strategy

[full finch]

I'm leaving

bye

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

[latent anvil]

who here is prio to g next anywy

nothing look usefl to me

[turbid badge]

wgz do u even use them

[pallid veldt]

Ceobe

Bc she is cool

[latent anvil]

kay for da1 pinchot

[turbid badge]

there on skill one i cant

[latent anvil]

ofc i dont use them thhyer not usable

[turbid badge]

[pallid veldt]

Also i heard non rosm mod3 havers are cringe

I forgot from who but

[latent anvil]

is there way to fix this

[turbid badge]

lee or vigil next

[surreal star]

i use vigil a lot more ngl

[tropic valve]

probably Lee

he can hold an infinite wave of hounds

[turbid badge]

im thinking of raisigg my penuts and pozy soon (finall5y)

[tidal sedge]

For me its less of a how useful are either, and more a. I will literally never use vigil

[turbid badge]

i guess irenes gonna be left in the dust for a while

dont think im ever gonna need to raise lumen

[latent anvil]

ya i just di pzy now doing peanc

eyaja hvit alt coming

[turbid badge]

only raising swire

from there

[tidal sedge]

I never know how to treat swindler

[zealous geyser]

is it actually a good idea to use the stainless infinite stalling trick for sn?

[turbid badge]

u want to sure

the stun ones probably better

Stun/freeze

[zealous geyser]

cuz like i want to stall those invis guys

[turbid badge]

uhh

[zealous geyser]

wait

[turbid badge]

i mean it works

[zealous geyser]

can the turret

block the boss

and infinite stall

too

[turbid badge]

hmm i wonder how much block does it need to block boss

[zealous geyser]

dunno

i never actually tried to block it

[turbid badge]

3

[zealous geyser]

shoot

u can only deploy 2 of the stainless turrets tho right

[turbid badge]

phase 2*’

[turbid badge]

ye

also its not a turret

[zealous geyser]

what other deployables are unkillable

[turbid badge]

u have to use the s1/s2

machines

[zealous geyser]

idk what theyre called

so i call it a turret

wait

doesnt this mean

specter doll

can block?

or is it just like she normally has 3 block

[vernal lion]

currently,
only summon of tactician op (when in revived mode) and artificer op won't take dmg from enemy,
and dollkeeper only get +block for main body, not the doll

[merry narwhal]

iirc the vore enemies from the later chapters that eat your ops as well as the SN boss can permanently destroy a tactician's pet

[vernal lion]

yes, but they can revive, not like op

[dusky grove]

Ye

They will revive

And the vore still gets slowed

[vernal lion]

that's 3 buffs

dodge, def, res

CM will need Aak buff

[bleak hill]

What just happened

[gray stone]

Horn Overcharged S2 mega buffed gaming

[timid schooner]

this is a joke right

how tf this is easier than ex-8 lmao

[fringe jackal]

these sn-s4 stages technically aren't hard but the feeling of all the shit running at you is terrifying

there's a big psychological factor

[jovial nest]

EX-8 is easier by a mile for me

cause defending a doulane and just killing with FRDs or redeps on the top left or top right is more manageable

especially since a duolane makes it easier for gnosis to keep blasting Endspeaker

S-5 makes it harder for Gnosis' impact to be relevant until Endspeaker hits the leftmost area

and the thing about S-5 is

its a trilane with too many isolated ground tiles on its top and bot

[small oar]

should have paused the game more bad run

[jovial nest]

making most ranged ops really shit on top and bot tiles

[tidal sedge]

Its a tower def game, what use is there for ranged towers

[small oar]

range tower is used to bully the enemy in safety

[jovial nest]

dude unless they have marksmen range or Rosa range, they barely help

unless you're GG

[small oar]

i just use silence of something

[small oar]

cant kill me if i have 2 medics and a off medic

[jovial nest]

this is the difference for me. EX-8 is far easier even with 5-different-flavors-of-buffs mission

[small oar]

big damage big otter boyes

[jovial nest]

and ngl

in EX-8 clear there

GG barely helped

she might as well have been not deployed

[vernal lion]

time to cope

[jovial nest]

i am stockpiling hard

cause i know i will E2 90 mod3 Typhon

[turbid badge]

wtf

i just want sanatalla

[jovial nest]

e2 90 mod3 Eyjaberry

[turbid badge]

[jovial nest]

and e2 90 Hoed

[turbid badge]

mod3??

[tidal sedge]

Lol

[turbid badge]

whos gonna tell jusan

[tidal sedge]

I dont have eyjalter mod, where u get it

[jovial nest]

planning ahead so hard

[spark sinew]

e2 90 hoe

holy cope

[vernal lion]

ok back to suffer

clear no upgrade yet

[jovial nest]

why do you not have any of that

[vernal lion]

because I'm still doing challenge

[jovial nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1180350252247699526/image.png?ex=657d19d5&is=656aa4d5&hm=a324f29101f2e6943770866129457539f44ed49ebf2207918fe1478ace20282e&

[turbid badge]

naga this ur main?

[jovial nest]

either way

finally have fins

thank god

[vernal lion]

no upgrade until d15

[tidal sedge]

Fin? Wadat

[jovial nest]

dice team can now remain irrelevant for time immemorial for me

[vernal lion]

fuck ooc

[jovial nest]

I've unlocked diff15

but haven't bothered clearing diff15

[pallid veldt]

Dalao…

[tidal sedge]

What is fin

[pallid veldt]

Pathfinder fins

[jovial nest]

30 light but it's a bitch to get

[pallid veldt]

Rare asf relic

[jovial nest]

its purely for completion

of relic collections

[pallid veldt]

Yeah

I cba to go relic hunting

Some are brutal

[tidal sedge]

Itll be nice if you get it for ed4 ig

[jovial nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648597785444220941/1180350353657581618/image.png?ex=657d19ee&is=656aa4ee&hm=9aaaef2202824319edf9db1f41277473f737502add5ee78d8258b9591b93a699&

feels good

[pallid veldt]

Its stupid rare

You need to roll an 8 or smth right

7/8

[jovial nest]

7 or 8

[tidal sedge]

[jovial nest]

i nonstop just rush floor 1

reroll with dice squad

[pallid veldt]

Yeah

[jovial nest]

and then do it all over again

[tidal sedge]

I might unironically use dice squad to fight mizuki next time

For infinite mspd reduct

[jovial nest]

since i plan to do some diff15 clears once i get all relics

it has to be MoM for me

[vernal lion]

you can put all 3 buffs in a same tile

[fringe jackal]

today I found out you can permanently freeze the boss using gnosis
huh, huhhh!!!???

[tropic valve]

soon

right

?

[vernal lion]

Gnosis ft. Chen, presents to you

[jovial nest]

lemme get as much IS3 ending 4 and new map knowledge first

get as many of the new relics

then i finally do diff15 clears

once i unlocked and got everything

[vernal lion]

I, ugh, just need the Fan

[spark sinew]

new relics are a bit op

you have 3 days to do it until new relics are added, i believe in you

[tidal sedge]

PANIC

[jovial nest]

iirc that's the version of the map where you are able to keep it completely dry?

or was it the other one?

[eager gate]

W-why are rocks so expensive

[limpid siren]

why are you so poor

[eager gate]

I skipped half of the missions and don't plan to do em

More like third actually, the entire S block

[spark sinew]

they don't give currency

[tidal sedge]

You should still clear shop with remaining sanity

[spark sinew]

well they do 1:1 sanity:currency eq at best

[eager gate]

There's 10 more days. I have more than enough time to clear shop

[tidal sedge]

Rerun ends the 8th so not quite 10 days

[eager gate]

But the shop says 12th

[spark sinew]

shop lingers, like lone trail

stages end sooner

[eager gate]

[valid kraken]

Should i keep farming this till max cap?

I barely was able to beat it after spending 3 hour's repeating attempting it

[jovial nest]

Just keep autoing your best attempt until cap

It will refresh once monday reset hits

Orundum > event mats

[valid kraken]

Btw thanks for telling me the unli try, it saved me alot of sanity

[jovial nest]

I meant use sweep btw

Use auto sweep

Total proxy

[valid kraken]

Auto sweep?

Oh

Ok

[jovial nest]

Anni is the only AK content that can be repeated without autoing

It used to be pure auto until people just kept nagging HG how long it takes for it to finish

And how frequent it will desync because of how long it takes

[valid kraken]

I understand them since it took me a while to just get to the part where i failed

[jovial nest]

Yeah just attempting it manually is already a pain

But this is what the oldest "game mode" in AK is back then

Barely any changes compared to what we have now

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZWwOTtLCQs&ab_channel=Krys

[jovial nest]

Carne over Lin huh. Damage priorities?

[vernal lion]

Lin only doing tanking and detecting mission

[jovial nest]

To title as Carne's redemption...and as a casterknight

Feels so baity

Wait how did they inspect the boss?

If its only casters?

Just spawncamp them?

[tidal sedge]

Wdym

[jovial nest]

Or use Mostima stall?

[spark sinew]

casters can block

[jovial nest]

Dusk?

[glass monolith]

I think Lin will break after first or second elemental damage

[spark sinew]

oh it definitely is intended
i mean at the same time people dogpile on carne too much, so the bait will certainly work

"worst 6*"

[celest bluff]

God damn

[deft badger]

hahahaha

do i even try

[glass monolith]

Well it IS d0

Other 2 vouchers were medics, isn't it

[deft badger]

w8 why does she have 2 block

[somber stone]

Guard +1 block relic?

[deft badger]

didn't even look at the relic

[jovial nest]

This reminds me so much of all the Eben copers back even in Ch11 or even that Siracusano boss video

[spark sinew]

oh come on now

[jovial nest]

[spark sinew]

don't salt my wounds

it's true that she's somewhat in a limbo though

there's very little reason to use her, if you have other ops

especially with how good Lin is

i do hope second mod will get her something cool but we'll see

[celest bluff]

IS3 ending 2+ no placement restriction artifact= Rat

Rat tank

[jovial nest]

Its been tried before

Phalanxes dont feel good as ground tanks

[spark sinew]

what would you tank on is3 ending 2

even fully buffed nian will eat shit

[jovial nest]

It's IS3 ed2

TLK is far worse imo

[spark sinew]

rat will also get her defense reduces by broods

is3 ed is TLK...

[celest bluff]

IS3 , the knight
Rat doesn't attack = not getting froze

[crisp bolt]

lin feels really good in certain scenarios

[jovial nest]

You said IS2

[spark sinew]

fatfingered

[crisp bolt]

specifically anywhere with a shit ton of low damage stuff

[spark sinew]

still doesn't tank

[jovial nest]

TLK hits hard still

[spark sinew]

if it's low difficulty, just use cuora or bubble

[celest bluff]

Nope, she lived

[spark sinew]

they're cheaper, not relic dependent

[glass monolith]

Apply damage reduction and medics

[jovial nest]

It is most likely low diff. No way is Phalanx on ground a good tank for high TLK

[glass monolith]

But still rolling single event which has 2 outcomes with only 1 working for that shit is copium

[jovial nest]

Especially when black shoes is more common....based on my experience

White shoes is just so much more valuable. Allowing any map to be assault

[celest bluff]

I keep telling myself that I would do annihilation that I can't clear year ago

[jovial nest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648597785444220941/1013410073386692628/871662531771498556.gif

[vernal lion]

someone actually used Jhin theme for Arturia

truly Virtuoso moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgGCmIR_KzQ&ab_channel=ringojuice

[jovial nest]

I'm gonna wait for a while to research why Arturia is good. But I'm interested

[crisp bolt]

windflit

[spark sinew]

white shoes can also be worthless if you somehow don't have brood tank
although both of them feel worthless sometimes, so i agree thatwhites are probably better

[spark sinew]

enemies don't mitigate elemental damage

das it

[celest bluff]

Huh

[glass monolith]

Windflit to buff stainless to give Skalter dual machine gun upgrade

[vernal lion]

white shoes is more like for those ranged op with aoe dmg

especially is phalanx

phalanx is like chainsaw/flame tower from Baloon6

they pretty depend on specific map to work on highest efficiency

[celest bluff]

When the tower defense have tower

[crystal cargo]

ehh tack shooter doesnt have to charge

[crisp bolt]

I like using phalanx in is when I get the phalanx relic

[crystal cargo]

so not really

[vernal lion]

yea, I mean it's similar to that

[crystal cargo]

phalanx seems like the caster version of liberators but worse

the range

[vernal lion]

not like I haven't played Bloons6

[crystal cargo]

yeah

[vernal lion]

why cope for phalanx when you can cope for super monkey

[crystal cargo]

[crisp bolt]

why cope for either when you can just permastall

[crystal cargo]

center tile is better used if you have skadi alter anyways

[vernal lion]

truly GG moment

you can make GG carry strat too, but it's too complicated

[tropic valve]

I don't think low ground Lin tanks TLK at high D

even unfrozen

yeah over 5k ATK

about 3k ATK at D7

[real jacinth]

I feel really disappointed in melanite

She's got a cool gun

She's got a cool jacket

And she's got a cool tat or whatever in her forehead

And her e2 fires some basic aah projectile

Tiny range high attack interval

And the e2 takes an eternity to load

[limpid siren]

melanite is pretty bad yea

[real jacinth]

It's so sad

[limpid siren]

her concept is solid, but she's held down by too many minor issues

[real jacinth]

Her design is freaking amazing

It's like glacaus

I was like wow

That's a big ass gun

And then I never use her

She was the first operator I wanted the most bruh

Before I actually started playing

[limpid siren]

glaucus is interesting, because i think her kit is in a good place

there's just not really much content that needs what she offers

[lethal dragon]

What did you do to blemi

[deft badger]

what would be the best op to clap that stupid squid in IS3?

getting so hard at d10+ to do just with thorns

[tropic valve]

stupid squid meaning?

Paranoia Illusion?

[spark sinew]

thorns is horrible vs it

[deft badger]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-stare-gif-5889528

[spark sinew]

he can't outrange the aspd aura

usual suspect is Horn
usually supplemented by typewriter/black

[eager gate]

500% scale the basic projectile
She's not super strong but not basic at all

[vernal lion]

just cope

smh

I will make her do funny thing

[vernal lion]

Horn, GG, Ifrit...

[spark sinew]

ifrit

since he also pushes difficulty, wouldn't rec GG

there are very good 5* options (Mr Nothing) but i know they don't have 5* raised

[tidal sedge]

I kill highmorb with ifrit b4

cuz no stun

[vernal lion]

nah you won't recommend that because it's the truth

[spark sinew]

🤔

[vernal lion]

they don't invest those who are niche

[spark sinew]

yeah ik they don't

[tropic valve]

outside of Horn, Schwarz, Typewriter who have already been mentioned, other ops who outrange the ASPD aura include Fiammetta, Archetto, any Besieger, Stainless + Angelina or Exu if you wanna be fancy

[vernal lion]

iirc Typewrite now got effected by slow aspd tho

[tropic valve]

correct, so you need to put the Typewriter outside

and hit at the last tile of range

[spark sinew]

yeah it's like "budget" schwarz during pozy s3

[vernal lion]

can't wait to see if you can use Hoederer to stall lol

[deft badger]

meh i don't care anyway i am about to stop playing IS at all

yeah i lose like 1 in 20 runs

[tropic valve]

sadge

[vernal lion]

d15, 1388 per hit, so almost 5k dmg with corrosion dmg

[deft badger]

but still its rigged af, they are spamming u with medic defender support vouchers

[tropic valve]

wait if you're winning 95% of your runs then you're finding it too easy

[deft badger]

definition of making it "harder"

[spark sinew]

first 3 defender vouchers are great

[deft badger]

i have big time problems dealing with that

[tropic valve]

also I think one of the most fun things about IS is how you improvise with that you're given

like game gives you only Medic and Defender

[vernal lion]

we need aoe defender

[deft badger]

when like 80% of my team is build by guards

[vernal lion]

[tropic valve]

so you go Reedic and Horn for damage

[deft badger]

i don't have them

[spark sinew]

we have czerny 🏃‍♂️

[tropic valve]

or only Supporter so you go Suzuran and Gnosis

ah

regardless, it may be a signal to not have a team that's 80% guards

and aim for balance

[vernal lion]

I hate to say but IS3 is ass, because of roster check

[tropic valve]

||disregard my team that's 80% snipers||

[deft badger]

seeing a lot of those as well

guard caster specialist are rare like really rare

[spark sinew]

i wish casters were rare

[tropic valve]

same

[vernal lion]

I can play ranged only IF game stop giving other than Sniper/Caster/Medic voucher

[spark sinew]

i bloody wish

[limpid siren]

specast teams are the real gangsters

[deft badger]

look at this s-...

xD

[spark sinew]

lumen thorns eyja

[vernal lion]

I mean, planning is your best friend

[tropic valve]

well, if you want to know how to put Sniper vouchers to use, you're already subbed to my channel

[vernal lion]

I would not pick Texas if it's nearly late

[tropic valve]

I think Texas late isn't TOO bad

Thorns late though

[vernal lion]

imagine having exchange voucher by ingot

[tropic valve]

E1 Texas at least kills stonecutters

[spark sinew]

e1 texas also baits them yeah

or scratches demolitioners when they stand around on like, nest/hunting

[vernal lion]

I use Mayer regularly

tbh I don't want to pick Ling but goddamn it game

Scene, Mayer and Deepcolor don't have atk up from skill

and Mag needs to be E2 to be useful

[limpid siren]

scene does have atk up

unless you mean for herself

[vernal lion]

I thought it's for bot only tho

description is bad af

[limpid siren]

yea it is bot only

[deft badger]

i am so dead lol

[limpid siren]

scene dps is kinda whatever

[tropic valve]

where is your Marksman

like Krooster

[deft badger]

https://krooster.com/u/TheUnknownMs

which one i have only exu lvld😂 😂

[tropic valve]

[high crest]

No texalter for that stage?

[tropic valve]

please level Krooster

[spark sinew]

you have 19 e2 only?

[fringe jackal]

degen's skills are out

[spark sinew]

where

[vernal lion]

check weibo

[limpid siren]

ping clevershadow

[spark sinew]

me no speak chinese

[fringe jackal]

reddit, 4chan, nga....

https://nga.178.com/read.php?tid=38571917

damn haven't used my weibo account in so long
https://weibo.com/6279793937/NvhhkmBrq#comment

[vernal lion]

1st talent:
When Degen causes damage, there is a certain chance that the attack power of the attack will be increased and the target will be shaken for several seconds

[limpid siren]

wake up babe, new status effect just dropped

[high crest]

I smell rng

[limpid siren]

i would have guessed at it being -atk for the enemy, but that's already coded as Enfeeble

[deft badger]

did u skip the part when i did say that i have 8 months ingame time like i total 😄

[vernal lion]

I don't think it's enfeeble, since we don't see the effect animation

[limpid siren]

yea Shaken has to be something else

[spark sinew]

8 months is...a lot

[deft badger]

btw all my e2s are six stars

[limpid siren]

i have strong doubts that it would be "stop attacking entirely"

[spark sinew]

but it's not something that 243 will tell you

[deft badger]

i didn't have ops anyway

i could have lvld

80% of the six stars i got in the past 4 months

[tropic valve]

you may find it useful to e2 some 4* and 5*

after all, the whole IS economy is based around you having little Hope early on and a lot of Hope later

of course, people DO manage to clear D15 with only 6*

[deft badger]

when i came back in may i did have thorns surtr lumen gladiia spalter saga weedy eyja mud

[tropic valve]

but it's not as consistent compared to having 4* and 5*

[deft badger]

rest came after that

[limpid siren]

[deft badger]

in IS, when it comes to events i am fine with just abusing six stars

[high crest]

6 star knights in is3 viable damn

[tropic valve]

6 star knights is a lot better than 5 star knights or 4 star knights

[limpid siren]

noting this down

[tropic valve]

but it's not as good as 456 star knights

[deft badger]

i am going crazy here....

lol

[limpid siren]

nah chief

i'm not paying this one

[vernal lion]

6* Degenbrencher (Swordmaster)

Talent:

• 1st talent:
  When Degen causes damage, there is a certain chance that the attack power of the attack will be increased and the target will be shaken for several seconds

• 2nd talent: (updating)

Skill:

• 1st skill: Pure force
  Degen's next attack will cause two physical damage to several nearby ground enemies.

• 2nd skill: Silent ridicule
  Degen launches 2 slashes at several ground enemies within the front range. When attacking blocked enemies, it will be slashed 3 times. The activation probability of the first talent is increased to 100%. Each slash will cause a certain amount of physical damage.
  (Rechargeable)

• 3rd skill: Return to tranquility
  Degen continues to launch several slashes. Each slash will cause a certain amount of physical damage to several enemies. The activation probability of the first talent is increased to 100%, and it will continue to drag the enemies to its center with a certain force, and then it will cause another attack. Physical damage and dragging enemies to your center with greater force

[deft badger]

ohhh

[stuck ermine]

shaken

[deft badger]

wow!!!!

roll again

[spark sinew]

i sure hope those... people didn't just make her s2 have better sp than bibeak

[deft badger]

wow

broo f- this mode

[high crest]

Goddamn

[spark sinew]

skill issue

[tropic valve]

have you considered rolling higher numbers

[stuck ermine]

imagine doing that on 12 sided die

[limpid siren]

been a while since bibeak was relevant anyway

[vernal lion]

Dr.Silvergun wants to present this

[high crest]

Is degen like offensive recovery?

[vernal lion]

swordmaster, yea

[deft badger]

i am at the end and i have two e2 ops lol

i cant bro hahahaha

[spark sinew]

still
but my expectations are low

[deft badger]

and one is kinder defect

[high crest]

Shit.....m

[limpid siren]

people see atk recovery and weep

it's funny

[high crest]

Well at least it's not def recovery I guess

[limpid siren]

def recovery also has its place

[deft badger]

the only reason i made it so far without losing all my hp is those 2 and Ines lol

[spark sinew]

her skills definitely seem suited for atk recovery

[limpid siren]

it does make sense why atk/def recovery is spooky for most players

[spark sinew]

i wouldn't want this shit to be auto
but obviously we need numbers first

they can still do funny and make them very shit

[limpid siren]

investing into a skill like croissant s2 that's only amazing in hyper specific situations is a scary prospect

[tropic valve]

pog we have shifting Guards

[vernal lion]

dude, you need to play till last, even if it's the worst thing happened to you
this is really what Darkest Dungeon gameplay belike tho
you fell yourself, you lose yourself

[tropic valve]

agreed, I have seen some really doomed runs turn around

[limpid siren]

highmore getting hit with metastatic won't matter past f3 tbh

[tropic valve]

I have also doomed some really blessed runs, but those were my own fault

[high crest]

I just like don't have a good experience with a attack and def recovery cause its like sometimes mess up my timings

[limpid siren]

it's only a problem if you need her to exist in the f3 boss fight

[limpid siren]

that's the thing though, they time themselves

[tropic valve]

exactly, just think of Highmore as a cheap FRD now

[deft badger]

ines is still able to carry all good we still didn't lose any hp 😄

but i am kinder worried lol, 2 combets left till stupid squid

[celest bluff]

Get the stun duration extend thing

[high crest]

Well got a very good relics then you get shit like emergency like the barrage of possessed shits in f5

[crystal cargo]

honestly theres a lot of f5 stages that are like that

do you mean emergency ooc

[high crest]

The enemy that has like spear throwers

In f5

[celest bluff]

You know, those possessed enraged soldiers from the lungmen arc

[crystal cargo]

the guys who lose hp over time?

thats OOC

[deft badger]

i just wanna know how am i still alive lol

[high crest]

Yep that one lmao hehe, men that stage gives me some PTSD when I first like got it

[spark sinew]

it's not d15

[static stream]

Same

[celest bluff]

Yeah I hate that stage

[crystal cargo]

emergency gave me extreme ptsd

[static stream]

That stage is an absolute pain to do

[crystal cargo]

they killed mlynar like twice

[celest bluff]

Still alive but that stage suck

[static stream]

Emergency is way worse

[crystal cargo]

i heard map is different for d15

[celest bluff]

I want to Reclamation algorithm now

[vernal lion]

d0 emergency ooc turns itself to d11 ooc

and d15 emergency ooc turns itself to mini boss stage

[deft badger]

its d8

but its over here now for sure

[crystal cargo]

if its emergency

....

[deft badger]

there is no chance i am going to make it with two e2s

[crystal cargo]

emergency ubi is harder than emergency ooc

hot take maybe

[deft badger]

normal

[crystal cargo]

oh

use texalter to kill mutant when standing still ig

without s3 she dies in like 1 hit

[vernal lion]

you have 2 options,
kill the rock fucker first,
or kill all the runnning screamming flowers first

[crystal cargo]

kill rock first

[spark sinew]

bonethrowers have too much hp so they move and kill everything
and you can't even bait them with defenders, because melee dudes also go around punching shit to death with 4/5k attack

[crystal cargo]

damn

[static stream]

Kill the spear guy with texas, use ines in front of thorns lmao

[celest bluff]

Or have a deal 3000 true damage relic

[high crest]

Nice

[celest bluff]

The spear fucker is from Originium Dust right

[crystal cargo]

nah the explosion one will end ur run

wait

nvm

[celest bluff]

Huh?

[crystal cargo]

you were talking about OOC right

[celest bluff]

No
Ubi

[crystal cargo]

???

[spark sinew]

d8 flowers have 36k hp

[crystal cargo]

deal 3000 is questionable

if you place one unit down

[spark sinew]

losing 4% of hp/second

[crystal cargo]

a group will swarm you

[high crest]

The red fucker that destroys the rocks in top in ubi?

[vernal lion]

that shit is rare tho

and imagine having both

[celest bluff]

Yeah I only seen it once

BOTH?

[crystal cargo]

against emergency ubi it would prob aggro every flower

[vernal lion]

sui wrath is other one

[celest bluff]

Shit

[vernal lion]

wait wrong one

it's 3000 arts dmg my bad lol

[deft badger]

ines did kill them all lol

[vernal lion]

s2 is invis so yea she can't be effected by the screaming

[deft badger]

and i died to squid lol

but ines did punch him in to p2

then she died

that was the worst run i did ever have

btw whats the best to run?

i use most of the time this thing

[vernal lion]

it's good when you rush for early combats, because later is pretty ass

[spark sinew]

current people's are the strongest

and consistent

class squads are a bit inconsistent but strong

[fast basin]

thorns in is3 🤮

[static stream]

Use the thing with +20 originum ingot and +2 hope if u can use it

[deft badger]

i took the people thing

don't even know why i started using other stuff since i was always playing with people and it was working really really well

[jovial nest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648597785444220941/1180448927162572820/img_v2_29059575-0a1a-4874-add4-61ad53f6e1dg.gif?ex=657d75bb&is=656b00bb&hm=bcd75b38a1cf190c997ff30a63d42358ab1e718b5c78aa53d58bacafeb827372&

[deft badger]

the hell.. 😄

[jovial nest]

thats real

the AI of those enemy types and how Ho'ol's skill works lead up to that

this is a real strat heh

IS4 have some runny bois

[vernal lion]

imagine HG creating AI enemy

[jovial nest]

the problem of enemies that only move during their attack cooldowns haha

increase their aspd and boom

they're gonna cheese you hard unless you outrange them

[merry narwhal]

it's funny that Manticore can tank Mafrend p1

[jovial nest]

how does Lin handle Manny?

[vernal lion]

you don't need aspd, RA already has that kind of mechanism

they detect you and fight you until one is dead

and ranged enemy is smart enough

[jovial nest]

i mean there are specific enemy types indeed that work differently

like Enraged throwers

those guys won't move until their target is dead

[vernal lion]

kinda like that

their aspd is 2 sec

[jovial nest]

and now protectors aren't even the best solutions against these guys

cause Lin now exists

[vernal lion]

so basically any ranged enemy with 2 sec attack is perma stand still

[jovial nest]

although i still love using Hoshi E2 against them

[vernal lion]

but

these dudes are 1,5 sec

and still can move

a bit

[jovial nest]

does that have anything to do with their atk interval?

[lethal dragon]

Yes

[lean obsidian]

Is it possible to change some modules in rogue like?

[somber falcon]

Yes

[lean obsidian]

How

[somber falcon]

Just change it like how'd you do it normally in squad menu

[jovial nest]

there's a shortcut to that

that most people forget exist

lemme just open my emu

[smoky laurel]

LF 100% success strategy on sn 10 with this specific squad since i don't have any good operators to swap

[polar crane]

big question is why you have both skadi mod

[glass monolith]

You have Gnosis. Losing at this point is skill issue

[deft badger]

+kal

[smoky laurel]

the boss flies at 4th phase no? also, that is why i'm asking for help

[fast basin]

No, thats just his animation

You can still hit it with ground units

[glass monolith]

In phase 4 boss need 4 block to be blocked. You don't need to block IF IT FUCKING DEAD

[deft badger]

or frozen in place lol

i would just say try harder with kal+gnosis that's easy

+texas

[shrewd hinge]

Myrtle and ely not at m3 kinda a war crime ngl lmao

[smoky laurel]

i managed to do it on practice without kal tsit, she's useless lmao

[deft badger]

why was i thinking that elysium is a 6 star 😄

[deft badger]

she is not... she can hit the dodge birds, u cant dodge true dmg

and she melts the boss nvm how many buffs he did eat

[smoky laurel]

mons3tr dies too easily

i would need like skadi alt to keep it somewhat up

[vernal lion]

I think that is boss p4

[smoky laurel]

even then, it would still die

[vernal lion]

boss p4 can heal when attack your op

[deft badger]

i think u are doing somthing wrong

xD

[vernal lion]

and if you feed the atk up, you're done

[deft badger]

and i know what u are doing wrong, show me little handy buffs u are using

[vernal lion]

anyway, trio Ling Lappland Surtr time

bounce roomba is good

[tidal sedge]

It's very nice when purification hand is useless

[deft badger]

just don't care about it

[vernal lion]

that reduces the dmg taken from brand to 24 dmg/sec

[smoky laurel]

my brain explodes whenever i hear "little handy"

[deft badger]

only problem u might run in are birds that are going to dodge and u cant block them

[smoky laurel]

cause i have no idea whatsoever what that is

[smoky laurel]

if you mean the robot, then i have it to remove the goo

[vernal lion]

go full blue

[eager gate]

With enough copium you can probably do it without Laplap

[vernal lion]

I hate RNG in my heart, so no

and I'm totally sure about that my Surtr didn't do like that gif

I let the roomba kill the dodge mob

[deft badger]

full blue was cool, did clear like half of the ex stages with aak and krooster + gnosis ofc
and all S stages

its just place them where they are going to pass and don't care

ah yeah press that s1 aak sometimes

[deft badger]

u did take gnosis without this... 🙂

[smoky laurel]

did that without it

[jovial nest]

mine is mixed

i like red red blue blue blue for srs mode

[smoky laurel]

although i must say, it would be useful if i knew it existed

[deft badger]

yeah but u need that thing and he ccs them on AA u don't need the skill for it

[jovial nest]

i mean did you not bother swapping one or the other

to learn the effects

[smoky laurel]

there was so much text i forgot whatever it did

i got this fucking bored

[shrewd hinge]

If my team only has omertosa and may for stuns and only mumu ranged clone as blockers, which do I take?

[jovial nest]

reading issue

one ti[

are you reliant on Tacticians with dead summons blocking for you?

if not....

[smoky laurel]

if i'd be reading all that, the event would pass by before my very own eyes

[jovial nest]

get the other one

you don't need +1 block

[deft badger]

just go full blue, i did pick that what i have just for fun to see if it is going to work

did most of them without problems

krooster rocks btw

😄

[shrewd hinge]

Yea no not rly
Not with mumu but having a 2 block ines/ mumu clone opener is nice

[jovial nest]

people just overvalue +1 block

[shrewd hinge]

Or like when mobs come in and I press mumu s3

[jovial nest]

you've been clearing content without it

and there's no -1 block CMs

[shrewd hinge]

The stuns idk how much I'll get out of tho

Omertosa doesn't need it

And may I don't use too much

[jovial nest]

the point is

[shrewd hinge]

May could be good

[jovial nest]

you might want a longer CC duration

just to get predators be more open to getting killed

[shrewd hinge]

I see

[deft badger]

now i wanna go and try mumu, she has a cc xD

[shrewd hinge]

She bind

Which doesn't work

Oh

[jovial nest]

Mumu's Melee S3 stuns

[shrewd hinge]

S3 melee form

I see

[deft badger]

it does but is missing a lot

[jovial nest]

but the thing is

[deft badger]

if u mean the birds

[smoky laurel]

YOO

[jovial nest]

Mumu needs the clone to be blocking

[smoky laurel]

FUN UNLOCKED

[jovial nest]

it works like Eun's S2

she permastuns anyone the S3 melee blocks

during the duration

[glass monolith]

Can't relate. Floor is lava go

[deft badger]

works u just have to hit them first to bind them lol

[shrewd hinge]

Bind doesn't disable dodge tho right

And my floor is still lava so I'm not using actual melee blockers at all lol

[limpid siren]

It does iirc, specifically for SN enemies

[shrewd hinge]

Oh shit

Nice

[limpid siren]

I might be wrong

[deft badger]

what i have seen, with ines the moment she binds them she is able to land 2 hits then they esc with like 10% hp

so i would say bind works on dodge

but u have to bind them first

[glass monolith]

This one enemy disabled by everything but slow i think. And you can't dodge debuff, you can dodge only damage of attack applying it

[limpid siren]

That should have been fixed

[vernal lion]

now have fun with this

[deft badger]

hahahaa i did the same 😄

[limpid siren]

In normal play debuffs and effects are applied before damage

[glass monolith]

Oh so this is why Kroos alter actually killing them now

[jovial nest]

i forgot i had a Fia S3M3. Unfortunately....

[limpid siren]

Yea

[jovial nest]

both modes had spills

so it wouldn't have worked well either way

[glass monolith]

Well it was applying before damage, this dodge shit just loses dodge with brain lag

[jovial nest]

also Thorns was already spawncamping the box

[limpid siren]

On the event debut, SN enemies ignored this general rule

[deft badger]

lol i did have the same idea for once like Naga...
eyja fia who spawn kill them lol

[jovial nest]

the one with easier to control spilling, I used Thorns as the main spawncamper

didn't want to change my all-purpose SN team too much

[deft badger]

this was able to clear most ex and all S stages

that squad lol

s-5 i did have to add ifrit just for the fun of it to do the s3 kill on the boss

[glass monolith]

And my SN-9 desynced again

[deft badger]

my brain is going to desync, have to farm red certs again

[eager gate]

Aak pointed at Lumen

respects

[glass monolith]

HEAL FASTER

[eager gate]

But you clearly didn't shoot, that's no good

[glass monolith]

(S1 Aak )

[eager gate]

aw damn

thats boring

[deft badger]

aak on s1 xD

[eager gate]

why ever use s1 it can't kill children

[deft badger]

what do u mean he is killing

+he ccs

[glass monolith]

It is like 5th version of this damn auto. Moduled Woman W

[deft badger]

i wasn't looking for a way to kill them fast, the thing i wanted to do is look at them suffer to all the cc 😄

[eager gate]

See this girl right here

Durian her

[deft badger]

this girl is just there because she has a cc on her AA

like i did say the point is to cc them with AA and watch them try to reach the blue box lol

[eager gate]

I'm pretty sure Gnosis alone is enough for that isnt he

well w/e a clear is a clear

[deft badger]

there are way to many inc for him to hit them

it was a 2sec thought what can i bring that does have some cc on aa
i have aak gnosis, did borrow a krooster lets go the rest was just seeing what they will be able to clear

[eager gate]

Ines didn't make a single hit she's for reveal
Cheeto retreated because she'd just die to spewer

if I could find a s2 Gnosis he'd literally solo it

now that I said spewer I need to kill 21 of them somewhere

[spark sinew]

does he need mod

i can put mine

[deft badger]

to lazy for stuff like this... 🙂

[spark sinew]

don't want to do module mission during event though

[deft badger]

btw how do i use horn? 😄

[spark sinew]

especially not before they reveal second suzu module

[eager gate]

Imagine that horn is a Fiammeta s3

[spark sinew]

depends
usually you don't

[deft badger]

squid.. is3

[spark sinew]

like i don't recommend you to gore someone with it

[eager gate]

forget that she has a block count, for most purposes she doesn't need it

[deft badger]

thats what i need her for

[spark sinew]

you also need to care for it if you want it to look ok

[deft badger]

so i know she has that buff red eyes thing..
but i don't know how to use that charge skill

with the red bar, or do i use a other skill for the squid?

[spark sinew]

ok that's enough joking
red eyes is her talent

red bar is her s3 part as well, you'd need to read it

do i use a other skill for the squid?
no, s3 is the best

pull highmore from the air with a hard CC and then just use s3

it should work until like
d15

after you can't nuke phase 2 fast enough, you want to leave phase 1 barely alive, and redeploy everything

the stage won't progress to spawn new enemies until you proc the second phase

for second phase, setup a killbox so you kill highmore after she does a full lap around the stage, right around the top entrance to blue box

kill phase1, activate everything for phase 2, nuke it fast

[eager gate]

I made a 5 auto with just Melanite and kukulkan

finally a trust farm that doesn't waste trust points

[spark sinew]

is this pozy

[eager gate]

wdym

[spark sinew]

kukulkan

[eager gate]

Hool's race

[spark sinew]

oh, ok

[deft badger]

ty

[spark sinew]

it sounded a bit similar to some organization

[eager gate]

My Pozyomka is weirdly on 200 and I don't even remember when I used her that much

[deft badger]

...

[peak cloak]

lmd issues? better call Proviso and Shamare's squad

[glass monolith]

Thanks to proviso i moved from droning TP to droning Gold to droning EXP, waiting for update to drone drones

[deft badger]

@spark sinew btw bro u kinder suck at counting, how did u get the number 20

i thought for a sec i really do have 20 e2s

29 in total 😄

[spark sinew]

28 still low

[shrewd hinge]

What is droning tp

[spark sinew]

is it 28 on your krooster tho

[deft badger]

29.. 😄

nvm, which mod do i get hoshi?

Y?

[cyan gorge]

Using drones to speed up trading post production

[shrewd hinge]

Oh how could I forget
Tyty

[sly drift]

Maan

I want penance

[verbal sparrow]

unless degen does a ton of damage, I feel like she's gonna be benched on arrival

[versed arrow]

i did mod x myself for more def, y is 4block and more avoid damage chance but still rng and I dont like rng.

[sick patio]

finally 3 starred SN-10 with ling solo

[maiden pewter]

Is she pot6?

[glass monolith]

Fake news, you 100% had to roomba top because tree dude would kill your dragon

[sick patio]

i borrowed someone else's p0, s3 m2, then followed the guide off CN bilibili

[sick patio]

i managed still lol

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1C24y1F7bT/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=4fa73b5ec52d62e55ad733f4ed124cda

off this guide

[maiden pewter]

Wow good job

[versed arrow]

pot start at pot 1, pot0 is not owning the op .anyway good job

[celest bluff]

I think with Fia I can manage 24/7 up time (Kirin and Noir included)

[deft badger]

isn't x the 4 block and y the more def

[versed arrow]

x is called amulet, gives +def on block, its the one on top in module option

[deft badger]

ok nvm i did look on gamepress and it was listed 2nd there

so they did f- up the order

now looking at hoshi ingame its the first one so u have been right

[tidal sedge]

you want the def one for sure. At most mod1 the extra block mod for extra block if you need it at some point

[deft badger]

wanted the def mod anyway

i don't need the extra block

btw that explains now why the hoshi in have in my friend list wasn't able to tank some stuff at cc even if i was sure going by the stats that she will be able guy uses the dodge mod

reddit guide suggested hoshi but i wasn't able to do the same

[gusty birch]

@tidal sedge #help message

these are all my characters

only difference is that schwarz is level 35 and E2

[tidal sedge]

ok

so first of all, iirc you have canta at e1 right?

[gusty birch]

yeah

[cosmic thicket]

i forgot what are the main threats in this stage

[tidal sedge]

it looks like all enemy pathing goes in a loop

[gusty birch]

the wizards pretty much

casters > tanks

[tidal sedge]

I would bring canta just so you have more space to place your units earlier

[gusty birch]

if i had higher range snipers or casters then it wouldn't be an issue

[tidal sedge]

you prob want to spawn camp at least one lane entirely

[gusty birch]

should i switch myrtle for canta?

actually no i think mountain

[tidal sedge]

no id use both

[gusty birch]

cause kalt can kinda solo one lane

[tidal sedge]

loose czernzy prob

[cosmic thicket]

really? g4 and b8 look pretty safe imo

[gusty birch]

i usually place kalt and monster here

[tidal sedge]

spawn camp 1 lane with carries
have the entire map for the other is my logic

[gusty birch]

i'll see

[tidal sedge]

btw, didnt u also have horn?

[gusty birch]

my god i'm so poor

[gusty birch]

i do but she's e0 and underleveled

[tidal sedge]

F shouldve done horn before schawrz

[gusty birch]

i just did what someone told me to do

[tidal sedge]

wasnt blaming, mostly a joke

[gusty birch]

i could use ashlock though

[cosmic thicket]

why doesn't this work (monster on g4)

[gusty birch]

the tanks stun after 2-3 hits

[cosmic thicket]

yeah u activate skills to kill them

u can put ceobe/amiya on kal side if ur worried

rest of the squad can be like frds to stall between skill downtimes

[gusty birch]

should i still use horn though

[cosmic thicket]

horn is the much more powerful op

[gusty birch]

i'll try this then

[cosmic thicket]

uhhh

where are you gonna place everyone though

[gusty birch]

whats that site you use so i can show you

[cosmic thicket]

https://map.ark-nights.com/map/hard_06-01

wait there are only 4 defense crusher leaders lol

[gusty birch]

cause i'd copy what you did and just put ami/ceo infront of kal and put horn where tac said

[cosmic thicket]

idk i'd bring a good frd/physical damage insta helidrop (gravel, red) to drag aggro away from the casters

[tidal sedge]

this is prob what I would do when I was still a chronic irene user

and just use like ashlock or horn on left casters, their level prob doesnt even really matter for just the casters

[gusty birch]

welp that didnt work

horn is awful though

[cosmic thicket]

that's bc she's at elite 0

[gusty birch]

think i should spawncamp and leave top alone with kalt and ceobe

[cosmic thicket]

idt spawncamping is the right strat

like my strat is just wait for everyone to come to you and outheal + outrange

idk if it works though i did this stage ages ago and i didn't even do this LOL

[gusty birch]

i'll try this now

[cosmic thicket]

like the only threats in the stage are the casters, the throwers, and the defense crushers

[gusty birch]

yeah so that doesn't cover the other exit

very cool

i hate this level man

[cosmic thicket]

throwers can be outhealed and so can the casters to an extent, which is why i recommend bringing frds to bait aggro

[gusty birch]

this' one of the levels that made me quit

[wary wing]

guys
leizi or executor e2 first

[tidal sedge]

leizi

[cosmic thicket]

did you already try this + bringing some vanguards and every frd you have

[gusty birch]

yeah i tried

[cosmic thicket]

idk flip a coin

[tidal sedge]

do you care about borrowing btw

[gusty birch]

nah i'm done with this level

[gusty birch]

if this doesn't work i'm giving up

[tidal sedge]

[gusty birch]

aaand i give up

[tidal sedge]

well, for if you try this stage later, this strat worked for me pretty well, wouldve been free if I just borrowed surtr for the end. The main differences between my setup is that I have an extra blocker behind irene, more healing, and horn to kill the casters on left. For right side, your irene is alot stronger than mine, and your schwarz is also better than mine

[cosmic thicket]

yeah i just tried it, my strat can work - schwarz handles bottom lane much better than pozy so that's not an issue, and your amiya is better than my click (S3 is probably fine to kill crushers)

waiting 10 years for image to upload

yato is e0 (she did jackshit), every frd is skill level 7 no masteries, didn't use pozy typewriter and didn't redeploy vgs

i could also have activated sussurro skill

you just have to use frds as extra block count so top side doesn't fold, and bait some defense crusher attacks w/ gravel and co

@gusty birch

[gusty birch]

funny how both images are you two about to lose

[cosmic thicket]

yes because i am using a worse squad

[tidal sedge]

I purposely did not deploy my texalt

[rustic jewel]

Is that IS?

[cosmic thicket]

this was also my first attempt so i didn't really get the timings and stuff

H6-1

[gusty birch]

i still think my team is awful

[cosmic thicket]

i'll do another attempt except i actually use pozy typewriter (schwarz still outdpses vs defense crushers btw) and i'll use an E2 level 50 skill level 7 amiya s3

nah it's enough

[gusty birch]

like switch these 4 with someone else

[tidal sedge]

well ceobe should actually be pretty good for the def crushers

put her on s2

[gusty birch]

s2?

oh skill

[rustic jewel]

If you beef up yato then you can sweep the middle lane whenever they build up

[tidal sedge]

and as far as I am concerned, if you can do @cosmic thicket 's strat for the top left with kal and mountain on bottom thats also fine. It wouldnt conflict with mine

[gusty birch]

and isn't ptilopsis better than gav

[tidal sedge]

yes

you would prob need her on skill for irene to survive the throwers without relying on rng

but even then your healing isnt that strong so idk
the irene I borrowed didnt even have masteries so

[gusty birch]

yeah i just hypermaxed mine

since when she released she was broken

how about this?

imagine monster infront of ceo

[rustic jewel]

What’s your selection of ops?

[tidal sedge]

the healing on top is still scary. if you have schwarz + irene masteries it might work.
But the bottom wont work that well since most stuff will turn and go up past monst3r

[cosmic thicket]

ok yeah i managed to get the strat to work

it requires a lot of micro though

[gusty birch]

i'm missing ely and potemkin or whatever

[cosmic thicket]

basically just save amiya s3 until last wave

ely is just for dp gen, schwarz > pozy here

[tidal sedge]

schwarz is basically poz here

[gusty birch]

also why yato

[cosmic thicket]

(it's better since she outdpses pozy vs the crushers)

[cosmic thicket]

third frd that you likely already have

[gusty birch]

[cosmic thicket]

u can level 30 her

she's not expensive

[gusty birch]

pot doesn't matter?

[cosmic thicket]

nop

[rustic jewel]

Too expensive ngl

[gusty birch]

[cosmic thicket]

base issue

[gusty birch]

this game is such a pain in the ass man

[cosmic thicket]

it's fine

if you have kafka it's even better

[gusty birch]

i do

[cosmic thicket]

since u can basically just make the defense crushers stop attacking

oh ok this should be easy

[tidal sedge]

another strat btw. These two would prob duo a lane if you can kill the casters

[cosmic thicket]

u basically want to stall the first set of crushers so that it lines up closer with the second set, and it's easier to burst with 1 skill usage

i can try to record