strategy

[jovial nest]

either way

the thing is

based on my experiences with SSS

[deft badger]

25 in total but i don't think thats enough 😄

[jovial nest]

Gnosis with a bit of ASPD can freeze

but enemies still move well

unless ASPD is really high

[glass monolith]

SN has freeze duration

[jovial nest]

SN alone makes Gnosis so good

[deft badger]

why do u know what i wanted to write right now 😄

[jovial nest]

cause of that passive rhoomba

[deft badger]

wanted to say let me go to SN and see how much that thing gives lol

[jovial nest]

SN rhoomba is so broken

that it allows Beanstalk iirc to have an immortal blocker

this applies to all Tacticians too, right?

[loud heath]

Roomba vs Car who wins

[jovial nest]

Car

anything that Silvergun loves immediately wins

shows how much an event mechanic carries

[neat skiff]

Tacticians love it, trapmasters hate it.

They block and kill mines before they detonate.

[jovial nest]

hahahhahah

oh yeah

SN rerun hasn't happened yet

damn

I'm getting excited

[neat skiff]

It should be next 😄

[jovial nest]

we have Tex2 and Ya2 now

[pallid bone]

tbh i like ideal city cars better

[jovial nest]

more Tacticians

[main halo]

Goodbye bitch

[loud heath]

next is pinchout

[pallid bone]

cuz you can like build tracks for them

i especially like the minigame

[spark sinew]

8 more stages remaining

[deft badger]

s1 is a option but what they are frozen for like 1sec

not even

[main halo]

EX-8 CM is gonna be a pain in the ass

[deft badger]

in that one s1 mlynar will be in animation to hit or eyja ball flying to the target lol

[main halo]

Most of my DPS comes from guards

[loud heath]

gl at cw s 4 cm

[spark sinew]

mlynar still 100% worth including
but yeah it's a pain

[deft badger]

borrow kal

[jovial nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1069881488662863912/image.png?ex=656ed0c8&is=655c5bc8&hm=c2a6703e9ceff204f0822df1a79d55685b6260bba48bad778b4239c9df6efbce&

I love IC

[deft badger]

i don't even wanna know what that is xD

[neat skiff]

That anni was delightfully weird.

[jovial nest]

it's called my country's traffic carrying that event

[pallid bone]

illegally modified honda civic running through midgets

[jovial nest]

Daewoo

[deft badger]

hahahahaha

of all cars honda civic, i don't remember the last time i saw one

[jovial nest]

of course they'd make the IC boss a goddamn flying one

cause if it ain't, cars would wreck it unless they made it unfun like a Surfer boss

[glass monolith]

Who can be soloed by Pozy after which he gets bodied bycars to death

[main halo]

I have Kal

[deft badger]

then use kal + mlynar

[main halo]

Hey I remember that one

[pallid bone]

hmm im a bit confused about mr.nothing x erato stall. So erato one is clear. She just uses her s1. Mr. Nothing uses his s2, right?

or is it s1 for mr.nothing?

[deft badger]

@main halo do u have weedy btw? e1 at least

[main halo]

Haven’t raised her

[deft badger]

well e1 is cheap 😄

like 50k lmd don't know how much xp

[main halo]

The lightsabers guys are pretty damn lightweight

[jovial nest]

the only thing you need is for Nothing's talent to trigger iirc

the one wherein if he doesn't attack long enough, he stuns the next target

[neat skiff]

^

[pallid bone]

ah I see

[glass monolith]

Erato alone stall need shit ton of SP (need to generate additional 5.2 SP in 3.8 seconds for it to 100% uptime) to perma stall, but balls is free 3 SP to Liskarm so yes.

[pallid bone]

erato's 5s sleep wil trigger mr. nothing's 5s stun

[neat skiff]

Mr. Nothing with tier 3 module combos with Erato for infinite stall (as long as no -SP fuckery).

[pallid bone]

this assumes that the enemy can be stunned

[neat skiff]

Yes.

But most ops cannot attack sleeping enemies.

[pallid bone]

yea it's purely for stalling

[glass monolith]

Krist is proof of WHY you need resistances on boss

[unkempt lintel]

ahh yeas finally im done with cw s 4.... thats a rough battle

[pallid bone]

you still have 2 mechas coming to left side

[glass monolith]

My Texas alter boss was:
Kill phase 1.
Boss is immortal for like 15 seconds.
Eunectes S2 choke him for 15 seconds.
Kill phase 2.

[spark sinew]

you might still wipe to two mechs yeah
although surtr should just kill

[pallid bone]

well don't let the mecha touch surtr

[unkempt lintel]

i just surtr it... and just to be safe, with ifrit coz she is in s3

[pallid bone]

they can stun

[deft badger]

he isn't that pusher can push them till tomorrow XD

[pallid bone]

wouldn't want 2-star after going this far

[unkempt lintel]

i have gladiia to pull, which is rly rly rly neat

[deft badger]

or the hell that s- is there

[neat skiff]

So Erato sleeps for 5 seconds, Mr. Nothing stuns for 5 seconds as soon as the enemy wakes up, Erato S1 then recharges to sleep again.

[deft badger]

but surtr

[unkempt lintel]

but man that was pain....i think i burn 100+ sanity

[deft badger]

thats skadi actually 😄

[spark sinew]

oh damn no pushers

hardcore

[unkempt lintel]

i rly want to borrow weedy coz of what strats i see here, but i guess i rly need surtr to spawn kill kristen

that gladiia there, cant survive a ball + kristen in p2

[deft badger]

don't u have mlynar?

[fringe jackal]

my surtr keeps getting stunned by the gundams

is it because I can't drop her on top of them?

[deft badger]

u do so whats the problem? 😄

[deft badger]

its because u drop her in the same tile

[fringe jackal]

thanks I'm a dumbass, at least now I will avoid

[neat skiff]

Melee gundams will punch and stun whoever is blocking them for a while.

[fringe jackal]

what there are differences between the gundams

[neat skiff]

From memory the stun is 10 seconds on a 19 second cooldown.

[fringe jackal]

I need to pay more attention

[neat skiff]

Were you here for Dorothys event?

[fringe jackal]

no

oh I see, no wonder I had so many problems

[neat skiff]

So.
Melee gundams = punch and stun with heavy damage.
Shooty gundams = shoot 5 ops in range unless blocked.

[fringe jackal]

just saw on the wiki

thanks khold

[spark sinew]

you can push them all into one place and surtr/mlynar them

[fringe jackal]

what's the radius for the shooty gundam?

[neat skiff]

Big.

[fringe jackal]

ahh

[neat skiff]

From memory it's like 5 tiles.

[fringe jackal]

damn

[neat skiff]

Maybe 6.

[south bone]

half the map maybe

[spark sinew]

although anything outside of weedy's cannon and phantom will have hard time only pushing them one time and then retreating

[fringe jackal]

that's why I saw in that video they pushed away a specific gundam, so it was probably the shooty one so it couldn't target weedy

[south bone]

yea

[fringe jackal]

damn

[unkempt lintel]

well the safest place for ranged gundam is the farthest tile in top left, and i think the rest is in range of at least one ranged gundam

[fringe jackal]

thanks

[unkempt lintel]

i do see some guides pushing gundams to make some safe tiles... esp to those who bring weedy

[tropic valve]

my Lin is fine on CM

level 80 mod3

takes 0 damage from rockets during skill

[neat skiff]

Module stage 1 is pretty crucial.

[unkempt lintel]

yeah she take no dmg in gundam rockets... l60 mod3

[tropic valve]

but yes I also like pushing mechas into defenders using weedy cannon

[fringe jackal]

yeah, I think I'm gonna have to analyse this in ark map

[tropic valve]

pushing them into Blemi is nice

Blemi can use them as healing fodder

as for star rings, Ceobe and Schwarz can 1-cycle them

[unkempt lintel]

i just group 2 gundams with gladiia below the mid tile, and then place surtr above the mid tile and then boom no more ranged gundam

[jovial nest]

i love how Ceobe does so much immediate damage to those Defender guys that need multiple hits to weaken simply because her damage scales to how high their initial DEF are

just normal attacks are enough sometimes

[unkempt lintel]

i wanna bring ceobe earlier, but i think r7 will not cut it, and she doesnt have module yet

[neat skiff]

Yeah, her module is a big boost in her damage.

[glass monolith]

Module stage 2 or go home

[weak gazelle]

this one are even weaker than previous map
didnt even try to push them to holes

[jovial nest]

the alpha version's harder

just cause of the blue box placement

and how close the spawn is from it

[south bone]

well i've seen people push the ball to make the enemies change route

on right lane

[weak gazelle]

s 1 map just literally tanking and spanking
arts dps right side
phys left side and done

[pallid bone]

huh weird. I tried this again and she didn't die
U're right. Maybe another melee mecha intersected with my Lin and killed her

[glass monolith]

Probably something caused Lin to drop shield and while it is down she won't regain it for next 8 seconds or so

Unless you kill something in S3 which instantly regains it

[dry musk]

Hi I bought the 6 star selector which caster do u recommend

[ocean bear]

what do u have rn?

[neat skiff]

Goldenglow.

If you already have her, who are you missing.

[ocean bear]

so...

[neat skiff]

Then yes, GoldenGlow.

[ocean bear]

u need a main DPS I guess

[jovial nest]

0 6*?

[ocean bear]

yeah, just not any boss killer

[neat skiff]

S1 for single target damage, S2 for more of an AoE option, S3 for global range.

[dry musk]

So goldenglow will benefit me better

[ocean bear]

or any supporter other than summon

[neat skiff]

The closest competitor is Eyjafjalla.

[ocean bear]

Eyjafalla is hybrid so it's a good idea

[dry musk]

Passenger is not an option

[ocean bear]

she can act as main DPS and boss killer

[neat skiff]

Passenger is pretty meh until you invest in him.

[ocean bear]

Eyjafalla

she is useful most of the gameplay

[dry musk]

Eyjafalla is in there bleu banner so I can save pulls for here later

The*

[neat skiff]

Eyja needs at least E1.

[ocean bear]

E2 her and focus on her S2

until M3

then focus to M3 for her S3

you will not regret for it

[neat skiff]

I have both Eyja and GG M6 and use both quite frequently. Especially GG S2.

[dry musk]

I want a new operator as the old ones are in the kerlen banner which is nota a problem in the future

Not a

I will go for GG

I guess

Anyway Ty guys

[ocean bear]

i guess it's a good idea because of her S2

for lane holding

[fluid fulcrum]

Help me with CW 8 CM 🥲

I cant

[ocean bear]

????

borrow yato

with her S2

[fluid fulcrum]

Use it for what tho

[ocean bear]

hit the ball and hit the elites to death

[fluid fulcrum]

Well i mean i tried and the ball too stronk

[ocean bear]

it's depends on how many hit i guess

but yeah

it's tanky

maybe u should do the mission

[fluid fulcrum]

Ok look

I cleared all of the case investigations

I have yato 90 M3

And yet i cant

[ocean bear]

S2?

[fluid fulcrum]

Yes

Like bruh how

Not worried about kristen but her Phase 2 really got me

[ocean bear]

Show me what u have

[fluid fulcrum]

Oh wait

There will be a rerun right?

If so then i might do it later

Ok ok i had enough of CW for now i might tempt it later

Anyways thx for the advices

[ocean bear]

Kal'sit

Wendy s2

[deft badger]

who the hell is wendy

[pallid bone]

weedy but throws fast food instead

[polar crane]

lone trail is in intermezzi after event so you can do it whenever

[weak gazelle]

guess i will stop for today
maps not fun to play

[jovial nest]

hahahah the opposite of what we used to do

[void river]

she unblockable? what lol

[neat skiff]

She has 1 block by default. Each stellar ring adds +1 block.

With all 4 rings active she needs 5 block.

[void river]

.... wow

it sucks

[neat skiff]

It's also mentioned in game.

[void river]

where

to beat boss you need to read a word file

kek

nah bro

[neat skiff]

"Every 'star ring' grants Kristen +1 block count and reduces damage recieved"

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfmp7o9bo7Y&ab_channel=pard파드

you know, the morse code is the name of stage

[boreal magnet]

man last stages is gundam shit

open map scares me

[vernal lion]

I like open map

it's more relistic

[neat skiff]

Depends on the open map.

[void river]

I read it a week ago. I get it, thx

[neat skiff]

Cool.

[vernal lion]

you do feel like Kristen is kinda like Free boss

in a similar way

[void river]

free?

[void river]

Ling dragos? cool

[vernal lion]

it's DUSK dragon

have you ever known?

[void river]

who's dusk

[vernal lion]

[void river]

how I know if I don't have her

[vernal lion]

acting as boss of WR, and become playable op

[neat skiff]

"Who is real" event in side story.

[void river]

she was a boss? lol

[vernal lion]

she and Free count as 2 enemies in WR boss stage

but you only need to beat Free

[void river]

so weak

[vernal lion]

just play S stages, smh

[void river]

S stages?

[neat skiff]

S stages are unlocked a week after EX stages.

They're typically anniversary event only.

[void river]

why? im on ex rn

[neat skiff]

Normal stages are available right away.
EX stages unlock 1 week after normal.
S are 1 week after EX.

At the moment everyone has all the stages available,.

[latent anvil]

naga halp

im skill issue rn

[vernal lion]

no, you don't

[jovial nest]

S-4 will have to wait for tomorrow.

[void river]

gl I guess but I'm on EX

3-5 tries

lazy

shit boss shit mechanic

[neat skiff]

Well fuck you to then. Use google next time you have a question.

[void river]

I was doing EX8, guy told me about S

why

[void river]

u2

[late apex]

if i use muelsyse's water droplet thingy mainly in its melee form,should i m3 her s2 or s3?

[neat skiff]

S2 = 5% regen.
S3 = while skill is active, stun everyone being blocked.

[vernal lion]

mini Eun s2

[neat skiff]

Though, being truthful. For melee clones S2 masteries are way more valuable.

S2 = From 3% to 5% regen and 20% to 25% shelter.
S3 = +35% to +50% atk.

Then skill cycling.

[late apex]

thankyou!!!

[storm current]

eh

i feel mixed about using s2 for melee clone

cuz at that point, you are playing glorified vulcan

[neat skiff]

Yeah, mixed but not "actively bad".

[storm current]

its

weird choice

cuz s3 feel better

cuz 15s stun

or just s3, for 15s bind

[neat skiff]

Like, I can absolutely see use cases for it. Especially since it steals attack from enemies.

[storm current]

its

a weird choice

cuz wouldnt it be better to like

use s3 to tank a group of enemies

[neat skiff]

S2 ranged is the raw dps winner.

[late apex]

i have a caster bias so i have like 3 casters+reedalter on my team 😭😭😭😭 i just copy mudrock for the clone so its a 3 block unit for just like 12dp

[storm current]

not exactly

it shoot 2

but it doesnt summon other clone

so s3 is still better in practice, since it summon up all clone

and still work even if the main clone die

[neat skiff]

Yeah, if you want raw laneholding and not much else Mudrock + S2 is pretty gucci.

[storm current]

eh

personally i prob just use range clone to hold lane at that point

they are good at holding lane, unless enemies need 2+ block

[neat skiff]

Congratulations. They asked the direct opposite.

[storm current]

oh uh ye

is s2 really that much better than s3 for melee lane holder tho

because 75% heal every 50s

vs 15s stun

if during off skill time, you can force retreat the clone to full heal after 25s

[late apex]

but there wont be any laneholding after being retreated though 😢

[neat skiff]

Each skill has its upsides and downsides.

[storm current]

it mostly feel like a waste of opportunity

[neat skiff]

S2 is more about keeping the clone alive and kicking. In return masteries focus on that.
S3 is about the stun. In return masteries are still as expensive but only give +15% more attack.

If all you care about is the stun then masteries are only changing a 55s cycle to a 50s cycle.

[late apex]

im just using muelsyse for laneholding coz all my other units are literally just for dpsing

and dp printing of course

[storm current]

its prob fine ye

cuz cloned mudrock is still tanky

[neat skiff]

DP printing is Muelsyses weakest aspect.

[storm current]

well

at least she give all dp right away

[late apex]

oh😭

[storm current]

instead of gradually printing

i dont like the slow dp

[neat skiff]

Muelsyse is like Bagpipe. The DP is a nice bonus but not the reason you bring them.

[late apex]

well having a 12dp 3 block op right at the start of the game is pretty beneficial for me

[neat skiff]

It's super beneficial for many people.

[late apex]

thats just the reason why i use her😭😭😭

[storm current]

ye it will be fine

altho what im interesting to see is later on when they will add more archetype to clone for

like 6* loopshooter

[neat skiff]

665 attack and an attack interval of 1 second. Her range will be crazy for the clones.

[celest bluff]

Wake up
Mumu banner is gone
Fuck-

[neat skiff]

Meanwhile Coldshot is a smidge under 1000 with an interval of 1.6, but ifrit range had a baby with lord guards.

[storm current]

hunter and loopshooter both have negative trait

[late apex]

move on and save up for eyjaalter

[storm current]

i wonder if they add them intentionally for cloning

its a weird set up you know

[neat skiff]

Doubt it. More just adding types that aren't guards for once.

[storm current]

instead of like
"gain benefit when X condition"
its
"negative effect when condition"

like loopshooter doesnt attack faster when close
they attack slower when far

[latent monolith]

Wait why did 3 people send me a friend request earlier today

[storm current]

altho ig hunter has 120% atk scale

uh in game?

[neat skiff]

The negative is more like "due to how they function +aspd and -aspd have minimal effects on them".

[storm current]

or discord

[latent monolith]

did some cc post a video that used lee/lappland in a guide

[storm current]

prob

[neat skiff]

Lee is super popular this event.

[storm current]

lee weedy and eyja get a lot of request

[neat skiff]

In the stages with -5 weight he yeets enemies.

[storm current]

mlynar is so popular so no one need to add friend lol

[late apex]

i will forever hold a grudge on lee for coming home and not ling

[latent monolith]

ig yeah that's fair

[waxen swan]

Lee kinda based tho

[latent monolith]

I'll swap silence alter to weedy too and farm max friends I'm already at 50 so I kinda have to turn some down

[storm current]

i dont turn down friend

i just delete the old one

[latent monolith]

Yeah but everyone in my fl is active so it feels bad either way

[storm current]

because half of my friendlist are added for support units anyway

[latent monolith]

I don't really add people for the support units, I just put lee during cc9 and the support units came to me

[storm current]

today i got 3 request for weedy s2

so yea

[latent monolith]

50 friend cap is kinda cringe

[waxen swan]

Ur cringe

[latent monolith]

I'm finally sitting down to do EX 6+ so is there anything specific to keep in mind

[storm current]

uh not really

no medal require specific stage clear

you can just brute force through EX and S

[neat skiff]

It's basically just the investigation.

[versed arrow]

ex 8 cm is triple cost guard defender so you can keep that in mind when you do normal stage so you mald less

[latent monolith]

ye I'm still not sure what I want to do there

blue woman abuse ig?

[storm current]

uh

pozy suzu nuke is pretty effective

weedy is strong enough to hold lane by herself too

[latent monolith]

Does it work thorough the DR in P2?

[storm current]

no

nothing does

unless like

aak + mlynar

the dmg reduction is like ~80%

[latent monolith]

I mean I can definitely do like aak mlynar suzu

[storm current]

apply to true dmg

[latent monolith]

[ancient hearth]

Eyja and Lin cheese the defender blobs in EX 8, you can just whittle down the star rings one by one and kill Kristen last.

[latent monolith]

Which lane for weedy?

[storm current]

left lane

in EX 8

left lane has light saber

[versed arrow]

left if you use her, s2 is good i heard

[storm current]

right lane has rocket

[latent monolith]

Does S2L7 work or do I really need M3 for it

[storm current]

idk

you have to try it yourself

cuz i didnt use weedy for EX8

and my weedy is m3 already so i wouldnt know

[ancient hearth]

SL7 works even in S 4

[versed arrow]

lvl7 should be enough since there is the investigation bonus

[ancient hearth]

Yeets the armors into the middle of map

[versed arrow]

I have seen someone use mostima on that map and yeet the enemy to the other side of the ball and the mob walk into the blue box, it was kinda funny

[storm current]

-5 weight shenanigan

you can shift mech

[glass monolith]

CW: We shift mech
DV/POO: Mech shift our brains out of skulls

[versed arrow]

s3a was kinda fun, the cars die by themselves I only have to kill the middle lane enemies

[agile pond]

Are 6* ops the only ones with 3 skills?

[glass monolith]

Amiya ate so much rock she evolved to have 5 skills

[neat skiff]

Except for Amiya, yes.

[agile pond]

Cool ty

[neat skiff]

Looking at new CC, I still want a guerilla shieldguard to become an op. could even be our first male 6 star defender.

[glass monolith]

You want them to be OP. I want to see man who buffed those stealth shits to degree they 2 shot shield guard

[neat skiff]

We haven't had a new meatball tank since Nian.

[storm current]

And they delete hoshi/crossant/liskarm from standard too

So now if newbie want a good tank

They need to pull jessic

[glass monolith]

[celest bluff]

Wait we haven't got a 6 star male defender?

[neat skiff]

Nope.

No male 6 star sniper either.

[glass monolith]

Literally in 2-3 events

This guy with silent pistol

Who is 5* version of 3* not-Kroos sniper or something

[neat skiff]

Insider is a 5 star Adnachiel?

[glass monolith]

His skill is focus ranged enemies, wasn't it?

It is Talent for Adnachiel which i didn't knew about till i leaked fucking dog

[neat skiff]

Ahh, true.

But yeah, we have several male 5 star snipers, but no 6 star.

[glass monolith]

In true EU fashion i discover about Taunt/Specific targeting only when it fucking fails stage to me

[neat skiff]

At least Insider is way more powerful.

[glass monolith]

Challenge, difficulty impossible: Design sniper nobody will use

[sharp swallow]

Does Monstr count as an operator who can change the Realigned Flux?

[glass monolith]

Didn't cope summons in LE event

[versed arrow]

monster is summon, not op. its counts as ally tho for ally related skills

[neat skiff]

Yes he does.

[glass monolith]

Realigned Flux is LE lazer thing i think. Not gravity button

[versed arrow]

that is switch, flux is the beam thing in anni, it does not. Someone tried it already.

[neat skiff]

Mon3tr is facing down, no laser change.

[gritty eagle]

what the fuck is CW-S-4 AND WHY DOES IT HAVE A CM STAGE GUYS WHAT DO I DO CHAT

[glass monolith]

You do galaxy abuse moment

[vernal lion]

funny supporter spam

[celest bluff]

No

[celest bluff]

CW-S-1 to 3 is already challenge mode what are you on about

It cost 20 sanity instead of 21

And with challenge modifier

[glass monolith]

[Singing check failed] Let him cope, let him cope

[versed arrow]

good thing i didnt check that option

[celest bluff]

I am unable to click on the survey lino

Link

[gritty eagle]

I MEANT WHY IS THE HARDEST STAGE HAVE THE CM

[celest bluff]

Dude

[glass monolith]

H9-6 CM

[celest bluff]

Everything is already CM, but now you have the option to do it or not

This is still the best text channel in the server

[neat skiff]

Y'all remember DH-S-4-CM? Back when it had the literal highest def in the game. Fun times.

[celest bluff]

What is DH stand for again

[glass monolith]

Now it is not even marked as elite enemy sometimes

[neat skiff]

Dossoles holiday.

[glass monolith]

Chalter event 2 years ago anniv

[neat skiff]

gotta love enemy stat creep XD

Global anniversary has never been new player friendly and the next one is very much following that trend.

[celest bluff]

I kinda hate how broken chalter is compared to other sniper or even caster

[neat skiff]

The fact she relies on double hits means non elite enemies having 2000 def hurts.

[glass monolith]

IC was super friendly outside Mr. Crabs

[neat skiff]

IC was "use the car mechanic or suffer".

Stuns and frozen and healing and SP.

While also ignoring 100% phys dodge.

[glass monolith]

took me like 10 days to get freeze part

[neat skiff]

The EX stages were rough, the S stages were actively painful.

[glass monolith]

IC-9 (or was it 10?) Pozy + Gladiia to spawn kill boss.
EX - Pozy + Shamare + Warf to spawn kill boss
S - Pozy, Shamare, Warf, Gladiia, Fartooth

[neat skiff]

That is exclusively the boss. Nothing else.

[glass monolith]

everything else is some BS car set up

For EX you just have to block 4 crabs before they walk into cars and then healing module and you don't care

[gritty eagle]

i want the medal

[glass monolith]

Okay Lobsters, Crabs are shorter

[neat skiff]

So long adele isn't going to be fun for people actually looking for help.

Would not surprise me if someone already has a copy-paste of the boss mechanics ready.

[vernal lion]

truly support squad

[crisp bolt]

that's actually what I plan to do myself

[glass monolith]

Most common cause of death: Frisbie into face

[sharp swallow]

Does offensive recovery get affected by natural sp reductions?

If I leave Irene out of the Realigned Flux, could she still build her ability fast?

[glass monolith]

No, but we had CC risk with increased amount of SP to activate skill

[sharp swallow]

In an annihilation tho and anything else, you’re good to go? (Except for enemies having the double attack)

[vernal lion]

dude, this boss sucks

almost killed him lol

[little fractal]

Thanks for the advice from the homies after last night, unfortunately I'm put of practices and went through 300 sanity today, CW-EX-8 remains unbeaten after a grand total of 130 tries across 3 days. I don't think I can beat it without meta ops I don't have, or have built, but like, I really do appreciate the advice. Good luck everyone

[neat skiff]

the lil cat ears ❤️

[acoustic crescent]

Is it possible to complete the investigation mission for cw 10 with my squad using an op support unit ? I did get 3 stars with Texas alter but I cannot complete the mission

[neat skiff]

Zero idea why but cat ears on hazmat suits always brings a smile to my face.

[vernal lion]

the mission wants you to beat Kristen asap before she turned more than 5 balls to stars

[neat skiff]

Oh, right. Legit forgot the mission.

Beat phase 1 in 69 seconds or under.

[acoustic crescent]

Yeah

[neat skiff]

At the 70 second mark she summons the 6th star ring.

[vernal lion]

just borrow Kirin Yato

all skills work lol

s1, s2 or s3

[neat skiff]

Kirin R Yato is a specialist.

[acoustic crescent]

Is kirin better than Texas alter ?

[neat skiff]

Texas alter you want S2. Kirin any skill works.

Texas is mostly on S3.

[acoustic crescent]

I tried with texas and I couldnt do it Texas she cannot block the boss,so I have to retreat and resummon

[vernal lion]

yes, it is

that's how you use Executor Specialist

[sharp swallow]

If Monstr is incapable of changing the direction of it, then why does Beanstalk’s crab seem to be affected by it? Is it just a thing where they’re affected, but cannot change direction?

[vernal lion]

lmao

that's Beanstalk tho

[acoustic crescent]

Ok thanks

[latent monolith]

Summons can be affected but not change the direction of the lasers yea, it has to be an op

[sick mountain]

summons don't change directions

[neat skiff]

Beanstalk crab also can't change direction.

[vernal lion]

and tactician summon doesn't have direct direction to deploy like Ling dragon or Scene bot

[sharp swallow]

So Monstr would get the protection if put in the beam just like the crab?

[neat skiff]

Get protection, but won't change direction.

[sharp swallow]

Ty, sorry for repetitive questions

[neat skiff]

Nah, it's all good.

[vernal lion]

the reason why summon can't change the direction because they can't listen to music

[neat skiff]

Now the question, will the main Muelsyse summon change the direction since it is a token that actually gains SP.

I can't find out for another hour due to no sanity.

[vernal lion]

good one, let's try that

[neat skiff]

I figure there has got to be some spaghetti somewhere.

[vernal lion]

looks like not working

[neat skiff]

No spaghet for is 😦

[crisp bolt]

I'm done with this stupid fight

I kept accidentally killing myself because rat too strong

panicked hard at the end

[vernal lion]

it's truly CW-S-4

[tidal sedge]

Im on CW-EX-8 and not doing well

[gleaming lodge]

Morse code in my brain free gacha game ?!!

[visual cove]

[vernal lion]

HG big brain game company

[neat skiff]

Wait, did China really use English morse code on CN servers?

[vernal lion]

I believe you can only use morse code for latin word

[neat skiff]

"Characters without accents"

[crisp bolt]

there's no way I'm doing the cm

[polar crane]

why not they did the "a new age is upon us'

[neat skiff]

True.

[tidal sedge]

Can i get some advice on CW-EX-8 Normal?

[vernal lion]

my advice for all Kristen boss stages is, kill Kristen p1 asap

[neat skiff]

Are you having issues with the boss or the enemies?

[tidal sedge]

Mostly the enemies and the rings

Bc i get to a point i cant put frds down

[vernal lion]

lacking DP or what else

[tidal sedge]

I hit the deployment cap

[polar crane]

you didn't use ling do you

[tidal sedge]

I dont have her

[polar crane]

I vaguely remember that weedy with s2 can solo the left side

[tidal sedge]

Also do not have

[vernal lion]

what is your roster

[tidal sedge]

Ones that are somewhat built

[vernal lion]

you really wasted resource tho

[cyan gorge]

A krooster would've been easier to sort through

[tidal sedge]

Ill do it soon.

[glass monolith]

Wait there are no S CM?

[cyan gorge]

Just on S-4

[glass monolith]

[tidal sedge]

I didnt know, ok?

[cyan gorge]

S-4 was fun ngl

Cm condition wasn't too bad

[vernal lion]

you're just on normal?

[tidal sedge]

Yes

[sharp swallow]

I’ve been having difficulty with placements here, I’ve used Gg, Beanstalk, and Kalt to make a protective shield surrounding my units, and I’ve also managed to slip in Beezwax for the array of casters, but I don’t really know how to deal with the Remnant Violinists

It seems I’d have to break my link, and in order to do that, the splash probably will wreck me

[tidal sedge]

👍

[vernal lion]

at the end, you can do this

[tidal sedge]

Wait...lol

[vernal lion]

but I think your squad is just enough to beat the stage

[tidal sedge]

Its not the operaters...
Im just dumb lol

[glass monolith]

Almost did 2-A blind first try no ball

[tidal sedge]

Saria skill 2?

[vernal lion]

s1

[tidal sedge]

Ah

Cool, i think i have that at m2

[sharp swallow]

I had to build back my typical setup

[vernal lion]

the beewax tile is the deadly tile tho

[sharp swallow]

I put her there to tank

I didn’t want Kalt being lit up

[latent anvil]

arent there slugs behind

or not

[vernal lion]

but can she tank 8 casters at once

[sharp swallow]

Gg got the slugs

[sharp swallow]

So it’s a bad idea to put anyone there?

[vernal lion]

that's why I said it's the deadly tile

[tidal sedge]

Any ideas who to borrow/bring with this set up?

[fast basin]

Weedy s2 is nice to hold left lane

[tidal sedge]

...and shes not popping up in support.
sigh

[fast basin]

I think any pusher is fine? Idrk tho, havent tried other pushers

[glass monolith]

Oh no. 3-A is bloodknight accident

[cyan gorge]

3-A is funny

[tidal sedge]

Ive been using Shaw

Hecc

[glass monolith]

How the fuck one even counters GAIN defense on hit

I managed to kill him once somehow and he just oneshot Nearl (defender)

[vernal lion]

@tidal sedge you can refer my guide

this is CM btw

[cyan gorge]

I used dropped Suzu + Quibai and he blew up

[glass monolith]

But i am no 6*

[cyan gorge]

[tidal sedge]

Arrggggh

So close

[vernal lion]

wish if I can silence that thing not just the explosion but the dude won't come out and end up dying there too

[tidal sedge]

[glass monolith]

Leveled Tuye for Pozy TP fiesta. Carry stages with his/her ass

[tidal sedge]

Tuye is a she iirc

[cosmic thicket]

Just uh
Firewatch s2 warf :Clueless:

[glass monolith]

Damn 3-B summoned mini boss so early i was ready for second appear mid stage or something

Also Hypergryph please uncap Puzzle S2 stacking

[vernal lion]

deploy 4 block defender, and a silencer

[naive oar]

okay i tried cw s 1 a

wtf

dear god wtf

how

[cyan gorge]

Use the ball

[glass monolith]

Move ball to right, then left, then up, and god have mercy on your soul if they manage to get ball down again

[naive oar]

right then left?

huh?

[glass monolith]

You can't deploy on their right

[cyan gorge]

I just bounced ball back and forth on the bottom with Shaw + FEater

[glass monolith]

And so far all my pullers pretended ball didn't exist

[cyan gorge]

Horn did the rest

[naive oar]

me when no pushers and pullers

[glass monolith]

That's 1-B, i think. 1-A is blue boxes on side

[cyan gorge]

Oh 1-A

[naive oar]

yep

[cyan gorge]

that's the cringe one

[naive oar]

ye

[glass monolith]

My solution was cringe one

[cyan gorge]

I think I had Kal and Eyja on right, then threw literally everything else I have at left

[vernal lion]

500 def, so good

[naive oar]

I HATE KNOCKBACK

ARGH

[glass monolith]

Okay, S-4 unlocked. Time to drop this stupid mee-mee-mee no 6*s and go balls

[naive oar]

THE BALL JUST KNOCKED A GUY DIRECTLY INTO MY BLUE BOX

[glass monolith]

SKILL ISSUE

[naive oar]

fucking hell these maps seem impossible without really niche units

and extreme amounts of early dp

[glass monolith]

S stands for "which Suka design this?"

[naive oar]

oh god damnit fuck this

if the first map without cm is already like this

im out

i aint doing this shit

[glass monolith]

Best part - It is not even half bad compared to 3

[naive oar]

yeah screw this

[glass monolith]

[naive oar]

for what would i do this pain? some medals and some funny rocks i can buy for 5 euro instead?

nah

im gonna play some tactics ogre

[visual cove]

[naive oar]

okay fuck tactics ogre, the enemies reflect more damage than i do

im gonna play some arknights

[vernal lion]

1 last plan of the day

have some fun in H12-4

[cyan gorge]

Imo 1-A is the second hardest S stage behind S-4 cm

[glass monolith]

Still took me less than A-3

[naive oar]

still doubt i can do this without hours of pain ngl

[glass monolith]

On S-4 after 3.5 hours. No fun/10 will do CM

[ancient hearth]

Doesn’t borrowing any leveled stalker making it significantly easier?

Makes managing the center a joke.

As long as you can get the ball to create a longer path for one of the sides.

[patent vortex]

is it possible to do cw 9 and cw 10 investigation challanges without 6*?(i only have excusiai and chen)

[ancient hearth]

Which creates a massive Ifrit lane if you can hold it

[vernal lion]

yes

[patent vortex]

and it is for me to figure out(I mean no guides on youtube)

[glass monolith]

I did no 6* all way to EX-8 CM, and S-4

Spoiler. Shamare, S1M3 Manticore and other shit was present

[ancient hearth]

Stalkers are gas until S-4

Then they fall off hard since placement is painful with that many balls

[cosmic thicket]

shining s1

[vernal lion]

imagine beating the stage with GG as your main DPS dealer

[cosmic thicket]

the surtr in the corner:

[vernal lion]

Surtr helped with p1, she's nice too

Surtr and Suzu can solo Kristen p1 in CM too

there are good placements for them

[glass monolith]

NOoooooooooooooo Fuck this game why there is another ranged robot

[tidal sedge]

God. Damn. It.

[ancient hearth]

Save Surtr for that one

[glass monolith]

What Surtr i fucking friend support Shining to survive starting 2 robotrololons

(Yes it is that bad)

[ancient hearth]

Got Texalter?

[glass monolith]

Ate ball and died

[vernal lion]

at this point, I think I will need Warf s2 for this too

[ancient hearth]

surtr can solo one of the first rocket gundams, and texalter takes 2-3 deploys to kill the other

last rocket gundam just save surtr for it

[glass monolith]

Fuck i need Weedy on left to stop 3 block cars from f everyone?

[ancient hearth]

or gg or ebenholz

[glass monolith]

GG WHICH TARGETS TAUNT BALLS

[ancient hearth]

usually I've killed kristen by the time the rockets come in

[glass monolith]

Oh boy i do something much stupider than that

[cosmic thicket]

How stupid of an idea is it to place GG against gravity to make her kill the balls slightly slower

[glass monolith]

Wait is final wave kill gated by robots?

[ancient hearth]

I think there is a killgate associated with one of the melee mechs that go to the left blue box

[vernal lion]

it's the one come out from top middle box

[glass monolith]

Fuck they all do

[cyan gorge]

Imagine tanking anything

Just Surtr one of bots, then set up for the other

[glass monolith]

Not my fault there is literally 1 tile safe from bots

[spark sinew]

you can surtr both of the bots, just cannon push one of them to the other

took awhile to realize that, even with the tooltip about reduced weight
didn't think it would be reduced that much

[ancient hearth]

That one bot weedy can stall forever as you kill Kristen

[glass monolith]

Fiiine fuck Naga i surtr it

[vernal lion]

you need 1 buff if you want to Surtr her

[ancient hearth]

The rocket bot?

[glass monolith]

Surtr Kris? Oh no she will have much worse fate

[vernal lion]

I think the easiest strat is Surtr Aak

but I use Suzu because I need to slow her down as much as possible

[runic pewter]

Lost all my braincells on cw-s-4cm and still havent cleared it

[spark sinew]

aak mlynar works as well for spawncamping phase 1

but you need a healer for mlynar
does surtr do it without?

[tropic valve]

I did Schwarz Suzu Eyja spawncamp phase 1 (also gets rid of several mechas)

then Lin Eyja for phase 2

gravity down whole time while Kristen is alive

after she dies you can switch to up, might be easier that way

[vernal lion]

yes Surtr can

she only needs 1 atk buff

you can helidrop Surtr without an issue

right on the robot

it's enough time to proc her skill before her hp reached to 1

[glass monolith]

Holy shit those delays on last enemies spawn

[tropic valve]

they were like, surely Kristen is still alive at this point

[glass monolith]

"Surely Doctor left and we can loot remains"

[glass monolith]

Unless i score fucking goal and cause ball ragdoll melee robot into Surtr!

I'm multistasking fuck ups at double speed

FUCK WHY IT CONSUMES 13 ON FAIL

[turbid badge]

l

[glass monolith]

I would like to say Jedi a fucking based

[ancient hearth]

man's losing it all at the last step

a true ak player

[glass monolith]

Best part i had EVERYTHING

all i needed is kill last 3 Jedi spawning before kill gate

But noooooooooooooo those overbuffed glue fuckers survives on 1 hp

[turbid badge]

mwynar op

[cyan gorge]

I spawncamped that map

[tropic valve]

kid named Weedy

[glass monolith]

She can't exist in 2 spots at once

[tropic valve]

I Weedy right lane because the jedis come in 3's there

left lane is more chill and a decent medic can outheal a jedi

[glass monolith]

Oh ho ho

I weedy left for some autism set up

[tropic valve]

I guess weedy left makes the melee mechas free

so it's a tradeoff

[solid dew]

is this on S-4?
i did the opposite because kill gating is fun
and surtr + mylnar go brrt of right anyway

[tropic valve]

we do a little trolling

[glass monolith]

Lost only once, which means i still wasted more sanity on EX-8 CM than S-4

[solid dew]

yea i used litterally the exact same strat for S-4 and S-4cm
EX-8cm i had to change my strat up quite a bit

[glass monolith]

My only change of strategy is bringing Gladiia and compressing Jedies who cost me 13 sanity iNTO FUCKING BALL

[tropic valve]

from S-4 to S-4-CM, main change was I had to delay popping the star rings a bit, because if two of them pop in quick succession and Nightingale also happens to get attacked by Kristen, she can die

[glass monolith]

Oh also i changed Ptilo placement because i realized i can face her up

[tropic valve]

it feels kinda bad to helidrop Eyja just to kill a single star ring, but then again there is plenty of time

[solid dew]

yea i did the same
i killed the balls too fast and my medics couldnt keep up

[foggy sparrow]

I keep getting fucked on CM-EX-8 kristen is just WAY too tanky + the strong minions makes laneholding super hard. anyone know if kalstit can consistently solo her in both phases with her true damage? I have her but shes low level

[glass monolith]

Her DR works against true damage.
Her DR when all ball up is 97.5% on CM.
Which equal to her having like 2.5m HP or something.

[foggy sparrow]

true damage... is not true damage????????

[glass monolith]

No just instead of "takes reduced physical and arts damage" she has "takes reduced damage"

[south bone]

well damage reduction is damage reduction

[foggy sparrow]

I've been ignoring the balls in all my runs so that's probably why I can't pull it off

[turbid badge]

my monster is cosplaying as texas

[south bone]

that's for S-4 tho right

[glass monolith]

Helidrops, stuns, and goes missing for rest of mission?

[lethal dragon]

Kid named phantom

[glass monolith]

Thats' why they have 1 hp instead full

[tidal sedge]

I really wish we could shut off certain investigation upgrades. The improved push on Planetary Debris is being an active detriment here.

[lethal dragon]

Man using phantom is so satisfying in s-4

[tidal sedge]

FUCK. THIS. MAP

[glass monolith]

(Pushes Melee robot into Surtr with ball)

[lethal dragon]

Also I love the details HG puts in the maps on sides

Kino

[turbid badge]

How

[tidal sedge]

4 year old game and HG still makes "upgrades" that can screw you over.

[turbid badge]

use monster to lanehold no?

[glass monolith]

HOW THE FUCK YOU REACHED CARS BEFORE SHIELD BOYS MOVED?

[tidal sedge]

I DONT KNOW

[turbid badge]

yk mountain doesnt have 3 block

and if u use s3 its gonna push to the blue box

[foggy sparrow]

oh yeah i forgot about the cars

[tidal sedge]

Im aware

[turbid badge]

lol

[foggy sparrow]

I fucking hate the cars so much

[glass monolith]

It is fucking kill gate bypass not known to mortal man

[visual cove]

use this strat if you have yato https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuzSQmuTAW0

[foggy sparrow]

like 3 of them are sent one after another once kristen hits phase 2

and its almost impossible to deal with

[solid dew]

uh, hes doing EX-8

[lethal dragon]

Grandpa put your glasses

[glass monolith]

They send after 2 jedi which spawn in forever

[visual cove]

oh didn't notice

[foggy sparrow]

most balanced limited operator

[tidal sedge]

CW-10 was a cakewalk

This is horseshit

[turbid badge]

i hate the 4 block dudes

the ones that explode

[glass monolith]

So you on 3-a, i see

[turbid badge]

yeah

beeswax can only do so much

[glass monolith]

Tuye carried this stage for me

Literally nothing in my roster can outheal this fucking pilot

[turbid badge]

how fast is her healing

anyways

is it like actually instant?

[glass monolith]

S2 - gain 3 stack of instant burst when ally hit like 20% or so

[turbid badge]

ohh

ye

ima just rosa them

now

[glass monolith]

I WAS DOING NO 6*

Only stages i did 6* were EX-8 CM, and both S-4 because Erato 100% sleep set up, also fuck that

I haven't used Surtr for over a year probably

[turbid badge]

same

nor thorns

Actually

i use surtr in RA

easy mining

thorns shafted probably 4 ever tho

[cyan gorge]

S-4 and EX8 were the only times I brought Surt

[tidal sedge]

Fuuuuck

[foggy sparrow]

is surtr even enough to kill kristen

[tidal sedge]

Top right corner is leaking

Always

Fuck

This

Map

[foggy sparrow]

her hp is disgusting

[turbid badge]

just use monster to tank

[glass monolith]

Like i said, if you don't defuse balls Kristen has effectively 2 millions HP

So stop your fucking POO practice and kill her good way

[solid dew]

LMAO

[glass monolith]

Oh wait you on EX-8

Okay 250k hp

[foggy sparrow]

its over

[tidal sedge]

What?

[glass monolith]

In S-4 when all balls captured she has effectively 97.5 DR. She takes 4 times less damage than chapter 10 slime

[tidal sedge]

Ah

[glass monolith]

AND you can't true damage her

[tidal sedge]

...

Thats bs

[foggy sparrow]

I managed to fully kill her on ex-8 without attacking the balls with chenalter+mlynar+texalter+ling once but I got destroyed by the minions

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZkbokLQD8&ab_channel=Sciel

[runic pewter]

was it worth it

[eager gate]

that's just about 8 cycles of overbuffed exu

[turbid badge]

True damage dr is crazy

[crisp bolt]

It's so weird wishing I had eyja

[glass monolith]

🐑

[crisp bolt]

So I can in a cursed way do s-4-cm p1 with mlynar kal aak and use surtr to deal with robots

But in p2 I just can't deal with all of the star rings quick enough

While making sure I don't leak

I ended up leaking the boss

[ancient hearth]

gg s3 tunnel visions on the rings

[turbid badge]

dalao beeswax

[crisp bolt]

I don't have gg

[glass monolith]

Medic + Weedy 1 side, Medic + Literally anything which can stop other side, all while you play catch hot potato with balls at places where boss currently isn't

[turbid badge]

borrow

[crisp bolt]

Can't

[turbid badge]

or u borrow weedy

[spark sinew]

🤔

[crisp bolt]

I'm borrowing surtr

[turbid badge]

etf

wtf

[spark sinew]

what even is that thumbnail

[crisp bolt]

Ye

[turbid badge]

no other boss killer?

u can just stall

[spark sinew]

we have like 6 3 op clears from before virtuosa, during original run

[crisp bolt]

No I'm using her to helidrop the gundams

[turbid badge]

oh

ohh

make more sense

[crisp bolt]

I don't have a good way of killing them without her

[vernal lion]

CW is one of main story, so everyone can come back to play

[spark sinew]

yeah but ???

[vernal lion]

have you ever noticed that in S stages ?

[crisp bolt]

One of my friends has a level 90 surtr that just perfectly tanks enough damage from both gundams that I can clear the right side before they walk out

Or I forget to activate the skill .2s late and she gets deleted

[vernal lion]

basically, you need to read lore to understand

I won't say it in here

[glass monolith]

GOLDEN AGE HAS COME AGAIN

[crisp bolt]

What lore

[crisp bolt]

Not yet

Rerun soon

[turbid badge]

beeswax best raise frfr

[turbid badge]

good lore

[crisp bolt]

I used the power of rat for that stage

Place her next to one of those bots and she gets free sp

[glass monolith]

Damn you could just go "6* only" at this point

[turbid badge]

[crisp bolt]

Biggest gripe with cm

By the way

Is the aspd reduction

[turbid badge]

my carnelian just dies to it

sister better

[crisp bolt]

How am I supposed to use lin to kill balls with aspd down

In normal I was using the balls to give sp to her

[visual cove]

which side to block for s1?

[glass monolith]

Laughs in 2 range vanguard spam

[turbid badge]

?

is this 4

just use ur frdp

i use monster lol

trye damage crack

[glass monolith]

He talks S-4 CM when game give you Attack speed risk 3 in range of balls, which is x2.5 more time per attack

[turbid badge]

guess what time it is

@glass monolith

right in the middle

[glass monolith]

Laugh at CN doing daily on day 3?

[turbid badge]

[glass monolith]

Going to sleep strat too or be more reasonable?

[turbid badge]

erato and mr nothing?

[crisp bolt]

Yeah I've just been too slow on it

[turbid badge]

[latent anvil]

teta

[turbid badge]

(i might as well use him)

[crisp bolt]

Only got 2 proper attempts at phase 2

[latent anvil]

my cw-s-4 normal mode is a 10 min clear

:kek

[turbid badge]

wtf stall

[glass monolith]

Remind me (forgets question)

[latent anvil]

[glass monolith]

How much attack speed is gravity?

[latent anvil]

my max risk week1 cc11 was 4:30

[crisp bolt]

Enough

[latent anvil]

this stage is no fun fr

[crisp bolt]

It took me to s-4 to realize gravity is a thing

As I can't p1 without changing gravity

[glass monolith]

I need specific number of attack speed from gravity because i want to do LISKARMLESS Erato

[turbid badge]

lol

it will eventually desy-

[spark sinew]

how would attackspeed help 🤔

i shudder to image what you're cooking

[glass monolith]

If gravity is +20 then there is only 1 second of awake Krist which if we say feed her Manticore is not enough for her to start moving

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

she use skill every attack idk, l

[glass monolith]

Liskarm allows me to hit 100% uptime on 4.8s since S1, next attack take place 7.2s after S1 by which point Krist will do attack and start moving

[turbid badge]

lmao this reminds me of that map in chapter 5 i think

with the 4 caster

with like global map range

[latent anvil]

no alter or broken op in my clear

take me forever

well mostima and nightingale are kinda broken ig

[tidal sedge]

Im really tempted to just ignore the rest of the stages and grind out the shop...
Im tired of beating my head on this stage

[spark sinew]

weedy is broken on this map

[turbid badge]

Yea she is

[latent anvil]

[turbid badge]

lol gg nod

kek

[latent anvil]

what about

sl6 weedy