnuuy supporter who is summoner with bnuuy dolls

[crisp bolt]

I still am of the belief guardmiya skin isn't coming to EN

[peak cloak]

~~ i will form an Army and invade HG's HQ for sure. ~~

[crisp bolt]

blame the US for that one

[peak cloak]

yesnt

[limpid siren]

she'll become a 6* at some point

when it's story appropriate

[spark sinew]

i hope they won't rarity bump previous amiyas

[limpid siren]

seems likely they'll keep going the way they have

she'll get an alternate version at story appropriate moments

but who knows

just my guess

[deft badger]

deleted by ifrit lol

[bitter cedar]

heyoooo

i got a new hero that seems amazing on appper

is she actually good

reading her skills she seems suuuuuper useful

[polar crane]

yeah she's good

[bitter cedar]

yay

[gentle finch]

meow

[vernal lion]

Professional Breeder

[glass monolith]

Most people in H11-4: Several 6* to stall boss out
Dr Silvergun: Best i can do is 1 Crab and 1 Gravel

[versed arrow]

1 hoshi or even 1 coura+shamare is enough to block that boss, the rest is for dps . using multiple 6 star just to stall is kinda

[spark sinew]

hoshi died when i tried

that was before her modules though, iirc

[spark sinew]

without adequate support*
but using shining and skalter and whatever else you can make anything tank, with enough bufferss

[versed arrow]

you need nian if before mod, e2 90 hoshi without mod survives 90-99% of the time till you get the bad rng where she didnt dodge all the 3 hit combo

source: my 4 day worth of practice plan on that stage

[latent anvil]

e260 hoshi survives just fine if she dodges some hits

[spark sinew]

i mean yeah, i spoke from experience as well

[deft badger]

what happens if ur light drops to 0? 😄

[glass monolith]

Depends on context, IRL you will starve without fridge. In IS3 you will get 40 curses and kicked to death by seaborn

[gentle finch]

what's teta's tag again

I need to ask him something

@turbid badge

qiubai S2 or S1

[turbid badge]

ask wgz

[spark sinew]

both are so garbage

[gentle finch]

didnt ask

[spark sinew]

s1 is probably worse

idc if you asked

[gentle finch]

ok

[turbid badge]

it depends on context but yeah ill rather do s2m3, s1 doesnt see as much usage as s2 or s3 tbh

[gentle finch]

alright

S2 it is

[latent anvil]

S1M3 is fine for me

[turbid badge]

yeah

[spark sinew]

i have m6

[turbid badge]

5-> 4 sp

[latent anvil]

It's like a kinda worse arts dmg horn

[spark sinew]

i would say no one should do s2

[latent anvil]

I mean s2 isn't so bad either

You have to cope so hard to use either skill anyway

[turbid badge]

s2 for me is just like a consistent laneholding skill if i cant consistently use s3

[spark sinew]

there's no reason to use it unless you're doing like qiubai tower

[turbid badge]

yeah

[spark sinew]

i can just put an operator that does a better job instead

[gentle finch]

gets boring

[latent anvil]

Well it's actually okay to help hold a far away lane

S2

But this is like niche knights low ops clear kinda thing

[spark sinew]

2 executors existing kinda makes it so unbelievably niche

[turbid badge]

ethan op

just raised

[spark sinew]

actual melee schwarz range cope

[latent anvil]

Well if u gonna use tex ya2 then most skill are trash

[spark sinew]

i mean s3 is solid

[gentle finch]

i only use them when I give up trying to do a niche clear

[latent anvil]

Yea but why would I ever use the best skill for an op gotta use the funny one

[gentle finch]

real

[spark sinew]

personally i want to use op for full potential

[turbid badge]

s2 when theres a straight line is always nice https://youtu.be/jtGlkQ6Zoj8?si=D1Ev8SC0KlRo8-Fy, https://youtu.be/YxzCLOVYLCI?si=FcjgohjMpgSq_T3L

[gentle finch]

full potential is M9

:tf:

[turbid badge]

full potential in base

just e2 lvl 1 fr

[spark sinew]

full potential is recognizing their drawbacks

[gentle finch]

for me I want the op to be fun to use

I'd always M3 their best skill

but if im building someone like qiubai who has a cool S2

I would wanna use that too

[spark sinew]

you don't want to have this convo

[gentle finch]

die

so sad

[spark sinew]

now i can get actually good m3 sooner

[latent anvil]

did someone say e2 lvl 1

[gentle finch]

idk what happened to Irene

[latent anvil]

[gentle finch]

I used to legitimately use her a lot

now she's dead

[latent anvil]

degenbrach coming

irene stonks down

[turbid badge]

ayo nice wtf i did m1 on tomimi earlier

[gentle finch]

I forgot but exalter is coming up

[latent anvil]

tomimi that op is like

seriously too bad for me

[spark sinew]

she's also mod2

[turbid badge]

now shes actually someone that i cant leave at m2

cuz at m3 its 100%

(i need her to crit)

[spark sinew]

it all started with a very careless message

but now ig i can play chuzenji ops

or something

[turbid badge]

same

i was looking into that

enforcers not raised sadly

[spark sinew]

my enforcer even has mod because of cc12

next chuzenji op is Vivi

[turbid badge]

( i also havent raised pozy )

[spark sinew]

when your best arts damage is glad3
at least pozy can still hit through defense

[turbid badge]

温泉瓜 ops are something i was looking into aswell tbh i always thought they looked really similar to each other and realized they were from the same artist

[spark sinew]

they hit a big powerspike with qb

ok i can't unsee now

[spark sinew]

i found out that they have the same artist after i maxed 2 of the units and then decided to look up the artist for some arts, potentially

[glass monolith]

Only reason i won't post that FBI gif in here is because this server not into gif spam in serious (sometimes) chats

[spark sinew]

do mods even visit this channel

[turbid badge]

the mod that did diseappear

Tokis art look pretty sinilar too

its just the eyes

stare at me the same soul

[spark sinew]

iirc they dropped ak?
i remember something about lisk skins being done by diff artist

[turbid badge]

Yea

diff artist

overload skin

is by cenm0

[spark sinew]

jessalter also changed artist hmm

jank as hell

but

[turbid badge]

but

[polar crane]

but

[trail crag]

Just to ask to get more Opinions, i still have a Senior Op training Apparatus to get a 5 star operators at E2 to max. Level.
Im currently thinking about which Operator would be worth, i wanted it to either use on La Pluma, Silence, Nearl, Red, Manticore.. i also have many others. Which one would be worth to get to max. Level?
The ones in the Screenshot are all my 5 stars i currently have at E2 already.

[spark sinew]

i think you can only use it on e2 ops

it basically just saves you lmd and exp cost

[polar crane]

yeah they said from e2 to max

[spark sinew]

melee physical ops are the ones who benefit the most (by the virtue of needing all stats)

[tidal sedge]

Last two spear knights killed my Monst3r and i had no DP to deploy...

[trail crag]

I know how they work, i already bought 3 of them for 6 star Ops, but i got the one for 5 stars for the first Time this Time 😅

[polar crane]

who did you borrow for this one?

[tidal sedge]

Ambriel

[polar crane]

buh

[spark sinew]

hope you force quit

[tidal sedge]

...

[polar crane]

you want to kill both the boss at the same time

[tidal sedge]

Mine isnt leveled

[polar crane]

if 1 of them die the other become really angry

[tidal sedge]

Ok

[spark sinew]

why would you want ambriel here though

[polar crane]

you better off borrow gg or mlynar

gg is 1000% better than ambriel

[trail crag]

Try to get Blaze instead of Ambriel and place her in the northern Lane, if possible at high level. You can even place her behind M3nster with her second Skill 🤔
Or as others mentioned Mylnar or a Caster like Goldenglow

[tidal sedge]

It was working up till that point

[polar crane]

the 2 boss they stand still for pretty long

[spark sinew]

in case you don't know, force quiting during anni returns sanity in full

[polar crane]

you can just mlynar both and it free

if you can only kill 1 then focus the bow guy

[tidal sedge]

They dont appear at the same time tho

[glass monolith]

Until GG get screwed by map having like 10 taunt enemies while enemy rushing your blue box being low def

[polar crane]

oh yeah I vaguely remember that

[spark sinew]

good thing you have 12 other ops

[polar crane]

anyway just borrow gg and it pretty much solved

I thought you have problem with the 2 boss

[deft badger]

bro what are those maps

saw like 3-4 of them i never seen before

[glass monolith]

Welcome to DLC to IS3 i guess?

[deft badger]

couple more lvls and i am done with this anyway...
have been playing isnce 3 hours IS

and watching this

[glass monolith]

All this new shit was added like as POO started

So it possible to even max out monthly before it

[tidal sedge]

This is bs...

[turbid badge]

stun boom boom?

[glass monolith]

Did you kill melee bro too slow and ranged activated instakill?

[turbid badge]

x4

[spark sinew]

stack more dp

you have 2 vanguards even

[tidal sedge]

Yes but i only have so many drployable units

To field what i need it doesnt work

[tidal sedge]

Idk.

[spark sinew]

8 slots is not enough for you?

[tidal sedge]

For both vgs? No.

Not with how im trying to do this

Unles i dont deploy medics

I dont see how i can keep them on for that long

[turbid badge]

use the stun boom boom there fixed

[tidal sedge]

Do you not see the amount of dp i have?

[turbid badge]

well yeah its for later

[tidal sedge]

👍

[turbid badge]

you could of just got gotten more dp

like save a bit more

thats what i always do tbh in annis

[tidal sedge]

I see

[turbid badge]

the stun is crazy long

[tidal sedge]

But if i have vgs out i cant field my medics

[turbid badge]

you basically make them not apart of the map for 48 seconds

if u use all 4

[tidal sedge]

Then Eyja gets shot to hell by the crossbows

[spark sinew]

you have 9 slots total, from my very brief glance, no?

[turbid badge]

placement issue? and deployment order can help

[tidal sedge]

Im putting eyjs on the AA tile

[turbid badge]

honestly your melee units should be strong enough regardless just need ranged to catch the drones that give you stuff like boom boom

[tidal sedge]

Theres no other good place

[tidal sedge]

Thats why i was bringing ambriel or GG

[turbid badge]

u dont need gg

just borrow mlynar

[tidal sedge]

...

And then the drones get away

[turbid badge]

in that map you usually just deploy a marksmen ( always targets drones ) than get the drone rewards and redeploy

idk why ur using eyja

[tidal sedge]

To clear the mob waves

[turbid badge]

ah well shouldnt be too difficult

just save more dp

i like how you didnt deploy texas once smh

she can also get the drones

[tidal sedge]

How

[turbid badge]

oh wait nvm

i dont think she can reach

[tidal sedge]

Nope

I never got the chance to

Deploy texalter

[tidal sedge]

Where would i put him

Also i tried using a marksman once, and the crossbows got her very quickly

[spark sinew]

do you deploy your casters/snipers last?

[tidal sedge]

No

...maybe

[spark sinew]

||i know that you do ||

[tidal sedge]

Lol

[deft badger]

hahahaha

[grave onyx]

I need help for pinch out

I can’t seem to tank early stage for 540

[glass monolith]

Too few context, how early we talk about and what you using both risk and team wise?

And if surviving is issue, avoid extra ranged robot with ATK risks

[grave onyx]

Lemme share sshots

[supple widget]

Death of a patriot?? More like death of me

[grave onyx]

This is cc all over again

[supple widget]

It's always the zerg rush during his transformation to phase 2

[grave onyx]

I need help

My team can’t do enough dmg

And my mudrock can’t solo the engineers

[spark sinew]

levels are a bit low

[grave onyx]

I’m sorry what

[spark sinew]

I'm joking
are you opposed to doing a guide?

[grave onyx]

Nope

But I have no resources so I’d rather not upgrade characters

[spark sinew]

something like that

[spark sinew]

don't take dorothy 40% attack for example

[grave onyx]

K

This game is pain

[spark sinew]

taking caster/whatever cost up is also good, if you have ops (saria, nearl?) borrow mlynar

[grave onyx]

Don’t have saria

Do you have Another guide

I don’t have half of these operators on that list

[spark sinew]

what do you have

[grave onyx]

Lemme just try it

My bagpipe just died

I can’t do this

[gleaming lodge]

Can't do what ?

You could beat the game with your eyes closed with a squad like this

Assuming most of them have M3

[grave onyx]

Help me pls

I’m not smart

I have mush brain

[glass monolith]

Those 2 risks are like big no no to most physical damage sources in game

[grave onyx]

The 2 30s right?

[glass monolith]

DEF and ally ATK

[grave onyx]

K

[gleaming lodge]

Maybe you want to ramp up more slowly as well

Going from 150 to 550 is quite the leap

Also, Bagpipe is dying ??

[grave onyx]

I’m tryna complete the mission 540

[glass monolith]

+120% ATK, she get dogged outside S3

[grave onyx]

I’ve done everything else

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah well, if you're going for that you need a different approach to the opening

idk about this map specifically
But in general taking global ATK and HP is a really bad idea

[glass monolith]

Youtube recommendation feed me this video with dodging Dorothy and abusing the fact that SP risk increase how much robots need to consume to wake up (As well as prematurely putting robots to 1 HP to kill them on wake up) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cf_FgCJqt4

[gleaming lodge]

Are we going straight for guide copying

[grave onyx]

I’m fine with anything

I’m desperate

[glass monolith]

Well no need to copy, maybe cope some insparation

Like i took Reno D's 540 AH only with funny 3 robot stall
And somehow end up face tanking 440% ATK Dorothy with Silence alter 600

"Morale of the story - craft shit together until it works" Sseth

[grave onyx]

aight then

wish me luck

[fringe jackal]

I watched https://youtube.com/watch?v=keC3rSbDNsU and was able to clear with basically the same units as yours. Borrow mylnar. Take the risks that don't increase enemy attack that much. Don't take the dorothy -2 life risk unlike the video. Take like 3 healers and suzuran. Step 1 I flagpiped with myrtle and elysium if you have him. Step 2 I put surtr down to kill the top robot. Step 3 I place mlynar. Step 4 I place kaltsit and mont3r using mont3r as one of the defenders and healing defender. Step 5 healers and mudrock. Step 6 suzuran. Now spam mlynar and suzuran. If someone dies replace it. At the end surtr will come of cooldown and someone will probably die so surtr the end of the congo line. Then undeploy everything and leak 2 robots

[grave onyx]

k

[timid schooner]

every ranged vanguard is good

except that wolf mafia boy

[bitter cedar]

xd oki

[bitter halo]

is the daily tag opening in 4 days give easy ones in poo

[bitter halo]

wait thats a low star operator 600 clear

im copying if thats fine

[deft badger]

do u really wanna stall them for like 3 hours lol

[fringe jackal]

wait until the dorothy risks come out for an easier time

I only shared it with Ultramate because for 540 you don't need to stall

once the two other sets of risks come out those are free points especially the dorothy risks

[deft badger]

how does ur squad look like btw?

[fringe jackal]

I'm lacking defenders so I'm just waiting for the free risks

cleared 540 and stopped right after it

[deft badger]

u don't own a defender?

[fringe jackal]

I have mudrock
and I've been using kal instead of a defender

[deft badger]

atm i can put my liskarm there and she will hold

[fringe jackal]

so I have to borrow saria or whatever

I could probably clear 600... if I had patience

but I know that the ez risks are coming

[deft badger]

only must is mlynar

"must" he makes it just a walk in the park

[fringe jackal]

especially with the doro risks since you can let her leak anyway

that's at least 35-40 extra score there without changing anything

[spark sinew]

you 100% don't want to buff her attack

[fringe jackal]

yeh I will probably skip her attack buff

[deft badger]

u can xD

blemi s3m3 has the perfect timing to heal ur team to the win

[spark sinew]

blemi s3 won't help you there

[deft badger]

proves to me that u didn't watch the video i did link to u 3 days ago lol

[spark sinew]

now imagine you buff her attack even more

[deft badger]

that was with m1, i did it yesterday with m3

m3 has the perfect up time

for the moment doro enters range till she leaves blemis skill is on

mlynar doesn't die

[spark sinew]

uhuh

i mean if you really want to prove me wrong

wait for +atk risk and then pick it

[deft badger]

i think we are talking about two different things right now

have been talking about the tags we got at the start

u probably mean full atk buffing them xD

don't even wanna imagine that

[deft badger]

her...

if u mean this

she heals it

[spark sinew]

how's this relevant 🤔
also even on ss above you didn't pick +atk

[deft badger]

then write down which specific buffs u mean, u did mention buff her
are there more doro buffs inc?

i don't know i have been talking about that thing

[spark sinew]

dude

[limpid siren]

Droty

[deft badger]

i still don't get which part bugs u xD

[spark sinew]

go pick attack tags and outheal it with blem

that'll show me

[deft badger]

mine did have 250% atk when i did the run

stupid blemi was healing her atks without problems

yeah but he marked only the 60% atk tag

if he doesn't add any other tags, his will have 110% atk

[spark sinew]

the previous tags are implied...

i should probably just stop, because i'm probably being trolled

[fringe jackal]

I actually have zero global attack tags on just the 50 point doro one. It's the only reason why mont3r/mudrock survives. I should really build a healable defender

[grave onyx]

Thanks guys

[deft badger]

my point was 250% she heals it fine, if u add more probably depends how much more
i don't even know what he is planning to add when it comes to atk

[deft badger]

and with that team u can run the same i did 600

without any stall strat

[grave onyx]

K

[fallen terrace]

Whats some easy tags ?

[cyan gorge]

depends on your strat

[fallen terrace]

I like to use Casternights

[tidal sedge]

Hey could someone help me please, I'm at TR-12 but I still can't go through this level

[cyan gorge]

then def buffs are free

[cyan gorge]

That caster does splash damage correct?

[fallen terrace]

But there is too few free range tile to use

[tidal sedge]

Yeah I think

[tidal sedge]

Yup

[cyan gorge]

Splash means ops next to the target get hit

so try moving Jessica and Hibiscus further away

[tidal sedge]

Are you sure? I'll try, thanks anticipated

[light roost]

What is caerula memory for?

[tidal sedge]

OMG IT WORKED, THAN YOU

I'm learning about strategy so well

Thx

[boreal magnet]

using Qiubai is faster than i thought, on my way to 50%

[tidal sedge]

Dang it

[lost summit]

How do I clear this Pinch out Quarantine op on 300 rating

It feels impossible

[vernal lion]

what is your squad

[lost summit]

Sorry mid game, but running this Rn, trying something new

It did not work

Chen apparently does no damage

gg

[vernal lion]

why tho

just leak 2 rocket robots

ez

[fringe jackal]

just leak the gundams

[spark sinew]

what is mudrock doing

[lost summit]

Is that really what I gotta do

[fringe jackal]

yes

[spark sinew]

you can get free risk with 5 deploy

[lost summit]

Tryna tank the rockets so chen can get more damage off

[fringe jackal]

unless you want to stall for 6 hours

[spark sinew]

with this team

[lost summit]

this is the first run I try this

lol

[spark sinew]

rockets target 4

[vernal lion]

pick most of gundam risk, except +atk and +aspd if it's too hard for you

[spark sinew]

you're just wasting mudrock

[lost summit]

Should I pick something to nuke dorothy then?

[vernal lion]

you don't need to nuke dorothy, just ignore and leak her too

[lost summit]

Then i'll lose

I only have 3 lives

[vernal lion]

remember to not pick dorothy -2 hp seal

and 1 hp seal

[spark sinew]

don't pick the risk

and read her description

(they also show it when she appears, don't they)

[lost summit]

ah I see

[vernal lion]

I believe you can do it, without much effort tho

[lost summit]

My Mlynar is not M3 unfort

[vernal lion]

just wait to unlock more risks

it will be better for you to choose

[spark sinew]

pick the class "bans" as well - the increase dp of certain classes

skalter is still worth using in that team but otherwise it's just free risk

[lost summit]

Shes cheap

so

[vernal lion]

pick x2,5 cost for supporter

you only use 2 ranged op anyway, so maximum cost is like 40 dp

not too bad if you bring more vg

[vernal lion]

this is x2,5 cost for sniper/caster/supporter with -75% dp regen

still I only need 1 vg tho

[lost summit]

You think that Mudrock better than Croissant there?

[spark sinew]

no

ideally you put Nearl though

[lost summit]

Radiant?

[vernal lion]

normal Nearl lol

[lost summit]

Oh she's level 1

lmao

Actually I saw that Hoshiguma was really good

but mine is

also level 1

[spark sinew]

croissant is fine
that spot doesn't really do anything

it just blocks 3

and gets shot by dorothy like twice

[vernal lion]

you just need your op won't die to any enemies

so mostly you want to survive Dorothy risk and gundam risk

[spark sinew]

nearl is great because she would help your mlynar to not die horribly
other defenders picks just...exist i suppose

[lost summit]

Yeah saria is good there too cuz of that

[vernal lion]

Saria is good because of her sp talent too

but you will mind about Mlynar talent as well

[spark sinew]

saria is good but i assume she's always present

was talking about that spot

it usually just serves as meatshield and does nothing to help Uncle survive stuff

[boreal magnet]

my way approaching this bullshit event is if u take hp tag dont take atk tags and vice versa

[lost summit]

Not having M3 Mlynar totally screws this

[deft badger]

where did u place them?
was mlynar in range of saria and nearl?

[vernal lion]

same as most of Mlynar guide tho

Saria + medic to heal him

I only need Nearl talent because I pick atk down

[deft badger]

was having lumen and saria on mlynar my was dying like s- lol

[vernal lion]

so it will help to increase the healing

[deft badger]

is urs lvl90

[vernal lion]

I don't use Lumen, I use Shining

tbh I pick most of atk risk, so Dorothy hit like 3000 atk

Mlynar will lose more than 50% hp, so it's good for Saria

my issue is I don't have Shining modX

which increases the sp rate for s3

so I can backup in time for 2nd time of activation

[deft badger]

my mlynar loses over 50

yeah urs was surviving because of lvl

[vernal lion]

who level tho

[deft badger]

i spend that day 3 hours trying with ur saria it just didn't work out

[vernal lion]

Mlynar is max level, but Shining is level 63

and no mastery on skill

only modY lv 3

[deft badger]

that first part wasn't a problem with lumen blemi

but when the rockets start hitting + doro

its getting just to much

was hoping saria can help there so i did try saria blemi lumen but nope

[vernal lion]

ofc it's always too much

you pick atk up + atk down

that's enough for the pain

[deft badger]

in the end cheat death did work lol

https://youtu.be/zfXNiNCocHg?t=173

did it like Minus lol

[lost summit]

Pain

[boreal magnet]

bruh, its 1 hour already

[polar crane]

did you finish watching the shrek movie?

[bitter halo]

as long as i get the medal 😭

@fringe jackal thanks for video

[boreal magnet]

i gave up last night, now im watching cringe tiktok compilation

one more robot remain

nearly 2 hour

[polar crane]

[boreal magnet]

yeah f'em robots

[little orchid]

just bring some arts and res debuff to kill those
ifrit, eyja, haze, gg, gnosis etc

surtr too

[spark sinew]

surtr is not afk
honestly besides ifrit and maybe ceobe to pair there's not much you can do

not to mention this is 7op risk

[little orchid]

non-afk skills suck, but half an hour of manual play is enough to kill them

i was actually mor worried that the game may decide to die on me if i left the map running for hours

[boreal magnet]

hey atleast i got to watch great Shrek movies

[polar crane]

it was a good time yeah?

[bitter halo]

its faster than i expected

and i missed like a 50 mylnar skill activation too

[turbid badge]

thats still like 1 hour and 18 minutes and ermm 2 seconds

[bitter halo]

no, i would say max 40 mins

progress now

i cheated by activating mylnar everytime

[glass monolith]

I hyper cheated by using Silence alter to make Mlynar tank 440% ATK Dorothy and then leaked 2 range robots

[lethal dragon]

I super hyper cheated by retreating my operators when Dorothy came close to blue box 😎

[full thunder]

I don't cheating but use all hp res and def risk and just make enemy have 0 attack.

So i can stall them really long and Dorothy can't kill my operators

[bitter halo]

i didnt mean it like that u guys

[sly drift]

What risks

Im losing my mind rn

This stage meant to sustain and not even AH + heal can sustain. Im completely lost

[versed arrow]

use proper defender if you want to block

[sly drift]

Yea but nothing else can sustain and deal damage other than AH

Idk

[versed arrow]

to which mob?

[sly drift]

In overall

[versed arrow]

tanking the mobs are not a prob, saria and hoshi can tank gundam just fine on high end, for other mobs even the lower rarity ones works. Its is just about what you use to kill them

[sly drift]

Idk. I barely choose enemy atk+ risk but spectre and gladia still dies to that Dorothy wave

[glass monolith]

Well you pick Dorothy 50? and then this ATK up 30 so your rat is like 1500 damage-ish now

She is here to shoot you into face

[celest bluff]

Uhmmm

Did that flower supposed to do that

Not moving

[gleaming lodge]

yes this one is bugged

it was also bugged on CN iirc

just HG stuff

[celest bluff]

Wait

It is a common occurrence?

[gleaming lodge]

yes

it should happen every time

use it to your advantage

[deft badger]

that one never moves

[glass monolith]

i assume they screw up and set him 2 "wait" waypoints on same spot, so waking him skips it to second "wait"

[deft badger]

i hate this map

[spark sinew]

no mlynar/teq and no healer

still leakless

that's a huge win

[wide sail]

fodder medic slander

[deft badger]

we are fine we are fine

[limpid siren]

💪

[deft badger]

heavy brain dmg, spend 9 hours playing IS and watching god of war ragnarok story

[limpid siren]

Is it good?

[deft badger]

yes that's movie material

[limpid siren]

I love how pool of procreation slowly becomes one of the easier late floor stages as you climb to d15

[limpid siren]

Neat

[deft badger]

would have stoped at like 1 or 2 hours mark if i have been bored watching lol

[spark sinew]

pool is pretty unforgiving on high diff from my experience
although i didn't play it after expansion, people say it's easier because MoM buff

[limpid siren]

It’s straightforward to draft for

Whereas something like Piper’s Call goes sicko mode at d15

[spark sinew]

piper's is just pozy/chalter though 🤔

[limpid siren]

Woe is me for my e0 6* snipers

[spark sinew]

it's mostly that pool needs you to have a very specific answers or you get overwhelmed

[limpid siren]

It’s just erato + a normal human being draft

[spark sinew]

literally forced into teq/mlynar+medic
i heard lin can help a lot if you go fully ranged but i don't have her so no experience

how do you tank stonecutters chipping your ranged row

[limpid siren]

With the rest of my normal human being draft

[spark sinew]

does it include mlynar and a healer always then?

[weak gazelle]

sigh....
i hate 1p relay 5* only

[spark sinew]

idk piper is also just a meta pozy/chalter pick, with texalter (the scandalous pick, ikr)

[weak gazelle]

only able to reach this
(didnt want to aim higher)

[limpid siren]

Something like this ig

[limpid siren]

Might try that daily tomorrow

[weak gazelle]

a note
pluma and gamiya are not needed

[spark sinew]

are we talking d15?

[limpid siren]

Yes

[spark sinew]

gdi people changing their nicknames

[limpid siren]

[deft badger]

do max its fun...

[spark sinew]

yeah, suffer on piper

such is the woe of 5*

sora is interesting pick though

[turbid badge]

elemental dmg op i saw valaqrin elemental dsmage proq shred 2 of them all the way to half health

[limpid siren]

Probably changed a lot since mom buff dropped

[spark sinew]

surely it's not for sleep, with such a small range
but neither do you draft something to benefit from atk buff?

[limpid siren]

Sora was for kroos exodia

That list is probably invalid now

[spark sinew]

i knew something was super off when i saw red as a consideration
remind me, do you pick lower rarity?

or only 5*

[limpid siren]

Just 5*

Feels like cheating to only pick lower rarity when it suits me

[spark sinew]

hope management is a huge part of IS, but i can def see how that would make it easier

[glass monolith]

Max on CC1 - Deploy Typhon
Max on POO - Uga bunga

[fallen terrace]

Who is good on solo beach?

[vernal lion]

Typhon

[fallen terrace]

I only have Ceobe atm

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWpM_4THfrE&ab_channel=Sciel

[fallen terrace]

How can her back not hurt

Those and that weapon looks.heavy

[vernal lion]

can't get hurt if enemies all died

[tepid sigil]

Dokutah really treated her properly

[fallen terrace]

Her spine must be adamantium

[tepid sigil]

Or maybe she secretly have something like mont3r holding her back

[fallen terrace]

That seems feasible

[turbid badge]

she got that sarkaz in her