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jovial nest
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Kristen and Mama's "Rebel Girl" i kinda like

near folio
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And Roberta seems good at cheesing those mechanics

neat skiff
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Defenders are worth building past E1 max now.

jovial nest
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they make you need to do some chores to make shit easier for you

neat skiff
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The game is over 4 years old. They're going to have some fun with mechanics.

cosmic thicket
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really? mudrock splitbox on mire tile still goes hard af

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neat skiff
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Hence chapter 3 to 9 is a very rude awakening while 3 to 4 is much smoother.

jovial nest
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the red ones

near folio
jovial nest
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i agree there

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she can counter her weakness

near folio
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I still havent seen any bosses that can top mandra's raw power

cosmic thicket
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dazmati?

near folio
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Havent tried chapter 12 yet

neat skiff
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You’re told directly that shifting them makes them take a boat load of damage.

cosmic thicket
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dazmati is uhh
a boss of all time

near folio
neat skiff
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Ok, what about everyone else?

jovial nest
near folio
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I like using bruteforce strats even in challenge runs

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Gives me a real time malding

jovial nest
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thats why i just let balls do the work

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against lightsabers

near folio
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But its satisfying when I finally pull it off

neat skiff
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Don’t want to use specialists? Defenders and guards can shift as well.

near folio
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Because it really feels like the struggle to beat the stage

jovial nest
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imagine if these 2 tagteamed

near folio
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To get a nice clear

jovial nest
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a Poison Haze map with those DP-draining machines

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and ballistas

cosmic thicket
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someone made this meme about dazmati's abilities and it's amazing

neat skiff
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The "meme" is just the enemy description?

cosmic thicket
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yes

near folio
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Its to address how long the bosses' bucket list of abilities have become these days

neat skiff
crisp bolt
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still doesn't beat the base one BlitzSmile

neat skiff
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How incredibly uncreative...

near folio
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I feel bosses like Manfred and Emperor's Blade hit the sweet spot for the perfect boss design though

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They are challenging for the right reasons

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Especially if you dont nuke them

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And take time to let them cook

neat skiff
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So you're mad because Manfred and Emperors blade don't talk about the specifics of their abilities?

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Because there is a bunch of stuff in both bosses where not mentioned mechanics are exploited.

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While Dzamati is actually fully laid out with zero ambiguity.

cosmic thicket
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who's mad lmao

near folio
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What's not explained for Emperor's Blade?

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For Manfred I can understand they left out the cannon

neat skiff
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His fart mechanic.

cosmic thicket
jovial nest
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i guess for EB, they didn't mention the cap of how many fogs can be in the map in total?

neat skiff
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Like how you get 3 farts on 1 op.

cyan gorge
near folio
neat skiff
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Or you don't get any farts on a map.

near folio
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EB wasnt intended to be fought with stuff like heavyrain etc

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At least that was what the devs had in their thought process

neat skiff
near folio
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No I didnt mean text wise

neat skiff
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The "meme" is about the text.

near folio
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I just meant that EB and Manfred felt like perfectly balanced bosses for the state of the game

neat skiff
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Once you know how Dzamati works it's just a block count simulator.

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The entire thing the chapter has been drilling into you.

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But one gets a lazy as fuck "meme" but the rest get a pass.

eager turtle
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on CW-10, if the switch is up, and i put then facing upwards, i don't get atk spd?

neat skiff
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Gravity needs to be up.

cosmic thicket
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make sure someone isn't already holding down

neat skiff
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^

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the switch being up and gravity being up are 2 different things.

near folio
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Meanwhile for Damatzi Cluster I think people are just mad that it gets so many abilities

neat skiff
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They don't though. Especially with exploiters.

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They have 3 things. an auto attack with corrosive. A cast, and a health gated invuln.

near folio
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Exploiters are always gonna find ways to break bosses but the general playerbase reception to Damatzi probably isnt nice

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I havent played chap 12 yet so im not sure of the full picture

neat skiff
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Yeah, global gonna global.

cosmic thicket
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idk i thought dazmati was actually fine

neat skiff
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They're very much fine.

cosmic thicket
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H stages actually feeling like H stages is welcome

near folio
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And when people feel negative about something they are gonna post degratory stuff about it

neat skiff
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CN thought they were fine.

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Meanwhile CN is actually stressing about CH 13.

deft badger
neat skiff
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Trying to find exploits.

near folio
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Cant imagine what lies in chap 13 when you need someone as op as Hoederer as the new operator

neat skiff
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Hoederer isn't even the best. That is Puzzle S2.

cosmic thicket
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ch13 doesn't look too bad it's just making sure you kill the things away from the altar range when possible

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and time the bombs well

near folio
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But aside from Mandragora, season 3 of Arknights has produced pretty good bosses so far

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H9-6 is the only stage that felt unfair

neat skiff
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Mandra isn't even the worst tbh.

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H9-6 was worse without the ops released afterwards.

near folio
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The issue with Mandra in H9-6 is that she has no weaknesses, its one of the only stages where the only option is to bruteforce it

neat skiff
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H9-6 with Typhon S2 is a joke.

near folio
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Sure mandra is easy if you bruteforce her with meta ops

neat skiff
near folio
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But if you dont do that H9-6 is a nightmare

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neat skiff
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Because some of the most popular strats are "have her drop a pillar on herself".

cosmic thicket
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i mean there are no standout weaknesses but there is a killgate

neat skiff
cosmic thicket
near folio
near folio
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And a generally balanced team

cosmic thicket
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no restrictions on the rest?

neat skiff
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Setting up in the middle requires many meta 6 stars.

cosmic thicket
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and define old

neat skiff
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Like, it is legit one of the hardest but most braindead strats.

near folio
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But that is two blocks gone that mandra could smash on herself

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jovial nest
neat skiff
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E2L90 Ifrit can't handle much. CH9 is RES heavy.

jovial nest
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or Silvergun has <10 ops 4* cleared it too

cosmic thicket
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ifrit does have her debuff though

neat skiff
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On S3.

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cosmic thicket
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and her talent

neat skiff
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Yes, hello. I did the strat. I know exactly how much she handles.

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jovial nest
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no ethan there

neat skiff
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I gave up and added in 6 more E2L70+ ops to help her get past enemy 30.

jovial nest
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it was the usual Silvergun special

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the usual Cutter and usual Pinecone

cosmic thicket
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ethan is ridiculous?

near folio
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I guess using Ethan is smart

neat skiff
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S2M3 = 84% bind chance with tier 3 module.

near folio
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But having to build Ethan just to clear some stages

cosmic thicket
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unless you're going for like 20 binds in a row you're just using him to make sure the enemies don't move very much

neat skiff
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I'm still waiting for Ethans skin to come back to CC shop.

jovial nest
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ah yes... S2M3 Mod lvl 3 Ethan...

near folio
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Most of my all rounders are 6 stars which I banned myself from using

neat skiff
near folio
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And most of my 5 and 4 stars only fill one or two roles each

weak gazelle
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hmm
it took 10 slot for normal one
seem hard for cm with 10 slot (and more step to do)HellaHands

near folio
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I still havent built cutter yet

vernal lion
near folio
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I only built 6 star strikers

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For 5 stars only lappland is built

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But I should build more offensive powerhouses like Cutter

neat skiff
cosmic thicket
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evidently she's not there to silence kristen phase 2

near folio
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It just takes a bit more malding not having many solo laneholders when it comes to challenge runs

weak gazelle
near folio
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Trying to squeeze out all the tile value I can get from my dps

cosmic thicket
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oh wait when are u killing phase 1

near folio
weak gazelle
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kill kristen last
clean small fry first (both phase)

near folio
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I remember at one point two rockets will stack together

cosmic thicket
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if that's so then just stall until 2 right balls are gone, then use tequila reflect for one and april for the other

weak gazelle
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with help of slow from greyyter and leizi

near folio
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Oh I see

cosmic thicket
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then kill kristen + balls at the same time

near folio
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How do you handle the wave of lightsabers on the left then?

weak gazelle
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greyyter+nearl+teq

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cosmic thicket
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he's rotated there i assume

near folio
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I guess teq can handle it on normal

weak gazelle
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i juggle them all the time

near folio
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For CM the biggest concern is that stat inflation

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Even my Saria with a healer dies to two saber guys

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Saria S1M3 with module

weak gazelle
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ohh 2 ball can gone?

near folio
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Stall her long enough and this happens

cosmic thicket
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if you stall long enough the right 2 balls disappear

weak gazelle
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how long?

near folio
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10 mins?

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Maybe

weak gazelle
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need kristen reach p2?

cosmic thicket
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they are also added to the enemy counter so you get 61/59 enemies

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cosmic thicket
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999 seconds according to arknights map

weak gazelle
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ohh that became way easier then

near folio
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Thats close to 17 mins

cosmic thicket
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at 1x speed yeah

near folio
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Oh right there is 2x

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Well no big deal

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Ive stalled Steam Knight for 22 mins in real time before

cosmic thicket
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yeah u have a stable stall setup already

weak gazelle
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the problem is the balls
thats it

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cosmic thicket
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wait

near folio
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Especially when it comes to the lightsabers

cosmic thicket
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yeah i think you just need someone to perma try killing a ball

weak gazelle
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if 2 gone then everything easy
idc about lightsaber they are weak

cosmic thicket
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bc 4 balls gives kristen block 5

deft badger
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dude i am going madddd with this map xD

cosmic thicket
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does croissant have block 4 mod or +20% def

weak gazelle
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yes she block 4

tidal sedge
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4 block

cosmic thicket
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ic

weak gazelle
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a lot of way to kill lightsaber

near folio
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Hmm just make sure your tequila doesnt die himself

weak gazelle
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i can just perma shift them for example

near folio
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I have both warf and saria try to heal teq but he still dies in first lightsaber rush

weak gazelle
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feater+greyyter would happily toying them

near folio
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I guess

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That reminds me I need to raise my Enforcer

cosmic thicket
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how dumb is it to use liskarm batteried by the crossroads to feed feater or enforcer SP

cosmic thicket
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the biggest issue is keeping her alive since she's taking 225 arts damage every 0.6 seconds

weak gazelle
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enforcer need sp batteries
17 sp are not friendly

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while feater not needed (15 sp)

near folio
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Do you have to use the equipment to make the strat work?

cosmic thicket
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oh does the 2 sp actually make that big of a difference

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i see

near folio
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Or is push force 3 enough?

cosmic thicket
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you're not pushing the balls though are you

weak gazelle
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it is
feater s2 range are huge

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while enforcer so tiny

near folio
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Enforcer has stun though

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Its easy to trigger his double stuns since the lightsabers come together with the shield guys

weak gazelle
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enforcer deal no dmg with skill

near folio
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I dont think feater damage matters that much

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You the lightsabers take damage from getting pushed

cosmic thicket
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yeah idk if the issue is damage

near folio
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Feater damage def doesnt matter when it takes a full charge tequila around 10 slashes to kill one guy

weak gazelle
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yeah dmg was not the matter
it just range that matter

deft badger
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f- u game xD

weak gazelle
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i dont push ball

near folio
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The ball does nothing in the stage anyways

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If you play correctly they are just roadblocks

weak gazelle
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well i guess will try nightmare+feater
been a long time since i use her

glass monolith
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Let Karen lock top left ball and play with down gravity or bottom left and play with UP gravity ChenShrug

jovial nest
near folio
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Honestly for me I just want to make a Rhine lab family vs Kristen

glass monolith
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Warf Shamare Stainless not Rhine HellaKek

deft badger
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and big dudes taking 0 dmg cc everything in their way

jovial nest
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just use Penance on the boss's lane

deft badger
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but they got ccd now by qb and spalter

near folio
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I know this team can do it

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I gotten close once

glass monolith
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"CM" - 3 tanks and Tequila.
Fuck this shit i'm out RedOmegaLul

deft badger
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3 hours of my life to kill 3 crushers

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vernal lion
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I will make Lee kill Kristen with ball in EX-8

near folio
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And 60 dp tequila

glass monolith
deft badger
near folio
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Ok but Teq starts off at 30 dp to handle the first lightsaber rush

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So its fine

glass monolith
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You know shit we have at start of december

deft badger
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still no idea what u are talking about 😄

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wasn't in the game last dec

glass monolith
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This december LappDumb

near folio
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POO

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Looks like I have to play with my meta ops again

deft badger
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ah i thought every dec there is something nvm i took heavy brain dmg

glass monolith
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I will link you video in #arknights to keep this chat clear

vernal lion
near folio
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I feel EB was the first time they truly solved a boss getting trivialised by meta ops

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Then it never happened again

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Because all our meta ops now are crazy

glass monolith
near folio
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Really crazy that it just takes Pozemka one skill to kill bosses like phase 2 mandra

deft badger
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@glass monolith isn't that the CC replacement thing? the video u send right now

neat skiff
deft badger
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pinch out or whats it even called

glass monolith
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POO - Pinch Out Operation

near folio
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Its not satisfying if I end the match in an instant

neat skiff
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Gurl, the stat creep is real.

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Good fucking luck.

deft badger
near folio
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And ive been keeping up

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I have Mlynar, NTR, Surtr etc

glass monolith
near folio
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Only meta op im missing is kal tsit

vernal lion
near folio
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And chalter

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But nowadays even chalter damage is getting laughed on

glass monolith
deft badger
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ahh yes and this xD oo i am happy about Dec

vernal lion
deft badger
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hahahaha

vernal lion
near folio
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At least I was smart enough to P6 Gladiia during UT

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I took a break from the game right when SN started so I have Pot 1 Lumen LappDumb

vernal lion
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the difference between pot 1 lumen and pot 0 lumen

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vernal lion
near folio
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Welfareknights looking real interesting with the new Lessing Operator

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We finally getting a good dps duelist

vernal lion
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we have a free anti-cc-effect op

deft badger
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well i started playing in the last week of SN it was more do i take all the mats or do i take all pots of lumen
then they did drop gladiia after that and yes it was again the same struggle take mats focus on farming other stuff skip that one pot but i did push in those 4 weeks 5 ops to e2 so i don't care
nearly even skiped SN because i spend 2 weeks rolling accounts lol (started with spalter, gnosis, thorns selector pack, surtr, weedy, saga, exu)

near folio
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Taking 600 arts damage is nothing if you become immune to freeze for such a long time

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Against newer bosses is questionable but can still use as dps helidrop with S2 moduled

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Just a shame he doesnt have fast redeploy passive

vernal lion
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the clear that took 100 luck to clear

glass monolith
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Why did you even break it

vernal lion
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they died to 1 hit

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unlike Yumen roadblock

eager gate
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Yumen roadblocks live for 10 years then 1 stealthy boy fucking 2taps them

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and keeps walkin

lusty snow
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Hey ho. Getting a little stumped on EX-7 CM, wondering if y'all had some tips for the stage.

eager gate
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I already forgot what 7 looks like

lusty snow
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Base stage was fairly easily dropkicked at the choke, but the CM says "no, stop that"

eager gate
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Oh

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I just put Eyja and Pramanix here, Gladia s3 right under them to deal with fat boys when they come

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the rest isn't scary at all

lusty snow
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okay let's assume I don't have either Gladiia or Pramanix raised

the idea is slapping a lot of hits there to lower def, or are you actually killing them there?

peak cloak
crisp bolt
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Use the rat

crisp bolt
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Aak the rat

eager gate
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They all actually die right there, in CM just for safety I added Surt
Pink is Surt, Blue is Gladia, White is Skadi, red is Eyja, green is Pram

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like 1 or 2 will survive with some hp(or not) depending on Eyja

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and Pram

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I probably have to note that I ran 2 flags to set this up before they appear

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Gladia mod plays a very important role cause it's amazing at reducing res stacks

glass monolith
waxen swan
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That u ?

eager gate
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I mean
it's not really suffering if I clear it all in 1 look at the map and 1 actual attempt

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I'll have to go back to this map later for niche clear probably, tho

glass monolith
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Top left is La Pluma check on CM RedOmegaLul

eager gate
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Does she manage to kill jet bois before they fly away?

glass monolith
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You guys don't press UP? Bnuuy

eager gate
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I don't remember ngl

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probably didn't since I member that I picked em off with sniper

deft badger
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now this...

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-.-

glass monolith
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Imagine Sora Module will make her regain 100% SP on skill end

cyan gorge
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Infinite sleep SoraWow

tidal sedge
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Hm. Hall of Stasis 100% allows Phantom s3 to push balls

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That'll be nice

inland fern
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i hate 2-3

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no matter how i try they always push through

versed spire
merry narwhal
glass monolith
# inland fern i hate 2-3

You can use suzu at bottom left to kill shield boys, other enemies have less physical DEF, use medics where needed

little ravine
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does the signal blocker equipment +30% dmg stack with suzuran talent ?

merry narwhal
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are your units all level 1? Noir Corne at e0-30 and full trust was enough for me

versed spire
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ReedBean you don't have single e1?

inland fern
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besides tsuki and beehunter
they are fillers

merry narwhal
glass monolith
# inland fern what's that

Promotion level, first one is relatively cheap and can be done without additional grinding for 3* rarity operators

versed spire
merry narwhal
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also your defender died before you ever deployed a medic

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open with 3 road blocks + Kroos into Cuora into medic into 12F/Lava

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then you can deploy more dps

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your roadblock setup is good

glass monolith
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Alot of early stages has gimmick of having issues with different solution being on different lanes allowing to efficiently kill them with right placement

deft badger
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wow NG can't heal the gas lol

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even with 40% dmg reduction she dies to it

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+100 atk speed

inland fern
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all hail melantha
best operator in the game just look at that 408 atk

glass monolith
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If it works it is valid solution to whatever you did

inland fern
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i brought a support operator and placed units with highest atk

glass monolith
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Vanguard texas

versed spire
deft badger
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now i don't need a heal

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xDD

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nah she heals now did have to give her a bit more atk

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lol

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but she died again at the end

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will do the boss later when i figure out how to heal this... -.-

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i gave her 30% dmg res 40 atk speed 40 dmg and she still dies at the end

glass monolith
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Are you sure fog is arts?

deft badger
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seems like it

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she takes less when i use her ulty

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i am at the boss but i don't know what to do if she dies xD

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but i don't remember that it was hard to heal

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if i kill them fast she could make it

versed spire
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Ng does fine even with just 4x atk speedReedBean

deft badger
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on hard?

versed spire
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Yes ReedBean

deft badger
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well she died

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e2l70 m3 mod3

versed spire
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Weird

deft badger
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i don't care actually i can kill adds fast and remove all the ops let the boss leak

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and i have the medal xD

versed spire
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You are using abbysals buff?...

deft badger
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does it look like i don't 😄

versed spire
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No wonder ng diesReedBean

deft badger
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what do u mean?

versed spire
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You should just simply use 3rd device

deft badger
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if it works only with 3rd device then i am going to call the mode a fail xD

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offer 3 devices but its just doable with the 3rd one lol

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since ur team is going to die to gas

versed spire
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I haven't tried coz I don't care i finished sss yesterday never gonna touch it again ReedBean

turbid badge
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3rd device is just to easy

versed spire
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I just said easy way if you just want medal

deft badger
turbid badge
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yea … eirher that or just kill boss faster/bring more medics

deft badger
versed spire
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Because if you only bring nightingale without 3rd device she can't do shit

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Bring saria at least

deft badger
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should actually try without the dmg reduction

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give her just atk speed and dmg

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i don't know why she even drops that hard, AH don't lose hp at all she does they did have 50% dmg reduction she 30%

versed spire
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It's poison

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Its true dmg

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If you think it's artsSkadiDaijoubu

turbid badge
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kinda scatt try

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wow without usibf the ball

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scary

versed spire
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Balls op

glass monolith
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If you love balls you will love IC rerun

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But before that: AAAHAHAHAHAHA

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And killing boss with roomba

wintry hinge
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is that a good strat to anni 19
i will additionally use
texalter
nearlter
yalter
texas
myrthle

soft crystal
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The sss toewers are mreant to be played with the third device.

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Their unique ones .

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The gimmicks play with it well making it a lot easier

tidal sedge
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Which is probably why the missions for the other 2 devices give more rewards

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Somewhat more awkward, so more reward for using them

soft crystal
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10 stacking Chonyue and mlynar is fun

versed spire
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Well he thinks if not all devices work for maps it's failed modeBlitzSmile

tropic valve
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yeah 10 stacking is really fun

soft crystal
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Ah device is poorly designed if you ask me

tropic valve
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the cc device is ok, not that huge

tidal sedge
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AH device annoys me ye

tropic valve
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AH is once again the weakest

tidal sedge
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I don't care for fish comp

soft crystal
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I do have all AH available

tropic valve
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AH is slightly better in Mama John

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since you can mix melee and ranged

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so your Andreana gets more value

soft crystal
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My andreana not built

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😔

tropic valve
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blasphemous

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My andreana is not built

tidal sedge
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It's also kinda dumb that folks who don't happen to have one AH op can't do one of the missions

soft crystal
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How many do you need?

tropic valve
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you can borrow

soft crystal
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2 at least?

tidal sedge
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2 at least, and you can only borrow 1 op

soft crystal
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Can borrow 1 and use unbuilt skadi thats been covered in dust ezpz

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Isnt also

tidal sedge
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Skadi is in Kernel now, so fat chance of that for newer folks

soft crystal
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Gladia really cklose to becoming

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Available anytime now?

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Record restoration for UT soon

tidal sedge
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Yeah it'll be fixed then, but not now

cyan gorge
turbid badge
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cant u just borrw

soft crystal
tropic valve
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I run SpecA

soft crystal
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U failed me

tropic valve
soft crystal
tropic valve
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maybe I need to cope specB

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just to experience 10 stack Schwarz

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would be a little overkill lmao

soft crystal
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Put in def A so she can even tank KEK

tropic valve
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TRUE

tidal sedge
soft crystal
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Honestly Raythean sss tower was so bland and boring

glass monolith
soft crystal
tidal sedge
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The 2 AH mission was around last season LappDumb

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If Gladiia were free at the time I wouldn't find it so dumb.

versed spire
#

Why was it dumb you could always borrow gladiiaRosThink

tidal sedge
#

You need 2 AH ops, you can only borrow 1 op. So you need to own at least 1 other AH op. Gladiia had yet to be in record restore last month. What is so hard to understand about this

versed spire
#

I mean specter and andreana 5 starsReedBean

glass monolith
#

Took me just 1.5 years to get Specter HellaKek

versed spire
#

Skill issue

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That's why it's just mission not medal or anything ReedBean

cyan gorge
#

Just do the mission when Gladiia comes back

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they aren't going anywhere yet

deft badger
#

next brain dmg

glass monolith
#

Bruh i hate how balls go in direction your idiots face. And Beanstalk summon is hardcoded to look left

deft badger
#

and btw she was last year in Nov 🙂

versed spire
#

Specter is 5 star what spark

glass monolith
#

normal specter RedOmegaLul

deft badger
#

i thought spalter

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why would u need specter

glass monolith
#

Why the f not

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AH, guard, BS s2

deft badger
#

with all ur 6 stars xD

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u want a 5 star specter

glass monolith
#

Hey, just because i CAN rarity abuse, doesn't mean i want to RedOmegaLul

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I did so much rarity abuse on Chapter 12 i want to minimize usage of 6* to counter balance

tidal sedge
#

speaking about rarity aboos...

you are seeing one player who are doing so from the moment he got a bunch of 6 stars until today(me)

waxen swan
#

Flex ?

tidal sedge
#

Perhaps

#

but I love full 6 star only run, with no niche, and use no special strats

glass monolith
#

Goal: Win and/or have fun
Means: Literally anything. As long as it is not Windflit LappDumb

cyan gorge
#

Before I knew it, I became a 6* abuser the moment Skalter got on my account ReedBean

tidal sedge
#

SSS Strat for Ptilopsis/TeaAppleSauce's waifu

3 sniper/2 caster
3 caster/2 sniper
full caster
full sniper

which will you choose?

eager gate
#

Why medic in sss

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only damage just damage JUST DAMAGE

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all the heal you need is called Gladia

cyan gorge
#

Suzu my healer RosChill

little ravine
#

does eyja talent work if she is in the deck in SSS or does she have to be drawn ?

cyan gorge
#

I assume so, since Bag talent works even when not drawn/already retreated

eager gate
#

her talent says "when deployed"

cyan gorge
#

With mod upgrades, that restriction is lifted

tidal sedge
#

Mod2 changes it to a squad buff

cyan gorge
#

she just needs to be in squad

eager gate
#

I thought mod buffs sp talent

cyan gorge
#

Nah

eager gate
#

well, that's good
I don't gotta mod my Eyja then

high shard
#

I can also borrow 1 operator from support

crystal cargo
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How to kill bosses efficiently

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oops vid isnt loading

#

E

high shard
crystal cargo
#

i was tryna send a video

#

but it seems to not work

high shard
#

Try sending it again

crystal cargo
#

doesnt work

#

uhh

polar crane
#

is the video bigger than 50mb?

crystal cargo
#

yeah

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discord limit ig

polar crane
#

you need nitro for that

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upload it on youtube or smt

tropic valve
turbid badge
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just get pot

crystal cargo
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idk i was bored

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so i decided to wait

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almost 3 minutes

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for myrtle to solo

eager gate
turbid badge
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witout any buffs woaw she tonk

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the mod y expeirnxe

storm current
#

quite easy

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post map for position

turbid badge
#

ines funny utilit shining in the random invis enemies in sss

tidal sedge
#

I ain't doing Niche Knights

Gladiia heals is Abyssal Hunters Exclusive...

So nah

timid schooner
#

aaaaaaaa im getting mad rn

storm current
#

wait until you see SL then

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lmao

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EX8 is harder than CW-S-4 so it shouldnt be that bad

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but SL tho

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lmao

turbid badge
near basalt
#

Which ops is worth lvling

polar crane
#

maybe weedy mizukithumbsup

cyan gorge
# near basalt

Click, Ethan, Mizuki, Weedy
Pram if you really want a debuffer

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Podenco could be good with SN coming back soon

storm current
#

wouldnt jaye better than podenco in that case then

cyan gorge
#

I don't see Jaye in their options

near basalt
#

What about kalfa is it good

foggy grove
#

kafka works untouched

near basalt
#

?

tidal sedge
#

Can help me build a team?

foggy grove
#

you just deploy her to stall with sleep
level and skill level doesn't matter for her

storm current
# tidal sedge Can help me build a team?

typically you want a team set up like
2 vanguard, preferably pioneer like scavenger/fang, or vigna is fine too
2 medic, 1 single target like silence + 1 aoe like perfumer
2 defender, 1 tanky type like beagle/cuora, 1 healing type like spot/gummy
2 marksman, kroos + exu. platinum can replace kroos later on but for now use kroos
1 art, click is good. e1 steward for base
1 aoe, lin or pinecone is fine
the rest are wildcard slots you can use your strong units for like cutter lappland or whatever fit the stage
you should check depot, you should have 2 selectors, one for silence, one for lappland

timid spade
#

Suggestions on how to go from here into phase 2? I'm not confident right side can keep the cars at bay

storm current
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block with a defender

timid spade
#

I intend to put dorothy on the down button and then mon3tr on the up button once phase 2 is triggered so the top ball is preventing enemy passage, then GG will destroy bottom ball to block bottom

timid spade
storm current
#

no then

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but

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cant you just use cuora to tank rocket instead of kristen

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kristen hardly deal any dmg

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you literally can use noir corne to tank her

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or cardigan

timid spade
#

Hm, good point... I was just using her to stall until I killed everything, but I suppose I don't need cuora for that

#

Can prob replace suzu for a 3* defender then

#

Btw, do I deploy mlynar on the right or left for phase 2?

storm current
#

left lane has jedi

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right lane have rocket

#

goldenglow prob cant kill jedi cuz high res

timid spade
next frost
#

Is this team good enough for that stage?

storm current
#

i wouldnt borrow eyja

#

can just go goldenglow instead

next frost
storm current
#

yes

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the balls have taunt

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so goldenglow s3 will prioritize them

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globally

timid spade
#

@storm current Do you know which side of the red box the jedis spawn from? Looking to make a dorothy pathway for them

storm current
#

bottom

timid spade
#

thx, I'll see if dorothy can dmg them enough that mon3tr can handle it

#

Even though they have high res FiaSigh

next frost
#

Gonna switch my defenders for cheap ones + using Mountain for the left side for CM.

timid spade
#

The balls deal arts dmg I'm assuming?

storm current
#

Physical

timid spade
#

Ah, so borrowing nightingale won't do much huh 😅
I'm running into a healing issue because my Silence is only E1L70. Once I kill a ball in phase 2, kal and chongus die, might have to reconsider their position

storm current
#

balls collision is physical

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but pulsing aura and global explosion is art

timid spade
#

That run is bust GoldenglowSad

cyan gorge
# near basalt ?

Kafka's main niche is her sleep on s1 and her talent. Since this job can be fulfilled easily left at e0, upgrading her in generally pointless and the extra dp cost from promotion is a demerit to her role as a fast redeploy

deft badger
timid spade
# deft badger dont skip on mlynar

Suggestions on surviving the balls' explosions, then? I don't have ptilo or warf... If possible, I'd like to not build silence since lumen is coming soon

deft badger
#

just kill the boss faster in p1

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u have kal

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kill it on spawn

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kill her before she spawns the 2nd ball

next frost
#

Can't do it. Not enough damage for weak mobs.

timid spade
deft badger
#

ofc he can do it xD

timid spade
#

I think he's talking bout himself

deft badger
#

the map can be done with 4 ops

sullen rover
#

3
weedy
kal
texalter

deft badger
#

u figure out how u wanna do right side

next frost
#

I already have Mlynar, Kirito, Texalter and am going to build Weedy.

deft badger
#

but chong can take one ball

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it does only 900 dmg

sullen rover
#

just borrow a weedy
also you can just copy eckos guide

#

wayy less of a pain to do than the 3 op clear

timid spade
# deft badger but chong can take one ball

He died this time, but he was already low from taking hits from kristen. I could reposition people so he doesn't tank any of kristen hits and see if that solves it and I can keep mlynar

timid spade
deft badger
#

well don't xD

#

where is the fun in it

sullen rover
#

its 2 6 stars so its alot easier than kyos(1 6 stars)

#

if theres a lvl diff you can just add more dps

south bone
#

Damn i lost in Mama John's stage cuz of DP AmiyaCry

deft badger
#

in that stupid hard mode

south bone
#

well i'm not on emergency yet ExeNaruhodo

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but i'm upset that i gotta replay it again

deft badger
#

ahh u are going to have fun xD

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bring a QB if u have one and enjoy it

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spend like 3 hours with mlynar to see QB eat them first try lol

#

stupid crushers have to much def

cyan gorge
#

The one time I bring Lapp to SSS

deft badger
south bone
#

i can use arts dmg it's simple, but the stage keep giving me others

#

grr

cyan gorge
#

I farmed it for the missions yeah

#

I tried Lapp for crushers but Reedic ended up killing everything as always ReedBean

deft badger
#

should have taken reed prob as well but was to lazy to restart

sullen rover
deft badger
#

but QB did just fine, they didn't even get closer

deft badger
timid spade
#

Do you guys think there's any chance that S2M3 kaltsit can keep left side by herself or nah? (CW-EX-8-CM)

cyan gorge
#

not with s2

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s3 can for sure

timid spade
#

Nah, S3 can't, already tried

cyan gorge
#

s2 can't deal with rockets

timid spade
#

Left side, not right

cyan gorge
#

oh

timid spade
#

Left is jedis

cyan gorge
#

yeah jedis would probably shred if she was holding solo

deft badger
#

u can use mlynar for left and kal for right

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+kal for boss

timid spade
#

Lemme give it a go

cyan gorge
#

You still need a blocker for left

#

Mlynar has downtime

deft badger
#

u have to ulty 3 times with mlynar and a 1 block can hold till he is on cd

#

just ulty when the boss is in range everytime with mlynar u can't do anything wrong

timid spade
deft badger
#

that's when the most adds move as well

cyan gorge
#

If not e2, Shaw eventually dies

timid spade
#

Maybe I just cycle Yato and Gravel then, idk

deft badger
#

are u doing cm?

timid spade
#

Shit, ran out of practice permits RedOmegaLul

#

CM using 3 is just bs lol

cyan gorge
#

too many enemies for 1 block stalling to work

deft badger
#

that's kinder what i did

timid spade
deft badger
#

if u ulty every time when the boss gets in ur range a 1 block is ok

cyan gorge
#

I used Gummy + Reedalter

deft badger
#

there will be just 1 point where u will see a defender and laser sword dude at the same time walking up its up to u how u deal with that for the rest mlynar is of cd

crisp bolt
#

I just unga bunga'd it

#

blocking with rat BlitzSmile

timid spade
# cyan gorge I used Gummy + Reedalter

Yeah, the main weankess of my account rn is a lack of healers tbh. I have none really worth building up to E2. Plan on getting lumen and maybe nightingale/ptilo from kernel, but those will only come after the event is over

sullen rover
cyan gorge
#

medicless behavior SkadiDaijoubu

crisp bolt
cyan gorge
#

Anyways, you want high block and 1-2 wave cleaners for left side

deft badger
cyan gorge
#

otherwise, try pushers

deft badger
#

thought he has a healer

crisp bolt
#

weedy?

timid spade
#

Since I ran out of permits, I'll give one last try today with Kal on right side and borrowed weedy on the left with yato dropped in occasionally. If it doesn't work I'll try again tomorrow

deft badger
#

u can try i mean with a tank but i don't know if that will survive

#

w8

sullen rover
timid spade
crisp bolt
#

at least you used your permits Bnuuy

crisp bolt
#

not what I meant

crisp bolt
crisp bolt
#

oh I can't read

#

EN moment

#

I read that as "was"

timid spade
crisp bolt
#

weedy stall is very fun

deft badger
#

btw i think u can use just yato if u have to borrow weedy

#

just fill right side with something to deal with the things they use texas for

timid spade
jovial nest
#

i still have yet to do 7 and 8

#

the event has a lot of weeks

#

i don't know why people speedrun content and waste sanity cause of it

timid spade
#

I'm not rushing lol, it's just that I have time to play now and I wish I could keep doing trial attempts indefinitely so I don't waste my sanity

jovial nest
#

you can do what i sometimes do but it might be weird

#

attempt your hard mode strats on normal plans

#

and once you have a feeling that its solid, do another hard mode plan

#

that way you got 3x more attempts to experiment

timid spade
jovial nest
#

oh you have to consider what the normal mode ain't giving

#

the additional small stat increase

#

the -1 blocks, etc.

#

but you just do it when you think you have to iron out how to do the layout

#

once you iron out how to place and execute with your ops

#

you do hard mode plans again

south bone
#

God i hate the mama john boss stage even tho it's not emergency yet ReedBean

cyan gorge
#

Mama john is funny

#

it's only bad if you don't bring a flag

south bone
#

I don't mind the dp

#

i hate bot lane mob rush tho

latent anvil
#

i didnt like the other one a lot more

#

that flying idiot

south bone
#

I haven't tried other map, but i'll hate both for sure ReedBean

ember furnace
#

who's a good alternative to Goldenglow?

cyan gorge
#

in what context

ember furnace
#

hmm well the vid I'm trying to use for cw-ex-8 clear uses her S2 for an all afk clear

#

but I don't have her unfortunately

cyan gorge
#

Which side of the map and which enemies is she killing?

ember furnace
#

top right, directly to the right of the top enemy entrance node, facing down

cyan gorge
#

So camping rockets

#

any strong caster can work

#

or Gnosis if you have him

ember furnace
#

you think Mostima S2 would be good?

#

or S3 maybe? I have both M3

crisp bolt
cyan gorge
#

Mostima kinda pricey but you can try either skill

ember furnace
#

gotcha
otherwise I guess I could try Ceobe or Dusk, although Dusk is expensive too lol

cyan gorge
#

The important part is the slow and high arts damage to kill the later enemies

ember furnace
#

I see
I suppose worst case, I just repeatedly helidrop Texalter or Yatoalter in a blind panic DIESpin

sharp swallow
#

How do you manage the "Emperor's Blade" Pursuer

cyan gorge
#

Tex s3 works too

#

but s2 is better for the stage

ember furnace
#

ah gotcha

jovial nest
noble pewter
vital arrow
storm current
#

yato is hard counter too

jovial nest
#

heh

#

Ya2's S2 is just insane. Ignores CC, has a built-in unchanging ASPD since her skill's effect is doing that number of slashes

#

and as much as mixed damage isn't too hot, how Ya2's S2 is built makes it such a flexible pick

storm current
#

EB has low defensive stat

#

hes just tanky from the mist

jovial nest
#

tanky because he keeps slowing everyone's ASPD down with that fart

#

and of course the snap

#

makes counterattacks delayed

#

thus, Ya2 and Tex2 just completely counters him

lethal dragon
#

He has 50% physical and arts DMG reduction in fog

jovial nest
#

ah that too

#

either way, Ya2 and Tex2's flexible way of dealing damage makes it easy to keep the fog away from your laners as well as engage what used to be too dangerous

#

i guess that's Surtr too but EB counters her immortality asset

#

use all of the above

storm current
#

imagine how much people cry about EB

#

meanwhile SL sheep have 70% dmg reduction and flying

#

so he cut off half of what can hurt him

lethal dragon
#

It's fine we have much broken units now

#

70% or even 90% is fair at this point

storm current
#

i havent mentioned it yet

#

the boss has 70% by default

#

magenta cloud is another 75% dmg reduction

#

for up to 92.5% dmg reduction

#

flying

#

so you cant surtr

#

cant stall either

#

you are looking at 1M ehp if you let have the cloud

lethal dragon
#

Wait does saria have sp lockout on S2?

crisp bolt
#

yeah believe so

lethal dragon
#

And s1?

storm current
#

Yes

timid schooner
#

YESSSSSSS

#

LETS GOOOOOOO

#

time to touch grass and get ready for cw s 4

tropic valve
#

niiice

jovial nest
#

hahahah

#

I can see why some players had difficulty with EX-7 CM

#

its just a stat check

#

which is so easy for me since it's so straightforward and i have all the pieces needed

#

Weedy S2M3 for bot lane

#

Tex2, Ya2, Surtr, GG, Ceobe on the tank army

#

press up button so no flyers

fringe jackal
foggy grove
#

i just use sl7 puller bot

#

it works the same to trivialize saber dood

fringe jackal
#

I don't even have a puller e1'd ReedBean weedy save me

main halo
#

What am I looking at? RedOmegaLul

noble pewter
#

victory PtiloThink ?

fringe jackal
#

certain death to all enemies

south bone
#

fun

jovial nest
weak gazelle
#

hmm...
this is stupid, race against kristen to claim balls fasterHellaHands

jovial nest
#

ok that was a hilariously bad but a cleared practice run of EX-8

#

cause i misinterpreted where Kristen will come from

#

need to refine

lethal dragon
#

And can't you deploy absinthe facing down

#

Near silence

jovial nest
#

ok that was smooth

#

yeah it didn't take long to solve cause I knew Kristen's gimmick since CW-10

#

i'm curious what CM pulls off

weak gazelle
#

yeah i still get used with cm condition
so still in trial and error phase

#

still think what should my vg do after they first job done

jovial nest
#

ooooh triple cost

#

hmmmm

#

I think I'll remove Mudrock

#

and Surtr will be the rocket solutions as much as they can

#

yeah it's time i change up my strats

#

being reliant on Thorns, Mly, Surtr, Mudrock won't work even when i bring my flags

#

it's too slow and Kristen's Phase 1 needs to die asap

#

Thorns can't build up in time.

#

practicing a guardless, defenderless setup on normal plans

#

Chalter Poze Ling....

#

Suzu is a mainstay

glass monolith
#

Rat with almost 9000 ATK doesn't exist she can't hurt you

lethal dragon
#

Use reed alter

#

Ng is unnecessary

jovial nest
#

yawn normal mode-ing Mama

jovial nest
#

there's a LOT of targets in the middle to feed the healing

glass monolith
#

Dude I can't do emergency without finishing Normal LappDumb

jovial nest
#

either way i hate that hard mode SSS now is all about those concrete blocks

#

i guess the stunning all ranged ops when drawing said condition is too piss easy

lethal dragon
#

Raythean is a real pain in ass
Emergency Boss stage made me use 2 healers

jovial nest
#

especially since active skill equipment upped ASPD too

#

Although i guess Reedter with 5x sniper carried damage and sustain too

#

i went with +1 SP when healed

#

helps keep my Medics' skills up

#

+3 SP per "attack" since they were AoE medics

glass monolith
jovial nest
#

oh yeah Gladiia and Spelter are also laning options...

#

Hmmmm

glass monolith
#

Ballista 1000 atk, rat no module 272 def, medic 2 equipment on field 20%
Damage rat suppose to take 728
DR reduce it to 582.4
Barrier during m3 tanks 600.
RAT WORKS WITH DR SoraWow

celest bluff
#

One man must wonder

What the fuck did he smoke last year

glass monolith
lethal dragon
#

Spawncamping Kirsten is so easy with lappland

jovial nest
#

that works. time to practice it in CM. Ling did fuck all heh

#

I might've killed Kristen too early heh.

lethal dragon
#

You can silence her to keep the balls frozen

glass monolith
#

Stage is dead? Dead. Good

jovial nest
#

CM cleared.

#

all balls gone before she's killed

#

Can't wait for S maps wherein we get red versions of DV power armor...

glass monolith
#

Preplaced 2 ranged DV robots FrankaWheeze

#

Dorothy event enemies so cringe they infest other Rhine Labs events

celest bluff
#

Wait

#

If she is silence then she will get no ball?

jovial nest
#

naaah

#

iirc phase 1 is un-silence-able

#

so the only reason you wanna silence Kristen is so she doesn't detonate all her balls at all if she dies

#

but if there are still multiple balls alive, that Kristen is gonna take a lot of punishment

#

and if there's 2 stars left...then why not just kill 1 more

#

and just scrap the silence

glass monolith
#

35% less damage taken per ball and that shit stacks

foggy grove
glass monolith
#

Each ball is like her having Gladiia buff

foggy grove
#

app crashed on clear screen

glass monolith
#

4 hour robot killing into failed to upload results

unkempt lintel
#

hmm.... so kristen can be silence in p2... hmmmm

foggy grove
#

i'm not doing that RedOmegaLul

unkempt lintel
#

i think ill incorperate using proviso in my attempt in ex 8 cm

lethal dragon
solid dew
polar crane
#

they all have 0 weightsuskaygeagreegebusiness

glass monolith
lethal dragon
#

Me who wants to do 6* only

polar crane
glass monolith
#

We will have more than enough cringe events for it in future HellaKek

celest bluff
#

Mf Phantom is useful but I don't have him built

lethal dragon
#

Executor event is the real cringe

#

Oh yeah CV is coming soon too

celest bluff
glass monolith
celest bluff
#

Amiya caster is the unit I forgot I have because guard Amiya

lethal dragon
#

I didn't forgor because of is2

near folio
#

This run took me 19 mins

#

Guess Kristen is the real raid boss after all

foggy grove
#

puzzle looks fabulous

#

fast dp on balls

near folio
#

How else am I gonna drop those 99 dp defenders

south bone
#

Puzzle best VG fr

#

I used him in that stage as well

glass monolith
#

Built Puzzle for Stainless meme.
Used for balls.

celest bluff
#

Be me:
20 caster chip
0 sniper chip

glass monolith
#

I have it other way around. And like 6 snipers i need to build so ye

near folio
#

I need to build Kjera

celest bluff
#

I have my fia stuck on e0

near folio
#

Wait is Kjera a welfare op?

timid schooner
#

build click

foggy grove
#

she is

near folio
#

Welfareknights is actually quite stacked now that I think about it

jovial nest
#

hilariously, Ines has been quite nice for Kristen fights

#

secondary printer

#

and her S2 helps weaken those BAWLS

near folio
#

For once Cantabile actually losing

#

No arts damage moment

jovial nest
#

that was not the point for me

#

I like Ines having her S2 accelerate

#

she might not have the efficiency of Canta's S2 ammo system

#

but Ines' S2 has its own pros i like

weak gazelle
#

are rocket car immune to cc?

glass monolith
#

Well they immune to Eunectes S2 HellaHands

polar crane
#

no

glass monolith
#

But i rooted them no issu

#

Outside part than killing balls make them ascend to another realm

weak gazelle
#

i just remember i have robin
and will perma bind themMudrockNaruhodo

#

i see thanks

#

the only problem is how i can drop croissant on time
seem a waste using 2 vg

glass monolith
#

(Me who uses 3 VG on EX 8 CM LappWorried )

boreal magnet
#

just bring more vg

glass monolith
#

And then she proceed to miss IC guy for 15 seconds in row

near folio
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Honestly the stage gives enough downtime to build up dp

glass monolith
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Well if you play normally. Instead some scuff fiesta HellaKek

warm hornet
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I read some of Ho'ol kit, and there's levitate effect, is there any viable strategies for it? Like I know the Dorothy / Irene combo but nothing special about it, Like doesn't levitate turn enemies temporarily into ranged or something? Seems like a worse stun or bind for melee units 😦

jovial nest
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How much harder would Kristen's maps be if they weren't assault maps?

jovial nest
warm hornet
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Also, is Kristen even affected by levitate?

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Since I am sure most new bosses are not affected by stuns as far as I know.

polar crane
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only in phase 2

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phase 1 she's immune to everything

warm hornet
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Even bind?

polar crane
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yes everything sipofcola

warm hornet
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Ah I see,

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So far, no levitate meta 😔

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Maybe there would be a unit that take advantage and even boost other units who inflict this effect.