strategy

[blissful condor]

It the skin I have lol

[jovial nest]

#arknights

[blissful condor]

JuSan you law inforcer

[vernal lion]

I mean, the dev is still listening to us,
so I say if I want the stage harder, they mind to do that too

[blissful condor]

Lol

[vernal lion]

[jovial nest]

a lot of people are gonna disagree with you basing it off of EXs heh

[blissful condor]

Ok I'm done eating at this restaurant imma go

Bye peeps

[cosmic thicket]

were the EX's actually that difficult

[vernal lion]

you're right

[cosmic thicket]

ok cya

[jovial nest]

EX-7 CM was quite the stats check that will be quite something for newer players

[cosmic thicket]

EX-7 CM has balls path block cheese

but yeah for a newer player it would be hard to figure that out

[vernal lion]

also the pushing robot tho

[jovial nest]

especially the lane purely devoted to jedi

[cosmic thicket]

u can just ball them to death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuVJ7R2uue0

[vernal lion]

I saw that too, but controlling the ball is a thing

[cosmic thicket]

yeah you need to be good at handling the balls

[vernal lion]

and not many players care about this

[jovial nest]

well let them suffer

not learning about game mechanics should be punished

and a LOT of them ignored this in normal maps

[cosmic thicket]

i mean we've seen it just now

[vernal lion]

back to the days when Ling event is ass without dot dmg

[jovial nest]

imagine suffering in IW

[peak cloak]

okay, just several questions:

like what ops should i pick?

how to manage hopes and get more relics and levels (i dont remember how it called, but basically ,u level up to get hopes)

strats for rushing IS?

i usually stop at floor 3 and barely get to floor 4 (if i did ,it will be ended cuz lack of life points.)

thx comrades

[cosmic thicket]

just use ethan fr

[cosmic thicket]

is this IS2 or IS3

[peak cloak]

is 2

i'm just a beginner of is mode

[cosmic thicket]

ok basically if you want to win consistently, have a set of ops in mind that you want to draft at some point

[jovial nest]

• Ling or Thorns (applies mostly in IS2) getting E2 ASAP is a huge strength
• Managing hope is basically saving enough hope to get your 6* recruited. So just keep recruiting 3* until then
• Get more levels and relics? Get into as many combat nodes and emergency stages as much as possible
• Strats for rushing IS? you don't....

[cosmic thicket]

i recommend completely new players to pick up a pozy at some point in time since her mod allows her to ignore phantom dodge, and typewriter utility is very much appreciated
also make sure to get ops that hold lanes (thorns is the other typically recommended pick)

[vernal lion]

there are many options, you can pick one and try it yourself

[cosmic thicket]

you want to snowball hard in IS so as jusan said, pick a lot of fights - usually first floor and second floor emergency are pretty free
in general familiarize yourself with the maps, you'll fail a bit early but once you get familiar with what enemies come from where it'll be smooth sailing

also make sure to level up the preparations behind the scenes - it's free buffs

[peak cloak]

also, how to deal a stage with purple colossus and flying guys?

[vernal lion]

that's boss stage right?

[cosmic thicket]

that's 2 different boss stages

[peak cloak]

yea ,floor 3 bosses

[jovial nest]

colossus is just dealt by dropping enough operators so it doesn't stun what you care about

[cosmic thicket]

for purple colossus it helps to have an FRD (if you happen to have an e2 jaye, jaye is also a very comfy pick as a low hope high-impact op), you can also just outrange with like goldenglow or let pozy camp and the typewriter does everything

[jovial nest]

flying guys?......recruit good ranged ops

you should be making a well balanced team

dedicated healers, boss killers, laners, ranged

the usual

flexible to deal with any map

[near basalt]

Hey guys haven't played IS so what benefit on playing IS

[cosmic thicket]

for the flying guys the boss' "airborne" skill has a cooldown, so drop someone to block in advance so it gets blocked in your killzone

[vernal lion]

a lot of reward waitting you

[peak cloak]

free resources

[cosmic thicket]

fun gamemode that has a lot of free mats

[jovial nest]

a lot of mats

[near basalt]

Mm

So to start any tips

[jovial nest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_40YYmU3Qc

[cosmic thicket]

there's an ancient Go proverb that i think is somewhat applicable - "lose your first 100 games as fast as possible"

obviously don't take it literally but the point is, failure is the best teacher

[deft badger]

am i the only moron who spend 3-4 days to grind all of it? 😄

[jovial nest]

some just don't have the patience to learn it themselves

and thats the sad part sometimes

[cosmic thicket]

that's how ak works

[jovial nest]

I haven't even obtained the level rewards for the last 2 months of IS3 because I know i'll be hard grinding on December once Ending 4 is released and a lot of new relics and maps are also added

[deft badger]

4 days actually 8-10 hours each day and i was done with is2 and 3

[vernal lion]

tbh roguelike is truly "learn by losing" game

you will NEVER win roguelike in the first time you play (not including spoiler)

[deft badger]

btw how to play use THORNSSS 😄

[jovial nest]

Thorns S3....let him get as many attacks in as possible

activate S3

do 1st step again

activate S3 a 2nd time

win

[vernal lion]

1. E2 your Thorns
2. S3M3 him
3. Deploy him
4. stacking s3 2 times
5. Enjoy~

[peak cloak]

also, how long will a run from floor 1st to 5th often takes? i have works so i want to ask about it.

[vernal lion]

an hour

[cosmic thicket]

an hour but you don't have to play it all in 1 go

[peak cloak]

an horu?

[vernal lion]

if you're usually thoughful

[cosmic thicket]

u can leave if you're not in a battle and it will save progress

[jovial nest]

as long as you're not in a combat map fight, you can quit out anytime

it saves progress

only 1 run is saved of course

[vernal lion]

ONLY if you're not in combat right now

[peak cloak]

ic ic.

[vernal lion]

this is not annihilation

you quit combat = you lose

you lost internet connection = you lose

your game force closing suddenly = you lose

[cosmic thicket]

(in combat)

[peak cloak]

[deft badger]

ah yes IS2 if u can get this if not nvm he will still do fine

[jovial nest]

let me iterate btw

[deft badger]

but IS2 is actually harder then IS3

[jovial nest]

the internet connection and game force closing is only problematic if you're IN COMBAT

[jovial nest]

even the def supp one is great since Ling exists

[deft badger]

phantom isn't a easy boss if u just wanna grind the levels u do need something to kill phantom and thorns can't

[cosmic thicket]

IS3 low diff < IS2 normal < IS3 mid diff < IS2 calamity <<< IS3 high diff

[cosmic thicket]

hello pozy here

(this is why i recommend new players to start with pozy instead of thorns)

(she also doesn't completely suck ass at e1)

[jovial nest]

and yet i still wouldn't recommend people do IS3 low diff first

cause it has too many mechanics that might confuse newbies

[deft badger]

just talking about grind, since i don't go in to it if i don't have to... i got all the rewards there isn't a reason for me to try any higher difficulty

[vernal lion]

yes IS3 high diff is ass because of a lot of stat check

[peak cloak]

does Kaltsit usable in Is 2?

[cosmic thicket]

yeah

[jovial nest]

of course

here's the thing

if you think your operator is solid in a lot of event maps

USE EM

[cosmic thicket]

summon utility good just make sure u don't rely on her as only medic in is2 bc poison maps

[jovial nest]

IS has a lot of relics that are solid

can make some of the less strong classes be insane

[cosmic thicket]

yeah thorns is only recommnded as an is2 starter bc of instapromote and a lot of relics boost his performance a lot

[jovial nest]

behold.
because of specific relics, I was able to 3-ops the default IS2 boss

[cosmic thicket]

e.g. offensive/defensive batteries, aspd, guards restore 2 sp per attack

in is3 thorns is nowhere near the best starter, in fact not even the best starting guard

[jovial nest]

Gavialter gets that claim

[cosmic thicket]

both highmore and gavialter are better

yeah

[jovial nest]

unless we're talking d15

there it has to be Krooster start

[vernal lion]

if you want Bagpipe solo IS2 ed3, I have this one too
#is-station message

[jovial nest]

for the smoothest start

[cosmic thicket]

isn't this only true post-MOM buff

[jovial nest]

we're about to get that in December

hahahahha

last chance to get your pre-MOM meta clears

[deft badger]

yeah relics... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlnHgovS-aY

[jovial nest]

either way

[deft badger]

didn't record how phantom died but who cares surtr did kill him lol

[jovial nest]

there's a reason why IS is the most replayable game mode in AK

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648597785444220941/1142803365827452978/Stats_04.png?ex=65351b12&is=6522a612&hm=fb7cc39ccd05a865228e74fc88fd440550bf7946b0887571eddeca2c608e6bc4&

still my favorite IS screenshot

[lunar hornet]

is saria module 2 much better than module 1? I max lvled module 1 before module 2 came out

[vernal lion]

the 2nd mod has damage reduction, it's pretty good for tanking tough enemy

the 1st mod is usually for supporting

[soft crystal]

tbh, people kinda underselling bagp mody

[unreal oar]

ok beat CW-EX-8 challenge. who would have thought that FEater s1 only pushes one enemy

real question tho, are the stages of "the pursuit of tomorrow" going to be even harder?

[vernal lion]

Yes

[unreal oar]

[glass monolith]

S stages will have enemy enjoy random ass buff on top of EX red version of them stats and it will be even worse in CM

[jovial nest]

the 2nd module?

[soft crystal]

Ya

[jovial nest]

here's the thing. It's because people don't use Bagpipe as the main DPS

they use her for the pot5 talent and ModX allowing her for very fast redep strats

ModY makes S3 feel slow to immediately use

and who the hell still uses Bagpipe S2?

[soft crystal]

Mod x 5/3second helidrop is cool tbh.

Um noone

[jovial nest]

exactly....

[soft crystal]

All of those are bag s3

[jovial nest]

which is why i like X still

i prefer a faster S3 activation

for flexible redep strats

especially since when it's redep-ing her

its a very dangerous elite or boss

so i want her to become tanky (through S3 skill) ASAP

ModX also allows for her to be "free cost" even with DP inflation from redeps

if you can retreat her of course

[cyan gorge]

I do

[jovial nest]

[robust hemlock]

[lunar hornet]

Can you push kristen in second form

[lethal dragon]

ok but baggy isn't a bird

[cyan gorge]

It's not like I bird only everything

just when bored

[vernal lion]

Kristen can't be push

[lethal dragon]

Just wait for weedy mod delta

+100 push force but can only use skill once per deployment

[vernal lion]

imagine that +100 push force can bypass the game code

[jovial nest]

So like what happened to Jesselton?

[vernal lion]

isn't he push-able ?

weight 6

in IS2 you can push him with Ange relic

[cosmic thicket]

Can't you also push him on phase transition

[lethal dragon]

Oh Kirsten has unbalance immunity

I thought it's just weight 10

[vernal lion]

they fixed the bug

[cosmic thicket]

oh

[glass monolith]

Fuuuuuuuuuuu

[turbid badge]

me delaying my death

time to upgrade goat sisters

[latent anvil]

[tidal sedge]

What killed Beeswax, the traffic officer?

The jetpacks shouldn't scratch her

But the Traffic officer has 1800 atk so she's not gonna like that no matter how much she's upgraded

Well, hmmm.

[versed arrow]

<@&586570970345635868> he is here aswell

[plucky void]

We don't need a ping everywhere.

[tidal sedge]

Wow. Beeswax module doesn't give def. What a scam

[turbid badge]

its cm

There stars liwer

atat

Stat*

[tidal sedge]

Hp and atk ye

[turbid badge]

my beeswax loose alot of Hp

[proper belfry]

hi, i wanna ask for CW-EX-8 challenge mode, before kill Kirsten phase 1, i need to destroy the balls right? else my units will die is it?

[versed arrow]

isnt it easier to not let them fly in the first place?

[turbid badge]

Yea

i won anyways just brang carnelian for dps

[tidal sedge]

But jetpacks only have 600 atk, which should do minimum damage to Beeswax

[versed arrow]

if you kill fast enough, boss only takes 1 ball, your ops prob could survive. Dont even need ng s3 to survive it.

[proper belfry]

ah i see. ok thanks. was wondering what kills my units during her phase 1 where as in normal mode my units didn't die.

[cyan gorge]

Remember the more transformed balls during phase change, the stronger the global arts explosion. Most e2 ops can take one ball worth, just not 2

[turbid lagoon]

2 is painful yeah, either big burst or big stall and deal with balls

[proper belfry]

thanks for the info. appreciate it

[agile pond]

Who’re my best vanguards? Tryna do the mission that’ll get me guard chips and I’m getting destroyed without upgrading, but I don’t have a ton of mats and don’t wanna waste any lol

[cyan gorge]

Fang and Myrtle

[agile pond]

awesome, thx

[deft rock]

Guys how I can do cw-ex 2 task?

[cyan gorge]

What's the task again?

[deft rock]

No take arc commandos

[crisp bolt]

spawn camp them

and flip the switch

[cyan gorge]

Keep the stage in up position

then they'll never fly

[deft rock]

My all operators high cost

All start from 10

[cyan gorge]

that's what vgs are for

[crisp bolt]

no myrtle?

[deft rock]

Not max

[crisp bolt]

[deft rock]

I used texas and zima

[cyan gorge]

good enough

[crisp bolt]

all you need to do is flip up once

[deft rock]

They passed easily

[deft rock]

I used red for that

[crisp bolt]

sounds like you aren't killing fast enough

[deft rock]

Yep

[crisp bolt]

getting hit by the -block guys

just borrow someone

[cyan gorge]

Again, keep the UP switch lit 100% of the time and you guaranteed win

[glass monolith]

Don't you just make gravity UP and spawn kill them on that map?

[deft rock]

I do

They passed vgs

[crisp bolt]

it made me realize how much I hate thorns' damage

as he goes peashooter on the enemies

[glass monolith]

Doesn't matter, they need to travel literally entire map to reach take off

[deft rock]

First my texas 50 lvl elite 1 zima 45 elite 1

I switch with red

But enemies passed easily

[crisp bolt]

yeah because that's not really damage

[deft rock]

What I can do?

[cyan gorge]

You have time to block

assuming your vgs are sl7

enough time to get dp

also you don't need to spawncamp

[deft rock]

I haven't play 1 or 2 month one time. I forget few mechanic

[cyan gorge]

as I said, as long as you keep the gravity in UP position, anything will work

[deft rock]

K

[cyan gorge]

if you lack damage, borrow

[wide sail]

i think pushers can solo hit all 3 guys at once

not sure actually nvm

[glass monolith]

Kroos at most left ranged tile look up, best defender to block left lane (Cardigan and Spot probably don't even need healing) everything else toward killing whatever goes right

[deft rock]

I do what my best tactic

Stack at start

With this team

And I did

[turbid badge]

carnelian mod lvl 1s decent

[agile pond]

autodeploy is gonna do exactly what I did to beat a mission right?

[tidal sedge]

For the most part, yes.

Tight timings have no guarantee on being replicated properly unfortunately

[agile pond]

hm alr

thx

seems to work for the most part

also, how accurate are the difficulties/recommendations for the supply missions

for PR-D-2 it says I'll need e1 lvl 50 ops, is it possible to beat without E1s if its a good comp?

[wary wing]

full e0 is kinda doable
but needs more specific units

E2 recommended levels are mostly scam

but the jump from e0 recommendation to E1 recommendation is pretty steep

remember that for power levels in this game

full e0 squad is baby
full E1 40 squad is early game
1~4 E2s is getting into the actual gameplay
full E2 squad is the start of the lategame

[glass monolith]

End of late game is when full e2 maxed squad don't do shit

[wary wing]

that's a you-with-massive-skill-issue issue, minus

[glass monolith]

Tell it to people doing DoS and POO on CN

[wary wing]

ppl shat on DoS very hard tho

[tidal sedge]

What is DoS

[glass monolith]

Inflation

[tidal sedge]

?

[glass monolith]

Last stage of DoS is like 10 enemies, 1 hp seal, all clears i know of had Suzu Ceobe Mlynar Reed alter etc etc

JUST LOOK ON THIS SHIT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_2dTQHHksQ

[tidal sedge]

Oh the fire sht

Oh thats pretty cool

I never even beat S

So basically ceobe is god

[glass monolith]

Ceobe is amazing against high defense BS. And whoever designed fillers for CC for next 2 "seasons" really ramped up that DEF

[tidal sedge]

I didnt even make it to S iirc. There was a stage with the chapter 9dudes that have refract, tons of hp, and get buffed when together. And my chalter didnt do dmg to them so I gave up there

[agile pond]

aw damn and here I thought getting level 50 ops was good lol

also

I just E1'd thorns

I think I'm safe in assuming that his 2nd ability is the better right

[tidal sedge]

Both his e1 skills are pretty trash
S2 is better prob if you want to use him as a frontline and get more impact out of him

[tidal sedge]

Ever heard of diagonals

[deft badger]

nah, saw a guy who did skip the 4 clone just because dmg xD

trying the same

[copper rune]

Now, I've never had issues with clearing a stage but I wanna ask what 2 vanguards would y'all use in a team comp. I've been using Myrtle and Flametail for a long while.

[glass monolith]

You need to do like 112k damage in 8 second. While boss charge global bullshit

[deft badger]

i have even more then he does 😛

i bring aak + surtr with me now 😄

[glass monolith]

You have damage, but you really missing the time limit part

[deft badger]

mlynar buffed hitting 3 of them surtr chong 2

and yato 2

should be enough to send it flying

[deft badger]

i know what u mean with the time limit ...

have to push the dmg in the part when he does the overtake

he/she whatever

[tidal sedge]

[deft badger]

dude used kal and mlynar chong only

i will buff my mlynar and drop surtr yato on top

[tidal sedge]

The timing is the issue

[deft badger]

that should be enough

[glass monolith]

Incoming he forgets Mlynar debuffed to 0 def and kills him

[tidal sedge]

[forest wedge]

Does silence alter S2 drone heal? All the showcases I can find have it in range so can't tell

[deft badger]

mlynar isn't even in range to die

i am more worried about my gummy

[eager gate]

Minus meant by aak

[glass monolith]

By skill text it just empowers talent 1

[tidal sedge]

He means you will shoot your mlynar to death

[deft badger]

he didn't die last try i just missed the boss wanted to block him with a other op and missed it lol

[forest wedge]

Yeah that's what confused me, if no heal then wtf is the point when skalter has unrestricted summon that last twice as long not tied to any skill

[deft badger]

2nd problem i cant find a good NG

that guy has a lvl90 NG

which heals like a god

i have some broken one that lets my chong die sometimes

[tidal sedge]

He prob had max pot ng

[deft badger]

at the end i will e2 a elemental healer and call it a day since i am done dealing with this s-

balls are not even the problem, i just drop texas and they stand still

die to mlynar but that dot hurts

[glass monolith]

Silence alter is not carry everything alone operator, I played game enough to assemble roster which can get use out of her damage reduction part. Will it be efficient? Lmao no.

[forest wedge]

Sad, would love to have another skalter but oh well... Having to deploy the drone in range is just

[glass monolith]

#strategy message Here me having her sustain AH against H12-3 as test run. Ignore leaked 3 block guy, it was unserious run as you may guess by me not bringing 13 operators

[turbid badge]

silence s2 is actually pretty amazing

saving me in some pretty wacky situations

could also use s3

[cyan gorge]

Nowadays, I just use solo Ines/Cantabile or her + pioneer or Muelsyes if there's an early rush to be blocked. But that's just me cause I don't use flags unless dp demand is too high

[glass monolith]

I have no Aak to have use of S3. I prefer my shit being alive

Except that one case where i needed to kill Skadi to activate revival attack speed but she just refused to die

[turbid badge]

s2 gives enough shelter to feed my units to Ah levels of tanky

[glass monolith]

Silence alter + AH.
Silence alter + Aak.
Silence alter + your ranged operators are not save because event mechanic is BS

Silence alter + this one Minus guy stacking DR on quartz for no fucking reason (Call me when BSW event) #strategy message

[copper rune]

Ngl I have Cantabille full pot maxed but I really don't like using her

[dusky glade]

she is very decent, i never leave her on my ch-12 autos anyways, she is quite cheapwith her 15DP

[glass monolith]

Cantabile and max pod Blacknight is my to go vanguard, when i am not rarity abusing Flametail

[dusky glade]

even my flametail still 14DP which i shoulg get her module

[cyan gorge]

My fav vg duo is double agent

[turbid badge]

EYJAALTER+ SILENCE ALTER = MUELSEYE MELEE CLONE FOR MORE HP

[turbid badge]

my fav duo is My bind girls

mumu and ines

bind is such a amazing CC

Muelseye perma bind, Ines guarenteed bind first hit is wild, (really broken) + movement speed decrease + both HITS AIR ( so coll)

[crystal cargo]

rn i use sail s3 + texas s2

its nice for stunning mobs

[deft badger]

hahahahaha mlynar died to aak xDDD

@glass monolith i guess u meant to say that

mlynar will die to aak

lol

[turbid badge]

of course?

he has like no defense

[deft badger]

hahaha bro i did it a 2nd time first time i didn't get why he died and how

[glass monolith]

This time he stayed longer on field and got debuffed for 0 def

Boss ranged attack, which one 2 or 3 clones guarantee stupid corrosion

[cosmic thicket]

what corrosion damage does to a mf

also why r u aak buffing mlynar for H12-4

[turbid badge]

lol

[deft badger]

i thought he died to balls

[glass monolith]

He plans to kill boss in 8 seconds during his global aoe charge bullshit

To avoid AMONGUS phase

[deft badger]

did it in slow motion now and saw how he died to aak

anyway i have to rr my pc

[cosmic thicket]

wadafak

[deft badger]

lol

[turbid badge]

what no wandering medic does

[cosmic thicket]

u need so much dps for that

[deft badger]

brb

[cosmic thicket]

retreat and redeploy:

[cyan gorge]

What not using Silater does

[glass monolith]

112k damage in 8 second assuming he starts it exactly on 50% boss hp

[turbid badge]

[turbid badge]

how long sil duration

[glass monolith]

Wait H boss is 150k or 180k?

[cyan gorge]

60 seconds on s3

[cosmic thicket]

180k hp

[glass monolith]

Oh great

You need to do 175k damage to boss in 8 seconds

[deft badger]

how much def does the boss have?

[glass monolith]

1200 i think?

[deft badger]

better i reduce that then buffing mlynar lol

[cyan gorge]

do both

[turbid badge]

or just bring another op

[deft badger]

mlynar died just now because i did try to buff him

lol

[glass monolith]

Ok my bad 1080

[deft badger]

nah since aak is going to kill him i am just going to lower boss def and drop exu on top of that

mlynar is hitting 3 of them anyway at the same time, chon surtr yato 2 and exu can aim at one 😄

[turbid badge]

??

why exu

[cyan gorge]

Horn would be better if you need to hit multiple clones

[deft badger]

i have anyway 2 more dps on the field then that dude i was watching

[glass monolith]

Boss will start 4th clone at 90k hp left in phase 2, so let's assume you smart ass and somehow had him enter global BS on 90,001 hp.
You need to do 90k damage (While boss takes only 64% damage because DR of 2 clones) which means you need to do effectively 141k damage in 8 seconds against 1080 def 50 res

[turbid badge]

[cosmic thicket]

I think the hardest part is actually trying to hit all 3 clones at once

[glass monolith]

It is easy you don't

[deft badger]

its easy

[cosmic thicket]

Casterknights' clear does but one of the clones is literally like half a tile from the blue box

[deft badger]

to hit all 3 with mlynar

the hard part is to keep my ops up

since this NG i have is trash xD

[cosmic thicket]

It's doable without NG so

[turbid badge]

how so?

[deft badger]

my ops die before i even get to the dmg part lol

lets reset my pc, then i will look for a better exu maybe i even bring eyja in to lower that res + texas, shamare + QB + mlynar + surtr + yato

that should do the kill that guy did have just 2 ops after all mlynar did most of it solo by hitting 3 clones

[turbid badge]

Qb does arts

but sure just kill them ig

[glass monolith]

I have no idea why people cook NG against boss who has like only 1 arts move and it does 450 damage, used once per 40 seconds

[deft badger]

i know that she does arts but mlynar could use a bit help prob, lets just try qb surtr chong mlynar expecting that will work

[cyan gorge]

Wouldn't it be more effective to maximize debuffs for just one damage type instead of 2?

[deft badger]

i don't have more then shamare for def, eyja and texas for res... aak is killing mlynar so i will drop shamare and take aak out

[cyan gorge]

then commit to arts with Suzu + Saria s3

[deft badger]

i don't have those

[cyan gorge]

[deft badger]

have to borrow NG

[cyan gorge]

You don't need NG tho

ngl Ptilo would do more for you

[cyan gorge]

probably Perfumer too

[cyan gorge]

e1 Perf

[deft badger]

w8 does gnosis work on the boss?

[cyan gorge]

no

doesn't get frozen

[deft badger]

but cold?

[cyan gorge]

Well I suppose you can make do with 25% fragile for 10 seconds

[deft badger]

just cold would be 25% more

will try, lets see if the cold sign pops up

[cyan gorge]

You can afflict cold, just not freeze

[deft badger]

that's fine since that would be 25% already

25% fragile, -55% res, QB - chong - mlynar - surtr - texas - yato - eyja will send the boss flying

[turbid badge]

does cold even work

[cyan gorge]

Gnosis applies fragile to all cold afflicted enemies in range so yes, the problem is it's only consistent with s3 active

[turbid badge]

oh it works yea

i keep forgetting that cold applies even if they cant be frozen

[deft badger]

that's the plan anyway send it when mlynar starts hitting

to time it all will be a pain, have to start QB first so that she stacks up use mlynar/surtr/gnosis when the boss is close to 50%

[tidal sedge]

This is grade a prime fuckery

[turbid badge]

Outlaw maybe u should try reading dobberman tutorial

she says it for a reason

[glass monolith]

Ball control in those bonus stages still dog shit

[tidal sedge]

im trying, it controls like ass

[glass monolith]

You can leave it on top left making everything go bottom giving more freedom to ball it

[turbid badge]

lololo

[tidal sedge]

Mother...
Fucker...

[glass monolith]

Gratz, you managed to somehow kill Saria

[tidal sedge]

She got Jedi'd

[vernal lion]

you touch the tile where you want to move the ball,
after that the ball will fall to the direction of gravity,
so you have to mind about gravity too

[tidal sedge]

Im aware of that...
Im just dumb it seems

I hate this mission...

Oh yes,lets just...not use any mechanics instead you play pinball with a finnicky pos ball

[eager gate]

I love and hate how this game doesn't actually count bind as cc

On one hand it typically means "cc immune" bosses can still be bound, on the other cc buffs don't get applied

[cyan gorge]

The ball is the mechanic

[tidal sedge]

[eager gate]

balls are just less op IC cars

[tidal sedge]

Also.
If you dont kill the torpedoes it goes wrong quickly

Bc i have very few ways of dealing with those

...

That is too many mans

[glass monolith]

FUCK MAMA JONES MAP

4 fucking lane rush while my fucking gladiia instead pulling DV power armor into hole pulled it into herself, bot died to random dog shit and after first attempt dying to literally last 3 crushers I didn't get a single run reaching wave 3

[tidal sedge]

Rip

[cyan gorge]

4 lanes?

You can do it with 3 blockers

[soft crystal]

Still is 4 lanes tbh

[turbid badge]

kek

finally did it on a normal map

weedy so good for those arts sabers

really scuffed but its done

[glass monolith]

Yes fuck you I tried to block DV power armor with 900 def, not trying it again

[cyan gorge]

I held that lane with Mud/Penance

[turbid badge]

oh crap

I can add roberta moduler with shining for even more defense i totally forgot it also gave defense

hows the consensus on weedys module?

do you guys think the other one will b better than the current one ee got

oh mint module alot more defense

[tidal sedge]

Advice?

[glass monolith]

Suffer. All I will spoiler is: Attack dudes near button from left, without angles or whatever

[tidal sedge]

So just bonk the shit out of the ones that spawn near the yellow square?

[tropic valve]

oh I have the most cursed Mama John footage

still editing tho

[tidal sedge]

How?

[turbid badge]

these lone trail enemies have no weight

really cursed

[eager gate]

rhine only hires if you're below 50kg you see

[turbid badge]

i see

[waxen swan]

If you dont die from a gush of wind your not hire

[crystal cargo]

why are you using wind chimes 😭

[eager gate]

if I had Wind chimes I'd use her too

[cyan gorge]

I’d have raised Wind chimes already if not for building 5 back to back 6-stars

[wanton harness]

anyone have surtr E2 to borrow?

asking for lonetrail

[cyan gorge]

Check #friend-id

[brisk pollen]

how am i supposed to do this those fucking rockets just run straight into blue box

[timid spade]

I had GG + Suzuran S2 + Exu hold the top lane for the first 21 enemies, then switched gravity and held the bottom lane with Mudrock/Kaltsit + yato. Then just have someone ready to clear the last push enemy

[tidal sedge]

The top robot doesn't move until map is over, you can set gravity to up safely without opening the short path to blue box

If you've strong enough melee to hold bot at least

I don't have the practice plans to fiddle with things yet, but I think a ranged-centric strat could work if you avoid killing bot robot and hold it in place to funnel enemies to the ranged tiles at top. But that's purely conjecture on my part until I can try it tomorrow.

Although tanking robot for such a strat sounds obnoxious due to lack of ranged tiles bot.

[cyan gorge]

I killed the top bot and kept the bottom one alive with Saria + Skalter seaborn

everything goes top where I have a kill box set up

[brisk pollen]

wow thats much easier xD

melee operators are always my strength

ranged however

[crystal cargo]

no snipers or casters

[brisk pollen]

i rarely ever use them anw

[crystal cargo]

i have a ranged weakness in snipers

[brisk pollen]

same

[tidal sedge]

Good to see that info helped

[brisk pollen]

literally my only good sniper is schwarz

says a lot

[cyan gorge]

Imagine having good melee ops

[turbid badge]

@cirn-

[crystal cargo]

ok but schwarz is decent

i have nobody

[brisk pollen]

I also have Wuh if that counts

[crystal cargo]

i have firewatch and ive heard shes decent but i dont need her

theres a reason i dont use snipers

my eyja carries me in the range department

[brisk pollen]

wow this is genuinely sad xD

new player?

[crystal cargo]

fr

i started like october 10th

so kinda new

[brisk pollen]

fair

[crystal cargo]

if i got a 5 star marksman i would be fine

[tidal sedge]

5*s can hold bot pretty well. I used Czerny and Nearl until the lightsaber guys come around, then swapped them out for Manti + pusher

[turbid badge]

Fr

[crystal cargo]

but its like ive got every 5 star sniper type but marksman

[turbid badge]

lightsaber guys have the weight of paper

Me when no krooster

Atleast insider free

And krooster too

[brisk pollen]

no blue poison

sadge

[crystal cargo]

yeah

[cyan gorge]

May is good tho

[brisk pollen]

azureus my favorite anti air

her summer skin is just

[turbid badge]

is that plat

oh

thats bp

Wtf

I forgot she had a name

[crystal cargo]

so should i build her

[cyan gorge]

She's a strong aa sniper with great utility so yeah

since you don't have anything of higher rarity

[crystal cargo]

fair

time to chip farm

i dont get why stages get locked

but whatever

[turbid badge]

Yes

i have her e2 m2

m3

[brisk pollen]

bc hai mao said so

[turbid badge]

her slow is cracked tbh

[crystal cargo]

mastery on a 4 star

is crazy

[brisk pollen]

better than orchid?

[turbid badge]

thats cheap af

[cyan gorge]

Weak

[turbid badge]

Its like 2 sticks and 1 rock

[crystal cargo]

for mastery?

oh yeah i forgot

things get cheaper

[turbid badge]

shut birdknights player

[brisk pollen]

so a stone shovel

[cyan gorge]

[crystal cargo]

i can finally use another sniper besides kroos in is

[turbid badge]

sad iw will be a while till rerun

Record restore*

atleast insiders pretty alrig ht too

[crystal cargo]

i want kroos alter event rerun

smh

[cyan gorge]

That's like 9 months away

[crystal cargo]

sad

at that point i would probably offbanner a 6 or 5 star

sniper idk

[cyan gorge]

May will hold you over until then at least

[brisk pollen]

she doesnt have auto skill like her 3* version mind you

learned this the hard way

[crystal cargo]

i am planning to roll on jo10 which is soon

so maybe ill wait

to see if i get bp or april

[cyan gorge]

Neither BP or april are on JO

you can't get them from there

[brisk pollen]

pray for off banner then

[crystal cargo]

What

💀

I forgot bp was kernel

[cyan gorge]

These are the only 5*s you can get from next JO

[crystal cargo]

Ok nvm

[brisk pollen]

oh wow 2 fortresses

and the most OP operator ever

(in base)

[turbid badge]

Just get Pozy

[crystal cargo]

Ah yes

Just get pozy

She is In jo11

[turbid badge]

i get premium advice frum me

[crystal cargo]

But I feel like with my luck I’ll get a dupe mlynar

[turbid badge]

oh

u have mwynar?

Thats ur anti air

[crystal cargo]

💀

Mlynar is everything

Sniper defender and guard

[turbid badge]

No

hes not a Medic

[cyan gorge]

I still think you would benefit from building May

[crystal cargo]

Fair

Yeah ima do it

[turbid badge]

mays pretty good yea

Decent in IS too

[crystal cargo]

Grinding for mats

[turbid badge]

have slow, s2 for stun ( and sniper relics are always good tbh)

[cyan gorge]

With masteries and module, she can do 5* tier damage

[crystal cargo]

Wait the mats are craftable

I used to do stages for cuora e2 mats

It was painful

[brisk pollen]

i once saw someone using May to slow down redblade back in cc12

pretty good

literally just may + cliffheart + rope and redblade would be roleplaying sisyphus

(assuming you have them at mastery 3)

[turbid badge]

[crystal cargo]

Didn’t know they could pull him

[brisk pollen]

any shifter with s1m3 can

hookmaster*

[turbid badge]

hows robins camoflague

[cyan gorge]

I e2d Robin a while ago but i haven't bought her module

[turbid badge]

ah

[cyan gorge]

but I imagine her camo would be as good as anyone else with camo

[brisk pollen]

camouflage

doesnt get targetted by ranged attack
still takes splash damage

[turbid badge]

its kinda wacky

thats why im questioning

[cyan gorge]

I feel like if you take splash damage, that's a positioning issue

[turbid badge]

lmao verdant module upgrades

5res to 8

[cyan gorge]

Robin mod needs rocc

already lost interest

[turbid badge]

oh dang

Its longer that i remembered

6 sec camo

when attacked

im curious if itll work with warf but i doubt it

ngl should probably wait for 2nd weedy module

[cyan gorge]

Why are there so many good modules coming up

Fortress and juggernaut mods almost back to back is pain

[turbid badge]

kek

[crystal cargo]

i want the liberator guard module

[turbid badge]

im just going for the fun ones rn

like pram and robin

[crystal cargo]

mlynar is really weak offskill

so he needs it

[cyan gorge]

rn I'm waiting for Stainless mod

abjurers too

[turbid badge]

yea

i need my silalter and tsuki mod

[crystal cargo]

considering i havent heard anything about mlynar mod in cn ill probably have to wait a long time for it in en

[cyan gorge]

Liberators are the last class that needs a mod

[crystal cargo]

i know but i just want to be carried even harder

by mlynar

[turbid badge]

when santalla arrives ima put enemies in hell with pram gnosis

[cyan gorge]

Tactician mod when

[crystal cargo]

i want flagbearer mod too

since i have sail

should give them 2 block

[boreal magnet]

imagine mlynar with mod

[cyan gorge]

flags coming soon

[crystal cargo]

yippee

gonna see what they do

[cyan gorge]

they come with Typhon iirc

[turbid badge]

wasnt hortus first

[cyan gorge]

Hortus has geek and artificer mods

[boreal magnet]

you would change ur mind when theyre blocking 2 dogs running their way

[turbid badge]

oh i mean like the events coming first, but than again schedule been wack recently

[crystal cargo]

so this is translation, does this mean gavialter can have 6 block...................

for sail mod

[cyan gorge]

I'm predicting Pinch out > SN rerun > Hortus > anniversary

[turbid badge]

yea?

[crystal cargo]

sounds fun

[turbid badge]

oh geez

[fringe jackal]

I think PO will run concurrently with SN or hortus

[turbid badge]

Roberta 30 -> 43% defense

[fringe jackal]

or SN -> PO -> hortus -> anni

[turbid badge]

and devices r 2 dp cheaper and can hold 4 now

[cyan gorge]

PO was announced for early december

[crystal cargo]

what is PO

[turbid badge]

oh god

Typhon event has the disappointing mods

Hella and phantom mod 2

[crystal cargo]

mushas got powercrept by reapers

idk why they keep adding such similar subclasses

[cyan gorge]

Reaper mods in Adele

[crystal cargo]

like crushers and centurions

and reapers and mushas

though crushers suck

idk why they exist

[turbid badge]

i like mushas more but reaper is more applicable in most maps

just cuz there range

[crystal cargo]

yeah

if you place defenders to the left and right of a reaper they could hold 3 lanes

[turbid badge]

mushas are fun to mess around with

i like akafuyu alot because of how she utilizes her kit, utages nice too (helidrop arts damage yay, i wonder who else does that but better!!) and than noir memes and hella regen and s2,is stonks when u hit the sweet spot

[crystal cargo]

when i tried using utage in is3 i didnt use her well

[tidal sedge]

Akafuya is best laneholder in is3 trust

[crystal cargo]

she died in seconds

probably because i had skill 2 on

which i thought could be good

[cyan gorge]

She wants to be at half hp for her talent to work

[crystal cargo]

she dies so quickly

😭

[cyan gorge]

was she e1?

[crystal cargo]

i dont remember but probably

since i got her from temp

[cyan gorge]

e2 gets extra def and sanctuary from mod

[crystal cargo]

oh ok

[turbid badge]

[verbal sparrow]

which dorothy skill do people like ?

[cyan gorge]

S3 for damage and slow, s2 for bind

depends on what you need her for

[verbal sparrow]

in practice why would people go to her for bind instead of other ops?

[cyan gorge]

Cause s2 is aoe bind

no other op can do that consistently

[neat skiff]

Closest is Dorothy S2.

[verbal sparrow]

but once enemy steps on it you can't replant the bind ?

[neat skiff]

But that is floor mines and Qiubai is just attacking enemies.

[cyan gorge]

Not unless you levitate or pull them off the tile

but the thing about traps is that you can place them anywhere on the map

[neat skiff]

Oh, Ling S2 is pseudo AoE bind.

[verbal sparrow]

so not indefinite stall, but can globally buy time

[cyan gorge]

whereas other bind sources are restricted to the op's range

[weak gazelle]

playing trapmaster ops require fast finger

[verbal sparrow]

I play in emulator so no need

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1151748117918662666.png?quality=lossless&size=64

[cyan gorge]

Also Dorothy has 100% bind chance, the next best sources being Ines (only first hit for 5s) and Ethan (84% with s2m3 and mod3)

[verbal sparrow]

spacebar at the speed of light

[cyan gorge]

I guess Magallan s1 as well

[weak gazelle]

oh good then

[cyan gorge]

but those can take up deploy limit if using more than one drone with mod x

[weak gazelle]

all trapmaster have 100% bind

[turbid badge]

holy shit

phantom s3

is amazing

[turbid badge]

ling s2 crying rn

[cyan gorge]

Loses points for taking deploy slots

Ambusher true aoe and Ines being a vg makes them far more valuable sources

[turbid badge]

lmao wtf

he wants to go down

robin is op

[lethal dragon]

Gonna go hard in s-5

[cyan gorge]

I wonder if I'll have Spalter raised by S stages

probably not

[turbid badge]

her mines stalling everything

[verbal sparrow]

has Ebenholz become worth building with the new module?

[cyan gorge]

He was always worth building

[turbid badge]

ok im not bringig mint

in cm

shes flinging everything everywhere

[lethal dragon]

Push that pulls
Pull that pushes

[latent anvil]

both yuu senpai and teta pro here

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/230210318717026304.png?quality=lossless&size=64

[foggy grove]

humus mastery feels kinda eh

[robust hemlock]

im done....

idk what the hell is goin on here

ex's all too annoying

[cyan gorge]

Texalter is your answer

kill the cars before they can even reach your blockers

[robust hemlock]

here no "texalter answer at all"

here problem in stage mechanic

always gravity troubles

and cars

and gravity

[turbid badge]

best setup ever

weedy s2 flings them to iwona

and it loopa back

[robust hemlock]

whos under muel bubble?

im tired

[turbid badge]

gavial but shes kinda useless

better to just use robin to fling her back to iwona

[robust hemlock]

when i use bubble i put in exu

idk

i ruin my sanity.....

again

[turbid badge]

holy shot

[robust hemlock]

idk how i should do that

[turbid badge]

u have weedy?

[robust hemlock]

ofc no

[robust hemlock]

i dont understand how left down ball stay in down if gravity goes up

[turbid badge]

dont break it

Ez

[robust hemlock]

wdym?

they should move anyway no?

[turbid badge]

nope

there under kristens thingy

[robust hemlock]

eh?.....

but if i put gravity up it anyway goes up

[turbid badge]

No

it stays like that

[robust hemlock]

[turbid badge]

until u break it ig

[robust hemlock]

but she can chose another one

not down one first

[turbid badge]

huh

idk i just deploy my weedy on the tile after phase 2 so she encased everything into that pulsing ball

[robust hemlock]

ah....

she turns on all orbs

[turbid badge]

if i deploy b4 it fucks up the pathing

[robust hemlock]

on phase 2

[turbid badge]

Ye

[robust hemlock]

i hate this event xD

but at least it easier then ling one

[turbid badge]

goes smooth

stall giving me cc vibes

[lethal dragon]

Just don't stall

Silence her and kill

[flat sapphire]

Silence? Just kill

[lethal dragon]

Good Idea

Hnmm

[robust hemlock]

whats doin kal tsit anyway?

left down

[crystal cargo]

How do I beat cw ex 5

[weak gazelle]

what that map look again?

[crystal cargo]

With the rocket car things

[weak gazelle]

decel binder would help
angelina & istina for example

or play indigo

[tidal sedge]

Set gravity to up to slow the rockets, keep the guards off the down switch

[weak gazelle]

or timing suzu s3 and let your dps kill them

[crystal cargo]

Ok

[tidal sedge]

Suzu is kinda overkill, GG can solo every rocket so the dps needed isn't that severe, but additional slows could be nice

[weak gazelle]

well, i am outdated with current 6* so yeah
cause me only use meteorite for left side
and executor+greyyter right side

[cyan gorge]

I used Rockrock on left, Indigo on right

[weak gazelle]

harmonie would laugh on right side
sad i didnt have her tho

[crystal cargo]

Gg worked

My vanguards actually helped out a lot

[robust hemlock]

idk what i do.....but i want to do smting

i rlly dont know what need for kristen xd

[crisp bolt]

You might need some healing

When the balls explode, they kind of hurt

[turbid badge]

no aoe medic ded

[crisp bolt]

Trying to cope boss stage with skalter regen

[robust hemlock]

skalter

man....

what the....

i dont fkin understand nothing here

[crisp bolt]

The balls give boss damage reduction and block count

[glass monolith]

Is that this phase 1?

[crisp bolt]

Wait is that phase 1?

[robust hemlock]

I DONT FKIN UNDERSTAND NOTHING

who move the ball????

i dont even touch the buttons

[glass monolith]

Boss LOCKS ball in place

[robust hemlock]

she moved down ball on top for fkin no reason

[crisp bolt]

You moved the ball with chalter?

[robust hemlock]

no

i tryin to put it back cz of boss

[crisp bolt]

I've never had that happen in my run

[glass monolith]

Only 2 ways that balls is physically goes top is if you somehow press UP or has Thorns charging off it

Because balls pushed in direction of looking and Thorns only one who can look up for reason

[crisp bolt]

Also not nuking the boss phase 1

[glass monolith]

Pozy + Warf kill her on CM And this is why we get hyper inflation stats bosses now (Before first ball capture and shield boys arriving)

[crisp bolt]

I did it with kal + texalter

[robust hemlock]

omg

crazy shitty stage

how to do it normally i have no idea

• gg for some reason focus down left ball instead of enemies

[crisp bolt]

Ball has taunt

[south bone]

Fuckk i hate myself

can't draw ops + no more dps

stall time

[robust hemlock]

AAAAAH

i cant even dmg her

what the hell

WHY ALL DEAD

[versed arrow]

this is phase 1 or phase 2 boss?

[robust hemlock]

idk what the fuckin reason when she become phase 2 she move all balls on top

and kill all field

[versed arrow]

look at pic, your up switch is on

[robust hemlock]

and?

[versed arrow]

so ball move up

[robust hemlock]

the ball is locked

how the fuxk it goes up

[south bone]

She unlocked all the balls first during phase transition

then locked them all again when entering 2nd phase

those unlocked balls deals global arts dmg

[versed arrow]

the up switch on + ^ explains how it happens to you

[glass monolith]

Switch Twitch issue

[robust hemlock]

event issue at all

[glass monolith]

No, Event issue is when you walk into DV and it send fucking 6 balls at you, each of which has DR when not blocked, does ton of damage, and has more defense than Kris in this event

[south bone]

I remember those goddamn orbs annoying af

[near folio]

DV-EX 8 CM was a nightmare for lower rarity squads

Rocket Suits

[robust hemlock]

WTF

she explodes twice????? ??

[south bone]

Yes?

could be more than that

[near folio]

Every ball u kill during phase 2 will explode

[glass monolith]

Explode all balls when phase 1 ends, explode all balls when phase 2 ends. During phase 2 each ball kill explodes it separately from rest

[south bone]

and explode all locked balls when defeated in phase 2

[robust hemlock]

why the fuck they do that?

[near folio]

They just do

[glass monolith]

To give idiots who leveled Puzzle somethig to do

[near folio]

What you want to do is either stall phase 1 and try to isolate her ball spawn at one spot

[versed arrow]

either you kill balls first or you use ng s3 to survive

[south bone]

Literally me

[near folio]

She always spawns a ball at the tile furthest from her

[vernal lion]

nah it's not event nightmare when they send out 2 ROCKET LAUNCHER right from the beginning

[glass monolith]

Jokes on you. Shamare doll at balls

[near folio]

Rocket Suits omg

[glass monolith]

I will cook

[near folio]

I hate those

They are such huge statchecks

And the only way to kill them is having enough damage

[vernal lion]

S stage built different

[crisp bolt]

Luckily statchecks is what I'm built for

[robust hemlock]

why the hell u tell me that only now?....

ez

[glass monolith]

What if i Gladiia S1 top robot toward bottom one and then continiously Phantom top ball down?

[versed arrow]

cause you didnt ask, also if you have uncle just use him in earlier attempt, his power of knowledge(reading newspaper) kill quite fast. Good luck on cm, the dp cost makes you try new strat

I yolo-ed in normal ex 8, then cm is like 'ok I need to make new strat cause half my squad used in normal cost so much dp now'

[glass monolith]

CM: Do something else
Me: Min Max shit out of my initial strategy

[south bone]

Tbf the only problematic dp cost will be mudrock and surtr

[robust hemlock]

.....

[verbal sparrow]

Mumu S3 is stupidly long bind.

[robust hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/beako-beatrice-spit-tea-spill-anime-gif-19804080

[versed arrow]

i warned you

[robust hemlock]

no no no no no

nah

[boreal magnet]

good luck

[near folio]

Me: Sure I'll keep using 3 defenders

[near folio]

Honestly the triple dp isnt that bad even for 99 dp ops

[south bone]

Just bring more vanguards smh

[near folio]

The stage gives you a lot of time to build up dp since its easy to isolate and stall Kristen

Once you kill all wave 1 mobs

[vernal lion]

dev: "I will make CM with x3 cost so they will matter it."
gamer: "And I took that personality..."
dev: "Hmm, should has banned it too."

[near folio]

Defenders are my favourite class in AK

Block count stalling is one of my favourite strats

[vernal lion]

back to the day when you were stalling EB...

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EB made me raise heavyrain cause fart control is too much effort