strategy

[pearl breach]

I prefer facing bottom though (with bottom gravity obv). Since you can put ptilo on the top left corner facing down. And NG on the bottom left corner facing down too.

Since NG area cover her backside. So your operator still got healed.

[cyan gorge]

I only swapped gravity to help Tex/Yato/Surt kill rings and boss faster

[pearl breach]

The boss is nothing without a balls. Even texas S3 can deal around 20% of her HP in one cycle. Moreover with her S2.

[balmy jolt]

Anyone know what the stat increases on CW-S-4 hard are?

[tidal sedge]

Normally cm is just +20% iirc

[pearl breach]

https://aceship.github.io/AN-EN-Tags/akenemy.html

The boss stat. CMIIW

If you add 20%. She got around 42k HP, 720 Deff, 60 Res.

[lapis hornet]

man I'm so used to afk I go afk before even deploying my units

this game hard wdf

[pearl breach]

Its good. TBH.
I hate using mylnar S3 and the stage somehow is cleared. No challenge at all.

[turbid badge]

32%

hp

and atk

[balmy jolt]

ty

[turbid badge]

balls

[latent anvil]

But how op is eyjafykqmakala

[full finch]

you mean hvit aska?

[latent anvil]

No the caster one

[full finch]

eyjafjalla

actually her skill has really impressive damage output

[tidal sedge]

She seems to have pretty nuts healing output ye

If this what a six star wandering does, I wonder what the six star chain medic will do

[full finch]

hvit aska is an extreme good medic tbh

[tidal sedge]

Unless the six star chain medic is a welfare, then I'd have low hopes

[full finch]

as far as I can see, hvit aska directly replaces all medics without strong utility like NG, warf, etc.

[tidal sedge]

I haven't run her numbers yet past some napkin math

[full finch]

her consistent healing with S1 is top tier per target

with 2 targets

[tidal sedge]

Her s1 is HG pushing the envelope as a consistent healing piece yet again which is interesting

[full finch]

and S3 has a massive max HP buff

in addition to strong global range healing

all of that ignoring the fact that elemental damage just doesn't exist anymore in her presence

[tidal sedge]

We've gone from Shining s2 pre-mod > Mulberry s1 > Whisperain s2 > Lumen s3 > Shining s2 post-mod > Eyja s1

[patent chasm]

Is Kafka and Elysium good?

[full finch]

yes

but leave kafka at E0 for cheaper deployment cost

[tidal sedge]

I guess Quercus s1 fits in that line somewhere too

[patent chasm]

K

[full finch]

postmod quercus also has top tier healing after including shelter

[patent chasm]

Do I reroll I got thorns

[full finch]

thorns is fine

just know that he won't be very impressive until E2

[latent anvil]

Game doesn't need rerolling but mountain is very good for beginner

[tidal sedge]

It's interesting to see HG push the envelope on this again and again.

[full finch]

healing is based

dps is cringe

[patent chasm]

Is there a big difference between thorns and mountain, I've that mountain is better

[full finch]

mounatain has exceptionally better sustain

and hits 2 targets

[tidal sedge]

I think it's moreso each attempt failed to make a meaningful impact in terms of meta or casual investment, so they see that as justification to push it further each time

[full finch]

and then there's reed

[tidal sedge]

Like I remember some small amount of hype for Mulberry s1, Lumen, and Quercus but only a select number of enthusiasts actually cared

[full finch]

who just outheals everything while dealing a boatload of damage

I hate how reed is an optimal team slot for me since she replaces both a medic and a caster

and if I need more healing
there's saria

[tidal sedge]

Ye I use saria, reed, skalter, kal, waaay more often then I will bring actual medic

[turbid badge]

ew

muls1

[full finch]

mulberry S1 was actually a good healing skill

but like

hvit aska

[turbid badge]

i just mul s2

[patent chasm]

So should I reroll or

Continue

@full finch

[full finch]

continue

[latent anvil]

Reroll not really that important in this game

[turbid badge]

what banners are even up

reroling for weedy or flametail

lmao arent they both on stansrd

the noobie

banner

[patent chasm]

Ye

[turbid badge]

you can reroll for mountain igg

If u really want a smooth start

but doesnt really matter too much

[patent chasm]

Do I roll on that banner

35% off

Still

[latent anvil]

beginner one? you should eventualyl do it yea

[patent chasm]

Ah okay

[latent anvil]

you can leave it for later if you want, but theres no event banner rn so if you wanna pull you can

[patent chasm]

Kk

[tidal sedge]

It was the best consistent raw hps at it's time before Lumen/Quercus, but I don't think the comparison took into account Shining s2 shield or it's def buff

But yeah it's pretty disappointing a fair number of times even to me

[turbid badge]

ah

i never really looked into it

[wary wing]

i mean lurker

healing will always play 3rd string to damage and survivality

in that order

and raw hps is the least important of the factors a medic is expected to bring to the table

its the reason ive been shitting on lumen since forever

and same thing with abjurers mod

on the other hand
wanderers healing power directly relates to their ability to negate stage mechanics
so the douple dip makes their hps matter more than for other medics

[stark bobcat]

CW-5 strategies go

[tidal sedge]

That goes both ways

[wary wing]

so even with hvit aska having a really good s1
the only reason you would realistically bring her is for her s3

[stark bobcat]

I am suffering immensely trough these last 2 days of event

[tidal sedge]

You can also say that wandering medic hps doesnt matter because they only need to heal a little elem dmg, like against nervous impairment weed, or dublin caster burn

[wary wing]

because before caring about consistent healing
you want to prevent one shots
and for that there are no better medics than NG/shining

[tidal sedge]

I don't disagree really, I think the hype around consistent hps pieces has been weird as the times they're good are tactics most folks are not fond of

Consistent hps isnt a meta strategy sure, but it can outright ignore certain enemies/ mechanics which is why its useful. Because alot of people wont care for optimal strat, but ez strat

[cyan gorge]

Abjurers can fulfill that niche as well, don't sleep on sanctuary

[tidal sedge]

I think the hype is because certain folks are chasing the best afk option without looking at what they actually do for them yes

[wary wing]

omg
10% sanctuary being soooo relevant

[cyan gorge]

Quercus isn't the only abjurer

[wary wing]

relevant content will delete you if you are at 30% hp even if 20% sanctuary hits in

unless you are hoshi or smt

and as for silencer
well

[tidal sedge]

To put it another way.

When I got eyjalter I thought I would only use s3, because her normal hps is so high anyway, I would rather have a burst option to help in perilous situations.

Nowadays though, I use s1 alot more, because I realized that for 90% of content, eyjalter s1 IS a burst heal in comparison to other medic. So nobody will die in her range anyway

[wary wing]

just bring NG or shining really

[cyan gorge]

But for players with neither, Silence2 is still a viable option

[wary wing]

90% of content for a 6month+ player can be cleared with whatever squad

so it being the benchmark feels extremely pepega

[tidal sedge]

.

Yeah its a "comfort" thing, but I don't think such things are like actually good as they make already winnable situations less effort. Rather than make a difficult situation beatable

To put it another way, there is little reason for me to use eyjalter s3, if I can just use s1 and nobody will die anyway

Its only If I need global range or need to optimize for truly hard content. Which would want "meta" as my earlier point

[wary wing]

the point is
using an easy > easier situation to judge how a skill performs feels ???
a skill//op becomes relevant when they perform a strong role in hard content

no one cares about eyja solo healing 5-10

[tidal sedge]

Tbf, that logic applies to a lot of the classic laneholders too.

I agree somewhat. But how impactful an op can be in a non CC or specifically hard stage is also relavent

And its not a situation like mud s3 for example, because its not just about effort

At least until -90% auto sp reduction situations where Thorns and Hellagur actually see some use due to offensive recovery

[turbid badge]

why havent they renamed it

[cyan gorge]

what

[patent chasm]

@tidal sedge what should I know as a beginner

@turbid badge

[turbid badge]

its basically shelter with a fancy font no?

[turbid badge]

check pins in help, mechanic sheet can help and theres beginner guides

raise base slaves,

kroos

[patent chasm]

Is chiave good

[turbid badge]

whats ur other options

[patent chasm]

Idk but I pulled him

[turbid badge]

honestly sticking with fang should be gine

fine*

[patent chasm]

Ah okay

Who should I pick for 5 star selector?

[turbid badge]

chiave’s not like an amazing vanguard unless you really want to invest in him its better just using your lower rarity

note that its way cheaper to use 3 -4 than 5-6

[turbid badge]

roster?

youd usually always take lappland

especially with the fact SN is coming

[patent chasm]

Wait

[turbid badge]

the other selector really depends

[tidal sedge]

It is okie, SN is free now cuz

[pearl breach]

If you compare with todays rooster. He is nothing, really.
You should stick with 3★ vanguard or getting a flag bearer.

Flag Bearer generates enough dp even for the latest event.

[tidal sedge]

4* vgs are fine too, vigna and courier are pretty neat

[patent chasm]

Oh okay

[pearl breach]

Cant go wrong with vigna.

[tidal sedge]

Oh he got ely

[pearl breach]

Bro you got ely

[tidal sedge]

🏁

[patent chasm]

?

[tidal sedge]

Elysium

[patent chasm]

He is good?

[tidal sedge]

Used often in late game too

[patent chasm]

So who should be my 5 star selector

[tidal sedge]

Lapp

[patent chasm]

Okay

[pearl breach]

Or you could wait for a bit. And decide later on as the game progress.

[patent chasm]

Sure

Do I save my summons

[tidal sedge]

I would reccomend saving for JO10 or exalter banner who both should be within a month according to cn schedule. Although schedule can change beware

[pearl breach]

This is actually a good pull.
You got a late game ops, thorns.
Arts guard, two healers with different class not to mention a cc with kafka and dp gen, ely.

I say, continue to raise this account.

[patent chasm]

Okay

[turbid badge]

lapp and liskarm

[pearl breach]

You can build them evenly. Though you should prioritize dps.

[turbid badge]

prio kroos

and base slaves

[pearl breach]

He didnt have kroos lol. Am i blind?

[patent chasm]

Does pitty carry over to the next banner

[pearl breach]

But he will get it eventually. Like soon.

[pearl breach]

I wish, lol.

But it doesnt

[turbid badge]

Yes

pity does

the points dont

pity only carries over on standard banners

[pearl breach]

Really?

[patent chasm]

Oh

[turbid badge]

ofc..

only the points dont

the gurantee 6 star points on a 6* solo rateup

standard banners like STANDARD AND JO

[pearl breach]

Its hard to recommend a newbie to pull on standard banner, as you will get the operator eventually.

So, I cant talk much about this.

[patent chasm]

Is it recommended to get 100 pulls before pulling

[pearl breach]

Yes. Esp when you pull for the new upcoming ops.

[latent anvil]

idk about 100 but saving is good sure

[patent chasm]

Okay

[pearl breach]

Just want to let you know that the standard banner exist on the new upcoming ops banner.

For example:
On typhon banner. The soft pity is *50 pulls. And you havent got any 6★ ops so far. Then your pulls of getting the 6★ is increase by each pulls.

Also, its not guarantee 100% to get the typhon. There is a slight chance you may got an off banner 6★. Just like the one from standard banner.

[turbid badge]

yea

[pearl breach]

That why I said it before. It was not really a worth of pull on standard banner. Esp the blue cert banner.

Sooner or later, you will get them eventually.

Also, dont waste your yellow certificate for buying useless thing.

I only did it for hh cert or some valuable 6★ ops like Surtr.

[vocal cave]

anyone have a weedy s2 🙏

[eager gate]

well, I do if you still need it

[vocal cave]

yes

[eager gate]

a min, launching the thing

Io#4138

[vocal cave]

friended

[eager gate]

done

[vocal cave]

tyy

[turbid badge]

lo

[vocal leaf]

practicing for sn
call an ambulance for penance 🚑

[tidal sedge]

For s-1 stages you should be able to deny brand to at least 1 section

But Penance worked anyways ig

[vocal leaf]

yeah but since i dont use melee units in the top i didn’t care, guess suzu did too much damage to the brandguider before they start moving

and gnosis is there for cc

[turbid badge]

wheres ur hoshigama

[vocal leaf]

dont have her

[eager gate]

nah thats i
i oh

[turbid badge]

woops

Io

[patent chasm]

what type of unit do i recruit

[eager gate]

the one you want

remember that 7:40 is a breakpoint that removes 2* and to 9 guaranteed 4* and above

Use tag calcs before you remember what to look for

[somber stone]

9:00 guarantees 3 star

[spark sinew]

so does 7:40, 3* or above

[tidal sedge]

I do 9 cuz I run out of permits anyway

[high warren]

How to deal with this rat king, mf one shots my units sometime ☠️

I used Chen alter s3 on him but he barely lost HP when has shield 😭

[eager gate]

Point Schwarz in his general direction

alternatively point Surt in his general direction

[high warren]

Oh yeah

[deft badger]

which map is that even i don't remember it

[vernal lion]

CB-10

[deft badger]

btw rat drop surtr or texas in to his face

texas s2

[turbid badge]

ARTS

[high warren]

She destroyed it 🔥

Surtr cook

[spark sinew]

his description is giga trash (as per usual)

he basically has arts shield, that absorbs X damage
while the shield is active, he has absolutely insane bonus to his defense (in IS3 it's 3k)

is3 stats, for reference
not sure if they're the same on the event

if you can't just burst him, baiting his tornado is very important

[somber stone]

It’s funny to let hellagur slowly chip him down in is2

[turbid badge]

wtf

immune to freeze

i’m

[spark sinew]

basically everything stun immune is freeze immune as well, yeah

[turbid badge]

oh is that how its coded

[spark sinew]

i believe so, just copied it when freeze was added

[turbid badge]

[spark sinew]

sure too bad that gnosis can't freeze everything virtuosa cough cough

[turbid badge]

virtuosa spits her black damage everywhere

what happens if virtuosa and stainless???

wtf

actually curious

[spark sinew]

dot on s3 you mean?

[turbid badge]

yea

so its just

[spark sinew]

the dot is not really intensive

[turbid badge]

oh

is there a bar

[spark sinew]

it just deals a ton (and no resistance)

[turbid badge]

that pops up

for the turret lol

[spark sinew]

oh, not sure actually, i didn't try it on turrets specifically

[turbid badge]

[sharp swallow]

How do you deal with bullies in Lungmen commercial annihilation? Or even, how do you deal with Bullied in general? Do you just kill them?

[turbid badge]

Mlynar can deal woth the last wave of bullies pretty well

judt kill them , you could block a few

[cyan gorge]

3 block or slow + caster

[turbid badge]

yeah

last wave spills out a bunch

so ideally youd wave to save your wave clearing skills for tht

[crisp bolt]

Fiammetta gaming

[sharp swallow]

If I use 3 block, the peons just walk through

[crisp bolt]

I'm being serious that's how I dealt with them

I used fiammetta s3

[somber stone]

4 block

[turbid badge]

team?

[cyan gorge]

You need multiple blockers or multiple wave clearers to deal with those extra mobs

[turbid badge]

ok wtf

no medic?

well

angelina and blem

shud be fine sure

[cyan gorge]

GG s2 and Ange can easily clear bullies, no?

[sharp swallow]

Angelina has passive heal

[turbid badge]

have mudrock?

or nah

[sharp swallow]

I don’t

[turbid badge]

no borrowing roghr?

[sharp swallow]

I have a bad habit of forgetting S2 exists

[cyan gorge]

What I want to know is how you kill rat king, is it just NTRK s3?

[crisp bolt]

Mountain can tank the drones

[turbid badge]

use mountain for right h

smh

[sharp swallow]

I haven’t even gotten past bullies running in circles

[crisp bolt]

Blaze for right

[cyan gorge]

The rat king will kill your ops later if only Ange healing

[turbid badge]

i see blemi s1

[sharp swallow]

It’s hard to really fit a medic in with lack of deploy spots even after unlocking all 6

[crisp bolt]

That's not enough for multihit

[cyan gorge]

You can easily drop 3 of those ops

[crisp bolt]

Do you even need sail s3?

[cyan gorge]

You don't need Bag, SA, or Irene with everything else there

[sharp swallow]

If it’s about slows and damage, would Suzu also fit?

[turbid badge]

yes

[crisp bolt]

[cyan gorge]

Suzu would do better than Ange

[sharp swallow]

Suzu S2 any good?

[turbid badge]

do u have trouble holding the far left

[tidal sedge]

Weedy is so stupid here lmao

[turbid badge]

is it m1?

[cyan gorge]

if not m1, just use s3

[sharp swallow]

Only e2

[sharp swallow]

Alr

[tidal sedge]

ENFORCER <333

[turbid badge]

attack two enemies and there both the drones

[sharp swallow]

Also, most people tend to dislike Nian S3, but I wasn’t sure if it’d work because if I get hoshi by her, I could get a 5 block

Should I just try s2 or s3

[cyan gorge]

why 5 block when you can just add more dps

[crisp bolt]

It'd be better to delete the enemies than try to block them

[sharp swallow]

That makes sense actually lol

[cyan gorge]

If you want, you can borrow Fiammetta s3 and ignore almost every drone and all of left lane

also damages passing bullies

[sharp swallow]

Would Dorthy S2 work? She seems to have a good bind

[cyan gorge]

It would but you still need a means of killing them

s3 would do more damage

[sharp swallow]

I don’t have e2 yet

[cyan gorge]

then not worth

[sharp swallow]

Alr

[turbid badge]

uhh Probably suzus slow would be more effective

if u have an issue you can always borrow fia/mlynar/mudrock

[spark sinew]

just use s1 sail
or cut bag and get another flag/afk vang skill

[fluid fulcrum]

[harsh obsidian]

anyone have weedy s2m3 to add?

[opal kiln]

add Clever#7244

[harsh obsidian]

tysm

[tidal sedge]

So...
Ive been trying CW-S-4 Normal
Ive gotten to a point where boss is pinned in a corner. Im wondering what my placement should be for phase 2

[latent monolith]

I heard ther's a weedy mlynar kal cheese, what is it about?

[pearl breach]

Weedy S2 + healers can solo left side. Mylnar for range gundam. Kals S3 place on right side? Mons as a pseudo frd for melee gundam on the center (also balls if you manage to do that).

Also, perhaps you can cheese one or two melee gundam. So they are inside Mylnar attack range.

[vernal lion]

honestly tho, having 2 pushers to hold 2 lanes makes thing stage look like a joke

[tidal sedge]

Pretty much. -5 weight is busted

[pearl breach]

Can we push it even further with angelina??

[tidal sedge]

If you wanted to. But perma-stall is already possible without her

But it's worth noting that shifting distance has a cap.

[tropic valve]

jesselton weedy ptsd

[pearl breach]

Just want to mess around with mob pathfinder.

[tropic valve]

ah, Weedy S3 alone is enough to push Pathshaper into a hole

[cosmic thicket]

does nothing in the context of LT stages bc final weight diff is max 3 (which pretty much every shift force can exceed for that calculation)

[pearl breach]

This is what I didn't know.
Guess we are back to two pusher strat then.

[deep drum]

y'all how many seconds/cooldown does kristen ball lock ability have?

[cyan gorge]

like 30 second interval

starting from the farthest from her

[patent chasm]

Who

[zealous sleet]

Silence if you don't have her

[halcyon adder]

This took two hours. Probably becuz I am dumb

[fluid fulcrum]

Wait what how

[tidal sedge]

a cool little bug? or something happens when you block those robots halfway off the tile where it hits the ball sometimes instead of holding it in place

and the enemys thjink its safe to walk through until they get stunlocked into oblivion

[tidal sedge]

First use is 10 seconds after she first appears. Every 30 seconds every use thereafter.

[deft badger]

i regret asking in help actually...
how good is s2 mumu? when it comes tanking 5% hp per sec and 25% dmg reduction

btw how much stats are transferred anyway from the op she copies?

[spark sinew]

they answered you right tbh

s3 is just better skill

[deft badger]

they called it trash... 😄

and it can't be that trash when that thing has 25% dmg reduction

[tidal sedge]

her s2 isn't actually that bad! esp if ur copying a defender or smth

[spark sinew]

i think if you really wanted you can use it on rangeds if you don't have 4 tiles for copies

[tidal sedge]

it can tank heavy hits and its the only skill that heals her clone

[deft badger]

that was my taught

[spark sinew]

i never saw it being used on melees

[deft badger]

s2 seems more like use on defender s3 ranged/melee higher benefits for ranged

[spark sinew]

help is a bit allergic to melee mumu because it sucks

[tidal sedge]

😭

the stunlock is no joke tbh

[spark sinew]

general consensus was to just not bother with her if you don't have good ranged

[deft badger]

how much stats does the clone copy?

[tidal sedge]

uhh I forget tbh

[spark sinew]

90% at e2

ranged bind is also broken in comparison to what melee gets

lol

[tidal sedge]

S3 is better even on melee clones

[spark sinew]

mumu s2 is literally only used in e1 1 clears or some vanguard only, abusing ines

case in point about s2 https://en.arkrec.com/operator/Muelsyse2

[deft badger]

well its clear that s3 is the better skill, but s2 with a 25% dmg reduction and 5% hp regen isn't a joke considering u eat a defender xD

i would even dare to imagine she would be able to tank SK on hell with her s2 and a good defender

[tidal sedge]

The stun on s3 is basically 100% damage reduction except vs stun immune enemies

and the clone has a built in healing function if there's a 25 second lull to exploit by manually forcing it into dormant state

[spark sinew]

tanking anything (barely tanking anything) is not quite a feat anymore

[spark sinew]

also yeah, this is very big
you just retreat the clone during downtime

[tidal sedge]

Or even using its copy skill again which also heals it, but will reset atk/def stacks if you use this method

[pearl breach]

Mumu have awesome kit and fun to be playing with.

[deft badger]

wanna try it later, if i find someone with s2m3 mumu..
on H11-4 if she can hold SK in place 🙂

[spark sinew]

it's not hard to find someone with s2m3

[tidal sedge]

I only have her s3m3 sadly 😭

[spark sinew]

people make bad decisions all the time

i'm sure there's someone with m9 hool as well

[tidal sedge]

💀

[spark sinew]

couldn't resist, sorry

[tidal sedge]

So s2 is only better vs stun immune enemies, or if it is getting steadily worn down there's no 25 second lull and you're unwilling to make such a lull for it and can't use it's copy skill. That's a rather specific array of circumstances

[deft badger]

well that will decide if she gets a e2... 😄
then she can have her s2m3 and s3m3

[spark sinew]

not to mention if s2 is somehow better because of the above, you would just cut mumu

unless it's something like mumu tower

[deft badger]

i would like to have one more op that can take stupid amounts of dmg

my question wasn't is her s2 better then s3

it was how does it perform if i put it to use in a specific situation

[tidal sedge]

Or just sl7 suffices for such circumstances probably

[deft badger]

like SK which i wasn't able to tank with any op then fishgirls because of 30% dmg reduction

[spark sinew]

i still have no idea who SK is

[spark sinew]

uhhh...

no way mumu tanks it

[glass monolith]

#strategy message

[deft badger]

stainless

[spark sinew]

now do it on cm

[glass monolith]

If it works it works

[spark sinew]

how much was shelter again?

[deft badger]

25

[spark sinew]

is her shelter the biggest?

[deft badger]

m3

[spark sinew]

or 6* abjurer gives more

[glass monolith]

Biggest shelter in game is S2 of Silecne alter, followed by S2 Penance and S2 Wind Chimes i think

[deft badger]

i expect if i eat a tank, that has high def base stat it is going to survive his atk 😄

[spark sinew]

forgot that s2 penance even had shelter

[tidal sedge]

Does the damage reduction from 2 Stainless turrets stack

[glass monolith]

Yes, 20% physical DR stack multiplicity with everything

[tidal sedge]

Well, Penance wins regardless of that. But still.

I meant can I put 2 Stainless turrets on the same op for effective 36% phys DR

[glass monolith]

#strategy message me back in 11-20 checking stacking of stuff

[spark sinew]

did you already do Noir with sp batteries

[tidal sedge]

Oh. Nice. Thanks

[spark sinew]

that you press s2 every time during Mecha skill

[tidal sedge]

So Turret stacks with other DR sources but not itself

[glass monolith]

What do you mean not itself, 2 turrets stack to 36%

Which stacks with Shelter and all that shit stacks with Gladiia

[tidal sedge]

Oh. I read it poorly

[glass monolith]

No i was messing around with formula so i had second turret multiplication at end

[deft badger]

which of the skills give even the buff? is it s2? i just know he can thats why i did say stainess when i saw the turret next to the op u used to eat hits from SK

[glass monolith]

Because i forgot that you need to count DEF first, because Damage reduction reduced damage taken not damage of ATK

[tidal sedge]

I thought the 0.8 under Stainless s3 2 meant it wasn't stacking, should've looked more thoroughly

[tidal sedge]

Stainless s3 turrets have a skill that grants 20% phys DR to the op behind them

[deft badger]

where the hell can i read this

[tidal sedge]

Nvm, it's a talent

[tropic valve]

Lin

she takes 0 damage

[spark sinew]

stainless is very janky in descriptions

you also need to click turrets to know that they're healed by arificers

nowhere else does it state that (or you can read PRTS)

[deft badger]

that's why i am confused since i have read his skills several times by now, the DR part i only know because Minus told me like 2 months ago

but i still haven't seen the part where its written but now i saw it ty @tidal sedge

[spark sinew]

honestly never used it for DR before

[deft badger]

still have to try the part with mumu, just because i don't wanna have 2 ops deployed to do one thing if she would be able to do

[glass monolith]

It would be funny if they released Stainless before the UI update which allowed us to read talents mid combat

[deft badger]

at this point just looking for a excuse to e2 her and master her s2 and s3 xD

[spark sinew]

tbf it's so obscured

i think a lot of people just never found that part about turrets' giving DR

or why stainless heals them

[deft badger]

healing part isn't hard to find out... when i saw the turret losing hp, i did try to place it next to him and he was healing it
DR part i would never known if Munis didn't tell me... anyway going to look for a s2m3 mumu xD

[spark sinew]

healing is not hard to see, but to understand why it happens?
It's also not just stainless that can heal them

it's not posted anywhere
it's just way too obscure for no reason

[tidal sedge]

Yeah it's weird the skill description doesn't at least note it has a special trait and talent

[deft badger]

went to gamepress and fandom not even there

not even at this part 😄

[spark sinew]

exactly

PRTS does have it though

[tidal sedge]

PRTS is where I learned of it too

[deft badger]

whats prts?

[tidal sedge]

A arknights website with info , like game press or wiki.gg

[deft badger]

can i get the link 😄

[tidal sedge]

Alr one sec lemme go copy it!

https://m.prts.wiki/w/首页

It seems the site is not in English thk

Tho*

[deft badger]

its fine, ty

[peak cloak]

Premium Rhodes-island's Telephone Services.

[deft badger]

how do i even use her dude hahahaha

mumu

do i place that blob then the op on the blob? or do i have to use the skill first since i failed right now did rr the stage 😄

[tidal sedge]

You use the skill first

[deft badger]

so skill then blob then place the op on the blob?

the blob can only be healed by mumu?

or i guess passive like skalter

[spark sinew]

just kill it

100% health back

[somber falcon]

Who do you have?

[deft badger]

i think that i am doing something wrong lol

[tidal sedge]

Using retreat button on a tactician summon will force it into dormant state

Aka be 0 block and invulnerable until revival period passes

[deft badger]

i don't see it getting healed

hmm

or prob there is just to much dmg inc

lvl7 heals only 3%

https://youtu.be/cuA3MW4t6FA

should prob add perfumer

it keeps going down by the dot 😄

[void river]

Does anybody have strong Eja with modules?

[deft badger]

me

depedns which skill u need 😄

[void river]

s3m3

but i'm trying rn with module 1

[deft badger]

for cw-s-4?

[void river]

yeah

[deft badger]

show me the rest of the ops u have

if u want ofc

did use her like this btw, for bot stars, cars and top stars

[void river]

I using Ecko low star guide

[deft badger]

do u have mlynar surtr? 🙂

mlynar surtr weedy

those 3 actually u can skip the rest

[void river]

surtr and weedy. I fucked up after 1st phase yesterday

[deft badger]

then borrow a mlynar get 2 tanks and 2 healer in the team

[void river]

idk, later maybe

[deft badger]

@glass monolith do u know what i am doing wrong with that mumu thing? 😄

i think its not healing at all btw

[void river]

I like guides

[glass monolith]

I don't even know WHAT are you doing with Mumu

[vernal lion]

[deft badger]

https://youtu.be/cuA3MW4t6FA

i don't see it gain hp

just lose...

i guess its me doing something wrong

[void river]

drin water and mumu be happy

[glass monolith]

Gain HP of what? Liskarm is not AH and Mumu clone is unhealable

[deft badger]

it should gain 3% hp per sec

its on s2

but i don't see it gain any hp at all

[vernal lion]

read skill description again bruh

[glass monolith]

It is OFF s2

[deft badger]

w8 what does that mean

i have to activate it?

isn't it passive

[vernal lion]

YES LOL

[glass monolith]

Why else you think it is 15 seconds duration skill

[vernal lion]

wtf are you cooking

[deft badger]

i wanna see if that stupid thing can take SK hits xD

the big one

[vernal lion]

if you want it heal without skill, it should be passive skill and infinite duration tho

[deft badger]

so it heals just when the skill active -.-

[vernal lion]

does Mountain s2 heal without skill activation?

[deft badger]

but his healing doesn't stop..

😄

[glass monolith]

Use Silverash S2

[deft badger]

i thought its passive the healing and DR

[glass monolith]

Get auto activation curse in IS and it will stop

[vernal lion]

or at least, you know Mr. Nothing s1 has clearly description about that

it has both Active Effect and Passive Effect

[deft badger]

well f- it then, if the clone only gets healing for 15sec at best not even worth it to e2 her in my case

[void river]

[spark sinew]

lmao

[void river]

now I need stronger Eja

[glass monolith]

Now CM

[void river]

I SAID I NEED EJA

[vernal lion]

you only need GG

[void river]

omg

this comunity

[vernal lion]

#strategy message

[void river]

sry I use Ecko strategy

[vernal lion]

low end or high end?

[void river]

low

[vernal lion]

I believe it's Mlynar

[glass monolith]

This can be used for advertisement of cat food

[void river]

cope

[vernal lion]

Kroos + Click for ball

Shaw to hold left lane

[void river]

so

[vernal lion]

and he uses frd to control ball

[void river]

I just need Strong EJA

[vernal lion]

it's your issue

[void river]

ty

not expect anything from u anyway xdd

[spark sinew]

i have maxed one at p4

also i backread eyja s2m3 s3 sl7 is giga cursed

[glass monolith]

Man this arknights game looks fun

[vernal lion]

it's true tho

[tropic valve]

yeah arknights is a spin-off mode in the game Integrated Strategies

would recommend

[vernal lion]

it should be

[deft badger]

i am not satisfied

playing since a year now, still the best event i did have was SN

ahh and chong event was kinder nice as well

bossfight was fun

[vernal lion]

I actually like Twilight of Wolumonde

it was very good about hard enemies and the strategy you use

[deft badger]

i didn't play that one

[vernal lion]

have you even unlocked it?

[deft badger]

side story?

[vernal lion]

yes

[deft badger]

i did unlock them all

[vernal lion]

so wdym you didn't play

[deft badger]

forgot about it 😄

[vernal lion]

lmao

[deft badger]

but i mean i wasn't in the game at that time

ah and there is this thing...

[vernal lion]

it's easy

[deft badger]

TW last ex stage is easy btw... probably the reason i don't remember it

NL was hard for me..

[spark sinew]

tw is older event

with new ops it's roflstomp yeah

[deft badger]

did use eyja s3 ...

[glass monolith]

Mudrock kicked my ass hard in TW

[deft badger]

but i get ur point, i guess that's the reason SN was fun for me
did have just 4 e2s to work with

did they mention record restoration in the notifications? when it comes to SN

saw a mod saying 2 months ago gladiia should get her records restored on SN rerun launch

[spark sinew]

en patchnotes usually suck, so gotta check jp ones

[glass monolith]

SN boss is sleepable, this rerun will be so free

[spark sinew]

sleep addiction

[strange fable]

i thought under tides record restore was packed with exec alter event?

[glass monolith]

Not my fault Ling banner gave me max pot Blacknight on who i slept till recently

[deft badger]

we are not that far away from exe alter anyway

SN 10 days pinchout 10 days

[spark sinew]

oh we might be

[deft badger]

and then exe

[spark sinew]

they can easily delay him

[glass monolith]

SLEEP THOSE F- CIVILIANS FROM HOLING THEMSELVES

[spark sinew]

very very easily

[strange fable]

watch HG give exec alter the dorothy effect

[glass monolith]

At least it doesn't have Sniper modules and being delayed AFTER Drone boss

[deft badger]

delay... they could but it will not make any sense or for a week

[spark sinew]

wouldn't mind tbh
using him without module would be...idk

[strange fable]

actually thinking abt it

[deft badger]

people have been expecting eyja in Jan we could be happy to get her in Feb xD

[strange fable]

its more likely typhon delay if they want to package her w/ is4 release

[spark sinew]

eyja won't be shifted

although... was it last year that our anni banner wasn't technically limited?

[deft badger]

she is already moved just because mumu launched in Nov, i don't know how they even came up with Jan i meant she is going to be anyway late Feb or early Mar

[river atlas]

Because january is global anniversary…?

[deft badger]

still 3 months between limited banners?

isn't Jan

[spark sinew]

idt 3 months is a rule

[plucky flint]

All anniv banner was limited

[deft badger]

there are 7 events in between eyja

[spark sinew]

on cn

[deft badger]

if they even plan to do it the same

[spark sinew]

as we said, they will just delay some events.

[deft badger]

i still don't get that, u follow a order then delay something to launch something else

[spark sinew]

you should've remembered dorothy delay, same thing can happen with any banner basically

[deft badger]

in the end u mess it all up

😄

[spark sinew]

some event dates are set in stone, because they want anni to be limited banner for example

everything else is forced to revolve around that

[vernal lion]

Dorothy event was really messed up

[deft badger]

when is anni? date

[spark sinew]

mid jan

that's why we also have nonstop events right now
they are trying to cram stuff in

[deft badger]

i think its ok then, if its mid Jan kinder 10 weeks

from mumu to eyja

i would like more double events running, event + rerun then give some free weeks

[spark sinew]

at the same time?

idk personally i like a break in between
do your anni, do your chip farm/whatever

[deft badger]

this way we ain't getting a break

i don't mind it anyway

farming events is more efficent

[spark sinew]

events will all come, eventually
thankfully ak global doesn't skip events outright

[river atlas]

I farm red certs instead as soon as i empty the event shop

[spark sinew]

not getting downtime to do anni/modules and chips cripples the overall efficiency though

you can prefarm chips i suppose

[glass monolith]

One day i will be among cool guys who emptied red cert shop

[spark sinew]

be among the cool guys who emptied the yellow cert shop

[plucky flint]

Be the madman who reached t3 green cert shop

[glass monolith]

I prefer paying rent and have food instead

[river atlas]

Green cert has a t3?

[plucky flint]

Yes

[spark sinew]

t3 green cert should he relatively easy
how much was it for 2 tiers?

[river atlas]

Whats even in it

[plucky flint]

It's easy, but the question is would you do it?

[plucky flint]

Unlimited orundum and lmd

[spark sinew]

I'm hoarding to do it eventually, yeah

although i think i should buy the furniture parts in t1 to access t2 permits
was too lazy to do the math if that's worth it

[wicked viper]

they mathed it ya

wait this one is outdated, no salt so i think it's 450 more green certs

[spark sinew]

to do the math if furn parts + 900? for two permits is more value than just saving those for orundrum *

oh, my base is red as always

i have...a bit of certs

@jovial nest was it you who also wanted to cash out the t3 green cert shop?

[fringe jackal]

wtf

[spark sinew]

very good question though, should a person who doesn't need mats still go to T2 for HH+recruit permits?

[plucky flint]

I always do, yes

[spark sinew]

i think all the spreadsheets didn't like to buy recruit permits

and i never understood the math behind it, honestly

[plucky flint]

I always buy t2 recruit permits since it gives me gold cert

Even if I didn't break even in green cert, I still get gold cert from it

[deft badger]

😭

i don't even get to stack them up...

[spark sinew]

anyone knows the price of orundrum in tier3?

[deft badger]

u can see it

considered how much it costs to clear all of the mats in the shop 35k is nothing..

[plucky flint]

Basically, 10k green cert is 10 pulls

[vernal lion]

this is basically made you learn how to manage green cert well in every month

[deft badger]

at a point i did have 20k+

i was buying mats just getting t1-2 shop is over 10k

so it went really fast from 20k to 0 😄

[deft badger]

as far i remember t2 shop is 8500

[vernal lion]

3 weeks have been paid off

[deft badger]

or 9k don't remember anymore...

and how do u want me to menage them my only cert income in the past months was recruit

[vernal lion]

joke aside, this was my TW-EX-8 auto lol

[deft badger]

haha nice 😄

[vernal lion]

some op I didn't even E2 them through 3 years

[deft badger]

the earliest auto i can find is this one...

that was like 1 week in the game

i think only surtr was e2 at the time 😄

[vernal lion]

I found it unfair when TW-MO-1 only cost 1 plan to try,
while DM-MO-1 is 3 plans bruh

[deft badger]

going to try those maps

anything that can carry ? 😄

btw does it have like 200 spawns?>

[somber falcon]

Basic HG arbitration

[deft badger]

yes it does... -.-

[spark sinew]

usual anni suspects
for your acc, just get something with inf duration

[deft badger]

do golems spawn?

[vernal lion]

golem in TW? yes it will

[deft badger]

where do they spwan wanna know where to place spalter

nvm found them

[spark sinew]

wait why do you use practice plans

do annis cost sanity?

usual trick of force quiting doesn't work?

[peak cloak]

this isnt annihilation.

[deft badger]

because i expected that i am going to fail

didn't even look if they use some

😄

[peak cloak]

there are some stages have large amounts of mob like in Darknight memoir, i think people call it as "mini annihilations"

[spark sinew]

huh it costs 25

[deft badger]

well now do it again...

[spark sinew]

probably mistremembering

damn, the memories

when chen s2 was viable

[tidal sedge]

Should I M3 Gnosis S2 too? Or just S3 is fine.

[vernal lion]

both

[spark sinew]

nowadays i'd say s3 is fine

idr the last time i used s2

[vernal lion]

I mean it's good for Aurora s2 too

[spark sinew]

aurora who

[tidal sedge]

Who's Aurora

[tidal sedge]

Wait how's bro dead already

[vernal lion]

yep, that's Gnosis s2 and Aurora s2

[spark sinew]

can't you do the same with s3

[vernal lion]

no

Gnosis s3 is short time

[spark sinew]

ok i don't even want to try
i won't ever find aurora sup

[tidal sedge]

Like I want to know where are its usage, for stalling?

[vernal lion]

ugh, SN enemies?

[crystal arch]

sixteen seconds of pure bully. cant eat my ops if they are constantly frozen

[spark sinew]

it was hyped for IS back in the day
you could freeze every 6 (ST)/12 (AOE) seconds
but i really don't remember when it was better than s3

[tidal sedge]

Just drop Texalter on them

[spark sinew]

in recent content

[vernal lion]

how about 20 of them, spamming continually

[tidal sedge]

That's trouble.

[vernal lion]

it's trouble for player who doesn't play with mechanism rule

[tidal sedge]

[vernal lion]

tbh I like Break the Ice too

it's a very good event

[deft badger]

what am i missing?

[spark sinew]

the boss is a bit unfair to new players

[deft badger]

tw

[spark sinew]

at least it's not Ya

although both are probably way too big of roadblocks

[tidal sedge]

Challenge mode probably?

[deft badger]

TW-Mo-1 done
ex+cm done
normal stages done

[spark sinew]

did you do secret stages

[deft badger]

yeah 😄

thats what i am missing

hell no bro

😄

[spark sinew]

giga easy

you don't need like half the ops

[deft badger]

half of them i never used in my life

[spark sinew]

it was actually fun to try and trim the operators from it

[deft badger]

hahahaha

youtube time

copy cat

let me lappdumb my self on that but i don't care hahaha

[spark sinew]

nor should you care about what others in gacha server think, lol

but i won't remove it

[deft badger]

phantom looks so cool

[spark sinew]

VAs are also stellar

[spark sinew]

i like en one, guy definitely put a lot of effort

[deft badger]

i didn't even know he can do that

lol

[spark sinew]

oh phantom is locked in kernel 🤔 can always cope for recruit ig

[spark sinew]

you can use traps/mines for that as well
or summons

ig telling you after you cleared everything is a bit late, lol

[deft badger]

i did just the first one

did have to reset because i failed

[spark sinew]

second one is fixed squad as well

[deft badger]

that's the reason i don't even watch guides to stupid to follow them lol

so next that i am missing

that's all

[dense drum]

im doing CW-S-4 CM with afk strats, is there a replacement for weedy?

[deft badger]

afk strat doesn't tell me much personally

[dense drum]

most of the ones on yt rn just use weedy anyways

[deft badger]

e1 s2 weedy works as well

shaw but he can't keep up with cars

[vernal lion]

I like how they give this dude a B RES,
but it's actually SS RES tho

dude is 90 RES

[deft badger]

again such a map that looks hard to menage

they will backstab the s- out of me

[vernal lion]

[deft badger]

who is this?

[vernal lion]

Warden Saria

[deft badger]

ahh ok i can see the shield in her right hand 😄

anything strong spawning on blaze?

or same like on top mountain can hold it

[vernal lion]

weak mob with high def mob

[fierce anchor]

aside from saria and nightingale who else gives group res? 🤔

i want to try something dumb and im already using these two

[vernal lion]

Saria gives RES ?

[fierce anchor]

I thought she did with her s3...

ah no wait she makes enemies take more arts damage woops

💀

maybe the healing is so high that i thought it just gave res

[deft badger]

but how did u do that... i don't have any devices 😄

[vernal lion]

just do Ifrit strat

and deploy someone high res to bait caster explosion

[deft badger]

next

[vernal lion]

gigachad Bloodknight goes straight to the box without a loop

[deft badger]

gigachad died

bro there si more -.-

do u have a pic of that?

😄

[vernal lion]

no

but, watch out for the middle boxes

[deft badger]

are they going to crush them?

[vernal lion]

mid and late time

[deft badger]

is there a boss on the map? 😄

[vernal lion]

no, just assassin spam

[deft badger]

bro that snipers

[tidal sedge]

Oh I used Lee+Lumen on that map iirc to ignore snipers last time it reran

[vocal leaf]

now you can show them the hammer of justice

[spark sinew]

fun map

[deft badger]

the problem was to generate that much dp

to place all till the snipers spawn

so that they focus the last op placed

[spark sinew]

i mean you have mlynar

that specter is a bif iffy, but idr if naginata guy will show up

back in muh days we didn't have all those self sufficient laneholders

[tidal sedge]

Even mlynar might get fkd there

might actually live longer tbh

[spark sinew]

yeah, but he does have taunt, so every bit of setup is gonna be ruined the second you deploy him

[deft badger]

didn't even place mlynar, skadi was taking the shots

bro this thing even has cm...

xD

[high crest]

On ex-8 who's good to borrow guys?

[deft badger]

what do u have...

[high crest]

Who's the general good to borrow I have like kaltsit,mudrock,penance,texalter,ceobe,yato alter,silverash

[deft badger]

i know whats the best for me to borrow xD

lol

but till i know what u plan on using i don't know what to tell u

i would say mlynar anyway

if u don't have weedy take weedy

[high crest]

Ok then👌

[deft badger]

kal weedy texas can do the map

to make it easy i would add 1 healer 1 tank and mlynar

just in case

[spark sinew]

mlynar cost x3 on cm but still very good
ling is ling

bonus points for cm, since 4 block with x3 cost guards/defenders

[deft badger]

i guess now i have to bring hoshi to take the snipers

don't think skadi will be able to eat them like in normal

[spark sinew]

can wait for eyja

she should heal it up

although why are you clearing everything besides the event

[high crest]

Ex-8 complete (not cm)damn hell kaltsit fucking carry me s stages next

[spark sinew]

not gonna do cm first?

[deft badger]

hhahahaha

[full finch]

DEF

[high crest]

Triple times dp cost when my lane holders is penance and mudrock

[deft badger]

well it was fun 😄

[full finch]

[deft badger]

dh-mo-1 i remember that was hard af..

[full finch]

only if you play without bubbles or wandering medics

[remote atlas]

@void river Did you clear?

[glass monolith]

Original NL had no wandering medics, and in CC with NL theme those covid archers stack faster than anything can cleanse (well before Eyjaberry)

[vernal lion]

btw it's funny that the balls didn't explode if Kristen was the last enemy

[glass monolith]

Funny is IS cleaners don't spawn if cringe bar fills from last enemy death

[weak gazelle]

uhhh
is that it? with small change on the team

[vernal lion]

ok I think this is the least of low op you can do

3 op

[lethal dragon]

Yeah as expected 2 op is a thing

[spark sinew]

||you can do 2||

||ling skalter||

oh i was late

was on cm as well

[gray stone]

EX-8 be harder than S-4 fr

S-4 allows you to break all balls without consequences
Meanwhile EX-8 you will be fucked if you kill Kristen too soon or break both left balls

[glass monolith]

Breaking news. Just kill only 3 out of 4 balls

[spark sinew]

i killed kristen and then just bruteforced, holding all 3 lanes

no pusher either

boomer privilege ig

[glass monolith]

Step 1. Kill Krist.
Step 2. Random bullshit go

[deft badger]

ex-8 feels harder then s-4

anyway this thing rocks...

[glass monolith]

8 random t3 materials which is biased toward shit you don't need

[cosmic thicket]

I don't need them now but I'll need them later

[glass monolith]

I'm 90% sure those 60 crystalline components i own is enough for my goal of building every existing character and their module... No srly where the F do i spend those?

[cyan gorge]

It only gave me cutting fluid and polyester

[spark sinew]

i farmed/ bought crystals a bit

i think i'm still running out

a lot of new shit uses it

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4udNUme3raI&ab_channel=Nep

[deft badger]

DH stages pure cancer

since 2 hours on them

[glass monolith]

Duck it, i rarity abused MO and still lost on final wave like 5 times

[deft badger]

that atk speed reduction is just stupid....

feels like i have -1000 atk speed

lumen heals one time in 10sec

[vocal leaf]

you never play the event when it was a running?

how new players get the stickers? is it possible to get them?

[deft badger]

i don't know what to do with the guys who spawn on bot

did try penance eyja

penance died

did try mud eyja

eyja died

maybe i should switch eyja to s3

the only problem is when the stupid water is there

[cyan gorge]

S-4 or MO?

[deft badger]

nope

[deft badger]

s4

[cyan gorge]

I still remember what I did for s4

Astesia mvp

[vocal leaf]

and do you have the stickers?

[deft badger]

which stickers bro

[cyan gorge]

I used these

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kw_4qfiJxc&ab_channel=Yanap

[spark sinew]

i did s4 with male only am i thinking of different map?

this map, right
ignore the ss, it's from failed attempt

[cyan gorge]

that's S-4 yeah

[spark sinew]

better to just remove it
stickers would make a huge difference

it's one of those maps that you lose the first attempt because it fights very dirty

perma high tide + block 3 guys showing up...

[cyan gorge]

I forgot I brought so many defenders

[spark sinew]

was very fun to do though finally used mountain s3

i'm sure cn optimised it way more, i didn't even bother to look

7 op, blindfolded, no pause, x2 speed, playing with their feet

[vocal leaf]

so new players can’t get them 💀 stickers are buffs like the ones from sn and lonetrail, they’re there to counter and help against the stage effects

[cyan gorge]

[spark sinew]

i thought they're just unlocked by default?

[vocal leaf]

it seems he doesn’t have them

[spark sinew]

or didn't notice them

[cyan gorge]

He asked which ones, so I assumed he had them

[vernal lion]

my DH-S-4 auto bruh