strategy

[deft badger]

actually nah

borrow mlynar just kill all before boss spawns 😄

[near hornet]

Lol Kyo style ?

[deft badger]

use horn to kill the boss while she is standing in the middle

[tidal sedge]

Is this all your operators at e2?

[near hornet]

Yeh

[deft badger]

let me see how he did it since i didn't watch any of it

[near hornet]

Didn't fully upgraded all skills to mastery
Except my Hung

[near hornet]

Go to yt and search "Cw s 4" then he will pop up

[deft badger]

yeah start with mlynar just to get the rockets out of the way that guys are already like 50% of the stage
i see in his video that if u kill the bot orb fast enough she activates the same orb again

[tidal sedge]

He doesn't have Mylnar just Thorns and Chongue

[near hornet]

Support unit

6am lol

[deft badger]

when u bring her in to p2 its over for her the stage is easy from there, horn is able to kill her she stands for a really long time in the middle (p1)

[near hornet]

Ok but wat about other mob

[near hornet]

Also the balls makes me annoying

If I have lee

[deft badger]

u can stall her if u want like kyo did or u can fast push her in to p2

depends what's the best for u if u are able to deal with adds when all stars are active

[deft badger]

fine by me if not stall

[vernal lion]

YEET

[near hornet]

What about other mobs

I think that I could use lin for that but idk

[deft badger]

which cars?

u can block them

[near hornet]

U know the lightsaber one ?

Yeh

[deft badger]

left side saber isn't a problem right side u can use mlynar horn whatever to kill them

didn't even know u can stall the boss that much seems like u can if u are just able to kill that bot star before she activates a other one

mlynar kill all rockets, shaw holing left side, focus on bot side till u killed all the waves there are use mlynar horn to help out bot

[deft badger]

wanna see actually if u can stall that till all ads spawn or is there a spawn stop

[deft badger]

the hell is that dmg xD

[vernal lion]

it's shifting dmg

the dmg calculates by the distance

and it's true dmg

[deft badger]

that shows how much i am used to move adds with shifters

[vernal lion]

btw that is CM

[near hornet]

Ok

[deft badger]

kyo has actually a nice video on cw-s-4 cm 😄

don't know why people don't use it lol

[boreal magnet]

this stage is sssooo stupidd

[spark sinew]

wait for cm 🙂

[vernal lion]

because ppl want better guide, not just low rarity

[boreal magnet]

aint no way im touching cm lmao

[spark sinew]

btw weedy is stronger borrow than feater here

cannon is really op

[crystal cargo]

he probably has an afk guide for it too

[vernal lion]

don't joke like that, as like you have an afk strat one

he called it semi afk, that doesn't mean it's afk

[crystal cargo]

huh

[deft badger]

what's better then low rarity xD

[crystal cargo]

oh it is semi afk

i didnt check

[deft badger]

low star guides are the best, if u understand what's the op used for and have a better rarity op that fits the task use it

but in my opinion there ain't better guides then low rarity xD

after watching this, i have a new strat that would make my run much cleaner lol

can make a video and post it like my first run just to compare lol

[livid delta]

@vernal lion can you test if mudrock module bypasses sp lock on s3

[vernal lion]

ppl don't really need low rarity guide,
but also there are types of ppl who looking for guide:
The knowledgeable person,
and The copy cat

[vernal lion]

I don't play in CN tho

[livid delta]

Oh nvm

[deft badger]

if not stated then it probably doesn't

[livid delta]

That's factually incorrect

[deft badger]

does the mod say gains sp after skill something?

[deft badger]

well if that is so they could state it for starters where they didn't xD

[gritty eagle]

do i have ADHD i dont remember this level

[vernal lion]

what ADHD

[gritty eagle]

like it forcefully exited my memory

what level is that

[vernal lion]

CW-EX-7

[deft badger]

at least they did in spalters case

[gritty eagle]

the cw-s-4 brainrot got to me

[vernal lion]

this is actually good for s3 tho

about s2, she doesn't even need that much sp

the sp part from mod only help to charge her s3 faster

[tidal sedge]

In-game descriptions are sketchy to trust. Hoshi talent was misleading for a long time

Among many other examples

[livid delta]

she in fact does not gain sp on s3

[deft badger]

that sounds more like a translation fail

[tidal sedge]

Not really. It was wrong in CN too

Until they fixed around module upgrades

[deft badger]

hmm ok 😄

so like 2 years later hahaha

[spark sinew]

expected
mod1/none it is

[boreal magnet]

cm become much easier when i found how to burst first phase

[spark sinew]

QB carry

[boreal magnet]

FR im glad i raised her over Thorn

[fierce tendon]

man

[boreal magnet]

s3 1 cycle the star bals

[fierce tendon]

s-4 makes me realize i hate kristen

[fringe jackal]

cm cw-s-4 every time a ball explodes is it true damage or can I reduce it with nightingale?

[spark sinew]

i'm coping for a module that helps her cycling

or maybe helps her to be a bit better offskill at least

[fierce tendon]

do i have to like focus on the balls more than kristen?

s-4

[vernal lion]

CW-S-4 normal, ball is 1080 explosive arts dmg
CM ball is 1368

[fringe jackal]

ah so NG should be able to resist

will swap shining out for ng

[crisp bolt]

honestly I didn't even need NG

if you just space out destroying the balls, it won't kill anyone

[gleaming lodge]

The what ?
Can you explain how that works please

Does she get SP only for S2 ??

[opal kiln]

I think it's about sp lock bypass

[crisp bolt]

yeah I remember reading on the rating sheet since they finally added it

mudrock module doesn't bypass sp lockout

[boreal magnet]

bursting kristen phase 1 will make ur life easier

[fringe jackal]

I spaced it out, but shining died. May be because my Shining is e2 level 1

[crisp bolt]

ideally for s3 you get skill 2 seconds faster and 6 seconds faster on recharge

but that's rarely going to happen

[livid delta]

some modules allow operators to bypass sp lockout like W's sp module

[crisp bolt]

since shield break during s3 duration gives you nothing

[livid delta]

I wanted to find out if it enabled Mudrock to gain sp when her shield breaks during skill

[crisp bolt]

it doesn't

[livid delta]

since Siege's s3 also gains sp during skill duration

[boreal magnet]

4 hour malding in normal make CM walk in the park

[crisp bolt]

I wish it did because it'd make using with s2 so much better

most of the time you'll lose out on the SP

[livid delta]

Mudrock's module isn't as good as it looked like on paper then

[crisp bolt]

the base effect is still really good though

[livid delta]

it does make her more resilient against ranged attacks

so I guess it's not all bad

it also speeds up her first s3 activation

[fierce tendon]

its just that my issue is that damn big missle dude

[boreal magnet]

during first wave? or the 1 bazoka came on kristen phase 2?

[fierce tendon]

first wave

[boreal magnet]

if you can borrow mlynar, him and healer can wipe two of that bazookas

deploy them early

[crisp bolt]

I borrowed surtr entirely to deal with this

and then I used aak + monst3r to burst p1 on boss

you can deploy someone on top of the bottom bazooka to shift him slightly out of range of the gravity up shift button

[fierce tendon]

whats cm for s-4?

[vernal lion]

Kristen gets more DR, balls apply aspd debuff even more

and +32% stats

[fierce tendon]

whats dr again? i forgot

[vernal lion]

damage reduction

[fierce tendon]

fuk

[vernal lion]

iirc 1 ball gives 45% DR

[crisp bolt]

yeah with all balls she has something like 90% DR

[vernal lion]

98% DR with 6 balls

[crisp bolt]

I'm still waiting for the POO preparers doing all balls kristen clear

[pliant furnace]

besides those robots at the start, do more robots spawn?

[crisp bolt]

one rocket and like 4 of the melee ones

[vernal lion]

1 melee, 1 ranged, 2 melee at the end

[crisp bolt]

it's why I brought surtr

[fierce tendon]

sooo i just have to burst kristen phase 1 asap?

[crisp bolt]

it's easiest if you do

trying to deal with enemies + ball conversion while tanking the 2 rocket dudes is pain

[pliant furnace]

but my surtr got stunned

[fierce tendon]

even normal one makes me feel tedious

[crisp bolt]

that's a skill issue

[fierce tendon]

yeah skill issue

how to burst kristen phase 1 fast?

[next frost]

I just copied Eyja + Mlynar strat and it works well

[crisp bolt]

I did it with monst3r + Aak + gravity + texalter

the eyja strat is really good

I used a part of it

[pliant furnace]

What eyja strat

[vernal lion]

you deploy your Surtr on melee robot?

[pliant furnace]

yea

[vernal lion]

why?

[fierce tendon]

gravity? as in with the balls? or the gravity switch ?

[pliant furnace]

well the melee robot walked into her

[crisp bolt]

I got a pretty neat trick I did to handle the start of it

[jovial nest]

Its already done by Minus. Did Sleep strats

[crisp bolt]

give me a sec

how long was the clear time?

[jovial nest]

3 hrs iirc was the stall

Setup not included

[fierce tendon]

can you show me the eyja strat?

lemme see how it works

[jovial nest]

Either way if you can do TLK diff15, you can do Kristen 6 star kill

[next frost]

Low end with Eyja that I copied.

https://youtu.be/ahRKXkRQqhw?si=-CvMuKNPnMiiQ-v1

[fringe jackal]

72 hours of struggling and god knows how many tries on normal and I clear CW-S-4 CM on the first try

[pliant furnace]

do the robots have like no res or something

[crisp bolt]

I actually can't send a clip on how I do this

curse video size

[spark sinew]

they have res

[pliant furnace]

what units are fastest at destroying her balls

[crisp bolt]

eyja does really well

and can hit multiple

[cyan gorge]

Yato, Texalt, Eyja, Ceobe

[spark sinew]

gg is the best but probably not the fastest, no need for repositioning is very big

[crisp bolt]

inb4 she nukes them too fast

[cyan gorge]

If she kills them too fast, it's worse for you

[spark sinew]

should be fine, as long as it's only gg that kills them

you'll have time to heal up to full

i used her in my clear and she shouldn't nuke multiple balls i believe (not unless you dropped them low before)

[latent anvil]

goldenglow takes forever

[vivid rain]

I was so terrified of cw s 3 a

Then i realize increased damage means nothing if the enemy cant hit your op

Anyway that was one of the few practical usage of mountain s3 i found

[cyan gorge]

3-A is hilarious

kill the laser bots and the rockets die to bleed

[vivid rain]

After scary laser bot controller guy dies everything just dies

Speed things up with ifrit cuz lmfao

[pliant furnace]

iirc an entire gg s3 cant even kill one

[cyan gorge]

The stage is slow enough that redeploying ops to kill balls isn't that big a deal

stalling boss isn't hard of a feat either

[spark sinew]

now I'm curious if i just misremember

or i stripped down res with my executors beforehand

[pliant furnace]

are there any non stall strats for s-4

i hate stalling cuz its very likely i screw something up

[turbid badge]

GG

[near basalt]

Hey guys is 6star phantom good

[pliant furnace]

he fell off cuz yato and texas are just way better

[somber falcon]

You can kinda just let kristen be on her own, she wanders around quite a bit

[near basalt]

Got a top op tag and got phantom as guaranteed r top op + crowd control tag

[pliant furnace]

if u have tex2 or ya2 just dont

[near basalt]

Not have both

[cyan gorge]

Just use all 3

[near basalt]

Mm

[fringe jackal]

stall prevents you from getting overwhelmed

[near basalt]

Which to use

[turbid badge]

phantom physical damage do have fall off as enemies in current chapters are bloated, but hey Module D exists and hes still used for stalling

[crisp bolt]

weed 33/33/33

[near basalt]

Have weed

[crisp bolt]

than Aak

[cyan gorge]

Weedy afk one side, medic defender + caster the other side
the rest of your squad is boss and ball/robot killers

[crisp bolt]

I just rarity abuse

[somber falcon]

ranged ops + weedy dies to p1 deathsplosion

[near basalt]

So which tag to use

[cyan gorge]

Then kill the balls

if you die to that, that's wholly on you

[crisp bolt]

if you nuke fast enough you can get only 1 explosion

[tidal sedge]

Except range unit all melee at least can take 1 ball explo... I think?

[crisp bolt]

ranged can tank 1 ball

[somber falcon]

Yeah

[crisp bolt]

if they're leveled enough

[fringe jackal]

look at your unit's hp before unleashing an explosion, also will need a decent healer that don't die

[cyan gorge]

It's like 1080 arts per ball iirc

[crisp bolt]

1368 in cm

[cyan gorge]

any leveled e2 can take one

[crisp bolt]

but still same thing

[cyan gorge]

Tbf I had insurance by bringing Silalter s2 to guarantee my ops survive

[tidal sedge]

Not bring any medic... When will I learn how to stall

[fringe jackal]

I am too small brained for these strategies

[crisp bolt]

I wish I had weed

[fringe jackal]

weedy is so busted on this map

[crisp bolt]

I don't have the certs to afford her shoperator

so I got to cope for top op

[fringe jackal]

I hope you get her broom

[crisp bolt]

I already failed the 50/50 once

[fringe jackal]

😦

[pliant furnace]

i wish i had aak
double phantom top op

[verbal badger]

can i beat cw-ex-8 with my units?

[spark sinew]

BASEd units
raise purestream though

there should be a guide with mlynar/surtr core for ex8, so I'd say you should

[verbal badger]

dont have

[spark sinew]

she's in recruit with support+medic, gl

[verbal badger]

ah i see

[spark sinew]

should be easy to snipe
even solo support is like 50% chance for her

[verbal badger]

but yea, all the guides im seeing requires me to have built specialists

so i assume i prob cant clear with this right

[spark sinew]

pusher will help immensely yeah
that said i think they need relatively low investment

i heard from someone that even e1 sl4 shaw works?
but i haven't tried it myself

[smoky crescent]

i rmbr there is a guide with surtr, mlynar and eyja core
u might borrow eyja

[verbal badger]

do you have a link to the guide

[cyan gorge]

Eckogen's guide uses Mlynar and Yato (borrow) as only 6*s
your 3-stars are a little too uninvested tho

[verbal badger]

so not possible for me?

[jovial nest]

I really wish newer players would ask for old players' opinions on e2 capping their 6*....

[verbal badger]

i bought the e2 max ticket so i didnt waste any resources

[jovial nest]

Ah figures

Thats fine then

So you did the combo heh

Selector and e2 max?

[verbal badger]

yea

[jovial nest]

Next step is to raise a laner

Mlynar lanes but he acts more like a nuker

QB looks to be a solid one for you

[hot dagger]

how TF does one beat CW EX6????

[jovial nest]

Use balls

[spark sinew]

i'm kinda liking that blem honestly
QB s2 is kinda ass but her s3 is also ass

without mastery

[hot dagger]

howwww

i need to switch up down a lot?

[latent anvil]

Qiubai is so op fr

[spark sinew]

underrated and overrated at the same time

it's very funny to see discussions about her

[jovial nest]

And here I am still a Thorns boi

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1047476215604334644.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

My boi relevant in a lot of content

[hot dagger]

EX6 help

[jovial nest]

Specifics pls

[tidal sedge]

My run consists of quibai,Ines, Texas, arturia,sadcat will later

[jovial nest]

Team, what part you getting owned

Etc

[hot dagger]

assume i have all 6 stars

i getting owned when the balls start moving

[jovial nest]

[hot dagger]

or rather the ball bouncers moving

[jovial nest]

So press switches to control the enemy movement

Once the bots are gone, youll see how the balls block lanes naturally

[cyan gorge]

The top bot moves much later than the bottom one

[jovial nest]

Yeah so make your death lane around that fact

I'd kill bot lane and make my death lane there accordingly

[spark sinew]

just raise all your lords i do agree that QB>Thorns though

[cyan gorge]

Basically funnel top to abuse ranged ops, funnel bottom to abuse melee

[hot dagger]

what do i do about the rocket car

[jovial nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/914925866306404423.gif?size=48

[hot dagger]

i can't block both lanes for the rocket car

[jovial nest]

Use....bawls and casters/arts

Who said to block rockets

[spark sinew]

just stack casters and slow on the top lane

[hot dagger]

so i need sth like suzuran to slow?

ok

[cyan gorge]

Slowers and casters

[spark sinew]

on normal i did caster only

[jovial nest]

I went with top lane due to a lot of ranged tiles

Bot lane is a bit hard to use

[cyan gorge]

I was the mad man who funneled bottom and used Saria s3 + Tex/Yato panic spam

[jovial nest]

All ground, barely any blocking

[loud heath]

[spark sinew]

intended solution is 100% top lane

[latent anvil]

Qiubai dmg is actually so good

[tidal sedge]

Top robot doesn't move until map is over. It's better to avoid killing it until then imo

[jovial nest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669489344658014208/1174706453764919416/image.png?ex=6571cc23&is=655f5723&hm=8e1bb4d5f3834012d15cc97bf7c7fa3b47aeeb0ddc3a11a211cae3f51816b2f5&

This was mine

Ignore BP

Her job was to soften the shield guys

[spark sinew]

qb block 2 is vnice
but honestly it's hard to justify her

[jovial nest]

Cant wait for Typhon

The new laning hotness

[spark sinew]

over just using something like surtr

[latent anvil]

Her hair looks very nice, and she has a cool belt, also good dmg with suzu is fun

[jovial nest]

Can also kill bosses with S3

[spark sinew]

now if only all 3 of her arts weren't bad

[jovial nest]

Thank goodness i like her skin

[cyan gorge]

QB can hit air, Surt can't

[spark sinew]

unfortunately there's like

1 air boss

[jovial nest]

Hmmmm

Does Ya fly in p2?

[hot dagger]

oh wow stage is so easy with top lane strat

[cyan gorge]

I don't think of QB as a boss killer the way Surt is

[hot dagger]

i guess im just too small brain

[cyan gorge]

Yes

[jovial nest]

Also theres a mandragora with barely any pillars

Tfn1 ptsd

[spark sinew]

damn i already was cooking you a strat without touching a button

oh well 😦

[hot dagger]

😂 😂

i didn;'t see the ifrit lane either

[latent anvil]

Wow no mod on suzu

[tidal sedge]

Bot lane strat isn't really demanding either tbh

[latent anvil]

Can't solo 1-7, very sad

[spark sinew]

mod is pretty garbage

i have the numbers to back it up

[latent anvil]

But it makes her solo 1-7 which is very important

[spark sinew]

her uptime barely moves

[latent anvil]

Oh I use s2

[spark sinew]

oh you're doomed anyway then

coping for second carne module as well

[dark carbon]

Dumb question, but why didnt dorothy trap explode? They just sat there and got kill

[spark sinew]

unless they really fuck up, upgrading +sp talent surely should be better than the current one

[tidal sedge]

What map is this happening

[dark carbon]

Sn ex 2 cm

[cyan gorge]

In what context
At least provide evidence of it happening

[tidal sedge]

Do you have +1 block little handy

[spark sinew]

don't do sn maps before rerun

[tidal sedge]

That affects the trap. So it'll block something and get killed

[spark sinew]

we will have missions that want us to clear them

[cyan gorge]

Just wait 5 days

[dark carbon]

Yes I do

Fix it now

Thanks

[tidal sedge]

Np. It's a janky interaction.

[cyan gorge]

Oh right handy interactions are gonna be hilarious this time around

[vernal lion]

just use pusher/puller with trapmaster

[jovial nest]

+1block is the weaker rhoomba choice anyways unless youre using beanstalk

[cyan gorge]

Wait does +1 block work on Stainless turret too?

cause s3 turret has 6k hp

and 2k def

[turbid badge]

why

Its a enemy tho

[south bone]

blocking the invi guy while Tactician summon still down is pretty cool

[turbid badge]

[cyan gorge]

I forgot about that

[turbid badge]

muelseye + beanstalk

who can be the ultimate breeder

[latent anvil]

[foggy grove]

the answer is vigil obv

[turbid badge]

so he can die to necrosis faster

OH WAIT

OH WAIT

i can do the funny

artificer block

infinite health block strat

artificer artifact op tank

silence alt drone

[spark sinew]

yeah she kills them very quckly
obviously won't do it if she's in range of the -atkspd though

[pliant furnace]

Eyja is way faster
She did kill my whole squad hut thats a minor issue

[spark sinew]

also redeploying ew

pink dog reigns supreme

[cyan gorge]

Imagine owning pink cat

[spark sinew]

well yeah it's assuming if you borrow/have a choice

[jovial nest]

Also the good thing about GG for S-4 is just align her to the gravity that increases ASPD

[spark sinew]

gg is way more chill to use than every other caster or ball "breaker"

also i played without sound for...a long time, forgot how good phantom's va was

see you in a year during rerun 😢

[foggy grove]

[turbid badge]

global range

moment

fastest ball breaker is kay , few taps with autos and diseappear kek

[jovial nest]

Eh you have to redep her

Good thing about GG is she actually prios the stars

[turbid badge]

Yea

[cyan gorge]

Cause they have taunt

[jovial nest]

No matter how many enemies, she targets stars

[turbid badge]

im just saying like she breaks them the fastest, ball no plural!

(ball)

[jovial nest]

I still bring Ceo cause she slaughters those mechs ane rockets

[turbid badge]

but honestly GG+ both alters should be fine

Just for the balls

did fine for my run

had saria tank

p2 for a bot

Bit

[turbid badge]

Yea

[jovial nest]

Imagine having to block Kristen

[turbid badge]

they slaughter cuz there defense is off the roof

[jovial nest]

Weak team

[turbid badge]

smh i woulda stalled but got lazy

And by stall i mean

not block but erato

[spark sinew]

i blocked kristen cause it's easier to kill phase 2 when she doesn't move

can't even push her around like those mechs

[cyan gorge]

Cause she's unbalance/shift immune

[spark sinew]

yeah, sad

although obviously it's understandable why she is like that

[glass monolith]

#strategy message she is not immune to dumb shit

[storm current]

oh that is really dumb and working

[glass monolith]

Damn Discord convert fucked up, clip suppose to end with frame of everyone dying to explosion

[spark sinew]

couldn't you just do Nothing + erato btw

and save for bk, stainless, lisk and shitton of clicking

[glass monolith]

Well i need to have Nothing to do that

[storm current]

uh

mr nothing face opposite the gravity?

for the -aspd

[spark sinew]

should face toward

erato sleeps for 5 seconds anyway, so nothing always stuns

in IS3 TLK you need his red aura for +atkspd because otherwise TLK inches towards i believe

[brisk pollen]

how funny that s-2 stages are easier than s-1

literally did it first try

[spark sinew]

do you have the rest of ops and are willing to recreate this

[mortal forge]

Anyone here uses besiegers?

[cyan gorge]

I just use Totter and Erato

[glass monolith]

I need to build Rosa, Totter and plan to pull Typhon

[brisk pollen]

e2'd todd bc her e2 art is cool

[spark sinew]

i use rosa sometimes

honorary besieger ig

hard to justify totter mods, considering his damage clearly shows that he is a 4*

are you asking because you want to build one?

[mortal forge]

I don't have a besieger yet but they seem interesting

[cyan gorge]

But he still does good damage

especially vs invis

[spark sinew]

when i actually needed his damage on some undertides daily, he was lacking 😦

[mortal forge]

Also I'm contemplating whether to get Erato or Tuye for SS shop

[spark sinew]

literally was easier to use scene's robot and nuke with other stuff, since totter doesn't do enough regardless

[cyan gorge]

Probably cause you don't have mod or masteries

[spark sinew]

it was before the module

[cyan gorge]

well mod helps with that damage

[jovial nest]

Typhon soon

[spark sinew]

sure does, yeah enemies also getting tankier though

[jovial nest]

Do we ever get free 5* selectors these days?

[cyan gorge]

Next one is anniversary

[storm current]

always once every anniversary

[boreal magnet]

free 6* selector when

[glass monolith]

Options: Vigil, This CN dude Skadi who saves her from "Can't extend range 6* Guard" meme

[waxen swan]

You guys finished everything already?

[jovial nest]

Yeah

[glass monolith]

Only thing i didn't finish is shop

[spark sinew]

same
idt i even have enough sanity to finish it considering farming chips as well

those no breaks events are a pain

[glass monolith]

Well we had CC into dead week into chapter 12 so....

[waxen swan]

No rerun ?

Also yeah shop isn't clean yet it's always the last thing to finish

[storm current]

S stage isnt that bad

[turbid badge]

rosa and typhon hit like a truck

[jovial nest]

i finished my shop

[jovial nest]

S-4 felt like a pretty high stats check even when considering shifts

[storm current]

eh

you mean kristen or the enemies

[jovial nest]

Kristen and the entire DV mechs

[storm current]

S 4 CM is a +32% stat

[jovial nest]

they really peppered those guys

[storm current]

kristen get even more dred

specifically go from 35% per balls to 45%

[jovial nest]

no goddamn wonder those things hurt like a mofo even when popping 1 ball

that means you can wipe most of your board with just 2 ball kills

and thats if considering Kristen is in phase 2 harass range

and the 3rd missile guy appears

2 missile guys start is pretty tight

[storm current]

its not that bad if you use the weedy kaltsit mlynar cheese

[jovial nest]

ngl

this is harder than most stats checks

cause most stat checks don't challenge your sustain so early

and make the early part be the most hectic and difficult

especially since you're racing to kill Kristen's p1 asap

so it challenges sustain very early

and then require you to both deal with the missile guys and nuke Kristen P1 asap

[fringe jackal]

harder stages coming

[jovial nest]

now imagine how much more difficult it would've been if shift wasn't available

3 Jedis and 3 Defenders constantly flowing towards bot right

[glass monolith]

But first. GNOSIS AGE HAS COME AGAIN

[fringe jackal]

that song is a banger

[turbid badge]

without the shift in wudda been ded

Phantom too op

[glass monolith]

O hey 1 pull because they F up survey link

[jovial nest]

same for Lappy

Lappland really shined in the first SN

[jovial nest]

but but but

what if i succeeded in the questionnaire?

can i get a double dip?

[glass monolith]

i hope

[jovial nest]

Mangos and Oriron farming in SN huh

I'm already saving pots since the start of this week

got enough Alloys and Aketons

[somber stone]

Mangos?

[storm current]

mangos refer to manganese ore

[somber stone]

Bruh they aren’t even the same colour

[glass monolith]

I call it m.Ore because i never have enough

[jovial nest]

it's just a shortcut

do you want me to call them mangas just to make it more confusing?

cause there are AK mangas

[storm current]

@scarlet ledge are you going to do the caster clear

or ceobeless?

[scarlet ledge]

my caster on cn is kek

if utalking about en

i might do ceobeless for 600

[storm current]

wait i meant like

do you have ceobe for it

[wise perch]

help ex8 is actually hard

for left lane who do I use

lightsabers whoop ass

[storm current]

weedy s2

easiest cheese by far

regular pusher should still work

[scarlet ledge]

ngl im confused

explain

[storm current]

the caster clear for pyrolysis use ceobe

so i meant, do you not have ceobe in CN

[scarlet ledge]

i have her

e0

plus i already have a clear for trimmed on #salt-mines

[storm current]

icb

this is why you suffer from pinch out

cuz no ceobe

[scarlet ledge]

i have ceobe on en

but i might mod her

kekl

but i dont wanna mod her

[glass monolith]

Shoperatored Ceobe assemble

[versed arrow]

I blame ppl sleeping on ceobe on #help , sure there are better casters but she is good when you need her

[scarlet ledge]

its just gg eyja dumbness

[versed arrow]

ceobe literally kills the 4 block dudes in seconds for me this event

[storm current]

well ye

those have like 5k def

she is design to melt them

[glass monolith]

Haze Indigo Astgenne Adventures of "no 6* clearing"

[scarlet ledge]

this

[wise perch]

ok yes but if I place her after the ball is twisted she doesn't get her skill up

[quartz badge]

i need help on cw-s-4 normal and cm the mechs with the shoulder mounted rockets are absolutely leaving me befuddled

[wise perch]

zzz

[versed arrow]

i think you can also use lee for same effect, and faster skill activation

[quartz badge]

Farthest ive gotten on cw-s-4
No i do not have mlynar or eyja or weedy im hooding it out

[storm current]

do you want a cheese or advice

[quartz badge]

Cheese first then advice

[storm current]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Tm4y187s7/

something like this for weedy s2

for right side, weedy s2 can perma stall

while left side can be held with a lane holder or some sort

[quartz badge]

i dont have kaltsit

[storm current]

not necessary

kaltsit is for the low ops cheese

you can use regular burst healer

[quartz badge]

ic

[storm current]

mlynar can kill kristen extremely fast

but surtr should still work

just cant hit the mech

[quartz badge]

For the nukes i only have surtr texalter yato alter i dont have mlynar

[versed arrow]

you can survive missile with aoe medic, just dont kill the balls the while missile launcher guy is out. missile + ball explosion can kill your squad

[storm current]

i assume you are using texas s2

[quartz badge]

yes

[storm current]

with weedy, you can perma stall right lane

for left lane, yato s2 is enough to kill all jedi

so you just need to slowly kill all the balls, one at a time

[quartz badge]

so i clear the enemies first then balls then block kristen?

[storm current]

dont kill multiple balls at once, each balls deal like 1.1k art, can kill range units

[versed arrow]

if you want to block boss, you can kill till boss is 3 block and block with saria. she can stall her by herself

[storm current]

yes

texas s2 should be able to kill the stationary mech

as long as she doesnt block them

you can use weedy cannon to push the missile launcher to a more favorable spot

[tropic valve]

I also like Weedy S2 permastall

least amount of worry

[storm current]

you can push him into here

then place texas s2 on the tile below face up to gain benefit from aspd

which should kill the mech

kristen is slow af

so you have plenty of time to kill her

kill balls first

[quartz badge]

the only other problem i find is the fact my dp cost gets really high cause of redeployment and the balls doing absurd amounts of arts damage

[storm current]

kill them slowly ye

or

kill the missile before the balls

because you are dealing with 2 range threat if you kill balls early

[winter mural]

after too many tries i just gave up on trying to burst down missile that comes after 23rd and focused on stalling last melee dude with weedy(dont even need s2)

aka kill all before 23, leave last 23rd melee alive and focus on orbs + boss

[jovial nest]

that 3rd Missile mech going towards the middle was when i realized....oh I'm reserving Surtr for that guy after this

[winter mural]

i also dont have mlynar so it was interesting experience

[storm current]

uh no good caster?

[quartz badge]

Ceobe my only e2 caster

[storm current]

nah i meant the other guy

but ceobe should be good for balls breaking

[quartz badge]

I have carnelian, ebenholz and goldenglow at e1 lv60+

[storm current]

and melt all mech

well

goldenglow would be so nice for this

carnelian is dead tho

[winter mural]

i've used lin+ejya in the end to clear

[fringe jackal]

goldenglow is really good for this map

[storm current]

goldenglow is good for lone trail in general

[quartz badge]

Yea cause drone accord but the problem is she dies alot

Cause of my placement and altitude switching timing

[wise perch]

now what

[storm current]

block her

oh

you should be killing the balls

why didnt you use goldenglow tho

hoshi + lumen easily stall her forever

[winter mural]

need to burst 2-3 balls to block her depending on if your hoshi has module for 4 block or not

[scarlet ledge]

killing balls is easy

i just use minima on balls

[storm current]

kristen is tanky, but weak

just block her

[wise perch]

cus she kills the bottom left ball which then goes up cus weedy is on up

which is a problem

[storm current]

you have 2 options

spawn kill her phase 1 before she spawn a 2nd balls

or kill the balls before she die on phase 1

[wise perch]

hssss ok

[storm current]

on phase 2, she convert all balls, but wont continue converting

any balls you kill will stop convering

[wise perch]

what's needed to spawnkill phase 1

[south bone]

but everytime you freed the captured ball, it'll do an arts global explosion

[winter mural]

keep in mind that killing ball in phase2 deals about 800-900 arts dmg to all your ops on map so try to not kill them all at once

[wise perch]

yes I was planning to use GG on phase 2

[jovial nest]

that reminds me....

R6S rerun....

[storm current]

suzu + pozy easily nuke her

[jovial nest]

it's gonna give us EoE!

[soft crystal]

Couple of options like Suzu+Pozy, Aak+Mlynar

[winter mural]

any boss bursting combo or meta thing really, surtr s3 + texalter s2, pozymka + shwartz s3

[wise perch]

aight aak mylnar it iz

[jovial nest]

weird that Chalter + Mlynar ain't there

heh

[wise perch]

m2s3 aak shld be good nuf right

[jovial nest]

but Aak is also a good one

[wise perch]

too expensive I think

boss spawns quite early

[storm current]

chalter is slow

[winter mural]

i dont have mlynar so i generally dont use him and i forget about chalter existence way too often 😄

[wise perch]

chalter wont get up in time

[scarlet ledge]

kekl for new player there

[jovial nest]

here's the dilemma

[winter mural]

if its not cm - can even do specter alter, she surprisingly melts kristen

[jovial nest]

will it finally join Sidestory after it's finished?

[fringe jackal]

for cw ex 8 cm the easiest way is to stall in the middle like in this guide https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1b24y1K76z/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=2c01a4509ad6fa13e2e11f9bfa2da7a0 it's very reliable

[soft crystal]

Mlynar being 13 dp lmaooooo

[fringe jackal]

you can stall for 999 seconds and two balls will roll off in cw ex 8 cm

[winter mural]

what, why

[fringe jackal]

in cw ex 8 cm only, the two right balls roll off if you haven't pushed them after 999 seconds

[wise perch]

no way I lose

right

[tropic valve]

right

[fringe jackal]

right

a positive attitude is the first step towards success!

[winter mural]

i needed those words 3 hours ago 😄

[wise perch]

bruhhhhh mylnar attacked the stupid shield guys instead fuck this

[winter mural]

my cw-s-4 normal clear was scuffed and i've been trying to get cm clear for basically 2 hours cause i'm "too proud for a guide"

[winter mural]

i did clear it in the end though, lin deserved fully leveled module for basically carrying me

[lethal dragon]

It's fun tho

[winter mural]

sleep stalling/killing?

[glass monolith]

Y, 1 hour of my life spend well (still more fun than IRL job)

[wise perch]

and now we wait

[gleaming lodge]

I get your other points, but why ranged damage ?
Also the cycle improvement of S3 is absolutely insane.
Mud didn't deserve that good of a module imo

[wise perch]

oops

[winter mural]

sounds pretty similar to "bind" malding i do ever since i got quibai+ines combo going

[spark sinew]

it really doesn't look all that good for s3 to me
you didn't care too much about it cycle already since 25sp anyway

[winter mural]

you do need healer on top left exit for weedy

[wise perch]

the only thing that can attack her is the boss so I kinda just have to kill the boss faster imo

[winter mural]

balls explosions hurt her tho

[wise perch]

what can hold top right

[wise perch]

not if ball is at top

oh wait u mean when they pop

[winter mural]

yeah

[wise perch]

yeah ok I'll grab silence

who can hold top right

I've been using ling but that feels very dp inefficient

wait can Chong Yue feed off the balls

ima try that

[winter mural]

kaltsit kinda does the job with s3 for cars, same concept as ling but cheaper

may need to stall some cars tho if you get 2 going at the same time

[wise perch]

will try that

fuck this

[livid delta]

for a second I forgot mudrock's kit and thought her s2 granted a shield on activation

[lethal dragon]

Shu getting old

[gritty eagle]

is cw-s-4 hard or am i just stupid

[glass monolith]

Only hard part is cope stupid ranged robots at start

Then 2 pushers to keep hold boxes, kill boss before wave 1 fully spawn (Last spawn is 3 red jedi right, followed by melee robot left) to delay last wave (Ranged robots + cars cringe), proceed to kill balls while boss goes circles around map

[tropic valve]

do you have Lin

she takes 0 damage from missiles

[glass monolith]

On normal E2 60 Lin no module tanks ranged robots with S3M3, on CM need module

[tropic valve]

ah, good to know

[glass monolith]

And you need phantom S3, Weedy cannon or something else to push robots together (all tiles where Lin would hit both are banned )

Oh also Gladiia S3 exist i guess if we go into F2P availability, both way to pull top right robot down and then get redeployed to wash away whatever comes right

[fierce tendon]

FINALLY

I can finally live in peace for now

I redeployed soo many texalter and yalter

And eyja and surtr if necessary

[fringe jackal]

you did well

[gleaming lodge]

that would be a stupid kit given S2 is defensive recovery

[glass monolith]

Helicopter helicopter

Spin on hit

[stark bobcat]

Greetings fellow doktas

I have decided to struggle with Lone Trail to get the Rhine lab deco

Currently stuck at this here stage

And I'll probably be stuck in many more until I complete CW-EX-8

[waxen swan]

There more than ex btw

[stark bobcat]

Yeah but ex-8 is the last deco piece

Got any tips for this one or do I show you the units I can use

[waxen swan]

What u have

[timid schooner]

I DID IT

YESSSSSSSSSSS

I DID IT

GG

[stark bobcat]

Might be garbage but it's my garbage (been playing for like 3 weeks)

[waxen swan]

Im not gonna sugarcoat it mate i don't think you can get ex 8

[stark bobcat]

I'm not going to lie I didn't think either
But with regular Cw-8 it's also good

[waxen swan]

Normal stage are piss easy

[stark bobcat]

Ex 8 gets like a walk decal, mostly looking for rhines floor and wall

[waxen swan]

If you're really desperate you have to look for low star run on yt

This is beyond my ability

[stark bobcat]

Yeah but help on regular stages is alright too

I struggle with heavy enemies in general

[waxen swan]

Yeah there tanky as hell even with max op

[plucky flint]

Aboos the mechanics

Shield guys loses def and res per dmg instance taken

[stark bobcat]

So absurd attack speed should work?

[plucky flint]

Yes, or DoT type

As long as they take dmg

[waxen swan]

What about the star wars

[plucky flint]

Push them

Or run them over with balls

[stark bobcat]

Off to be a real big brain strategist and

Go watch a guide on YouTube because I am clueless

[turbid lagoon]

Yeet the Star Wars guys, drone casters work pretty well again the fatties same with Ethan

[waxen swan]

Might need to do e0

[plucky flint]

E0 Ethan works well

[upper hare]

can this even help clear cw s 4

it feels impossible

I dont get enough dp to tank kristen after placing an eyja to clear the robots

[ocean herald]

nah bro you literally have nothing

dont even try 🤣

[upper hare]

I almost beat it already

I just cant reproduce the initial tank

[ocean herald]

wtf are you using on this cockblocking stage 💀

I cant even beat it with a superteam

[peak cloak]

you have choices, u can try and no one stops u being whatever u want.
however, know what your ops and your limits will help and everyone need guides and learn, even me with 2 years ,i'm still asking for helps about IS.

[ocean herald]

and bros using elite 1 level 50 ops for it

[upper hare]

more than a dozen guides

[ocean herald]

how

[upper hare]

you just stall

[ocean herald]

this is a cockblocking stage

[upper hare]

hoe can you not beat this with elite ops?

[ocean herald]

wtf am i supposed to use

[upper hare]

🤨

I did the whole event with this

[ocean herald]

because its stupud af

[storm current]

its quite easy once you get the strategy down

[upper hare]

I just need to tank the initial kristen and then stall and burst with eyja

but I cant get to tank her at the start

[storm current]

if you want to see how they cheese it here https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Tm4y187s7/

[upper hare]

I did it once

[ocean herald]

the boss is litreally unkillable

wtf am i supposed to do

[upper hare]

?

[storm current]

?

[upper hare]

dude

[storm current]

that is if you ignore the mechanic

[ocean herald]

stupid cockblocking stage

[upper hare]

sounds like a skill issue to me

[storm current]

my guy

you are supposed to kill the balls first

[upper hare]

oh lol

he isnt killing shit?

[ocean herald]

how bro

[storm current]

if you ignore the balls then kristen will get dmg reduction

[upper hare]

just burst them

[ocean herald]

you literally cant kill them

[storm current]

just use art

[upper hare]

at the start

[ocean herald]

nothing does enough damage for them

[ocean herald]

!?

the boss just controls them again

[upper hare]

eyja one shots with skill

[storm current]

no

phase 1 the boss can take over balls

[ocean herald]

who?

[upper hare]

eyja?

[storm current]

but she stop at phase 2

easiest way is nuking phase 1 with mlynar

[upper hare]

oh really?

maybe I can try that too

[ocean herald]

i dont know who that is

[storm current]

then slowly kill all balls with something like yato s2 or texas s2 or goldenglow

[ocean herald]

and i hate mlynar

[upper hare]

and you were laughing at me 💀

[storm current]

just use anything to kill phase 1 fast then

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVEIVJHSC-k&ab_channel=KyoStinV

[storm current]

the only hope for you is using a pusher to hold one of the lane

[upper hare]

yea feater does the work

[ocean herald]

I seriously dont bro

[upper hare]

dont what

[storm current]

uh

do you want the summary how to clear the mechanic

or detailed

[ocean herald]

how do you clear it

[storm current]

short or long

[ocean herald]

wdym!?

Ij ust need a stratagy

or ill just wait for next year when my teams alot stronger and destroy this stage

[storm current]

nuke phase 1
stall one of the side lane with a pusher
use goldenglow or texas or surtr to nuke mech and balls
kill balls once at a time, before attacking kristen, because balls give dmg reduction

[vernal lion]

short = GG
long = sleep strat

[storm current]

eh

[vernal lion]

[storm current]

if you dont follow the mechanic

i doubt a better team will change that

[bold lance]

Mlynar Alter will have enough damage to ignore the 90% resist Kristen has, right?

[storm current]

no

[vernal lion]

ugh, it's 97,3% DR

[ocean herald]

bruh the balls slow down attack speed

and then they get destroyed by the robots

[storm current]

uh

[bold lance]

Look, it was a blind guess.

[storm current]

just use any attack

[storm current]

the balls have high atk and res
but lose 50 def and 1 res every hit

until reaching 0

[vernal lion]

97,3% at 6 balls

[storm current]

so keep attacking and eventually they will have 0 def res

kristen is easily stallable

cuz shes weak af

[hybrid orchid]

is there like a shop operator schedule? i want to get weedy but i want to plan for another operator

[storm current]

not totally

but we have an idea of "debut" order

[vernal lion]

EN schedule becomes different than CN

[hybrid orchid]

hmmm then should i just look at the debut order for reference even though it might not be accurate?

i just want some idea who is coming in the future

[storm current]

the order some what is like this

previously was pallas

so mizuki should debut soon

the "debut" banner pattern so far is once every 3 banners

tho mostly speculation

[hybrid orchid]

hmm alright

the most i really want are horn, irene, and uncle atm

[storm current]

but you can expect its like

pallas => 2 banners => mizuki => 2 banners => saileach => etc

the filler banner can be shop rerun

which we dont know

[bold lance]

None of those three will be in the shop any time soon

[storm current]

its

approx late 2024 for them

[hybrid orchid]

oh alright lol i guess i can safely buy weedy then

[near hornet]

Any cw s 4 cm helper ?

[storm current]

do you want advice or a cheese

[supple ice]

Heyo Is Melanite a good unit?

[vernal lion]

she's decent, good for defense with s2

[supple ice]

What you mean good for defense?

[vernal lion]

so have you read her s2 description?

[supple ice]

I haven't level her so I haven't seen her S2

[vernal lion]

her s2 is "Ifrit lane" skill

but I think you just need the first tile to hit all enemies

[plucky flint]

With a 15 sp CD

[supple ice]

Sounds like a good amount of damage, which my relatively fresh account needs

[jovial nest]

Ok so

[plucky flint]

Tbh I wouldn't recommend to raise melanite

[jovial nest]

there's some player in is-station mentioning Lee strats for TLK

does this have merit?

[supple ice]

Why tho

[plucky flint]

Let me ask u this, why do u think u need melanite in your team

[vernal lion]

Lee and Erato

[jovial nest]

[supple ice]

I thought her gun looks cool lol

[jovial nest]

yeah no

Lee's more hope expensive AND DP-expensive

[plucky flint]

She's a heavyshooter, main skill being a burst short range that's actually have a weird sp cost

[plucky flint]

OK that's fair reason for me

[supple ice]

I just wanted to make sure that she can do something. There are other good looking ones laying around.

[plucky flint]

She definitely can do something

Just other ops does better

With less resources

[vernal lion]

^

Melanite s2 test

[livid delta]

Looks p good

[plucky flint]

2.7k 1 tile burst for a 15 sp cost doesn't look appealing to me

[supple ice]

Are any of these do a better job than her?

[vernal lion]

the reason why Lee because with s3 he can stall lane, so that's the thing

[plucky flint]

Pinecone looks good if u want aoe burst short range

[jovial nest]

yeah I'm still not using Lee in laning either way

[livid delta]

Maybe I should build my melanite

[supple ice]

Aye I guess she will do

[plucky flint]

Just use pinecone s1, don't touch s2 unless u know what you're doing

[vernal lion]

it's not max level, I just test % dmg in that time tho

[livid delta]

Promote shirayuki and vermeil

[supple ice]

Noted

[vernal lion]

max Melanite, with atk and talent pot, with mod, can hit up to this dmg

so it's pretty good for enemy with 800 def and below

higher means you need more s2 charge to kill enemy

due to their def and hp stat

this one is pretty good for enemy with 800 def and 10000 hp

I think she will be good use with centurion guard

[supple ice]

That's some math

[vernal lion]

arknights is always math

[supple ice]

I struggled to take the traffic tower in the challenge stages where he's buffed

[jovial nest]

Moduled or not?

Sometimes i'm just surprised how much Lin's shield ignores damage

[vernal lion]

mod

[jovial nest]

Thats noted. Data blocks are a bit low so i will take my time with this one

[glass monolith]

It gets even better when you realize that shield activated AFTER damage reduction

[vernal lion]

this looks ass ngl tho

[dusty osprey]

Why kirsten p1 keep passing my saria ? Im on ex8

[vernal lion]

each star ring gives her +1 block

[glass monolith]

1 ball = 1 more block needed to stop Karen

[dusty osprey]

Ohhh I seee, damnit

[jovial nest]

Oh no goddamn wonder. So her naturally good defensive stats as a Phalanx carries her shield block

[dusty osprey]

Is the ball chained in order or rng ?

[vernal lion]

furthest from her, if she's between 2 balls, then from left > right

[jovial nest]

Just kill phase 1 asap

Its difficult to keep up with stars in phase 1

[dusty osprey]

Yeah, but I need to timing it and also manage my dp

Wrong ball location locked and I fucked up

[vernal lion]

Surtr with 1 buff can do most of the job

[vernal lynx]

so im at ex8 fighting kristen
ik the left lane strat is to put a pusher to stall the enemies away, but what about when kristen dies?

the ball on top left falls and enemies get a brand new shiny lane to go through
how do ppl handle that

[tidal sedge]

well i was doing good on my own until that happened

[vernal lynx]

im also doing pretty good until everyone starts leaking

[tidal sedge]

painge

[supple widget]

Please help me lol

Trying to get to s5-9 abnormality 1 for kalstit mat

[vernal lion]

the 7th time I upload this

[somber robin]

get lappland in there for the drone in the top left. even lvl 1 is fine as u only need the debuff. then plop down exu to get rid of the drones

anything aoe for the slugs in the beginning. liskarm s2 probably works. if it doesn't try out 12F cuz that's how i did it back then

[supple widget]

12f?

[dusty osprey]

Hows this possibles?

[verbal sparrow]

balding

[vernal lynx]

o