strategy

[tidal sedge]

'Block juggling' if you care for that sort of thing

[warm hornet]

Oh yeah, but does not seem very useful quite niche even.

Well for now, let's just hope something good comes out of levitate in the future.

[tidal sedge]

It's rare but there are enemies vulnerable to it but not other kinds of cc

[near folio]

We need to levitate our own melee ops to make them block low altitude hoverers

[tidal sedge]

Lucian for example

[warm hornet]

Could be possible for event mechanics.

[tidal sedge]

lol, would it work for SL mist I wonder

[warm hornet]

Ranged enemies are not as frequent as melee, so maybe if we had a ranged attack booster or specialist on that sort of thing, there would be a potential meta for levitate.

[jovial nest]

Time to do the remaining SSS missions so I don't have to think about them in the future

[near folio]

Well the only general use I can see out of levitate is making anti air snipers prioritise them

[warm hornet]

Hmmm

[jovial nest]

the Aegirian one is annoying. It's basically making me use the weakest equipment on 2 challenging SSS maps

also why are Traffic Towers not abused? I'm guessing it would be too toxic of an enemy type to spam?

[tidal sedge]

Bulky, hard to block, and have ranged attacks

Yeah I'd rather not see that as a mob

1500 atk at 1.5 second interval is high offense as well

[pearl musk]

Ex 8 is hard. I get leaks on both sides can help me pls I have extreme skill issue

[tidal sedge]

Honestly they remind me of reefbreakers in that way

Oh and detonation upon death at 2x atk scale

Yeah these guys are overtuned for no real reason

With the detonation I don't get why they have innate ranged, 3000-3600 atk detonation upon death would kill any ranged op anyways

Gotta double fuck over decels ig

[jovial nest]

i mean geez, that explosion has a decent range too

it's 2 tile radius based on how my Thorns died in EX-7

[tidal sedge]

1.25 radius, so it can reach 2 tiles in a sense if they're to the side of the tile they're on

[high shard]

Which operators from my roster should i use to make annihilation 19 as easy as possible and also what are the placements and the placement order
https://imgur.com/a/SY99IwK

[tidal sedge]

Same radius as ice slugs iirc

[jovial nest]

one tip is, don't touch the Bot, and just clog the single entryway to the left

[high shard]

This is the map btw

[jovial nest]

1.5. Imo too big already

[tidal sedge]

Unfortunately I haven't gotten there. Spent all my practice plans toying with other maps already

[tidal sedge]

Hm. I must have misremembered

[high shard]

Cw ex 8

?

[jovial nest]

I'm basing it off of ice slugs freezing ops behind the ones that blocked the slugs

memories of Anni5

in a way there's a double edge to the sweep of anni

everyone likes that you no longer have to auto annis due to how long they are

but in turn i kinda miss a bit trying to refine the best auto i can make for it

[tidal sedge]

Oh wait. I got it's atk interval wrong. It's a much more reasonable 5 seconds

[jovial nest]

it still nukes anyone close to it

Surtr almost died and triggered her immortality too early haha

[robust hemlock]

wtf is this lvl?????

[jovial nest]

one tip

don't hug the blue exits

another is to keep the Down button

and just let the bot do the work keeping the top left ball blocked

that way, enemies only have 1 entrance

[vernal lion]

lore accurate fr

[high shard]

Which operators from my roster should i use to make annihilation 19 as easy as possible and also what are the placements and the placement order
https://imgur.com/a/SY99IwK

[robust hemlock]

omg.....

i hate this shit

[vernal lion]

[vernal lion]

have you tried the anni yet

[high shard]

Nope

[eager gate]

Weedy is so cracked on that map

[high shard]

Its also my first time encountering the anni enemies

[jovial nest]

makes sense

LE is so long ago

[eager gate]

at least try it first, for all you know it's piss easy 1try

[jovial nest]

also

[high shard]

Possible to afk with my current roster?

[jovial nest]

Annis are always free sanity as long as you close the app

[jovial nest]

don't bother AFKing this one

well there ARE AFK videos about it

but if you're asking here

that means you don't have a huge variety of ops?

[high shard]

I havent collected the ops mostly used for afk strategies yet

[eager gate]

They literally just posted a pic with like 20 meta 6*s e2d

[jovial nest]

do you know what i mean by huge variety?

also...

I see no Myrtle or Flagbearer built....

[eager gate]

No, frankly I don't. Yet I think that what I saw there is an easy overpower of the stage

[vernal lion]

0-100 is fine, but enemies go rushing a bit
100-200 is only tricky with surprised slug spam, then golem spam,
200-300 is trumpet guy, mask caster and violin dude spam,
300-350 is big ass caster, and with red enemy spam,
350-400 is Dame Gertrude and her final show

[high shard]

Its a link

It shows my other ops

[jovial nest]

oh

sigh

[high shard]

Lol I was confused

[jovial nest]

pls don't bother sorting by rarity unless you can build an E0 lvl 1 6* to an E2 40 SL7

[high shard]

Is 350-400 really hard

[jovial nest]

there's a golem rush

that victimized a ton of old players into leaking

[vernal lion]

it's hard when many enemies rushing at the same time

[high shard]

Mudrock golems?

[jovial nest]

LE colossi

heavily armored dudes

[vernal lion]

yea we have le golem

2 block

high def and res

but got nerf when stay inside the light beam

[eager gate]

first caster wave is like at 240 iirc, may be important to note cause they crush red camp strat

[high shard]

Ifrit is a key operator then?

[south bone]

I almost leaked one of the golem once

[vernal lion]

those casters are for anti-spawncamp lmao

just use long range attack

[high shard]

Maybe i should clear it next time when i get saria and other afk ops

Is anni 18 easy?

The robots one

[jovial nest]

hmmmm, so this is the 6 ops AFK but yeah you're missing a lot of pieces so lets not bother with this one.

[eager gate]

All of the recent annis were pretty easy, they just surprise players all of a sudden with unexpected things which causes resets

[jovial nest]

only this LE one was pretty special for me as an old player

[high shard]

Im missing ops like saria mountain blaze or like gg or eyja

[jovial nest]

cause LE is such an annoying mechanic you'd rather try to ignore if possible

[high shard]

I also tried to get ling before and failed so i took a long rest and came back during mlynar

[jovial nest]

strictly speaking if you want the majority of low difficulty laning experiences, it's Ling and Skalter

[vernal lion]

this is kinda, ugh, easy
just use long ranged attack or spam specialist

you don't want to wait for them to get near to you lol

[jovial nest]

do not forget

they can't borrow

or else they can't sweep

[vernal lion]

yea

[high shard]

I wont though

Its fine to borrow for me

[jovial nest]

.....well then

borrow Ling

[high shard]

I farm lungmen downtown

[vernal lion]

so the main problem is you have to try the map first

[jovial nest]

why?

[high shard]

Idk got used to it

[jovial nest]

i mean

you need less runs maxing the weekly cap if you do the latest anni

iirc the older ones by this point are one-offs you clear once

and the best repeatable are always the latest

[eager gate]

iirc doing the latest map saves like uuuugh 7 sanity?

[jovial nest]

well

it used to be a bigger deal

[high shard]

I dont have sanity problems since i dont bother clearing the event shop anyways

[jovial nest]

when we had to auto annis

cause it was one less run

[deft rock]

Hello. I here for ask one quest. What I need do for cw-10 override quest

[jovial nest]

iirc the CW-10 quest is just

kill her phase 1 asap before she starts making more stars

[high shard]

Nothing i completed it by letting her live long enough

[jovial nest]

problem solved

[high shard]

Ye that too

[deft rock]

I do twice but not finished

[high shard]

Basically kill her as soon as she steps out the. Let her walk around

[jovial nest]

can you screenshot the mission

[high shard]

Its let kristen override the balls 5 times

[vernal lion]

game exactly says boss has "override" skill tho

[deft rock]

Alright

[high shard]

Its the easiest mission above 20%

[jovial nest]

NO MORE THAN

[high shard]

Ohhhh

[jovial nest]

and Kristen immediately makes 3 of em in Phase 2

just kill her phase 1 asap

[high shard]

Yeah

[vernal lion]

"no more than" = "at most"

[jovial nest]

5 or less

[high shard]

Dont disturb the override balls ig

[jovial nest]

btw

which one should I go for for these? Mama John's? I don't know how hard Raythean is without the healing barrier

plus the equipment will most likely be ignored by me

[weak gazelle]

ok, manage up to this point
still, it took forever

[vernal lion]

both are fine, depended on how well you have played those maps

[jovial nest]

hmmmm

[vernal lion]

but Mama boss is a bit harder than Raythean

[high shard]

Right cause better material

[near folio]

Now you can wait for the two balls to despawn

[jovial nest]

dude I'm doing both....

[high shard]

Ohh

[weak gazelle]

already reach p2 with 2 ball left
it just how i manage 2 lane on left side

[tidal sedge]

Enforcer usage, nice.

[vernal lion]

btw if Enforcer can't push enemy, at least they will get stunned too, right?

[near folio]

Maybe bring in krooster to destroy top ball then flick up switch

[near folio]

Yes, the stun is tied to the skill itself

[weak gazelle]

yeah i pick enforcer instead of feater
just for a change tbh

no my limit is 10 slot

easy win if i use 11 slot

[vernal lion]

Enforcer for stun, FEater for slow

[near folio]

Well then, goodluck

[tidal sedge]

Greyyter

[high shard]

Is shaw enough to push the enemies on the left side or should i borrow a weedy

[weak gazelle]

greyyter was real good for 5* power level

[near folio]

Did u get the push force buff?

From investigation

[tidal sedge]

He's my next raise once I get the lmd

[near folio]

Actually u could get away with redeploying absinthe face up for the ball

[weak gazelle]

mod leave it at lvl 1 if happen to give him module

[near folio]

Not sure if she kills in time though

[tidal sedge]

Yeah. I'm more interested in using him for slow than damage, so I'm going mod1 at most

[weak gazelle]

yeah im thinking that too
redeploy absinthe

[tidal sedge]

Especially with how few module blocks I have

6*s are so greedy

[weak gazelle]

the extra dmg on slowed enemies is exclusively for him
sadly not a slow amp

[near folio]

My next raise im thinking either scene or Bibeak

[tidal sedge]

I already buy the monthly module blocks

[jovial nest]

red certs are now for data blocks, not glue

it's that much of a problem

[near folio]

I forgot when I last bought glue

At some point I got a lot of glue

[jovial nest]

i still did

I still have a lot of 5-6* ops that need raising

[near folio]

I forgot when I got the surplus of glue

But hasnt run out ever since

[weak gazelle]

bibeak was good choice
that lady have a cracked mod and m6 worthy
as far as 5* power level goes tho

[jovial nest]

events, logins, etc.

but still

they always run out for me

[near folio]

Yeah im gonna need an operator that can take care of herself if im gonna do challenge run

Cant always go split roles like individual tanks and dps

[jovial nest]

for eg, these ate up a ton of glue. Already have this planned for ops i plan to raise up to Adele

glue surplus only an issue to those that don't have to raise everyone

[near folio]

Oh crap

I only have 9 glue left

I havent been keeping track

[jovial nest]

either way, I need to go back to red cert farming once I've cleaned the CW shop

[lethal dragon]

Tf

[jovial nest]

Alloy at 175+, Aketon at 175, and Solvent at 150+

I think I'm fine

[near folio]

Im done with tryharding in lone trail

Im just gonna mlynar every S stage

And EX 1-7 CM

[jovial nest]

tryharding is using Mlynar

tryhard means 100% full power no restraints

[near folio]

[tidal sedge]

the EX-7 CM made me feel like i'm sisyphus

[eager gate]

what triggers cars to start spawning on cw ex 8?

[jovial nest]

EX-7 CM is just a stats check. Never an issue for older players

heh

[near folio]

Phase 2

They are the second wave that comes after kristen transforms

[jovial nest]

I recommend you just let Phase 2 rock asap

it's hard to delay Kristen's Phase 1

she keeps making stars

[near folio]

Its not hard if you have to setup

[jovial nest]

and her pathing will slowly but surely end

[eager gate]

It's weird. 1 run they appear long after I killed Kristen, I had time to stall biggies with weedy

another run they fucking appeared as soon as I finished kristen off

[jovial nest]

keeping the stars at a low count is the difficult one

[jovial nest]

it's gated by phase 2 but it's also after some enemies have already spawned as well

they appear iirc in the 43 enemies killed mark....

[near folio]

You can use Cuora or a block 4 to make life easier

Cuora skill always comes in time whenever there are 3 balls on field

[tidal sedge]

i'm relatively new so my brain isn't developed long enough for this

[jovial nest]

if you managed to do that you still killed phase 1 at a good time

[near folio]

Yeah I did

[jovial nest]

cause you were able to kill 2 phase 2 stars when that happened

[near folio]

I stalled all the way until the balls on the right disappear

[jovial nest]

Kristen's pathing is a clock

and you don't want phase 2 delayed

imagine if you just killed Kristen's phase 1 way late

and she's about to go to exit with 4 stars

its close to over

[near folio]

If you kill p1 late you have to wait 999 seconds

Thats when the balls will despawn

And only 2 balls remain

[eager gate]

killing her by the time she reaches first stop should be real for any comp I think?

[near folio]

So u only need 3 block to stop kristen in p2 at MAX

[jovial nest]

how?

how are only 2 balls spawned or alive?

on a late phase 1 kill?

[near folio]

If you are killing phase 1 late thats why you wait for 999 seconds

[foggy grove]

the balls took pity on you and despawn

[deft rock]

What I did wrong for quest?

[jovial nest]

now....

IMAGINE

If Kristen's map spawns Traffic Tower mechs

[near folio]

Here

The balls on the right despawn

[jovial nest]

sigh....

[near folio]

After 999 seconds from starting the stage

[jovial nest]

bug aboos

[near folio]

I dont think its a bug

Its definitely intentional

[jovial nest]

dude

[near folio]

If its a bug all 4 balls would be gone

[jovial nest]

it's still unintentional imo

the conditions are so specific

[deft rock]

Guys what I did wrong for Override quest?

[jovial nest]

and there's no mention of that interaction in her desc

[near folio]

Thats true

But since its part of the game we can still use it to our advantage

Its like using shaw in NL-EX-8

You can redirect the blood blades by pushing them into your spawn

But you dont take damage even if they go into the blue box

[jovial nest]

didyou not read the part where i mentioned to kill her phase 1 ASAP?

[deft rock]

I trying do this mission

[jovial nest]

AT MOST

you know what AT MOST means?

its either you make her create 5 stars or LOWER or you fail

[near folio]

That means u can only afford 2 overrides in phase 1

Since her transition creates 3 stars

[deft rock]

Thanks

[jovial nest]

that phase 1 better only have 2 stars made

[polar crane]

[jovial nest]

or less

or none at all

[polar crane]

google "at most"

[jovial nest]

like i said

DESTROY her phase 1 ASAP.

actually....just use your usual CW-10 auto if it kills her phase 1 fast

[deft rock]

Do you have good idea for how I can do?

[near folio]

Put Mlynar at red box

[polar crane]

mlynar kill her

[near folio]

Press skill

Win

[polar crane]

you make mlynar sound like a cheat sheet

[jovial nest]

i'm seeing no E2s on their video

thats an issue imo

[polar crane]

[jovial nest]

they can only borrow E1s

[deft rock]

I no have mlyner

[jovial nest]

and the only E1 monsters i know are Ifrit and Blaze and Gavialter

[deft rock]

My friends too no have mlyner

[jovial nest]

possibly Mudrock

[near folio]

Yeah they arent killing kristen in time

[jovial nest]

the thign is

he could've killed Kristen faster on that video

if they bothered to activate Lin's abilities

[near folio]

Oh wtf we using Lava as dps?

[jovial nest]

dude

do you not see the lack of E2s?

looks like a new player squad

[waxen swan]

Seeing is lying

[near folio]

Well he does have amiya

Also yeah that Lin on idle mode

[jovial nest]

Lava is a natural raise if you didn't ever get a Gitano

[deft rock]

I have These operators

[jovial nest]

just do what you did on that video. Except actually use your ops abilities to kill Kristen faster

[jovial nest]

one tip

I suggest you e2 one of your operators

that way you can start borrowing E2 ops from friends

[near folio]

Yes

[jovial nest]

lack good friends? Go to #friend-id

[near folio]

E2 Reed alter since she is the closest

[deft rock]

Alright

[jovial nest]

yeah

Reedter is your best E2 target

WAIT

WAIRT

[deft rock]

I used lin and reed but kristen died fast and I died from other enemies

[jovial nest]

they have E2 LAPP

go to #friend-id ask for Mlynar friends

[near folio]

I think they just E2'd her

[deft rock]

Lappland ability max

I maxed from base too

[near folio]

Get her to lvl 30 at least

More stats for low cost

[jovial nest]

so anyways

one tip is everytime you E2 someone

bring them to lvl 40

it's cheap

and adds a lot of stats

can't afford? try to go to lvl 30

either way

[deft rock]

Okay

[jovial nest]

with Lappland, you can borrow an E2 Mlynar

no Mlynar friends? Ask for some in #friend-id

[near folio]

Can also use Kaltsit friends if you have

[unreal oar]

CW-EX-8 challenge is killing me

[near folio]

Did you know you can make 2 balls disappear

[jovial nest]

Mlynar is easier

[unreal oar]

well they time out if you take too long

[near folio]

Yes but they will still block the mobs

[quaint brook]

so i went to this fully blind and didnt know what kinda stage is this gonna be and it's actually hard with the lineup that i currently have

so whats the strat for this

[fiery marsh]

How you ate the balls?

[jovial nest]

My purist gamer integrity refuses to use an ingame interaction such as ball disappearances

[near folio]

[near folio]

I dont think giving Shaw a push force of 8 is very pure either

[unreal oar]

but lightsaber doods are just too much...

[jovial nest]

[near folio]

Did u do the investigations and get a buff that increases ur operator's push force by 5?

[unreal oar]

every time they show up something goes wrong

and there are 3 instances where some spawn

[unreal oar]

ye

[jovial nest]

i don't remember using Shaw

is there a weird interaction with her?

[timid egret]

anyone have some guide for CW-EX-8 CM (but without using Eyjafjalla, Skalter, Goldenglow, Texalter, Mlynar)?
most of the video from youtube is using all of it and i dont have them
i can kill Kristen on CW-EX-8 with Thorns, Ch'en Alter, Ceobe, Gnosis

[near folio]

Its because if u do investigation u get a buff that increase operator push force by 5

[jovial nest]

thats normal and planned. You know whats not planned? Ball disappearing

either way

use it if you think EX-8 is that much of a problem

cause it WILL be a problem in S-4

6 balls

[near folio]

https://youtu.be/BdZJ8cgqQgg?si=fnCeyY06RFueVVZp

I have one with Saria, Silence alter and Ifrit

[quaint brook]

why is noone playing sss sadge

[near folio]

Actually I dont know if S4 will have ball disappearances

[jovial nest]

good

[unreal oar]

im mostly here for moral support. i know what i must do. its just that i have to do on point deployments. in three parts of the stage. and every time its because light saber doods.

[near folio]

All I know is that I will just Mlynar that stage

[jovial nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648597785444220941/1175073482216853525/image.png?ex=6569e775&is=65577275&hm=8858cee71470aabcf9a807156cd2aca2920caf7c776474c40062e1c24461f3bc&EXCUSE

[timid egret]

i will try this one, thank you

[near folio]

The extra cm stats really make the lightsaber guys hit hard

[unreal oar]

i use this as ref https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHjypOXLiwg

but man, its such a bumpy ride

for me

[near folio]

Dont worry I malded with a 19 min clear

[jovial nest]

yeah there's a reason none of the guys here will recommend a 3 or 4* only clear

its always ALWAYS so long

and straining

[fringe jackal]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1b24y1K76z/ if an idiot like me can beat the stage after watching this strat, you will be fine. The two balls on the right disappear if you stall kirsten for 999 seconds because they disappear after not being pushed for that time

[near folio]

One mistake and u are gone

[unreal oar]

i have flashbacks from fighting EX challenge Ya. i think i sat on that stage for 18 hours straight

[jovial nest]

JT8-3 3* clear was still insane

I still remember its madness

[near folio]

The problem with EX-8 is that Kristen moves the the blue box way too fast

[jovial nest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-CQNyxzimk

[near folio]

You have to figure out how to stall her early which means killing some balls while you get charged by lightsaber doods

[jovial nest]

maintaining Kristen Phase 1 is such an annoyance. I should know cause i attempted a goofy low trust clear of CW-10. Basically that clear is how i learned about all of Kristen's gimmicks

[timid egret]

thank you

[unreal oar]

i think Ling E2 lv90 S3M2 that i borrow is just slightly too weak

making the pressure too great

[jovial nest]

ehhhhhh

[near folio]

Thats in 1x speed

[jovial nest]

9 mins

[near folio]

If you play in 2x its more like 499.5 seconds

[jovial nest]

at least

[near folio]

Yep around 9 min if you alternate 1x and 2x like me

[near folio]

Yeah I dont like how she doesnt have any pauses in EX-8

Once you miss your chance to stall her before she goes into the tunnel your run is as good as dead

[fringe jackal]

Fyi you can lanehold on the right with kaltsit or mudrock or something it's way easier than using a ling dragon. Also you can drop texalter and yatoalter silverash reduces redeployment time of ling summons, perfumer passively heals summons and use vanguards to print dp asap reducing margin of error

[south bone]

Goddamn i hate Mama John's LT-6

the mob rush is too much

[jovial nest]

one tip

for EX8

try to adapt a no/cheap guard/defender team

cause CM triples the cost on those

[fringe jackal]

unless double flagpepe cheat

But yeah pick something cheap

Or else the suffering

The suffering is real

[sharp wadi]

Flagpepe sucks now

Add extra ines and ez

[south bone]

Use puzzle s2 trust

[sharp wadi]

Ines can outdp lee

And just kill those bullshity sword

[jovial nest]

Still using Myrtle cause of my redep wants

Ines can join though

[sharp wadi]

With ines you can play same strat just find the way to deal with secret cm stat up

[crisp bolt]

kal is really good in cm

[sharp wadi]

Yeah if you didn't use lee

[crisp bolt]

defender with a medic tag

[sharp wadi]

Use the together can beat boss but leak instead

[sharp wadi]

Kal heal is piss

And monster die in 3 swords

[crisp bolt]

are we talking about different fights

since she worked really well for what I was doing

[sharp wadi]

Ex8 what's wrong

[jovial nest]

I'm imagining.....

[south bone]

swords? the jedi?

[crisp bolt]

oh those guys

[south bone]

just use pusher lol

[jovial nest]

module lvl3 differences?

[crisp bolt]

just use a pusher for those guys

[jovial nest]

unless it's EX-7 wherein the jedis only appear in a specific spot, I'm not bringing a shifter just for 1 enemy type

[crisp bolt]

they do appear at a specific spot

[jovial nest]

problem is it was easier to filter them out in EX-7

[sharp wadi]

I didn't use other pusher beside lee I hate timing so I use lee and save timing for tex 2 drop

[south bone]

they can also push other enemies like the screenguards if u somehow haven't killed them

[crisp bolt]

I used lin to block the jedi

(lin not ling)

[sharp wadi]

Well I use lin for those dozen of shield at top

[vernal lion]

fun fact,
when p2 Kristen has entered the tunnel, the star will stop sparking (stop attacking in 8 tiles around)

[sharp wadi]

Yeah just don't break bottom left ball and fine

[vernal lion]

tbh I found normal strat is harder than... full burst strat???

or maybe because I played nuking boss a lot and it turns out to be easy for me?

[jovial nest]

"normal" strat

[south bone]

what does normal means here

[vernal lion]

normal as a tower defense game ofc lol

[jovial nest]

i can only assume it's the 999 sec strat

cause passively fighting Kristen isn't recommended

[south bone]

That's not normal

[vernal lion]

TD Balloons belike

[south bone]

I stall her too but not even that long damn

[tidal sedge]

Why is this inconsistent

[vernal lion]

I mean, just look at this shit

weird shit

[sharp wadi]

Skalter

[tidal sedge]

I'm gonna be mortified if I look up Enforcer's stun mechanics on prts aren't I

[vernal lion]

yes balloon goes crazy

[jovial nest]

"What is Bloons Tower Defense 6?
It is when you can physically no longer see what you're doing." - Sseth

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648597785444220941/1167462999305486427/image.png?ex=6569e725&is=65577225&hm=2f55bd89c9733446d212e6aa2b19aa7d93749865c83c5bb12bf2dcd9e4a9913c&

[vernal lion]

I mean, that is about quantity now lol

just have some heavy carry monkey and then afk

[jovial nest]

My Weedy S2M3 ass laughing

[deft badger]

lol the hell xD

[vernal lion]

you know Ling event is slightly like TD Balloon enemies?

you kill it with big number? no no no
you kill it with EACH number of hit

[deft badger]

never played TD balloon

arknights is the 2nd phone game in my life 😄

[vernal lion]

like, if the balloon has 100 hp, you need to attack 100 times to kill it

the same goes to Ling event

[glass monolith]

Look at this shit. Final wave arrived before boss reached stairs because Manticore

[vernal lion]

can't wait to see another boss that wants to be a ball

[deft badger]

u mean like those?

[vernal lion]

yes

that's how Balloon TD works

[tidal sedge]

Hm. No weird jank to find on prts about it

[jovial nest]

IS4 alt ending boss sweating

[glass monolith]

IS4 boss is like gacha

[deft badger]

i am kinder missing the days of warcraft tower defense 🙂

bit older here prob most of the people don't even know what i am talking about lol

[deft rock]

I use this team for cw-10 override quest but I lost

[vernal lion]

boss goes kame hame move

[deft badger]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-itadori-yuuji-itadori-yuji-black-flash-jjk-gif-20447095

[glass monolith]

But is he sleep immune?

[lethal dragon]

Jjk fans spotted
Commence immediate execution

[lethal dragon]

Oh look it's the Pollution boss

[vernal lion]

it's Fart Lord v2

[deft badger]

atm split between kimetsu no yaiba, jujutsu kaisen, hells paradise, the eminence in shadow when it comes to this year 🙂

but he did say kame hame, my first thought was black flash 😄

[deft rock]

Guys someone can tell me how I can handle cw-10 override quest

I wasted few hours and sanity.

I can't do

[jovial nest]

wasting sanity?

dude, youre still farming alloy

also have you not borrowed Mlynar?

[deft rock]

I found max mlynar from my friend

[jovial nest]

and its on S3?

[jovial nest]

good

so you easily kill Kristen's phase 1?

after that try to kill the balls

Kristen becomes high block and tanky af if the balls are "stars"

the stars will act like those defenders

[deft rock]

Yeah

[jovial nest]

tanky until enough hits are taken

[deft rock]

Mlysan little bit broken but he dies from phase 2

[jovial nest]

just need to recruit defenders.....sigh.
Last time I have to self-sabotage my SSS runs

[deft rock]

I have these defenders

[jovial nest]

so redeploy him

do not forget...

Kristen does arts

defenders do jackshit

[deft rock]

Not enough time for redeploy

[jovial nest]

pick a high HP ground ops

[jovial nest]

remove him after he kills Phase 1

why is this an issue? block Kristen in phase 2

[deft rock]

Idk I use cuora's skill for block her

Other way she ain't stopping

[jovial nest]

what did i tell you about the stars?

kill em

it increases her block count

each

[deft rock]

But I need let 5 star

[jovial nest]

AT MOST

what does AT MOST mean?

5 or LESS

kill Kristen's Phase 1 asap

retreat Mlynar once that happens

kill AT LEAST 2 stars

kill Kristen

DONE

[deft rock]

This most annoying quest

Nvm thanks for help I gonna try last time

Last question how I can kill arc fortliner easily?

[vernal lion]

the quest allows you to let Kristen override the number of ball at maximum of 5

then from 0 to 5, the quest will be completed,
but starting from 6 and above, it's failed

[deft rock]

I know what's mean most

[vernal lion]

in short word, just burst Kristen phase 1 please

[jovial nest]

then why do you keep saying you have to make Kristen do 5?

you did not get it

[cinder pike]

does DOT (BP poison) count toward the -def on hit tanks

[deft rock]

First phase I gonna let 2 star

Second phase I gonna let 3 star

[jovial nest]

JUST KILL HER ASAP

[deft rock]

Ok?

[vernal lion]

dude, you just need to kill her ASAP

A S A P

[jovial nest]

YOU WIN IF SHE ONLY MAKES 3 STARS

[deft badger]

whats this medal for?

[jovial nest]

3 years of AK

[deft badger]

see a lot of people with it

[deft rock]

Quest

[jovial nest]

ASAP = AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

just kill Kristen's Phase 1 the moment she pops out

[vernal lion]

you can even go full buff Eben and do crazy thing on her

in both 2 phases

[deft rock]

Bro

If you say that at start

Probably I already done this quest

[jovial nest]

did you not ask at all what ASAP means?

[cinder pike]

[jovial nest]

if you did not know about it?

you could've searched it in google ffs

[vernal lion]

dude is not good at English

[jovial nest]

should i tell you what FFS means?

[noble pewter]

Borrow surtr instead of mlynar, she kills faster, cause mlynar u prob not enuf dp to set him up fast enuf to get the charge, that's why u unable kill her b4 she get 2 balls

[deft badger]

since i don't know which to flex lets just go with this lol

[jovial nest]

just ask what you don't understand

[grave thistle]

Flex in salt-mines not here

[jovial nest]

cc9 trim, VW gold medal, Lisk CC, IW gold medal, CC12 trim, Mama John's hard mode, VW trim?, CW EX medal, IW trim, Raythean hard mode

heh

[deft rock]

I can use elite 2 lvl 54 surtr

From my friend

[noble pewter]

Best lv90 s3m3 n activate earlier b4 she spawn from red bx

[deft badger]

that just shows how much i don't care about medals lol xD
but as a liskarm lover her medal must be in it 😛

[noble pewter]

Make gravity face up n surtr camp vertical red bx so she have incr atk spd

[jovial nest]

you already have a lvl 90 Mlynar...

Kristen has a shittier DEF than RES

[noble pewter]

https://youtu.be/MSKCo_kCUCM?feature=shared this was how I did it, I tried with mlynar but since units r weak it is hard to set him up in time to do maximum dmg n by then Kristen will walk all over n capture 2 ball or more thus mission fail

If u have flag n fast dp generation probably mlynar is good pick, but for newer players need to hold the mobs 1st, dp is precious n may not be able to set up mlynar properly

Then again maybe i wasn't trying hard enuf, shud have been able squeeze 12 dp to put down mlynar earlier somewhere maybe

[deft rock]

This game lucky. If rain won't start probably I no care this quest right now

[cinder pike]

you could also take a break from the game, I am still doing the quests and I am 120

[tidal sedge]

Need help for pr-d-2

Idh a solid lord

[cinder pike]

whats the primary issue?

[tidal sedge]

Veteran loggers

My ansel is also not built too much

I have sussurro

Thats why

[cinder pike]

are you shifting the enemies into the holes/cliffs

[tidal sedge]

Thats the squad

I am

As u can see

[deft badger]

kinder to lazy to use my brain... ( its not like i have one )
@glass monolith help

[tidal sedge]

I tried kyo's strat but tanker died

@cinder pike what to do

[near basalt]

No healing defenders

[latent anvil]

Mlynar

[deft badger]

well i know that much xD

lol

[cinder pike]

which tank died lol

[latent anvil]

goldenglow can kill drones if you don't wanna redeploy mlynar alot

[cinder pike]

I assume left side tanker?

[tidal sedge]

Yea

[deft badger]

have to do a run to see spawns first, i will be back 😄

[tidal sedge]

Ima tey again hold on

Wait

Maybe i can do it

Oh shit hold up

[cinder pike]

try throw more bodies at it

like estelle

[tidal sedge]

Tgis time i did better

I just needed damage

Oh wait

I see what you mean

..

[cinder pike]

also swap nearl and another defender

nearl brings her own healing

Tea apple sauce can heal the tiles behind her

[near basalt]

No need for yato swap another defender and place it left top

[tidal sedge]

Wdym

Who should i remove aside nearl

Idh any other defenders built

Even to just e1 1

[near basalt]

Place another defender

[near basalt]

Then cutter to fast kill and S1 to damage

[glass monolith]

Why Nearl one in range of medic but Liskarm alone

[versed arrow]

do you have 0 lords? even midnight or lapp works, put on top, the tile the invi mob is in the pic. And bring more defenders so you can drop down and block some enemies if you see lots of mobs incoming and you are still trying to kill the ones blocked by your defender.

[cinder pike]

you know healing defenders, they are less tanky, so you have to provide healing for the increased phys they take

[tidal sedge]

As seen in the picture above my arene is just lv45

E0

[tidal sedge]

Ah..

[versed arrow]

its kinda too early for you then imo, seems like most of your options for the stage are unraised/underleveled, try again when the ops are around e1 40 or so. Why are you attempting the e2 chip stage anyway?

[tidal sedge]

Cutter e2

She literally only needs guard chips and i can e2 her

[eager gate]

Does kristen transform debris before her invincibility ends or after?

[tidal sedge]

Did it..

Wtf

💀

[vernal lion]

before

[deft rock]

I can't even let 3 star last

[eager gate]

hg please

[deft rock]

I did but mlynar destroyed near two star

[jovial nest]

kutay.....

Mlynar is for Kristen

use every operator at your disposal for the 3 stars Kristen spawns in Phase 2

stars aren't boss material tanks

the more they get hit the weaker it becomes

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1sny4PO-mw&ab_channel=Dr.HieuKun

[eager gate]

Try borrowing not horse instead

[tidal sedge]

Ok i got down the strat

[near basalt]

Spent 50k lmd and u have spot at e1 lvl 30 r higher and good to block and heal

[eager gate]

There's for example yato s2 solo on yt
You don't have to repeat solo, just bring your own ops to deal with right side and use Yato to deal with Kristen and sometimes help with harder enemies on right

[deft rock]

Ladies and gentlemans

I did

After 2:23 hour

[vernal lion]

it's been 2 weeks tho, where have you been

[eager gate]

been searching all along

[deft badger]

the thing i don't like on H12-4 is the map

[vernal lion]

isn't it like any map?

[deft badger]

no

[vernal lion]

I mean just look at IS3 map

it's good and bad at same time

[deft badger]

h12-1 good place for a camp h12-3 good place for a camp h12-4 just cringe

[eager gate]

I hate that they're trying to make us go back into times of stalling bosses
After they themselves introduced ridiculous damage creep into the game

[vernal lion]

dude, I tried h12-4 for like 10 hours, with my ordinary squad,
and finally beat it

but

when I was trying this bullshit after that, I have just beaten it in 2 trials

[deft badger]

amm ok that is a option xD

[vernal lion]

I mean wtf, stupid thing goes harder than my favorite squad

[deft rock]

At trip

[vernal lion]

ok

[jovial nest]

It takes forever to finish the recruiting Defenders in SSS

[vernal lion]

just take referred squad, and don't pick any defender from the beginning

[jovial nest]

i mean

i am easily clearing normal mode Raythean while getting as many defenders as i can

its just....the number is so high to get when recruiting Defenders is kind of a weak strat in the mode

[vernal lion]

Raythean is like when you have Saria and Ptilo in a team, sp just goes stonk

[jovial nest]

just 6 more

acutally

i think it would've been easier if i just clear first floor

recruit as many defenders

and then quit out

cause that would skip the useless Floor 3 reward

which only provides the equipment upgrade

and the floor 1 map is fast to finish

braindead even

[deft badger]

for my 2nd try that was ok lol

gummy died -.- that was kinder the main problem lol

[cosmic thicket]

just use cardigan

[deft badger]

nah this is going to work i just have to block the 3rd clone with surtr

[cosmic thicket]

literally the better low rarity defender

[deft badger]

let p2 start surtr and yato in to it

50% down use mlynar

thats it

[blissful condor]

Help

[cosmic thicket]

send squad

[cosmic thicket]

first of all use kaltsit s2

second i assume your biggest issue is with the defender guys o right side, bring a slower + AA sniper (actually frost can also work) to make them lose their def stacks really quickly

[jovial nest]

My god an E2 capped NTRK

That amt of resources couldve raised another e2 60 ops from lvl 1

[versed arrow]

with all those e1 max

[jovial nest]

If they chose to stick NTRK only to lvl 60

[cosmic thicket]

has to be t5 mats issue :Clueless:

but yeah basically work with the gravity on right hand side and you'll be fine

on left just make sure u have enough block count + have someone doing arts dmg to the rockets

wait yato alter should also be on s2 im 90% sure that's the s1 icon

yeah that's s1

[glass monolith]

🐀

[vernal lion]

rat is too broken

[blissful condor]

?

[vernal lion]

fr

[cosmic thicket]

basically the higher level your op is the more it costs to level them up

so the last 30 levels cost much more than the first 60

[jovial nest]

If you kept NTRK at e2 60, you would've had close to enough resources to have raised someone from E0 lvl 1 to E2 60
thats how much E2 60 -> e2 90 burns resources

[glass monolith]

I find out today DR applies before checking if Lin shield blocks it #strategy message

[blissful condor]

Idk how to build a team

[jovial nest]

one tip then

whenever you e2 promote someone

stick them to lvl 40

and then e2 another

[cosmic thicket]

wadafaq

wow this account needs help

[blissful condor]

I casual player

[vernal lion]

you should join Arknights Discord earlier

[cosmic thicket]

me too

[blissful condor]

My brain dumb

[cosmic thicket]

not just the lmd exp issue but like

[glass monolith]

I hate how this game give you units to build faster than you build them

[cosmic thicket]

your base is also probably producing next to nothing

[blissful condor]

I just log in do the weekly thing to get the stuff to pull do dailys do events and log off

[latent anvil]

You need grind chips

[blissful condor]

I don't lol

Arknights is my game to chill and not try as much but oof

[cosmic thicket]

i find this really funny

[blissful condor]

I work 12 hour shifts 6 times a day so can't play much

[cosmic thicket]

12 hours 6 times a day

[blissful condor]

I mean

6 days a week

[cyan gorge]

[blissful condor]

Rich but tired to the bone

Planing on buying a 30k car soon

Anyways this game man why so hard sometimes

[cinder pike]

welp, I do suggest at least building your base up to a 252 and leveling the operators in /baseskills to at least e1 1

[cosmic thicket]

this event has a mechanic that can either really help or really harm you depending on how you use/not use it

[blissful condor]

The up and down thing?

I don't get it

[cosmic thicket]

there's this thing called gravity and when your ops are facing WITH gravity, they attack faster, facing AGAINST they attacak slower

enemies walking WITH gravity move faster, AGAINST gravity move slower

you can see the direction gravity is pointing in by looking at the dial on the left (it should say U or D)

gravity can be changed with the buttons: you (or enemies) can press a button if your op has at least 1 block count (or has 3+ weight) respectively

[blissful condor]

Gravity is a meanie

My problem with the 5th level is those drill things

They have to much hp

And atk

[cosmic thicket]

those take up 3 block count and have a lot of ATK and DEF but no res

they also do damage to ops that it passes by based on its movement speed so you want the rockets to move against gravity as much as possible

conveniently, the path they take is up, and gravity is initially set to down

so just plug left lane with defenders and a medic (kal and mudrock should do fine) and have some other units to catch the dogs

[blissful condor]

Help me build a team for this level

[cosmic thicket]

you're also gonna want a source of arts damage: i see you already have amiya and surtr in your squad which is great, you'll definitely want amiya facing down so she can get an aspd boost

[blissful condor]

Mudrock

[cosmic thicket]

surtr s2 can give her a 1 tile extension which can be interesting to poke enemies through mudrock/monst3r but you can also just place her facing left/right to hit both lanes in front of the 3 blocks

[vernal lion]

BRUHHHHHHHH

GG tank 1 hit from this dude

[blissful condor]

Imma play it guild me thru it please 🙏

[cosmic thicket]

just make sure u have a slower and frost attacking right side defenders

the defenders initially have a lot of DEF and RES but lose DEF and RES every time they get hit, so a great way to handle them is a slower and a fast-attacking unit

seems like suzuran and frost can do the job

[jovial nest]

finally....
this set of SSS is done for me and I'll only revisit it for the monthly hard mode Raythean

[blissful condor]

Slower?

Suzuran is only level 50

So do I won't the place to be up or down?

[cosmic thicket]

yeah we just need her for auto attacks

basically you want to place as many people facing down as possible

[tidal sedge]

Stop maxing your levels if you arent going to e2 immidiately

[cosmic thicket]

because here the goal is to make sure gravity is always down

[blissful condor]

The higher the level means more dmg

[blissful condor]

Oh

Ok

[cosmic thicket]

not by much

to increase damage you're better off levelling skill levels or unlocking new skills that do more damage

bc op levels give like what

+2 atk

+3 def

+10 hp

[tidal sedge]

The dmg you would get from e2 one of surtr, kal, or yat2 alone, would be multiple times the dmg you get from getting them from lv50 to lv80.

[cosmic thicket]

also masteries good

[blissful condor]

[jovial nest]

it really depends on the class. And if you don't even have a team of all E2s, don't bother capping anyone

[cosmic thicket]

suzuran should be on right side

[blissful condor]

Oh

[cosmic thicket]

also kal is a very not good medic for healing

chen, NTRK are likely doing nothing here so bring a second vanguard

[blissful condor]

I KILLED THE FIRST ONE

[tidal sedge]

Just use mudrock instead of blitz but keep kal

[cosmic thicket]

yeah

[jovial nest]

don't forget btw that a single operator can only do so much so overleveling one while ignoring the others will not be helpful

it'll be better to make everyone equally leveled

[tidal sedge]

[cosmic thicket]

yeah roughly equal is good

[blissful condor]

I killed 4 already

[cosmic thicket]

maybe it helps to put more levels on stuff like dps units but like yeah

[tidal sedge]

Just get them to e1 lv40-50
Then e2 them 1 by 1

[blissful condor]

I don't know how arknights works 100%

So

Yuh

[jovial nest]

thats why keep asking

who the hell told you to max level NTRK anyway?

[blissful condor]

Damn one got thru

[jovial nest]

ok here's something I'd like to show you

[cinder pike]

it fine, lol stop malding JuSan

[blissful condor]

Uhhhhh cus she hot

[jovial nest]

Archetto E0 lvl 1 -> lvl 50

Exusiai E2 lvl 70 -> lvl 90

look how much cash is used for Exu and how small the stat growth it

compared to Archetto's

[cinder pike]

All you need to know is that the grind from E2 40 to E2 90 is basically E2 another 6*

[vernal lion]

MY EYES

[jovial nest]

more like grind of E2 60 -> 90 = E0 lvl 1 -> E2 60 (ignoring LMD used in promotions)

[cinder pike]

but seriously, for your other units just keep them at E2 60

[blissful condor]

I beat it but not 3 stared

[cinder pike]

E2 90 is for waifu/hasu, or flex r easons

[jovial nest]

they're a bit newer so e2 40's fine

[jovial nest]

aaaaand does this reflect on their squad?

[blissful condor]

Yall talking about me?

[jovial nest]

#salt-mines

[vernal lion]

that's free

[blissful condor]

Lol

[jovial nest]

it's making me salty

and it's still off topic

[blissful condor]

Literally the reason why I wanted to beat level 5

To get her

[jovial nest]

E0 lvl 1 -> E2 lvl 60

E2 lvl 60 -> E2 lvl 90

the only reason the LMD costs are higher by a mile in the first pic are promotions

[vernal lion]

🐳

[jovial nest]

but comparing the EXP used

it's a bit closer

[vernal lion]

I did whale for many lv90 op

[jovial nest]

thats why

[blissful condor]

Who's the whale

[jovial nest]

whenever you go E2 60 -> 90, consider if you have someone else you want to E2 first

or unless you're sure that operator will get a LOT of use

for example

I think I'll E2 90 Typhon, Eyjaberry, and Hoederer

while everyone else will only get E2 40 at best

[blissful condor]

I beat it

[cosmic thicket]

congrats

[cinder pike]

just build base, your missing out of allot of lmd

[blissful condor]

U are !

[vernal lion]

but I'm f2p

[blissful condor]

F2p btw

[vernal lion]

it's the power of time, and grinding

[cinder pike]

Monthly card user btw (also allot of saving)

[glass monolith]

I'm F2P with 22 months of playing this shit game, you would need insane amount of money to beat sheer amount of wasted time

[still ingot]

why the censorship? I am very confused

[jovial nest]

e2 90s are not whale status unless you admit to farming CE-5/6 using Primes

or worse

farming LS-5/6 using Primes

[vernal lion]

if it's even +1 atk, I still whale for it

[blissful condor]

Lol

[jovial nest]

1 ATK on a Bard is not gonna feel great

[blissful condor]

I just level up characters I like

[jovial nest]

don't do that just yet cause 60 -> 90 is a luxury you have yet

[blissful condor]

That's basically my squad

[jovial nest]

you're getting shat on because of this

[glass monolith]

As long as it is not buying furniture using primes

[blissful condor]

And I don't care lol

People can get mad at me

For leveling up characters

[jovial nest]

dude if you don't care, why are you seeking help?

[blissful condor]

That's just how I play

[weak gazelle]

ok that quite fun map to play
all that left is wait for s maps

[near basalt]

Which ops is good to focus and e2

[vernal lion]

because to prevent someone being asshole and calling me flexing

[blissful condor]

I just need to be told what type of characters I need to use not the level they are on

[jovial nest]

hmmmm, Pinecone's a solid insane DPS overall for lanes

like a mini-Chalter

[still ingot]

oh, do you have all the skins?

[jovial nest]

and May's a good secondary marksmen

[blissful condor]

Is this what I'm getting rn for having high level characters

[vernal lion]

I'm skin enjoyer btw

[still ingot]

godspeed

[jovial nest]

heh you are now in the range of being outflexed by others cause you have an e2 cap
/jk

[blissful condor]

Im not here to flex tho

[cosmic thicket]

the slight problem with this is, an op's role greatly changes based on what promotion level they're at
surtr before E2 is relegated to just being "consistent arts dps" but E2 and above she unlocks her main skill which turns her into helidrop that does huge multitarget arts damage
the problem is less so that you e2 90'd NTRK or e1 maxed a shitton of characters, it's more so you're not using your ops to do the things they do best by recklessly spending LMD and EXP

[jovial nest]

well, you're not getting any favors either for ignoring our leveling advises

you do you

as long as you can win

[cosmic thicket]

they needed help on CW-5 so i'm not sure about that one chief

[cinder pike]

Anyways, how is pallas nowdays?

and worth leveling?

[jovial nest]

unless you want her for base and IS

no

[cinder pike]

humm, she does have a decent base skill so might level

[blissful condor]

[cinder pike]

[blissful condor]

Why people mean to me

[vernal lion]

I would rate her an B, since talents are pretty much just a support

skills are fine to use

[jovial nest]

it's kind of hilarious that CW-5 is your wall

because NTRK's S3 does nothing to rockets

[peak cloak]

mention about IS, hey ,i've played this game for almost 2 years but ,it's the first time i touch the IS. do we have any strats, for like picking ops, mobs. i've tried few rounds before but i always stop at floor 3 (if i wrote it right)

[jovial nest]

just play it yourself

[vernal lion]

depend on IS too

[jovial nest]

its fun to learn on your own

[cinder pike]

well, personally for me I like to pick up 1 core operator for the start and build out based on the recuitments I get

[peak cloak]

IS 2

[vernal lion]

IS3 is currently the hardest

[jovial nest]

if you've already gotten to floor 3 you know your basics

[peak cloak]

it just so confusing and that's why i have to put some messages here, problems?

[vernal lion]

IS2 is basically for beginner

[peak cloak]

just want to ask for helps my man

[jovial nest]

stop at floor 3. you mean get killed in floor 3?

[cinder pike]

Are you asking for operator suggestions for IS?

[latent anvil]

thinking playing and losing is the best way to learn really

[jovial nest]

cause stopping at floor 3 means you got to floor 3 and didn't bother continuing

[cosmic thicket]

no one's being mean - rather we're saying that "the way you're choosing to level up your ops is clearly not working, this is a better way"
whether you take that personally or not is not on us

[cinder pike]

do you need clarification on IS mechanics?

[peak cloak]

and more than that

[jovial nest]

ok we need specific questions

[cinder pike]

so is it the issue of managing hope?

[jovial nest]

what part of IS you need help on?

[vernal lion]

^

[blissful condor]

I'm being lectured

Lol

[vernal lion]

because if you're not better than other ppl, you will

irl too

[blissful condor]

Unfortunately

[jovial nest]

ok want a solid tip? Have you thought of borrowing another E2 operator?

[blissful condor]

I did say I don't try hard in this game

This is just a game so I can goof around

[cosmic thicket]

i mean same here

[blissful condor]

If I miss dailys I don't mind

OHH

That mudrock figure

[jovial nest]

ummm no

[blissful condor]

That's coming out next year

I need