strategy

[jovial nest]

and I AM a Thorns boi

if Thorns ain't shit on the map, I'm bringing him

[tidal sedge]

After doing horn calcs. Now I want to max pot lv90 her

[jovial nest]

his laning is just too good

strictly speaking these days

it's either I bring Horn OR Mlynar. And thats only if I need either of the two

most of the time, might be neither

when not boss

at least Horn can lane

S1 supremacy

[tidal sedge]

No

Oh s1 fine

[jovial nest]

Horn is very flexible in IS

true M9 value for me

[tidal sedge]

I thought I was about to hear another s2 laneholder take

[jovial nest]

i would use S2 if i don't have better laners/blockers

[tidal sedge]

No

[jovial nest]

what you want me to lane with this Midnight or Spot? heh

not enough DPS

also might be a duo lane

[tidal sedge]

25 seconds with 500 st dps per skill activation. No ty

[jovial nest]

vouchers are fickle

if I'm given only 2 ground units

Horn has to block

S2 has to be put

also E1 S1SL7? NO

just no

[spark sinew]

s1 is kinda crap in IS don't @ me

after e2 i almost always use s3
s2 on like sanguinarch

only talking about is3 though
I'm not sure what she brings in is4 exactly

[tidal sedge]

Shes not particularly great in is4

[jovial nest]

i agree. but Horn's S1 is just too good with masteries

[tidal sedge]

I tried using her a few times since its not like I have many options on my cn account. But her impact just doesnt seem to be as big as other options

[jovial nest]

one of the rarities

[tidal sedge]

Id rather save hope for my non existant casters

[spark sinew]

horn s1 just doesn't do enough damage for me

[tidal sedge]

I use it over fia s3

[tropic valve]

yeah I use Horn S3 > S2 > S1

but I do use S1

[jovial nest]

S3 Horn for me is when i know there's a really troublesome elite

[spark sinew]

i think i picked fia like...once in is3

[jovial nest]

most likely gonna be used a LOT more in higher diffs

wherein elites are tanky bosses

[tidal sedge]

Oh I meant in general. Using horn s1 in IS3 is only for spinach

[tropic valve]

does it even land fast enough for spinach?

[jovial nest]

it's commonly gotten for me

any instant proc

is good w spinach

[tidal sedge]

If it lands on the bottom row its consistent

[spark sinew]

i heard it can, if enemy is not too far away

[tidal sedge]

I've heard folks say it does on the row closest to her

[jovial nest]

if the ASPD is faster

it makes any range spinach worthy?

or nah?

[tropic valve]

I'm guessing if she's phased

then any row works?

but S1 doesn't have a -HP mechanic

[tidal sedge]

Idk if her aspd effects her projectile

[tropic valve]

so you'd have to plan to have enemies phase her

[spark sinew]

kinda hard to justify it still
in general spinach feels like a huge bait

[tropic valve]

yeah Spinach felt better in IS2 for some reason

probably because there were 3 items

[tidal sedge]

It'd help slightly by making animation a bit faster, probably not enough to extend effective range

[spark sinew]

if you try to force the ops that scale with it, you're also just hurting yourself

[jovial nest]

its because the best spinach users i know most of the time are Mudrock and Kroos

and lets just say IS3 is unkind to Mudrock

[tropic valve]

exactly

if you force Spinach you draft awkwardly

[jovial nest]

WAIT

[tidal sedge]

Id seen horn hit spinich beyond her closest row before, it just wasnt consistent. So ig it could be because aspd

[jovial nest]

Spinach is great for Tex2 S3's initial drop, right?

[tropic valve]

yes

[tidal sedge]

Ye, but tex s3 dmg is sht in is3

[jovial nest]

how does Ya2's S3 work with it?

[tropic valve]

it's ok with Spinach

enough damage to clean up mobs at least

[jovial nest]

how many slash dmaage can Ya2 S2 work with spinach relics?

the new hotness is Paste now

heh

i love that relic

Old George, right?

[tropic valve]

pog relic

especially on Snipers since they are generally at full health

[jovial nest]

also what relic improves ATK if squad has a lot of class variety?

its more powerful than ever now since there's complete monsters in each class these days worthy of recruiting in IS

[stuck ermine]

old fan

[limpid siren]

basically bladedance but for your whole squad

fun little prank

[tropic valve]

kinda ridiculous yeah

used Fan for my Knight one-shot video

either that or shawl is best boss drop imo

I guess shawl breaks the game more fundamentally

[lethal dragon]

FR it's broken

[tropic valve]

no one asked, but 3973 is the level of DEF beyond which Franka is the #1 physical average DPS

[strange fable]

Wow!

[limpid siren]

franka sweep

[tropic valve]

so yeah I guess I'm upgrading Franka's module even more now

[tidal sedge]

Skill that makes other ops activate skill, hm.

I remember Alsa mentioning an Aigis design that did that

[limpid siren]

was it here or somewhere else

i whinged today that skadance s1 should have been core to abjurer design

[tidal sedge]

Here iirc

[limpid siren]

damage sharing seems infinitely more interesting than conditional shelter

[tidal sedge]

I think you're misunderstanding me

Leto s2 makes other USSG ops fire skill upon it's activation it seems

[limpid siren]

no i hear you

i'm just yapping

about skills that seem interesting to me

[tidal sedge]

Ah, I'm the one misunderstanding then.

[spark sinew]

that seems so awful

[jovial nest]

The true insanity tho is Shawl

[limpid siren]

leto s2 does seem interesting

[jovial nest]

Goddamn thing is so great on an IS3 with too much dangerous damage

Based on anims, Leto's s2 has something to do with other ally skill activations?

[tidal sedge]

I kinda suspect with how popular afk skills are, AK could get it's own "Auto Homo" eventually with Leto s2 playing into this space

[spark sinew]

or am i misunderstanding it?
she makes other ops fire skill as soon as they ready it aka basically she makes them auto activate

that's just godawful

[jovial nest]

We need actual translations so lets skip out on this one

[spark sinew]

no one ever looked at amiya s2 and went "i want that"

[limpid siren]

My understanding is that if gummy is in range and has s2 ready, then when leto s2 pops, so does gummy’s

[jovial nest]

Unless Thorns and Typhon heh

[limpid siren]

It’s also specific to ussg units it seems

And lord range is just not that big

[jovial nest]

The consideration now might be how it works when ops are stunned/frozen

[limpid siren]

In all likelihood, that interaction would be as normal

[tidal sedge]

I don't see skill firing in such an instance ye, unless shenanigans are at play

Auto-activation skills don't fire when op is disabled to have an approximate example

[limpid siren]

It feels more like a token gesture towards faction synergy than anything that will be actually useful

[spark sinew]

where do you see the range part

[tidal sedge]

I think it's a prototype for a design

[glass monolith]

Mayer S2 skill don't activate on currently stunned Meebos

[tidal sedge]

Future design*

[spark sinew]

i just see that she will activate ursus student's skills, no mention of range

[lethal dragon]

Range doesn't matter

She just make them force activate it if it's ready

[spark sinew]

is this actually a tax

[limpid siren]

I guess i made up the range part

[spark sinew]

are they making their numbers on s2 busted

[limpid siren]

[spark sinew]

lol as if

[tidal sedge]

AK takes inspiration from other tower defenses, and this reminds me a lot of a kit Alsa described that exists in Aigis

[lethal dragon]

NGL I don't care about ursus knight if that is the tax to make her decent number wise I am happy

[tidal sedge]

A character who makes all other characters fire skill as soon as they're ready

[spark sinew]

very likely HG thinks it's a buff

[tidal sedge]

Used for afk clears/farming

[spark sinew]

inb4 garbage numbers

i mean tbh if you don't care about ursus

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/948754147375730698.png?quality=lossless&size=64

Very likely

[spark sinew]

you wouldn't use a random bear 5*

[lethal dragon]

Even though it's a huge debuff for ursus knights

[spark sinew]

but yeah we'll see

[limpid siren]

Maybe you wouldn’t

[spark sinew]

we don't talk about people who won't be named

[lethal dragon]

I mean it's not a condition to activate the skill
It's just an add-on

[spark sinew]

for their deeds are so heinous

[limpid siren]

This is a lot of doomposting for a unit like 5 people will care about

[spark sinew]

oh i'm not doomposting about her

but like

i don't want similar shit on a 6*...

it just limits the unit a bit more

[tidal sedge]

Her funny s2 feature besides, she appears to be phys oriented 5* lord

[sly drift]

Is cn still seething over new contingency contract?

[stuck ermine]

so it cant activate if other ursus dont have enough sp?

[lethal dragon]

"All the lord operators activate skills with said supporter"
Soon

[tidal sedge]

They've barely done that since launch design tbh. I wouldn't worry about it

[spark sinew]

specifically says "if they have skills ready"

[tidal sedge]

People don't like how Lapp and Exu work

[weak gazelle]

ohh interesting leto kit
can expect another ursus student ops in the future

[spark sinew]

destiny collab explained

[jovial nest]

She's not a new subclass. I dont think thisll be copied in anyway. Unless we consider the likes of TSS and Chen's S3 as...copied indeed even if diff subclass

[lethal dragon]

Dailies are honestly fun
Imagine starting with 250 DP and -100% dp generation

[limpid siren]

I like how lapp works 💪

[spark sinew]

they gonna resurrect someone from ursus students

[tidal sedge]

Which is a shame since I find that design interesting

[stuck ermine]

the skill might look decent when leto use s2 other ursus student gain +sp, then use their skill automatically... so, no +sp to help?

[limpid siren]

It’s funny to watch people enjoy afk ops but still shit on lappland for auto-activation

[jovial nest]

Eno Sasha zombies

[spark sinew]

this is on her s2 though
i am aware she's not a new subclass

[jovial nest]

[lethal dragon]

That'd be broken

But that's not the case

[celest bluff]

What gonna be the next two banner and events

[spark sinew]

i mean they can put it on module if you really cope
but it's 5*

[limpid siren]

next banner is very likely executor the ex foodeater

[jovial nest]

New Ursus Student Body operator..."Ex-Gummy Dinner"

[stuck ermine]

5* are just bunch of funny kids doing funny stuff

[weak gazelle]

at least now HG care more about faction synergy when design new ops kit

[spark sinew]

it just seems they do random shit tbh

[limpid siren]

i'm not a big fan of explicit/forced faction synergy tbh

[tidal sedge]

Although what rarity and archetype will AK's probable "auto homo" will be. Hmm.

[spark sinew]

looking at blem module or whisplash for example

[celest bluff]

5* is just worse 4*

[limpid siren]

or at least the abyssal hunters have very boring synergy

[limpid siren]

how is this take still around in 2023

[jovial nest]

Ngl I dont want to be in HG's shoes. They add more ops/towers than even Bloons 6

Youre gonna run out of tower ideas

[limpid siren]

4*s blow

they have even smaller power budgets and a fraction of the fun gimmicks

[weak gazelle]

yeah if faction things there always pro & con which understandable

[celest bluff]

Cheap base slave moment

[tidal sedge]

I think the Kazi redeploy faction package was kinda interesting for a while, but HG hasn't provided any support for it since module upgrade release. Mlynar doesn't really like redeploying even

[weak gazelle]

i just got bored with how HG new ops design
just overlapping one and another
seeing leto kit, seem a good sign they give more thought (at least i hope they do so) about new ops kit

[tidal sedge]

I agree Fish Comp is boring big stats, but it enjoys a good deal of popularity it seems

[jovial nest]

Leto
5* Guard [Lord]
Trait
Can launch Ranged Attacks that deal 80% of normal ATK
Talent 1
When skill is activated, increase Attack Speed of all [Ursus Student Council] operators until the end of the skill
Skill 1
When skill is activated, increase ATK and Attack Speed
Skill 2
When skill is activated, immediately activate the skills of all [Ursus Student Council] operators with ready skills. Within the skill duration, increase ATK, target 1 additional enemy and ranged attacks no longer have reduced ATK

Meh

Unless that ASPD is gonna make Rosa be insane

Which might only apply to her S2

[lethal dragon]

Huh?

It applies to S1 too

[tidal sedge]

Rosa buffing has Spuria for competition whatever that's worth

[lethal dragon]

Oh wait you mean Rosa s2

[jovial nest]

Yeah

[spark sinew]

are we thinking of letp that low now

[lethal dragon]

It's good in general
For Jaye istina

[weak gazelle]

istina would get more benefit from leto +aspd

[spark sinew]

her competition is spuria?

[tidal sedge]

I didn't mean it like that

[lethal dragon]

Beehunter

[latent monolith]

Jaye is not USSG

[lethal dragon]

Oh true I mixed up

[latent monolith]

It's for USSG not bears

[jovial nest]

Talking about Spuria i think?

[latent monolith]

Spuria doesn't buff jaye or istina either

[tidal sedge]

It was just an off-the-cuff comparison as I've been considering Spuria for that

[limpid siren]

it's popular because it's boring

[lethal dragon]

Nah I mixed it up with bear knights

[limpid siren]

it works out of the box

[weak gazelle]

anyway
anyone here willing to get and build spuria?

[limpid siren]

if i get spuria i'll build her

but ho ly

[lethal dragon]

ok but executor banner

[limpid siren]

she is so insanely bad

[spark sinew]

i'm sure she'll come during exalter pulls

[tidal sedge]

Ntrk 2nd module not leaning into Kazi comp is a big disappointment for me too on the matter of faction comps

[eager gate]

I see yall talking about new cn stuff
Do we have all of the patch info already?

[weak gazelle]

tbh i wanna see her performance on actual battle

[lethal dragon]

Absolutely hate him for breaking the tradition of reapers' atk animation

[jovial nest]

Skipping Exalter's banner. Good luck to ya'll who will pull there

[weak gazelle]

curious it is bad as i've heard or not that bad (at least have some use one way or another)?

[spark sinew]

i want to joke about exalter being a sidegrade of something

[jovial nest]

I'm not too sold in Exalter

[spark sinew]

but i can't find what to joke about

hmm

[tidal sedge]

I definitely think it's kinda phoned in. I think she exists mostly just to check off a 5* geek

[jovial nest]

He's solid. But i'm looking for "exceptional"

[limpid siren]

her kit is infuriating

not only is her talent only a 70% chance to proc

she doesn't even get any chance for self-sustain

!

why??? good question

her s2 buffs a specific class, but only a narrow slice of that class can actually benefit

and the buff is tiny too!

lol!

[jovial nest]

A geek that cant self sustain? Well, same can be said if Aak cant hit anyone heh

[eager gate]

they shouldve just made so her self dmg doesn't kill her

[spark sinew]

i mean she's clearly designed to helidrop

[weak gazelle]

i remember i heavily bad mouthing spuria kit when i see it first time

[limpid siren]

she's clearly designed to be thrown in the bin

[tidal sedge]

I'm honestly surprised Geek module trait doesn't do that tbh

[jovial nest]

Agreed

[limpid siren]

spuria is an out of season april fool's prank

[weak gazelle]

if you said that
then i throw the idea of borrowing her

[eager gate]

I hate that we have to wait extra 6 months for U official

[polar crane]

she's a troll unit why would you want her

[weak gazelle]

oh right leto is phys dmg?

[tidal sedge]

Wait her buff is worse than I thought. I thought the atk buff was higher than +30%

[eager gate]

Do we have proper info about modules in new cn update? I want to know if I should be pissed about Carne's being shit again or happy that it's decent

[tidal sedge]

What was I thinking of

[limpid siren]

yea it's so bad

[tidal sedge]

No preview yet

[limpid siren]

20s duration too

[spark sinew]

is3 shit

[limpid siren]

so the units that can actually benefit only get a handful of shots off

[weak gazelle]

i got the feeling carne mod would be same like fartooth mod treatment
both are sad

[spark sinew]

shush, you

[eager gate]

Should've been a 20 ammo skill that consumes ammo when buffed op shoots

[spark sinew]

she gonna get +2sp/second

[tidal sedge]

The duration is kinda troll since I would've figured she was vaguely intended to work well with ammo skills as that seems to be a new thing for Latereno ops

But the more notable part of her buff is aspd which ammo skills don't really care about anyways

[eager gate]

The skill itself is troll cause laterano snipers shoot a lot and would get instantly stunned

[limpid siren]

the aspd is a troll

[eager gate]

Even a damned Executor shoots twice

though his interval probably makes it not that scary

[weak gazelle]

agreed with lurker and igneus said

[spark sinew]

tbf when did you last see executor using s2

[eager gate]

I have a friend who simps for him

[spark sinew]

outside of buff comps i would just use s1

[limpid siren]

OD annihilation, but both skills worked

[spark sinew]

and inside buff comps
what went wrong with your life

that you're buffing executor

[eager gate]

I hyperbuffed Cheeto in Chungus event

so she killed both clone and boss

at once

[limpid siren]

tag yourself

[foggy grove]

hyperbuff kroos as mini exu

[eager gate]

It was too much effort for what could've been done by just slapping a Chengun sideways

But I'm happy because Cheeto kill boss for once in her lifetime

[weak gazelle]

ohh right anyone here have jie yun built ready that i can borrow?

[eager gate]

Mine is modless

but I can probably buy it rn

[weak gazelle]

no need for mods
and sl7 enough

[eager gate]

Io#4138 then ig

[weak gazelle]

ok thanks

[eager gate]

thats i

[tidal sedge]

Cliff s2?

[sly drift]

Because you play it in max risk right?
Tbh I like the idea of pushing player to their limit. Because that's exactly what end game should be.

But it still doesn't matter because most player will just copy other player strat

Man.. I wish more player try harder to make their own strat from 0

[limpid siren]

yea i didn't have s1m3 back then

[sly drift]

But cn aren't wrong tho. Arknight dev been real bastard lately. We don't even get royal token again even though it's not very valuable for most player. They also remove yellow cert from *6 welfare rerun.

[tidal sedge]

Understandable

[limpid siren]

They also remove yellow cert from *6 welfare rerun.
wasn't that just vigil

[jovial nest]

Ah such nostalgia

[limpid siren]

cn are a bunch of yappers just like us anyway

[jovial nest]

Its Vigil and hmmm, wasnt there a newer one with the same annoyance as that?

[sly drift]

I heard they're seething about lessing too?

[jovial nest]

Ah yes

Lessing

[limpid siren]

lessing got the same treatment?

[jovial nest]

Yeah

[limpid siren]

no real loss there

[jovial nest]

There is

Less gold certs

[limpid siren]

the horror

[eager gate]

The fuck
What did gold certs do to hg

Kill someone's mum?

[tidal sedge]

I'm actually surprised you're being so cavalier about this.

Not that I think it's disastrous, but it is HG being less generous for glaringly obvious reasons

[eager gate]

I don't think harming f2p experience so directly is a good move regardless of issues at hand

[solid dew]

too many people spending certs on ops and not spending money to get them
the poor indie company needs every penny

[eager gate]

gold certs provide like 80 pulls at every limited for f2p

Gotta count if that actually takes away enough goldies to make players unable to buy out tickets in 2nd month

if you still can gather enough then no real harm

[sly drift]

Nah they will revert it. They will give you yellow cert again.

Cn malding is something Dev can't ignore

[eager gate]

ye makes sens

[limpid siren]

i'm too far into post-scarcity to care

[eager gate]

Honestly if they just weren't as direct in approach I don't think anyone would notice fast

[limpid siren]

i use my gold certs on mats sometimes

[solid dew]

god bless the CN community 🫡

[jovial nest]

@vernal lion i just saw a comment of you saying you enjoy 243 cause you dont like visiting base 4 times a day?

I'm not here to change your base but I want to correct a common misunderstanding. Actual good 252s only visit base 2 times.

Edit: actually even shitty 252s would visit 2 times too.

[tidal sedge]

So it's more from a personal standpoint

Makes sense. I've been blowing mine on module blocks

[limpid siren]

i think it's a mountain out of a molehill still

the premise ignores that hg never needed to give you a 6* welfare in the first place

people only care about most welfares because of the certs anyway

[tidal sedge]

I would normally agree with that logic, but not in this case. I think it's not unreasonable since it's a pretty established tradition and it's motivated by them thinking better of their prior generosity

Or highly likely to be

[tropic valve]

all this complaining and no one brought up the real issue, class squad first voucher should be automatic E2 in IS

[vernal lion]

wait Utage in recruitment ?

ha

[limpid siren]

it just seems like small potatoes to me

if i was going to whinge about something i'd rather talk about operator kits

or event/enemy design

the actual gameplay itself

people are angry because being angry is fun

and they know that if they make enough noise, they'll get something out of it

[tidal sedge]

I see.

[tropic valve]

agreed

[eager gate]

We'll just go back to those being the only viable picks that aren't spearhead

[fast basin]

Trump's america

[tropic valve]

I'd much rather see balance changes for ops that sorely need it

[eager gate]

at first I thought it's sped up but

[vernal lion]

funny specialist relic

[eager gate]

Did CN fix Kazemaru s2?

[spark sinew]

that's what people who play on d0 experience

[tidal sedge]

Wdym

[sly drift]

To me it looks more of "fighting back" actually.
And I think there's nothing to complain about the gameplay.

[eager gate]

Clone staying permanently if you summon it during her death

[civic bear]

Nah

[sly drift]

What

[tidal sedge]

Not sure

[civic bear]

I mean the use is pretty limited and not very practical anyway

[tidal sedge]

I've only ever done it by accident

[civic bear]

The clone is gone after the next s2 skill or when main body dies.

[eager gate]

So Kazemaru s2 has a summon animation, and if her main body dies before the animation finishes the clone detaches from her and stays on the map permanently, won't even go away if you retreat her main body

[sly drift]

What if you deploy her again on different place

[eager gate]

Until you use another s2 it'll stay

[sly drift]

What an amazing bug

[eager gate]

or, well, until it gets killed

[tidal sedge]

Shoot, wrong one

[eager gate]

#strategy message

Here an example kek

[tidal sedge]

If they haven't fixed it by now I doubt they ever will unless it enables some notable cheese

[eager gate]

Kaminingyo doesn't attack air unlike real body sadly

if it did oh boy it'd be SO MUCH more useful

[limpid siren]

main body kaminingyo can iirc

[eager gate]

yep

[limpid siren]

oh i missed you saying that

[tidal sedge]

That inconsistency annoys me

[limpid siren]

iirc it caused her skill doll to not benefit from module too

[eager gate]

Kazemaru is already a really good 5*
Her having a great uptime air killer with 1500 atk would make her a lot more stronger

[tidal sedge]

I like Kazemaru a lot but there's so many annoying little things in her kit. Albeit my biggest complaint is moreso in comparison to a 6* who gets QoL feature that Kazemaru gets denied

[limpid siren]

for how much i wanted kaze, i don't use her very often

[eager gate]

oh damn if Kazemaru had a resurrect sp refund

oh boy OH BOY

[tidal sedge]

I'm actually talking about Ntrk

[eager gate]

What do you mean then

my ntrk is level 1 I've no clue what she has

[tidal sedge]

Ntrk s3 sun gets fixed positioning if no valid targets to drop on. Kazemaru s2 gets stuck with summon getting dropped on random tile if no valid targets. Kazemaru was released after Ntrk

So stupid

[eager gate]

its not random

it's closest to blue

[sly drift]

Rosmontis have much worse issue then
They don't even try to fix it

[eager gate]

which is honestly an ass position to spawn s2 in

[tidal sedge]

Ros has the excuse they didn't think of it back then

Kazemaru existing after such a feature was made and used is inexcusable

[limpid siren]

?

[tidal sedge]

It's especially annoying as Kazemaru has a lot of reasons to pre-fire s2 as it quasi-extends her range

[limpid siren]

🪞

[tidal sedge]

But pre-firing it is risky because summon might drop in a useless position

Unless you like use a trapper to manipulate it, but you really shouldn't have to do so

A more minor annoyance is Dollkeeper X module atk buff to doll applies after she does her arts attack upon swap

[eager gate]

My observation might be wrong then
She detects enemies in possible range, but I thought the clone would otherwise always appear closes to blue

[limpid siren]

i thought it was just the same as beeswax from my experience

[tidal sedge]

Firewatch s2 is probably the OG example

Well, not quite

Beeswax makes more sense ye

[tidal sedge]

Anyhow, why is this exactly? Her dps is pretty high and the cycle is among the most ideal isn't it? Or is the self-harm and/or lacking bulk a more real problem than it seems?

[sly drift]

I'm done eps 12 and just learned that mostima s3 can slow civilian and can easily reveal them with that range

The most effective shit

[limpid siren]

just an attention management thing i guess
i'm more fond of lane dps and/or blockers that require less attention

if i'm not optimising for low op then i prefer to minimise how many operators need more careful attention

[tidal sedge]

I see.

[limpid siren]

croissant s1 has become a mainstay for lazy squads

auto skills 💪

that's a part of squad building i like though

it's nice to have some foundational units that just chug along

[vernal lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952811082035114044/970926844360675379/justusesurtr.gif

[tidal sedge]

I'm surprised La Pluma wasn't said

[solid dew]

RNGesus did not favor surtr on that day

[tidal sedge]

But then again, I've kinda felt she's been a bit prone to dying lately

[limpid siren]

yea she's had a rough time of it lately

she's always been pretty feast or famine

it's just that famine is coming up more often now

[tidal sedge]

I suppose if the 6* autopilot laneholders have been feeling the heat, she'd feel it all the moreso

[sly drift]

She lack of ice cream

[limpid siren]

i will say

i'm a big fan of how bricks are back in fashion

i've always been a big fan of the good o'l tank and spank

[tidal sedge]

Yeah, I'm glad HG is making more enemies that genuinely threaten guard statlines

[solid dew]

patriots "cream of the crop" really went downhill after he 🪦 huh

[vernal lion]

dw, we have ZT enemies like that

[polar crane]

like what

[weak gazelle]

i see
so jie yun s2 chakram always in fixed position
curious if mod apply to her chakram too?

[vernal lion]

max stack dmg

[polar crane]

I know this guy by heart

[vernal lion]

don't you love instrument banging in your face

[polar crane]

turn off his music and he's pretty much a useless melee enemy

[sly drift]

Stack by keep attacking?

[vernal lion]

stand by

[glass monolith]

Me with DR abuse: Finally a worthy opponent

[vernal lion]

Stun: how about no?

[glass monolith]

Confused screaming

[vernal lion]

and PO coming in 5th

[eager gate]

What's in PO rewards?

Can I just not do it

[polar crane]

a robot

[vernal lion]

robot will be added to recruitment anyway

[polar crane]

you get like 4 module block and a few t5 mats

[eager gate]

this thing looks like it's an angry skynet printer

with a polaroid attached

[vernal lion]

looks like a coffee maker to me

[polar crane]

is there something weird with is3 screen?

[tidal sedge]

Not the normal screen

Memory Mapping however

[polar crane]

at least it not the missing texture in source engine

[vernal lion]

Yostar

[eager gate]

[limpid siren]

classic yotar

[fringe jackal]

IS3 is complete borked

and here I was thinking that you guys had censored out your ecosequence

[glass monolith]

Yo monthly shop

[fringe jackal]

but at least I finally have suzu for SN S stages

[jovial nest]

good point

[jovial nest]

i mean...imagine doing the actual update on Dec 5 cause they can't be arsed to pay more money to app stores for a separate update

CN didn't have to do this kind of bullshit

and now they're tearing stuff up cause of it

reminds me of them delaying IS3's actual release

so they can line it up with Il Siracusano Day 1

[tidal sedge]

I thought of that too, but I don't buy that as they pre-loaded content before in such cases

[jovial nest]

preloaded

so why do they need Dec 5

preloaded MY ASS

[tidal sedge]

It's just nonsense incompetence instead of motivated incompetence is all I'm saying

[jovial nest]

i get the efficiency they're trying to go with

but ffs

they decided its worth changing dates

rather than copy CN 1:1

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648597785444220941/1172002579329339402/image.png?ex=657a6af5&is=6567f5f5&hm=c322bcd813416c6d7e65641470c8a9f0d75264c39577230ec1bc6c15095e2813&

you know why on November 9 this was the enemy list?

cause SSS and IS3 Ed4 was delayed too long

that they should've existed way long before Kristen existed

them swapping the reruns with the limited events also feel like they're trying to make the summer anniversary feel less forced

[eager gate]

⭐

[deft badger]

lol

[mortal forge]

Weedy can't push bakc Crownslayer on today's CC

Wth

[jovial nest]

there's no mention of increased weight?

[tropic valve]

lmao

this is better than that CA-5 gif

[jovial nest]

Predators are awesome memes

and someone managed to capture the unluckiest mofo to ever use Surtr

[supple widget]

Plz help I'm trying to get to sn-9 because I hear it's good for Manganese Ore but the ones got me stuck

[jovial nest]

why not try to use Kal S2 and block the pathway of the spill and the elite guys?

oh wait

you need help in SN-7

[supple widget]

Yeah

[jovial nest]

how's your rhoomba? got the option to clean spills now?

[supple widget]

Yeah

[jovial nest]

whats killing you?

[pearl breach]

Kals top left add some DPS or cc. Also clean it with the Roomba. The rest is pretty explanatory

Kals S3.

[jovial nest]

lets ask first what's killing them...

i don't want to be judgmental if they have the same SN-7 issue as most

[supple widget]

Namely the mfers keep stunning me and spilling past or the guides shielding themselves or end speaker lol

So basically everything except the sea dog things lmao

[jovial nest]

who do you borrow?

[supple widget]

I tried my go to thorns then I tried to Kirin things before they got to me

[vapid shell]

Is Utage a viable option for IS3 Floor 10+? I want to use her for 1v1 against Broodmothers

[jovial nest]

Borrow Texas Alter S3

that will solve most of the leaking issues or any lane that needs help

try it first in practice

just make sure to keep 1 slot open for her to drop

[supple widget]

Alright I'll give her a go ty

[sullen rover]

she arts damage

[vapid shell]

Ye, i know that

The +RES debufs are too hard for her?

[sullen rover]

maybe but if it works it works

[vapid shell]

Cuz im looking for 1-block to deal with them

and preferably from 5/4*

[cyan gorge]

She doesn’t win those

I tried

[sullen rover]

you can try killing them with like snipers

or if you have mlynar you can place him for them to target him instead of others

[vapid shell]

So she cant pen 50Res at the end of the day

[vapid shell]

No mlynar

[sullen rover]

build dc and go mlynar start

er you can try deploying tequila last them ig

then

[vapid shell]

Akafuyu/ Jaye ?

[sullen rover]

kirito should do a good dmg against them

jaye is kinda sus for is3

akafuyu i never used her

drafting akafuyu over specter teq bibeak highmore mlynar ntrk is kinda sus tbh

[vapid shell]

I do have Bibeak Specter

Highmore is not built yet

[sullen rover]

the way i deal with broodmothers is usually just using ranged units or mwyner/teq

or drop texalter/yato alter

[jovial nest]

a small update happened. got kicked out

is this fixing the hilarious IS3 screen

fixed

[sullen rover]

wtf mine still show this dumb white screen with chinese letters

[jovial nest]

restart app

there was a 20 MB update

yay we get 200 orundumb

[sullen rover]

pull poggers

[jovial nest]

sigh

Skadi's relic is boring

[pliant furnace]

for h12-4 do ppls count like which civilians are alright to leak or just block everyone

[versed arrow]

I just block/check everyone in the entire ch12, the completionist in me is not letting civi go unchecked

except for h12-3 where there is too much civilians rush at the start and I cannot block them all

[glass monolith]

First civilians all sus, second large group mostly civilians, last group MEGA SUS

[fringe jackal]

Based comment

[foggy grove]

sus comment

[pliant furnace]

true
very sus

[jovial nest]

oooh the last reward of the levels is finally up

and its my favorite

but gotta wait for Ed4 update

[celest bluff]

All civilian is potential combatants

[glass monolith]

Texas alter event - ALL civilians are active combatant

[jovial nest]

also first time I've used E2 Ya2 on IS3

damn she's potent

[turbid badge]

ed4

[valid kraken]

Which stage is the easiest?

And is my team good enough for annihilation? Or should i lvl them to elite 0 max and some elite 1 lvl 10

[glass monolith]

You start off with Chernobog

[valid kraken]

Ic, thanks

[solar venture]

I think ursus is easy. I kill 150 enemies with 50 operator level.

[jovial nest]

one tip

the first 350 enemies don't matter

it's the last 50 that will kill you

[valid kraken]

What's the goal of annihilation?

[jovial nest]

free orundums per week

at a cap

[valid kraken]

What!

[jovial nest]

don't get too excited

it's not a ton amt (per week)

but free pulls are free pulls

[valid kraken]

I should've tried annihilation when I unlocked it

[jovial nest]

you never bothered to ask

[glass monolith]

Rip like... 2-4 pulls you missed

[valid kraken]

I didn't know, but i think i still have time

My weekly mission hasn't reseted yet

[glass monolith]

It reset on 27th last time, you joined server on 28th

[polar crane]

it reset already

[jovial nest]

iirc the orundum cap increases are tied to anni 1-3?

make it simpler. EN resets every monday

[polar crane]

anni3 only give up to 1700

rotating anni give the last 100

[valid kraken]

No, i still have 2days until reset for me

[jovial nest]

the goal imo is to first clear anni 1-3

[glass monolith]

It is like 200 cap in Anni 1, 200 in anni 2, 100 for 3 and current?

[valid kraken]

And im still new i have been playing for 5 days i think

[polar crane]

oh yeah it still Friday

I somehow time traveled to monday

[valid kraken]

Lol

[tidal sedge]

Imagine caring about the day when playing arknights

I only go by "days till" I dont know of this MoNDaY

[polar crane]

play anni now it should be easy with e1

[valid kraken]

I mean im still new so i can still count the days I've been playing until i forget about it

[polar crane]

you can always check your profile to count day

[valid kraken]

Oh

[polar crane]

it have your account creation date

[valid kraken]

Oh mine is 2023-11-28

[glass monolith]

I personally used to look up guides for annihilations, because it was easier than redo 20 minutes of my life each time

Yea you cool you didn't miss last weekly reset

[verbal sparrow]

I would just use the map planner

that tells you about enemies beforehand

[polar crane]

it easier to just watch a video

[verbal sparrow]

some people don't want to look up solutions to a puzzle before they give a try

[valid kraken]

I might try to do annihilation once my sanity is refilled and research about it

[jovial nest]

oh yeah

did someone say already

to kill the app

[smoky halo]

you can force quit app to save on sanity in case run went bad

[jovial nest]

before you lose all 10 HP or get all 400 kills

or just get all 400 enemies leak/killed

you lose no sanity doing that in annis

this only applies to anni

so you get unlimited tries

[glass monolith]

Or be that smartass Naga and go plane mode after starting stage

[jovial nest]

if you kill app before any official "clear"

[smoky halo]

why airplane mode? doesnt that just disconnect you?

[valid kraken]

I can't absorb your info because i haven't tried annihilation yet

[jovial nest]

before you:

• kill all 400 enemies
• lose all 10 HP
• kill/leak all 400 enemies
  quit app = you get all sanity back from anni

[valid kraken]

Alr

[smoky halo]

annil refunds sanity based on num of enemies killed, if u made a mistake on ur attempt u can force quit app so that the game thinks you killed 0 enemies which means u get full sanity refund

[polar crane]

yeah it will disconnect you after you clear stage

[jovial nest]

so as long as you have 25 sanity

unli practice

[solar venture]

The orundums caps is 1200 right ? Even if i clear another, i can't get it anymore except from challenge reward.

[polar crane]

you can play the stage completely offline

[valid kraken]

Ic

[polar crane]

just need internet on the clear screen

[jovial nest]

caps increase in anni 1,2,3,recent

[glass monolith]

Killing. Good.
More kills. More gacha currency. (Max cap 3 pulls per week, you start with 2 pulls per week).
Sanity refund on how much you away from 400 kills.
Disconnect refund 100% sanity (because 0 kills refunds 100% and you don't send data real time when doing stages, only on completion)

[smoky halo]

oh didnt know that

[polar crane]

max cap is 1800

[spark sinew]

did you always have this pfp

or was it surtr at one point

[jovial nest]

oh yeah the only time you need internet connection is navigating the UI, starting a battle, or ending a battle

so during a battle, no internet usage

[solar venture]

Really ? How ?

[spark sinew]

you do need internet during battle in coop

[jovial nest]

one at a time

[spark sinew]

🏃‍♂️

[jovial nest]

400-kill enemies clear anni 1, and then 2, and then 3, and then recent

[valid kraken]

I understand now...

[polar crane]

like what jusan said above anni1,2,3 and rotating anni

[polar crane]

it was surtr at one point

[spark sinew]

k, so I'm not crazy

cool

[polar crane]

you're new here how did you know me?

[spark sinew]

you had surtr pfp after i joined

[polar crane]

alright

[glass monolith]

I recall some random time when there was like 3-4 Surtr with same pfp

[jovial nest]

ah...memories when my PFP used to be Closure

actually you know what...

[polar crane]

I remember you jusan

[gray stone]

yeah he just had cropped corn for pfp

always

[spark sinew]

i remember now

[deft badger]

ofc what are we missing again...

[celest bluff]

Be me playing SN-ex-3
Fall asleep for 5 seconds

MISSION FAILED

[deft badger]

lol

done with it

[versed arrow]

mission fail is still ok, you have 1st fail sanity refund. The worst that can happen is you think you are done so you afk and it ended 2 stars

[jovial nest]

2nd worst thing is either happening in CM

[eager gate]

Defender gaming spotted
A healthy dose of ridiculous statstick enemies and a wave of casters is recommended as treatment

[deft badger]

she wants her e2

[glass monolith]

She took "Parry this, casual" literally

[deft badger]

i don't have much more left, ifrit is done hoshi will be done tomorrow then i can switch to lin 😄

ahh yeah weedy -.-

[glass monolith]

(cry in Mumuless)

[deft badger]

f- mumu

she is not going to get her e2

[celest bluff]

Wait
4 wandering medic

Honeyberry
Mulberry
Chestnut
And who

[polar crane]

eyja alt if you count her

otherwise only 3 in en

[livid delta]

Haroldberry

[turbid badge]

HAROLDBERRY

5

eyjaberyy try

[celest bluff]

She gonna be a "ze healing is not fun as ze hurting" medic right?

[latent anvil]

[gray stone]

Male so no

Haroldnut

[latent anvil]

eyja alt is for healing

lots of healing

[turbid badge]

chestberry

[crisp bolt]

chestnut is a berry

[glass monolith]

Deezberry

[supple widget]

Harold looks cool

[celest bluff]

Who the fuck is Harold again

Someone's dad?

[gray stone]

Lappland's dad

[celest bluff]

Yep it is lapp

[gray stone]

Me when I spread misinformation on the internet

[turbid badge]

ussg buff fr

yeah lappland totally didnt have her dad shown b4

[celest bluff]

Oh yeah this guy is blue

And I forgot how her dad look

But I sure he wasn't blue

[gray stone]

lmao

lol even

[turbid badge]

“Yep it is lapp”

lappland rn

[celest bluff]

[celest bluff]

Rosmontis I kid you not

Brought the skin but the default chibi look better

[glass flare]

if I'm in the middle of IS and I pick up an operator E2 level 40 in the run. If I pause the run and upgrade her to E2 lvl 90 will it change in the run or remain level 40 until reset?

[celest bluff]

Upgrade

[cyan gorge]

No it'll update

[glass flare]

that's huge

tytyty

[celest bluff]

My dude it even acknowledged from E1 to E2

[glass monolith]

It even acknowledge changing Amiya from newspaper Bnuuy to "why newspaper skin don't apply to guard?" Bnuuy

[tidal sedge]

So, Leto buffs aspd for all ursus students on skill

Rosa meta

[glass monolith]

I don't care about that part. Can we double activate Rosa S3 with her?

[tidal sedge]

What wtf is this shit

Skill 2: When skill is activated, immediately activate the skills of all [Ursus Student Council] operators with ready skills. Within the skill duration, increase ATK, target 1 additional enemy and ranged attacks no longer have reduced ATK

Its just phys lapp s2 except she sabotages her team

[tidal sedge]

Oh thats what you mean. I C I C. I guess it doesnt say if it uses their skill and stuff. But I cant say I am optimistic

[glass monolith]

Either way we will cook something

[robust hemlock]

idk how the hell i should complete a boss on S...

if all S stages such a weird shit....

[glass monolith]

You god chests so can't even blame you for taking L to social sanity score

[robust hemlock]

ah ok....

for some reason boss stage not so hard

but its too bad that i didnt do that on 3*

always 1 shit who run away

[supple widget]

Is there anyway to elementaly heal Mon3tr

He keeps getting stunned by something

[glass monolith]

Seaborn grass apply EMOTIONAL elemental damage, half of this damn event apply elemental damage. Effect when full - Get stunned lol

[robust hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-emotional-damage-gif-24983988

[glass monolith]

Preventing stun is impossible unless you e2 Lee, and i don't know if it possible to reduce stun duration on them with resistance because all resistance sources i remember work only on healable targets

[robust hemlock]

here just better not to use unhealable units

with mulberry and lumen

but anyway i complete it even without this

for me i have no idea how to survive against spikes and complete first B on 3

[vernal lion]

very easy tasks for such high rank mission

[robust hemlock]

ah wait

now know

ok first B fixed

[royal rose]

This roster can’t beat Mama John’s 6, can it?

The rebel girl is too op and I need to defend 4 lanes

That’s basically impossible, no?

[tidal sedge]

Ok this sucks

Omg this is bs

[gray stone]

Wow

Can I have that for normal Texas please

[celest bluff]

Should I juice up my Honeyberry to e2 now

I mean with lmd and chips

Because by the lord I have no chip

[limpid siren]

if you take her to e2, she needs mastery

waste of mats otherwise

[celest bluff]

What the heck

[limpid siren]

she has shit atk and atk gain
honeyberry's strength comes from skill levels

[celest bluff]

God damn it

But I just need that elemental damage removal

[limpid siren]

e2 by itself isn't really an upgrade for her ele healing

you could also just borrow my honeyberry

[celest bluff]

I gonna be damn if other wandering medic is better than her

[limpid siren]

eyjafjalla coming soon is much better

generally i wouldn't recommend e2 honey

[celest bluff]

Fucking wandering archetype

[turbid badge]

[tidal sedge]

Wandering is lame

Need to wander = cringe

[celest bluff]

Chat

Now what

[tidal sedge]

I would take shield since you only have boss left right

[celest bluff]

Or

[tidal sedge]

[celest bluff]

Yeah I need to beat Mizuki

[tidal sedge]

Huh? Wait is that mizuki stage

[celest bluff]

Or I go with the +50 aspd, take

[celest bluff]

Yes

[tidal sedge]

Is ed4 on global already

[latent anvil]

[celest bluff]

Oh wait

It not mizuki?

[tidal sedge]

Show me map idk name

[celest bluff]

That isn't mizuki?

[latent anvil]

its ending3

lol

ending4 isnt out yet

[celest bluff]

Oh okay

[latent anvil]

ending4 comes out on the 5th i think

[tidal sedge]

Okie thats what I thought

[celest bluff]

So I have 1 ho

1 hp

[tidal sedge]

What difficulty are you on btw

And have you done the stage b4?

[celest bluff]

Memory mapping

[celest bluff]

No

[latent anvil]

its d0

[celest bluff]

The flame slug whooped my ass

[tidal sedge]

Oh well

Normal skadi s3 will prob murder boss. Just focus on covering the golden tiles. And if you have extra dp just help your skadi

Get dp, then place skadi with s3 above the boss when you enter, thats where she moves

[celest bluff]

Do I take shield or go yolo with the relic now

Because I having +50aspd relic

[tidal sedge]

I dont ever trust relic. I always hoard life points. But thats just me

[tidal sedge]

Oh I dont think shield removes that

[limpid siren]

12 shield is usually more valuable than the random relic

[turbid badge]

ew

sl7

[celest bluff]

Sl7?

[tidal sedge]

Your skalter doesnt have masteries. Skill lv7

[crisp bolt]

she's defective

[celest bluff]

See you in 3 days

M6? Sure

[crisp bolt]

s2 is her main skill

[celest bluff]

But man

I currently need more damage

[deft badger]

m9

kinder did feal sad that i didn't spark her but nvm
i love all of her skills -.-

[ocean herald]

help pls

stupid ass stage

FUCK this stage

[vernal lion]

[limpid siren]

A fortress defender can kill the spewers top right if you keep them healed

[vernal lion]

can you just kill them with your ranged attack op

Pozy has not even deployed yet lol

[limpid siren]

They’re quite far away

[vernal lion]

no, he has Yato tho

[limpid siren]

For laning, lappland is a big help

CM bans those tiles

Might as well plan ahead

[ocean herald]

bruh the blue motherfuckers keep killing everything

[vernal lion]

shirayuki works fine

with s1

[tropic valve]

for this map, if you just let the brand spread

and only use ranged units

it works pretty well

[ocean herald]

!?

[tropic valve]

maybe 1 or 2 ground units as emergency

actually this applies to most of the event not just this map

bouncy roomba can kill all the spewers

[gray stone]

Oh, Fartooth tile map

[shut siren]

how tf do u beat this map 😭

[vernal lion]

borrow Hoshi s2 and deploy her to block the nethersea brand

can borrow Totter too if you want

[shut siren]

alright thank you

i tried being big brain and using silverash but 💀

i think u can imagine how that went

[near hornet]

Anyone have gnosis

[near hornet]

Use more range op

[latent anvil]

yea

[near hornet]

M3 ??

[latent anvil]

what skill

[near hornet]

3

[next frost]

S3

[latent anvil]

gimme ur id ill put him up

[near hornet]

ok

Kori#6106

[latent anvil]

good luck

[near hornet]

Ok

[turbid badge]

wgz has space?

[latent anvil]

i just culled one

teta pro what five stars you missing

[turbid badge]

itoldu b4

[latent anvil]

cement borca prvios

[turbid badge]

did u surpass. me

[latent anvil]

no i have no red certs

[turbid badge]

[latent anvil]

also i have no indra

[turbid badge]

wtf doublevulcan

[latent anvil]

nah i have boht vohucers

[turbid badge]

oh

[latent anvil]

also i can get iris or ayerscrarp from the other vouch, so i can have two more than you

[turbid badge]

wtfcheat

[latent anvil]

what to pull for next

[turbid badge]

imm gosantalla

santallathan goatbenbrancher

[latent anvil]

gota skip exalta fr

but maybe skip ttphogn too need jsescat

[turbid badge]

i just might get eben

i dont have him

who need typhon amiright

[latent anvil]

im missing so many y1 ops

[turbid badge]

wtf

[latent anvil]

blaze ange rosa aak

[turbid badge]

wgz whae

oh getting angelinas gonna be rough

[latent anvil]

cant whale like you teta pro

[turbid badge]

yellow cery

[latent anvil]

broke on thse one

[turbid badge]

wgz u rich?

[full finch]

typhon ranged unit
automatically bad

[turbid badge]

on certs

[full finch]

[latent anvil]

super broke on cert

-40k green cert last month

[turbid badge]

wtf did u buy the orundums

💀

[latent anvil]

for pallas cert

💀

forbidn technique to get pallas

[turbid badge]

i didnt wanna get pallas cuz im m too much guards rn

(not raised)

thinking of getting justyna

[latent anvil]

i need 400 rocks help

[turbid badge]

rip events on

[latent anvil]

i just farm rock on exalt then

[latent anvil]

xolluistrea senpai you play melee kngihts ?

[turbid badge]

oh crapi need that fox thorn vendetta girl

noo she on the hoedorodo bann

[latent anvil]

howder no way im pulling that

[full finch]

ground units are just inherently superior

[latent anvil]

[full finch]

perks of being located in the way of enemies

[turbid badge]

:dumb:GGCat:

[latent anvil]

peanc almost close to almost being e2 who after that one

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how rich

whats left

[latent anvil]

ok what next

[pallid veldt]

Prob like carne bc carne is good

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wtf neglect

[pallid veldt]

👍

[latent anvil]

cnarn mod2 gona save her

right?

[pallid veldt]

Ya

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obv

[latent anvil]

oh okay yea i do her son then

[full finch]

surely

[latent anvil]

soon

[pallid veldt]

👍👍

[full finch]

what's with that graveyard of E2 lv1s

[latent anvil]

i fixed it from long time ago

its very good comarpe to before

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[full finch]

I have only 1 E2 lv1

(it's shamare)

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it used to be this